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The Man Who Would Be Bush

Posted on Apr 15, 2008
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By Robert Scheer

Are Americans unusually stupid or is it something our president put in the water? As millions surrender their homes and sacrifice other standards of our nation’s economic and political reputation to the caprice of the Bush-Cheney imperium, a majority of voters tell pollsters that they might vote for a candidate who promises more of the same.

Assuming that likely voters are not now thinking of yet another Republican president simply because John McCain is the only white guy left standing—an excuse as pathetic in its logic as the decision four years ago to return two Texas oil hustlers to the White House because they were not Massachusetts liberals—must mean that tens of millions of Americans have taken leave of their senses.

If not the white-guy syndrome, why would even a shocking minority of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters say they prefer McCain to the other Democrat? How otherwise to explain the nation’s widespread bipartisan rejection of the Bush presidency and yet a willingness to let McCain continue in that vein?

To be sure, as a senator, McCain has exhibited flashes of independence on behalf of taxpayers, as in his support of campaign-finance reform in which he partnered with Democrat Russ Feingold. McCain’s investigations of the military-industrial complex’s shameless exploitation of terrorism fears set a high standard, as in exposing the air-tanker scandal that dispatched a Boeing exec and a former Pentagon employee to prison. But his political ambition is showing. Although he previously harshly criticized the enormous waste in the Iraq occupation, today, as a presidential candidate, he opens the door to a hundred years of taxpayer dollars tossed down the drain in Iraq. The man who was tortured now hugs a leader who authorized the same.

By so unabashedly embracing the most glaringly failed U.S. president ever, McCain has surrendered the right to be considered an independent candidate, judged on his own merits and personal history. A vote for McCain is a vote for that rancid recipe mixing religious bigotry, imperial arrogance and corporate greed that he had stood against in the run-up to the 2000 presidential election when he challenged George W. Bush, but to which he now has capitulated.

Too harsh? Then consider just how tight the space is between the rocks of our failed Mideast policy and the hard place of our impending financial disaster. The sudden out-of-control spike in the cost of oil—the key short-term market variable, the specter that stokes inflation fear and limits moves to avoid recession—is not a natural disaster or in any realistic way the result of inefficiency in the use of energy. What more than doubled the price of petroleum in the short run was not that too many of us bought Hummers, but rather that the political stability of the region that contains the bulk of that oil was deliberately and recklessly roiled.

In the name of fighting the 9/11 terrorists, the Bush administration overthrew the one Arab government most adamantly opposed to the Saudi financiers of that son of their system, Osama bin Laden. Instead of confronting the royal leaders of a kingdom that supplied 15 of the 19 hijackers, we invaded a nation that supplied not a single one. While Bush overthrew Saddam Hussein, who had no ties to the hijackers, he embraced the leaders of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, the only three nations in the world that had diplomatically recognized and supported the Taliban sponsors of al-Qaida.

Consider that historical marker at a time when the UAE and Saudi Arabia bankers are buying major positions in distressed U.S. financial and other key corporate institutions. I know, it all sounds too conspiratorial, like imagining that we might wake up from this national nightmare and discover that the CEO of Halliburton, who replaced Dick Cheney when the latter selected himself to be Bush’s vice president, now has his headquarters in Dubai, tucked safely into the obscenely oil-revenue-rich UAE that our troops were sent to Iraq to protect.

There is no national outrage, or even seriously sustained media interest, over the fact that Cheney’s old company profited enormously from ripping off U.S. tax dollars going into the Iraq occupation. Nor is there even much curiosity about the shenanigans of Halliburton, which is doing business with Arab oil sheiks at a time when the U.S. banks these Middle Eastern oil interests bought into are moving to foreclose on American homeowners.

It’s just the sort of egregious betrayal of the trust of the taxpayers that Sen. McCain would have gone after, before he sought to don the soiled robes of the Bush presidency.


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By Michelle, May 18, 2008 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
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When you put Obama next to McCain, it’s like the contrast between Kennedy & Nixon in the all famous debate ... Nixon just couldn’t hold a candle to John Kennedy. 

Regardless of color, Obama is young and charismatic enough ... he is intelligent. McCain is an old man who admits he “knows nothing” about economics.

If the American people are too stupid to see the vivid contrast between the two, and blindly allow color to dictate their vote, then the American public will get what it deserves if McCain / McSame wins the next election.

It took three Republican administrations to make the last Great Depression and it looks like three might just be the charm again. 

It’s a shame there are so many uneducated among us who cannot, or will not, remember or they just never learned, they will continute to vote for the organized criminal enterprise that has been running this nation into the ground for the last eight years.

If it happens I believe there will be more than Great Depression this time.  There will be a revolution.

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By cann4ing, April 22, 2008 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

Let me add Marshall, that while I think that true democracy can be accomplished through a form of democratic socialism, Keynesianism and the New Deal were, unfortunately, “not” socialistic.  Roosevelt and the Democrats in the 30s came up with the New Deal not to destroy capitalism but to prevent the avaricious beast from devouring itself.  They came up with a “mixed economy” rather than Socialism, a major mistake since it left the forces devoted to political and economic inequality in a position to rise again. 

Laissez faire is a myth.  The fact is that most fortunes have been made in this country by tapping into the public till.  The railroad barons amassed fortunes in large measure because of outright grants of vast swaths of land from the government.  When the schemes of the billionaire swindlers on Wall Street go bust, as, for example, would occur by design by with sub-prime mortgages, they can always count on the paid-for politicians to bail them out.  Crony capitalism, who consistently tap the public till through no bid contracts with no measure of accountability, can always count on corporate friendly politicians to bail them out.  They believe in Socialism for the rich and leave the “free market” to the suckers.  A major sector, the military-industrial complex, could not exist unless it had its hand in the public trough.

Unregulated markets brought us the first Great Depression, and the era of deregulation, ushered in by Reagan, brought us the Enron-led scamming of the California energy market in 2001.  It has unleashed the sub-prime mortgage crisis, created a vast increase in wealth disparity, which in turn, through an exponential expansion of lobbyists and corruption of the political process.

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By cann4ing, April 22, 2008 at 8:06 am Link to this comment

We agree to disagree.

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By omop, April 22, 2008 at 5:05 am Link to this comment

Although Mr. Scheer’s report title is much catchier than my suggested comment title this coming election for the 300 million who call the USA “my home sweet home” the outcome will be signficaant in whether America graduates to what its original potential to be or degenerates into the course set by a cabal of neocons many of whom have/had dual loyalties.

Talking/writing about “the white guy”; “the black guy and his pastor” the woman who ‘stood by her man” bellittles and makes fools out of all of us.

Voters will be making decisions about the “FACE” of the USA for the next 4 years. That face will represent the best and the worst of what makes up 300 million people for all to see and judge.

The face one votes for in November will represent what each one of us thinks being an American stands for. One that is respectful and respected by a majority of the earth population not just one or two allies.

Its time to grow up America.

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By Marshall, April 21, 2008 at 10:21 pm Link to this comment

By Ernest Canning, April 21 at 5:17 pm #
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Well Ernest - Obviously no point in my addressing your individual points since you’ve made it clear that you don’t support the concept of free markets to begin with.  I obviously disagree with you, and I don’t think it takes a very long look at the world’s successful economies to prove you wrong.  It amazes me that Socialists (which I’m assuming you would classify yourself - correct me if I’m wrong) still cling to an economic system that has so utterly disproven its worth.  Of course, the U.S. (as the world’s largest economy) is in fact a Socialist Democracy, in that we have some social programs and govt. regulation… to excess, many would say.  But you sound like more of a purist to me; someone who would prefer eliminating the free market altogether in favor of a socialist state.  Is this the case?

