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Posted on Mar 27, 2008

By David Sirota

Since the 1960s, bigotry has undergone an aesthetic makeover. Today, the most pernicious racists do not wear pointy hoods, scream epithets and anonymously burn crosses from behind masks. They don starched suits, recite sententious bromides and stage political lynchings before television cameras. For proof, behold the mob stalking Barack Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

Wright has long delivered fiery (and occasionally outrageous) sermons, to little fanfare. Now, though, a gang of thugs is inflicting a guilt-by-association blow to Obama by excoriating his spiritual adviser for three specific declarations.

Sean Hannity, Fox News’ own George Wallace, turned a fire hose on Wright for his church’s focus. “[The church] is all about the black community,” Hannity thundered, claiming that means Wright supports “a black-separatist agenda.”

Pat Buchanan billy-clubbed Wright for saying, “God damn America.” The MSNBC commentator, who avoided the draft, implied that Wright, a former Marine, lacks sufficient loyalty to country. Out of context, Wright’s exclamation was admittedly offensive. But remember: It punctuated a speech about segregation. Buchanan, nonetheless, unleashed, deriding “black hustlers” and insisting descendants of those “brought from Africa in slave ships” owe whites a thank you. “Where is the gratitude?” he asked.

Fox’s Charles Krauthammer berated Wright for saying the 9/11 attacks were “chickens coming home to roost.” Krauthammer labeled the pronouncement “vitriolic divisiveness” despite our government acknowledging the concept of “blowback”—or retaliation—that Wright was referencing. The CIA knows that when it supports foreign dictatorships, there can be blowback from radicals. While blowback is often immoral and undeserved, its existence is undisputed. Yet, Krauthammer alleged that Wright takes “satisfaction in the deaths of 3,000 innocents.”

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In promoting the Wright “controversy,” most media outlets joined this mob and embraced “colorblind racism,” says Duke University’s Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, author of “Racism Without Racists.”

It is polite pinstriped prejudice shrouding bigotry in feigned outrage against extremism—the operative word being feigned. After all, John McCain solicited the endorsement of John Hagee, the pastor who called the Catholic Church “the Great Whore.” Similarly, according to Mother Jones magazine, Hillary Clinton belongs to the “Fellowship,” a secretive group “dedicated to ‘spiritual war’ on behalf of Christ.” She is also friendly with Billy Graham, the minister caught on tape spewing anti-Semitism. But while Wright’s supposed “extremism” blankets the news, McCain and Clinton’s relationships with real extremists receive scant attention.

Why is it “controversial” for one pastor to address the black community, racism and blowback, but OK for another pastor to slander an entire religion? Why is it news that one candidate knows a sometimes-impolitic clergyman, but not news that his opponent associates with an anti-Semite? Does the double standard prove the dominant culture despises a black man confronting taboos but accepts whites spewing hate? Does the very reaction to Wright show he’s right about racism?

Clinton seems to think so. Her aides have been describing as their political “firewall”  the states they believe Obama will lose. That’s campaign-speak for “race wall”—one built with bricks like Pennsylvania and Indiana. These aren’t the near purely white states where racial politics is often muted (and Obama won). They are the slightly diverse states where racial politics simmers and where the black vote is too small to offset a motivated racist vote. This race wall is now being fortified.

ABC News reports that Clinton’s campaign is “pushing the Wright story” ahead of the Pennsylvania and Indiana primaries. The crass tactic is designed to motivate the racist vote by reminding whites of Obama’s connection to the African-American community. Put another way, Clinton’s message has become simply: Obama Is black.

Wright probably expected this brouhaha. He says our government is “controlled by rich white people” and our culture afflicted by racism. Though these statements are also deemed distasteful by the Establishment, they are truisms. You can see their veracity in the collected portraits of white millionaires commonly called the congressional photo directory. Or, just turn on your television and watch the mob continue stoking the Wright “controversy.”

David Sirota is a best-selling author whose newest book, “The Uprising,” will be released in June. He is a fellow at the Campaign for America’s Future and a board member of the Progressive States Network, both nonpartisan organizations. His blog is at www.credoaction.com/sirota.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment

And you think the Black Liberation Theology is a serious religion, so hard not to make fun of the bombs only meant for the blacks and Muslims..

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment

Paolo..

Thank you SOOOO Much!!! You’ve told me absolutely EVERYTHING that I need to know, and gave me the most intertaining, (belly laugh) moment of my day so far.

And…I KNOW, that you could not possibly have made this up. (at least not that fast)! smile

Thanks again.

(I need to get me one of those crystals).

Humm..just an afterthought, what do you suppose Michael Jackson employed to turn himself into a white person?

I hear rumors, (now this is from my almost 16 year old neice) that Jacko Whacko has a fake nose…on account of all those surgeries that jacked-up (no pun intended) his original one. She said it fell off one time, while he was doing some sort of an ‘appearance’. (again - no pun intended).

Now I’m just wondering if him being turned into a white person, (after starting out as a person of obvious color) has anything to do with his religion? He’s a Witness for Jehovah if I’m not mistaken.

Just curious.

Anyway, thanks again. I’ve been thoroughly entertained, and you’ve saved me all the research work.

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You were wrong on a few counts,3800 yds is a few more than a thousand, anything you need to know about weapons ask, I will be more than happy to fill you in. I unlike you wont even be condescending, But its like you said ,Its obvious you dont know shit about any of this..
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By Paolo, March 29, 2008 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

Hi Cyrena,

The “Laman” bloke only appears, of course, in the “Book of Mormon.” The story of the “Book of Mormon” is that some Jewish folk at about the time of Isaiah travelled by ship to the New World, taking a route across the Indian Ocean, around Southeast Asia, across the Pacific, to the west coast of South America.

I’m not making this up.

So these nice Jewish folk ended up settling the New World. One leader, named “Nephi” (there’s an authentic Jewish name for you) was an upright, godly fellow. Another leader, “Laman” (there’s a good Jewish name for you) was evil and was turned into the first Native American. I don’t recall exactly what he did to earn this terrible fate.

Anyway, in the end, the “Nephites” all went bad, so God let the “Lamanites” kill them all off. One of the last of the “Nephites” was this bloke named “Mormon” (there’s a good Jewish name for you), who supposedly put the New World scriptures together before they were “revealed” to Joseph Smith. The prophet Joseph Smith was able to read the ancient scriptures, engraved on plates of solid gold, by looking through a magical crystal supplied to him by an angel named “Moroni” (no, not “I Moron”: it’s “Moroni!”) The crystal allegedly converted the ancient scriptures to King James style English.

So in the Old World, we had “the mark of Cain.” The Bible says God just put an mark, not further described, on Cain. As you noted, racists later “interpreted” this mark to be dark skin.

In the New World, we had the “mark of Laman,” which was a shade of skin tone lighter than Africans, but a bit darker than Caucasians or Jewish folk. 

I’m not making this up.

[Note to any Mormons reading this. I really try not to sound like I’m making fun of your religion. It’s just hard to tell the story without doing so. But if you want to believe it, I suppose it’s no more irrational than any other religion. I apologize most sincerely.]

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment

Paolo,
I had to laugh. It was all good, (the post) but this brought an out loud chuckle:

•  “…That’s right, folks—the first murderer was a Negro! Also, native Americans are descendants of some fellow named Laman, another sinner whom God darkened several shades to differentiate him and his descendants from good, white folk.”..

Now, I DID know about Cain, (and the black stain). So, it that how the ‘races’ came to be? I know that’s what was taught back in the beginnings of the US to justify slavery. But, I never followed it back any further. So presumably, …maybe, Cain started out white, as presumably his brother Abel, (the one he killed) was white. I mean, I’m just ‘guessing here’ since I simply don’t take any of the Old Testament seriously.

So, Cain and Abel are allegedly brothers, and presumably white. Then, Cain kills his brother Abel, and that turns him into a Negro. Is that about how it all got going, this race thing?

