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Posted on Mar 18, 2008
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Wearing a green tie in honor of St. Patrick’s Day, Bush smiles for the camera during a meeting with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson (left) and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on March 17 at the White House.

By Robert Scheer

That idiotic “what, me worry?” look just never leaves the man’s visage. Once again, there was our president, presiding over disasters in part of his making and totally on his watch, grinning with an aplomb that suggested a serious disconnect between his worldview and existing reality. Be it in his announcement that Iraq was being secured on a day when bombs ripped through that sad land or posed between his Treasury secretary and the Federal Reserve chairman to applaud the government’s bailout of a failed bank, George Bush was the only one inexplicably smiling.

Failure suits him. It is a stance he learned well while presiding over one failed Texas business deal after another, and it served him splendidly as he claimed the title of president of the United States after losing the popular, and maybe even the electoral, vote. It carried him through the most ignominious chapter of U.S. foreign policy, from the lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to an unprecedented presidential defense of torture.

The totally unwarranted assurance was there this week as the once proud dollar fell into the toilet and the debacle of Iraq and Bush’s other failed Mideast policies pushed oil prices to record highs. The Europeans, who didn’t support the U.S. imperial intervention, are doing much better, not having to pay for guarding besieged oil pipelines while U.S. taxpayers are saddled with trillions in future debt, not to mention 4,000 U.S. military deaths and 30,000 U.S. injuries in a war the administration had promised would be paid for with Iraqi oil revenues. Even in Baghdad last week, there wasn’t enough oil to keep the lights on for more than a few hours.

But the president is happy because his legacy issue, the war on terror, is intact. No matter that this week the Pentagon was forced to release a report conducted over the last five years that concluded, after surveying 600,000 official Iraqi documents captured by U.S. forces, that there is “no smoking gun” establishing any connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. The report was so embarrassing that we taxpayers, who paid for it, were not going to be told of its existence, even though the explosive conclusions were totally declassified, until ABC News forced its posting online.

The network reported that the Pentagon had canceled plans to issue a press release or make it available by e-mail or otherwise online because, as one Pentagon official put it, the study is “too politically sensitive.” Damned right it is—Bush squandered U.S. treasure and lives in an effort that had nothing to do with the infamous attack on America. As for the real war on terror against the real al-Qaida, those folks are very much on the rebound, just where they were before the 9/11 attack, building their bases in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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Meanwhile, back on the home front, Wall Street is crumbling, not because of planes crashing into buildings but because the outrageous knaves of finance, freed from the most minimal requirements of public accountability, have been permitted to destroy America’s reputation in the world for financial probity.

In the name of ending what were claimed to be onerous regulations imposed after the Great Depression, this administration accelerated a bipartisan pattern of allowing Wall Street to betray investors with impunity while abandoning the federal government’s obligation, once accepted equally by conservatives and liberals, to ensure our national solvency. This tendency, under way for decades to give the bankers what they wanted—codified in the Financial Services Modernization Act, which was signed into law by Bill Clinton and which permitted banks, stock brokers and insurance companies to merge—was exacerbated by Bush’s appointment of rapacious corporate foxes to watch the corporate henhouse.

They will take care of their own, which is why Bush was smiling, happily posed in that photo op between Henry Paulson Jr. and Ben Bernanke announcing the Bear Stearns bailout, made possible only by the federal government using your tax dollars to pick up the bad debt of the banks. Tape that picture to your wall to remind you, when you open a credit card bill with a 30 percent interest rate—not the 2 percent the Fed will charge banks—or see the increase in your adjustable rate mortgage, of just what your government will do for the really big guys that it will never do for regular folks.

In the years to come, as millions lose their retirement income and homes, we will have occasion to remember Georgie Porgie, who kissed the taxpayers and made them cry before he ran away.     

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By joseph, March 19, 2009 at 5:16 am Link to this comment
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Obama is continuing the same policies. I wonder if change has really come or not.

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By FlushRush, January 21, 2009 at 10:52 am Link to this comment
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Shenonymous - Thanks for the response, we definitely see eye to eye. For starters, L.B. is Laura Bush. I had put her in the comment title, but it was never displayed along with my comment.  As far as the “Intelligence” comment, it was paraphrased from a movie with Mexican Bandidtos and the original quote was “Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges”. I wasn’t trying to be too cryptic, but the movie is fairly old, and I remember when the phrase caught on, but that was years ago.
I met a woman who claimed she was a physcic, and she claimed that Bush and Cheney will get indicted on embezzling millions of Iraqi oil dollars…she was quite adamant about this, so I guess we’ll see.
I appreciate reading your blogs, and will continue to blog around, so I’m sure we’ll connect again.

Later

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By Shenonymous, January 16, 2009 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment

FlushRush – Since no one else has responded to your impassioned several posts, let me say that I empathize with you.  And I will try to address each of your separate comments as they are very deserving.

Yes, we ought to be able to take solace in the fact that Bush and Cheney shall be reviled forever (no need to say through history as that is what forever means).  I certainly think they are worthy of revilement.  I happen to catch Mr. Cheney’s interview with the kiss-up The News Hour the other night and found him totally preposterous in his defense/offense of the Bush two terms as President.  How he could sit there and spew the garbage he does is completely amazing.  He is the most immoral of the two b*stards.  We don’t have to worry about any devil or hell, since neither exists outside of this planet.  Humans make their own devils and their own hells.

Your assessment of Mr. Obama and G’s washed out advice is because George needs something to salvage his horribly failed administrations and since terrorism was his thing, that is what he wants Obama to work on so he might be exonerated.  We aren’t stupid, George Bush!

