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‘Tibet Libre!’: Protesters March on the Eiffel Tower

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Posted on Mar 21, 2008
Tibet Libre march in Paris
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Demonstrators gather at Paris’ Trocadéro on Friday to rally for Tibetan independence from China.

By Kasia Anderson

PARIS—France’s Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner may still be questioning whether French athletes should show up at this summer’s Olympic opening ceremony in Beijing, but a throng of pro-Tibet protesters in Paris on Friday clearly had their own answer. Some 300 people rallied for Tibet at the Trocadéro as tensions with China continued to build, hoisting signs reading “Boycott the Beijing Olympics” and “China Out of Tibet” before marching through heavily trafficked tourist zones near the Eiffel Tower. 

“Today’s rally is to fight against the oppression of Tibetans by the Chinese,” said one Vietnamese demonstrator, who preferred to remain anonymous. “China cannot do anything they want in Tibet. They need the support of foreign governments,” she said, stressing that the violent clashes in Lhasa and neighboring provinces don’t just represent a problem for Tibetans; rather, “it’s a global issue.”

Friday’s march on the Eiffel Tower was organized by a group of Tibetans living in France, according to Jampal Chosang, representative for the Dalai Lama in Western Europe. Watching the demonstration from the sidelines, Chosang played down the significance of the potential Olympic boycott and called the Parisian protest “a normal thing,” noting that it was a local and spontaneous show of support. “We are not concerned about the Olympics,” he said. “It’s a side issue.”

Instead, Chosang focused on how, as he put it, the Chinese are “killing innocent people.” Referring to the Internet, he said, “the Chinese show a one-sided account. ... They show only what Tibetans are doing, not what [the Chinese] are doing,” claiming that Chinese troops have “killed 99 protesters” since last week.

Addressing reports that the Dalai Lama somehow instigated this recent spate of violence, the Vietnamese demonstrator, who came with a group of monks from France’s Khanh Anh Pagoda, insisted that the exiled Tibetan leader has endorsed a policy of nonviolence for many years. “Tibetans are against the Chinese, and sometimes they rise up. It’s normal, because they are oppressed,” she said as the gathered group began its march.

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By PatrickHenry, March 27 at 2:38 am #
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Olympics to Israel

Yes, next Olympics in Israel, then the world can take tour buses to the occupied area and look at the natives.

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By LadyDoc2007, March 26 at 9:33 pm #
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Excellent article on what happened

Washington Post, today’s article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/200 8/03/26/ST2008032603290.html

“There was no more crowd to be part of. It looked like they were turning on everybody,” said Kenwood, 19, describing the scene to reporters last week when he arrived in Kathmandu, Nepal, after 10 days in the Tibetan capital. “It wasn’t about Tibet freedom anymore.”

Hundreds of mostly young Tibetans broke up into roaming gangs and attacked Chinese passersby and vandalized shops, killing 19 people and injuring more than 600 over two days.

During the riots, looters set fire to a clothing store, burning to death five young employees who were huddled on the second floor. Most police officers kept their distance while the center of Lhasa descended into chaos.

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By Shenonymous, March 26 at 8:46 pm #
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You obviously have limited thinking powers, Douglas. Calling me dumb was stupid on your part.  I was talking about American administrations not Cuban and the attitude toward Cuba from America.

And he doesn’t need us to verify that the Dalai Lama is a holy man, his people do that. 

I gave it a try to stay our acerbic acrimony but it didn’t last very long.  You insist on being pompous and patronizing. I am not interested in enmity.  What I said stands and you can bluster all you want.

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By Shenonymous, March 26 at 3:19 pm #
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You might be right, but then again

http://secrettibet.rsfblog.org/archive/2007/01/16/h istory-of-tibet-before-the-chinese-invasion-of-1949.html
History of Tibet before the Chinese Invasion of 1949 and attempted kidnapping of Dalai Lama in 1959.
Perhaps you are right Douglas Chalmers and my understanding not as vast as apparently yours is, but the Tibetans and Chinese do not have as close a relationship as you make out.  They have completely different cultures and religions.  Conflict is noted as far back as 4000 BC.  In addition to the site noted above, also found in Wikipedia references
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet
George Van Driem and Peter Bellwood, Peter & Colin Renfrew.  Also the Tibetans inhabited the plateau about a half a million years ago.  Peace treaties have been attempted several times apparently testifies to the enmity between the two countries. The “royal” marriage to which you refer was refused by the Tibetans and the Chinese forced themselves into the culture. 

I am not sure what your defense of China is all about, and I would not mind being informed but I would appreciate more respect on your part as I am not attacking you in any way or your knowledge.