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By bobadi, April 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment
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All of Israelis fault?
I don’t think so, many great Jews work very hard to end the thuggish Zionists occupation of Palestinian territories.
Your hatred of Carter makes me wonder how Zionists will react to the latest I heard, that Carter just brokered a peace deal in which Hamas will accept Israel as its neighbor!
That is the only excuse you had left for your outrages, but I doubt that you will leave from other people’s lands and back behind your own borders.
I believe that your bulldozing Palestinian homes, and making their lives unlivable, so to enlarge your settlements; will continue unabated.
As the point of this article again: Our people in the US are stupidly taken by right wing fear rhetoric, and would rather flame a world war then realize how we are so badly used for sick purpose.

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By cann4ing, April 21, 2008 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment

Take your ideological blinders off Marshall.  The seeds for the current economic malaise were being sown by the sub-prime loans that were fueling the economy in 2003.  Further, 2003 just happened to be the year that we invaded Iraq with promises from your friends in the Bush administration that we would be greeted with baskets of flowers and that the oil revenues would pay for the invasion and occupation.  Of course, if you are an oil industry executive or have significant stock in Halliburton or Blackwater, I could certainly see why you would believe things were going smoothly.

The fact is that the financial status of working class Americans has steadily deteriorated since Reagan first assumed office in 1980, advancing the “greed-is-good” philosophy, a factor that was greatly accelerated when the Clintons joined with Reagan and Geo. H. W. Bush to ram NAFTA & the WTO through on the fast track.  These enabled the ruling elites to outsource our manufacturing base in an endless search for the $2/day laborer while what was left of American labor has been increasingly Wal Martized.

The fact is that we are learning for the second time a painful lesson that should have stuck back in 1932.  Free markets don’t work.  They create grotesque economic equality leading to corruption and political inequality, leading to further economic inequality.  Freed of New Deal (Keynesian) constraints, the avaricious beast we call capitalism devours itself, destroying the economy and the environment.

George W. Bush was not alone in creating this mess.  The deregulating mantra of the radical disciples of Milton Friedman free markets who exerted undue influence in every administration since 1980 had a good deal to do with it.  However, by adopting massive tax cuts for the wealthy while pursuing a $3 trillion imperial conquest of Iraq, George W. Bush has done more than any of his predecessors to hasten our demise.

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By WriterOnTheStorm, April 21, 2008 at 2:39 pm Link to this comment

I was just about to ask Cyrena where you’d gone. I imagined that TD had lost you to some super-blog, where the shrill voices of both broken idealism and vain cynicism alike are carefully screened out by an all-knowing moderator.

But I guess we all have to settle for Truthdig.

HokaHey. Yourownself.

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By Marshall, April 21, 2008 at 11:42 am Link to this comment

By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 20 at 4:09 am #

“Our economy is in a shambles.  As for an early pull-out from Iraq, this is typical perverted rationalization.”

I knew you’d say that.  Now tell me what the current credit crunch has to do with Bush?

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By Marshall, April 21, 2008 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

By Ernest Canning, April 20 at 6:56 am #
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“Economic revival of 2001?  What a load!”

Mistype.  2003 is the correct year.  Obviously 9/11 intervened in an economy that was beginning to rebound in late 2001.

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By cyrena, April 21, 2008 at 8:32 am Link to this comment


I haven’t seen Forest Gump lately, but I’m sure glad to hear from you! As always, you bring us into the much needed reality checks.

And as always, I’m grateful.

Yep…some of us WILL survive. We’ve been ‘preparing’ for this time. And, thanks to you, I’ve had the extra lessons in a head start.

Yes, Natural Law has already determined the ‘verdit’.


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By cann4ing, April 21, 2008 at 7:50 am Link to this comment


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By GB, April 20, 2008 at 8:21 pm Link to this comment
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The Bush Administration (mafia) allowed 911 to happen so they could rip up our constitution, steal our treasury and attempt to set their neoCon (facist) ideology in place for a century. As stated in the PNAC documents signed by these criminals.
The media supported them and continue to do so. They are propping up McSame in the same way they bumped Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul from our right to hear them in the debates because their interest in control and weapons sales are the same as Bush and Cheney’s oil grab. The American public are aware of this but the media is banking on repeat and repeat until it becomes beleivable. Don’t fall for it.

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By bg1, April 20, 2008 at 7:51 pm Link to this comment
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“simply because John McCain is the only white guy left standing—an excuse as pathetic in its logic”

Well, duh. What did you guys think was going to happen if Obama was nominated?  Perhaps Bob Scheer’s been living in Santa Monica too long.  Santa Monica is a nice place, I go there often, but I think he hasn’t been out among the rednecks, AKA “normal Americans”, enough lately.  Wall Street and the big monied interests, by way of their ownership of the MSM have set up Obama as the easy-to-beat Dem in the general election, and the hippies, students and latte liberals of the Santa Monicas around the US, along with the blacks, have taken the bait with gusto.  So now we’re screwed again.  My GOP friends in the oil business are rejoicing because Obama “will be slaughtered in November.”

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By TAO Walker, April 20, 2008 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment

Is Robert Scheer here failing to make what might be the acutely critical distinction between mere stupidity and at least partly self-inflicted stupefaction?  Theamericanpeople, as such, seem no more “stupid,” really, than domesticated people of any other brand.  They do, however, appear stupified to a degree perhaps not seen since lead and high-living at the expense of the rest of “their” world/empire set the Romans up for that famous fall.

This old Indian has watched the long-term industrialized “dumbing-down,” of the tame two-leggeds running rampant here on Turtle Island, achieve its intended results (usually called something like “unforeseen side-effects” when they can’t simply be ignored altogether) since long before these latter “days of whine-and-dosage,” to borrow a favorite phrase from a Nam Vet nephew.  There seems no sensible view at this point other than that this is going to get one helluva lot worse before it can even begin to get a little bit better.

The thing is, Robert Scheer and others here with a “vested” interest in the question asked but (carefully?) not really answered, there IS a cure for what ails you americans and all your chattelized brothers and sisters.  Call it the Tiyospaye Way….or natural organic Community, though that last word has become severely debased lately as semantic currency, being applied promiscuously to any and every random collection of artifactual “individuals” that comes down the pike.

Put another way, it is exactly us surviving Primitive Savages who ARE the Medicine the civilized peoples need, here in the terminal phase of their ten-millennia-long capitivity.  As hard to swallow for most of you as is even such an outlandish idea, wait’ll you have to choke-down the actual fact.

Another thing is, The HOOP of Life being just that, how could anybody with any sense ever’ve expected things to come to any other pass but this one?  The Natural Law, because it is self-enforcing, inevitably produces perfect justice.  No small part of that in the case of theamericanpeople must be the considerable shock of being waked-up rudely from the dreamily deadening “comfort” of this long-running national stupor they’ve accepted as a counterfeit for their actual “history.”

So if, ala Forest Gump, “Stupid is as stupid does,” we may be about to have answered once and for all the question Robert Scheer poses.  What’ll the “verdict” be, here in the “court” of Life Herownself?


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By Stan, April 20, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
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Get the straightjacket.Looooooney!

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By cann4ing, April 20, 2008 at 7:56 am Link to this comment

Economic revival of 2001?  What a load!