Meantime, I had NO IDEA about this Laman character of the Native American persuasion. Where did HE come from? I’ve never even heard of him. I’m so embarrassed. I should know this stuff. Far as I’ve ever been ‘indoctrinated’ from my own Native ancestors, we didn’t much HAVE any of this ‘religion’ or god stuff before the Christians came along. Anyway, let me know if you think it’s worth following up on with more research.

Meantime, here’s a tidbit on murderous people of color. I’m not presenting it as any bona fide fact, because for one thing, you all aren’t likely to CARE, and also because it could be less of a ‘fact’ and more of a family legend.

BUT, according to my mother, my great Uncle, (her father’s brother) was the first person –PERIOD- to be formally executed in the state of Michigan, for killing his wife. Now HE was a Native American, (I have no idea what his wife was). And, like I said, I really don’t even know if this is true. And I say, ‘formally executed’ as different from the MASS executions that were perpetrated against the Indigenous population long before the states came into existence. (or at least Michigan).

Speaking of which, did ya’ll know that Andrew Jackson actually ran on a campaign platform that promised to kill off all remaining Indians? I swear to god. He did. Now THAT much is verifiable. He was known as “The Indian Killer”. Put’s a new meaning to that $20.00 bill, eh? (Beyond the more updated meaning that it’s only actually worth $3.00 now, and that’s falling).
Still, those were some righteous Christians behind him in that campaign. Talk about a lynch mob. They were an oversized lynch MOVEMENT!!

OK…that’s enough history for the moment I guess.

Let me know if this Laman guy is worth investigating, and what sin it was that he committed to become those several shades darker. (I guess it wasn’t as bad as what turned Cain into a Negro).

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment

Louise..

That Greg Palast is a remarkable gift to us all..eh?

Thanks for sharing.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 3:54 pm Link to this comment

TWP posted about white slavery, I guess they got over it, just like we should get over Rev.Wright, If that’s the case, when blacks get reparations for slavery, I will damn sure get mine. just wanna be fare. If Dorothy (the hat) Tillman who makes a few hundred thousand a year as a second rate Alderman can get it, so can I. We just have to get over it.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

so true and yet so sad.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 3:44 pm Link to this comment

Well and good but he should practice what he preaches,Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.”

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By Louise, March 29, 2008 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment

Greg Palast reflects on Easter Suday

God Damn America
Especially Pennsylvania

By Greg Palast
Sunday, March 23, 2008, Forest City, PA

http://www.gregpalast.com/god-damn-america-especially-pennsylvania/#more-1982

“I think even Norman Rockwell would have found this place too sticky sweet, too postcard: the weathered barns, the fallow fields perfectly snow-frosted; red, white and blue flags already up on the clapboard farmhouses and the white-washed church in the valley already full for Easter prayers.

At a gas station, I scored the paper and coffee, spilled some on the front page – the closest thing I’ve got to a religious ritual – then parked in front of a row of insanely pretty salt-box houses shining like mad teeth on the river bank.

One was missing a pick-up in the driveway; its screen door was left half-open, and there was a letter taped to the window. The Sheriff’s Notice of eviction. Another foreclosure.

God damn America.

But why? It seems likes He’s already done a pretty good job of damning these United States.

And He seems to have really taken it out on this corner of Pennsylvania.

The gargantuan Bethlehem steel works have dwindled to a few robot-operated mills controlled from Mumbai, India. The only remainders of nearby Carbondale’s mining industry are in display cases at the ageing Coal Inn. But you could still get out by selling your home to ski tourists from New York – until this year when mortgage markets turned cancerous. That leaves Forest City’s one industry, lumbering – which we can kiss goodbye since a recent ruling by the NAFTA board which allows the import of cheap Canadian wood.

Some local kid has made the paper, having been thrown, helmet first, into the volcano called Iraq. The Scranton Times-Tribune, two pages after the photo of a priest blessing a bowl of who knows what, noted that three soldiers killed in yesterday’s bombing are, “pushing the death toll in the five-year conflict to nearly 4,000” – which is true if you don’t count Iraqi dead. But Someone must be counting them. (From way up in heaven, I wonder if we look like a nation of Christians – or an empire of Romans.)

Phil Ochs, before he killed himself, wrote,

“This is a land full of power and glory,
Beauty that words cannot recall.
But her power shall rest on the strength of her freedom.
Her glory shall rest on us all.”

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By William DeMente, March 29, 2008 at 3:08 pm Link to this comment
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When the framers of the Declaration of Independence stated their belief that all men were created equal, that statement did not include those considered to be savages such as the native and slave populations; a fact that lingered into the latter part of the twentieth century.

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By Leefeller, March 29, 2008 at 1:32 pm Link to this comment

Ignoring the profound speech presented by Obama, toward his pastor, seems to have been ignored by your alleged two sided approach to nothing but the news.  Come on folks, the sermons by pastor Wright are his sermons, Wright is not the presidential candidate. He is simply Obama’s pastor.

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By valkyrie607, March 29, 2008 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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Gregory,

White people are so afraid! This is becoming clearer to me as the election goes on. On so many different levels. We’re scared of individual black guys walking down the street because they’re violent criminals and they might attack. We’re scared of Wright because he sounds so angry! On “instapunk,” the self-same punk voiced his suspicion that black people are… “a fifth column,” I believe—in other words, you all secretly hate us and are simply biding your time until you can destroy us all. It is insane.

Buried deep beneath the fear is the (for most) subconscious knowledge that the anger is real, and justified. And buried even deeper is an awareness of deep shame and guilt about our past. It is SO unpleasant and uncomfortable! That is the most scary thing, having to confront that and really come to terms with the situation. Most white people don’t think much about race unless they’re forced to. As a result, most have never really considered what it means to inherit all the privileges of a white supremacist power system. We need to really ponder the fact that while we are not responsible for the sins of our fathers (slavery, Jim Crow, etc.), we are responsible (simply because we are alive today) for cleaning up the mess of our fathers. And resisting the efforts of those who would like to continue making a mess. But we are afraid (most of us) to do this.

That’s what white folks are afraid of.

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By Leefeller, March 29, 2008 at 12:23 pm Link to this comment

Hillary is no woman, she is Bill Clinton’s wife. 

Wright may seem a nut to you, but he makes sense to some unlike you. Comprehension may be beyond the scope of those waving the blind unquestioning flag of war and fear, a driven ignoring of uncomfortable truths.

Reality is status quo, thought of change is fear for some without even realizing it.

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By Lee, March 29, 2008 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment

Here is Pastor Wright’s ‘Black Value System’
posted at his website. This is what Barak Obama
pledged an oath to for the past 20 years:
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html

Pastor Wright gave Louis Farakan a life time
achievement award. Here is what Louis Farakan believes:
Posted at his own website.
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

AMERICANS JUDGE FOR YOURSELVES ...

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

Here we go with the name calling. facts to come and maybe shut you up

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By felicity, March 29, 2008 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

Yup.  When I heard it I rent my clothes and put on sackcloth with ashes. Idealist that I am, I still hang on to ‘probably.’

You’ll have to explain the ‘stuck(s)’ because they’re meaningless to me, therefore, of no substance.

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By IamIGreen, March 29, 2008 at 10:17 am Link to this comment
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While you scream about the political lynching of Barack Obama, why don’t you look at MSNBC to see the lynching of Hilliary Clinton by Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann - both white men wearing suits.  It seems to be perfectly okay to demean a woman but lets give a pass (be politically correct) to a nut like Wright.

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By Rasputin, March 29, 2008 at 10:15 am Link to this comment
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A new book by WSJ writer puts some additional perspective on the views of Rev. Wright. Slavery by Another Name details how the effects of institutionalised slavery in the U.S. lingered much longer than most people think. For an interview with the author, check this NPR link:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/talk/2008/03/slavery_by_another_name.html

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 29, 2008 at 9:10 am Link to this comment

Great post Paolo! Lots of hard facts! Nevertheless, in this sad country of ours there are large numbers of racists with split vision and immoral double standard who act like the proverbial ostriches that hide their heads in the sand!

