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Is Wright Right About Racism?

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Posted on Mar 27, 2008

By David Sirota

Since the 1960s, bigotry has undergone an aesthetic makeover. Today, the most pernicious racists do not wear pointy hoods, scream epithets and anonymously burn crosses from behind masks. They don starched suits, recite sententious bromides and stage political lynchings before television cameras. For proof, behold the mob stalking Barack Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

Wright has long delivered fiery (and occasionally outrageous) sermons, to little fanfare. Now, though, a gang of thugs is inflicting a guilt-by-association blow to Obama by excoriating his spiritual adviser for three specific declarations.

Sean Hannity, Fox News’ own George Wallace, turned a fire hose on Wright for his church’s focus. “[The church] is all about the black community,” Hannity thundered, claiming that means Wright supports “a black-separatist agenda.”

Pat Buchanan billy-clubbed Wright for saying, “God damn America.” The MSNBC commentator, who avoided the draft, implied that Wright, a former Marine, lacks sufficient loyalty to country. Out of context, Wright’s exclamation was admittedly offensive. But remember: It punctuated a speech about segregation. Buchanan, nonetheless, unleashed, deriding “black hustlers” and insisting descendants of those “brought from Africa in slave ships” owe whites a thank you. “Where is the gratitude?” he asked.

Fox’s Charles Krauthammer berated Wright for saying the 9/11 attacks were “chickens coming home to roost.” Krauthammer labeled the pronouncement “vitriolic divisiveness” despite our government acknowledging the concept of “blowback”—or retaliation—that Wright was referencing. The CIA knows that when it supports foreign dictatorships, there can be blowback from radicals. While blowback is often immoral and undeserved, its existence is undisputed. Yet, Krauthammer alleged that Wright takes “satisfaction in the deaths of 3,000 innocents.”

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In promoting the Wright “controversy,” most media outlets joined this mob and embraced “colorblind racism,” says Duke University’s Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, author of “Racism Without Racists.”

It is polite pinstriped prejudice shrouding bigotry in feigned outrage against extremism—the operative word being feigned. After all, John McCain solicited the endorsement of John Hagee, the pastor who called the Catholic Church “the Great Whore.” Similarly, according to Mother Jones magazine, Hillary Clinton belongs to the “Fellowship,” a secretive group “dedicated to ‘spiritual war’ on behalf of Christ.” She is also friendly with Billy Graham, the minister caught on tape spewing anti-Semitism. But while Wright’s supposed “extremism” blankets the news, McCain and Clinton’s relationships with real extremists receive scant attention.

Why is it “controversial” for one pastor to address the black community, racism and blowback, but OK for another pastor to slander an entire religion? Why is it news that one candidate knows a sometimes-impolitic clergyman, but not news that his opponent associates with an anti-Semite? Does the double standard prove the dominant culture despises a black man confronting taboos but accepts whites spewing hate? Does the very reaction to Wright show he’s right about racism?

Clinton seems to think so. Her aides have been describing as their political “firewall”  the states they believe Obama will lose. That’s campaign-speak for “race wall”—one built with bricks like Pennsylvania and Indiana. These aren’t the near purely white states where racial politics is often muted (and Obama won). They are the slightly diverse states where racial politics simmers and where the black vote is too small to offset a motivated racist vote. This race wall is now being fortified.

ABC News reports that Clinton’s campaign is “pushing the Wright story” ahead of the Pennsylvania and Indiana primaries. The crass tactic is designed to motivate the racist vote by reminding whites of Obama’s connection to the African-American community. Put another way, Clinton’s message has become simply: Obama Is black.

Wright probably expected this brouhaha. He says our government is “controlled by rich white people” and our culture afflicted by racism. Though these statements are also deemed distasteful by the Establishment, they are truisms. You can see their veracity in the collected portraits of white millionaires commonly called the congressional photo directory. Or, just turn on your television and watch the mob continue stoking the Wright “controversy.”

David Sirota is a best-selling author whose newest book, “The Uprising,” will be released in June. He is a fellow at the Campaign for America’s Future and a board member of the Progressive States Network, both nonpartisan organizations. His blog is at www.credoaction.com/sirota.

© 2008 Creators Syndicate Inc.


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By Rob Adcox, March 29, 2010 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment
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Should I feel powerless and guilty for being American? If you think I should, then you’ll be disappointed to hear that I’m not.

As for those who feel the need to write prolifically about those “evil white men and their racism”, please keep in mind discordant information. Obama was elected by those who felt that voting for McCain was the promotion of racism. We all heard the shrill voices twelling us, “if you don’t vote for Obama then you’re a racist”.

What garbage! When the left has to resort to emotional manipulation and intimidation tactics, then it has clearly lost the argument. I voted for McCain and, apparently, I was in the right to do so. Obama thus far has proved himself utterly incompetent. After coutless broken campaign promises, after the assaults on the US Constitution, after the ACORN scandal, and after the arrogance of the man and his party, we see nothing more than power-hungry liberals who, using Saul Alinsky-style tactics, stop at nothing to seize power from large corporations, small businesses, and you and I. The 10th Amendment is in jeopardy regarding “healthcare”. One can argue that the 13th is also in trouble. Ironic, considering.

Requiring the citizenry of the US to have health insurance in fact violates both the 10th and 13th Amendments, but hey. What’s a little thing like the US Constitution when you’re so wealthy and powerful that you can run up a $100,000 booze bill on the taxpayers’ dime like Pelosi did?

And this is what you voted for because YOU wanted CHANGE.

Well, here’s a flash for you: 55% of the American voting public opposed the healthcare legislation signed into law by Obama. 14 states have filed suit against the federal government over it, and 38 states are opposed to “Obamacare” -and that number is growing.

Under the liberals’ plan for health insurance (yet another industry being seized illegally by the Democrats), preexisting conditions will have to be met. That, of course, is something which will destroy the profit margin of the insurance industry, which is what the Democrats want to happen. Then, when the industry collapses the Dems will have control over 18% of the entire economy.

The government can’t even turn a profit with Amtrack. And I’m supposed to put my faith in that same government with my life?

Please. Healthcare rationing is going to be a reality in a few years. It occurs wherever there aren’t enough doctors to cover everyone’s needs. That means people who are sick will have to become sicker before they can be seen. People are going to die because of the incompetence and utter stupidity of healthcare legislation peened by the liberals.

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By Libertine Liberal, August 31, 2008 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
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Wright should be worshipped as a sage. Anyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist. No room for discussion. You better vote for Obama or else you hate African Americans. Why? Because Lord Wright says so, and that’s all YOU need to know. Any politician with a “D” next to his name is automatically a “good” leader.

Don’t think. Just do as Lord God Wright commands you to do.

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By PatrickHenry, July 15, 2008 at 2:41 am Link to this comment

re: Rob Adcox, July 14 at 8:32 pm #

Unfortunately, he will get the most votes and is head and shoulders above McCain.

Ron Paul who make the most effective president.

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By Rob Adcox, July 14, 2008 at 9:32 pm Link to this comment
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I think Obama isn’t cut out to be President. I think he’s someone whose judgement is questionable at best. A person who surrounds himself with the likes of Wright and Ayers while seeking the Presidency is a moron. Most American voters want someone whose judgement reflects better than Obama’s.

Okay, Will. Now here’s your opportunity to brand me a “racist” simply because I don’t think Obama is qualified to serve as President. Of course, you will only retard your case by trying to police my thoughts. And you will lose.

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By Will, April 27, 2008 at 9:20 pm Link to this comment
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You speak the truth.  I keep hoping that mainstream media will finally (but before its too late) reveal “the emperor’s new clothes,” i.e. attacks on Wright, pandering to the “uneducated blue-collar whites,” to be what it is:  pure, simple, obvious racism.

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By jimmyjam, April 7, 2008 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment

How soon we forget when it one of our own.
Robert Carlyle Byrd (born November 20, 1917) is the senior United States Senator from West Virginia and a member of the Democratic Party. Byrd has held the office since January 3, 1959; he is the longest-serving member in the history of the Senate. He is also the longest-serving—and oldest—current member of the United States Congress.

Byrd is President pro tempore of the United States Senate of the 110th United States Congress, a position that puts him third in line of presidential succession, behind Vice President Dick Cheney and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. He also held this post previously from 1989–1995, briefly in January 2001, and from June 2001 – January 2003.

He also previously held many leadership positions: Senate Conference Secretary, Majority Whip and twice Majority Leader. He is the only former majority leader currently in the Senate.


Participation in the Ku Klux Klan
In 1942, 24-year-old Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), whose parades in Matoaka, West Virginia, he had witnessed in his childhood. He was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter.[4]

Byrd, in his autobiography, attributed the beginnings of his political career to this incident, although he lamented that they involved the Klan. According to Byrd’s recollection, KKK official Joel L. Baskin told him “You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation.” Byrd recalls that “suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities. I was only 23 or 24, and the thought of a political career had never struck me. But strike me that night, it did.”[4] He participated in the KKK during World War II, holding the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops. He did not serve in the military during the war, working instead as a welder in a Baltimore, Maryland shipyard, where he helped build warships.[citation needed]

Byrd commented on the 1945 controversy about racially integrating the military. Byrd, when he was 28 years old, wrote to segregationist Senator Theodore Bilbo, of Mississippi, vowing never to serve in such a military:

Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.[5]
He had earlier written Bilbo “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side”.
From Wikipedia

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By Conservative Yankee, April 7, 2008 at 5:45 am Link to this comment
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BUT Bill’s far too fat… maybe 200 hundred before his heart attack!

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By cyrena, April 6, 2008 at 7:52 pm Link to this comment

Oh Conservative Yankee,

This made my day!!

“...Even Magic Johnson can’t fuck that many women worldwide and he has a plane!”

I can’t stop laughing.

Now, what about Bill Clinton? Do you think HE could do this?

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By Fadel Abdallah, April 6, 2008 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment

Of course, Rev. J. Wright was right about racism all the way. Meanwhile, all the white bigots and racists were wrong all the way.

Rev. Wright was ahead of his time in seeing the truth and talking about it, whereas the racists were far beyond the times in discovering their disease and accepting to be treated. The distance between Rev. Wright and the racists is like the distance between one seeing the present and future through the past and ones still living in the medieval mentality of the distant past without recognizing the progression of times.

