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I’ve Had It With Rev. Wright

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Posted on Apr 28, 2008

By Eugene Robinson

Note: This column has been updated since its original posting in light of Barack Obama’s Tuesday speech.

WASHINGTON—We all have our crosses to bear. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright has become Barack Obama’s.

I’m sorry, but I’ve had it with Wright. I would never try to diminish the service he performed as pastor of his Chicago megachurch, and it’s obvious that he’s a man of great charisma and great faith. But this media tour he’s conducting is doing a disservice that goes beyond any impact it might have on Obama’s presidential campaign.

The problem is that Wright insists on being seen as something he’s not: an archetypal representative of the African-American church. In fact, he represents one twig of one branch of a very large tree.

It’s understandable, given how Wright has been treated, that he would want to attempt to set the record straight. No one would enjoy seeing his 36-year career reduced to a couple of radioactive sound bites. No preacher would want his entire philosophy to be assessed based on a few rhetorical excesses committed in the heat of a passionate sermon. No former Marine would stomach having his love of country questioned by armchair patriots who have done far less to protect the United States from its enemies.

Given Wright’s long silence, I thought he had taken to heart Jesus’ admonition to turn the other cheek. Obviously, I was wrong.

I’m through with Wright not because he responded—in similar circumstances, I certainly couldn’t have kept silent—but because his response was so egocentric. We get it, Rev. Wright: You’re ready for your close-up.

He made some good points Monday when he entered the lion’s den of the National Press Club. I especially liked this one: “My goddaughter’s unit just arrived in Iraq this week while those who call me unpatriotic have used their positions of privilege to avoid military service while sending over 4,000 American boys and girls of every race to die over a lie.”

But his basic point—that any attack on him is an attack on the African-American church and its traditions—is just wrong. In making that argument, he buys into the fraudulent idea of a monolithic, monocultural black America—one with his philosophy and theology at its center.

In his speech Sunday at the NAACP dinner in Detroit, Wright spoke at length about how “different” does not mean “deficient.” He talked of how European and African musical and rhetorical traditions are different, and how that doesn’t mean that one is better than the other. The point was that there is no one way to preach the Gospel. In this, Wright is right.

Where he overreaches is in claiming, as he did at the Press Club, that the criticism he has suffered “is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright; it is an attack on the black church”—and in claiming that this episode “just might mean that the reality of the African-American church will no longer be invisible.”

The reality of the African-American church, of course, is as diverse as the African-American community. I grew up in the Methodist church with pastors—often active on the front lines of the civil rights movement—whose sermons were rarely exciting enough to elicit more than a muttered “Amen.” They were excitement itself, however, compared to the dry lectures delivered by the priest at the Catholic church around the corner. And what I heard every Sunday was nothing at all like the Bible-thumping, hellfire-and-damnation perorations that filled my Baptist friends with the Holy Ghost—and even less like the spellbinding, singsong, jump-and-shout sermonizing that raised the roofs of Pentecostal sanctuaries across town.

Wright claims to represent all these traditions and more, but he does not. He also claims universality for the political aspect of his ministry. It is true that the black church, writ large, has been an instrument of social and political change. But most black churches are far less political than Wright’s—and many concern themselves exclusively with salvation.

I point all this out not to say that one tradition is better than another; as Wright said, different doesn’t mean deficient. But what Wright did was try to frame the issue in such a way that to question him or anything he has ever said was to question the long, storied tradition of African-American religion.

Historically and theologically, he was inflating his importance in a pride-goeth-before-the-fall kind of way. Politically, by surfacing now, he was throwing Barack Obama under the bus.

On Tuesday, Obama returned the favor.

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

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By Fadel Abdallah, May 1 at 7:29 pm #
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WRIGHT is RIGHT!

Rev. Wright is always right, his attackers and enemies’ rants not withstanding. He is following on the footsteps of the great Prophets and reformers of the past who spoke truth to power and challenged the evil status quo of their times.

Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad were all revolutionaries and reformers who spoke against the erring ways of their peoples and the evils of their times, and their first enemies were from among their own families, tribes and people. They were all persecuted, called names and forced out of their own birth places. Yet their names, teachings and reforms have passed into history as the most upright, truth speakers and reformers.

