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Gore Vidal Speaks Seriously Ill of the Dead

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Posted on Mar 20, 2008
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By Gore Vidal

I can recall that day in the 1930s when a “news” (sic) magazine appeared in Washington, D.C.; it was called Newsweek: meant to be a counterbalance to Time Magazine’s uncontrollable malice. In due course the two became sadly alike as Vincent Astor morphed into Henry Luce: Was it something in the water? I once asked Henry Luce why he called Time a news magazine when it was simply Uncle Harry’s means of venting his rage (this was 1960 or so) at liberals, and “degenerate art” like the plays of Tennessee Williams—he had no answer. At Newsweek Vincent Astor was far too stupid to answer any such complaint. Now here we are in the Newsweek of 2008, and it’s still lousy. There have been a few decent writers in between that were less nutty than today’s Newsweek hacks.

But why is Newsweek currently lousy? Here’s an example provided by an editor who keeps a sharp eye on their crimes. He sent me their recent obituary of William F. Buckley, a hero to those who feared democracies.

Buckley bridled at bullies [we are assured]. But one of the rare times he lost his temper was debating Gore Vidal, who “got under his skin,” says son Chris. When Vidal called Buckley a “crypto-Nazi,” Buckley responded, “Now listen, you queer, you stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in your goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.” But usually his public manners were genteel [I think they mean gentile]. With “Firing Line” guests who seemed nervous or over their heads, Buckley was gentle. Behind the scenes, he could show remarkable kindness. In 1980, a rising conservative star, Congressman Bob Bauman, was soliciting a 16-year-old [male] for oral sex. Bauman had been a gay-basher, and he instantly became a pariah. The next day, knowing what lay ahead for the disgraced congressman, Buckley quietly gave him an envelope containing $10,000. “He was a knightly man,” says Chris.

Unknown to them and everyone else who might read that publication, my views on many matters do not conform to the tired hacks who’ve taken over Newsweek, a magazine that has convinced itself that Bobby Kennedy Sr. was a great liberal. They love throwing about misunderstood terms like liberal and conservative that seldom suit their superficial, not to mention malicious, standards. Recently, their words of mourning for the fallen “genteel” paladin were incredible. As my editor friend knew that I seldom read the wilder attacks on me, he deconstructs Newsweek’s obituary of Buckley:

Parenthetically, I should note that, back in 1968, ABC TV had asked me and Buckley to “debate” each other at the Democratic and Republican conventions. Although Buckley was often drunk and out of control, he was always a spontaneous liar on any subject that his dizzy brain might extrude. When we were in Chicago during the Republican convention, the Chicago police decided it would be fun to attack the young co-ed demonstrators in Grant Park, not far from our studio. It was one of the worst displays of police brutality I’ve ever seen, and so I said on air; he liked what the police had done; in no time, the whole country was as shocked as I, but not Buckley. On air he was hissing like a cobra against the young people in Grant Park because, he said, they were egging on the Viet Cong to kill American Marines. They were not, of course. Buckley was a world-class American liar on the far right who would tell any lie he thought he could get away with. Years of ass-kissing famous people in the press and elsewhere had given him, he felt, a sort of license to libelously slander those hated liberals who, from time to time, smoked him out as I did in Chicago, when I defended the young people in Grant Park by denying that they were Nazis and that the only “pro- or crypto-Nazi” I could think of was himself. He sued me and got nowhere. He sued Esquire, in which our words appeared. By then the coming right-wing surge was in view. And so Esquire cravenly agreed to settle with him for a few paragraphs worth of free advertising for his weird little magazine The National Review, hardly the great victory he claimed.

Now, to Newsweek’s obituary of this late dishonorable American in which my editor-friend assures me that his brain-dead son Christopher had a hand: “Buckley bridled at bullies.” And who was the bully in context? Myself. He was also an expert at changing indefensible contexts. Buckley maintained that I supported revolutionaries who favored murdering U.S. Marines. Yet all the talk of Nazis etc. was started by Buckley. There was no lie he would not tell to get back at those who defeated him in debate.