In light of this, the racists are the ones that should be under attack, not the warrior fighting racism.

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By bert, April 6, 2008 at 5:56 pm Link to this comment

Sorry CY. It is Spencer Wells. (His full name is listed a few posts down and I did include it and book title in first post.)

But I am happy to provide again. If you get any of these I would be interested in what you think.

Both are probably availabe at the library too.

I have included links to both the book and the DVD.

Happy reading and/or viewing.

BOOK:

http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Man-Genetic-Odyssey/dp/0812971469


DVD

http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-journey-of-man-dvd—pi-1402989.html

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By jack, April 6, 2008 at 9:34 am Link to this comment
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See the Discovery Channel website/internet search for info on the research for the documentary “The Real Eve”  It is a documentary done a bit like a feature film which traces the entire human race to 3 women who lived in Africa thousands of years ago.
It is one of the best works done on the subject.

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By Conservative Yankee, April 5, 2008 at 7:06 am Link to this comment
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You are speaking of the “Reverend Jonathon Wells PHD?”

You just refer to him as “Wells” so he’s hard to research.

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By bert, April 4, 2008 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

<<<<<<  It is physically impossible for “ALL humans” to be “... >>>>>>>

Well get the book or watch the video and see for yourself. He actually traces, with DNA evidence, how humans left this one tribe and migrated all over the earth. And it did not take that long. It happened faster than nost people believed possible. But he shows how it did.

And being a scientist he knows there is always more to learn and that models keep changing as we get more evidence.

BIO OF WELLS FROM WIKIPEDIA

“Wells did his Ph.D. work under Richard Lewontin, and later did postdoctoral research with Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza and Sir Walter Bodmer. His work, which has helped to establish the critical role played by Central Asia in the peopling of the world, has been published in journals such as Science, American Journal of Human Genetics, and the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

He wrote the book The Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey (2002), which explains how genetic data has been used to trace human migrations over the past 50,000 years, when modern humans first migrated outside of Africa. According to Wells, one group took a southern route and populated southern India and southeast Asia, then Australia. The other group, accounting for 90% of the world’s non-African population (some 5 billion people as of late 2006), took a northern route, eventually peopling most of Eurasia (largely displacing the aboriginals in southern India, Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia in the process), North Africa and the Americas. Wells also wrote and presented the PBS/National Geographic documentary of the same name. By analyzing DNA from people in all regions of the world, Wells has concluded that all humans alive today are descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 - 90,000 years ago, a man also known as Y-chromosomal Adam.[1]

Since 2005, Wells has headed The Genographic Project, undertaken by the National Geographic Society, IBM and the Waitt Family Foundation, which will add to our knowledge of human history by analyzing DNA samples from around the world, thereby creating a picture of how our ancestors populated the planet.”

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By PatrickHenry, April 4, 2008 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

It keeps evolving.

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By Conservative Yankee, April 4, 2008 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
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It is physically impossible for “ALL humans” to be “...descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 years ago.” If the human race has been here and widespread (In China as well as Africa) for 200,000 years.  Even Magic Johnson can’t fuck that many women worldwide and he has a plane!

I assume you must have misunderstood what was being said. The racial differences that distinguish Peking Man and those from the Spanish “homo antecessor” (400,000 BC) were already established.

Many theories and no absolutes…

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By Jack, April 4, 2008 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
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She was his slave and mother of his five kids.  He built a tunnel to her quarters so he could visit her when he wished.  A slave does what the master requests. She was not owned by anyone but Jefferson and was 16 years old when he began his “relationship” with her.

The popular view of the founding fathers as great leaders and Christian men of high moral character is a bit changed when you look at their actions (rapes,sexual exploitation, torture,etc). This may explain why Blacks do not get misty-eyed when these guys are mentioned.

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By Leefeller, April 4, 2008 at 6:14 am Link to this comment

Out of context sound bites selected to make the comments contentious and unpatriotic, dost not matter to the bigots for it was spoken by a black man.

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By bert, April 3, 2008 at 10:34 pm Link to this comment

Jeffersom us one of my favorite Presidents. I have read numerous bios and have been to Monticello three times.

As for children:

“Members of Hemings’ family have passed down the paternity claim through the generations. Last year, a DNA study concluded that Jefferson was likely the father of at least one of Hemings six children, Eston Hemings, the slave’s youngest son (JET, Nov. 16, 1998). “

You can read the entire article here:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-54851954.html

This is not the definitive piece on the issue. But there is no doubt Hemmings was his mistress.

The Monticelleo organization says that more study needs to be done. NOT. DNA is pretty compelling proof.

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By bert, April 3, 2008 at 10:22 pm Link to this comment

The school system must be worsr than I think. Can’t you even read a simple sentence and understand it?

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE

Spencer Wells who wrote the book The Journey of Man (also an excellent PBS special and video) who has proven that all humans alive today are descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 years ago.

Wells does not say this ‘single man’ is the FIRST man (or woman), just that everyone else on earth today is descended from this man.

The book is sometimes a hard read becasue of all the DNA background. The video is much easier to understand. Better to see it than to rely on Wikipedia. Plys Wells’s research is far more recent than Peking Man, and actually fills in some of the holes.

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By jack, April 3, 2008 at 8:14 am Link to this comment
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I am not speaking of times prior to the North American slave trade. The founding fathers and other wealthy slave owners did sexually exploit slave women. I mentionned Strom Thurmon as an example of how long the behaviors existed and as a rich, white man in modern times who had more power to use his Black servant ( who mysteriously died a few years after child birth).  There is no moral outrage at these men who have had the power to rape/abuse women without consequences .  There is no sympathy for the hundreds of thousands of girls/women who were sexually exploited for hundreds of years.  The mixed blood   in African Americans came from the wealthy white,Christian slave owners like Washington , Jefferson. Sally Hemmings was his SLAVE. He did not free her! He built a special room/tunnel so he visit her as he wished. He begain sleeping with her when she was 16 and he was about 40. It is rumored that one of his five kids passed for white.  We know that the only people in the USA named Washington or Jefferson are Black since whites at the time did not want to be suspected of actually having Black Blood.  Strom Thurman is an example of how long such power and control existed for powerful white men . He is one baby dady who actually helped to support his kid. He had no fear of being questioned or called out for it . See the PBS series “African-American lives” for more info on Black history.
As for early man,the Discovery Channel video “The Real Eve” describes how we are all related to 3 Black women who lived in Africa many thousands of years ago”

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By Conservative Yankee, April 3, 2008 at 6:07 am Link to this comment
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bert


before jumping on others for historical “errors” it is a good idea to get your own version of “facts” to fit reality.


From Wikipedia

“Peking Man (now sometimes called Beijing Man), also called Sinanthropus pekinensis (currently Homo erectus pekinensis), is an example of Homo erectus. The remains were first discovered in 1923-27 during excavations at Zhoukoudian (Choukoutien) near Beijing (Peking), China. The finds have been dated from roughly 250,000-400,000 years ago”

He is not the first “human”. As you note, most scholars believe the first human was female. and most likely born in Africa.  There are some studies that contend humans emerged in different areas (South America and Australia) about the same time.

So far no link at all has binded the Australian aborigines to any other race. Likewise the Hutu.


The 40,000 60,000 start date for humans is one of many Xtian fairy tales.

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By cyrena, April 2, 2008 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

Not to worry JimBob,

I figured it out, and probably the rest of us did as well.

I was fortunate enough to FINALLY learn the real history of the US, and I’m embarrassed to say that it was only in the past decade.

As a person of color born in the 50’s, the true history of the US (which had slavery and racism at it’s foundation at the onset) was NEVER taught in my first 12 years of education. Rather, we just got the standard Thanksgiving stories about the Natives sharing turkey dinner with the Pilgrims, like everybody was all happy and stuff.

Not quite. Those times were outright VIOLENT!!

And now, in my further and more detailed studies of Constitutional Law, the truth reveals itself.

And, I do believe in the adage that “The truth shall set us free.” ALL of us. That does mean that we have to find it out though. History is the best place to begin. It’s been hidden under the rug for far too long. Just sweeping it there DOESN’T make it go away.

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By bert, April 2, 2008 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment

This is beautiful, Lee. You are so right. Despite her faults there is still much to be proud of and love.

Like you my maternal grandparents were from, ‘the old country.’ And they had similar expereinces as yours.

And I am glad you spoke out to those who only have bad things to say about the US.

When I was in ccollge in the 60’s and marched against Vietnam and for civil rights and women’s rights Some printed up some bumper stickers that a lot of us slapped on our b cars that read, “America - Fix it or Forget it.”

So some local truck drivers came up with a bumper sticker that saud, “Anerica - Love it or Leave it.”

Today with a few more years and a lot more expereince I realize both groups were wrong. The bumper sticker should have said “America - Love it and Fix it.”

If you are not in the trenches teaching in an inner city, working in a political party, walking in the marches or on the picket lines, lobbying and testifying before city, county, state and federal legislative bodies, working a food kitchen for the poor, enlisting in the military then you really don’t get it.

Again Lee, great post and thanks for telling it like it is.

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By bert, April 2, 2008 at 7:22 pm Link to this comment

<<<<<<  I am very surprised you were unaware of sexual exploitation of female slaves. NAIVE!! >>>>>>

Quote me jack. Cite from one of my posts where I say or I deny this. I have never even duscussed this topic on this or any other blog. (until now)

I was referring only to your wildly insane and historically inaccurate assertion that Strom Thurmond was a founding father. And the woman in question was not a slave.  “At the time of Washington’s birth, her mother worked for Edgefield’s segregated school system, and Thurmond taught and coached white students. ” [Ken Cummins 12/02, The Black Comment]

In the first post you never mentioned Jefferson. You mention his name in your 2nd post or response to me.(And yes, I know about Sally Hemmings. And she was his long term lover.)

The only example you cited for founding fathers in that first post was Thurmon. I hate to tell you {well, not really} he was NOT a founding father.

And here is your actual quote:  “Our founding fathers raped slave women, were racist and white supremacists but we do not think any less of them (i.e. Strom Thurmon)” Posted By jack, March 31 at 8:39 am #145660(Unregistered commenter)

i.e. means ‘for example.’ So you said/wrote that Strom Thurmon was a founding father. He couldn’t have been. He was not even born yet. He was born after the Civil War. Different age in American history.

