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Posted on Mar 24, 2008

By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON—Four thousand.

When U.S. military deaths in Iraq hit a round number, as happened Sunday, there’s usually a week or so of intense focus on the war—its bogus rationale, its nebulous aims, its awful consequences for the families of the dead. Not likely this time, though. The nation is too busy worrying about more acute crises, some of them real—the moribund housing market, the teetering financial system, the flagging economy—and some of them manufactured, such as the shocking revelation that race can still be a divisive issue in American society.

So the fact that 4,000 men and women serving in the U.S. armed forces have been killed in Iraq is somehow less compelling than the zillionth playing of snippets from a sermon that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright preached more than six years ago.

For now, that is: Sooner or later, attention is bound to turn back to the war and the stark choice voters will face in November.

It may happen sooner. A few weeks ago, it looked as if Iraq might be entering another cycle of headline-grabbing violence. Now, the increase in mayhem is clear. On Sunday alone, more than 60 people were killed in several incidents, including a car bombing. Insurgents even sent rockets crashing into Baghdad’s ostensibly secure Green Zone, a rare occurrence. While the violence hasn’t risen to the levels at this time a year ago, when the country seemed to be coming apart, it is clear that both civilian and military deaths are on the rise.

Dick Cheney, who long ago told us that the insurgency was “in the last throes, if you will,” was asked last week about polls showing that two-thirds of Americans don’t think the fight in Iraq is worth it. Cheney’s response: “So?”

At least Cheney was being candid, if breathtakingly arrogant. He and George W. Bush have never cared what the American people might think about this elective war. A little bamboozling was necessary at the beginning—overblown claims about weapons of mass destruction, mushroom clouds and being “greeted as liberators” by smiling Iraqi children. Once that hurdle was surmounted, and once Saddam Hussein’s government had been destroyed, there was essentially nothing anyone could do to force the Bush administration to bring the war to an end.

Let me revise that, since on three counts it’s not quite accurate. First, the war did end once, an occasion Bush marked nearly five years ago in his “Mission Accomplished” speech; according to Agence France-Presse, 97 percent of the 4,000 U.S. military deaths in Iraq came after Bush stood on the deck of that aircraft carrier and declared major combat operations over. Second, we keep calling this conflict a war but it’s really an occupation, though the Bush administration doesn’t like to use that word; it must not test well with focus groups. Third, the American people did what they could by snatching control of Congress from the Republicans. But even if Democrats in the House had the political will to end the occupation by cutting off funding, they don’t have the 60 votes they would need in the Senate.

That’s how we arrived at 4,000. And from the way John McCain talks, there’s no telling what round-number milestones we’d have to mark if he were to become president.

On Iraq, McCain vows to continue the occupation as long as it takes for the United States to win. Like Bush and Cheney, he is quick to define any kind of withdrawal as defeat—but he makes no real attempt to describe what victory would look like. He at least realizes that the repressive and ambitious government of Iran has been the real beneficiary of the Bush administration’s blundering in Iraq—but the way he talks about Iran is just plain frightening.

The 71-year-old McCain’s recent misstatement that al-Qaida terrorists were being aided by the Iranian regime—quickly corrected by Sen. Joseph Lieberman in a whispered aside—might have been just a senior moment. Or it might have reflected an intention to do something precipitous about Iran’s growing stature in the region. Either way, scary.

It’s understandable that Americans are riveted by the most exciting presidential nomination campaign in decades. It’s natural that they’re worried about the shrinking value of their homes and their 401(k) plans. Come the fall, though, they’re going to have to decide on Iraq: Bring the troops home, as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton both say they will do. Or keep them in, as McCain pledges—and watch the numbers continue to rise.

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

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By cyrena, March 26 at 1:27 pm #
(4164 comments total)

Few Big Lies: Not Handling Iraq Truth
By Nat Parry
March 26, 2008

With the Iraq War entering its sixth year and the U.S. death toll now surpassing 4,000, it has become fashionable – and rather convenient – to claim that no one prior to the invasion five years ago could have foreseen what a bloody disaster the war would turn out to be.

Typical is a recent article by Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter John Burns, published in the New York Times a few days before the fifth anniversary of the U.S. invasion.

“Back in 2003,” he wrote, “only the most prescient could have guessed that … the toll would include tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed, as well as nearly 4,000 American troops.”

Burns goes on to marvel over the fact that there are now “a million or more Iraqis living as refugees in neighboring Arab countries,” suggesting that this too, was utterly unpredictable.

But while it may now be conventional wisdom to claim that the war’s bloody and tragic toll was unforeseen, it is not, in fact, true.
In the months leading up to the invasion, independent journalists and international organizations tried to highlight the potential human costs, while tens of millions of ordinary people marched in cities across the world in a desperate attempt to stop the war before it started.