Since neither of your curses against George Bush or Dick Cheney will materialize, let us just make sure their legacy is permanently incinerated.  But how can we do that, that will be the task.  We must not let anybody ever forget.  I hope the Iraqis don’t let anybody forget either.

Since nuclear warfare would destroy this Planet it is not an option.  Prevention of nuclear weaponry and use must be made at all costs.  You are correct far as I am concerned, but I am not an expert, the war is in Afghanistan and Pakistan especially,  The murder of Bhutto was the worst thing to have happened in their history and entire future.  The only next worst thing would be for them to use their atomic weaponry.  They must be stopped!  Opium field eradication is the right advice far as I am concerned also.

I do not know who L.B. is.  Or if I do it has completely slipped my mind.  So please help out with that one.  But anyone who is cozying up to George is insane.

Two more to go.
We do need Intelligence, and you would be a fool to think we don’t.  I think you must be engaging in hyperbole due to the dirty, filthy, offensive, smelly, offensive, unpleasant, malicious, and completely harmful Intelligence we have had for the last eight years.

Mr. Bush’s compass was broken to begin with. It was given to him by the Right Wing Religious Conservatives.  We can only muse about Congress doing anything to give Americans peace over the immorality of the George Bush two Presidential administrations.

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By FlushRush, January 15, 2009 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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Bush maintains that he followed his moral compass while in office, and never comprimised his integrity and that he did what was best for the Country…TOTAL B.S.

That bastard would screw his mother for a dollar.

What a lying, sleazy S.O.B. he is. He deserves the harshest accountability, and he and his whole ship of fools (Cheney, Rove,etc..) need to be investigated, interrogated, and incarcerated for the rest of their unnatural, miserable, disgusting lives.

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By Flush Rush, January 14, 2009 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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With all the forethought, malice, and hand-wringing of deliberate incompetent villian’s, W and Cheney planned their strategy to invade Iraq and take out the evil dictator.

“Intelligence? We don’t need no stinking intelligence !!!”, and thus, act 2 of the nightmare that would become The Bush Administration continued…

Thx

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By FlushRush, January 14, 2009 at 6:58 pm Link to this comment
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My take on L.B. is that she is either mesmerized by the plundered millions, or at some point in time, she will reconcile with her concience and realize that she is living the high life with Blood Money. Any self-respecting person would have to be having some kind of spiritual dillema of sorts with which to come to terms with their reality.
Now that W has taken to working the talk-show circuit like some narcissistic rock star, I am perplexed with her loyal gullability to this derelict bastard.
I would hope for her sake that she make a break with this fool before she is villified by association.

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By FlushRush, January 14, 2009 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment
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We good citizens, living in the real world must take heed that the new front in the ongoing war on terror is in the badlands between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Ever since Benazir Bhutto was assasinated and Musharraf exited stage left, there has been a power vacuum in Pakistan. The terrorists have immediately taken up position in the badlands.

Not to be an alarmist, or to perpetuate fear-mongering, but if we allow them to overtake Pakistan, THEY WILL ACQUIRE NUKE’S !!!!

We must take the fight to them. I’d suggest that we begin with an opium feild erradication effort to pave the way for much needed food crops, and seriously contemplate tactical nuking the badlands.

Thx

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By FlushRush, January 14, 2009 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment
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W has exhibited a pathological paranoia throughout his two terms. He has actually conducted himself exactly like a dictator, by shunning any dissent, having secret service pre-sweep the room of any potential dissenters, so as to not throw off his inept, shallow train of thought.

He really should be incarceated in a mental institution for the shrinks to study for the rest of his life. Cheney should just be dropped off in the badlands of Afghanistan with a weapon and C-Rats, and be left to hump it out to safety, and if he survives, then let him live with himself. But alas, I’m showing compassion, he probably deserves incarceration for a long time.

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By FlushRush, January 14, 2009 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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Obama understands that by developing and streamlining green technology, we can accomplish 2 crucial goals to restoring our image, and standing in the Global Community.

By developing alternate, renewable energy sources, and embracing hybrid, flex-fuel vehicles, (which BTW our gasoline-powered vehicles can be retrofitted with a computer chip), we can drastically 1}Reduce our greenhouse gas emmissions, and 2} Create millions of jobs, that have been out-sourced.

By acheiving these 2 objectives alone, we can restore our credibility with other nations, and mentor them to follow suit.

Only then will we be able to ensure that our chilren and grandchildren will have a world fit to live in.

It sickens me to hear Bush advising Obama that terrorism is our greatest fear…WRONG…Mother Nature’s wrath can make terrorist hits look like childs play. We must become better stewards of our world, first and foremost, or we will seal our childrens fate.

Thx,

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By FlushRush, January 14, 2009 at 5:44 pm Link to this comment
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If Bush and Cheney are never held accountable, and they are able to ride off into the sunset, and live out their miserable lives, then we can take some solace in the fact that they will be reviled forever thru history. They will also have to recocile their ill-gotten gains, and all their cronies who have profited off of their multitude of decietful and downright criminal acts if not in this life, then most certainly in the next.
For their miserable sakes, I hope their millions of plundered dollars are worth having sold their souls to the devil, because that’s absolutely what they’ve done.
I wouldn’t trade my struggling-to make-ends-meet existence with their easy-street, abundant wealth billions at all, because when you sell out to the devil, there will be hell to pay.

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By Peter, January 14, 2009 at 5:47 am Link to this comment
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This was nice article.