They stand throughout the centuries as great luminaries, intellectual and spiritual giants against the little midgets who hated and opposed them. I’d rather be in the company of those great personalities than in the company of the midgets, dubious, pervert, misguided, intellectually and spiritually challenged and pure evil ones.

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By john doreami, May 1 at 2:45 pm #
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McCain: completely full of shit

Clinton: completely full of shit

Obama: completely full of shit

Wright: not so much full of shit

Keep Wright on the air, fire the others.

Crimes of the State
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

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By Bill Blackolive, May 1 at 7:19 am #
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I AM GLAD

I am glad to see some Wright fans. I watched Wright, found him hip and talented, a great performer.  I don’t know he has fully said the USA planted the AIDS virus.  He said he would not put it past a government who let sypilis be given to black prisoners without their knowing, in order to study sypilis.  Meantime, the US government is guilty of terrorism, certainly.  The US government attacked its own people, see patriotsquestion9/11.  Yes, Israel commits war crimes every day and the US press ignores this, the European presses do not ignore it.  Meantime, this night I watched Jerimiah carrying on, he was so funny, I believed he would be taking pressure off Obama - I had not seen how Wright could be offending even the most scared US whites.  Next day I suffered mild shock seeing what the corporate news was doing.  They panicked nice black guys like Eugene Robinson.  Yes, this stricken land needs a “black” president, but I would prefer Obama were tougher.  He should say: Let the loose bowels typical whites lose their potential greatest president, and I will fight on as champion of their children.  Ah, sadly ever more, this is not reality.  Whew.

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By Ernest Canning, May 1 at 6:00 pm #
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Re: I AM GLAD

I don’t know about the AIDS virus, Bill, but consider the following excerpt from Alfred McCoy, “A Question of Torture:”

“From 1953 to 1963 MKUltra and allied projects dispensed $25 million for human experiments by 185 nongovernmental researchers at eighty institutions, including forty-four universities and twelve hospitals.  At first, Director Dulles complained that ‘we have no human guinea pigs to try these extraordinary techniques.’ To overcome this critical shortage, the agency adopted testing methods marked by cruelty, illegality, and, with surprising frequency, failure.  Seeking unwitting subjects, the CIA injected not only North Korean prisoners, but also spiked drinks at a New York City party house, paid prostitutes to slip LSD to their customers for agency cameras at a San Francisco safe house, pumped hallucinogens into children at summer camp, attemted behavior modification on inmates at California’s Vacaville Prison, and collected powerful toxins among Amazon tribes.  For ‘terminal experiments’--those that were pushed to possible fatal limits--agents trolled Europe for dubious defectors or double agents deemed ‘expendable.’”

MKUltra’s chief scientist, Sydney Gotlieb, “devised his own LSD tests on unsuspecting subjects, once spiking the drinks of colleagues during a meeting at a Maryland lodge, in November 1953.  One of the other CIA scientists, Dr. Frank R. Olson, suffered an immediate mental breakdown and, several days after taking the drug, jumped or was pushed from the tenth floor of New York’s Statler Hotel, where the agency had confined him for observation--a crime that the CIA covered up for the next twenty years by reporting the death to his family as suicide.”

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By Leefeller, May 2 at 4:48 am #
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Re: Re: I AM GLAD

Such an ugly underbelly we have for our government, Wright has every reason to call attention and question our government, with such a colorful history.

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By Leefeller, May 1 at 6:25 am #
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Wright for president

With all the campaigning for Wright coming from the Hillary and McCain crowd, I must say I may vote for him, Oh! I guess he is not running?

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By PatrickHenry, May 1 at 1:24 pm #
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Re: Wright for president

I wonder who David Duke is endorsing, McCain or Clinton?

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By Violavicki, April 30 at 6:23 pm #
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Wright

I totally agree that MSNBC is constantly talking about Obama and how much Wright has damaged him. Well, MSNBC has damaged themselves as much as Fox News. Obama is very popular and will have continuing support because we know he is a smart man who is needed as our president right now. We can’t wait 4 more years with McWar Monger or with Clinton who is becoming a republican herself.