The ostensible fact that the Dalai Lama had an association with the CIA, could be credible in view of the alienation between Tibet and China and the USA and China.  You seem to imply that was a bad thing?  That China does not trust the Dalai Lama is also natural but it was brought on by their occupation of Tibet for that to have happened.  It a push-pull situation. 

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/world/jan-j une08/tibet_3-24.html

Protests Continue in Tibet segment of News Hour on March 25th. 
Donald Lopez –Univ. Michigan
Jeffrey Bader – Brookings Institution
Abraham Lustgarden - Fortune Mag.  China’s Great Train

Lopez.  Massive and economic inequalities.  Bader.  Anniversary of ignited but long term resentments about how Tibetans are ruled by Chinese. 

Lustgarden – Tibetan dominated the ethnic Tibetan.  Old historical buildings torn down, and outlying areas built up with modern Chinese building.  Promises from China of economic development but not materialized/

Lopez – Tibet and China have different language, different food, different religion, different social structure.  Tibetans never considered themselves to be Chinese, and Chinese never considered Tibetans to be Han.

Chinese wants stability and not a source of unrest.  But needs a serious dialogue with the Dalai Lama.  Chinese do not trust the Dalai Lama.  Needs a program to build the trust.  Otherwise no stability in Tibet. 

No doubt that a boycott of the Olympics by the world community will embarrass the Chinese and Tibetans will suffer as a result.  Chinese has to cease demonization of the Dalai Lama then progress may begin.

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By Shenonymous, March 26 at 1:21 pm #
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When there is a picture...

The lone Chinese man’s standoff was a media triumph, if ever there was one.  The picture of that one human being was plastered the world over.  The Chinese knew they were being watched.  However, a similar stand was taken by a lone American girl in Israel standing up for Palestinians, and she was mowed down.  Killed.  No pictures taken.  No repercussions for Israel!  So sometimes knowledge can make a difference in a larger scope, if it gets glamorous photojournalistic help.  What will change the situation today in Tibet?  The Dalai Lama has offered to talk with the Chinese but they have refused him audience.  The fact that he is a holy man ought not to be a criterion, however, to stop the decimation and appropriation of a people.  The fact that he is a man, a hu-man ought to be enough.  I do not think much can stop the reprobate China in utterly destroying Tibet.  There is no love lost between the two countries.  They have very little if anything in common.

Since I signed the petition to allow more foreign reporters in to Lhasa I wonder if the public response had anything to do with opening up that entry as reported in the BBC news today?  Signing a petition is somewhat better than just “knowing” about something that is wrong than not doing anything at all.  Most of the world simply does not know what they can do about genocide or oppression.

Boycotting the Olympics will only exacerbate the problem for Tibet.  Thinking about it was just a fantasy on my part because of the frustration of the struggle the Tibetan’s have had. The plight of the Dalai Lama is about a half century old.  Killing monks and other Tibetans is unconscionable.  Somewhere between the 19 as reported by the Chinese and the 140 said by the Tibetans whatever is the truth is that many people too many.  That mankind resorts to killing one another is a vestige of our brute and uncivilized nature. How long does it take for humanity to learn to have absolute personal regard for one another?  Now that one is a rhetorical question.

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By ender, March 26 at 11:58 am #
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Knowlege does make a difference.  When the world watched the lone Chinese man’s standoff with tanks in Tianaman Square, China was forced to back off some of it’s more restrictive policies.  It realized that the tactics of oppression may cause you to loose business partners and much needed markets.  With enough knowlege of the attrocities in Tibet that businesses and nations adjust their relations with China, change may happen before the Tibetan culture is utterly destroyed.

Peace to the World and Blessings to the Dalai Lama!  I’m opposed to most organized religion but a culture that can birth that holy man should not be wiped out by a monstrous machine like china.

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By Shenonymous, March 26 at 6:42 am #
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The consequences of mere knowledge without action

The consequences of mere knowledge without action

Not really asking rhetorically, but what does just the mere knowledge about atrocities and genocide contribute in reality to inhibit, prevent, obstruct, interrupt, terminate such from happening?  While it is slightly more than interesting, and inasmuch as most sufficient bodies of persons who are able to make a difference do not become involved, but maintain an apathy, what kind of action does such knowledge encourage or propel enough individuals to make a difference?  In otherwords, does just knowing a thing, actually do anything?  And if not, what do you think can be done to change that dilemma?