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By Lee, March 29, 2008 at 8:37 am Link to this comment
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WHO’S THE RACIST?

Here is Pastor Wright’s ‘Black Value System’
posted at his website. This is what Barak Obama
pledged an oath to for the past 20 years:
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html

Pastor Wright gave Louis Farakan a life time
achievement award. Here is what Louis Farakan believes:
Posted at his own website.
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

AMERICANS JUDGE FOR YOURSELVES ...

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 8:00 am Link to this comment

I thought it meant he was trying o manipulate his stock in Frank Purdue Poultry,

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By jackpine savage, March 29, 2008 at 7:53 am Link to this comment

So mensa memberships come in crackerjack boxes now?

Come on, you can’t even write sentences with subjects, verbs, and objects in them…and you expect anyone to believe that you’re a genius?

Yes, some peeps are just plain stupid.  Generally, the ones who consider themselves far smarter than everyone else are the stupidest of all.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 7:50 am Link to this comment

So all the newspapers that supported Obama in the beginning are not allowed to change their stance and present all the issues? When Obama was the golden child, and all the news was good, there was no problem then? If all the praise was heaped upon Hillary or McCain, wouldn’t you want all the facts? Even if they came out after he/she had already been endorsed. Having your cake and eating it too…. these are just questions you might want to ask yourself. I think the sickness is the way you only present your side and not that of both ,right or wrong. If an upstanding community leader molested a child, wouldn’t you want to hear both sides of the story, or would you automatically run the man/woman out of town on a rail or worse send an innocent person to jail. I would hope you would want all the facts.

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By PatrickHenry, March 29, 2008 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

Carpet bombing is a tactic and Cluster bombs are a munition….not the same.

I’ll bet they were old 122mm rockets with greater range and can be set up to be launched remotely rather easily.

We’re talking about Iraqi insurgents here who would be using ex-soviet 82mm mortars at best (3000m max) and would be suseptable to counter battery fire and interception from the OP’s.

60mm are 1000m max, look it up.  It is obvious you don’t know shit about any of this.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 7:36 am Link to this comment

Carpet Bombs and Cluster Bombs are the same, Both used to cover an entire area at once. it’s a definition. PatrickHenry ,why don’t you fill us in with your experience with munitions. I “think” it was you that gave out wrong info on mortars also. IE: 1500mt range, yes maybe the 60mm which is a platoon assult weapon hand carried, but the 81mm and the larger 120mm is mounted ,but not all the time.The ERMC is a rocket-assisted projectile that will have an effective range of over 12km. Compared to a conventional M934 bomb fired with a maximum range of 7,200 meters.

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By PatrickHenry, March 29, 2008 at 7:23 am Link to this comment

I believe Obama will hold his ground and refuse to be pinned into a corner by those attempting (DLC & DNC) to force Obama to give up Wright in order to conform to a certain stereotype.

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By PatrickHenry, March 29, 2008 at 7:16 am Link to this comment

Cluster bombs kill more indiscrimminately over time than carpet bombing does.  Its the Jewist owned zionist presses in America that “spin” and selectively cover stories regarding victims and perps.

This is why we need serious anti trust action in the media where newspapers, radio, TV and cable cannot be owned or controlled by any one race, religion or ethnicity.  There would be alot of out of work jews.

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By Paolo, March 29, 2008 at 6:59 am Link to this comment

It has been said that Obama should leave his church and condemn Reverend Wright personally.

Let’s hold everyone to this standard. All Lutherans should leave their church and condemn it, since Martin Luther was an anti-Semite (do a brief check on this; there is plenty of proof, including a whole book on the subject by Luther himself).

All Catholics should leave their church and condemn it, since various Catholics in history have demonstrated antisemitism. Toss in the Inquisition and the Crusades, too. Sean Hannity should be the first to condemn this awful church!

And of course, anyone going to Pat Robertson’s church or the late Jerry Falwell’s church, should leave the church and condemn it, citing such monstrous absurdities as God having created AIDS to punish gays, and having sent hurricanes to punish sinful people in New Orleans.

Oh yes. And Mormons (including Mitt Romney) must leave their church and condemn it, because their official, racist doctrine (unsubstantiated by Biblical scripture) is that the “mark of Cain” was black skin. That’s right, folks—the first murderer was a Negro! Also, native Americans are descendants of some fellow named Laman, another sinner whom God darkened several shades to differentiate him and his descendants from good, white folk. 

Can you imagine the juicy tidbits we would have gotten if video cameras had existed at the time of Brigham Young? Or Torquemada? Or Luther?

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By Leefeller, March 29, 2008 at 6:40 am Link to this comment

Blunt truths are very uncomfortable to stomach and even harder to accept.  Reverend Wrights comments were blunt truths, taken out of context and presented as his one and only point of view.  Selected sound bites giving us the impression these were regularly stated by him. Every sermon, his constant hammering, this string of insightful unpleasant real and unreal comments.  Depending on how the perceiver prefers to receive them.

Hearing Wrights comments and how he presented them in his sermons,  I find most of his comments accurate and on the money.  Wright’s descriptions the real truths of real problems, his focusing on wrongs instituted by this country of ours, may not have been so important except for the fact that Wright is black and he is connected to a political figure. 

Attacks on Wright’s comments do not comment on his suggested points, they attack his comments only because they are presented by a black man, the perfect tool as political fodder, for supporting divisive and continued division of the people of our nation. 

Wright’s comments are only controversial,  because they have been taken out of context and presented as small selected sound-bites produced over a long period of time.  Look what Letterman and others do with Bush sound-bites every evening.

Mass media focusing on these selected Wright comments, makes the controversy great material,  and the perfect recipe for Bigots to develop and support their hateful agenda stew.  Smacking their divisive lips with glee, oh!  when such a morsel as Wright comes along to chew on, a great feast for racists.  Wright’s comments used and reused over and over again, shows the sickness that is U.S. 

People who do not understand the true history of racism, many still believe blacks should sit in the back of the bus.  Bigots falling all over themselves to keep Wright’s comments in our faces, the sadness is in the ignorance.
So far the only thing missing from their self congratulating lips is the N. word.

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By lib in texas, March 29, 2008 at 6:01 am Link to this comment

Please tell us what that means exactly !!!!!!!!!!

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 4:26 am Link to this comment

You are a Moron, carpet bombs were not used in Lebanon, Show 1 picture or one story or news clip where a Hospital Redcross or Ambulance was targeted. Just 1. It’s the Red Crescent not the Red Cross,I think. But it is easy to show images of the hundreds of women and children blown up by Palestinians. The Hood that was scary, torture maybe a little, mass murder,your right Muslims have been mass murdering Muslims for centuries

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By Dave in Big Pine, March 29, 2008 at 2:54 am Link to this comment

Hey mensa member!

Glad to see you’re out of rehab!

Too bad there is no cure for stupid.

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 12:32 am Link to this comment

Amen Purplewolf!!

(well, sorry about the “Amen” since we’re both from the same ‘non-religion’. wink )

Still, you know what I mean.

Excellent post. I very much appreciate it, as I’m sure many other readers (most) do.

The integrity, strength of character, and committment to humanity - and NATURE- of which humanity is a part..is good enough ‘religion’ for me.

I’m so DELIGHTED to be in such esteemed company as most of us here.

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By cyrena, March 28, 2008 at 11:36 pm Link to this comment

•  “…But based on the Jim Crow laws, which inspired Hitler’s Nuremberg laws and which says that when a person has at least one eighth blood of an “undesirable” minority, that person is that minority.”

Thanks Blacksphere, for pointing this out. I’ve done the very same, (on numerous occasions) right here on Truthdig. My only response has been from Douglas Chalmers in the form of a very personal attack, accusing me of having a ‘sick twisted LEGAL mind’ (he has issues with anyone connected to the profession or any of it’s ‘subsidiaries’…like scholars or academics in general) as well as an accusation that I have a ‘slave mentality’ myself!