Central to the pleas for peace was the argument that any attack on Iraq would necessarily involve needless deaths of Iraqi civilians and that the Bush administration’s primary argument for invading – Iraq’s alleged possession of WMD – was unsubstantiated and possibly unfounded.

International organizations and well-respected NGOs also highlighted the likely human costs of a war, including its inevitable civilian casualties and the potential displacement of countless Iraqis.

Warnings Ignored

Continued at the link.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/2008/032608b.html

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By Paul_GA, March 26 at 6:56 am #
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Marshall, what I'm advocating...

...is a realistic foreign policy, one that recognizes that the USA is not powerful enough to solve the world’s problems, and that it has more than enough on its plate to solve domestically (like the tanking economy, for instance).

“Pacifist”? I happen to be a gun owner who owns an “assault weapon” and believes strongly in self-defense. But I also believe in Just War, and I define Just War only two ways---(a) wars of national defense against a foreign invader, and (b) wars of national liberation against either a foreign occupier or a home-grown dictator.

I subscribe to the foreign-policy formula of Thomas Jefferson, from his 1st inaugural address: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.” So please don’t refer to me as an “isolationist”, either. Isolationism is like Albania under Hoxha, or North Korea under the Kims, not like the neutrality the Founders wanted for this country.

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By bob brendle, March 26 at 6:40 am #
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Street

The street you live on leads to that white house on the hill.

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By Trigger finger, March 26 at 3:54 am #
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How many Dead?

4000 DEAD? Come on, you got to be kidding me! I thought it was only like 16 or so?  I mean that’s all the flag draped coffins I saw?  Are you sure, 4000?  That’s a lot! Gee’s that can’t be right.  I turn on the news at least twice a week and I never saw anything about 4000 dead, or any dead for that matter! Think about it, that can’t be right because combat operations in Iraq ended in about 2003 I think the President said.

4000? I can’t even count that high! Thats impossible!

You better get your facts straight before you say 4000 dead!  Or, is that just a joke?

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By Outraged, March 26 at 12:32 am #
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Thank you Eugene.

“At least Cheney was being candid, if breathtakingly arrogant. He and George W. Bush have never cared what the American people might think about this elective war. A little bamboozling was necessary at the beginning—overblown claims about weapons of mass destruction, mushroom clouds and being “greeted as liberators” by smiling Iraqi children. Once that hurdle was surmounted, and once Saddam Hussein’s government had been destroyed, there was essentially nothing anyone could do to force the Bush administration to bring the war to an end.”

And I did see you “revised” that.  Problem is… we’ll, or more accurately “they’ll” keep on revising it, until we take control of this country as a people, cut out the big corps, and begin to at least suppose to be a humane addition to the human race.

We need to stop slavery once and for all.  And the dirty little secret is, if you’re not one of the big owners---you’re one of the owned. Black, white or otherwise, those are the facts.

What do they say when your dealt a shitty hand in cards....read ‘em and weep...or play the hand you got.

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By cyrena, March 25 at 10:31 pm #
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It’s a Number
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist
Excerpts from..

You can always hear the people who are willing to sacrifice somebody else’s life. They’re plenty loud and they talk all the time. You can find them in churches and schools and newspapers and legislatures and congress. That’s their business. They sound wonderful. Death before dishonor. This ground sanctified by blood. These men who died so gloriously. They shall not have died in vain. Our noble dead. Hmmmm. But what do the dead say?
- Dalton Trumbo, “Johnny Got His Gun”

White House press secretary Tony Snow, the third man to hold that post in the Bush administration since 2001, began the June 15, 2006, noon press briefing with a few prepared remarks before opening the floor to questions from the assembled crowd of reporters. The first to speak noted, “American deaths in Iraq have reached 2,500,” before asking, “Is there any response or reaction from the president on that?”

“It’s a number,” replied Snow, “and every time there’s one of these 500 benchmarks people want something.”

As of that June day in 2006, the number of American soldiers killed in Iraq had reached “one of these 500 benchmarks” for a fifth time since the 2003 invasion. Snow’s unabashed dismissal of the grim reality that number represented was as vile as it was predictable, a perfect illustration of the administration’s cold indifference and demented priorities. It’s a number. It’s a benchmark. People want something. Next question.

On Monday, that benchmark was reached for an eighth time. Four US soldiers were killed late Sunday when their vehicle was bombed in south Baghdad, bringing the total number of American troops lost in Iraq to 4,000. It’s a number. It’s a benchmark. People want something. Next question.