And here is part of my reply back - “I never knew Strom Thurman was a Founding Father.” I was needling you about your apparent lack of knowledge about U.S. History.I take it you don’t get sarcasm very well either.

And no it neither shocks or surprises me that we are all of mixed blood. I have know that all my life. And I have already dealt with this on a different thread when I talked about geneticist Spencer Wells who wrote the book The Journey of Man (also an excellent PBS special and video) who has proven that all humans alive today are descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 years ago. The book and the video document his discovery.

So get off your high horse jack and learn your history and learn how to write.

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By bert, April 2, 2008 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

Compared with other sites Truth Digs is a bit ‘off’ with regard to Main Poat and replys. It probably was not your fault JimBob.

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By jack, April 2, 2008 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment
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Wright was actually quoting a passage Ambassador Peck, a white person when he stated that the chickens wer coming home to roost.  SO you can direct your comments at the at Mr. Peck! IF YOU DARE
Listen/ Read the full sermon. Not the edited one created by the powerful white media. IF YOU DARE

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By Leefeller, April 2, 2008 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment

We know who the racist is, anti American Church?  So anyone who calls our government on it’s lies and deceptions is anti American.  Great logic, small minds think alike, yes we do know who the racist is.

Never question authority, it hurts.

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By jack, April 2, 2008 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment
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See the PBS web site for the documentary African American Lives”
Research “Sally Hemmings” Jefferson’s slave/mistress
this was a common practice for men such as our founding fathers. Washington to Strom Thurmon, they were above question. Hence the average Black person in the US is 15-50 % white.  I am very surprised you were unaware of sexual exploitation
of female slaves. NAIVE!!

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By jack, April 2, 2008 at 2:39 pm Link to this comment
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I hate to shock you, but nearly all African-Americans are 15-50% white due to the sexual exploitatin of Black women during and after slavery. Pres. Jefferson and Washington are an example of our heroes who had children with their slave women i.e. Sally Hemmings)
That is why the only people named Washington and Jefferson are Black.  The white people back in those days changed thier names so they would not be accuses of having Black blood and being mistrated as a result.
Do not act so surprised.  Slave owners bought hundreds of young female slaves. Of course they used them physically-duh! 
Strom Thurmon is a more modern day example of how white men were beyond question and did as they pleased ( no detriment to their careers or status).
So much of the true story of Black people has been left out of history books

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By jack, April 2, 2008 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment
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How does Wright discussing injustice create racism?
ML King did the same thing.  King expressed his dissapointement with the broken promises of America.
King also stated that America was the greatest purveyor of violence in the world.  He later said that America was going to hell( for its immorality/violence, injustice and denial of equality)
see the http://www.maarfa.org site for a glimpse of US history that few whites are aware of.

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By Conservative Yankee, April 2, 2008 at 9:48 am Link to this comment
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Only two types of whites?

Wow

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By Bill Blackolive, April 2, 2008 at 9:42 am Link to this comment
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Latest on homosapiens is we are 200,000 years ago born on Earth.  None of this gets taught in the first grade.  The US got going on its spoils of war then entered the southern Americas in racist balderdash.  By world War I we had too much industrial might for Germany or anyone past World War 11.  We have been the most indoctrinated country. Read Henry Miller’s THE AIR CONDITIONED NIGHTMARE. Miller claimed our birds die on this white bread.  Other dictatorships ruled in plain fear, we did brain wash.

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By Lee, April 2, 2008 at 8:55 am Link to this comment

Backers of Barack Obama say he has the best opportunity to create a new sense of national unity and to transcend divisions within this country ...You mean the same Barak Obama who attended an anti-American, racist church for 20 years? ... You mean the same Barak Obama who swore allegiance to the divisive ‘black value system’ for 20 years? ... You mean the same Barak Obama whose chosen mentor/advisor for 20 years is an anti-American, racist, who gave a disgusting, racist like Louis Farrakan a life time achievement award? This is the best person to bring unity to America? WHAT, ARE YOU KIDDING?

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By Leefeller, April 2, 2008 at 6:56 am Link to this comment

Have not seen anyone comment on the truths that are U.S. yet, but could have missed them.  Our country has abused many over the years, the Back people may be at the forfront, but I suspect we are forgetting the Native Americans and of course what we did to our own Japanese citizens. 

Bigotry has to do with differences any little differences, now we have the Mexicans to abuse, everyone gets a turn in the barrel. 

Bigots need something to make them selves feel good about their disfunction, why not pick on someone different, there are many easy targets to choose from. Hell,  make one up.

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By JimBob, March 31, 2008 at 10:06 pm Link to this comment

The above was meant to be a response to cyrena’s reply to my post below, but I mis-posted it.

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By JimBob, March 31, 2008 at 10:05 pm Link to this comment

You’re quite right.  At the same time, many other populations came to America in poverty and subjugation if not slavery yet their whiteness allowed them to assimilate rapidly.  In fact, why was it possible to enslave Africans if not because of the marked extent of their Otherness?  There were other primitive and defenseless white populations on the planet which could have been dragged here in chains, but the lack of an inherent sense of their Otherness would not have allowed Americans of European descent to accept them as slaves. 
My point is that the maintenance of the institutional, habitual, ingrained racism to which you refer is at least partially fueled by something that is built into human DNA.  It is not so much secondary as it is fundamental, with many layers of socialized behavior overlaid upon it. It is never discussed, never admitted to; I propose that if it were, a healthier discussion of the evils that were allowed to happen because of it could take place.

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By bert, March 31, 2008 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment

You write:    “Our founding fathers raped slave women, were racist and white supremacists but we do not think any less of them (i.e. Strom Thurmon)”

Where did you learn history?  What history book did you read? Your teachers must be really proud of you. I never knew Strom Thurman was a Founding Father.

Also, go read what black liberation theology is all about.

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By bert, March 31, 2008 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment

You write     “I think Clinton’s tactic to publicize and emphasize Obama’s relationship with Wright is underhanded,..”

For the 100th time, Clinton had NOTHING at all to do with the Wright controversy. The information has been out there for over a year, especially on right wing conservative blogs and newspapers.

In fact on Jan. 9, 2008 Joe Conoson posted right here on Truth Dig about what Obama could expect if he was the nominee, and Wright was on his list. That was several months before he became a household name. Link below.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/20080109_the_coming_attack_on_barack/

Why do you always blame Hillary? This controversy is of Obama’s own making. Obama made it an issue by not breaking his association with him, and t making him his mentor, and staying in the church for 20 years.

And for the record, Brian Ross of ABC News broke the story and no Clinton did not leak it. There were rumblings from several sources, all Ross did was go to the church web site, biught the tapes, then watched them. The rest they say is history.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 31, 2008 at 9:08 pm Link to this comment

Lee! Whites are of two types: one type is noble and conscientious,like Tim Wise; and the other type is called white trash, so which type are you?!

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By cyrena, March 31, 2008 at 8:56 pm Link to this comment

This is part of it JimBob, but only part of it. Other cultures don’t have these same issues.

We have to also accept all the rest that comes with it, which is that our nation was founded on slavery.

Even now, you’ll find people that are perfectly accepting of black folks and others of color, UNTIL they (the people of color) manage to acquire something that the member of the dominant culture doesn’t have, and it doesn’t matter what it is. It could be an assumed better job, a bigger house, a better education, fame, power, whatever it is.

That’s just the way the socio-psychological structure of our society, which has been based on capitalism from the beginning.

So yes, these other standard human reactions do come into play, but they are secondary to MAINTAINING the the racism that is institutional. You’re talking about racism on the micro-level, (generally a result of ignorance or lack of exposure) and people get over that the same way they get over a fear of flying at 40,000.

Racism in America exists on the MACRO level, and it’s endemic. It’s part of the structure of the society. It always has been. That’s why we need to know our American history, for it to really correct.

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By JimBob, March 31, 2008 at 8:07 pm Link to this comment

We’re in denial about the basis for racism which, if perhaps we can own it and face up to the truth of it, will allow all humans, of every color and race, to live together more peacefully.  That truth is that we, like other “pack animals,” are most comfortable when surrounded by those who look, sound and act like us.  We can overcome that basic instinct, just as we can learn not to freak out at 40,000 feet in an airplane or while maneuvering down a crowded freeway with death or serious injury hovering mere inches away from our bumper.  But first we have to acknowledge that, just as we’re more relaxed on the ground or strolling through a park, we are in fact conditioned to want to see ourselves in those around us.  Too many millennia of human development, in which small differences in physiognomy signaled danger from groups with threatening agendas, have passed for us to simply wave away our gut reaction to “the Other” because we’ve arrived at the intellectual conclusion that “all men are created equal.”  Obviously, this doesn’t mean we should all clan up into homogeneous groups and build walls to keep out “exotics.”  But if we’re going to derive the benefits that accrue to heterogeneity we need to admit that on a reptilian level, it goes against the grain.  Once we do that, we can develop the means to accommodate and mitigate natural reflexes.  But as long as we are in denial about our fundamental nature, as long as we tell ourselves that it’s just plain morally wrong to feel as we do, we won’t find a true and lasting solution to the question of how we can all live together in acceptance and peace.

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By Outraged, March 31, 2008 at 7:47 pm Link to this comment

I swear some people are thick as a brick arent they?

Thanks Fadel Abdallah for posting Tim Wise’s article.

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By shanenol, March 31, 2008 at 4:41 pm Link to this comment

While I agree with some of the points pastor Wright brings to the forefront I also believe that many of his comments and actions perpetuate the same kind of racism he is so vehmently preaching against. Furthermore, I think Clinton’s tactic to publicize and emphasize Obama’s relationship with Wright is underhanded, but then again that’s politics.

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By bert, March 31, 2008 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment

EVEN WHEN THE ‘ENDS’ HAVEN’T PROVEN TO BE A GENUINE ‘WIN’.

Let me try and understand what you are saying. Is this statement a kin with Donald Rumsfeld’s , know unknowns and unknown knows? Kinda sounds like it.