Yep…the really dysfunctional do show themselves on this site. (no doubt others as well.) And, after over a year of attempts to digest the many irrational posts by this same person, it’s come to light that he has some serious issues with ‘race’ himself. I suspect he’s suffered some sort of psychological trauma as a bi/multi racial product himself.

Now that doesn’t explain his hatred for all things legal, but it’s probably ‘connected’ to the racial issues he has.

Anyway, just said all of that to thank you for repeating this reality. Until we, as Americans of ALL races and classes, finally learn the truth and ACKNOWLEDGE the truth of US history, we will never understand HOW things have come to this, and we will not be able to heal.

That’s my argument for the validity of Truth and Reconciliation procedures. There have been many of these in other nations that have been tormented by fascist and totalitarian regimes. Some have been helpful, and others have been less so. But one thing that has come from them, is that while the general goals at the onset of these various commissions has been to obtain both TRUTH and JUSTICE, the ‘justice’ part of it isn’t always so readily attainable, but in the end, it has been the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of the truth, out loud and formally, that has been most important.

At least that has been the overall discovery as related in the excellent work by Lawrence Weschler, “A Miracle, A Universe: Settling Accounts with Torturers”. The participants at the Aspen Institute conference began to realize that “..the same two imperatives seemed to rise to the fore” (of their goal discussions) – “the intertwined demands for justice and for truth.”

He goes on to relate that “often, everyone knows who the tortures were, and what they did, and the torturers know that everyone knows, and everyone knows that they know. Why then, this need to risk everything to render that knowledge explict?”

And then Thomas Nagel hit on it, “It’s the difference between knowledge and ACknowlegment. It’s what happens and can only happen to knowledge when it becomes officially sanctioned, when it is made part of the PUBLIC COGNITIVE scene.” (emphasis mine). THAT is the “transformation.”

This was of course a Truth and Reconciliation panel for victims of torture and other atrocities perpetuated in Latin American nations. So, they DID ‘know’. And yet to have it FORMERALLY ACKNOWLEDGED, made all of the difference in the world.

I think that we have a much longer and probably far more difficult task here at home, because it’s been two and a half centuries, and far too many of us DON’T know, and clearly there has been no acknowledgement.

So for now, I guess I’d be happy if we could just all begin to gain a true knowledge of our American history. It means first UNDOING so much incorrect information, before we can learn the real deal.

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By Lee, March 28, 2008 at 11:03 pm Link to this comment
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Hillary detractors say that she has a sense of entitlement in regards to becoming the President of the United States. However, if you listen to Obama, Wright and their other spokespeople, they project the attitude that due to past mistreatment of Afro-Americans, America owes Obama the Presidency, not matter what. Furthermore, Hillary detractors claim that if she swings the super delegates to her side, she would be ‘stealing’ the election. However, Obama associates actively blocked a reelection in Michigan ... and, everyone knows that if the American people knew about Obama’s close relationship with anti-American, racist, Pastor Wright a year ago, Obama surely would not be ahead in the popular vote, or the delegates ... in fact, he probably wouldn’t even still be in the race. In addition, Obama supporters labeled numerous inquiries and challenges as acts of racism, accusing the white voters of not understanding the black church, or the black community. However, if you look at the polls and the statistics, nearly every black person in American is voting for Obama because he is black. So, as it turns out, race is a dominant factor in this election ... even though Obama claims to be the candidate who is above race, and who will unify the nation.

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By guntotinganglion, March 28, 2008 at 9:46 pm Link to this comment
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Americans need to grow up. To demonize a man who has criticized this country is wrong. Criticism is the basis of a free society. And when that criticism is based in truth, that makes it doubly wrong. I have heard nothing by Rev. Wright that was untrue. I have heard things that will bruise the tender sensibilities of people who believe in fantasy America, rather than real America.

Simply put, a great deal of this shit began in 1953 with the first overthrow of a sovereign nation by the United States. That would be Iran, and Operation Ajax, which was a CIA planned coup de etat against Mossadegh, the democratically elected prime minister of Iran, who had, in 1951, been named Time magazine’s man of the year, chosen over Dean Acheson, President Dwight D. Eisenhower and General Douglas MacArthur.

And Eisenhower was the responsible party, since Truman had refused to sign the orders for the coup when they came across his desk. This illegal and reprehensible act, was the first of a long string of violent overthrows by the United States, of governments that didn’t fall in line with American corporate interests (for profiting off of other countries natural resources).

Of course, Iran was unique, in that the reason for the coup was to protect BRITISH corporate interests in Iran. Britain’s economy was TOTALLY dependent on Iranian oil…among it’s far flung imperialist holdings at that time, Iran was the only one that provided them with oil to run everything in British society. The Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) had been screwing the Iranians for decades, taking massive profits from Iranian oil, and giving that country a pittance…a country that had rampant poverty. Mossadegh was overthrown to maintain British control over Iranian oil fields, with the operation being carried out by the CIA.

This event, set the stage for the rest of the century. Iranians never forgot the betrayal by the United States, which claimed to support democracy, while it actively destroyed it in Iran. Blow-back started there, and in Guatemala, Vietnam, Chile, Panama…many countries that didn’t cooperate with US corporate interests, and Rev. Wright’s comments in this regard are right on. EVERYTHING I have heard him say has been about truthful criticism of a country that has had massive potential for good, but since WW2 has failed at every turn to achieve that potential.

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By Blaine, March 28, 2008 at 9:03 pm Link to this comment
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She said she dodged sniper fire while exiting the plane. If your too moronic to read what she said, thats your problem buddy. And how is that not lying? If the air strip WERE under fire before the plane landed the pilot wouldn’t have been able to land. That’s standard protocol (Something the pilot of the plane even said). And if they landed BEFORE sniper fire started breaking out, she wouldn’t have been allowed off the plane. That’s also standard protocol. So, she didn’t “embellish” her story, I’m sorry… She flat out lied… That would be akin to me saying I got into a fight and killed a man when we had just gotten into a small verbal spat and left it at that. Would that be “embellishing?”

Letting Hillary “fairly” compete? LOL. She isn’t fairly competing now? Michigan legislatures voted no. Not Obama. You have a problem with that take it up with them. But the rules are the rules… Hillary knew that going in. So why didn’t she raise hell about Michigan and Florida at the beginning of the campaign? She only started making a scene because she’s losing now and suddenly wants “every vote to count” when at the beginning of this campaign she didn’t give a rat. Do you think she’d be making a stink about it if she were in the lead? I seriously doubt. And I doubt you would be either.

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By Russ, March 28, 2008 at 9:00 pm Link to this comment
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The Rev.Wright has every right to call the US racist,
as he,as well as million other black people,sure know
best. Damned,this country has a history as being racist…...every child knows that!
Of course,it is alot easier,by those very same racist, to attack “yet another black person for speaking the truth “,because these very same hate-mongers would not dare to attack ” the jews ” on that very same basis.
And speaking of the jews,where are they in such a moment?Rather than seeing this as a prime opportunity of speaking out and against those hateful forces,they
do not care about anyone else..except for themselves.
Also,given that Rev. Wright happens to on the side of
Barrack Obama,running for President…so anything,
even the lie Obama is such a ” bad Muslim “,will help
them to keep alive the fear-mongering these very same
people nourish and support…not to elect Obama.

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By Zachary, March 28, 2008 at 8:05 pm Link to this comment
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Patriotism? Why is it unpatriotic to criticize in an attempt to improve America? I think it is unpatriotic to let your country continue on a path of ruin. You can be the most loving parent and yet still scold your child for misbehavior because it is your duty. It is a patriot’s duty to scold America’s leaders and policies when they ignore the true interests of the people.

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By rtl3, March 28, 2008 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment

um, Bravo.