The current editors at Newsweek appear to have listened eagerly to his son Christopher, who is guiding them to a benign view of what had been a most hysterical queen (WFB), much admired by a media that takes everyone at his own evaluation of himself as they did with Capote, who told them that he was a great writer like Proust (pronounced Prowst) and the hacks ate it up.

The correct assessment of any reputation today is so far from plausible reality that it might be a good thing if the hacks of a magazine like Newsweek steered clear of characterizing those disliked by the advertisers; hence his creepy son’s depiction of me as a “bully” when I was simply attending to one, and then—o, joy!—Buckley called me a “queer” and actually threatened me with physical violence, so great was his testosterone level. Next, the loyal son, suspecting that the pejorative use of “queer” is politically incorrect in mag-land, Christopher rambles into a story about his father’s kindness to a Mr. Bauman who had lost his seat in Congress after the congressman had been caught while soliciting Oral Sex from a 16-year-old male (note how prurient Newsweek’s prose is, in describing undesirable people). Chris weeps into his computer as he describes how Dad gave the poor sinner of the flesh an envelope containing $10,000 (I bet?) in cash adding, mysteriously, “He was a knightly man”: Who was—the cocksucker recipient of Buckley’s charity? Or his admirer, Mr. Buckley himself?—Bauman was very right wing, it is said. RIP WFB—in hell.

The unique mess that our republic is in can be, in part, attributed to a corrupt press whose roots are in mendacious news (sic) magazines like Time and Newsweek, aided by tabloids that manufacture fictional stories about actual people. This mingling of opinion and fiction has undone a media never devoted to truth. Hence, the ease with which the Republican smear-machine goes into action when they realize that yet again the party’s permanent unpopularity with the American people will cause them defeat unless they smear individually those who question the junk that the media has put into so many heads. Anyone who says “We gotta fight ’em over there or we’re gonna have to fight ’em over here.” This absurdity has been pronounced by every Republican seeking high office. The habit of lying is now a national style that started with “news” magazines that was further developed by pathological liars that proved to be “good” Entertainment on TV. But a diet of poison that has done none of us any good.

I speak ex cathedra now, ad urbe et orbe, with a warning that no society so marinated in falsity can long survive in a real world.

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By Thomas Billis, March 21 at 12:00 pm #
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Once upon a time

Mr Vidal delivers the true eulogy of Wm F. Buckley.Whose legacy will be that he was able to build a philosophy around greed and racism.When I read Newsweeks account of Bill Buckley I went back and looked for “Once Upon A Time"at the beginning.I have read fairy tales with more truth than the Newsweeek depiction of Bill Buckley.As usual a truly great man of American letters,Gore Vidal,has laid a truly despicable man to rest with the truth.I am sure Bill Buckley and Jerry Falwell are having great laughs together in the front row of hell.

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By Bruce M Smith, March 21 at 11:59 am #
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Vidal's are Vital..for America

As a lucky American now retired in France, and never trustng the Bush family, changed to Euros long ago, I paid for it! Sort of…
I’m well aware of the Buckley’s, working and living in Connecicut for 21 years; in fact did some work for them via their servants. (Luxury goods of course) Really dreadful people.
What’s funny over here is Buckley was such a nothing it missed the press he loved to hound. ie that he’s dead. I think.. is he? I read a few ‘Chris’ articles - a few Ok - but no Vidal. Just a well educated cheap-shot.
What bothers me most about the catastrophe Bush/Cheney AND CONGRESS have given the American people is at least there are Gore Vidals & others from overseas who came here. Can any foreign intellectual today want to meet Cindy Sheenan?
This is what Gore Vidal gives us, which the next generation won’t. GET REAL AMERICA! We don’t have much to offer the rest of the world until we CHANGE!