A review about bush legacy can also be found here:
http://www.itop10.com/a23_exclusive-top-10-legacy-of-bush.aspx

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By FlushRush, January 12, 2009 at 8:22 pm Link to this comment
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For the record, W changed his resons for going to war prior to invading Iraq numerous times (ie.: WMD’s, Operation Iraqi Freedom, etc….), thereby refuting any notion that he chose to go to war on flawed intelligence. Cheney and W were determined to invade Iraq because they thought it was politically expedient to do so. It was their agenda, probably due to no bid contracts and oil money to be plundered.
I especially like the touch where awhile back W gave up golf (WHAT!!!) to show solidarity with the grieving families of the dead soldiers…pathetic at best. I also like how the Republicans are in-fighting amongst themselves like a sack of cats in heat, how proper.
Let history crucify and let justice prevail over the littany of treasonous, flagrant, and downright defiant acts against the Constitution and crimes against humanity, and so on etc, etc…
May W and Cheney, (and co.) be held accountable and God Speed to Barrack.

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By NateHale, November 28, 2008 at 11:23 pm Link to this comment
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“...The totally unwarranted assurance was there this week as the once proud dollar fell into the toilet and the debacle of Iraq and Bush’s other failed Mideast policies pushed oil prices to record highs. The Europeans, who didn’t support the U.S. imperial intervention, are doing much better, not having to pay for guarding besieged oil pipelines while U.S. taxpayers are saddled with trillions in future debt, not to mention 4,000 U.S. military deaths and 30,000 U.S. injuries in a war the administration had promised would be paid for with Iraqi oil revenues. Even in Baghdad last week, there wasn’t enough oil to keep the lights on for more than a few hours…”

“...Think of all the programs eliminated during “conservative” legislative and executive leadership…peace corps youthful initiative, planned parenthood, Voting rights(now papers needed in some states with large Black populations)collaborative foreign relations, disarmament strategies, environmental regulations, economic progress, progressive taxation, public education research grants, educational grants, habeas corpus to name a few.  And look at what’s in their place.  Destructive global warming, preemptive wars, religious litmus tests, rewriting of science, discarding the Constitution…”

“The objective of BushCo…gives to “corporate power…”

Those are a few egregious examples of “no thought speak.”

After enduring reading the irrational allusions (or rather , illusions) to vague conspiracies and loss of civil liberties, and patiently indulging the childish rants from those that cling to the hopes of “Democratic Socialism”, enough is enough!

Under Bush/ChenyCo/BushHitler/Bushies; what has been discarded from the constitution?  Free speech? Can’t be that, we are enjoying open dicourse and a very critical one at that, right here, right now. Right to private property? Right, the place in this here dwindling superpower that private property rights have been SIGNIFICATLY demeaned is in the areas of great progressive thought such as Seattle, San Fransisco and Boston. Yeah we can blame the right for that!  Being forced to quarter the miltary in one’s home? Can’t find one on that one.  Warrantless searches (sorry folks thise did NOT happen) and seizure of private property without due process? Hmmm again I point to the grand bastions of progressive tryanny. BUSHCO….NOT!!!

Denial of voting rights?  This one gets real, real old.  WHO again has been denied voting rights (it is pretty darn convenient to ignore the thousands of absentee ballots submitted by serviceman because Dade county election officials didn’t see a postmark…). Oh I get it, you all are upset ecause you can’t vote often enough, or to cast votes on behalf of those you feel that you must cast votes for because the end justifies the means…

A few passing thoughts:

1.  Who sought to remove the rights of citizens to keep and bear arms? 

2.  Who has decided that using certain words and terms are destructive and hurtfull cannot be tolerated, while the use of terms such as white-bread and “country” are just fine? 

3.  Who has instituted Stalinist speech codes and sought to suppress the right of dissent on campuses because “progressive” free speech can only be truly free if progressive speech is unopposed?

4. Why is it that actions equivalent to college fraternity/sorority pranks are equated with torture?

5. Why is it that those who are detained in the “oppressive squallor of Gitmo” and who have confesses to real murder and real assasinations are given more in regards to “rights” than those of the US Border Patrol and the US Military?

6.  Why is you people want to have the priviledge of police protection when you feel threatened, but a shop owner in Seattle or Berkley can be violently ruined in the name of progress and is truly denied equal protection under the law?

I could go on and on. I can tell you for a certainty, all the above are not the work of the right!!!

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By Shenonymous, November 10, 2008 at 4:13 am Link to this comment

tam, I was not responding to your question as I thought it was rhetorical.  With just a bit of research, analyses of the two elections 2000, 2004 are easily found.  And to answer your question, it depends on which election to which you are referring.  It is not always apparent how the presidential elections are decided.

For 2000, there are a few different answers you may pick from depending on your views.  You could say “the people,” but that is misleading since although the most of the people in the nation voted for Gore, the electoral college of each state actually casts it vote depending on which candidate won the majority of the votes of that state.  For a map of the way the states voted, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2000
Gore won 50,999,897 or 48.4% of the vote, Bush 50,456,002 or 47.9%  But each state has a different number of electoral votes and the map shows how many each state provided in that election.  Bush had 271, Gore 266.  Bush won by 5 electoral votes.  As my grandmother would say, Mah!

However, the states of Ohio and Florida were contentious on who should get the electoral vote.  Scroll down the wikipedia article to see the results of that vote.  The Florida Supreme Court made a decision to recount, but the US Supreme Court decided that was unconstitutional.  The Congress had to certify the electoral and although there were objections filed by the Congressional Black Caucus, it needed one senator to sponsor the objection.  Not one senator objected.  So in effect, the Senate decided the outcome. 