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By Ernest Canning, May 1 at 2:06 pm #
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Re: Wright

MSNBC’s parent company is GE, whose subsidiary, Raytheon, is the second largest weapons manufacturers in the nation.  GE is also steeped in the development of new generations of nuclear weapons.  Once MSNBC dispatched the principle threats to the military-industrial complex by excluding Gravel and Kucinich from critical debates, with the rest of the corporate media falling in line, they were finally in a position to begin attacks on the candidate who would least likely enhance the GE bottom line, both with respect to military spending and media consolidation (Obama) while giving “Let’s have endless war Mad Dog McCain” a free pass.  That is why you hear the name Rev. Wright over, and over, and over again, but scarcely a word about the insane End-Timer, Rev. John Hagee, whose support Mad Dog McCain actively sought, eventually appearing on stage with his arm around that right-wing religious nut-job who thinks our Middle East policies should endeavor to hasten Armageddon.

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By Ernest Canning, May 2 at 7:34 am #
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Re: Re: Wright

Joe, now that the real threats to the GE corporate bottom line (Gravel, Kucinich & Paul) have been eliminated, it is simply a matter of degree.  Corporate media, as a whole, would prefer McCain as McCain would support both further media consolidation--which is worth billions--and advocates perpetual war, which enhances the booty of the military industrial complex.  As to MSNBC, you are mistaken.  Outside of Keith Olberman, who they keep on as a counter-balance to Bill O’Reilley at the Fox propaganda network, I would seriously question whether any of its pundits have said much in favor of Obama.

By the way, if you want a real quick look at the inner workings at Fox and why I call Fox a “propaganda network,” pick up the Robert Greenwald DVD “Outfoxed:  Rupert Murdoch’s War on Journalism.” If you want a quick read and view of something demonstrating how “all” cable networks produce propaganda, purchase Danny Schechter’s paper back “Weapons of Mass Deception.” Inside the cover you will find a DVD by the same title.

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By Joe Sixpack, May 2 at 12:45 am #
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Re: Re: Wright

Thank you for the recomendations. I’ll give them a look.

Why would MSNBC be so interested in seeing Obama win, as he seems to be the biggest dove of the campaign season? My sense is that the media sees the biggest upside in helping Obama reach a certain apex then follow the long popularity slide back to earth. Like the Don Henley song, Dirty Laundry - “Kick ‘em when their up, up, kick ‘em when their down...”

We saw a bit of a preview of all of this during the Wrightscapades.

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By Ernest Canning, May 1 at 3:24 pm #
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Re: Re: Wright

Joe, I would be delighted, but keep in mind that it isn’t just MSNBC.  The entire corporate media operates as a propaganda network.  Their principle accomplishment is their ability to convince more than 250 million Americans that We the People are actually in charge.

An especially quick read that will provide a solid overview of how media operations is John Nichols & Robert McChesney, “Tragedy & Farce:  How the American Media Sells Wars, Spins Elections & Destroys Democracy.” I know that Dr. Helen Caldicott had a book in the 90s that contained an entire chapter on MSNBC’s conflict of interest on this subject.

A little known fact about election eve 2000 is contained in Mark Crispin Miller’s “Fooled Again” where, despite a Voter News Service exit-poll proclaiming Al Gore to be the winner in FL by a whopping 7.3% margin--some 435,000 votes.  it was this margin, coupled with a track history that exit-polls are almost never wrong and are relied upon by our own government to determine whether there has been fraud in a foreign election, that prompted some networks to initially announce a Gore victory, a decision abruptly reversed when John Ellis, Bush’s cousin, later that evening, announced over Fox News that George W. Bush had won.  “NBC News then seconded Fox’s call (at the insistence of parent company General Electric’s CEO Jack Welch, who personally marked into the network newsroom to demand that that NBC ‘confirm’...).  Within minutes the other networks followed suit.”

In Oct. 2007 MSNBC announced it was excluding Sen. Gravel from a debate because he had not raised over $1 million for his campaign.  Gravel observed:  “The fact that NBC is owned by General Electric, one of the world’s leading military contractors, is frightening and certainly smacks of censorship at the most outspoken critic of the influence that the military-industrial complex has over this nation.”

MSNBC’s criterion for exclusion is telling.  For the corporate media the standard for determining whether someone is qualified to run for President is not the strength of their ideas but the amount of money in their campaign coffers.  That standard would make no sense in a true democracy.  But, from the point of view of the corporate elites, the ideal is not one person one vote but one dollar one vote.

