Colin actually WOULD have been a relatively acceptable choice PH, at least until he allowed himself to be used by the thugs.

He wouldn’t be my own pick, but then that’s only because I’m not a repug, and can’t imagine ever voting for one, at least not without a gun to my head. Besides that, I’ve met Powell, and I thought he was a pretty arrogant snob.

On the other hand, he WOULD have been acceptable by more of the population, (say back a decade ago) and he would have done a good job. I do believe that.

But, he really allowed himself to be co-opted, and I know he’ll be kicking himself (or worse) from now on. I also really like his former top deputy of sorts..Lawrence Wilkerson. (maybe his chief of staff?) Anyway, Lawrence tells it like it is. I like Colin’s wife as well. She was not at all happy with his connection to that admin.

Anyway, just thought I’d throw that in.

I notice that Ron Paul DOES still show in the race, and that he was recently doing something about getting on the Montana ballot, but I don’t know what’s happening on that. I wonder if people can just write his name in?

Just to drive the mysogynists and racists crazy, wouldn’t a final McCain/Rice vs. Clinton/Obama presidential race be the nuts?
Not to mention almost guaranteeing us the spectacle of a horse-drawn procession down Pennsylvania Avenue during the next eight years. (Either McCain’s demise by natural causes, or Obama or Clinton by homicide by the other).
And think of the boost to the economy by the rise in stock value of either the Military-Industrial complex stocks, or the fashion industries’ sales of pants suits and shoes.

Because the fact he is assured to lose makes it irrelevant to discuss which candidate can beat McCain, Marshall. Are you sure you needed me to point that implication out to you?

Hey menstrual member…

Were your parents related? Like maybe siblings? Or no, let me guess better, your daddy is also your grandpa.

My brother-in-law is a physician, and has been for nearly 3 decades, and he’s STILL married to my sister. (guess they don’t teach those sorts of relations in your sect). Sorry though, no referrals. He couldn’t help you, and I don’t think there’s a physician alive who could. (Well, maybe Dr. Kevorkian..he’s running for Congress now you know.)

Why are you so concerned about the color of my forehead mensa? You’ve questioned me on it several times now, and it hasn’t changed. It’s still NON-white. Kinda makes one believe that you’re a sick perverted racist.

Clearly I’m overwhelmingly disappointed that Maani and Lib don’t like my posts. What a shame.

Now menstrual…don’t worry you pointed little head about my soul or my mate. Based on the luck of the guttersnipes, looks like you and bert have secured a match made in madness. (is it the Mad Dog 20/20?)

Enjoy…twisted minds do appear to think alike.

4.Bert is a lot smarter than you and always will be.

Thanks, mensa member. 

Of course the competition was all that great.  LOL

By Aegrus, April 9 at 11:17 am #
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Re: Re:

“Gotta love it when someone talks quotes out of context and fails to comprehend the meaning behind the words they quote.”

Aegrus - I’d be happy to hear your explanation of the apparent contradiction.

Gen. Powell would be a very good choice, however the only Republican I would even consider voting for would be Ron Paul.

Gotta love it when someone talks quotes out of context and fails to comprehend the meaning behind the words they quote.

And you’re nuts!  Running our country should not be treated as a game, even if you can make money out of it as a “journalist,” it’s not a professional sport.  It is supposed to be serious.
Being black is one thing.  Being a mean, ruthless bitch is another.
You’ve missed that Rice is both black and ruthless.  And where are you going to find black people to vote for this Republican black woman?  I doubt she would add anything to that ticket except more money for you and the other incredibly dishonest political columnists.
How can you possibly forgive her lack of interest in national security while being in charge of our national security?  Shopping while New Orleans died?  Enabling the distrust of the rest of the world?  And foremost in her duplicity by telling us about that mushroom cloud?!  Talk about lying bitches… it’s the same old crap.  And look at who hired her.  That alone should preclude her from ever holding a higher office.
  Give it up, Eugene.  Go make an honest living and stop harming our country for fun and profit.
How can you continue to insist Obama is going to be the nominee?  In an national election where the votes are counted and applied properly (no Diebold allowed) Hillary will beat McCain by a very wide margin and Obama would lose to him.
Those Democratic gaming tactics don’t apply to the general election, and that’s why there will be a Republican president in 2009 if Obama is the Democratic nominee.  Caucuses, ha!  Insiders who couldn’t care less about we working people, and college kids who haven’t a clue about living in the real world we’ve created this past 50 years.
Obama is a snake-oil salesman.  Oil, something he and Rice have in common.
How much did you pay for gasoline this week?