For an analysis of the 2004 election see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2004
A controversy also emerged and you should read particularly the sections Vote Splitting Concerns and Battleground states.  Ohio was the pivotal state this time, and the Ohio Secretary of Sate made a statement that statistically the Democrats could not make up enough valid votes based on provisional votes.  Kerry conceded but it was later learned he would have won Ohio.  That would have given him the electoral votes to win the election.  Again, Mah!  Tough toenails for him and tough toenails for the country.  Bush won the popular vote by 3 million votes.  Who elected Bush in 2004?  You decide.  For my opinion, John Kerry elected George Bush.

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By tam, November 9, 2008 at 10:31 pm Link to this comment
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i’ve read both Mark’s comment and Shenonymous’ comment.  It were well written, well thought out.  But, you both fail to answered my simple question.  That question was ” Who elected The President of The United States of America, Mr. bush that is?.”

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By Shenonymous, November 9, 2008 at 5:16 am Link to this comment

Contrition is often a noble act when there is something deserving of it.  And one can dearly feel the loss of another with no attendant criticism merited.  Ones beliefs cannot be assailed, it is an absolute truism.  But to put those sentimental beliefs in public invites comment.

In my estimation, George W. Bush is not worthy of the epithet “good” in any way.  I am ashamed for this country he was ever elected president, not only once, but utterly ashamed he was elected twice.  It is not because he actually won.  There is mounting evidence the elections were rigged and actually stolen from the democratic ruled people.  Their voices went unheard and their government stolen by the wealthy who bastardized the law in the guise of the Supreme Court.  There can be no honor in that.  Aside, and without depreciating that as an aside, the deaths of over 4000 American soldiers, the results of his elections were the direct cause of millions of Iraqis being killed, millions more displaced, their homes and country destroyed.  While the murder of Saddam Hussein can be argued was an Iraqi virtue, since they in the end did execute him, it is not without blood on Americans’ hands, and just like Pilate, George W. Bush, will bear that responsibility through eternity.  His name is anathema on millions of lips. 

His imperialistic policies to force democracy on a world not ready to take that form of government and his economic policies that ignored the real needs of his own people in the United States has plunged this country and the world into the deepest economic crises ever known, worse than the financial fiasco in 1929.  The ramifications of his policies will be felt for generations as our descendents will bear the burden of rebuilding what he has completely broken.  He is without a doubt the worse president in the history of America.  He alone bears the responsibility to have been the puppet of the rich and powerful.  His name will be on the indictment in the history books.

So you, Mark Brower, go right ahead and miss dearly your George W. Bush.  The one who did not falter to be instrument of destruction of millions, whose resolve put billions of dollars into the pockets of the corporate war machine and at every turn provided advantage to those rich and powerful whose scavenges have set this country into an almost depression condition.  You go right ahead and make your statement of supplication and bow to the emperor of misery.  I will not.  And the sooner he is gone the better the world will be. And I am proud of this nation that has taken that force away and will now be able to be a righteous and proud nation under the leadership of a truly bright, intelligent, man, Barack Obama, who will demonstrate he understands and will give us the real definition of compassion.

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By Mark Brower, November 9, 2008 at 12:01 am Link to this comment
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George W. Bush is a good man and I am ashamed for turning on a president that never turned on me.  The national and world events over the last 8 years have been nearly unprecedented in their magnitude.  As a nation we have suffered great losses.  President Bush largely handled these losses with a good dose of humanity, decency and dependability.

In recent weeks I have found myself joining with the throngs of Bush-haters in despsiting the man: his partisan politics, his too-loyal cabinet, his ignorance and inaction.  Today I feel ashamed for turning my back on a man that loves his country dearly and has sacrificed selflessly on her behalf.  History will eventually remember George W. Bush for what he is: A brave and unfaltering leader.  A God-fearing and resolute man.  A true friend and a compassionate servant of the people.  I believe I will miss him dearly.

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By tam, November 7, 2008 at 11:52 pm Link to this comment
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okay who voted for the guy?

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By skiptowne, October 6, 2008 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

As bad as Reagan & Bush was/is, it’s the Congress who ultimately votes for or against the bills that come up. They’re the ones who voted for funding the Iraq war, for deregulation, for their earmarks, and now for the “bailout”. The Prez can’t veto a majority vote. Correct me if I’m wrong.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/

http://earmarkwatch.org/

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By Shenonymous, August 29, 2008 at 4:40 am Link to this comment

Not to say there is no virtue in it, as it is revealing, The Triumph of Politics is book out since 1986.  For those interested there is a sober review at BrothersJudd:
http://brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/611/Triumph of P.htm
On that site is a collection of many related articles that warrant the attention as well.

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By Nick kelly, August 28, 2008 at 11:54 pm Link to this comment
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It boggles the mind that anyone could think the US under Clinton or anyone else could have not a national debt but a national surplus. Clinton ran ANNUAL surpluses, thus reducing the DEBT ( accumulated) since 1789 to 3 trillion and change. If you don’t know the difference between the annual deficit and the total debt, I think you should just read for a while. ( By the way, the first real explosion of the debt occurred under Reagan, who ran on reducing the debt and then doubled it in four years from one trillion to 2 trillion. In a sense he was a forerunner of Bush,  sold as an idiot- savant. See Triumph of Politics by David Stockman, the most candid and devastating book by a Cabinet Officer ( before this crop)       
From Canada,  Nick

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By Joann, April 26, 2008 at 8:52 am Link to this comment
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You are 100% correct.

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By Shenonymous, April 6, 2008 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment

Eric B. I agree with you completely.  What do you say can be done about it?  Are they about to elect a man who follows George like a lap dog?

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By Eric B., April 6, 2008 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
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Not only once but twice elected into office, America got what they deserved, the worst President in the history of the Country.