“The Surge” was going to lead us out of Iraq, at first, kinda, until “The Surge” became the main argument for why we had to stay in Iraq for now, until a date to be determined later, or maybe not for another hundred years, give or take, according to a war hero who survived unimaginable torture so he could become the GOP’s presidential standard-bearer and be for the torture of anyone, anywhere, under any circumstances and in the name of America, before he was against it, as far as anyone knows, or something.

“The Surge” was keeping American soldiers safe, sort of, except for those four American soldiers who died on Monday, except for those 600 American soldiers who died during “The Surge,"…

Leave off the fact that a married couple and their three sons died when either a rocket or a mortar hit their central Baghdad home, that two people died and seven were wounded by mortars in central Baghdad, that another person died in an attack in eastern Baghdad, that six dead bodies were discovered all across Baghdad, that four Iraqi soldiers were killed while on patrol near Kirkuk, that gunmen killed a police lieutenant and wounded two other police officers in central Baquba, that a suicide car bomber killed six or more people and wounded ten in northwestern Baghdad, that a suicide truck bomber attacked an Iraqi army base and killed 13 soldiers while wounding 42 others in Mosul, that a suicide car bomber killed one soldier and wounded eight others in Mosul, that gunmen killed seven people and wounded 16 others in southern Baghdad, that a roadside bomb wounded two people in central Baghdad, that a Katyusha rocket was fired into the Green Zone, killed five people and wounde d eight in eastern Baghdad, that gunmen murdered Colonel Akram Awad al-Omairi, commander of a rapid reaction unit outside his home in the town of Abu Saida, and that a suicide car bomb killed five people and wounded 11 north of Baghdad.

That was Sunday.

Entire piece here

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032508A.shtml

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By MilwGonzo, March 25 at 6:33 pm #
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War Criminals

Assuming a Democrat wins in November (and what was once highly probable looks distressingly less so now), will Bush, Cheney and the other architects of the invasion of Iraq be brought to justice as war criminals?

It is staggering to think McCain even has a chance to win the election given his alignment with Bush and his open embrace of the prospect of decades of occupation.

Watching the Frontine titled “Bush’s War” is truly nauseating.

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By Gregorio, March 25 at 6:06 pm #
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4000 - What am I bid?

When the number went over 3000 I was affirmed in my estimate.  And I tied in the office pool with some dude who got all his news from the TV.  We got $200 each.  But many thought the surge would result in more US deaths, and wagered on the number going over 4000 in January or earlier.  I knew about Moqtada al-Sadr’s stand down, and guessed more correctly, knowing that it would take longer for our boys to achieve that number.  This time I picked up $500 on the pool.  The war’s been good to me.  I support the troops, and, like the vice-president, am happy that they are all volunteers, and hope to make money on their credulity. I’m voting for McCain or Hillary in the hopes of making close to a thousand dollars on the pool for the 5000 number.  Now that Moqtada is stirring that date should arrive far more quickly, and I hope to be pocketing some fabulous jing before the end of the year.  Go U.S.!  We’re number 1, and number 2, if you know what I mean.

Obama might spoil the whole thing since, being Wall Street’s boy, and since Wall Street is seeing the war now as bad for business (unless you’re an arms contractor or in the oil business) he might bring this fabulous revenue enhancer to a close.  Damn.

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By Muscleboy, March 25 at 3:05 pm #
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Suicides

Suicides and attempted suicides in the thousands. 

She was Army specialist Alyssa Peterson, 27, a Flagstaff, Az., native serving with C Company, 311th Military Intelligence BN, 101st Airborne.  Alyssa was an Arabic-speaking translator.  A beautiful well educated all American girl.  She died September 15th, 2003 from what the lying-pig Bush administration called a “non hostile weapons discharge.”

A local reporter from Alyssa’s community, Kevin Elston, smelled something very rotten so he filed a FOIA request trying to get the facts.

As it came out the good soul of Alyssa was too good for Bush’s profoundly evil rules of warfare.  She objected to the methods used to interrogate the people.  In fact she, as we all have been, was horrified by the techniques the Neocon psychopaths in the Bush administration required.  She thought the service to her country was honorable and dignified reflecting the best of our values.  She didn’t know the scum that would take over control of the government at the time she signed up.

Army spokespersons for her unit (called “The Cage) have refused to describe the interrogation techniques Alyssa objected to. They say all records of those techniques have now been destroyed(isn’t it illegal to destroy such records?)

About one third of the 103,788 veterans returning from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, according to a Time mag article circa march 2007, seen at Veterans Affairs facilities between September 30, 2001 and September 30, 2005 were diagnosed with mental illness or a psycho-social disorder, such as homelessness and marital problems, including domestic violence. More than half of those diagnosed, 56%, were suffering from more than one disorder. The most common combination was post-traumatic stress disorder and depression.