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By rtl3, March 28, 2008 at 6:29 pm Link to this comment

OMG you’re killing me. LOL. That was awesome. I’ve been scanning the anti-Obama tirades and yes it’s thorough wash of moronic spew. They have nothing besides their fear of change and their desire to maintain the image of the western world which is that of The Great White (paternalistic) Hunter/Leader.

Oh the fear, the stupidity-then again, that’s what got Dubya into the White House. I hope the fear-filled empty heads don’t prevail again. Unfortunately they are legion.

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By Muscleboy, March 28, 2008 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment

It also amazes me how it’s ok to call those people “Islamists” when the Bush administration or others want to paint as violent Muslims.  Take John McCain’s frequent use of the world Islamofacist.  What if someone called Olmert a Jewist, I mean after all he did carpet bomb mostly all of Lebanon and mostly civilian targets at that, including specifically targeting ambulances and Redcross vehicles and hospital buildings.  Boy if we said,” well we’re only talking about the bad violent Jews.” There would be an explosion especially from the Zionist community.  But yet some how it is ok to hood, torture and mass-murder Muslims.  It’s ok to defile their religion by calling them Islamists or Islamofascists or defile their holy profit in a cartoon. 

I mean calling Muslims violent in a world where we commit such Hitlerian atrocities against them with very very little in retaliation by them is completely ridiculous.

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By Purple Girl, March 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment

This BS is ‘Pimped Out’ through the media.
anyone who has read a History book and reflected KNOWS terrible things have been done while Our Flag Flew above.
to deny it is to allow such things to happen again. Loved th ePost regarding ‘Boom’ - ‘If we ignore it , It will go away or it doesn’t exist’
I’ve heard Plenty of Vile disgusting crap come out of the White ‘Holy Rollers’ They have no conscience, no Shame!
I found a Rev. Manning from NY (Utube?)What a Nasty MF’er- He offended me on so many levels- I almost hit my Monitor! Oh and He loves Bill -so therefore his congregation MUST vote for the little Woman. He had nothing to use for HER Accomplishments- but Hey woman are Only as good as their Men - Ass!
I want more footage of every Whacked our Relgious Crazy Mac & Hillary have in their ‘Arsenal’.

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By jimmyjam, March 28, 2008 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment

I am sorry, it,s a ten million dollar house on a private country club. I wonder if the common church goer can get in there. Gated County Club.

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By jimmyjam, March 28, 2008 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment

But look at all the poor people he helped, And the tem million house he is building less than a mile from me,not to worry ,paid for by the church, ...must be nice.

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By jimmyjam, March 28, 2008 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment

They will kick you, if you get accused of being a racist. And the accuser can pretty much say anything they want.

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By cyrena, March 28, 2008 at 2:00 pm Link to this comment

From the MENSA MEMBER?

““Paolo, does “Chickens come home to roost” and the fact that Obama mentions that on the campaign trail he has eaten a lot of chicken dinners mean anything ??????? “

Here’s what it means mensa member, (you give the organization a REALLY bad name).
It means that Obama has eaten a lot of chicken dinners. (THAT’S WHAT HE SAID) I suspect he’s eaten LOTS of CHICKEN DINNERS over his entire life time. MILLIONS of humans throughout the world have consumed CHICKEN DINNERS over their life times. Not just black ones either.

So, that’s what I think it ‘MEANS’, when Obama says (on the campaign trail or anyplace else), that he’s eaten A LOT OF CHICKEN DINNERS! Now, if you want to add a ‘twist’ to that, (in connection with the campaign trail) you might consider that at political events, (among millions of other similar events that provide catering to large gatherings), CHICKEN is USUALLY ON THE MENU!! Now at the really ‘fancy’ ones, there might be a CHOICE of entrees..say, fish, beef, and/or chicken. But, when there ISN’T a choice, it’s usually CHICKEN!! Chicken is always in there somewhere.

You ARE a moron mensa member.

Now, do you want to know what ‘chickens come home to roost means”? Well, David Sirota makes that real clear as well. He explains without confusion at all, (because most English speakers are familiar with this adage of ‘chickens come home to roost’) that even the US government has acknowledged that 9/11 was a form of ‘blowback’ or ‘retaliation’ if you will. See, he says it right here:

“…berated Wright for saying the 9/11 attacks were “chickens coming home to roost.” Krauthammer labeled the pronouncement “vitriolic divisiveness” despite our government acknowledging the concept of “blowback”—or retaliation—that Wright was referencing. The CIA knows that when it supports foreign dictatorships, there can be blowback from radicals. While blowback is often immoral and undeserved, its existence is undisputed..”

Blowback, retaliation, (immoral and undeserved though it may SOMETIMES be) is the same as ‘chickens come home to roost’)

Meantime, when Obama says that he’s eaten a lot of chicken dinners, it means that, HE’S EATEN A LOT OF CHICKEN DINNERS!

MORON MENSA!

Yes. Some peeps ARE really stupid!

The ‘less’ stupid ones will stay remain silent, and allow their lack of intelligence to remain a possible ‘assumption’. The REALLY STUPID ones will open their mouths and say something, (or in your case write something) and thereby provide the PROOF of their incredible stupidity.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 28, 2008 at 1:45 pm Link to this comment

Obviously you are the ultimate bloody racist! How do you like that?!

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By Blackspeare, March 28, 2008 at 1:41 pm Link to this comment

Much is being made of BHO’s genetic make-up.  But based on the Jim Crow laws, which inspired Hitler’s Nuremberg laws and which says that when a person has at least one eighth blood of an “undesirable” minority, that person is that minority.  So BHO is Black regardless of his parentage! Of course one would ask why doesn’t one eighth blood of a desirable trait make that person such——well it just doesn’t work that way!

As for the right Reverend Wright, lets give him some slack.  When he said, “G-D America, he was referring to the past history of the US where the US supported dicatatorial regimes since 1945 because of the US’s neurotic and paranoidal view of socialism.  Much damage was done to many people because of those policies and it continues into Iraq.  As bad as Saddam Hussein was, the US has done more killing than Hussein ever did, but then again when you die for “democracy” you die well!

Oh, by the way if you’re looking for explanation for the current mess——follow the money!

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 28, 2008 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment

Yes, David Sirota, Wright is right about racism, and your well-documented piece is a prove of that. And the best part of your piece, as I see it, is your bringing up the hypocrisy, split vision and double standards when comparing what fanatic Robertson and Hagee, for example, have been saying, without much reaction or condemnation, to what Rev. Jeremiah Wright said, with the exaggerated overreaction to his words, which he only took from the Bible that Christians believe it’s the word of God.

As an aside, I am really surprised how a nation whose majority population are Christians, whether practicing or not, resent someone reminding them that a loving God (or nature) can also be a God (or nature) of retribution or consequences when major sins, like lynching, mass killing of people in wars, slavery, nuclear-bombing of Hiroshima, Afghanistan and lately Iraq are committed.  The retribution for wide-spread evil is all in the Old Testament, as well as is in all monotheistic religions. So, in fact, Rev. Wright did not bring anything new we didn’t know about before.

In fact, the concept of a God of Retribution is even older than the history of monotheistic religions. It originated among the ancient Greeks to whom we owe our imperfect democracy. Thus the Greeks believed in NEMESIS, the goddess or retribution, who punishes human transgression of the natural, right order of things and the arrogance that causes it. This is why the secular enlightened writer Chalmers Johnson entitled his excellent book, “NEMISIS: THE LAST DAYS OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC;” one of the best books I read lately.

And since I am at it, let me play the advocate of a god of retribution for the evils we did in the Iraqi ongoing 5-years old war. In Iraq, we met a presumed and fictionalized enemy, but it turned out to be that the enemy is us, with our so-called Commander-in-Chief, sitting cowardly in the artificial security of the White House, while sending young Americans and spending precious American treasury, to kill and destroy and to be killed and destroyed. And only a naive person would think that all this can happen without consequences. If we need to speak about the worsening economic situation in our country, we must, by necessity, connect it to the war in Iraq; otherwise we all will be hypocrites, with split vision, and we are not better than the proverbial ostriches which bury their heads in the sand!