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By cann4ing, April 20, 2008 at 7:54 am Link to this comment

Iraq is not a fetus.  After more than five years, 1.1 million Iraqi deaths, the deaths of more than 4,000 American soldiers (all from the working class), an unknown number of mercenary deaths and the squandering of $3 trillion from the U.S. treasury, “pulling out” immediately (aka bringing this imperial folly to an abrupt end) is not “premature.”  Any who suggests otherwise is neither “smart nor informed.”

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 20, 2008 at 5:09 am Link to this comment

“Neither do most people cast their vote on a single issue, and there were numerous other reasons to support Bush over the competition that have also turned out to be good ones; the ensuing strong economy to name one.”

You can’t be serious!?

Our economy is in a shambles.  As for an early pull-out from Iraq, this is typical perverted rationalization. 

As for Brameld, I am certain I got the true meaning of his response to my question.

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By Marshall, April 20, 2008 at 4:04 am Link to this comment

I see, so there wasn’t an economic revival in 2001?  How quickly some forget.  But then I suppose Bush was responsible for the recent credit crunch that the economy has had to weather (and that has apparently erased some people’s memories)  - a blow that was cushioned, btw, by an underlying economy which is quite strong.

Foreign onwership of U.S. debt is nothing new, but apparently it is to some. Seems like Japan was set to own us back in the 80’s, now it’s China.  Geez - when’s someone finally gonna close the deal?

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By Marshall, April 20, 2008 at 3:54 am Link to this comment

I’m guessing you uttered the same promise before Bush was elected to his second term.

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By margeanncullen, April 19, 2008 at 11:14 pm Link to this comment
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Neither do most people cast their vote on a single issue, and there were numerous other reasons to support Bush over the competition that have also turned out to be good ones; the ensuing strong economy to name one.

What ensuing strong economy? We are tanked. What world do you live in? We are going to wake up and be owned by China and the mid east is going to laugh all the way to the bank.

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By Kiwi, April 19, 2008 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment

I have to agree with you
Look at the most read articles on todays’ Fox News website. Nothing there about the Economy, the War, Corruption
But hey Tom crusie thinks he is a superior human
Whats more important than that!!
Stupidity and white-man syndrome. Sadly ! think McCain will win. God save the world!
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Removing warts in a flash
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Al Pacino stars in new thriller
Movies hitting theaters this weekend
Courtney Kealy back from Iraq!
Falling prices are lifting home sales
Obama’s superdelegate lead over Clinton
Woman describes life in polygamist cult

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By GrammaConcept, April 19, 2008 at 8:05 pm Link to this comment

‘stumble’ over one of your posts, I find myself so appreciative of your knowledge, maturity, and thoughtfully constructed insights into broader meanings, that I just had to stop here and say Thank You.
Strive On…

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By kath cantarella, April 19, 2008 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment
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If i couldn’t laugh, I’d cry.

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By cann4ing, April 19, 2008 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

There is no relationship between real “democracy” and the regime that stole two presidential elections.  Indeed, there will never be anything resembling real political democracy unless and until there is some level of economic democracy.  The principle advanced by our corporate elite is not one person, one vote but one dollar one vote.  The corporate media does not, and I would venture to suggest, has never acted as a Fourth Estate—that is as an institution ready to speak truth to power.  To the contrary, it has found it far more profitable to throw in with power.

Elections within the U.S. are a complete scam.  They are based on deceitful PR images and evade all mention of substance.  The corporate media is not only concerned with whom we elect, but how we elect.  Where European democracies conduct elections over a span of weeks, the U.S. has devolved into a near continuous series of electoral cycles.  No sooner were the votes being counted in the 2006 mid-term than candidates began declaring for the 2008 election precisely because more time is needed to troll for dollars (both corporate and individual) to purchase the deceptive 30 second spot ads; only those candidates with sufficient funds will receive any coverage from the corporate media.  Indeed, our so-called “leaders” are now forced to divide their time between governing and fund raising.

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By Shenonymous, April 19, 2008 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

What?  I thought it was Jesus F. Christ!  Sez the godless liberal.

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By SteveSOD, April 19, 2008 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment

Jesus H. Christ, I hope that was sarcasm.

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By SteveSOD, April 19, 2008 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

I think it’s the world’s first picture of two simultaneously smiling and waving jackasses.

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By M. Roth, April 19, 2008 at 10:34 am Link to this comment
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Fear not.  I suspect McCain leads in the polls only because of the militant Obama and Clinton supporters, believing so strongly in their candidate, cannot fathom supporting the other. Babies, they threaten to punish us all by voting for McCain if their nominee looses.  McCain is showing extra points because of this dynamic. 

Emotions from the democratic battle will indeed cool.  And then, when the smoke clears, and McCain’s positions are laid alongside those of the democratic nominee, the disappointed democrats will return to their senses. 

Or not.  In which case I’m moving to Costa Rica.

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By Marshall, April 18, 2008 at 9:53 pm Link to this comment

Please note: my post above was a reply to:

By AnnMullins, April 18 at 8:25 pm #
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Re: Re: Robert Scheer is Disingenuous

...not to G. Anderson’s post.

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By Marshall, April 18, 2008 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment

Wow.  You sound like Big Brother!

Basically, you’re saying: Because the majority of the voting public disagreed with me, they are so egregiously wrong that they need to be given their opinion from now on.

Your vision reminds me more of a fascist dictatorship than a democracy.  But I guess the thought police wouldn’t approve of that opinion would they?

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By AnnMullins, April 18, 2008 at 9:25 pm Link to this comment

The Republicans, being less idealistic than others and more aware of the gulf between their leadership and the average guy, have used advertising most ruthlessly and successfully. (Techniques from focus groups to scans of brain temperature changes).
The point is that there is a monumental amount of intentional miseducation going on, and its working. Fifteen percent still think Obama is Muslin. How to state it clearly? People don’t have mountains of time to untangle every upsetting, confusing thing they hear. Democracy requires that the time people have to inform themselves not be wasted on miseducation. I would like to see warning labels running along the bottom of bad tv about things like hiring a friend to represent your opponent really badly, distortion of your opponents position, cherry-picked facts, conflict of interest, insinuating some halftruth into the public dialog through brute force repetition. I would like a rotating jury of ordinary people to be able to decide the stories they want to hear, and for every broadcaster to be required to devote some hours each day to these stories and public education about politics, civics and history, with dynamic interesting and honest educators. I would like to see public Universities develop a set of facts, debateable online, that would have to be dealt with as the facts accepted by x percent of knowledgeable folk as true.

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By Blackspeare, April 18, 2008 at 8:07 pm Link to this comment

I hope for all of out sakes that there is a note of sarcasm in your tone: hope all Americans are thanking the Almighty that we have such a fine president. He is a God-fearing Christian and he is carrying God’s mighty sword against the evil doers who wish to destroy us and the American way. He has the wisdom to fight them over there so we won’t have to fight them over here. Oh, how the wicked will fall at the feet of the Savior! I get so angry when I hear the Godless liberals put down Mr. Bush. He is a man who knows what is right. Why, some people say we shouldn’t use torture against terrorists who want to kill us. What would happen if one of those Middle East countries got a nuclear bomb ready to go off and wouldn’t tell us where it is? Haven’t you liberals seen the TV show 24!? I know that gas is a little expensive but it is a small price to pay for Mr. Bush keeping us safe and his backers living the good life they are accustomed too. We live in the greatest country on earth and we have the smartest leader of anyone. Praise God! Now, before I forget, ya’ll go out and defeat Obama. Don’t ya’ll know he is a latent Muslim and worse a closet Marxist? We must elect McCain so we stay on this righteous path! By the way, now is a great time to buy a Hummer. I know our local dealer is giving some good deals on them now. We are the only country on earth that knows how to build a “man’s” car. Boy, I feel better gettin’ those ideas off my chest. Ain’t it great to be an American!?

