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A Torture Debate Among HealersPosted on Apr 9, 2008By Amy Goodman Imagine, a candidate for president who, a year or so ago, no one would have considered electable. Now the person is the front-runner, with a groundswell of grass-roots support, threatening the sense of inevitability of the Establishment candidates. No, I’m not talking about the U.S. presidential race, but the race for president of the largest association of psychologists in the world, the American Psychological Association (APA). At the heart of the election is a raging debate over torture and interrogations. While the other healing professions, including the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association, bar their members from participating in interrogations, the APA leadership has fought against such a restriction. Frustrated with the APA, a New York psychoanalyst, Dr. Steven Reisner, has thrown his hat into the ring. Last year, Reisner and other dissident psychologists formed the Coalition for an Ethical Psychology in an attempt to force a moratorium against participation by APA members in harsh interrogations. During the initial phase of this year’s selection process, Reisner received the most nominating votes. He is running on a platform opposing the use of psychologists to oversee abusive and coercive interrogations of prisoners at Guantanamo, secret CIA black sites or anywhere else international law or the Geneva Conventions are said not to apply. The issue came to a head at the 2007 APA annual convention. After days of late-night negotiations, the moratorium came up for a climactic vote. We saw a surreal scene on the convention floor: Uniformed military were out in force. Men and women in desert camo and Navy whites worked the APA Council of Representatives, and officers in crisp dress uniforms stepped to the microphones. Military psychologists insisted that they help make interrogations safe, ethical and legal, and cited instances where psychologists allegedly intervened to stop abuse. “If we remove psychologists from these facilities, people are going to die!” boomed Col. Larry James of the U.S. Army, chief psychologist at Guantanamo Bay and a member of the APA governing body. Dr. Laurie Wagner, a Dallas psychologist, shot back, “If psychologists have to be there in order to keep detainees from being killed, then those conditions are so horrendous that the only moral and ethical thing to do is to protest by leaving.” The moratorium failed, and instead a watered-down resolution passed, outlining 19 harsh interrogation techniques that were banned, but only if “used in a manner that represents significant pain or suffering or in a manner that a reasonable person would judge to cause lasting harm.” In other words, this loophole allowed, you can rough people up, just don’t do permanent harm. Immediately after the vote, Reisner spoke out at a packed town hall meeting: “If we cannot say, ‘No, we will not participate in enhanced interrogations at CIA black sites,’ I think we have to seriously question what we are as an organization and, for me, what my allegiance is to this organization, or whether we might have to criticize it from outside the organization at this point.” Reisner and others began withholding dues. Prominent APA members resigned, and the best-selling author of “Reviving Ophelia,” Mary Pipher, returned her APA Presidential Citation award. After several months of bad publicity and internal negotiations, an emergency committee redrafted that resolution, removing the loopholes and affirming the outright prohibition of 19 techniques, like mock executions and waterboarding. When I asked Dr. Reisner, the son of Holocaust survivors, why he would want to head the organization that he has battled for several years, he told me: “If I have this opportunity to make a change, I have a responsibility to do it. I never had the intention of being involved, but the only way to ensure this be changed was by claiming the democratic process in the name of human rights and social-justice issues. I was hoping that mass withholding of dues and mass resignations would shame the APA to come to its senses. It made them take a big step but didn’t go far enough.” He expanded: “American people are sick of the reputation of the United States as torturers, as people who abuse prisoners. American people want to see a restoration of values from war to health care. I think what happens in the APA should point to a direction for the whole country.” The APA’s annual meeting is this summer, in Boston. Expect interrogation to be the major issue confronting the members gathered there. Final voting for the APA president starts in October. The APA and the United States will determine their next presidents at about the same time. In both elections, a thorough debate on torture should be central. Amy Goodman is the host of “Democracy Now!,” a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on 650 stations in North America.
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By richard carroll, April 18 at 9:20 pm #
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If I did’nt know better, I would have taken your “novella” as the ramblings of a self-destructive child of the seventies. It was either very good humor or the type of misdirection that the military practices. Thanks for the uneccessary fear but in conversational terms it would be passive agression- good try!
Report thisBy weather, April 11 at 3:56 pm #
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Arrest Silverstein/Bushcon and heal or stay stuck in the lie.
Report thisBy Telma, April 11 at 2:31 pm #
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In all Latin America, dictatorial governments were sponsored by the United States since early 60’s. These governments, without a single exception, were keen in the use of torture, assassinations and wahtever it took to keep them in power. The “School of the Americas” brought to Latin America the clear message from the United States. But it looks like that as long as it was ABROAD, far way from the American territory, it did not matter. In the same way that the spying program only bothers some because it is now “domestic”. How long is it going to take for a Nation to realize that waht has being done to “the others” will come home? For now it looks like that a Nation that has been “exporting” torture for decades, is just starting to realize that this has been the real image of the United States abroad even before Abu Ghraib photos...No Laos, no East Timor , no Pinochet, no Khmer Rouge, not a single atrocity sponsored by USA/CIA has been effective to show americans that what is being done for decades to “the others” is actually the real message representing this country - This looks like DENIAL - And APA, it looks like, just echoes what has been the “Voice of America” to others...Is there hope for a change or just a “better covers” will be brought to the table? The change would require a full evaluation of the silence that has been the core of the whole issue - cultural silence.