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By SparksFly, April 5, 2008 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment
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I know why he is smiling. He is smiling because his agenda is working and being fulfilled. He successfully started an unnecessary war, ignored Katrina before & after she landed, created a higher drop out rate with No Child Left Behind, has circumvented the Constitution in every possible way imaginable except for the ways he hasn’t yet circumvented it, has gained total control of the sheeple who constantly fear a terrorist will target their specific subdivision even though they will more likely die of cancer or an accident instead, has gotten richer, signed legislation loosening credit restrictions to help speed up the housing crisis which along with ignoring the rising cost of fuel that is causing the rising cost of everything else, has led us into recession, and need I go on? I think not. The ultimate goal? Complete control of the resulting chaos and ownership of this country along with his fascist friends. What better way to gain that than by leading this country into the modern version of the dark ages? Call me paranoid. I don’t mind. At least I see what is coming. It saddens me that so many don’t.

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By steve, March 24, 2008 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment
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I am so embarrassed.  I guess i didn’t spell “propaganda” correctly.  I have no idea how i could have made such a silly mistake.  Maybe it’s the three jobs i am now working which keep me up day and night; which happened after losing my “real” job after being “outsourced” or “downsized” and taking a different job for less money and most importantly less benefits.  But again, back to the orginal point, why shouldn’t Bush be happy; none of what has happened to me and the rest of the middle class in this country will ever happen to him or his family.

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By steve, March 24, 2008 at 12:09 pm Link to this comment
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Of course he is smiling.  Why wouldn’t he be?  He has been a great success and has achieved everything he set out to do.  Enrich his friends and himself.  He is set financially and will enjoy a comfortable retirement.  He will live in his bubble well protected on his ranch from all of us with all his secret security protection while listening to his ipod everyday which he supposedly loves so much.  At least according to fox news which, I admit, i do watch from time to time for the latest proganda.  Why wouldn’t he be smiling?

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By Maani, March 24, 2008 at 6:41 am Link to this comment

Cyrena:

“I’ve never heard a more tortured logic response than the below from Maani.”

Idealism is a good, noble, even critical thing.  However, “realism” is never “tortured logic.”

The REALITY is that whoever becomes the next president is almost certainly going to have to spend the next four years just cleaning up the mess Bush left behind, and will have little time or ability to make (much less implement) any bold, new gestures or policies (though I suppose any good policy to undo various aspects of the Bush regime could be seen as “bold”).  And since the economic portion of that mess is SO bad (and getting worse), it is likely, as I note, that either OBama or Clinton would “disappoint” in this regard, because, sadly, most people do NOT understand the “realism” of the situation and think that all it will take is a policy here and a policy there, a nip and a tuck, and the economic problems will begin to self-correct.  Poppycock.

Re “Maani, you could fuck up a wet dream,” as I noted to Louise, that is EXACTLY my goal: getting the Obamamaniacs here to wake up from their wet dream of Obama to see the realities.

Peace.

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By amunaor, March 23, 2008 at 7:33 pm Link to this comment

A Bankrupt Superpower
The Collapse of American Power
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

...The fact of the matter is that the US is bankrupt. David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the US and head of the Government Accountability Office, in his December 17, 2007, report to the US Congress on the financial statements of the US government noted that “the federal government did not maintain effective internal control over financial reporting (including safeguarding assets) and compliance with significant laws and regulations as of September 30, 2007.” In everyday language, the US government cannot pass an audit.

Moreover, the GAO report pointed out that the accrued liabilities of the federal government “totaled approximately $53 trillion as of September 30, 2007.” No funds have been set aside against this mind boggling liability.

Just so the reader understands, $53 trillion is $53,000 billion.

Frustrated by speaking to deaf ears, Walker recently resigned as head of the Government Accountability Office….

Full Story:

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts03182008.html

The excrement just hasn’t hit the, proverbial, circulating receptacle yet!

With a pocket full of gold coins, these conceited empty souls clearly betray their true desire by the words that fall from their mouths and resonate in our ears.

In the words of John McCain: F—- You!
In the words of Dick Cheney: So What!
In the words of a xenophobic god, crusader GW Bush: If you’re not with us, you’re a terrorist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk1vEuhBuEU

In the words of Hillary Clinton: Experience as Usual (Who loves McCain more than she does her own and to prove it, is willing to destroy the village in order to save it.)

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

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By cyrena, March 23, 2008 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment

Bill Blackolive,

You are correct here. There can be no resolution until we’ve addressed the truth of the mechanism that was utilized to begin the road to fascism.

I will revisit the site, (patriots question) because it’s been a while, and I’m sure that there are updates, as more people gain more courage.

My very huge concern is now and always has been, the fact that most of the concrete evidence needed to access the truth of those events has long since been destroyed. That doesn’t mean that we can’t or shouldn’t use what we DO have, in the form of our own witness or testimony to the truth.

Thanks..

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By Shenonymous, March 23, 2008 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

Many thanks Fadel for your gracious welcome.  However, that was then and this is now (to borrow a cinematic phrase).  And truth must now be foremost.  While there are Greeks in my heritage and for that I am grateful, I am of Italian descent in the last four generations.  We bloggers often use masques for protection. I enjoy my actual ethnicity immensely.  I hope telling you this does not change your perception of me as I do not think ethnicity makes the person.  I do not think of you primarily as a Middle Easterner but only as a thinking man, and I can appreciate your being Muslim. I do work in education as previously stated elsewhere and I am a scholar of philosophy as described in the Hitchens forum.  Based on your post here, I think you must be open-minded (after all).  Italians love the olive trees as much as any Greek or Middle Easterner and for the same reasons.  I will share with you what you could not know and that is I regard the intellect and philosophical mind of the Islamic cultures as close to that of the Greeks.  The westerners have not really had that much education about the pursuit of wisdom in the Middle East.  I am currently being tutored, in a manner of speaking, by a highly intelligent Muslim and learning, albeit slowly, but with interest about the culture and beliefs of Islam.  I remain an atheist, however, who is wholly concerned about the welfare of the human race, regardless of ethnicity or culture.  Although I have no religious faith, I do believe all people have worth and a right to dignity and a decent life.  I have a great deal of tolerance toward people of faith.  I do have a repugnance for militant and violent religion of any denomination.  Religion, though, is another topic and I think discussion of it is best reserved for other forums. 