“it is meaningless to discuss the ability of one candidate to beat McCain.  Know and comprehend John McCain will not win this Fall. It is a statistical impossibility”

Gotta love it when someone contradicts themselves from one sentence to the next.

Eugene,
In your list of images that Condi brings you forgot to mention the iconic Republican symbol of a Chevron oil tanker named the “Condoleezza Rice”. (I know they’ve renamed it, but there’s still the picture in all of our minds)

The critical argument at hand is who will be the Democratic nominee because the person who gets the nomination for the Democratic side will be the person who wins the presidency.

This McCain nonsense is a red herring because people keep talking about him as if he is actually a possible winner. He isn’t. Put side-by-side against any of the Dems and he will not look very good.

People whine and complain about their candidate, and swear to vote McCain or not at all if their specific candidate doesn’t get the Democratic nomination. This is not going to happen, though. Dems will fall in line just how the Neo-Cons and jaded Republicans did behind John McCain, the target of 80% of the vile hate speech on the campaign trail in the first few months.

Please spare me this ridiculous notion that John McCain, the man who wants to perpetuate the occupation of Iraq, go to war with Iran, fuel a second Cold War against Russia, has no clue at all about economics, favors tax cuts for the rich, has no new health care policy, is over seventy, calls his wife a cunt, is emotionally unstable and thinks we should talk to lenders and investors about the best way to handle the mortgage crisis has ANY possibility to be the next president. Please quit feeding the Red Herring, John McCain!

Since credibility has never been an issue for the Republicans and they most likely will be running against Obama, Colin Powell may be a consideration.

Sorry but there are enough americans who are Not Racist enough or Sexist enough to support such a running mate. WE see her disqualifications as clearly as we see Hillary’s. My fear is that this Eelction too will be STOLEN and We’ll be stuck with her running the Country. Granted she’d afford the Media a Field Day on “how do I distrust thee, let me count the ways’ But beware of what you wish for the Country THEY will MAKE it HAPPEN!

I stand corrected on Condi’s age in reference to mine. I intended to say that she is a tad bit YOUNGER than I am. (less than 2 years).

She Billions more dollars than I do however, which was my larger point.

She also claims that her greatest wish is to be the National Football Commissioner.

So, maybe that’s what she’ll buy with her billions. I doubt she’ll go back to her board seat at Exxon-Mobile though, since she doesn’t have to be bothered with sitting through those boring meetings to keep collecting the riches.

Maybe she’ll even take up residency on that tanker that was named after her.

Gee lib in Texas. I didn’t know this about Condi’s sexual preferences, so apparently it ISN’T an ‘open secret’.

SO, how/why are you so interested and pray tell, what difference does it make?

(besides, the texas tabloids that my former coworkers read say she’s had affairs with both Bushes I and II.) I would say that’s hard to imagine, but then again, I don’t really have a reason to imagine it.

So, why would you bring this up? Gee, is it something Freudian?

You’re so RIGHT this time bert!!

WHO KNOWS? You don’t!!

Liza,

She’s not even a STYLISH mouthpiece.