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By Marshall, April 18, 2008 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment

Well once again your premise presupposes its conclusion - that electing Bush to a second term was a disaster (I’m assuming you give the public a pass on the first term because it was pre-Iraq).

Whatever your belief about the decision to invade (which I agree was probably not a good one), many smart, informed people believe that pulling out prematurely would be a far worse idea.  To those of us who believe this, reelecting Bush was absolutely the right thing to do.

Neither do most people cast their vote on a single issue, and there were numerous other reasons to support Bush over the competition that have also turned out to be good ones; the ensuing strong economy to name one.

From the line of reasoning in your post, I suspect that your teacher Brameld meant something different from his reply than you took from it.

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By Claus-Erik Hamle, April 18, 2008 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment
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According to Dr Bob Bowman, former chief of US Air Force Missile Defense, missile defense is the missing link to a First Strike. Dr Bob Bowman thinks missiles in Poland will be very useful to shoot down any surviving Russian missiles after a First Strike. Therefore the Russians will implement Launch On Warning. The terrible consequences of a mistake will be caused by the stupid Pentagon. Dr Bob Bowman agrees that the Pentagon (McCain?) will get disarming first-strike capability by 2011/12. Acc. to former Trident missile engineer Bob US Navy can track and destroy all enemy subs simultaneously. The main danger is Russian Launch On Warning because of US First-Strike Capability. Please read Keir Lieber and Daryl Press, “The Rise of US Nuclear Primacy”, 2006 March/April issue of Foreign Affairs. By 2011/12 the Pentagon will have achieved that the Russians have no choice but Launch On Warning. “Bloody fools in the Pentagon”, as Brigadier Harbottle stated.

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By cyrena, April 18, 2008 at 11:53 am Link to this comment

Great post here. Some of this has crossed our paths here on truthdig before, but not often enough. We need to keep repeating it all.


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By cyrena, April 18, 2008 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

At least you’re honest.

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By cyrena, April 18, 2008 at 11:42 am Link to this comment

We will now. (mention it that is). Thanks for the link. I’ll see to it that it is spread far and wide. smile

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By omop, April 18, 2008 at 7:30 am Link to this comment

To continue along the neocon’s promoted “cakewalk” over the abyss [this is already leading to “an awakening” some of the realities in Iraq and Afghanistan’s] A mighty costly awakening in human and financial as well as world wide standing.

Or a 180 degree opposite road.

Given the human propensities for not remembering or forgetting the past and the fact that the Wall Street Journal America’s flagship of journalism saw fit to publish a prayer [for God’s sake] by a Norman Podhoretz for the USA to nuke Iran and I was betting man.

I would say the odds are 9/5 that Podhoretz’s prayers will be answered and the USA will not cakewalk but in all probability sprint into a calamity.

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By Expat, April 18, 2008 at 7:11 am Link to this comment

^ an awesome post!  By jove, you’ve done it again!  Damn!

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 18, 2008 at 5:37 am Link to this comment

My question was loaded.  I only attempted to have him address what I viewed as being a flaw in democracy.  The Bush administration, IMO, has aptly demonstrated that flaw, i.e., many, not just me, believed invading Iraq was wrong.  Bush was admonished, “You’ll be sorry.”

Then, in 2004, he was re-elected, by a majority of voters.  Even if you factor out the lies, it was a stupid move.
One has to question the merits of a democracy in which this can happen and why it can happen.

Using Brameld’s reasoning, it’s o.k. for a nation to make a devastaing mistake, one that can potentially destroy it—which this very well may—because it was made by democratic process. As I suggested, if you’re going to have and believe in democratic rule, then you’d better well educate—broadly—the electorate and curb the lying by the leaders and the fourth estate.

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By G.Anderson, April 17, 2008 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment

It’s worth repeating… It’s not that the Republican party is mired in scandal, it’s that the Republican Party is the Scandal.

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By 911truthdotorg, April 17, 2008 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment

I will bet you money that the cowardly democrats won’t even mention this S&L;debacle that McCain was involved in with Charles Keating in the late 80’s.

McCain is as corrupt and evil as bush AND Ken Lay.

Google “McCain Keating Five”

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By Marshall, April 17, 2008 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment

It tells me that I don’t know what “MMM” stands for.

But more importantly, your question to Brameld presupposes that you know what’s in the country’s best interests (and that the masses don’t).  That makes it a loaded question.

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By don knutsen, April 17, 2008 at 4:26 pm Link to this comment
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re comment from G. Anderson
” My suggestion, Run Against the Republican party. Their record of greed and coruption is unparelled in our history. “

I couldn’t agree more…We can’t run against the shrub again, but we sure as hell can run against the party that has rubberstamped every incompetant decision they, the republican party have rubber-stamped the last 7+ years.Since so many refuse to see McCain as just another GOP stooge willing to sell his soul to whomever for his own gain, maybe, just maybe, they can be reminded of the party that has been in control all the while thru 9-11, the Iraq clusterfuck, Katrina, and everything else they either agreed with or ignored at the behest of this administration.

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By Dean, April 17, 2008 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment
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Thanks Robert. To this point, I had no idea why I planned to vote for John McCain. Now I know. Because I am stupid and a racist.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 17, 2008 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

I sat in Teddy Brameld’s Democracy class and asked him, “So if you know that the masses are voting for something that is not in their or their country’s best interests, you still believe in their having that control?”  His reply, without batting an eye, “Absolutely!”

Democracy is the way to go, provided its first priority is education and the MMM remains in check.

In the case of the conservatives the last eight years, they have not prioritized educating the voter.  And the MMM has run rampant.  What does that tell you?

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By kath cantarella, April 17, 2008 at 12:16 pm Link to this comment
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the sequel.

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By G.Anderson, April 17, 2008 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

The Republican party has always succeeded in obscuring the economics of their policy’s by focusing on values, that American’s seem to hold dear.

Apple Pie, Mom, Truth Justice, the American way.

They stage the perceptions of the election to be one in which a vote for the Democratic party is a vote for communism. 

While the Republican Party, hides behind the personality of it’s canditate. To question his patriotism is to question all we hold dear.

This is why McCain is the perfect candidate for them.
War Hero POW. He comes in draped in Red White and Blue.

Meanwhile the political, economic policies of the Republican party escape scrutiny.

My suggestion, Run Against the Republican party. Their record of greed and coruption is unparelled in our history.

My guess is they are already sharpening their knives for a Mc Cain victory.

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By Marshall, April 17, 2008 at 11:30 am Link to this comment

Robert Scheer should know better than to succumb to the common practice of the left; invalidating the opposition by denying that they have a valid viewpoint.

Robert Scheer is a regular commentator on an NPR show “Left, Right, and Center”, and he knows full well that his co-hosts - who often disagree with his left-wing positions - are intelligent, informed, and not “dumbed down”.  And he knows full well that they’re not all voting for a Democrat this November.

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By A Khokar, April 17, 2008 at 11:16 am Link to this comment

Believe it or not; the next US President will also be from Conservative; Mr. John McCain, the only conservative candidate.

Where as the Conservative were unable to win the last Congress elections and US had a Democrat Congress but in the driving seat of the US affairs especially of US foreign policy; it is all being run at the will and whims of Conservative President Mr. George W Bush.