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By Karen Miller, March 21 at 11:36 am #
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Vidal - Buckley

Yes, William F. Buckley was a true simpleton (and tasteless at that), I believe that would make him an insipid ninny. 

We scream loudest about the things we are most guilty of and boy that seems true of the right who are always screaming about something since speaking softly about it would draw no attention.

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By Tony Waters, March 21 at 11:23 am #
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Gore's clear vision

Gore Vidal never seems to be blown off course.  He just tells the highly unvarnished truth, and lets the reader either digest it or find it indigestible.  Good to see that age and a wheelchair have not blunted his blade.

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By Dr. Vogel, March 21 at 11:14 am #
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Funniest ting I've read all year.

Gore Vidal called Buckley a queen.  And his son an imbecile.  And called out the so-called liberal media for the intolerant wack-jobs and shills to the Right that they are.  I get the sense that Mr. Vidal is as embarrassed to be an American as most of us are now.

As an aside, one of my favorite Buckley moments was when ABC had big roundtable after the first airing of “The Day After.” Buckley was trying to respond to something, mostly through drunken mumbling, holding his fountain pen to his cheek as he so often did, and Ted Koppel, the moderator, told him to sit up straight and speak into the microphone.  Let’s just say that Koppel completely punked him, and Buckley knew it.  I think Carson may have done the same once.

Thanks, Mr. Vidal, we’ll forgive the sloppy Latin.

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By Bill Blackolive, March 21 at 10:32 am #
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Mr. Vidal, what might ever change this land’s most indoctrinated population in history than the shock of learning 9/ll is inside?  I tell old friends go to patriotsquestion9/ll.  They get their shock.  Maybe they say this is shills, I say to them they have yet to go there, here be from 40 two Septembers back now a thousand famous howling, known people, besides the firemen trying to speak to Michael Moorer and so on. Hey, we have got to start.  Hey, keep your noble self in the flesh a time further, life on Earth might improve, be worth a good drink.

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By saramus, March 21 at 7:20 am #
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ex cathedra 2

of course, what Mr. Vidal really meant to say was not “ad (+accusative)” anything, but simply urbi et orbi (dative)--the papal proclamation “to the city (Rome) and the world.”

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By Tony Waters, March 21 at 11:58 am #
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Re: ex cathedra 2

Of course.

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By saramus, March 21 at 7:13 am #
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Gore Vidal is a treasure, loved the piece. WFB got the obit he deserved. But I’m surprised the genuinely erudite Mr. Vidal got the Latin wrong at the end. ex cathedra is fine, but that’s ad urbem et orbem.

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By tomack, March 21 at 7:00 am #
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Regardless of his love of Bach or his video on celestial navigation (all worthy in there way), and despite his “softening” in later years--the man was still one of those people responsible for the Love It Or Leave It attitude that continues to corrupt and stall American cultural and societal Evolution.

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By ahansen, March 21 at 6:38 am #
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He lives!

My God.  Purple Girl’s channeled Buckley!

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By Suzanne Lynch, March 21 at 6:37 am #
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Norman Thomas

I read God and Man at Yale while I was an undergrad and wondered even then why WFB did not simply transfer to Holy Cross or Georgetown if he found the agnosticism at Yale so threatening. His analytical skills might well have been improved had he taken Catholic theology or Philosophy at a Catholic school.

Later I watched his TV until he brutally attacked a very elderly Norman Thomas whom he had invited to be his guest. It was a despicable display and formed my permanent distaste for all things Buckley.  He made a career of enlarging himself at the expense of others. I trust he has gone into the void he deserves.

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By Inherit The Wind, March 21 at 6:21 am #
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Vidal insists EVERYTHING WFB said was a lie.  Not true.  It might have been insulting, crude, and cheap to call Mr. Vidal “a queer”, but it is true that Mr. Vidal is gay.  As for everything else in those ‘68 debates, I found them hilarious “Now Bill, don’t stick your tongue out at me!”