In this discussion I am concerned with the view of this worst president in the history of this country’s legacy which is in my view as negative as a legacy can be.  His leadership, if it could even qualify to be called that, has led this country into the worst economic state it has ever been in, even when there was a great depression in the 1930s, and it will take generations to repair.  There is not one thing that could be said as good about this presidency.  The Bush War, which I have called it since the first day of the preemptive strike in Iraq, has been the most evil of acts in which this country has ever engaged.  There is no legacy except one of iniquitous calamity.

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By Hammo, March 23, 2008 at 8:43 am Link to this comment

What is frightening about the legacy of failure (and death and destruction) of the Bush-Cheney administration, is that they may attack Iran as their final task in office.

The recent “resignation” of Adm. William Fallon seems to be an indication that this is a possibility.

More on this in the articles:

“Will Bush, Cheney Attack Iran? When and Why?”

Truthout.org
02 February 2007

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020207A.shtml

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“Military Draft Needed for War With Iran and Syria?”

Truthout.org
20 September 2006

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/64/22754

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 23, 2008 at 8:21 am Link to this comment

By Shenonymous, March 22 at 6:49 am #

Offering an olive branch to you Fadel, after our enmity of the past, I surprise myself at how much I agree with you these days.  Perhaps we are not adversaries as much as might have been thought?
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Welcome back Shenonymous! I am glad that you have been reading my short and sporadic comments on Truthdig and that you have found we are not adversaries as much as might have been thought.

Thank you especially for offering an olive branch; it means a lot to me. Olives, olive oils and olive trees mean a lot to people who were born and lived around the Mediterranean basin. Since you come from Greek ancestry, you know these things. When I was doing my undergraduate work in Alexandria, Egypt in the 1960’s, I had many Greek friends and, in fact, my first love was a Greek girl. The point in stating this is that normal Muslims are as open-minded as they can come. Our disagreements in the past were centered around faith: you were strong advocate of atheism and I was an advocate of faith and its values. In this connection, I want to share with you a piece of information that most likely you do not know. Muslims highly valued Greek philosophy and thought to the point that Aristotle has earned among the Muslim philosophers the honorific title of “The First Teacher.” I consider myself a student of Aristotle, Plato and Socrates as I consider myself a student of Islam, Christianity and Judaism. And there is no contradiction in that.

I hope that your open-mindedness will expand to include more tolerance toward people of faith.

Cheers and all the best!

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The President smiles. You’re all still being kept awake at night because you’re worried that somewhere, somebody is having a good time.

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By cyrena, March 22, 2008 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment

Shenon

In your conversations with Fadel, you are right on my efforts to put this authoritarian state stuff with the Cheney operation. Indeed, we know that George Bush is evil, but I’ve said many times, that he could never have pulled this off on his own.

An excellent article by WR Pitt, gets us back to where it all began, (with Dick Cheney) and it’s been a long time in the making.

The article, entitled “Why?” is at the link below.“Politics is the art of controlling your environment”

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031908R.shtml

I should also use another quote from Dick Cheney that dates back to the Florida recount of 2000:

•  “. Dick Cheney was up front with Bush campaign minions during the 2000 Florida recount, “Just get control of the Oval Office ... it doesn’t matter how ... just do it.” Machiavelli could not have said it better himself.”

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030608A.shtml

From there, we can consider some comments from Nabih yesterday, when he was annoyed that the NeoCon operation had been referenced as a ‘movement’ in the article about the Rise and Fall of the Neocons. He was understandably annoyed because he (and most of us) view a “movement” as a mass of people behind a common cause.

However, in the sense of the Neocon movement, we can also compare it to the ‘movements’ of Nazism and Communism. Both were intended as GLOBAL DOMINATION of their fundamental ideologies. Both of these movements, (totalitarian in nature) were undertaken by basically a relatively small group that enabled. (No larger in number than the US Congress, Courts, CIA, Pentagon, etc)

Both of these movements depended on destabilization, and maintaining that chaos. They used terror, propaganda, secrecy, and the duplication of government offices/agencies/the bureaucracy. Both were totally inefficient economically speaking. I mean they wasted tons of money. Above all, chaos was the name of the game. ANY stability, even if it was in a totally new form of stability, such as a new set of laws, or a new order of government, could not be allowed. People will adjust to that. Rather, INSTABILITY had to reign.

I suspect that is as much the point of the neocon operation as it has been in the past, for other totalitarian movements with global aspirations.

The “plan” on Iraq
•  “We can only conclude that following the occupation, the US had no intention of rebuilding Iraq and indeed as I’ve pointed out, the US is on record as saying that it’s not in the business of ‘nation-building’, so, what is the ‘Plan’?”

•  “Iraq is unlike earlier wars of aggression waged by the West. The intention is not to acquire land or even markets (in the accepted sense of the word), nor is it a strategic acquisition designed to block an enemy state. Even the oil is not in and of itself an objective, for as events have shown, the oil is worth even more underground than it is by having it in circulation. Moreover, denying access to the oil by the US’s major competitors, gains a strategic economic advantage for US capital.