So right. One of the basic things one has to consider are the republican tricks. The republicans have not an ounce of integrity, compassion, patriotism, just no good qualities at all. They are scared, ruthless, conniving, greedy people. So expect and always take them as someone that will approach you for some reason other than what they ask of you.
The idea of ole johnny mccain not being elected whoever the vp choice is not an automatic loss. The 2000 and 2004 elections are proof. A stacked supreme court which had absolutely NO RIGHT to pull the trick game that they did and without much outrage at all. And anyone who thinks the dirty tricks were not in play in 2004 is the poster child of the republican’s dirty tricks ‘gotcha’ moments.
I believe this upcoming election will not be any different as the neocons have gotten so deep into the theft of this country and the world that most any thing that they can do to keep control of the white house will be done.
Don’t forget congress. It will not be enough to try to get the neocons out of the white house but in congress also. That will include any democrat that has played the game for the republicans.

...then we can call them “Flip and Flop”.

The game of “Guess the VP” will soon begin in earnest.  But be careful of your choices——remember the vast majority of past presidents were at one time state governors.  This is the first time that the two opposing candidates will be senators.  It is therefore quite likely that each will select a recent or sitting governor for their VP.  They each need some sort of executive experience to round-out the ticket because it appears that the office of VP is becoming more of a co-president position.

Yeah, MM. This morning on a different thread cyrena was saying something about getting medicare. To receive medicare you have to be 65, unless you are on disability. So…....who knows?

STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY

Would you mind explaining and proving to me why it is a “statistical impossibility” for McCain to win this coming November?

We don’t know that yet and furthermore, it cannot be calculated yet. Plus it is way too early in the game to figure out, especially since there is no certain Democratic nominee yet. Too much can happen between now and Nov. 4 that could cause people to change their minds about who to vote for.

A great site to play around with figuring out who might win enough Electoral College votes =270) is:

http://www.270towin.com/

There you will find an interactive map that has state by state history and polling trends, state by state presidential voting history and much more.

The site issues a caution warning:  While interesting, state-level polling data this far in advance of November is of limited predictive value. Expect to see a good deal of volatility in these numbers at least through the summer.

In other words they can not determine who will win and who will lose, let alone declare it is “statistical impossibility” for McCain to win.

RED HERRING

And how can you call John McCain a red herring?

A red herring is a logical fallacy, not a person,  in which one purports to prove one’s point by means of irrelevant arguments.

A red herring is an argument, given in reply, that does not address the original issue. Critically, a red herring is a deliberate attempt to change the subject or divert the argument. This is known formally in the English vocabulary as Digression which is a neutrally connotated “Red herring”.

Maybe you are just saying that John McCain is irrelevant. If that is what you mean I would warn against ruling him ut yet. He is not my choice and I would never vote for him, but he has a couple of positives he and the Republican smear machine can exploit very well. (i.e. former POW and war hero)

Best rule of thumb - NEVER EVER UNDER ESTIMATE your opponent.

If diebold enables these two to be elected I will start a revolution.

A “dreamless” team ever !

No matter Eugene Robinson’s or your presidential preference, with the Indiana and Pennsylvania primaries approaching, it might be helpful to look again at the heartland state that lies between the two: Ohio.

Eastern Ohio has very similar demographics to the abutting state of Pennsylvania. Western Ohio, likewise, has much in common with neighbors across the state line in Indiana.

Kentucky and West Virginia, to the south, and Michigan, across Ohio’s northern border, also share many of these elements

The article noted below looks at many demographics, histories and psychologies of this region from the point of view of Ohioans, and provides insight about Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia and Michigan:

“Obama faces Ohio hearts and minds”

AmericanChronicle.com
February 28, 2008

http://americanchronicle.com/articles/53747

Condi would be far too risky for McCain.  Her lack of campaign experience is a liability.  Having never been tested under the conditions a candidate for political office faces makes her candidacy an unwise gamble.  Her positions on some of the issues will not motivate the Republican base, thus potentially impeding the GOTV effort.  Most importantly, she was the National Security Adviser at the time of the 9/11 attacks asserting that “nobody could foresee” that planes could be used as weapoons to attack the Pentagon and WTC despite there having been intelligence reports to this effect in 1998 and 1999, as she admitted in the 9/11 commission hearings. She also was part of the “mushroom cloud” echo chamber in the runup to war in Iraq.  There are way too many soundbites that can be used against her. McCain’s VP choice is fair game because the chances of a 72-year-old cancer survivor completing a four-year term in office are far less than that of BO or HRC.