Thank you Rev. Jeremiah Wright for reminding us about some very important, though inconvenient truths! If there is a hope left for this country, it will come only through facing the ugly truths and making amends to right the wrongs. The truths and only the truths will have the power of liberating us from the ugly past and give us a hope to be reformed.

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By lib in texas, March 28, 2008 at 1:28 pm Link to this comment

Well, Felicity, that is exactly what he is now saying
If Wright hadn’t retired he probably would have left the church.  SO O O now what is your attitude.
What are you coming up with this pimping thing again are you stuck in the past or stuck under a rock !!!!!

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

Chris how can you be so sure of Obama’s beliefs? Do you believe what he says in political expedience or what he chooses to do of his own free will every Sunday for 20 years. Even if I made $990,000 last year I would think long and had writing a $20,500 check to support a pastor who’s sermons “can, you know, get a little rough”.

Wake up! Step away from the Kool-Aid. Save the party.

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By Marshall K, March 28, 2008 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment

You can’t be president in this country without the right bible thumper behind you.  Jesus is magic!  AIDS was invented to kill blacks and gays!  The world was created in six days!  It’s all a bunch of
superstitious mumbo jumbo.  What’s a good agnostic supposed to do come election time, with all these superstitious, idol worshiping religious nuts trying to win my vote? I guess I’ll just ignore their stupid religious ways and vote for a good person.

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By purplewolf, March 28, 2008 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

For the statement that Obama is black. Well that’s not totally true. He is half black, his mother is white. It would seem that along with all the religious hoop-la, that skin color is a requirement for the position of president, it shouldn’t be. Isn’t it about time to look beyond the religion and the color a person is and rather the kind of person someone is. I would rather have an honest person running the country over one who stoops to new levels of “lowness” to obtain a goal by manipulating information, twisting the facts and out right lying. At the end of this over long presidential campaign, who do you want for president. Someone concerned with Americas problems or one who is obsessed with war continuation. Whether a person is Christian or not. And for some of you this may come as a surprise, Christianity is over-rated. Just because you claim to be Christian does not automatically make you a “good person”. Some of the most evil, vile people walking the face of the earth are devote Christians. After all their God will forgive them ANYTHING they do that may be considered a sin, just ask them.

There is too much judging on the wrong things and not enough information about what should be the real concerns about running America, so it’s time to stop all the in fighting over non-issues and get down to business. Judging someone using the opinions and words used by another person says about any topic is a poor way to determine that person. Most everyone in the world would be judged harshly, no doubt, if that standard were applied to every other person on the planet. It’s like a relative of yours saying something you may not like or disagree with, it doesn’t mean you throw them under the bus. You accept them for what they are, in most cases anyway. To totally separate yourself from that person so others may accept you more, shows lack of character on your part and sshnows the world you are a “suck up”. It takes a person with integrity to stand by another person against what other people who feel they shouldn’t.

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 10:11 am Link to this comment

Just as I suspected. You’re a coward as well as a Nazi jerkoff Obama tool.

Just another case of drive-by race-baiting.

I bet your momma is so proud of how gud you rite.

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By felicity, March 28, 2008 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

It would have surprised me if Obama had denounced Wright the man - not merely some of what he had said - and left the church.

Much of Obama’s campaign speak has focused on ‘reaching across the aisle,’ negotiating with the ‘enemy,’ inclusiveness vs exclusiveness…

If MSNBC’s Shuster had said that Michelle Obama was out pimping for her husband, would Obama have fired off a letter demanding that the network fire Shuster?  Don’t think so.  But Hillary did just that when Shuster applied the term to Chelsea.

Herein lies one of the fundamental differences between the Hillary and Obama approaches to governance.  I think, in the end, Obama’s approach gets better results.

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By Chris in IL, March 28, 2008 at 9:21 am Link to this comment
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I don’t think your analogies hold water.
Obama does not belong to a “Blacks Only” organization, and you can’t equate Trinity church with a country club. The church is not the equivalent of a neo-nazi sewing club either, with both african-americans and whites as members of the congregation.
Since it is clear that Obama does not believe in everything Rev. Wright has said over the years I don’t think that their “association” should have any bearing on the election.
Lastly, since Obama is a Christian, as are the other members of the church, you referring to whom they worship as garbage is uncalled for.

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By Shandooga, March 28, 2008 at 9:17 am Link to this comment
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“Since the 1960s, bigotry has undergone an aesthetic makeover. Today, the most pernicious racists do not wear pointy hoods, scream epithets and anonymously burn crosses from behind masks. They don starched suits, recite sententious bromides and stage political lynchings before television cameras.”

Actually, they do both—that’s why they need the hoods.  It’s about time someone picked up on it.

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By Lee, March 28, 2008 at 8:23 am Link to this comment
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Wright is an anti-American racist who has used christianity to further his own radical/political agenda. Obama and Wright have been joined at the hip for 20 ... yes 20 years. This is the TRUTH, and it’s despicable, no matter how much you try to blame the media for telling us about it. The reason this story simply won’t go away, is because of the weak explanations for why Obama stayed in the church for 20 years, and or never showed the courage to speak against it. This speaks volumes as to Obama’s character, values and judgement ... or, rather lack there of. Obama’s political record is lack luster. His long time associations are questionable at the very least. His qualities and abilities are self professed through his own speeches ... not based on his deeds. And yet, we are talking about electing him to the most powerful position in the world, a position which could profoundly effect the fate of mankind. It appears that the only thing worse than Obama’s poor judgement, is the poor judgement of those who support him.

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By RdV, March 28, 2008 at 8:05 am Link to this comment

This is a common suspicion in the African-American community AND the gay community as well.

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By Jack, March 28, 2008 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
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There are white people who are members of Obama’s church.  PLEASE READ/LISTEN to the full unedited text and tell me which statement is racist or hateful. I could not find one. The church is in a Black community and seeks to assist those who need help in that community.
What is wrong with that??? They offer info on Holocaust education workshops , help for sentiors , tutorials for kids, a prison ministry etc.  The Black church in modern times is huge!!!  It works to help the black community instead of asking for gov’t help.

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By AnAmericaninGermany, March 28, 2008 at 7:43 am Link to this comment

It’s hard to find the words to describe how sick this all makes me. The single minded way that many in both the American media and society at large will manipulate truth and distort history and reality to get what they want is a cancer on whatever good America once stood for.

As a 39 year old male who grew up in Philadelphia and Orlando it amazes me that anyone could deny the racial inequality that permeates American life… even with Affirmative Action. 

My parents, who are very good people -yet also products of their time- moved our family to avoid bussing their children from the comfy white suburb to schools in racially mixed areas.  At the same time they would tell us that all people were equal and that we children should only make assessments based on individual character of people we met.  Mixed signals? 

My outspoken aunt who uttered the N word and the equally offensive word for Latinos beginning with S was often told not to say things like that around the children, yet I remember having an argument with my father about his statement that he would disown any son of his who had a black girlfriend (makes me wonder what he would think of my German boyfriend were he still alive.)  Mixed signals?

The thing is… my parents are/were typical Americans.  They were educated, well liked, nice, church going people who also would tell us that racism… or any icm was wrong, yet in their upwardly mobile world, there were no people of color.  Mixed signals?

In Orlando I went to Lake Brantley High School which prided itself on being 97% caucasion and the 3% “others” were of course doctors and lawyers or professional families.  You would be hard pressed to find anyone from my school at that time who would have publically condoned racist statements.  Yet weren’t we symbolic of a new type of racism?  Nice white people who said the words “colored” or “African American” or “Latino” to show their politically correct morality… but kept property taxes high and the less desirables out.  It was simply a new kind of racism… practiced quietly… but nonetheless there.

I have not seen that it has disappeared since my escape and defection to Europe and to watch anyone on television of any party deny that America still had not faced its racial divide convinces me that we are not what we think or claim we are.