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By Joe Sixpack, May 1 at 2:33 pm #
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Re: Re: Wright

You might be a good person to ask, so I will. Is there a ‘must read’ on the topic of corporations making editorial decisions for their media entities? I’d love to know why MSNBC is so in the tank for Obama. I know it goes deeper than the person preferences of the ‘talent’ on air. I’d like to become more informed on the subject.

Can you recommend something?

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By Hammo, April 30 at 3:19 pm #
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New angle on Wright

Sure, Wright has not been politically correct. But let’s look at him from another angle.

Check out ...

“Marine Jeremiah Wright, SEAL Jesse Ventura speak bluntly”

Joint Recon Study Group blog
April 30, 2008
http://jointreconstudygroup.blogspot.com

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By Greg Jones, April 30 at 1:10 pm #
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A Bit Of TRUTH !

Dig this truth...Special thanks to CNN (especially Wolf & Campbell Brown), Fox News, especially Hannity the media king of race baiting, Joe (keep her in so we can win)Scarborough, Pat ‘hate anyone of color’Buchanan, Laura Ingraham, Flush Limbaugh, and the whole GOP media gang (Medved, Prager, Hewitt, etc.) for running the Rev. Wright story totally in the ground. Now that the whole Wright issue has been settled, all superdelegates can now come to Obama’s side without fear that the Wright ordeal will be an issue in the GE. When the GOP brings it up in the general....it will be old news. THANKS MEDIA ! (can you say.....back-fired!)

FIRED UP....READY TO GO !!!!!!!!!!

Greg Jones
http://www.Blacks4Barack.org
(A Multi-Racial, Grassroots Org...Dedicated To Truth)

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By Joe Sixpack, May 1 at 4:31 am #
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Re: A Bit Of TRUTH !

Glad you’re excited. Keep it up. You might be the only one who’s happy that Wright is “over” and will be old news in the general. Do you believe in the tooth fairy too?

Oh gee. I said fairy. Is that close enough to “fairy tale” to be considered a racist remark? If so, I do appologize.

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By marywendyroberts, April 30 at 11:12 am #
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Wright is Wrong, Obama is indeed unfairly

Thank you Mr. Robinson.
I am a white woman of 63 and I think Obama is a wonderful candidate and I was sickened to see the Jeremiah Wright controversy threaten to derail him.
Lets face it, being part of a 8000 member congregation, and not having gone to every Sunday service.(especially while in Washington DC or at the legistature )..he likely had no idea that this old man whom he knew for his good works and whom he tolerated in his occasional odd ideas...would be seized as an excuse to doubt Obama’s whole record, own platform and dedication. After all, he did not realize how he would be judged unlike a white candidate...on his minister. No one has discussed Hillary’s associations with her powerful prayer group...or with the nutty ministers that McCain has as his religious advisors. Obama is the most inspiring candidate,the best candidate, and is speaking truthfully...and not down to the American people. I hope people listen.

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By Spinoza750, April 30 at 11:06 am #
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Fight the media, fight fascism.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19837.htm

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By Purple Girl, April 30 at 6:03 am #
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As a White Life long Liberal I was

I watched all his media ‘blitz’ from beginning to end (when allowed by MSM). these were well constructed Funnel agruements- granted the national Press Club lacked his usual focus). having Written papers in college called “Arguement’ papers I relaized quickly - it must taken in Totality.
Actually I am MORE upset by the time wasted on this NON Issue and the imbalance when compared to many Hate spewing Evangelical comments. Even now avoiding MSNBC due to their use of buchanan for every topic- including Economics (wht BS) -but still watch Keith for You & Rachel (can’t staand Scarbough even on ‘Race to the WH)We get back to discussing REAL Issues- esp the Crimes of this Admin (and their Inc sponsors) & Congress’s complicity?Therre are Far more Dangerous Men amongst US then Rev Wright!And these ACTUALLY weld Power over US

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By John Hanks, April 30 at 5:51 am #
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Wright and Obama have integrity

They are inner-directed men in an other-directed world.
He is like an Old Testament prophet who tells it like he thinks it is.  Obama tries to be honest and fair.  The crooks has succeeded once again in using the media to divide.  But, they still don’t rule ... yet.

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By Sue Cook, April 30 at 5:37 am #
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It's too late to denounce Wright...

These two are playing (wounded ego) tag against each other.