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By ender, March 26 at 4:46 am #
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http://www.boingboing.net/2007/04/23/google-china-a nd-gen.html

And so began the physical genocide. In 1950, the People’s Liberation Army “peacefully liberated” Tibet, something akin to saying that Adolf Hitler was a good friend of European Jewry. From 1950 to date, 1.2 million Tibetans have died as a result of mass slaughter, imprisonment, or starvation; 7.5 million Han Chinese have migrated into historic Tibet, now appended to Sichuan, Yunan, and Gansu provinces, and the more recently chartered province of Qinhai; over three thousand Buddhist monasteries have been razed and their cultural properties destroyed or plundered; and iconic religious leaders—the recognized figureheads of traditional Tibetan culture—have been forced into exile, imprisoned, executed, or kidnapped.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 24 at 6:57 pm #
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Clockwork Orange.......

By bozhidar bob balkas, March 23: “...one could have expected that france also would condemn china for its ‘illegal’ and immoral invasion/annexation of tibet. however, the west led by us, nearly always condemns crimes of ....israel, us, uk, italy, canada, australia...”

Jealousy! Britain made it into Tibet (invaded 1904) but France didn’t, uhh. Oh, the frailties of “settler society” and their colonial dreams.........

Now the evil twins from NATO are going to use the excuse of “build(ing) power stations that do not rely on fossil fuels” to wreck the planet permanantly.......... UK and France ‘plan nuclear deal’ - http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h97DFX3u6aPDBg uS31NkPqG21ArQ

Britain and France to take nuclear power to the world - Britain and France are to sign a deal to construct a new generation of nuclear power stations and export the technology around the world in an effort to combat climate change.

The pact is to be announced at the “Arsenal summit” next week when prime ministers Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy will meet at the Emirates stadium in north London.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/mar/22/nucl earpower.energy1?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

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By ender, March 24 at 3:16 am #
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You are being fed BS by the Chinese gov’t. How does it taste?
China has committed genocide it Tibet at the level of Stalin’s pograms during his heyday.  More than 50% of the native Tibetan population has ?disappeared? in the last 25 yrs.  Tibet is no more.  The larger tourist destination temples are manned by ‘fake monks’ of han chinese decent.  The Chinese just can’t seem to get over the fact that TIBET ACTUALLY HAS A BETTER HISTORICAL CLAIM FOR RULING CHINA, THAN CHINA DOES FOR TIBET.

As another poster suggested, our athletes should attend the games but carry Tibetan flags.

Everyone else should stay home and let the Chinese eat thier new stadiums.

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By bozhidar bob balkas, March 23 at 10:14 am #
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one could have expected that france also would condemn china for its ‘illegal’ and immoral invasion/annexation of tibet. however, the west led by us, nearly always condemns crimes of socialist empires but never or seldom crimes of the capitalistic/undemocratic empires such as israel, us, uk, italy, canada, australia, et al.
i have also predicted in ‘02 that france would eventually accept us crimes in iraq.
facts, if one will collate them, not only show but prove that chinese crimes pale in comparison with crimes commited buy us,israel,france, russia. even canada, when one takes into account our geographic position, nuclear umbrella, nato, most modern weapons, etc., is by far more bellicose than most lands.
to be sure, jingoistic point of view in canada is that canada is a peaceful land; always defending freedoms, democracies, etc. however, even a perfunctory look reveals (other facts prove)that not a single afghan has hurt to date a single canadian in any manner. just like israel and us, it also always defends; never attacking, etc. it can also be proven that neither us nor canada are democratic. if one would stay on descriptive level of events, we would easily espy that us has a unique structure of governance; extremely efficient in controlling domestic and foreign pops. canada differs only slightly from us. thank u. more could be said.

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By Chris Herz, March 22 at 3:00 pm #
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Lhasa 2008, Watts 1965

An old departed friend once owned the Shell gas station at the corner of Watts Avenue and the Freeway in LA. 

During the great riot of 1965 he witnessed the Cal Nat’l Guard station an armored car in the intersection by his station.  It fired the whole length of the avenue (over a mile) at anyone trying to cross the street with its quad .50’s.

At the end of the day hair, teeth and eyeballs everywhere.

The Chinese regime’s governor of Tibet was correct:  All governments confront resistance/rebellion from below in just the same ways.

Chris Herz
cdherz44 at yahoo dot com

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 22 at 2:27 pm #
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Full China Olympics coverage in English http://english.cri.cn/3126/2007/04/25/Zt45@220326.htm

Organizers of the Beijing Olympics said that the torch relay of this summer’s games will go ahead as planned despite concerns over security in Tibet following a recent riot in this region...... The Beijing Olympic torch will be lit by the sun’s rays in ancient Olympia, Greece, on March 24, according to the Beijing Organizing Committee for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad...