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By cyrena, March 31, 2008 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

“....but would a true Christian espouse hatred of an entire race of people from a pulpit?...”

Well, indeed I HAVE heard alleged Christians DO this..espouse hatred of an ENTIRE RACE from a pulpit, (and other locations).

However…WRIGHT HAS DONE NO SUCH THING!!

So, it’s all in your imagination cracker.

(and those twisted out of context sound bytes).

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By Leefeller, March 31, 2008 at 2:46 pm Link to this comment

Your over contumelious denial of Racism and bigotry is exactly the problem.  But only in part, their are many other problems in our country that need address, seems for some and you denial is a river in Egypt.

Your assumptions are without merit, the flaw in your craw is you assume way to much.

Tim Wise article address a problem of how people perceive things, compassion would go a long way in helping your assertions.

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By DeadNietzsche, March 31, 2008 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment
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“They don’t know or understand WHY these neighborhoods that suffer high crime rates might involve more black folks, and they don’t have the opportunities to compare or otherwise recognize that the same crimes, (or worse) are perpetrated by an equal or larger number of whites.”


Each year, some 1.2 million violent crimes involving blacks and whites occur nationwide. In fully 90 percent of those cases, according to U.S. Justice Department figures, the perpetrators are black and the victims are white. Violent white felons choose black victims for fewer than 3 percent of their attacks, whereas violent black felons choose white victims about 56 percent of the time. Statistically, the “average” African American is an astonishing 56 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa. In one recent year, approximately 100 black women were raped by white men; the corresponding number of white women raped by black men was over 20,000, according to Dinesh D’Souza in The End of Racism.

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By Conservative Yankee, March 31, 2008 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment
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Jerry Wright is black (well sort of) and Jerry Falwell was white (I guess) what is the difference between saying “God brought 9/11 down on us because we embrace values Leviticus (The house of pre-xtian rabbis)warn against” and saying The Muslims inflicted 9/11 on us because we treated them badly. 

One of the reason’s Wright’s sermons do not connect with “white America” is that most white folks do not trace their line back through slaves. Most white folks have not lived in a Ghetto, and it is difficult to tell one white (say a Catholic liberal) from another (say a protestant conservative)

I have lived in a Ghetto, I have listened to priests in a Catholic Church say things much like what Wright said to his followers. In some fashion, it is a message of hope.

here are some phrases I heard while at St. Peter’s on Main South in Worcester”

“The Devil sits with those charlatans in Boston who believe it is right and just to take from those who have almost nothing and give to those who live like royalty.”

“Theft is not wrong when only profit is lost while the hunger of a child is sated.”

“The prisoners in West Boyleston (Worcester House of Correction) have committed no worse acts than has the Governor of this Commonwealth”

“The poor can never be as evil as the rich, for it takes money and power to be so universally cruel while remaining blissfully unaware of the consequences.”

These statements, when taken together, essentially say; “God Damn The Commonwealth”

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By Lee, March 31, 2008 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

You know, there are still a lot of Americans who are patriotic, and proud to be Americans. Although there are some things wrong with this country, there are a lot more things right with this country. I guess that’s why in spite of the continual America bashing from people like you and Cyrena and Leefeller, you choose to live here, instead of the Islamic countries you constantly defend. What have you three ever done to positively contribute to America? Have you been in the military, or public service of any kind? I have ... as did my father, cousins, uncles, etc.. Please let us not forget that thousands of Americans of all races have either risked their lives, or given their lives for the freedoms you ingrates now enjoy.  My Grandparents came here from an oppressive foreign country in order to start a ‘free’ new life. They ran into bigotry and racism, but they respected and embraced the American culture, instead of bashing it. They worked in sweat mills, along with people representing other countries and races to help make this country they were so proud of a better place. Like many others who came here, they assimilated into the American melting pot. People like you, Wright, etc. enjoy all the benefits of living here, while constantly complaining, accusing, etc..  This whole country is composed of various minorities with difficult histories, but you seem to think this country owes you entitlements over and above the rest of us.  if you think it’s so bad here, why don’t you move to an Islamic country, and see how many rights, freedoms, and harsh punishments you would endure. Talk is cheap! You malcontents wouldn’t even have the freedom to shoot off your mouth in the Islamic countries you defend. One of the great acts of wisdom that was established in America was to separate church and state. The thought of living under a 12th century theocracy with brutal restrictions and punishments is pretty scary. If you America bashers prefer to live under that kind of tyranny, fine ... but, don’t try to shove it down our throats.

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By jack, March 31, 2008 at 10:11 am Link to this comment
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People should take the time out to listen to the unedited sermons of Wright on youtube.
The media lied to raise their ratings. Obama pacified some of them but refused to disown Wright.
Even Rev. King stated that America was going to hell and that America was the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet.
More people are now realizing that Wright is a brilliant scholar. His sermons are now available at itunes! The founding fathers raped slave women and held white supremacists view , but we are taught to ignore this fact.  The media gave little analysis to Strom Thurmons hypocrisy while they are demonize Wright!

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By jack, March 31, 2008 at 9:39 am Link to this comment
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Wright never encourages hate of anyone.  He is a critic of the US gov’t and uses examples of colonizers throughout history (Ancient Rome, Communist China, Russia etc) and their subsequent downfall due to their refusal to behave in a moral and ethical way.
Our founding fathers raped slave women, were racist and white supremacists but we do not think any less of them (i.e. Strom Thurmon)
Wright never says Blacks are superior to whites.
His topic was God and Gov’t.  His point was Governments who behave in an immoral, cruel way in domestic or foreign policy will fail and instead of us saying God Bless Americs we will be saying that God damned America for killing innocent people for thinking she is supreme (above God)

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By Louise, March 31, 2008 at 8:17 am Link to this comment

Rob Adcox:

“... would a true Christian espouse hatred of an entire race of people from a pulpit?”

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Well duh ... watch them go after those “Islamo” fascists on the boob tube! Complete with backdrop portraying typical “Arab” tooting gun, dressed in red robes and sporting small horns on forehead!

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“I know he’s arrogant (another unchristian trait), but come on.”

Right ... come on already!

Definition of arrogant:
- Exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one’s own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner.
- Having excessive pride in ones self.
- Making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud:

Now if that doesn’t describe most well known Christian Preachifyers, I don’t know what does!

That humility thing can often be found among their “followers” but rarely in the “leader.” Which pretty well insures the guy taking the name of God in vain will continue receiving un-earned respect, un-earned income and un-earned power.

And, in spite of the fact that the “piously” outraged Wright attackers claim to be offended by his alleged racism. The reality is, they are delighted. Kinda takes the spotlight off their own racism, while still allowing them to lustily pursue said racism!

A win-win for the lose-losers.

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By Austin, March 31, 2008 at 8:16 am Link to this comment
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(Fox’s Charles Krauthammer berated Wright for saying the 9/11 attacks were “chickens coming home to roost.” Krauthammer labeled the pronouncement “vitriolic divisiveness”)

Krauthammer is right: the statement is divisive because it divides those who want to know the truth—whatever that truth may be—from jingoistic nationalists, who shun unpleasant truths and anyone who speaks them.

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By Leefeller, March 31, 2008 at 7:10 am Link to this comment

Ok We should never disturb the Disneyland with reality. People should never hear the Blunt Truth, they cannot handle it and of heaven forbid, they may agree with it, we cannot have any of that.

Live a lie or keep ones head in the sand. Apathy or ignore, well it has worked before.

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By Leefeller, March 31, 2008 at 7:02 am Link to this comment

It is so nice to hear a real Christian, condemn an other alleged unreal Christian. Me the right Christian, anyone that does not agree with me is not a true Christan. 

“Wright has zero credibility”.  Blunt truth should never be brought to the pulpit, only the comfort of the pew allowed.

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 9:23 pm Link to this comment

Great piece. Sadly the bigots and racists will not read it or want to comprehend the real truths. 

It remains to be seen if Obama is hurt from the bigoted numbers.  Hopefully they are lower in numbers than in the past.  Part of Obamas Hope.

Like Obama, a refreshing piece of reality.

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By cyrena, March 30, 2008 at 9:05 pm Link to this comment

Bert,

I think you pointed out the ideological gulf in your suggestion (again) of what a ‘winner’ is, or even in what a ‘winning’ mentality is, and Leefeller made that clear enough in his own response.

These ARE in fact all opinions, (from all of us) and have everything to do with our individual ideologies, most often framed by our individual life experiences, our social experiences, and our own genetic (primarily our psychological) make-up.

But the real ‘difference’ here, (one of them) is in how one defines ‘winner’. You have (as many people represented here, and even more that I’ve known in my own life time) a ME/I conception of ‘win’ and what it means to ‘win’ rather than a ‘we/us’ conception of what a win actually means, conceptually/theoretically.

As a result, you are very much into the ‘ends justify the means’ mentality, EVEN WHEN THE ‘ENDS’ HAVEN’T PROVEN TO BE A GENUINE ‘WIN’. So, for you, (as with the large ‘other’ that represents the current far right radical movement of the Cheney regime,) it becomes a ‘whatever it takes’ to ‘win’. But even as you promote the movement, (and the means) you don’t have a correlated or otherwise integrated conception of what that ‘win’ actually is. At the very least, it’s throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and at worst, it leads to the destruction of the whole.

So, you rant and rave at me, call me a Social Elitist, (which is a joke that anyone who knows me would find overwhelmingly amusing in a sardonic sort of a way, since my own ideology is the very antithesis of anything that smells of ‘elitist’). And yet, you have no conception or comprehension of what a ‘winning’ mentality is in my own ideology.

That’s why you weren’t able to comprehend my comment of appreciation for the intelligence displayed by my fellow citizens, in being able to utilize their intellects for the greater good. In other words, our growing COLLECTIVE ability to see through the bullshit, and to exercise good sense for…the greater good.

This is, and I would say unarguably, a huge improvement over a collective society that at least ostensibly, elected a gangster regime that has high-jacked our nation, and taken us all hostage. (or maybe just 99% of us). And, we’ve been held hostage for damn year 8 years now, with none of the standard rescue tools (always available from the beginning of this experiment) having been put to use. (IMPEACHMENT).