Obama is stuck with Rev. Wright whether he denounces him or not. It’s far too late for that, because now it is being seen as more politcal than sincere on his part. 

He thinks he can simply call a press conference, feign outrageousness, stumble his way through an explaination of his views on the subject and then expect “bitter” people to accept this, and all will be better.

I’m sorry, but he should have done this a long time ago.  It’s just not credible now.

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By Joe Sixpack, April 30 at 8:32 am #
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Re: It's too late to denounce Wright...

So who exactly is Barack Obama?

Is he the guy who couldn’t see what we all could could have from a mile away? That Rev. Wright was too controversial to be associated with until yesterday? Is he a dupe?

Or

Is he the guy who wants to get hired for a job that requires him to quickly decide what kind of person he’s dealing with on the world stage?

Tim Russert: “So, President Obama, how was your face-to-face with President Ahmadinejad?”

Obama: “Well you know Tim I think he came across as a decent guy who’s done good works for his country. I’m ready to give him the benefit of the doubt. Let me be clear though, so get back to me on that in 20 years, OK?”

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By Joe Sixpack, May 1 at 4:35 am #
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Re: Re: It's too late to denounce Wright...

So what you’re trying to say is that it won’t take 20 years for Obama to decide that someone is politically damaging? Can you give me an example?

Rezko? Nope.
Ayers? Nope.
Wright? Nope.

Did I miss anyone? Oh yeah.

The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakan? Not him either.

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By tft, April 30 at 9:20 am #
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Re: Re: It's too late to denounce Wright...

Hey Joe, where you goin’ with logic in your head?

You think, now that Obama has denounced not just the statements by Wright, but the man himself, that Obama “trusts” wingnuts?  When did Obama ever say he trusted Wright with nukes?  Your logic is tortured, to say the least, and just stupid, to say the truth.

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By Conservative Yankee, April 30 at 4:38 am #
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By Joe Sixpack, April 30 at 4:14 am #
“… believe there has been no McDonald Douglas Aircraft company since 1997. That’s when Boeing bought it, right?”

Absolutely correct… But the Clinton’s have been accepting campaign contributions since 1978 at least…

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By Joe Sixpack, May 1 at 4:37 am #
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Re:

Now these contributions you speak of. Are they from the corporation itself, or all of it’s officers and lobbists as individuals?

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By Joe Sixpack, May 2 at 6:47 am #
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Re: Re:

It matters in the world of deception in campaign fundraising, that’s for sure. See if you want to appear to be a post-modern politician and you want to run on the theme of changing Washington and thus not be beholden to any ‘special interests’ it just wouldn’t do to becaught taking money from said ‘special interests’, right? So what you need to do in that case is to encourage the individuals, their wives, kids, girlfriends, nannys, paper boys and personal assistants to make the maximum individual donation to the campaign. Best of both worlds. You get the money you so desperately need and you can then make the (false) claim that you don’t accept money from lobbyists and special interest groups. See how easy it is?

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By Conservative Yankee, May 1 at 7:09 am #
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This matters

Never checked that out… does it matter?

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By Sassy, April 29 at 8:25 pm #
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I love your columns, Eugene.  You seem to have a knack for zeroing in what’s troubling me.  As for Reverend Wright, I think he needs a spiritual advisor. He’s not the only one, of course.  There are a lot of other preachers who urgently need spiritual advisors these days, including McCain’s good buddy Hagee.

All things considered, I still believe Obama is the best candidate. I can hardly look at McCain these days without hearing that Beach Boy tune. His crazed performance of “Ah, ba ba ba ba, bomb bomb Iran, oh, ba ba ba ba, bomb, bomb Iran” was downright creepy and it’s not the kind of thing one easily forgets.  The U.S. is dealing with a lot of tough issues these days and the last thing we need is a President who thinks this kind of thing is cute.

As for Hillary, I believe she could benefit from a spiritual advisor as well.  One can only assume if someone runs a dirty manipulative campaign, things will not improve once they get to the White House.  We’ve had almost eight years of this kind of thing under Bush and we simply don’t four more years of the same.

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By Joe Sixpack, May 1 at 4:42 am #
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Re:

Why is it that we democrats seem to feel that electing a Sunday School teacher is the right direction to go in. If we elect the nicest person we can find then what can that person hope to accomplish against the bullies of the world on the playground?