The President’s executive power tell us that where as the congress may still be dominated by the Democrats but the President will have his say, his monopoly or even veto power over every thing, especially in the foreign policies matters. The best option for Conservatives in the present scenario may be to win and keep a good hold on president’s seat.

Last President Elections alsotell us that President Bush won just on the marginal votes. The Democrats vote block is already divided in between Hillary and Barak Obama. In view of this Mr. McCain already stands as winner and to turn the elections in Mr. McCain favor; it may not be that difficult!

The good old show of Conservatives and the Neocons policies goes on.

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By JG, April 17, 2008 at 11:01 am Link to this comment
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Thanks for acknowledging my plea, Storey, and for your response also, Kendall-I know you feel the level of frustration. I was talking with my husband on the way to work today (gas prices in WI, by the way, = $3.49 yesterday,$3.59 today) and repeated my plea to him. He indicated that we need to find that which we can influence and do so (work at a shelter; tornado/hurricane relief; Habitate for Humanity type of things). I want more and I want to find others who feel similarly, who are willing to get active and involved.  Any suggestions?  I seriously fear for November….

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By Blog Dog, April 17, 2008 at 10:54 am Link to this comment
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Collapse of the petro-dollar as the market shifts to euro pricing and settlements - that’s the real reason Sadam was taken out - as for insourcing vs. outsourcing - the global oligarchs make no distinction - sovereignty of nations and economies is past - listen to Brzezinski on this - he’s very clear.

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By bobadi, April 17, 2008 at 10:52 am Link to this comment
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Sure, but to the point of the article: Our nation is “stupid” in the sense that ignorance breeds stupidity.
That our people have drunk “the water” of Zionist (and other) propaganda.
Zionism is only a part in this, but it works the same as all others.
Leaders must conform to the memes of religion and corporatism disguised as blind nationalism that has been injected into the the minds of our people.
To become honest, respectable, mindful leaders would make them completely un-electable.
(There is hope in Obama, as he has had to retract much of his original honest thoughts, one of which said something about Palestinians being the most abused people, or something like that)

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By Stone, April 17, 2008 at 10:46 am Link to this comment
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Oh yes - The same moronic drivel “Its all Israel’s fault” is intellectually disingenuous and devoid of historical fact. Israel which occupies 1.5% of the entire middle east land area. Israel which absorbed all of the Jewish refugees expelled from the Arab Nations in 1948 as well as subsequent to that…Ask yourself why the wonderful Arab Nations wouldn’t allow the JORDANIAN refugees (Remember the west bank was Jordan)to be repatriated into their countries…The answer? Then the “refugees” would not have been a political tool to be used in the UN, by the other Arab Nations, etc…

The Arabs hate Israel MORE than they love themselves or their people…Why don’t the rich Nations like Kuwait, The UAE, the Saudis kick in and take care of their own? Too busy building indoor ski areas to the tune of a half a billion dollars to worry about the “poor” refugees…are you sure you don’t work for the Carter Center?

Your moronic lunacy is the result of buying into the leftist drivel…it is making your brain leak!

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By interventor, April 17, 2008 at 10:03 am Link to this comment
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“Are Americans unusually stupid or is it something our president put in the water? “

Typical left wing snob!

Wasn’t that close to the Nazi’s line in Casablanca, except the term was blundering?  The answer was, “Yes, I was with them when they blundered in to Berlin!”

If Americans are so incredibly stupid, why are a majority of the Nobel Prize winners in the hard sciences from the US?

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By felicity, April 17, 2008 at 10:00 am Link to this comment

Google Bush 100 club donors.

Dems sacrificed their integrity on the corporate altar long ago - at least as soon as they woke up to the fact that it takes big money to win an American election.

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By Blog Dog, April 17, 2008 at 8:41 am Link to this comment
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Why trust this poll - easier to fix than an election - elections of 2000 and 2004 were stolen - preparing a semblance of plausibility would logically start now - better enable the cover up.

curiously, I submitted a similar comment yesterday - it didn’t get posted, but I’m getting all the notices of additional postings…probably just a glitch, but in that comment I did include a note about election theft being 2nd only to 9/11 as a media cover up

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By The Professor, April 17, 2008 at 7:18 am Link to this comment
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The point about McCain being viable while Bush enjoys low levels of support is a good one. I am not sure why you had to start with the “last white guy standing” remark though. Congress has an even lower level of support than does the President but yet it is widely expected that the Democrats will pick up seats in both the House and Senate. So has Congress put something into the water to make Americans stupid too? Your interesting commentary is sadly clouded by the fact that you are an ideologue.

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By Richarad Allen, April 17, 2008 at 6:38 am Link to this comment
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Yes, the Islamics are a threat to the US. They mean to destroy us, but Iraq was not a threat. We had Iraq under control. We had no fly zones north and south in Iraq. There were inspectors there and other agencies and many very reliable people who told us repeatedly Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction. We would not allow Saddam to sell his oil, the nation was broke they didn’t have the money to build WMD. Companies and nations that were in Iraq told us Iraq has no WMD. How did they know? Because they were there and had been for years. Plus Saddam hated terrorist and executed everyone he got his hands on. If the people of Iraq were being so abused by Saddam it was their place to rise up and get rid of him.
The administration maligned anyone who stood in El Presidente Jorge Bush’s ‘The Warrior’ way of strutting his stuff and his smirk as he downed the evil nations of NK,Iran,and Iraq. He wanted Iraq because Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 1 so Bush 2 wanted to take him out for that and that should also square Bush 2 for wanting to fight Bush I when Bush 2 was in a drunken state in Bush 2’s younger days. We had Iraq under control. We could have kept Iraq, NK, and Iran under control just as we are doing with Iran and NK now without the outpouring of American blood and dollars as we are doing now in Iraq. The war in Iraq has proved to be a disaster of major consequences and the full measure of that disaster has yet to be felt. When a country commits itself to war it certainly should not be under some globalist to hell with the US Constitution tin horn president. We must contain and eventually destroy the Islamics just as we did the USSR. We need leadership for that, but it certainly does not exist in the present leaders and those front runner candidates who want to be president.
And YES McShamesty supports Bush and wants to carry on the war in Iraq One Hundred Years and bomb bomb bomb.

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By Kendall, April 17, 2008 at 3:41 am Link to this comment

His hands are like swollen claws, like his face. 
Worse is that old-man whistle that emanates when he speaks ‘S’ words. 

Now that’s torture.

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By Kendall, April 17, 2008 at 3:33 am Link to this comment

W. can thank the past 30 years of poor public education, to have elected him. 

Tricking fly-over states’ poor to vote against their best interests—aka gay marriage trumps affordable health care—was pure evil genius.

Too many today have little critical thinking skills—thanks to cutting back public school resources over past decades.

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By Kendall, April 17, 2008 at 3:24 am Link to this comment

How many letters can we write to elected representatives?  How many rallies can we march in?  How much outrage can we express toward our failed Fourth Estate?

Many of us non-dumbed-down have done this, and more.

We are stymied at every turn. 

Ain’t no stopping this crazy-train—until at least November, if we’re lucky.

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By Thurston, April 17, 2008 at 12:38 am Link to this comment
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Actually, “there’s a sucker born every minute” was attributed to P.T. Barnum but was in fact uttered by an associate, David Hannum (’s_a_sucker_born_every_minute). You’re probably thinking of Fields’s famous quip “Never give a sucker an even break.”

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By Marshall, April 16, 2008 at 11:39 pm Link to this comment

There are so many mistakes and moveon propaganda talking points in your post that I don’t know where to start.