Tickets on the boycott bus? Not for me - Australia will not boycott Games: I KNOW it’s the politically correct bus to be jostling for a seat on at the moment, but I think it’s a bit rich to call on Australian athletes to boycott the Beijing Olympics in light of reports of escalated violence in the Tibetan capital Lhasa......

Australian Democrats senator Andrew Bartlett — a man I’ve held in high regard for some time — called on Australian athletes to boycott the Beijing Games in protest against China’s latest human rights abuses in Tibet. His wasn’t a lone voice, of course. Nor was his call exclusive to Australia. It was one of the oft-replayed questions asked by an American journalist of Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao at his annual media conference in Beijing this week.

No questions, mind you, about possible US or Australian trade sanctions. No questions about revoking the broadcast rights of the media outlets who’ve paid millions for them, or the possibility of banning any coverage of the Games in this country. No suggestion that our Mandarin-speaking Prime Minister should cancel his planned trip to China next month and go to Japan instead. Oh, no. None of the big wave-making stuff. Just the soft target, conscience-pricking little-ripple stuff aimed at individuals who have their once-in-four-yearly opportunity to test their sporting prowess on a world stage in a couple of months......

...a recent book on the boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics revealed then (Australian) prime minister Malcolm Fraser’s acknowledgement that his support for the boycott was wrong. Mr Fraser described the campaign to boycott the 1980 Moscow Games as bad and divisive — which is precisely what this campaign aimed at Beijing is shaping up as.

Ultimately, it is incredibly hypocritical to target our athletes and not big business or the interests of our state and federal governments. Where are the calls to stop our iron ore being shipped to China and turned into steel and shipped back here as fast as you can say “hey presto”? Where are the calls to stop Chinese ships bringing boatloads of trinkets, courtesy of the new deep-lane shipping channel being gauged into Port Phillip Bay (Melbourne)? http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/tracee-hutchison /2008/03/21/1205602653982.html?page=fullpage

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By jatihoon, March 22 at 8:42 am #
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Show Tibetian Flag

Best Revenge is no Revenge. All free loving countries athletes must go to the Olympics and show there solidarity with Tibetian people by showing Tibetian flag along with there country flag, during the Olympics “opening and closing cermonies,"along with Tibetian color arm bands. This is freedom of speech.

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By getoverit, March 22 at 8:38 am #
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Do you guys want to turn Tibet into

I don’t think any of you guys have been to Tibet personally, or you care what happens to Tibetan people. If you did, you could not have made those comments.

I visited Tibet last May, and to my surprise, most Tibetan people living in huge stone mansion like houses built by governments. You could see these houses throughout entire region with their unique colored roofs. Other ethnic groups (China has more than 50 different “races") are not so thrilled about this, but they can’t do much to influence decisions made thousands miles away in Beijing. Much like the American Indians could operate casinos, Tibetan people enjoy many “rights” other ethnic groups do not.

If you saw how many people participated in the riots, how it started (initially a march by the exiles in India to denounce Olympics), you can not help by notice the media’s bias in reporting.

To the peace loving people of the world, if you cared about truth, peace, and justice, you should read history, and digg the truth. Don’t let the media and what it fed you blind you.

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By PatrickHenry, March 22 at 7:23 am #
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Boycott

The U.S. can’t boycott the Olympics, the U.S. govt. owes China big bucks and the Chinese would be quick to point out what hypocrites the U.S. leadership is.

However, we and citizens of other countries can hurt China everytime we shop.  Be discerning.

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By John K. Fitzpatrick, March 22 at 4:10 am #
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Free Hawaii

maybe China will trade Tibet for Hawaii....

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By Chinese National, March 22 at 3:52 am #
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About boycotting Olympics

For those barking mad about boycotting Olympics and hallucinating that they somehow have this wonderful leverage to pressurize us. I would like to inform you that your bubble just burst. Sorry!

National territorial integrity is more vital than being the center of the world’s attention for two weeks. China will be upset if the Olympics were watered down by a boycott of individual athletes. BUT WE WILL GET OVER IT. WE DO NOT NEED OLYMPICS TO VALIDATE US AS A COUNTRY. If Westerners think they could lead us by the nose because of Olympics, that just reveals how ignorant they are. The reason China has this thorny problem that is Taiwan is precisely because of US intervention.  WE WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. China will NEVER bend in front of Western pressure. Never!

Quit your imperialistic ways! You have already earned an atrocious reputation for meddling in Iraq and the Middle East. Why do you want to attract more hatred towards you? Is it your nature to attract hatred?