I’m tired of nominating wimps that can’t get elected.

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By G.Anderson, April 29 at 8:00 pm #
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Not Particularly

I was actually hoping that the Rev. Wright would get his own half hour show on one of the neworks, so that his views can be highlighted to the fullest extent that they deserve.

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By Max Shields, April 29 at 7:34 pm #
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Obama's Mouthpiece

Ok, you will not accord. Fine. Then let me accord - Eugene Robinson has been a faithful Obama supporter in print and tv media. He is trotted out on NBC and affiliates to make the Obama case. We can quibble about the term mouthpiece.

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By Ernest Canning, April 30 at 6:46 am #
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Re: Obama's Mouthpiece

See my response to this and your other posts at Tom Hayden strikes back.

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By Ernest Canning, April 29 at 7:10 pm #
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Excellent post, Bob.  Isn’t amazing how Jeremiah Wright, a man who served honorably for two years in the Marines and four years in the Navy, can be branded as an America hater while a man like Dick Cheney, who received used one deferment after another to evade service, can go onto the corporate media Sunday talk show circuit, and with a smug look on his face, lie after lie on his lips and the American flag on his lapel takes this nation into a war of aggression, a war that has already killed more than 4,000 U.S. soldiers and perhaps some 1.1 million Iraqi civilians, and no one, and I mean no one, from the corporate media has dared to call his patriotism into question, let alone call for his impeachment and prosecution for war crimes.

What is wrong with this picture?

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By cyrena, April 30 at 1:18 pm #
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Re: Speaking of the Devil

On Cheney..remember this from last year..when he said that his office was NOT a part of the executive office?

He and his guys and girls are at it again.

Cheney Lawyer Claims Congress Has No Authority Over Vice President
By Elana Schor
The Guardian UK

Tuesday 29 April 2008

The lawyer for US vice-president Dick Cheney claimed today that the Congress lacks any authority to examine his behaviour on the job.

The exception claimed by Cheney’s counsel came in response to requests from congressional Democrats that David Addington, the vice-president’s chief of staff, testify about his involvement in the approval of interrogation tactics used at Guantanamo Bay.

Ruling out voluntary cooperation by Addington, Cheney lawyer Kathryn Wheelbarger said Cheney’s conduct is “not within the [congressional] committee’s power of inquiry”.

“Congress lacks the constitutional power to regulate by law what a vice-president communicates in the performance of the vice president’s official duties, or what a vice president recommends that a president communicate,” Wheelbarger wrote to senior aides on Capitol Hill.

The exception claimed by Cheney’s office recalls his attempt last year to evade rules for classified documents by deeming the vice-president’s office a hybrid branch of government - both executive and legislative.

The rest at the link:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042908B.shtml

This of course has been on-going for what seems like forever now, and the fascist thugs have indeed brought us to complete ruin, while we sit around blasting the few possible ways of saving our collective asses…

I think I’ll take a walk while I still can…

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By Ernest Canning, April 30 at 4:23 pm #
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Re: Re: Speaking of the Devil

Cheney also claims he’s not a member of the executive branch, so I suppose he doesn’t have to answer to Bush either.  But then, the reality is that Cheney and Addington have always called the shots.  Poor dumb George is just a puppet.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 30 at 3:03 am #
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Ernest, these are some of the very chickens coming home to roost that Wright talks about. 

I think someone should come out with a roosting chicken lapel pin.

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By Expat, April 30 at 7:52 am #
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I'd wear.........

^ one, somewhere.  Hey, I feel a movement coming, but not in the toilet.  Roosting chickens, hell yeah!

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By Leefeller, April 30 at 5:20 am #
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Roosting chicken pin

Love it!  Next it will be tattoos.

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By jackpine savage, April 30 at 3:32 am #
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Re: Re:

Though my daily clothing has no lapels, i’d wear a roosting chicken pin somewhere.

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By Spinoza750, April 29 at 7:07 pm #
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Revolution Now

This Mr. Robinson sounds like an Uncle Tom. Enough with these milk toast wishy washy right wingers.

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By Leefeller, April 29 at 6:28 pm #
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Hillary you Bitch you

Yes, I can see Hillary loosing the lug-nuts on the Obama Bus, before it slows down.  A clear picture in me mind.