It’s also obvious that WFB was sloshed during that “crypto-nazi” exchange.  Even in B&W;it was obvious that his face was flushed and puffy.

I think in his later years WFB showed a bit more sense (other than being pro-Intelligent Design).  He at least at the end recognized that George W. Bush is a nincompoop stating, when asked about GWB’s legacy that Bush will leave no legacy.

Plus, his video on celestial navigation is terrific (Buckley, of course, loved to sail).

I guess, when you compare him to TRUE conservatives, like Barry Goldwater, WFB comes off looking bad.  But when you compare him to the modern Bushian and religious-right-wing-nuts he looks a little better.

The one thing Vidal picks up that’s amazing is that they have the GALL to call WFB an anti-bully, when ANYONE who watched Firing Line watched to see if he could bully the guests (Oh, to find a video of the Muhammad Ali “Firing Line”!--It was like watching a clumsy St. Bernard try to catch an agile mouse..."Mr. Buckley, I’m not as smart and educated as you...")

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By Ga, March 22 at 7:00 pm #
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Re: EVERYTHING WFB said was a lie

Vidal insists EVERYTHING WFB said was a lie.  Not true.

Yeah, not true, as in Vidal said no such thing. He said:

“Buckley was a world-class American liar on the far right who would tell any lie he thought he could get away with.”

And:

“There was no lie he would not tell to get back at those who defeated him in debate.”

Calling someone “a liar” means that they have lied, not that everything they said was lie. Bit of a stretch there.

And that Vidal is gay is no excuse for being called a queer in that way. Or is Spic okay for a Mexican? Jew (as in goddamned jew) okay for someone Jewish. Or spook (or that other word) okay for an African? Etc.

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By oldgeezerpilot, March 21 at 6:16 am #
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American Treasure Part Deux

Fans of Gore Vidal should read this interview he did for CityPages three years ago.

http://citypages.com/databank/26/1268/article13085.asp

The man is right on the money… as usual.

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By Jean Tracy, March 21 at 6:08 am #
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The truth

Thanks, Gore Vidal for telling it like it was.  The most I remember about William Buckley was his “batting” his eyes every few moments.

Let’s hope that some day we get only truth from the media.

J. Tracy

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By Conservative Yankee, March 21 at 4:56 am #
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"...fictional stories about actual people."

Although I agree with some of what Mr. Vidal says above, his label; “Lier” falls flat on the basis of Videl’s own prevarications.

He rails about the country being in the position it is because Gore Vidal’s latest novel, authors tell “...fictional stories about actual people”

One only need read “Burr” to understand Vidal’s hypocrisies.  My mother approached him at Random House in 1973 after she had completed the book. She asked “why did you call it Burr as it is devoid of all but a few generalized facts on the man” He curled his lip and sneered at her “Why do you think it says “A Novel?”

Vidal has a warped unequal standard. Had Vidal died first, Buckley could have made the assertions above, and they would have carried the same weight.

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By AnAmericaninGermany, March 21 at 4:11 am #
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Mr Vidal... thank you

Your wisdom… on the mark as always… has been a delight to my tired mind.  Thank you.

If I had but one wish, it would be to dine with you and talk into the wee hours.

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By nana, March 20 at 7:23 pm #
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ROCK ON, Gore!!!

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By thebeerdoctor, March 20 at 7:09 pm #
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TO THE DEAD ONE OWES ONLY THE TRUTH

I was 12 years old when I saw the exchange between Buckley and Vidal. Gore Vidal’s account is true. The former host of Firing Line was a frothing nincompoop. My late father observed at the time that while Vidal might be homosexual, he was sure that if it came to fisticuffs, Vidal would kick his ass.
It was a shocking, and I must say entertaining moment in broadcast television. Of course seeing Oswald shot in the stomach by Jack Ruby, when I was 8, remains to this day, the most shocking of all. But the horror of the Chicago Convention police riot was at least a bit more scalable, watching the so-called Nazi becoming incensed by the so-called queer.
I have always been a fan of Gore Vidal. He has a wickedly sharp sense of humor, and his writings, especially his essays, are fine examples of what a good writer can do. As I am so much older now, I can only lament there is nobody that will replace his unique personality. He is the true gentleman. WFBjr. was a cowardly fraud.

