Maani, thank you once again for correcting me.  I found the figures in my last post on this topic online.  Apparently I do not know how to verify what is found electronically.  But a good explanation of how the budget/surplus/deficit works can be found at:
http://www.marktaw.com/culture_and_media/TheNationalDe bt.html

Also at http://budget.house.gov/
is information on the facts of the debt and the budget
I will presume the information from the House might be accurate relatively speaking? 
The current US Debt today March 22 is:  $9,393,587,213,977.10 over $9 trillion. 
Your share of the national debt:  $30,931.98
So for a famiy of 4.3 that is $133,007.51 owed for the national debt.

I am not confusing the debt with the budget.  The budget as per the House website “invests in proven programs to boost economic growth, provides fiscally responsible tax relief and help for struggling families, and provides the resources to make America safer.”

To see the distinction between debt and deficit, please navigate to
http://www.federalbudget.com/
When Congress has to borrow money to pay for the US expenditures (appropriations), then the interest has to be paid.  The total borrowed is more than $9,000,000,000,000 and growing.  Again, the debt is seen at over $9 trillion.  I think that is a negative???? Right????  So if there was a surplus when Clinton left office of $3 trillion, I believe that is a positive????  then the net loss is $12 trillion since the 3 trillion is gone and an added 9 trillion even more gone????  Is my logic off again?  I’m sure if it is you will graciously correct me.  Thank you ahead of time.

While I have the absolute figures wrong, I have the intent of my comments right.  Each and everyone of us, including our children and babies, will have to pay for George W. Bush’s huge fiasco as president.

Offering an olive branch to you Fadel, after our enmity of the past, I surprise myself at how much I agree with you these days.  Perhaps we are not adversaries as much as might have been thought?  I hope this is true.  I especially appreciate your renaming this article “Bush’s Legacy of Evil.” The only problem I have with your argument is that I believe it is not simply Bush’s deliberate intention of evil, it is his coterie, his cohorts who have the intentions, and he is merely their instrument to carry them out.  I also think these evils need to be spelled out over and over and over again lest anyone forget when they put their pen to ballot in November.  For instance, the Bush War for oil in Iraq that could not have been waged without the assistance of his cabinet, the Congress, the Supreme Court.  The only ideas that Tolstoy had, in my estimation, had to do with his model of how colonialism such as Napoleon waged against Russia, and elsewhere by extension, could not have been engaged without those others who supported the military campaign.  That Napoleon solely could not have done what he did, that others were more culpable.  The same here with Bush.  Evil by association, to be sure, but all of the evil factions need to be exposed and exposed often

Whether Bill Clinton is the best president of modern times or not would obviously be an idle debate depending on one’s entrenched political position.  The point is that America did have, factually, a surplus in the nation’s coffers of thee trillion ($3,000,000,000,000.00), that is the number 3 in terms of dollars with 12 zeros after it before a decimal sign.  Now there is a minus 12 trillion dollars, that is a negative $12,000,000,000,000.00.  In effect that is a $15,000,000,000,000.00 or fifteen trillion dollars deficit.  In as much as we have roughly about 600 million people in this country, that is about $50,000.00 for each and every person, man, woman and child that is owed to pay off the debts.  For a average family of 2.3 children (as per Oxford Journals), that is 4.3 x $50,000.00, that is in the neighborhood of $215,000.00 they owe to pay off the debt.  Americans like to put dollar signs on everything, homes, cars, love relationships, politics, religions, literally everything, so putting the legacy of George W. Bush in the dollar perspective, we can see that we have certainly lost just about everything we have, except maybe the air we breathe and even that has lost a lot of quality.

While using the game of chess is a classic analogy, this is no game folks, the picture is even more bleak when we consider the prospects of a John McCain continuing the practices that the Republican party George W. Bush has forced on us.  You cannot believe even for a nanosecond that McCain would not continue those policies.  Even if he mouths a slightly different scenario, you and I know he lies.  He is now the target to be evaporated.  Or you will reap more of the same and you will deserve it, as Expat so often and rightly says.  The game is avoiding fallng into the abysmal abyss, again!