So, even while we can (and should) accept and acknowledge that these gangsters were never actually ‘elected’ or appointed –by the people- we also have to accept and acknowledge that ENOUGH of us DID succumb to what can only be considered a lack of knowledge or other information in respect to what is best for our individual and collective interests.

MY comment was to say (though I wouldn’t have expected you to ‘get’ that perspective) that I’m hopefully encouraged and PROUD of the fact that more and more of us ARE ‘getting’ it. And that a ‘winning attitude’ in my opinion, means a unified and appropriately INFORMED populace. I see that developing, and I’m smart enough myself, to know that my OWN prosperity and ‘salvation’ along with that of my loved ones/friends/family/neighbors/etc, is 100% dependant on the welfare of every single other citizen. It does NOT help any one or few of us to ‘be smart’ or to ‘be educated’ or to have health care, or to have housing, or any of the rest of it, if we don’t ALL have it, at least to the measure that allows us to all thrive.

So for me, THAT’S the winning attitude.

End of rant.

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By cyrena, March 30, 2008 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment

Thanks Jack, for this mention of the PBS special. I’d missed it. Sounds very helpful to some of my own on-going research.

As for what you’ve posted here..yep..it’s all true.

If we can eventually divorce ourselves from the emotional rhetoric of the hate (and ignorance) that creates the problem, and just approach the HOW and WHY from an established collection of FACTS, then it would be a start.

I don’t know if that’s possible.

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By cyrena, March 30, 2008 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

Dear Fadel,

Thanks so much for posting this article/piece from Tim Wise. Indeed, it is superb, and extraordinarily appropriate for this thread.

It probably goes without saying that it is an extremely helpful addition to my own on-going work, since the theme is consistent with my own endeavors. Basically, the US has a history of racism dating back to its very conception, and the bottom line is that as a collection of 300+ million citizens, far too few of us KNOW it, (this history) or are able to connect the conceptual dots to understand its effects on the collective social psychology of our nation.

It probably also goes without saying that there are MANY ways to study this development, (of racism in America) and that just one of them is the study of the Constitution. Most of us miss the reality of the language –BUILT INTO THAT DOCUMENT along the way- that has actually sanctioned and provided the foundation for what could only have resulted in the racism that we live with today.

That is of course only one element of it, but the history is foundational, and that’s the bottom line. We ignore it at our own peril, as we have for over two Centuries.

Meantime, I followed the piece to the link that published it, (counterpunch) though it was apparently originally published at LIP. (I was unfamiliar with that site). That made it easier for me to just zap the entire piece with my nifty little ‘adobe acrobat’ tool. (I do so love that little helper). So, for anyone else who would like to access it in its entirety, (one piece) I’ve put the link below.

Thanks again.

http://www.counterpunch.org/wise03182008.html

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By Rob Adcox, March 30, 2008 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment
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Leave it to a liberal to overcomplicate this issue. First of all, Wright claims to be “Christian”, but would a true Christian espouse hatred of an entire race of people from a pulpit? Of course not. Since God is no respector of persons, why should Wright be? Does he think his business is more important than God’s? I know he’s arrogant (another unchristian trait), but come on. And let’s not forget the real reason Wright condemns we crackers: because he knows that there is an entire industry of race manipulation as pioneered by con artists like Sharpton and Jackson. Wright has ZERO credibility.

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By republicanSScareme, March 30, 2008 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment
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The nut-wing would be wise to hide what Reverend Wright says instead of advertising it. The more people hear what he says, the more they agree with him.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 4:27 pm Link to this comment

Here’s Part 6 of Tim Wise’s Article!
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So what can we say about a nation that values lies more than it loves truth? A place where adherence to sincerely believed and internalized fictions allows one to rise to the highest offices in the land, and to earn the respect of millions, while a willingness to challenge those fictions and offer a more accurate counter-narrative earns one nothing but contempt, derision, indeed outright hatred? What we can say is that such a place is signing its own death warrant. What we can say is that such a place is missing the only and last opportunity it may ever have to make things right, to live up to its professed ideals. What we can say is that such a place can never move forward, because we have yet to fully address and come to terms with that which lay behind.
What can we say about a nation where white preachers can lie every week from their pulpits without so much as having to worry that their lies might be noticed by the shiny white faces in their pews, while black preachers who tell one after another essential truth are demonized, not only for the stridency of their tone—which needless to say scares white folks, who have long preferred a style of praise and worship resembling nothing so much as a coma—but for merely calling bullshit on those whose lies are swallowed whole?
And oh yes, I said it: white preachers lie. In fact, they lie with a skill, fluidity, and precision unparalleled in the history of either preaching or lying, both of which histories stretch back a ways and have often overlapped. They lie every Sunday, as they talk about a Savior they have chosen to represent dishonestly as a white man, in every picture to be found of him in their tabernacles, every children’s story book in their Sunday Schools, every Christmas card they’ll send to relatives and friends this December. But to lie about Jesus, about the one they consider God—to bear false witness as to who this man was and what he looked like—is no cause for concern.
Nor is it a problem for these preachers to teach and preach that those who don’t believe as they believe are going to hell. Despite the fact that such a belief casts aspersions upon God that are so profound as to defy belief—after all, they imply that God is so fundamentally evil that he would burn non-believers in a lake of eternal fire—many of the white folks who now condemn Jeremiah Wright welcome that theology of hate. Indeed, back when President Bush was the Governor of Texas, he endorsed this kind of thinking, responding to a question about whether Jews were going to go to hell, by saying that unless one accepted Jesus as one’s personal savior, the Bible made it pretty clear that indeed, hell was where you’d be heading.
So you can curse God in this way—and to imply such hate on God’s part is surely to curse him—and in effect, curse those who aren’t Christians, and no one says anything. That isn’t considered bigoted. That isn’t considered beyond the pale of polite society. One is not disqualified from becoming President in the minds of millions because they go to a church that says that shit every single week, or because they believe it themselves. And millions do believe it, and see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
So white folks are mad at Jeremiah Wright because he challenges their views about their country. Meanwhile, those same white folks, and their ministers and priests, every week put forth a false image of the God Jeremiah Wright serves, and yet it is whites who feel we have the right to be offended.
Pardon me, but something is wrong here, and whatever it is, is not to be found at Trinity United Church of Christ.

Tim Wise is the author of: White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son (Soft Skull Press, 2005), and Affirmative Action: Racial Preference in Black and White (Routledge: 2005). He can be reached at: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
This essay originally appeared in Lip.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

Here’s Part 5 of Tim Wise’s Article!
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Most white people desire, or perhaps even require the propagation of lies when it comes to our history. Surely we prefer the lies to anything resembling, even remotely, the truth. Our version of history, of our national past, simply cannot allow for the intrusion of fact into a worldview so thoroughly identified with fiction. But that white version of America is not only extraordinarily incomplete, in that it so favors the white experience to the exclusion of others; it is more than that; it is actually a slap in the face to people of color, a re-injury, a reminder that they are essentially irrelevant, their concerns trivial, their lives unworthy of being taken seriously. In that sense, and what few if any white Americans appear capable of grasping at present, is that “Leave it Beaver” and “Father Knows Best,” portray an America so divorced from the reality of the times in which they were produced, as to raise serious questions about the sanity of those who found them so moving, so accurate, so real. These iconographic representations of life in the U.S. are worse than selective, worse than false, they are assaults to the humanity and memory of black people, who were being savagely oppressed even as June Cleaver did housework in heels and laughed about the hilarious hijinks of Beaver and Larry Mondello.
These portraits of America are certifiable evidence of how disconnected white folks were—and to the extent we still love them and view them as representations of the “good old days” to which we wish we could return, still are—from those men and women of color with whom we have long shared a nation. Just two months before “Leave it to Beaver” debuted, proposed civil rights legislation was killed thanks to Strom Thurmond’s 24-hour filibuster speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate. One month prior, Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus called out the National Guard to block black students from entering Little Rock Central High; and nine days before America was introduced to the Cleavers, and the comforting image of national life they represented, those black students were finally allowed to enter, amid the screams of enraged, unhinged, viciously bigoted white people, who saw nothing wrong with calling children niggers in front of cameras. That was America of the 1950s: not the sanitized version into which so many escape thanks to the miracle of syndication, which merely allows white people to relive a lie, year after year after year.
No, it is not the pastor who distorts history; Nick at Nite and your teenager’s textbooks do that. It is not he who casts aspersions upon “this great country” as Barack Obama put it in his public denunciations of him; it is the historic leadership of the nation that has cast aspersions upon it; it is they who have cheapened it, who have made gaudy and vile the promise of American democracy by defiling it with lies. They engage in a patriotism that is pathological in its implications, that asks of those who adhere to it not merely a love of country but the turning of one’s nation into an idol to be worshipped, it not literally, then at least in terms of consequence.
It is they—the flag-lapel-pin wearing leaders of this land—who bring shame to the country with their nonsensical suggestions that we are always noble in warfare, always well-intended, and although we occasionally make mistakes, we are never the ones to blame for anything. Nothing that happens to us has anything to do with us at all. It is always about them. They are evil, crazy, fanatical, hate our freedoms, and are jealous of our prosperity. When individuals prattle on in this manner we diagnose them as narcissistic, as deluded. When nations do it—when our nation does—we celebrate it as though it were the very model of rational and informed citizenship.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment

Here’s Part 4 of Tim Wise’s Article!
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And so we were shocked in 1987, when Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall declined to celebrate the bicentennial of the Constitution, because, as he noted, most of that history had been one of overt racism and injustice, and to his way of thinking, the only history worth celebrating had been that of the past three or four decades.
We were shocked to learn that black people actually believed that a white cop who was a documented racist might frame a black man; and we’re shocked to learn that lots of black folks still perceive the U.S. as a racist nation—we’re literally stunned that people who say they experience discrimination regularly (and who have the social science research to back them up) actually think that those experiences and that data might actually say something about the nation in which they reside. Imagine.
Whites are easily shocked by what we see and hear from Pastor Wright and Trinity Church, because what we see and hear so thoroughly challenges our understanding of who we are as a nation. But black people have never, for the most part, believed in the imagery of the “shining city on a hill,” for they have never had the option of looking at their nation and ignoring the mountain-sized warts still dotting its face when it comes to race. Black people do not, in the main, get misty eyed at the sight of the flag the way white people do—and this is true even for millions of black veterans—for they understand that the nation for whom that flag waves is still not fully committed to their own equality. They have a harder time singing those tunes that white people seem so eager to belt out, like “God Bless America,” for they know that whites sang those words loudly and proudly even as they were enforcing Jim Crow segregation, rioting against blacks who dared move into previously white neighborhoods, throwing rocks at Dr. King and then cheering, as so many did, when they heard the news that he had been assassinated.
Whites refuse to remember (or perhaps have never learned) that which black folks cannot afford to forget. I’ve seen white people stunned to the point of paralysis when they learn the truth about lynchings in this country—when they discover that such events were not just a couple of good old boys with a truck and a rope hauling some black guy out to the tree, hanging him, and letting him swing there. They were never told the truth: that lynchings were often community events, advertised in papers as “Negro Barbecues,” involving hundreds or even thousands of whites, who would join in the fun, eat chicken salad and drink sweet tea, all while the black victims of their depravity were being hung, then shot, then burned, and then having their body parts cut off, to be handed out to onlookers. They are stunned to learn that postcards of the events were traded as souvenirs, and that very few whites, including members of their own families did or said anything to stop it.
Rather than knowing about and confronting the ugliness of our past, whites take steps to excise the less flattering aspects of our history so that we need not be bothered with them. So, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for example, site of an orgy of violence against the black community in 1921, city officials literally went into the town library and removed all reference to the mass killings in the Greenwood district from the papers with a razor blade—an excising of truth and an assault on memory that would remain unchanged for over seventy years.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment

Here’s part 3 of Tim Wise’s Article!
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So that’s the truth of the matter: Wright made one comment that is highly arguable, but which has also been voiced by white America’s favorite black man, another that was horribly misinterpreted and stripped of all context, and then another that was demonstrably accurate. And for this, he is pilloried and made into a virtual enemy of the state; for this, Barack Obama may lose the support of just enough white folks to cost him the Democratic nomination, and/or the Presidency; all of it, because Jeremiah Wright, unlike most preachers opted for truth. If he had been one of those “prosperity ministers” who says Jesus wants nothing so much as for you to be rich, like Joel Osteen, that would have been fine. Had he been a retread bigot like Falwell was, or Pat Robertson is, he might have been criticized, but he would have remained in good standing and surely not have damaged a Presidential candidate in this way. But unlike Osteen, and Falwell, and Robertson, Jeremiah Wright refused to feed his parishioners lies.
What Jeremiah Wright knows, and told his flock—though make no mistake, they already knew it—is that 9/11 was neither the first, nor worst act of terrorism on American soil. The history of this nation for folks of color, was for generations, nothing less than an intergenerational hate crime, one in which 9/11s were woven into the fabric of everyday life: hundreds of thousands of the enslaved who died from the conditions of their bondage; thousands more who were lynched (as many as 10,000 in the first few years after the Civil War, according to testimony in the Congressional Record at the time); millions of indigenous persons wiped off the face of the Earth. No, to some, the horror of 9/11 was not new. To some it was not on that day that “everything changed.” To some, everything changed four hundred years ago, when that first ship landed at what would become Jamestown. To some, everything changed when their ancestors were forced into the hulls of slave ships at Goree Island and brought to a strange land as chattel. To some, everything changed when they were run out of Northern Mexico, only to watch it become the Southwest United States, thanks to a war of annihilation initiated by the U.S. government. To some, being on the receiving end of terrorism has been a way of life. Until recently it was absolutely normal in fact.
But white folks have a hard time hearing these simple truths. We find it almost impossible to listen to an alternative version of reality. Indeed, what seems to bother white people more than anything, whether in the recent episode, or at any other time, is being confronted with the recognition that black people do not, by and large, see the world like we do; that black people, by and large, do not view America as white people view it. We are, in fact, shocked that this should be so, having come to believe, apparently, that the falsehoods to which we cling like a kidney patient clings to a dialysis machine, are equally shared by our darker-skinned compatriots.
This is what James Baldwin was talking about in his classic 1972 work, No Name in the Street, wherein he noted:
“White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded—about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac.”

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 4:16 pm Link to this comment

Here’s part 2 of Tim Wise article!
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He noted that we killed far more people, far more innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than were killed on 9/11 and “never batted an eye.” That this statement is true is inarguable, at least amongst sane people. He is correct on the math, he is correct on the innocence of the dead (neither city was a military target), and he is most definitely correct on the lack of remorse or even self-doubt about the act: sixty-plus years later most Americans still believe those attacks were justified, that they were needed to end the war and “save American lives.”
But not only does such a calculus suggest that American lives are inherently worth more than the lives of Japanese civilians (or, one supposes, Vietnamese, Iraqi or Afghan civilians too), but it also ignores the long-declassified documents, and President Truman’s own war diaries, all of which indicate clearly that Japan had already signaled its desire to end the war, and that we knew they were going to surrender, even without the dropping of atomic weapons. The conclusion to which these truths then attest is simple, both in its basic veracity and it monstrousness: namely, that in those places we committed premeditated and deliberate mass murder, with no justification whatsoever; and yet for saying that I will receive more hate mail, more hostility, more dismissive and contemptuous responses than will those who suggest that no body count is too high when we’re the ones doing the killing. Jeremiah Wright becomes a pariah, because, you see, we much prefer the logic of George Bush the First, who once said that as President he would “never apologize for the United States of America. I don’t care what the facts are.”
And Wright didn’t say blacks should be singing “God Damn America.” He was suggesting that blacks owe little moral allegiance to a nation that has treated so many of them for so long as animals, as persons undeserving of dignity and respect, and which even now locks up hundreds of thousands of non-violent offenders (especially for drug possession), even while whites who do the same crimes (and according to the data, when it comes to drugs, more often in fact), are walking around free. His reference to God in that sermon was more about what God will do to such a nation, than it was about what should or shouldn’t happen. It was a comment derived from, and fully in keeping with, the black prophetic tradition, and although one can surely disagree with the theology (I do, actually, and don’t believe that any God either blesses or condemns nation states for their actions), the statement itself was no call for blacks to turn on America. If anything, it was a demand that America earn the respect of black people, something the evidence and history suggests it has yet to do.
Finally, although one can certainly disagree with Wright about his suggestion that the government created AIDS to get rid of black folks—and I do, for instance—it is worth pointing out that Wright isn’t the only one who has said this. In fact, none other than Bill Cosby (oh yes, that Bill Cosby, the one white folks love because of his recent moral crusade against the black poor) proffered his belief in the very same thing back in the early ‘90s in an interview on CNN, when he said that AIDS may well have been created to get rid of people whom the government deemed “undesirable” including gays and racial minorities.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 4:14 pm Link to this comment

This long piece, by Tim Wise, belongs squarely under this thread. Only people with strong minds and a strong attachment to truth will be able to read read all of it. Here’s part 1:
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March 18, 2008
Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama and the Unacceptability of Truth
Of National Lies and Racial America
By TIM WISE

For most white folks, indignation just doesn’t wear well. Once affected or conjured up, it reminds one of a pudgy man, wearing a tie that may well have fit him when he was fifty pounds lighter, but which now cuts off somewhere above his navel and makes him look like an idiot.
Indignation doesn’t work for most whites, because having remained sanguine about, silent during, indeed often supportive of so much injustice over the years in this country—the theft of native land and genocide of indigenous persons, and the enslavement of Africans being only two of the best examples—we are just a bit late to get into the game of moral rectitude. And once we enter it, our efforts at righteousness tend to fail the test of sincerity.
But here we are, in 2008, fuming at the words of Pastor Jeremiah Wright, of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago—occasionally Barack Obama’s pastor, and the man whom Obama credits with having brought him to Christianity—for merely reminding us of those evils about which we have remained so quiet, so dismissive, so unconcerned. It is not the crime that bothers us, but the remembrance of it, the unwillingness to let it go—these last words being the first ones uttered by most whites it seems whenever anyone, least of all an “angry black man” like Jeremiah Wright, foists upon us the bill of particulars for several centuries of white supremacy.
But our collective indignation, no matter how loudly we announce it, cannot drown out the truth. And as much as white America may not be able to hear it (and as much as politics may require Obama to condemn it) let us be clear, Jeremiah Wright fundamentally told the truth.
Oh I know that for some such a comment will seem shocking. After all, didn’t he say that America “got what it deserved” on 9/11? And didn’t he say that black people should be singing “God Damn America” because of its treatment of the African American community throughout the years?
Well actually, no he didn’t.
Wright said not that the attacks of September 11th were justified, but that they were, in effect, predictable. Deploying the imagery of chickens coming home to roost is not to give thanks for the return of the poultry or to endorse such feathered homecoming as a positive good; rather, it is merely to note two things: first, that what goes around, indeed, comes around—a notion with longstanding theological grounding—and secondly, that the U.S. has indeed engaged in more than enough violence against innocent people to make it just a tad bit hypocritical for us to then evince shock and outrage about an attack on ourselves, as if the latter were unprecedented.

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By Thomas Richards, March 30, 2008 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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James Meeks – an Illinois state senator, pastor of one of the largest churches in the state and a declared Spiritual Adviser for Obama – came under fire for comments rebroadcast last week calling white American mayors “slave masters” and referring to black preachers and politicians who “protect” the “white man” as “house n-ggers.”

“We don’t have slave masters, we got mayors,” Meeks said in an August 2006 sermon broadcast on a Chicago community television channel.
Aside from his senatorial duties, Meeks is an Illinois Superdelegate pledged to Obama and also presides over Salem Baptist Church, described as the largest church in Illinois.


In 2006, Meeks informed his church during a sermon he may run for Illinois governor. He was recorded telling the mostly black congregation any “white Christian” who doesn’t vote for him is a “racist.” Speaking from his pulpit Meeks said, “if I don’t have every white Christian vote in the state of Illinois, I will stand on top of the Sears Tower and call every one of y’all racist.”

Meeks is also notorious for his strong anti-homosexual platform, although Obama is campaigning for the “gay” vote. Meeks has routinely voted against pro-homosexual legislation and has been quoted during sermons referring to same-sex attraction “an evil sickness.”

Obama told the Sun-Times that he is an attendee of Meeks’ Salem Baptist Church for Wednesday night Bible Study.