No credible economist I know of links the war to the U.S. economy.  If anything, it has acted more as a stimulus as defense spending typically does.  And as a percentage of GDP, our current defense spending of 3.5% isn’t even historically high; only 1/2% higher than during Clinton.

The falling dollar has nothing to do with tax cuts or the war.  Period.  It has to do with several things including lower U.S. interest rates, which make foreign investment in the U.S. less attractive.  It has, however, increased exports and exerted downward pressure on the U.S. trade deficit - itself one of the variables despite having shrunk in the last few years.

Historically, tax cuts result in increased govt. revenue - and the Bush tax cuts were no exception.  Nor were they “for the rich”, since everyone who paid taxes benefited roughly in line with their tax liability - as it should be. 

And National debt isn’t measured in raw dollars, it’s measured as a percentage of GDP and, as such, is lower now than at any time during the 1980s.  And if you want to lower gas prices, then you’ll need to do two things (neither of which requires that Bush not be in office):  lower global demand, and discover more oil fields.  Oh yes - and build more refineries.  That’s three.

And the outsourcing issue is and always has been a red herring.  There is no evidence of increased net outsourcing in the U.S. - indeed, “insourcing” is more common.  So called outsourcing is a leftover 2004 election issue that died a deserved death.

And the “corporate elite” whom you credit with destroying the “middle class” (whoever THEY are) are now backing the Democrats.  How does that jibe with your logic?

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By Marshall, April 16, 2008 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

Who are these “Republican fat cats” that funded Bush but are not now funding McCain?

I think you’ll find that the big corporate money is now behind the Democrats.  Does that mean the Dems have sacrificed their integrity on the corporate alter as you believe the Repubs have?

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By Marshall, April 16, 2008 at 10:51 pm Link to this comment

So what about the Democratic Congress - do they get a free pass?

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By Shorey Chapman, April 16, 2008 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment

Aergus’ comment is thoughtful and accurate, as far as it goes.  Infighting has been a mainstay of the left for more than one hundred years.  Since the ‘60’s, Identity Politics has been the main offender, since one group’s gains is always preceived as another’s loss. Let us hope that this election will be the swansong of Identity Politics, once and for all.

No, Mr. Scheer, Americans are by no means all stupid, nor have we “taken leave of our senses.”  We are, however, grievously misinformed (as noted in many comments, this is not an “accident,” but a symptom of the class war) and appropriately frightened and angry (more symptoms). Anyone who is not angry is not paying attention (“I’m so broke, I can’t even afford to pay attention.”).  The CAUSE of these symptoms is an ideology that has hijacked our democracy.  Everyone here knows that. I call it the Reagan Devolution.

As to JG’s plaintive question: “WHAT ELSE DO WE DO?”  I have some thoughts: first, we need to understand that words like “conservative” and “liberal” have become irrelevant; those now in power are Radical Reactionaries - there is nothing “conservative” about them; second, we need to become Radical Progressives - united by our opposition to the class war oppressing us; third, we need to demand that our society finally recognize the REAL “Human Rights”: food, clothing, shelter, education and healthcare, WHETHER ONE HAS MONEY OR NOT - this need not be a Socialist exclusive, since even Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were unable to kill all the bourgeoise - a progressive tax, the widest possible ownership and serious regulation would provide the means; and, last, we must recognize that working within this system is doomed to failure - we need a new incarnation of Gandhi’Martin Luther King, Jr. to organize massive civil disobedience - power respects nothing except equal and opposite power.

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By The Old Hooligan, April 16, 2008 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

December 2012. The jig’s up, the show’s over, stick a fork in Humanity ‘cause we’re -all- done.

Not so far away now…

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By cann4ing, April 16, 2008 at 8:44 pm Link to this comment

Actually, Paolo, the better one is a variation of a Mort Saul joke.

“Back in the beginning of the country we had Washington, Adams, Jefferson who wrote the Declaration of Independence.  Today, the top guy is George W. Bush.

“You know what that proves, don’t you?

“—Darwin was wrong!”

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By cann4ing, April 16, 2008 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

Interesting observation Michael Shaw.  In the 1970s John Pilger interviewed the dissident novelist Zdener Urbanek in Stalinist Czechoslovakia.  Urbanek said:  “In dictatorships we are more fortunate than you in the West in one respect.  We believe nothing of what we read in the newspapers and nothing of what we watch on television, because we know its propaganda and lies.  Unlike you in the West, we’ve learned to look behind the propaganda and to read between the lines, and unlike you, we know that the real truth is always subversive.”

Then there was Bill Moyers addressing the conference on media reform on May 15, 2005:  “I came to see that news is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity.”

The problem created by unrestrained capitalism surfaces where a gaping chasm of wealth disparity translates into political inequality.  FDR understood this.  The New Deal entailed more than reining in the unregulated excesses of free market capitalism.  With the Federal Communications Act of 1934, FDR sought to, in Moyers’ words, prevent “a monopoly of commercial values from overwhelming democratic values:  to ensure that the official view of reality—corporate or government-was not the only view of reality that reached the people.”  This was accomplished by rules limiting media consolidation, the Fairness Doctrine and the Equal Time Rule.

The shortfall of the 1934 Act, like that of the New Deal itself, is that, while it sought to check greed through a modicum of regulations, it left in place conservative forces devoted to inequality of wealth and power.  During the Reagan administration, those forces began to roll back the limits by repealing the Fairness Doctrine.  As the result of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and FCC rulings, corporate consolidation has led to a point where six major media conglomerates control most of what Americans see, hear and read.

As James Madison astutely observed, “knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives.”  An information dissemination system capable of exposing the deceit of government is vital to the survival of democracy.  Our information dissemination system has been entrusted to corporations which are, by their very structure, hostile to democracy.  Corporations don’t exist to protect the public interest.  They exist to turn a profit.  This vital function is in the hands of Ruppert Murdoch’s News Corp., and MSNBC, a subsidiary of GE, the nation’s second largest arms manufacturer.  These corporations, when they are not diverting attention with sports and entertainment, are actively deceiving the public through near continuous propaganda.  Where the framers gave us the First Amendment anticipating that the press would act as a Fourth Estate, exposing the deceits of government, the corporate media has found it far more lucrative to throw in with power.

Propaganda is most effective when it is invisible.  The success of the corporate media as an agent of deception is that most Americans do not see the deception.  They are not stupid.  They are uninformed!

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By Blog Dog, April 16, 2008 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment
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RE: “...majority of voters tell pollsters that they might vote for a candidate who promises more of the same.”


Why believe these polls any more than the results of the last two election? Polls like these are way easier to fix.

Moreover, if they’re plotting to steal this one too (and why wouldn’t they?) better start fixing polls now - lay the ground work for at least a modicum of plausibility.

Election theft is the 2nd most buried issue in the corporate media - the 1st is the 9/11 coup - the cover up of both runs so deep,  they’ll make the top two stories of the century a hundred years from now.

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By Paolo, April 16, 2008 at 7:23 pm Link to this comment

BTW, in case you thought the common American was stupid, while the leadership is brilliant, consider the fact that both G W Bush and John McCain are unable to distinguish between Sunni and Shi’ite Islam, yet somehow think they are able to referee thousand-year-old rivalries in the Middle East. So our leaders are just as stupid—maybe even stupider—than the unwashed masses.

Again—Americans are just plain stupid. (Present company excepted, of course.)

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By Paolo, April 16, 2008 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment

The opening four words of this essay say it all:

“Are Americans unusually stupid…?”

The answer is: yup.