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By lightiris, March 20 at 7:05 pm #
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Gore Vidal is a treasure.  While I’m not sure he has been on the right side of every issue, on most issues one can be assured he will call a spade a spade. 

Buckley, otoh, was an intelligent asshole who should have known better.

Bravo, Mr. Vidal, for stepping up and speaking out.  You, sir, are treasure.

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By Christopher Robin, March 20 at 7:04 pm #
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After months of not blogging.... I return to find a new column from Gore Vidal!! smile

It was with bemusement that I saw the solemn fawning television coverage of Buckley’s passing. From many self-professed people on the left, who admired his ability with words....his cultured manner....blah blah blah.

To hear a few profess that National Review was “required” reading and such similar nonsense, by self-proclaimed “Democrats”....Well no wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.

But I could only think to that moment in 68’. When you confronted the eye-popping droll wind bag...it’s the stuff of lore.

I was just 5 years old in 68’, but recall an earlier time where progressive thought at least had a chance on the air waves...Dick Cavett and others, long before the Reagan changes in ad time allotted to broadcasters. Long uninterrupted speech, the stuff interesting talk shows once had....only found now on C-Span.

But a few scratchy poor quality black and white short clips exist on YouTube of your near brawl with the condescending snob Buckley. I guess his facade was dropped when cornered.

In light of what has passed over these ensuing years , your use of “crypto-Nazi,” turned out to be on the mark...and more telling than his reaction to rioting outside.

Considering where the conservative “movement” is now, it’s time to drop “crypto” from their ideology.... It’s passed being veiled...rather it’s unveiled and true to form when called out on it , indignant anger is the only response.

See: idiot Jonah Goldberg some think tank twit, who has written some complete revisionist view of history “Liberal Fascism” where he claims fascist movements of the 20th century were liberal constructs! that’s how bad the misinformation is today.

Or a descendant of Herbert Hoover writing of the Depression years, reams of revisionist crap. In essence accusing FDR’s policies of prolonging the Depression. Overlooking the depression was well under way for three years before Roosevelt took office, and still deepening. Hoover’s hands off waiting for the “business cycle” to self correct things, was judged in 32’ when he was ousted in a landslide. FDR judged by his reelection to four terms.

See, when they can’t handle the truth they lash out , accuse you of their sins, and refute historical facts with very selective use of history. So adherant to bastardizing of the word “Freedom” to apply mainly to property. It’s beyond ignorance, and can only be seen as willful attempts at misinformation, something the National Socialists in Germany were prolific at.

Nothing “crypto” about that.

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By lightiris, March 20 at 7:04 pm #
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A Treasure

Gore Vidal is a treasure.  While I’m not sure he has been on the right side of every issue, on most issues one can be assured he will call a spade a spade. 

Buckley was an intelligent asshole who should have known better.

Bravo Mr. Vidal for stepping up and speaking out.  You, sir, are treasure.

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By Paolo, March 20 at 6:49 pm #
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Buckley was a truly contemptible human being. Anyone who was listening knew, as early as the 1950’s, that Buckley was an enemy of freedom. His words, from the early 1950’s, were that America had to become more like the Soviet Union, in order to defeat the Soviet Union. He mentioned, in this context, that America would have to have central planning boards, economic centralization, and a draft to continue the constant belligerence.

When Ayn Rand died, his publication wrote a most insulting obituary. Fair is fair; he deserves the same.