According to Illinois State Board of Elections records, Rezko’s businesses, Rezmar Corp. and Rezko Concession, contributed to Meeks’ campaign funds.

A recent Meeks endorsement is touted on Obama’s campaign website.

Here is how James Meeks and his relationship with Obama were described in a 2004 Men’s News Daily report during Obama’s 2004 US Senate campaign:
Obama’s closest religious advisers—Fr. (Michael) Pfleger, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ, and Illinois State Sen. James Meeks, who moonlights as the pastor of Chicago’s Salem Baptist Church – may have quotes from Scripture always handy, but are theologically closer to Karl Marx and black nationalism, than to Christianity.

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

Religion and money go hand in hand, why do you find that surprising? 

Your association with Obama to Rezko, may be similar to your connection him to Wright, not accurate and out of context.

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 11:38 am Link to this comment

Abraham Lincolin, a Republican said the difference between the two political parties is very subtle, he equated both parties as two drunks fighting in the street and when the fight was over they had each others coats on.

Interesting thought, forms a picture in the minds eye.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 11:24 am Link to this comment

I like Lyle Lovett’s song.
That’s no lady, Thats my wife.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

Great post

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 10:36 am Link to this comment

Defining the attitude of a winner?  Sure you could conjure up your definition for me.
Using the cyrena post has little meaning in the reality of anyone else’s opinion except hers, you should know that.  Everyone of our posted opinions are just that, opinions to agree or disagree with as we please.  By the way that includes your opinions also. 

Just like the Wright blitz, now your association of opinion has become an argument in your mind, of course the Hillary side is not devisive and right not just Wright. 

If indeed you premise is correct about the blue-collar folks, our country is worthy in degrees of Wright’s blunt truths. My opinion even if Obama wins.

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By bert, March 30, 2008 at 10:09 am Link to this comment

Geez Leefeller. I thought you would get that.

Rev. Wright says gd white America and the chickens came home to roost for white America and he preaches and his church supports black liberation theology.

Don’t you think its just a little itsy-bitsy teenie weenie hypocritical to then build a white elite style mansion and go live among the dirty rich white elite rich man neighborhood that you ranted about for so long?

Especially when all those poor people living in run down houses in Obama’s old IL state senate district, and I might add, much of Rev. Wright’s church neighborhood are still living in the slums that Obama friend Rezko took millons of tax payer dollars to upgrade and didn’t. Gee, think he could help those people who REALLY need it instead of lining his pockets and living in wealth after ranting about American not helping AA.

By their actions shall you know them.

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By Lee, March 30, 2008 at 8:38 am Link to this comment

In response to your request for enlightenment ...

We are not electing the president of the local Chamber of Commerce here ... we’re electing the next President of the United States of America! A person who could determine the future of this planet, and everyone on it! Therefore, any long-standing, important associations, or beliefs held by the nominee, or his self proclaimed advisors, mentors, etc. are crucial.

Obama’s 20 year association, and his family’s association with Pastor Wright, who has preached anti-American, racist beliefs, and honored one of the worst racists in America, has consistently talked against whites, the middle class value system, mixing with whites, materialism, as well as individuals getting special treatment, while the rest of their community struggles.

Well, guess what? For Pastor Wright to act in a way which goes against what he’s preached for 20 years, puts his credibility in question. And for Obama to embrace Wright and his values for 20 years, puts Obama’s credibility in question.

We don’t know a whole lot about Obama, except what HE tells us about who he is. One of the biggest thing he’s told us is that Wright was not only his Pastor for 20 years ... but also his mentor, advisor, source of his books title ... etc..
Just because it’s now politically expedient to disavow Wright, doesn’t mean his relationship with Wright, and what Wright stands for, isn’t still an extremely important consideration. So far, who Obama is ... who Wright is ... and the extent of their relationship has not been answered to the satisfaction of the majority of American people ... that’s why this issue is not simply going away.

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By bert, March 30, 2008 at 8:29 am Link to this comment

Reply to Leefeller et al.

Republicans run campaigns as a business with the intent to win.  Democrats run campaigns as a crusade, with the intent to purge the party of the non-believers or right past wrongs or to convert people to Democratic values.

Proof: Since 1891
Republican presidents: McKinley, T Roosevelt, Taft, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2

Democratic Presidents: Wilson, F. Roosevelt, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton

60% Republican VS 40% Democratic

“As Joe in Maine so eloquently wrote on a different thread:

cyrena writes, “Your post has me bragging again, on how smart we all are. I love it when folks know the truth and acknowledge it, no matter how ugly it may be.”

That’s not the attitude of a winner. It stinks like the liberal elitist you are. That very attitude is going to do more to defeat Obama than any 527 group ad showing Obama without his hand over his heart or any 30-second clip of Rev. Wright pleading for God to Damn America. (What makes us think he hasn’t?)

That attitude does far more harm than you realize. Want to know why Obama does poorly with voters that make less than $50,000 a year? Just get a few ‘real people’ in a room and give them your best cyrena rant. Tell THEM how smart you Obamabots are and how they just don’t get it.

It’s the belief in something too big for you to really understand. Give them a 37-minute lecture in your best constitutional law professor language about how we need to come together so as to distract you from the fact that I never answer any tough questions, how I’ve never been tested against a strong republican opponent. See how many of them stand up inspired with hope and ready to vote for change.”

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By Bill Blackolive, March 30, 2008 at 8:28 am Link to this comment
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on this one, because organised religion is this idiotic attempt by caged humans to believe Spirit can be organized, like Earth’s Ocean or space or eternity or infinity of dimension.

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By lib in texas, March 30, 2008 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

No Wright is not running for pres but someone whom Wright is a MENTOR to, is running.  There in lies the PROBLEM which I know your blinded eyes and simple mind can’t see.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 8:14 am Link to this comment

Actually it is a 50 50 split on the ethnicity’s of the Odyssey country club, he does have 2 lots and no one else on the street

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 8:10 am Link to this comment

Just a reminder, Wright is not running for president.  If he is given a house for some reason by his church, you feel the crushing need to mention in a white neighborhood, has anything to do with the presidential campaign. Please enlighten me.

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By bert, March 30, 2008 at 7:59 am Link to this comment

You are both so right.

Check out the real Hillary media story at the link below.

And lib in TX, sorry I mis-typed your name in an earlier reply post. :(

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/28/113427/656

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By bert, March 30, 2008 at 7:54 am Link to this comment

Re: WHO’S THE RACIST?
    “Well and good but he should practice what he preaches,Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.”

No “Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.” in that million dollar home in a classy white neighborhood that his church some how paid for.

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 7:51 am Link to this comment

Bigotry, from hate to scared, is one division that so supports status quo.

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By bert, March 30, 2008 at 7:48 am Link to this comment

Thank you for talking about Anthony Bradley. I have never mentioned him here at TD, but I have wanted to.

OBTW - wonderful, great even, comeback to Cyrena. I love to hear the soind of hammer meeting head of a nail.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

I do agree with you on that point,I wouldn’t be surprised if they are not running as they try to fire.Im having that visual right now,kind of funny..There is a video out there ,on youtube, I think, of an insurgent using a 60mm until he tries to get 2 in the tube, then well you can picture the outcome..

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By AnAmericaninGermany, March 30, 2008 at 7:45 am Link to this comment

Seems to me.. you are ALL scared of whichever person has an opposite opinion or experience than your own.
To classify the “white” or “black” or “gay” or whatever experience as a general path that all people of that group have taken is not only ludicrous, it is self defeting.

Get it together people…

united we stand, divided we fall… and boy… are we divided

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By Leefeller, March 30, 2008 at 7:41 am Link to this comment

Great post Fadel Abdallah,

It is even more than ignorance, indignations covered in lies is a large part of U.S.  At home and around the world. 

What astounds me, is controlled and manipulated people of U.S. constantly vote against themselves, being fed a constant diet of lies, enhancing ignorance boosted by indignation. 

So we have the “pudgy man, wearing a tie that may well have fit him when he was fifty pounds lighter”

Astuteness requires comprehension, sadly most are incapable of either.

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By bert, March 30, 2008 at 7:40 am Link to this comment

Both excellent and true points. Right on.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 7:37 am Link to this comment

I am me. I dont worship at the feet of Obama ,or Hillary on McCain. I just get a kick out of all your rantings,  your criticism of every thing that is not in line with your Naziesque(made this word up) thinking, is just another way of being racist, yet it is the worse kind “you dont even see it”.  I can only try and imagine how many people you have sent to the other side. Almost everything you spew out is very informative, although boring at times, but if there is any disagreement with your thought process, you immediately go into the name calling mode. If you dont take BLT or any religion seriously you cant be in line with Obama way of thinking. He takes his BLT very seriously, I on the other hand take my BLY on wheat with a little mayo. My racist bent, why dont you take a look at Anthony Bradley, I’m sure you will Google him, read about him, then try to tell us he is either an uncle Tom, or you have know about him for years, and he is just not worthy of your comments….That’s right he preaches against victim hood, and that is what BLT is all about, but you wouldn’t know about that would ya….and if you knew me you would say, wait he cant be a racist, but your tactic is label someone a racist as you did in your reply and most of your clones will say the same thing. The other thing I noticed is you have the thinking that everyone is out to bring down Obama because he is black, I think some people are out to bring him down because he is just a politician, what is really scary is your accusations of Maani being Hinnis, and Bert being someone else like o=an old woman or something, is your senility kicking in, you hearing voices? setting an extra plate at the table, when no one is there? Maybe it’s a medical condition…

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2008 at 7:19 am Link to this comment

Here’s a consciousness white American telling the truth about racism in America! Just a few paragraphs from an article by Tim Wise entitled, “Whites Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son.” This article originally appeared in “lip”.
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Of National Lies and Racial America
By TIM WISE

For most white folks, indignation just doesn’t wear well. Once affected or conjured up, it reminds one of a pudgy man, wearing a tie that may well have fit him when he was fifty pounds lighter, but which now cuts off somewhere above his navel and makes him look like an idiot.
Indignation doesn’t work for most whites, because having remained sanguine about, silent during, indeed often supportive of so much injustice over the years in this country—the theft of native land and genocide of indigenous persons, and the enslavement of Africans being only two of the best examples—we are just a bit late to get into the game of moral rectitude. And once we enter it, our efforts at righteousness tend to fail the test of sincerity.
But here we are, in 2008, fuming at the words of Pastor Jeremiah Wright, of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago—occasionally Barack Obama’s pastor, and the man whom Obama credits with having brought him to Christianity—for merely reminding us of those evils about which we have remained so quiet, so dismissive, so unconcerned. It is not the crime that bothers us, but the remembrance of it, the unwillingness to let it go—these last words being the first ones uttered by most whites it seems whenever anyone, least of all an “angry black man” like Jeremiah Wright, foists upon us the bill of particulars for several centuries of white supremacy.
But our collective indignation, no matter how loudly we announce it, cannot drown out the truth. And as much as white America may not be able to hear it (and as much as politics may require Obama to condemn it) let us be clear, Jeremiah Wright fundamentally told the truth.
Oh I know that for some such a comment will seem shocking. After all, didn’t he say that America “got what it deserved” on 9/11? And didn’t he say that black people should be singing “God Damn America” because of its treatment of the African American community throughout the years?
Well actually, no he didn’t.
Wright said not that the attacks of September 11th were justified, but that they were, in effect, predictable. Deploying the imagery of chickens coming home to roost is not to give thanks for the return of the poultry or to endorse such feathered homecoming as a positive good; rather, it is merely to note two things: first, that what goes around, indeed, comes around—a notion with longstanding theological….