In January 2008 the U.S. Army reported that the rate of suicide among soldiers in 2007 was the highest since the Army started counting in 1980. There were 121 suicides in 2007, a 20% jump over the prior year. Also, there were around 2100 attempted suicides and self-injuries in 2007.  Many suicides occur after returning home which go uncounted.

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By bozhidar bob balkas, March 25 at 10:20 am #
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and domestic policies go, invasion/occupation/defacto dismemberment of i’q may be evaluated as success. h. we forgotten bombings of hironaga?  w. no sigle cause for this attrocity? can one posit even single cause for it? yes, reasons r posited but not causes. a person investigating a fire does not resonate w. reasons for it but searches for causes. finding cause(s) and removing it such a cause will never ever cause another fire. invasions r caused. war(s) r caused. r they studied anywhere? nowhere to my knowledge. we know some causes for warfare; others we can postulate; still others discover if we would study them. fear, greed, revenge, hatred, supremacism, ethnocentricity, duality of nature; of which we r part, ergo also evilgood just like it can be. this doesn’t mean that we cannot do less evil, we can. if we cannot- but first we must test it- then we r doomed to stay in perpetual anguish/fear/hatred. 
annent bush lying, one can espy that even US constitution is a lie. how else to explain slavery?
to my knowledge clerico/politico/corporate entity ( i hyphenate the 3 aspects of one entity ) had lied to amers for over a cent. that amers haven’t espied it may be due being rendered semantically blind by miseducators. same structure exist in canada and may be evrywhere; it being a panhuman trait to lie, deceive, boast, ‘promise’, evoke great perils if it dosent’t get elected. all it takes is to omit one fact to present a fictitious reality. i evaluate all or most promises as lies. and that’s the biggest part of discourse to us, the unwashed, by priests, politicians, advertisers, sellers. these people realize how much we humans desire to trust; thus, oh, so easily abused. did it matter that bush lied or told the truth? that polticos don’t say, We came to make mistakes- and mistakes they will make by hundreds, proves that they lie and know it. thanx

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By msgmi, March 25 at 9:15 am #
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Cheney et al have their sights set on the realization of the neoCON new world order by sacrificing their neighbor’s warriors who he said ‘VOLUNTEERED?’ for the mission. And 30 percent of Americans think Cheney et al are steering America in the right direction. Victory & Glory have truly clouded whatever common sense is still left. No need to worry, with McCaine in office the neoCON Victory will be a step closer with each casualty.

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By Paul_GA, March 25 at 8:03 am #
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To me, it's obvious...

...that the whole idea of American interventionist foreign policy must go the way of the dodo---no matter how “humanitarian” it may look to its advocates. This country is wearing itself to a frazzle in Iraq, and certainly, if McCain is the next president, he will reap Bush’s foul harvest: permanent decline for the USA as a major power.

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By david, March 25 at 6:22 am #
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End the War????

Hey!!!  I’ve got Halliburton and KBR stock!  Keep the war going!!!  It’s making me rich!!  What’s a few lives where money is concerned?  Besides, we’re spreadin’ FREEDOM!!  FREEDOM!!!  God’s own gift to mankind!!!  How much more noble can a cause be???  Sheesh!

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By Expat, March 25 at 4:51 am #
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Eugene, what has become apparent....

^ in the last two days are Cheney’s comments: They say it all.  When told about how the majority of Americans feel about the war; his response was, “So”.  Further; when he was asked about the 4,000 dead (it’s way higher) he said, “They volunteered.” As far as I’m concerned that says everything we need to know about the state of affairs in America.  If I say any more it will be a string of the filthiest 4 letter words in the English language; over and out!

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By Purple Girl, March 25 at 4:08 am #
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Love Ya Eugene!

I must first commend you on your spots on Countdown. Thanks for all You say (Same for Racheal and most the others who contribute greatly to the show- Except the Newsweek guy, can’t seem to shake the ‘conventional wisedom’ at times -defending Hillary’s Lies? “Misspoke’ My Ass- LYING!)
But I have been Put off by MSNBC on numerous occasions- the ‘Democratic’ Debates- False Advertising! And Not even Keith is able to hold the Can’s feet to the Fire about undue Corp interests and the Demand for Criminal Charges to be levied, in varying Sectors of our Society. Honestly I’ve come to find most Media to be PUSSIES!
Frontline’s “Bush’s War” should be the entire Media’s War Cry- It is for most of US. Which way do you ride Horseman? The Masses Are Your Bread & Butter. Choose Carefully!
Cave Adsum, my friend!

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