Americans have been successfully “dumbed down” by a public school system imported from Imperial Germany (Prussia) in the 19th century, and heartily embraced by early American corporatists (aka “fascists”) such as John D. Rockefeller, J. P. Morgan, and Andrew Carnegie. The Prussian school system emphasized giving students just a little bit of knowledge in short, 45-minute classes, interrupted by bells that would signal the poor lower-class brutes to march to the next “class.” By doing this, the Prussians hoped to create a citizenry that was, above all, obedient to authority. Why? To provide cannon-fodder and factory-fodder for the Prussian state and Prussian war machine.

Sounds a little bit like the current USA, don’t you think?

Most Americans (present company at Truthdig excepted, of course) are stupid. This is why they can groan about the state of affairs under their nitwit king, G. W. Bush, yet embrace his carbon copy, the even more foul-mouthed, loathsome John McCain.

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By jackpine savage, April 16, 2008 at 5:51 pm Link to this comment

“You guys” is pretty broad, isn’t it?  So tell us, what was going on in Tibet?

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By cyrena, April 16, 2008 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

Thanks for the Mr. RealFish. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Now of course I’ve been pretty damn angry myself…I don’t know if I’d call it bitter, but definitely pissed at the kitchen sink stuff. Now of course not to the extent of even thinking about McCain, but yeah..pissed enough to maybe vote for mickey mouse over hillary if she were to be the dems candidate.

So yeah, I think you’ve explained those puzzling poll results quite well. I honestly cannot see a difference between McCain and Hillary. People keep telling me that I MUST, and again, it’s like telling ME at least, that the emperor actually has on clothes, when I know damn well that he doesn’t.

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By Kevin James, April 16, 2008 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment
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The problem is that Obama doesn’t have the balls to stand up to Israel’s Jewish supporters in the US ie: AIPAC. He just assured us today by criticizing Carter for meeting with Hammas. Mind you that is the position of most right wing pro-Israeli Jews in US and Israel not the majority of the Jews world wide or here at home.
You have to figure that the vast many of America’s problems today are stemming from it’s unconditional support for the right wing Israeli factions, Neocons and the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel and Apartheid practices. Israel while destroying the Palestinian human fiber in the occupied territories has for years angered Arabs and Muslims and many others and created the excuse and the reason for Islamic militancy in the Arab world. The behind the door back deal with the dictators and the royal families in the Arab territories while hypocritically giving a cart blanch to friends to be killing their own civilian population and stop any dissent with blood shed has contributed much to where America is today morally and financially.
So unless Obama able to free himself from the web of double standards and hypocricy championed by many on J and K street how can we possibly think anything is going to change. Where is the hope in that?

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By don knutsen, April 16, 2008 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment
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I think I can answer the first sentence in this article….YES ! Americans have proven themselves to be incredibly stupid, shallow enough to take all the vapid gruel dished out by the corporate GOP loving media moguls and asking for more. We seem to have a memory about as long as it takes to go to the frig. and grab a beer. Its all tumbling down around us and yet so many are apparently willing to let our dismantled goverment remain in the hands of the ones who did so much to tear it apart. Were so damn dumb were even gonna let Cheney & Bush retire without ever being held to account for what they have done. Cheney is busy moving his fortunes overseas, while their polices continue to bankrupt our nation. He and bush have numerous corporate financial rewards waiting them, just as his father did, and his father before that. The Bush family is never held to account and you don’t have to dig very deep to find a bush connected to so many criminal conspiracies over the past 60 years. YES, Americans are pretty friggin stupid.

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By dicl, April 16, 2008 at 3:54 pm Link to this comment
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Why? Read Mills’ “The Power Elite” particularly the chapter “The Masses”. In essence, the masses are controlled by the media, which are owned by the power elite. By control is meant thoughts, words, and actions of the masses.

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By Suasponte, April 16, 2008 at 3:15 pm Link to this comment
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It’s become commonplace to see wave after wave of these boobs waving their flags and hoisting their Bibles as they run to vote against themselves in response to the rightwinger talk radio liars and the scoundrels at Fox Newstwister Cesspool who convince them that Jesus is a Republican, because the Democrats are a community of communists, socialists, atheists, and perverts. The Neofascists controlling the stooges in the Republican Party, the media, and the economy have done, and continue to do, very well for themselves. It appears that McBush may end up in the White House to continue the Bush II Disaster (especially if a week before the election a code red alarm shows up on Ridge’s color chart that he devised after seeing the crayons and coloring books on the desk in the Oval Office).

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By Ret. GI, April 16, 2008 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment
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My kids are past the draft age, my grandchildren have two decades before they have to worry.

I would vote for McCain to punish this country.

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By I-hate-it-when-that-happens, April 16, 2008 at 3:00 pm Link to this comment
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McCain is the obnoxious carbon copy of Bush. And that my fellow Americans is why old balls won’t make it to the whitehouse.

Hillary MIGHT be a decent person, but she is also too entrenched in a broken system of government that rewards the few at the cost of many. And her campaign is nothing short of schizophrenic and poorly managed.

Barack will be sitting in the Oval Office soon. He will probably be the first president in an awfully long time who will be able to uplift America and make the necessary changes to move our country forward after Bush and his steaming pile of an administration are ushered out the back door.

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By samosamo, April 16, 2008 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

This could be the vector of the mind controlling of americans. I cannot but read cyrena and see myself from kid to adult and all the mind control factors used to keep people in a disney land state of mind. It is real hard to change the thoughts, feelings and concepts of an individual much less a mob of people that have long since been convinced that their priorities don’t have to be based on anything except that the ‘authorities’ will take care of you.
My earliest experience with reality was when I went to one of the pastors of the huge protestant church that I realize one day that I was a member of by baptism and asked the pastor ‘WHEN jesus comes back, would he come here(USA) or in Russia?’ I asked this as being totally brain washed in believing the magical life of a man that was just ‘wanting people to get along’- a phrase that I have come to find here later in life that neocons and a lot of conservative people abhor.
And now that I have shucked a lot of the old day’s cliches a bravado and am trying to find the truth in a world that is anything but friendly, I have come to abhor the very people who cannot and will not open the door to reality. They are the ones who are so prejudice, so racist, so bias and hateful, all hiding behind that stupid religious grin that makes them feel safe and secure and ready at the drop of a hat to comply with whatever the elitists demand of them.
Why does anyone think other, that when the defining moment comes to pull the switch in the voting box that all those fears will rise up and so something like ‘vote mccain’? I truly believe it can happen. I also believe that the clintons are doing everything they can to get a white woman on the democratic ticket , maybe even consulting with kkkrove as how to do it.
But life was set up to include racism, prejudices and hate & anger. Outlawing them does not stop it.
Life is fleeting and I feel that the end game is coming upon us just like people who had never heard of tsunamis stood on the beach just to watch the waves roll in back in 2004. Massive loss of life is not a fun thing unless you are pulling the trigger.

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By calibpatriot, April 16, 2008 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
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There is something very Faustian regarding McCain’s shameless sucking up to Bush but with the caveat that Faust at least received a material reward for the price of his soul.  What does Bush have to offer?  The worse economy since the 1930s, one of this country’s most unpopular wars, the Bush record regarding the shredding of our constitution and establishing a policy of torturing prisoners, Guantanemo and Bush’s suspension of the sacro-sanct policy of Habeus Corpus which has been the guiding principal of Anglo-saxon law for at least 800 years.  McCain cut a lousy deal with the dev,…, I mean Bush.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 16, 2008 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment

There’s no middle/working class ownership.  Not of the candidates, not of the election and not politics. 