Buckley’s formula was to pay lip service to the Old Right by calling, not too convincingly, for economic freedom, all the while calling for constant warfare, which is economic freedom’s worst enemy. He essentially conned the Old Right while forming the belligerent, war-loving New Right, which eventually morphed into the Neo-Conservatives--the most revolting political animals of all.

His nose-in-the-air, fake-upper-class-British attitude was particularly loathsome. He loved to use sesquipedalia to give the impression of deep thought. As Nietzsche would have said: he muddied the waters to make them appear deep.

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By Ernie, March 20 at 6:10 pm #
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Gore Vidal: the Greatest

Mr. Vidal is our greatest living man of letters.  I hope Kurt Vonnegut—perhaps his closest peer when alive—is smiling down on him from above.

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By Joe, March 20 at 6:02 pm #
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I enjoyed Bill Buckley’s novel “Stained Glass” as well as Gore Vidal’s “Burr.” The best way for them would have been the duel with pistols; in earlier times I would have figured Buckley as playing the part of the pushy loon, Burr, but on reading Vidal’s piece here I’m not so sure. Vidal is cool, of course, and here has given me a really good belly-laugh. Buckley’s ghost is swirling around Vidal right now, fucking with keys on the typewriter and such.

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By DR, March 20 at 4:53 pm #
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Thank you

Thank you, Mr Vidal. Finally someone who has the balls to speak the truth about the ignorant, self-important pedantic ass that was Mr William F. Buckley. He never, EVER, won an argument on the merits; yet, because he could verbally confuse most who would dare speak to him, he, like the French, managed to SEEM intelligent, instead of actually BE intelligent.

Thank you, Mr Vidal, then, for your rare sanity.

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By G.Anderson, March 20 at 3:52 pm #
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Who could even listen to him?

Mr. Buckley was an enemy of Freedom. Who lived in an Ivory Tower constructed of his own reificaitons.

Who could actually listen to him for more than 10 seconds?

If any could I would doubt their sanity.

As to Newsweek, it belongs in Doctors offices, and Dentist offices, where sick people go for a little light reading while they wait an eternity for their appointments. No where else should it be tolerated.

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By Philip B Wood, March 20 at 6:19 pm #
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Re: Who could even listen to him?

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is still some sanity in America!

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By sad old german, March 20 at 4:57 pm #
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Re: Who could even listen to him?

I used to love to watch Buckley’s program on PBS.  Best comedy show on tv at the time.  Even my apolitical sister rolled with laughter.  What a spectacle to watch somebody do for himself what Lil’ Bush on comedy central today is trying to do for the shrub!

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By Purple Girl, March 20 at 3:17 pm #
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Required differentiation in Media

I consider the Media the last of the assemble Horseman to the Humanitarian Apocalypse. They are the ‘youngest’and the must unskilled and Ackward of the Group. The first of course is hierarchial Organized Relgion- the granddaddy of forced compliance.Gov’t was formed in it’s image (until the birth of ‘Democracy’), next and also a carbon copy of it’s predecessors Commerce (Inc’s hoarding and controlling the use of Natural Resources). The scam began as soon as one person had to concede their beliefs about their personal realtionship with the ‘unknown’. One had to compromise on a subject that has no real answers- thus became subjugated to the other. the Birth of Power, add a little muscle and limit essential goods for survival and Voila you have the BEAST, but had no voice to Proclaim it’s Validity to the Masses. So is initiated the Pirates of Human ingenuity- Mass Communications.The Mouth of the BEAST. but it is weak and dependent upon the Mass to acknowledge them First. they are still slaves to man’s attention and acceptance. The weak Link who have not mastered their Lesson Yet.
Deny them and they will crumble, thus creating a ripple effect through the ground on shich these Horseman Ride. Their Youth should help question the others and the realization that by turning now in our defense, in Alegience with the masses, they can only benefit. Stop Talking and Start Singing

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