Republicans have “strategists”??? We know already that Condi is the “most qualified and most experienced person” they have, ha ah.

But did you see how happy she was on her trip to Japan, Korea and China a while back. As you say, it wasn’t only that she could get away from white people for a while…....

She could get anything that she wanted, boots and spurs’n'all http://prezis.jp/top.htm

This came from Dan Senor who has NO credibility!!!
Condi would be outed and she doesn’t want that.  She’s been able to keep her sexual preferences pretty much under wraps although it is an open secret.

I was hoping he’d run with Cheney since he’s promising a continuation of this administration. Huckleberry would be good as well since he could represent the snake-handling science-denying crowd.

John McCain will be running with Crist. McCain/Crist, doesn’t have an odious ring to it?

Anyway, who cares about John McCain? Everyone who thinks he has a chance in hell at the presidency this year needs to clear the bats out of their attic. These polls out right now are from two independent campaign trails, where neither Hillary or Barack are specifically standing side-by-side with Johnnyboy just yet. Until a serious presidential campaign begins, post-primary, it is meaningless to discuss the ability of one candidate to beat McCain.

Know and comprehend John McCain will not win this Fall. It is a statistical impossibility, and he has gotten a free-pass on the issues even if he had lots of ad-hominem venom spat in his eye about not being a “true republican” earlier on the campaign trail. The big fact is, John McCain cannot stand toe-to-toe with either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton on the issues, and he lacks the political ability to torch either nominee’s base.

JOHN MCCAIN IS A RED HERRING!

•  “The thing is, though, that—understandably—Rice doesn’t go all the way and make an airtight, Sherman-like statement.”

Ya know Eugene, as much as I don’t like Condi the Rice, and as much as I’m sure that she can’t open her mouth without lying, I honestly DO think she means when she says, “how many ways can I say NO?”

Seriously, she’s a tad bit older than I am, and she’s got more money than god, so why would she bother? NOBODY likes her, and you’ve admitted yourself that she has no political base (other than the bushies) so I don’t get why you all keep thinking that she’s gonna do anything else, other than to follow through on her threat to move to California.

Besides, this sure isn’t the same as hoping that Al Gore’s mind could be changed. Jeeze Eugene. What is UP with you?

•  “I’ve always thought it more likely that she would eventually be tempted to run for the Senate from California, rather than jump right into presidential politics.”

Well, DON’T think on this any longer Eugene. It’s evil thinking. It’s not gonna happen. We’ve been terrorized enough here as it is, between Pelosi, who is an embarrassment and a disgrace, and Diane Feinstein, who’s totally lost her footing, and needs to either retire or be retired. No Eugene, don’t even THINK this. It’ll be bad enough just to have her in the state. I don’t see why she doesn’t go back home to Alabama.

•  “She would, however, provide three things that McCain could really use: relative youth, undeniable pizzazz and photogenic diversity.”

Depends on how you’re figuring ‘relative’ here, as far as the ‘youth part goes’. For the rest, PIZZAZZ? – you’ve gotta be kidding. I can’t think of a duller person out there. Even Hillary has more ‘pizzazz’ than Condi, and that’s saying something. “Photogenic diversity”. Puhleese…

•  “All right, there’s another problem. Rice has described herself as “mildly pro-choice” on abortion and pronounced her support for affirmative action “if it does not lead to quotas.”

“mildly pro-choice?” Is that like being a ‘little bit pregnant’? As for affirmative action, that’s a joke coming from her.

•  “So I won’t hold my breath. But I can’t help but imagine having another controversial, larger-than-life character wade into the fray, one who not only raises McCain’s big wager on Iraq but also takes us further into terra incognita on issues of race and gender”…

Eugene, I think you’re on something this time around….This isn’t the least bit funny either.
Pleeeeese don’t make such suggestions again, not in print or even outloud where you could be overheard by anyone. We’ve been terrorized enough. We can’t take anymore.