New news about Clinton, or maybe not.  I don’t know how either of these stories got by one of us but here’s excerpts and links. You may have heard some of this before, but I haven’t heard it quite like this.

Mother Jones 2007
“She was a Goldwater Girl who, under the tutelage of her high school history teacher Paul Carlson (whom Jones describes as “to the right of the John Birchers"), attended biweekly anticommunist meetings and later served as president of Wellesley’s Young Republicans chapter. Out of step with the era’s radicalism, Clinton wrote Jones from college, lamenting that her fellow students didn’t believe that one could be “a mind conservative and a heart liberal.”

“Clinton’s prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or “the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to “spiritual war” on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship’s only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has “made a fetish of being invisible,” former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God’s plan.”

Also from MJ: “The Fellowship’s long-term goal is “a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit.” According to the Fellowship’s archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship’s God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators.”

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillar ys-prayer-2.html

The Nation, 3-08
“The Family’s most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes--knitting together international networks of right-wing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolf Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs.”

cont. The Nation:
“Clinton fell in with The Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the Senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family’s “most elite cell,” the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia’s notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton.”

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

This might explain why Clinton’s supporters are so often “right-wingers” and possibly why Maani calls himself a pastor. You might want to take the time to read through these articles.  Things are beginning to fall into place… I told you see was a Republican! And not the nice kind either.... (Geez..I love to say I told you so. LOL) Could this be why “those” Republicans are voting for her....?

like a nice enough site, but nobody is here, what a shame.

Maybe this is why Bush is smiling and Cheney said, “So” when asked about the American peoples condemnation of the war.

“On May 9, 2007 President George Bush reasserted the role of the Federal government during a declared emergency by issuing Executive Order NSPD 51/ HSPD-20. The Order states that in the event of a ‘catastrophic emergency’ all ‘national essential functions’ may be taken over by the Executive branch of government and the Department of Homeland Security (including FEMA).”

“In January of 2007 the American Civil Liberties Union released a report based on documents obtained by a Freedom of Information Act suit showing that the Pentagon had monitored at least “186 anti-military protests in the United States and collected more than 2,800 reports involving Americans in an anti-terrorist threat database.”

“For some time FEMA has been renovating and constructing new detention camps throughout the country. In January 2006 Haliburton subsidiary KBR announced that it had been awarded an “indefinite delivery / indefinite quantity contract to construct detention facilities for the Department of Homeland Security worth a maximum of $385 million over 5 years.”

“A current estimate of the number of detainment camps is over 800 located in all regions of the United States with varying maximum capacities. [27] If one includes government buildings currently used for other purposes the number is far greater.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va& aid=7763

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

An earlier posting mentioned this but I think it is worth mentioning again. Cheney’s comment today sums up the attitude of this administration, when he said SO,in response to Diane Sawyer’s question about 75% of the American public being against the Wars. 

It was not only that he said it, but that he said so glibly and casually.  The arrogance and total disregard for what the public thinks in that one word was SO apparent it was appalling.  It was almost surreal. 

I share many of the sentiments expressed by so many including Mr.Scheer, but it is so maddening when you think of all the people who have protested(even today)and written letters and articles etc…

and yet we still have a congress, while some times expressing frustration and threating to take action has still not yet done anything meaningful to stop this.  what the hell are we supposed to do?  That is why there is no draft, because they know.  However is sad because looking at history, that seems the only thing that has been learned…