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By Purple Girl, March 22 at 2:44 am #
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Screw the Olympics

China has a long history of human Rights violations- Perhaps WE to should consider boycotting this Olympics. Let’s hit China where it hurts (like they have US, with their cheap crap products) in the pocket book. Why should we help their economy when they have undermined Ours ( thanks to some unethical Inc’s here). I would suggest a alternative Olympics be held for the sake of the atheletes who have trained for the last 4 yrs (or more). But by not giving China the Revenues they may begin to listen to the rest of the World that their actions towards Tibet is no longer tolerable. WE should be Barring All their Products from OUR shores/stores- but of course the ‘Financial Wizards’ have left use in no position since we are now major Debtors to the Cheinese -Economic Treason which should be investigated & prosectued.They have made US Indentured Slave for their Profit making ventures!

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By Chinese National, March 22 at 1:20 am #
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Benighted Lot

The only mistake the Chinese government made in this Tibetan incident is to bar journalists from Tibet. As this gives some Western journalists the chance to basically cook up sensational reports of what they think happened in this turmoil.

There is absolutely no evidence that the Chinese government cracked down on the “protesters”. But this apparently did not prevent biased Western journalists from reporting exactly that untruth. Plus, those Tibetan monks are not demonstrators or protesters. Who can tell me whether protesters have to take long knives with their hands in your country? Do protesters have to burn shops, markets and burn a girl alive? Who can tell me whether protesters have to rob banks and hit the head of innocent people with bricks in your countries? And these protesters get portrayed as repressed victims in BBC and CNN?

I know for a long time that main stream Western media harbours extreme hostility and bias towards China. But still, this took me quite by surprise.

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By bob, March 21 at 6:14 pm #
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Me Me

Hey het

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By Shenonymous, March 21 at 5:37 pm #
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Reporting goings on in Tibet

Perhaps you did not know that all foreign journalists are being barred or expelled from Tibetan areas. Thousands of Chinese troops are inundating Tibet as China crushes the demonstrations going on in Tibet to make sure no outsiders can see.

You can speak up now to urge the Beijing 2008 Olympic Organizing Committee and the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs to obey their own laws and allow foreign journalists access to Tibet. Click here to add your name to those of us who are taking at least this action:
http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/media_freedom

Kicking out journalists reduces the information the rest of the world gets about what is really happening in Tibet, but it also removes independent witnesses, thereby giving a soldier or police officer one less reason not to use violence to suppress the protests. Tibetans know this, and are afraid: as one Tibetan in Lhasa told the BBC, “We are all very worried about the lack of western people and journalists in and around Lhasa.”

The obstruction of journalists also defies new regulations passed in 2006 that were supposed to give foreign journalists expanded freedoms in the run-up to and during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

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By QuyTran, March 21 at 4:02 pm #
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Tibet & Gaza “libre”

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 21 at 3:45 pm #
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Yeah, "libre' " - do whatever thou wilt...

“Today’s rally is to fight against the oppression of Tibetans by the Chinese,” said one Vietnamese demonstrator who preferred to remain anonymous.  “China cannot do anything they want in Tibet. They need the support of foreign governments,” she said, stressing that the violent clashes in Lhasa and neighboring provinces don’t just represent a problem for Tibetans; rather, “it’s a global issue.”

Agreed, China can’t just do anything it wants in Tibet. After all, the USA is already doing whatever it pleases in Iraq and Afghanistan. But it is ironic that people are ignoring what the Tibetans first did to the ordinary Chinese citizens living and working in Tibet. That is not being genuinely interested in human rights.

But the question of European + US interference is something that goes back to the 1800’s in China - as well as in Tibet, India and Vietnam. In the end, it was the cause of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor as their greedy manipulations of Asia backfired badly. China won’t tolerate that kind of interference ever again.

France’s Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner is a rank opportunist and, along with their president, Sarko the Neocon, they are only too willing to do whatever they can to tip things in their favor. Using unrest over the Tibet issue is only the most recent. They have already toured the Middle East selling nuclear reactors to friend and foe alike in the past few months, uhh.

A boycott of Olympics ceremony? France raises idea, then backs off - http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/19/asia/react.php - and also note the link to the article about the forthcoming elections in Taiwan.......

Ma is the front-runner, but his 20-point lead in opinion polls has dropped into single digits as opponent Frank Hsieh mounts a fierce final-stage rally. On Friday, Hsieh’s campaign unveiled a new TV ad showing Tibetan monks staging a candlelight vigil to protest the Chinese clampdown in their homeland...... “When China is cracking down on Tibet ... the Ma camp is drawing ever closer to China,” the ad says.

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