Report thisBy Bill Blackolive, April 11 at 7:17 am #
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Ours is a history of denial, to start...genocide, slavery...segregated church attendance etc etc. Hypocrisy becomes schizoid. And now, the nation is drugged, and does not care. Now, we must wait for disaster....Maybe then, we will take on the 9/ll coverup....
Report thisBy addisonsteele, April 10 at 2:49 pm #
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I am not surprised that there is resistance to prohibiting psychologists from attending and assisting torture (let’s be honest about what is being discussed) sessions. As Alston Chase discussed in his book about the Unibomber, A Mind for Murder (which addressed the psychological experiments conducted at Harvard on Ted Kaczynski without his informed consent), the American Psychological Association has always resisted the imposition of any ethical standards that might prevent psychologists from doing almost anything. For example, the APA expressly rejects the Nuremburg Standards, adopted by every other medical organization, forbidding the use of fraud and requiring informed consent in the conduct of experiments, because psychologists want to be free to conduct secret experiments. I wouldn’t be surprised if the government psychologists were actually directing the torture sessions.
Report thisBy Tom Doff, April 10 at 10:06 am #
Many shrinks enter the field because they, justifiably, question their own sanity.
Report thisThe fact that their association is debating whether or not to participate in torture sessions reveals that those of questionable sanity hold considerable power in the Association.
Perhaps one of the others should register a plea of ‘Oh, lay down your whips, ye healers of the mind’.
By Tom Doff, April 10 at 8:30 am #
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First things first. One step at a time.
Report thisConsidering the mental dysfunctionality of many shrinks, before insisting they remove themselves from ‘overseeing’ torture, we should demand that they cease performing torture.
By jleman, April 10 at 6:54 am #
It is noted that the psychiatrists have to study the physical body as well as the mind as opposed to psychologists who mainly concentrate on the mind. Therefore, in torture situations and “intensive interrogations” psychologists would be the lesser of the two to be able to objectively say whether torture or techniques would inflict permanent physical or psychological damage. And, as the organization of the more apt professionals are against this - this should be a no brainer except for someone like Cheney or Bush who have never had to endure “enhanced interrogation techniques” or even appear before Congress to answer subpoenas. As a matter of fact, they even refuse to be questioned, under oath, of any illegality they have openly committed. Even their boy was given a free pass on jail time, by them, after being found guilty by a jury of his peers. (Wonder what a little threat like water boarding would have made his lips spring forth?)
Report thisInteresting that even the sanctity of client and lawyer interchange has been violated by this administration while they refuse to submit to questioning under oath, and they put forth torture as a valid form of questioning.
To have an organization of healers go along with this farce under the banner of “anything goes while we fly the flag” makes me feel like a trip to the bathroom.
It should be noted that during WWII, the Nazi’s made medical advances in concentration camps which our medical science uses today. Maybe we should coin a term like “Inquisitor Psychologist” for a fitting job title? An advanced degree program at maybe one of the right wing religious universities just jumps out at me! Similar to their law programs?
By jackpine savage, April 10 at 3:04 am #
That torture should even be an issue of “debate” in America only shows how far we’ve sunk.
While psychologists may (or may not) take the Hippocratic oath...i don’t know...psychiatrists have medical degrees, which means taking the oath. I believe that the first rule is “Do no harm.”
But i suppose that when it comes down to “defending” the fatherland there are more important things. Our debasement is nearly complete. While people are completely wrapped up in who might be the next president, the nation is further and further enveloped by the dark side.
The powers that be are presenting the ultimate in bread and circuses; like good little plebes, we root and cheer...oblivious to the wholesale destruction of our Republic and everything for which it stands. The flag will protect us if only we wrap ourselves tightly enough in it, right?
Report thisBy weather, April 10 at 3:03 am #
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Amy pls. stop making sense.
Get your CV to Obama, if they don’t already have it and help his org. kindly engage Steven Reisner too - you give more than insight and prespective, you give hope.
Thank you again.
Report thisBy IDoNoTKnODanSir, April 10 at 2:14 am #
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Found it interesting that this topic has found its way to the top. I spent the night looking for a story from a fairly good time back that was tinfoilish to say the least and certainly never made its way into the dig. The story surrounded the quelling of dissent through the utilization of a weapon that was able to target web users who were politically incorrect while they sat at their keyboards. Subjecting them to some type of microwave beam or pulse causing discomfort or even long term compromised health and or worse?
Unable to find the story by search, not remembering the web outlet it had eminated from, and not fully remembering the components of the story much less it’s title, I needless to say am at wits end.
However I found some pretty bizarre related stories in my goings about...including one that was in mindcontrolforums? where a description of torture utilizing beamed weaponry was employed by some nondescript branch of government in conjunction with some type of psych induced reactionary suggestion that led to causing the target to act or confess or believe any number of things as well as causing one to fall asleep at the wheel or have a heart attack etc etc…
This is not breaking news yet it had been pretty well forgotten by muah atleast. Here is a link describing the weaponry but not the psych interrogation torture angle,
Navy Researching Vomit Beam (Updated)
A migraine ‘coincidentally’ coinciding with someone else’s disrupting an important meeting set me looking for the old story I initially sought to locate.
My apologies if I have been a windbag or way off topic.
Report thisBy Anatole France, April 10 at 1:27 am #
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There were the Salem Witch Trials, the Inquisition, and the McCarthy persecutions.
The Bush Era of Torture will eventually be relegated to an historical position among those iniquities.
Sadly, it will not be in time to save our grandchildren from the consequences of this evangelical libertine.
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