Just like Ronny, W has no idea what is really going on. He’s pleased to hear what ever Dick and ASSociates tell him.
ronny should signs of Alzheimers Long before it was finallly revealed- He was still in office, in his first term! And Dick was there hiding behind HW (’The New World Order’ slip).
W. is a Patsy, a ‘Mark’ easily manipulated and gullible. Not that he should have any legal recourse for his stupidity-It’s due to lazines and self indulgence- still eligible to stand Trial.
Let’s focus on the ‘Brain’ to this “Pinky"- Dick...When asked what he thought that 2/3 of the Citizens of this country want US out of Iraq, He answers “SO”????? I beleive that man just stated he Does NOT Work for US!!! I consider that a Confession- a One word Confession, He does Not think he must answer to US, because what This Is No Longer A Democracy??? He is No Longer a Public Servant?
How much Media Coverage, Cycles will that High Treason Get- only Olbermann? ‘So’ two little letters= One Huge Indictment.."SO"

I recently retired after an over 30-year career working with the mentally ill. That smug, disinvolved look on his face and tone in his voice is ‘inappropriate affect’. The unseen enemies are ‘paranoia’. The jumbling of words are ‘neologisms’ and sometimes, ‘word salad’. The repetition of the same expression regardless of its’ appropriateness to the real world situation is ‘preseveration’. The voice of God he hears is an ‘auditory hallucination’. The disorder is often seen in people with a history of abuse of drugs and alcohol, even in the remote past, especially cocaine and amphetamines. The lack of the ability to determine right from wrong, the tendency to proceed regardless of the consequences are symptoms of ‘anti-social personality traits’ as is his compulsive telling of lies regardless of the fact that the listener knows that he is misrepresenting the facts. His conducting himself as if everything is fine and he is well is a combination of ‘illogical association of ideas’ and ‘poor insight into the nature of his condition’. The suspiciousness, the fear of enemies that require secret wire taps and spying is consistent with some symptoms of what in lay terms is called a ‘Schizo-Affective Personality Disorder.’ He is not going to improve the way someone with a simple thought disorder (like Schizophrenia) might, because his patterns of behavior are deeply seated in his personality. This disorder is like an eating disorder one of the most difficult to treat, even with medication and therapy, often because they are subtle and difficult to diagnose. The problem with him is that he will continue to fall further into the spiral of this illness even after his term ends. He will withdraw from the public eye, and even his closest friends will become enemies. He will become in many ways like Richard M Nixon, whose similar disorder was not as severe but was complicated by chronic alcoholism.

That’s all he is. If you have noticed the wear and tear on the idiot bu$h’s face. he’s back to boozing it up. I hardly listen to what he has to say. I noticed the other day, he was slurring his words. he’s an ex-drunk, back on the drink. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer a..hole.

A good indication of how incompetent this idiot bu$h was the pitiful piece of paper he tried to pass off as his military “record of service”.  I was in the Army over 7 years and generated more paperwork just to cover my ration cards in SE Asia for 6 years.

AS time went on, we got a better picture of just how incompetent this conservanazi idiot was. An Australian friend of mine commented during Hurricane Katrina that America is a sick place because “your president has abandoned the people of New Orleans”. Now, if people overseas can see it, why can’t we?

The US has lost all credibility in the world because of bu$h/cheney.

Pelosi and Ried should have had public hearings on the impeachment of bu$h/cheney. Those hearings would
have enlightened the people of the US just how sorry bu$h/cheney are. IT would remind people that the conservanazis are a fascist bunch, bent on achieving power and screwing everyone who doesn’t agree with them.

So, look at the US today. We are not a nation that goes by the rule of law. Law only applies to poor people. AS an American, we can be picked up off the street, imprisoned and never see the light of day. We can be carted off to some illegal prison in a foreign country, whose name we can’t pronounce. We can be spied upon by the bu$hnazis just because we are outspoken against thier lies and acts of treason.

Yep, bu$h has a legacy. A sorry one at that. If the US doesn’t wake up from this nightmare soon, it will only get worse.

Don’t expect relief from More of the Same McCain, Hanoi’s Manchurian candidate.

Speaker Pelosi understands that impeachment, whether of Bush, Cheney (as already introduced by Rep. Kucinich) or both, will not be sustained by the Senate.  There aren’t enough votes to convict.  So, naturally, she doesn’t want her legislature sidetracked by a futile exercise.  Besides, Bush and his cohorts only have 406 days to go.