Master chief that she is, a dash of Bigotry, slice of racism, a pinch of divisiveness, and whole lot of pablum, master meal of politics. Yes, so nice to fool the simple folks. 

This campaign has become the Elm Street rehash and Freddy is you know who!

Will it never end?

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By Joe Sixpack, April 30 at 3:54 am #
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Re: Hillary you Bitch you

Leefelther,

Hey man don’t sugar-coat it. By all means tell us how you really feel. Keeping your true feelings locked up inside is bad for you. You should learn to let those bad feelings out into the open before they create enough pressure to pop one of the blood vessels in your skull.

On the other hand Abraham Lincoln cautioned us that it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

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By Joe Sixpack, April 30 at 8:24 am #
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Re: Re: Hillary you Bitch you

Oh yeah I agree for sure. Any woman who can stand by her man and work out serious marital problems should be punished for it. I’m sure if she had keyed his El Camino in the driveway or spraypainted “I hope the pussy was worth it” on his boat you’d be a lot happier about her.

You must be looking hard for things that can distract you from the awful truth today. The super delegates aren’t likely to turn their backs on the entire future of the African American electorate, but instead will almost certainly nominate a candidate who is DOA in the general election.

Yeah, I think I understand why you’d rather spend the time thinking about the women Bubbas been with than the coming four years of President McCain.

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By Leefeller, April 30 at 5:17 am #
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You may be wright

Actually sixpack Maine, as I polish my Nazi Jack Boots, I occasionally vent just for the hell of it. 

It is very simple, I do not like Hillary Clinton, because of her handling President husbands Bill’s indiscretions, especially how she treated the other women, it is almost as if Hillary were the Talaban stoning the whores on the streets. 

So I prefer Obama!

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By cyrena, April 29 at 5:56 pm #
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Had it with the Wright story, (I know a few of you just LOVE it...Joe6pack...your mama’s calling you)..

Well, try THIS for a change of pace..maybe get an idea of what the Rev is speaking to…

Half of Vets Suffering Brain and Mind Injuries Go Untreated, but Pentagon Pretends Nothing’s Going On
By Penny Coleman
AlterNet
Tuesday 29 April 2008

An activist travels to the DoD’s annual suicide prevention conference, only to find the military brass living in a parallel universe.

The silverbacks are grooming and posturing at the microphones.

Camo and khaki, wall to wall. Bob Ireland, an Air Force psychiatrist and consultant to the Air Force Surgeon General, welcomes the audience to the Department of Defense’s sixth annual Suicide Prevention Conference and makes jokes about how suicide prevention has been the DoD’s bastard child, homeless and parentless.

In January 2008, the child nobody wanted finally managed to find a home. The Defense Center of Excellence for Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury assumed responsibility for an issue and an injury that the military has hidden and denied for generations.

It’s been left up to Lt. Col. Steven Pflanz, the senior psychiatry policy analyst for the Air Force surgeon general, to report on the mental healthcare practices that have been developed for those on active duty. Kerry Knox, director of the VA’s Center for Excellence on Suicide Prevention, was scheduled to share with him these introductory remarks, but is not in attendance. Apologies are made, but no one mentions how obviously difficult it would be for her to get into the self-congratulatory HOOAH! spirit of this conference when her boss just got busted big time for hiding VA suicide statistics, not just to the media but to Congress as well.

“Shh!” Ira Katz, the VA’s mental health director, coyly began an email to the agency’s chief communications director - and inconveniently made public just this week. “Our suicide prevention coordinators are identifying about 1,000 suicide attempts per month among the veterans we see in our medical facilities. Is this something we should (carefully) address ourselves in some sort of release before someone stumbles on it?”

In another email, he acknowledged that an average of 18 war veterans manage to kill themselves each day - five of whom were under VA care at the time.

OK, Katz is toast. Democrats are already calling for him to resign, which seems rather mild considering how many lives were damaged by his attempts at damage control. But do the math: That’s 12,000 veterans a year - VA patients - trying to kill themselves. On top of that, of the 6,570 who on average succeed each year, 1,825 of them are also patients at the VA. How is possible not to mention that kind of news at a conference on military suicides?