After lifetimes of being conditioned to believe that presidential and congressional elections are about something other than the middle/working class, what incentive is there for us to believe that getting out to vote will change our lot?

Who do we vote for? 

It’s not stupidity.  It’s not the water.  It’s common sense and generations of watching and listening.  There will never be a candidate make it to November who is about the middle/working class and we know it.

Like Michelle Obama just said, “Her Dad went out every day, he was disabled, to work a city job.  He raised a family of four on a city worker’s salary.  Back then, you could do that.”

Washington has done well its main job, seeing to it that working people can no longer support their families and that the fruits of their hard work should remain with the corps. who hire them.  This is not rocket science nor is it water.  You live it, you know it. 

Next subject??

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By Stephen Werny, April 16, 2008 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment
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“Are Americans unusually stupid ... ?”

As a Canadian watching the political discourse safely tucked up here, north of the border, I can tell you the answer to that: yes.

From torture to the imminent recession to the illegal war in Irag to the suspension of Habeus Corpus to… well, I could go on. That the President has an abysmal approval rating yet McCain, or “Mini-Bush” at this point, essentiaslly endorsing all of W’s failed policies, can seem even slightly electable… hmmmm… I guess that’s what happens when the media focuses so much on bowling style, the price of haircuts and “Hey, Obabam said poor white people are bitter!”

Maybe its time to stop blaming the media, America, and take along look in the mirror. This, after all, is the same country that RE-ELECTED Bush! So maybe a third term is what the “bitter” masses want. After all, McCain wasn’t the son of an Admiral and marry a heiress or anything… right?

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By TDoff, April 16, 2008 at 1:12 pm Link to this comment

Does anyone know when McCain’s lobotomy is scheduled?

And if he wants to be ‘Just like Bush’, he should have his tongue twisted and a testiclectomy at the same time.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 16, 2008 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment

P.T. Barnum’s

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By August West, April 16, 2008 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment

“What more than doubled the price of petroleum in the short run was not that too many of us bought Hummers, but rather that the political stability of the region that contains the bulk of that oil was deliberately and recklessly roiled.”

I would add the Bush economic policies as pushing up the price of oil here in the USA.  The cost is going up for us a lot faster than in other nations because of our weak currency.  Note the fall of the dollar, which has gone from $1.35 per euro last June to nearly $1.60 today.  Why is our currency falling?  The Bush tax cuts for the rich combined with outrageous spending on an illegal war and occupation.  We’ve added more than $3.3 trillion to the national debt since the Bush criminal gang seized power.  We’ve outsourced our good manufacturing jobs to Asia. 

The rise in energy prices is killing the consumer economy, which was only kept roaring in the past decade due to the housing bubble as lots of people tapped into their home equity to buy consumer goods, like that barbeque island, the motorboat, or the RV.  I’m spending so much more for gasoline that I have to cut back on what I spend on clothing, entertainment, and other discretionary expenses. 
Four more years of Bush/McCain and then what?  What damn wedge issue can be more important than wheteher we should allow the corporate elite and their props to continue to destroy the middle class?

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By tresriogrande, April 16, 2008 at 12:35 pm Link to this comment
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You guys commenting here are not immune from this disease. Just last week everyone was jumping on the bandwagon accusing China of human rights abuse in Tibet while you have no idea what’s going on.

You are just as pathetic as the general public.

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By felicity, April 16, 2008 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment

McCain continues to be short on money.  The Republican fat cats who financed the campaigns of Reagan, Bush I and Bush II are, as of now, not willing to finance John.  He needs their money and the only way he’s going to get it is to convince them that he’ll work for their best interests - and only their interests. Thus his tied-at-the-umbilical-cord-to-Bush policies.

And the rest of the electorate?  It’s not what McCain is, it’s what he isn’t - Obama, Clinton, a Democrat. Given our totally screwed system, they are forced to vote for McCain, in other words, the other.

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By cann4ing, April 16, 2008 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment

“There’s a sucker born every minute” was W.C. Fields’ line.  So was “never drink before lunch, and always have lunch sharply at 9 a.m.”

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By MAR, April 16, 2008 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment

The same sort of rot, the same ingrown families, the same massive corruption, the same self-advertised image of freedom, power and opulence captured the imaginations of latter day Romans until the rot cut away at the heart of the Empire - read Gibbons, as I have done recently. The parallels are striking. The grafting into the Imperium of specially favored families, the increased predominance of military and conquest-oriented leaders, and finally bread and circuses for the great unwashed - what better description of fast food and TV. How can Americans be so stupid and gullible to go for more of the same?

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By Hammo, April 16, 2008 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment

There are indications, based on several factors, that under a President McCain, we could see the re-activation of the military draft.

Food for thought in the article ...

“Military Draft Needed for War With Iran and Syria?”
By Steve Hammons
20 September 2006

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By purplewolf, April 16, 2008 at 11:30 am Link to this comment

It’s called mob rule mentality. People in a group will go along with the group and do things they would never do on their own.

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By cyrena, April 16, 2008 at 11:28 am Link to this comment

Uh blueboy1938…

Thanks..I think. I swear I hadn’t noticed,(the number of posts) though I do know that more than a few folks here would very much like it if I would just shut up. smile

So, I had to sort of think for a few minutes on your congratulations, because I guess I’m a little paranoid or something.

But, I’m pretty sure that yours is a sincere notation, and I very much appreciate it. (Just don’t let too many others take note, OK?) wink

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By Ostrogoth, April 16, 2008 at 11:24 am Link to this comment

“Are Americans unusually stupid or is it something our president put in the water?”

Great opening line. I don’t know about being unusually stupid, but Americans are as greedy and gullible as the next guy. Imperialism is the oldest racket there is, and Americans seem determined to prove the truth of the adage that there’s a sucker born every minute. Our current unscrupulous, predatory leaders relentlessly extol the virtues of radical capitalism, religious intolerance, torture, and permanent war. It’s all a scam—a vicious, global, Ponzi scheme, in which only the most ruthless predators prevail. The rest of us get eaten alive. Most Americans knew/suspected that greed was behind the murder of a million innocent Iraqis, but did nothing to stop the rapine, because they hoped to get a share of the loot. Didn’t happen. Tsk, tsk, life is so unfair. McCain’s savage, atavistic siren song promises pirates’ plunder for all if only we stay the course. My money says that Americans’ greed, abetted by fear and ignorance, will again overcome the better angels of their nature.

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By cyrena, April 16, 2008 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

Thanks Louise…and you too Ernest. I love your wisdom. Makes me feel ‘wealthy’ even if I’m poor. smile

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By JG, April 16, 2008 at 11:18 am Link to this comment
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Trtuhfylly, I most sincerely thank all those who take the time to tell it like it is, that we, the people and the country we love, are in some of the most serious trouble of our times. More of the same Republican horror if McCain gets in?  You bet. Vote for even the yeller dog if he/she is the Democratic nominee? Damn skippy…. Get involved, raise a ruckus, rock the vote, tell everyone you know who needs enlightenment, say your prayers, try not to think of kissing your a** goodbye, hope for the best but anticipate the worst?  Allright then-WHAT ELSE DO WE DO? I am not trying to be a smart a** here-I am seriously looking for guidance.  I am a retired Navy vet. I LOVE THIS COUNTRY. I hate seeing what we have become. I am not afraid to speak my mind to those who will listen and to plenty who try and ignore me.  What else can we do?  Constructive comments please-this is no joke. I seek a serious outlet for all this energy to keep another Republican from continuing to send this country the way of the Titanic…..

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