This is but only one of the worlds that Obama and Michelle and the Reverand Wright must co-exist in.  For anyone to deny it is a disservice to the idea of freedom, liberty, or justice.

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By Gregory Logan, March 28, 2008 at 7:32 am Link to this comment
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I was wondering how those whites who oppose Obama were going to make his race an issue. Now we know-they’re going to accuse him of reverse racism. Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of the history of the treatment that some whites visited upon blacks in this country, should not be surprised that some blacks are going to be angry.

What I can’t understand is why, after everything that has happened and is happening, we blacks are expected to reassure whites that we mean them no harm? We ought to be scared of you! We’re outnumbered by a substantial percentage, and whites control all of the guns, money, and food. What are whites so afraid of? A minister making a speech?

I don’t believe that the tactic will work, because working class people of all races are so disgusted with Republican policies and the state of the economy that they want someone who can improve things, regardless of that person’s race or gender.

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By RdV, March 28, 2008 at 7:28 am Link to this comment

nt

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 7:27 am Link to this comment

Bring it on Leefeller. Prove I am a racist. I’m sure I will find the revealation insightful. If you prove your case I’ll offer myself up to the proper authorities for re-training. I’m sure you can make a good recommendation.

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By Leefeller, March 28, 2008 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

Yes, me tiny flaw is I hate racism. I will read the rest of your insight later.

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 7:03 am Link to this comment

Yup. That’s me! You caught me Leefeller! I’m a big fat racist! Hey, I might suspect you’re a tool and a jerkoff, but I haven’t accused you of either on a public website, have I? Would you like to know why? Because I can safely assume that just because you write volumes of crap I don’t personally agree with I don’t rip you personally for those beliefs, do I? Now that’s a good Obamabot. You learn fast. Disagree with a strong argument you can’t win? Call the man a racist. Whether it’s some unknown guy from an obscure little state or the leader of our party, the former two-term President of the United States. All you have to do is feign offense at a remark that has no racial overtones whatsoever and as long as you can get more than one other person to agree and shout the same lie, you win.

Nope. Sorry. You’re a loser to me because you have to tear down others to achieve your goals. I suspect you to be a Nazi. You love Hitler don’t you, Leefeller? You have a shiny pair of jackboots in a closet, don’t you? Isn’t that what Hitler did? Kill all the Jews and they can never bother you again with their ‘flawed version’ of the truth. You’re no better than the Nazi party. Destroy all the non-believers before they gain a foothold and expose us.

Now I admit that Maine is one of the least racially-diverse states in the union. I am educated, reasonably well-read and have travelled west of Boston once or twice in my forty years.  Right after college I lived with an African American roommate for three years and watched my best friend in the world have to endure horrible situations because of his skin color and the ignorance of others. I personally and deeply resent your false accusation of racism and I will call you out for the liar you are.

Sure I admit I am a bit preoccupied with Rev. Wright and his effect on the presidential nomination process. Yes. I am focused on the fatal flaw of the presumptive candidate of my political party. If you were interested in medicine could you ignore a blood-gushing wound on someone you care about? How about if I pointed out a small, growing fire in the corner of a movie theater? If I pointed that out to the audience by screaming, “FIRE!!!” would you call me a pyromaniac too?

Holy crap! I’m only trying to point out the FACT that it doesn’t matter what Obama really believes because he was caught associating with a man who preaches CRAZY TALK!!! Hello! Are you even a little concerned that the Obama Express is rolling on down the tracks and come November we all get to discover that the BRIDGE IS OUT!!!!

It was bad enough to me that the Dreamcatchers and Rainbows Wing of the party was rushing to nominate a one-third of one-term freshman senator who voted for Cheney’s energy plan and possesses exactly zero foreign policy experience. Now you’re all in a huff to nominate that same noobie who the Right-Wing Nutjobs are getting ready to hang a 500lb anti-American anchor on. You really think that duck’s gonna swim?

Look Leefeller. It doesn’t matter what color I am or what color Obama is. His wife is going to be stamped as a radical black separatist and Obama is going to be branded Anti-American in an election fight against McCain the All-American Hero. We LOSE!!!

Aren’t you at least a little nervous to throw Obama out there in the dangerous political waters this fall? If this was a monster movie instead of a presidential campaign the ship’s captain would be asking, “Obama goes in the cage? Cage goes in the water? Shark’s in the water. Our shark? (sings) Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies…Farewell and adieu you ladies of Spain…”

Nice try you Nazi, jerkoff Obama Tool.  Wait. I apologize. You’re most likely not a Nazi.

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By Leefeller, March 28, 2008 at 6:56 am Link to this comment

Yes racist garbage, love the analogy, coming from one so enlightened as yourself, racism flows from your posts with the ease of lies from our great president.

Keep on the Wright path, it seems so important to you.

“God Bush America”

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By Sid, March 28, 2008 at 6:46 am Link to this comment
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The idea that the government would deliberately infect black people with a disease is just crazy talk, isn’t it??

The Public Health Service, working with the Tuskegee Institute, began the study in 1932. Nearly 400 poor black men with syphilis from Macon County, Ala., were enrolled in the study. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for “bad blood,” a local term used to describe several illnesses, including syphilis, anemia and fatigue.

For participating in the study, the men were given free medical exams, free meals and free burial insurance.

At the start of the study, there was no proven treatment for syphilis. But even after penicillin became a standard cure for the disease in 1947, the medicine was withheld from the men. The Tuskegee scientists wanted to continue to study how the disease spreads and kills. The experiment lasted four decades, until public health workers leaked the story to the media.

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/jul/tuskegee/

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By lib in texas, March 28, 2008 at 6:44 am Link to this comment

Nice try Kiss, a very very weak example of backing up Rev Wrights racist garbage.  There is no BECAUSE so and so may have said or done.
I see 3 or 4 blogs on truthlie about Hillarys faux pau on Bosnia (which wasn’t all that bad if you look at the film they keep showing.  It defintly was not a five star greeting) but NOTHING about the Rev Wright damnation of the Jews.  What is that??  That was even worse than the God——America !!!! No wonder Obama was trying to make nice with the Jewish community as HE KNEW WHAT WAS COMING.

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By KISS, March 28, 2008 at 6:31 am Link to this comment

And that is factual. My only concern is that Rev. Wright in his condemnation of America is allowing race to be used in place of class. Being poor, while I admit Blacks are less up the ladder than whites, their is a disdain for all people that are poor. Being poor in America is looked upon as emasculation,and yet, being rich, even by chicanery is respected. I wonder if those God-Fearing CEO’s that are losing their holdings have not uttered the words ” God Damn America” or worse? How many fine patriotic religious citizens have not uttered those words when being audited by the IRS?
With 4000, and counting, dead American soldiers and 30,000 seriously wounded we allow ourselves to get upset over this political dribble.How very sad.

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 6:18 am Link to this comment

How can you say that with a straight face? Oh yeah. You are annoymously typing it. Right.

Could I get elected for any office if I belonged to a Whites Only organization of any kind? If I paid $20,500 a year to belong to a White Country Club and refused to give up my membership or tried to explain it away by giving a 37-minute speech to explain that only a tiny percentage of the by-laws of the club are deplorable and besides my grandmother once admitted to being afraid of golfers. I’d be laughed out of the race for good reason.

Obama can deny that he shares the hateful beliefs of his 20-year spiritual advisor but it doesn’t pass the stink test to me.

Again imagine I am running for the city council. It comes out that I spent two to three hours a week, 40 weeks a year for 20 years with a neo-nazi sewing club. Could I get elected by saying I ignored the message but really enjoyed the sewing techniques I was taught. What the leader of the organization pumped into my ears and that I was willing to give him an audience is a crime unto itself.

Yes. There is a case for guilt by association here. We’re not denying Obama or anyone the right to worship, but worshiping garbage may disqualify you to be elected to the city council or Presidency of The United States in some people’s minds. That’s a fact.