This must have been a challenging week for the conference organizers. How to deal with the Katz e-mails and the new RAND Corporation report, which is devastating in its description of DoD and VA failures. And the RAND report can’t be blown off as the ravings of a bunch of leftists with an anti war agenda; RAND conducts research and analysis for the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, the Unified Commands, the defense agencies, the Department of the Navy, and the U.S. intelligence community.

The report revealed that nearly 20 percent of military service members who have returned from Iraq and Afghanistan - that’s 300,000 men and women - have symptoms of post-traumatic stress or major depression. Of those, only slightly more than half have sought VA treatment. Soldiers say that hesitation to seek help arises from fear that it will harm their careers.

more at the link
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042908S.shtml

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By Joe Sixpack, April 30 at 3:36 am #
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“Had it with the Wright story...”

I’m sure you have. The MSM has as well from the looks of things this morning. It must be nice to be able to give an ‘angry’ press conference and have an issue immediately go away forever.

Obama disowns Paster. From this moment forward no one can discuss this mess ever again. Right.

I bet Howard Dean was pretty convinced the whole silly ‘scream’ thing would blow over.

You think Al Gore seriously thought that taking credit for helping the government create a secure communication system that could survive a nuclear war would come back to haunt him? “Al Gore created the internet!!!” (Insert laughter here)

I’m sure that John Kerry was sure no one would remember his silly quote about “American soilders are war criminals”.

Could Dukakis have imagined at the time that Willy Horton would be his downfall?

“READ MY LIPS!!!” Naw. That never resurfaced after Bush gave a speech to explain it.

If Hillary Clinton had given the same statement yesterday and said:

“That’s a show of disrespect to me. It is also, I think, an insult to what we’ve been trying to do in this campaign.’’

This morning the MSM would be hammering her for making it about her and her campaign. How come Rev. Wright is disrespecting Obama all of a sudden? Isn’t it a distraction and disrespectful the issues that are much more important to the voters in Indiana and North Carolina? Why is it an insult, exactly? Because Wright overshadowed Obama for 4 days? Because it was killing Obama politically?

What happens today when someone from the media catches up with Wright and Wright keeps the story going one more news cycle by saying “Obama is a politician who has to distance himself from me, but I know what he really believes in his heart.”

Isn’t that what Wright has been saying all along?

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By Dr. Wright and Dr. King, April 29 at 5:50 pm #
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Rev. Wright

If the good Reverend could get past his religion to his politics, we might have a leader. His words of history and culture are true. Dr. King was reviled by white America by the time of his murder but he is conspicuously the greatest leader of living Americans in hindsight. While I enthusiatically endorse Barack Obama, the good Reverend is more likely to take us to true peace and reconciliation. And to the racists in Pennsylvania, some of you my close friends, confrontation against your racism might get us farther than foregiveness.

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By Ernest Canning, April 29 at 5:35 pm #
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Thanks for your kind words, Cyrena.

As to Eugene Robinson, his words echo those who condemned Dr. King for speaking out against Vietnam.  Consider the following passages from Dr. King’s “Beyond Vietnam.”

“‘Why are you speaking about the war, Dr. King?  Why are you joining the voices of dissent?’ “Peace and civil rights don’t mix,’ they say.  ‘Aren’t you hurting the cause of your people?’ they ask.  And when I hear them, though I often understand the source of their concern, I am greatly saddened, for such questions mean that the inquirers have not really known me, my commitment or my calling.  Indeed, their questions suggest that they do not know the world in which we live.”

Dr. King went on to note, “I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government.”

Dr. King added, “The war in Vietnam is but a symptom of a far deeper malady within the American spirit....I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values.  We must rapidly begin...the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society.  When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”

From Vietnam to Iraq, the position of our own government as “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today” and the “triplets of racism, extreme materialism and militarism” has remained a constant since Dr. King spoke so eloquently in 1967.  It was this reality which was the subject of Rev. Wright’s address bearing the unfortunate words “God Damn America” which has been so profoundly twisted, so removed from context that they bear no relationship whatsoever to the profound message Wright was seeking to convey. It is the ability of the corporate media to so profoundly twist the message, coupled the vice-into virtue “greed is good” philosophy which suggest that our nation is very near the spiritual death Dr. King warned us of.

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By Max Shields, April 29 at 6:06 pm #
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Amazing...MLK a great American. While I think Wright echos what we know about the American legacy, I really don’t see how this matches up with your guy Obama.

I mean it’s like night and day.

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