•  “..even more importantly, the creation of a ‘failed state’ destabilizes the region which weakens opposition to imperial plans and as we have witnessed, it also creates the pre-conditions for extending the ‘area of instability’ Eastward.”

•    “The objective here is to foment dissent and create instability in the country or region and as with Iran, actually strengthen the hand of reactionary forces within the country. We’ve seen it in Cuba for decades, for how can a country which has been blockaded and under constant threat of invasion and subversion develop normally? But then this is the entire point, countries like Cuba and Venezuela have to be shown to the rest of the world to be failures, there can be no successful alternative to capitalism.”

Rumors of War, Destabilization is Name of Game
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m42274&hd;=&size=1&l=e

More when I’m done.

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By cyrena, March 22, 2008 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment

Thanks for the figures Shenon…

I’ve never heard a more tortured logic response than the below from Maani. No doubt he’ll beat his record though.

After all of this research on the money, he’s decided that it doesn’t matter who the next president is, because they are ‘bound to disappoint’.

Maani, you could fuck up a wet dream.

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By msgmi, March 22, 2008 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment
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GW’s legacy is historically unprecedented…no historical figure has been as consistent as GW…truly a remarkable record…as an oil businessman he was a failure…as governor, he presided over more capital punishment executions than any other governor…as president, need more be said…national security, the economy, and the American people are facing unpresidented tests. Long live the the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent King whose legacy will be remebered forever.

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By Outraged, March 22, 2008 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment

I didn’t claim that there was SIMILARITY between this and Obama’s preacher.  I think this is MUCH, MUCH MORE CATACLYSMIC as it is a cultish, secretive group steeped in fundamentalism. 

I have never found Mother Jones or The Nation to “make up” articles or to embellish.  So your nonchalant perspective of this matter is without merit.  The BOOK is due to be released in May, we’ll see then.

“Jeff Sharlet’s shocking exposé The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.”  The Nation.

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By JimBob, March 22, 2008 at 12:12 pm Link to this comment

I’ve said it before.  Bush was put in place to enrich a certain very thin stratum of the world’s population and he’s done it.  All the things we consider “disastrous” and “tragic” he doesn’t give two shites about.  So sure, he’s grinning.  He can’t wait to get out of this job and start basking in the gratitude of those he’s enriched.  What a great retirement.  Does he care what you or I think?  Not one whit, he’ll be insulated from us and our opinion of him forever.  Gnash your teeth all you want, he’s won the game as far as he’s concerned.  We really should stop talking about what an idiot he is and move on to how we’re going to get back some of what we’ve lost on his watch.

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By Maani, March 22, 2008 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

Shenonymous:

“While I have the absolute figures wrong, I have the intent of my comments right.  Each and everyone of us, including our children and babies, will have to pay for George W. Bush’s huge fiasco as president.”

No argument here.  And this is why it almost doesn’t matter whether Hillary or Obama is the next president: WHOEVER it is is going to have to deal with this, and I don’t envy them.  And since it is highly unlikely that EITHER of them will make any significant dent in this problem, WHOEVER is the next president is almost certain to disappoint.

Indeed, if Hillary is president and is unable to deal with the economy to a significant degree, the Hillary-bashers here will say, “See?”  And vice versa if Obama becomes president and ends up having the same problem.

And, of course, no matter WHICH one ends up in this position, the GOP will have all the fodder it needs in 2012 to say, “See?  The Democrats have been unable to do anything about the economy.”

BOTH candidates are essentially “damned if they and damned if they don’t.”

Peace.

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By Bill Blackolive, March 22, 2008 at 11:20 am Link to this comment
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Hokay, one thousand howling at patriotsquestion 9/11, militariy men, Sharon Stone and beautiful people, engineers the largest category, firemen bothering Michael Moorer, this is enough to bust on into corporate television already and save our country.  But, hurry.

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By Shenonymous, March 22, 2008 at 9:05 am Link to this comment

Maani, thank you once again for correcting me.  I found the figures in my last post on this topic online.  Apparently I do not know how to verify what is found electronically.  But a good explanation of how the budget/surplus/deficit works can be found at:
http://www.marktaw.com/culture_and_media/TheNationalDebt.html

Also at http://budget.house.gov/
is information on the facts of the debt and the budget
I will presume the information from the House might be accurate relatively speaking? 
The current US Debt today March 22 is:    $9,393,587,213,977.10 over $9 trillion. 
Your share of the national debt:    $30,931.98
So for a famiy of 4.3 that is $133,007.51 owed for the national debt.

I am not confusing the debt with the budget.  The budget as per the House website “invests in proven programs to boost economic growth, provides fiscally responsible tax relief and help for struggling families, and provides the resources to make America safer.” 

To see the distinction between debt and deficit, please navigate to
http://www.federalbudget.com/
When Congress has to borrow money to pay for the US expenditures (appropriations), then the interest has to be paid.  The total borrowed is more than $9,000,000,000,000 and growing.  Again, the debt is seen at over $9 trillion.  I think that is a negative???? Right????  So if there was a surplus when Clinton left office of $3 trillion, I believe that is a positive????  then the net loss is $12 trillion since the 3 trillion is gone and an added 9 trillion even more gone????  Is my logic off again?  I’m sure if it is you will graciously correct me.  Thank you ahead of time.

While I have the absolute figures wrong, I have the intent of my comments right.  Each and everyone of us, including our children and babies, will have to pay for George W. Bush’s huge fiasco as president.

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By Maani, March 22, 2008 at 8:02 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous:

You are confusing two things: the budget and the national debt.