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By lib in texas, March 28, 2008 at 6:18 am Link to this comment

guilt by association is just another talking point to obscure the real truths.  You think Obama is a man of strong character???  What kind of character??
To me he is a weak man that needs a racist preacher to bolster him. NOT GOOD PRESIDENTIAL QUALITY.

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By Leefeller, March 28, 2008 at 6:11 am Link to this comment

Do they have black folks in Maine?  Joe you seem to focus on Wright with the glee of a good old boy KKK party. 

When one steps back and listens to you then Wight, one of you makes more sense than the other, guess which one?

One dimensional focusing is just what it is, empty bigotry.

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 5:59 am Link to this comment

For every gram of truth about chickens and roosting there is a whooper like that the US Government has used a weapon of mass destruction on black Americans. He accused the country I love of creating AIDS as a biologial weapon to kill blacks and gays.

Humph. Guess I missed that headline in the Post when it exposed that vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy.

Oh. You mean that never happened? Humph. It’s getting harder to keep the truth and the lies apart in my mind.

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By Paolo, March 28, 2008 at 5:46 am Link to this comment

Although I don’t claim to know any more about Reverend Wright than anyone else, from what I’ve seen, he often speaks the truth. Anyone who can make Sean Hannity and Charles Krauthammer shriek can’t be all bad.

The classic “chickens coming home to roost” sermon was based on undeniable facts. Yes, the USA DID nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Yes, those atrocities DID kill many times more people than 9-11. Yes, the US DOES support Israel in its subjugation of the Palestinians in their own homeland. Yes, the US DOES intervene in the Arab/Muslim world. Yes, the “chickens” did indeed “come home to roost.”

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By heavyrunner, March 28, 2008 at 5:05 am Link to this comment

Guilt by association is rubbish. 

The thing to notice about Obama himself about this is that while the pastor said some things that caused trouble for Senator Obama, he continues to value and respect his friendship for the man who has been important in his life for many years.  To me this says that Barack Obama is a man of strong character.

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By Joe Sixpack, March 28, 2008 at 4:25 am Link to this comment

Show me where Clinton EVER used the phrase, “bullets whiz(ed)(ing) past my head.” She never said that. She did embellish the story to make the story better. You ever do that Mr. TheRealFish? Maybe about the one that got away being Thiiiiiiiiiis big (arms extended)? You’ve never done that? Clearly when a candidate you don’t prefer does that you feel they should be taken out back and shot, huh?

So why was the Michigan Legislature waiting on the phone for a decision from the Obama campaign before having to postpose the vote because their decision was NO! Clearly Obama wants to sit on the lead he has instead of risking letting Hillary fairly compete for those votes and delegates when his star was falling. You are biased sir.

How about The Fellowhip/Family. That’s been completely debunked as a FAIRY TALE! She’s a METHODIST! Are they some radical cult too?

If you think MSNBC is shilling for Hiil then can we please sit down soon to discuss some Florida swamp land I’d like to sell you? You clearly have never seen the show SoftBall with Chris “Shiver for Obama up my leg” Matthiews, or Keith “In the tank” Obhermann. Please. Get a clue.

You don’t like her. That’s OK. Listen to your master and at least try not to resort to the politics of personal destruction. Take the high road.

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By since1492, March 28, 2008 at 2:34 am Link to this comment

Of course he is right. We are a racist country and it can not be denied.
Hoa binh

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By TheRealFish, March 28, 2008 at 1:15 am Link to this comment

Hey, mensa member, I agree that whether military vet or not, everybody has freedom of speech (so far). And I also assert that Wright’s not the only church leader on today’s political stage to feel America receives Holy Blowback, as do Pat Robertson, Hagee, Parsley and many others, though their Holy Pipelines appear to carry different Diving Teachings.

Still, being a military hero doesn’t de facto make you worthy of a government job. And I think placing people in powerful positions whose thoughts may be clouded by PTSD (or homophobia [Robertson/Hagee] or religious cultism [anybody in The Fellowship, like Hillary, who believe they are given a divine mandate to change this country]) are wise choices to keep close at hand or serve in high office.

Obama has stated in no uncertain terms that he rejects that older generation thinking of bitterness and division and rightly so. I’m still waiting to hear that Hillary really doesn’t believe she is divinely positioned to change the foundation of the country (her teachings) or McCain is not now flipped (or flopped) into supporting the notion Katrina was God’s damnation on a portion of America for tolerating His gay children.

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By TheRealFish, March 28, 2008 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

Jacob: You haven’t seen many deliberate lies?

How about running on experience, turning to the audiences (and cameras) one, two, three times and “mis-speaking” that you had to duck and cover to avoid bullets whizzing past your head in Bosnia?

No single person who has ever had bullets whizzing past their heads *ever* mis-speaks on the issue. To say it happened—over and over—when it never did is fabrication.

It is lying to our faces, smiling, and saying “I must have been tired” when caught. Now THERE’s a lie for you. (“I must have been tired” is a lie; I personally know that nobody ever gets confused about being fired upon. Those things are stuck in stark and life-long detail, whether sleep deprived or woken from sweat-drenched PTSD dreams).

And how strange she turns to Fox News (HRC donor Murdoch) and a Richard Scaife newspaper (Mr. Right Wing Conspiracy, sayeth Hillary) to spew her lies, knowing they will be carried whole cloth?

Why don’t *those* particular lies get played on an endless loop on Fox or Scaife editorial pages or at MSNBC. Lies from HRC’s mouth to electorate ears, and ratings whores (MSNBC), the Enemy of the Left Fox and Mr. 04 Swiftboat-Ads Scaife, pass the Bosnia lie(s) off as a trivial fluff.

No-o-o. Nothing strange or logic defying there.

Mr. Sirota has it just exactly correct. And I’m a 55 year old, beer drinking, WASP Michigan resident grown up in right wing religious family, spent 13 years working blue collar jobs, and voted for Bill Clinton twice (her demographic, Right?).

So, I can speak to another lie with direct knowledge: That whole thing about Obama blocking the Michigan re-vote? Total BS.

Obama wants a re-vote if the slate is wiped clean, and everyone (you know, the popular voice?) can all speak. After all, since ALL candidates agreed with the DNC to disenfranchise the Michigan voting public because of a bad state party decision (Hillary pledged to not campaign because the vote would not count), many who wanted to vote for Obama voted “uncommitted,” crossed over to vote for a defeatable Republican or (as I and many, many others did) stayed home because there was nobody to vote for and because the vote didn’t count anyway.

So Hillary and her surrogates (Gov. Granholm being one of those) decided, in their great win-at-all-costs wisdom, that those who voted the last time could not vote in a re-vote. That effectively obstructs allowing those forced to make choices they did not prefer from casting the vote they want. (I get to vote, and that vote will NOT go to HRC… .)

So now she is saying “shame, shame on you Barak Obama” for “obstructing” the Michigan re-vote?

That is another lie. That’s no mis-speaking either. She is the one who wants to disenfranchise Obama supporters from EVER being able to vote for their candidate in a re-vote.

Finally, more on point of this particular post: Where is the vitriol for McCain religious leaders, Hagee and Parsley, played on endless loop in the biased MSM? Hagee, who said that God damned New Orleans (part of America, last I checked) for having a gay parade. Parsley? Well he just wants to commit genocide against all Muslims (and, believe it or don’t, but they don’t all hate us, though a third Republican administration—which Hillary says over and over is preferable to an Obama win—will continue to change all that).

And have we heard that much about HRC belonging to her religious cult, The Fellowship (that organizes in—their words—“cells,” and with whom she shares “fellowship” with the likes of Mr. Macaca, Brownback and Rick Santorum, among very many other NeoCons). Oh, yeah: They’re a sex-segregated “fellowship”?

Yes, there are plenty of lies and slander and bias to go around, but those people like MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan and almost everybody at over at Fixed Noise simply can not get enough of with whom that upstart Black Man chose to affiliate.

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