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 7:08 am Link to this comment

Libs can’t go after Bush. They call him the dumb one ,,hahahaha he has beaten every liberal item since he got in. Who is the idiot.

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By lib in texas, March 30, 2008 at 7:00 am Link to this comment

Well said.  MSNBC has taken down their e-mail address’s so you can’t even complain.  Me thinks there have been LOTS of complaints.

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By lib in texas, March 30, 2008 at 6:50 am Link to this comment

Where does such hate come from?  Have the Clinton’s personally done something to you ?  The ones you need to get after is the Bush regime!!!

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By Jack, March 30, 2008 at 6:49 am Link to this comment
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In the USA if you are half -black you are considered Black.  Every African-American has a percentage of European ancestry due the the sexual exploitation of Black women during and after slavery. S0me Blacks have a small percentage of Native- American and European ancestry.  The recent PBS series African -American lives showed this.  The show demonstrated that nearly all Blacks have 15-40 percent European ancestry.  Due to this rule (one drop) there are no white people named Washington or Jefferson. These two presidents had children with their slave women and whites back in those days did not want to be mistaken for one of his Black children which would have open them up to racism, loss of income, rejection , lynchings etc. This tradition of white men impregnating/raping Black women continued till modern times (Strom Thurmon). It is interesting and surprising that he actually kept in touch with her but white men having such superior status would never be questioned by society.

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By omop, March 30, 2008 at 6:06 am Link to this comment

The old adage attributed to a native - american is the most oertinent and appropriate way to communicate the point that anyone who has never been judged or considered or treated habitually in a manner reflecting a bias, prejudice or the petultimate state of being a slave or the equivalent a pet of the white race… will never really know what racism is all about.

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 11:48 pm Link to this comment

WHO thinks the Black Liberation Theology is a serious religion?

PERSONALLY, I don’t take ANY religion ‘seriously’.

I respect what these three thousand or so religions of the world mean to the people who practice them, but I don’t personally HAVE a ‘religion’ or otherwise espouse one for MYSELF!!

So jimmyjam, are you just another paid troll? You sound like a fox noise apprentice. So, did you take over for Waxman, or…let me think…

Well, there have been so many of you, I can’t remember. That’s how cookie-cutter your mentalities are. Do you and mensa member “share shifts”? I hear that’s really the ‘vogue’ in corporate labor now.

It’s almost too bad that truthdig is such a “free speech” liberally oriented site. You wouldn’t be able to post this shit on most sites.

And, you’d never get away with these personal attacks.

Fortunately, your racist bent is visible, and nobody is fooled beyond the first couple of posts.

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 11:39 pm Link to this comment

•  “Many feel that the Republican party has bet its ascendency on utilizing stereotypes, resentment and fear, especially in capturing southern states.”

It’s true ocjim. And thanks for the entire post. (I had to gag through the part from Foxnoisians, but hey…it was better than having to watch it first hand).

Still, this tactic of employing the stereotypes and the fears associated with them is of course, (as you say) NOT NEW. And, while it may ‘especially’ effect the southern states, it’s also gonna grab ANY OTHER individual or group of society, that has been rendered ignorant by the way our society has intentionally (or unintentionally) been structured from the beginning.

In other words, anybody who has been left uneducated and/or otherwise unexposed to the realities that would DISPEL these stereotypes, (and prevent them from being perpetrated) can and will likely fall victim to the tactics.

They ONLY see, hear, experience what the media puts out there. OR, they have (as Obama mentioned) SOME legitimate fears. Such as crime ridden neighborhoods that often include black people. They don’t know or understand WHY these neighborhoods that suffer high crime rates might involve more black folks, and they don’t have the opportunities to compare or otherwise recognize that the same crimes, (or worse) are perpetrated by an equal or larger number of whites.

The fact is that far too many Americans simply live out their days without ever really experiencing the realities, and so they have nothing more to base anything on, aside from the stereotypes that these media hate mongers stir up.

Still, these tactics of the FOXES remain dangerous. What they actually amount to, is the 21st Century version of what creates a lynch mob, OR WORSE. It’s a matter of hysteria building, playing on and off of visceral human gut emotion that is totally divorced from reason and logic.

Far too many examples of this can be found in the many occasions of lynchings and race riots of history. Matter of fact, one excellent book that provides what could even be called (for lack of a better term) a MODEL, for exactly how to stir this up, is James Hirsch’s “Riot and Remembrance; The Tulsa Race War and Its Legacy.”

I hate admitting that I was never even AWARE of this tragic event until I was grown..not until probably 12 or 15 years ago. And, this was right here in the heart of the USA, as recently as 1921.

From the jacket..”On a warm night in May, 1921, thousands of whites, many deputized by the local police swarmed through the Greenwood section of Tulsa, OK, killing scores of blacks, looting, and ultimately burning the neighborhood to the ground. In the aftermath, as many as 300 were dead, and 6,000 Greenwood residents were herded into detention camps.”

“Tulsa’s Establishment and many victims strove to forget the events of 1921, destroying records pertaining to he riot, and refusing even to talk about it.”

There have of course, been many other such occasions. For the most part, this will continue, aided and abetted by republicans and other folks who perpetrate the resentment and the hate on the uninformed who have no idea of the foundation of their fears or prejudices.

That’s why KNOWLEDGE and Acknowledgement are so urgently needed to deal with this deadly issue of racism.

It doesn’t HELP – ANYBODY! (except of course the controllers who want to remain in power, by any means necessary). Divide and conquer is certainly not a new strategy.

So goes Fox Lies and other politicians.

Knowledge is the first step in the cure of fear.

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By Leefeller, March 29, 2008 at 8:59 pm Link to this comment

While you guys are applying for jobs with the military complex, we have Wright running for president, at least according to the Hillary crowd. 

My only hope is the Clintons will run for governor of New York, and promote the spritzer whore houses, with as little class, as as the Clinton’s can muster, well then the red phone could become an icon of prestigious ill-repute.

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By ocjim, March 29, 2008 at 8:58 pm Link to this comment

Reagan used the resentment against civil rights and affirmative action to paint blacks as welfare queens, etc. Bush II just neglected and ignored all of the poor and vulnerable. The radical right exploits the vestiges still there.

The radical right media has strafed the Obama campaign, including Fox TV News (Noise, according to Keith Olberman) and those of the Rush Limbaugh stripe. Their spurious and racist comments and images are designed to ambush their willing audiences with a fear/resentment-inspired negative image of Obama and his campaign.

Youtube has compiled a sample of the most recent Fox News videos and quotes from commentators like O’Reilly, Hannity, and a number of minion FoxNoiseians, giving real statements and the fear or stereotype.
 
Examples: 1) The reason he (Obama) is considered such a big deal is because he is a black candidate, obviously using resentment against affirmative action. 2)Half of the kids under five years old are minorities. Black folks having babies without being married.It suggests indiscriminate breeding of Blacks and relates to the underlying engenics issue of spreading inferior genes. 3)Look what they did with the Dome. They turned it into a ghetto. This excuses Katrina neglect of black victims. Blacks seen as a culpable destructive, even criminal element, maybe even deserving. 4)They will get up every day and kill someone and have chicken at KFC. Lawlessness of Blacks and favorite food stereotype. 5)Obama’s middle name is Hussein. He is a Muslim. Association with al Quaeda and extremists. 6)Trinity Church in Chicago is where Obama calls home. Are they worshipping Christ? They are cultish. Involves association with unfamiliar religion, including Islam.

The stereotypes and the fears associated with them have been real in American culture for many years. Many feel that the Republican party has bet its ascendency on utilizing stereotypes, resentment and fear, especially in capturing southern states. Resentment of LBJ’s Great Society and the civil rights movement of the 1960’s gave the new conservative movement a common cause and a rallying cry.

People have become weary with cries of racism, but vestiges have always been there. The adjectives to describe Black people have not changed too much since the 1930s, including lazy, superstitious, ignorant, loud, poor and criminal. Mocking black language is also a favorite demonization method, something already used by Karl Rove in the Wall Street Journal, relating Obama to rap, trash-talk, basketball, and laziness.

Media’s contribution includes television depicting blacks as poor nearly twice as often as the true incidence: actually account for 29 percent of poor but are depicted as poor in excess of 50 percent of cases, and lawlessness is often associated with blacks in cop shows. According to Lawrence Grossman, former president of CBS News and PBS, TV newscasts “disproportionately show African-Americans under arrest, living in slums, on welfare, and in need of help from the community.”

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By PatrickHenry, March 29, 2008 at 8:17 pm Link to this comment

You give the insurgents too much credit fighting with cutting edge U.S. crew served weapons within a range that troops can respond to within 15 minutes.

Insurgents fire a few rounds they carry and flee alone as fast as they can on foot.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/artillery/mortars/soltam_60mm/Mortar_60mm.html

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