Re the budget, Clinton left office having created the largest budget surplus in history.  The amount is disputed, but runs from $127 billion on the low side to $559 billion on the high side.  The number I have seen most often is ~$250 billion, though a number of economists put it at closer to $400 billion.

By 2004, GWB was running a budget deficit of $319 billion, and by 2005, it was $521 billion.

Re the national debt, Clinton had paid down more of it than any president in history, and was on track to pay down the entire debt by 2012.  When Clinton left office, the national debt was around $4.5 trillion.  However, GWB has doubled it, and the current national debt is now a touch under $10 trillion.

Under Clinton, the national debt decreased each year of his presidency, going from 70% to 60% of GDP. Under GWB, the debt is increasing at the rate of $1.5 billion per DAY.

Peace.

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By Shenonymous, March 22, 2008 at 7:49 am Link to this comment

Offering an olive branch to you Fadel, after our enmity of the past, I surprise myself at how much I agree with you these days.  Perhaps we are not adversaries as much as might have been thought?  I hope this is true.  I especially appreciate your renaming this article “Bush’s Legacy of Evil.”  The only problem I have with your argument is that I believe it is not simply Bush’s deliberate intention of evil, it is his coterie, his cohorts who have the intentions, and he is merely their instrument to carry them out.  I also think these evils need to be spelled out over and over and over again lest anyone forget when they put their pen to ballot in November.  For instance, the Bush War for oil in Iraq that could not have been waged without the assistance of his cabinet, the Congress, the Supreme Court.  The only ideas that Tolstoy had, in my estimation, had to do with his model of how colonialism such as Napoleon waged against Russia, and elsewhere by extension, could not have been engaged without those others who supported the military campaign.  That Napoleon solely could not have done what he did, that others were more culpable.  The same here with Bush.  Evil by association, to be sure, but all of the evil factions need to be exposed and exposed often

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 22, 2008 at 7:31 am Link to this comment

Of course, any reasonable and informed citizen would agree and relate to all what Robert Scheer talks about in this article. However, to entitle the piece as “Bush’s Legacy of Failure” is a mild way of putting it, which, in fact, humanizes Bush since we are all bound to fail even when we have the best intentions to succeed. However, in the case of Bush, it’s all deliberate evil. Therefore, the piece would have been more appropriately entitled as “Bush’s Legacy of Evil.”

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By Maani, March 22, 2008 at 7:25 am Link to this comment

Outraged:

This is straight out of the Obama tit-for-tat playbook.

The Family (and the Fellowship) are bipartisan; there is nothing “nefarious” or “sinister” about a Democrat learning and praying with (ohmigod!) Republicans.  Hillary has not been a member of the Family for 20 years, and has not attended nearly as many of the “services” of the Family as Obama has at Trinity.  She was not married by David Coe.  Her child was not baptized by David Coe.  David Coe is not her “spiritual advisor.” She does not consider David Coe “family” the way Obama does Rev. Wright.

There is ZERO similarity here.  Stop grasping at straws.

Peace.

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By amunaor, March 21, 2008 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment

Thanks!

I’ve seen Hillary’s ‘Young Republicans’ connection, but the ‘National Prayer Breakfast’ club is quite interesting and new to me. I wonder if this will arouse any traction?

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

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By Inherit The Wind, March 21, 2008 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment

It’s obvious what happened: Bush was grounded because he refused to take a physical.  There’s only ONE reason a flyer won’t take a physical: Because he knows he’ll never pass it.

Why wouldn’t he pass it and what was worse than taking it an failing and being grounded anyway?  They’d find the cocaine in his blood and then he’d be court-martialed.  Better to be grounded for refusing a physical than land in the stockade with a dishonorable discharge after years locked up.

He should STILL have been kicked out, but you don’t do that to a high cabinet officer’s son, and the grandson of a senator.

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By cyrena, March 21, 2008 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment

Paraguay…that’s his escape destination.

Cheney’s…Dubai.

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By Bill Blackolive, March 21, 2008 at 11:09 am Link to this comment
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B. Scheer and S. Ritter are informed and brave and scared but without declaring the 9/ll coverup there is no beginning to any change from ugly road to fascism.  9/ll really ought to be seen as a gift, a way to shock our most indoctrinated on Earth. Yes, then who, Muslims, Koreans, ignorance from fear. That is different from our fixed ignorance from brainwashed vanity.  S. Korean cousins been in touch with N. Korean cousins all along, naturally, same souls Earthwide.  Shock the US poor devils into questioning authority. Go to patriotsquestion9/11. for courage.

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By Shenonymous, March 21, 2008 at 6:42 am Link to this comment

Whether Bill Clinton is the best president of modern times or not would obviously be an idle debate depending on one’s entrenched political position.  The point is that America did have, factually, a surplus in the nation’s coffers of thee trillion ($3,000,000,000,000.00), that is the number 3 in terms of dollars with 12 zeros after it before a decimal sign.  Now there is a minus 12 trillion dollars, that is a negative $12,000,000,000,000.00.  In effect that is a $15,000,000,000,000.00 or fifteen trillion dollars deficit.  In as much as we have roughly about 600 million people in this country, that is about $50,000.00 for each and every person, man, woman and child that is owed to pay off the debts.  For a average family of 2.3 children (as per Oxford Journals), that is 4.3 x $50,000.00, that is in the neighborhood of $215,000.00 they owe to pay off the debt.  Americans like to put dollar signs on everything, homes, cars, love relationships, politics, religions, literally everything, so putting the legacy of George W. Bush in the dollar perspective, we can see that we have certainly lost just about everything we have, except maybe the air we breathe and even that has lost a lot of quality.

While using the game of chess is a classic analogy, this is no game folks, the picture is even more bleak when we consider the prospects of a John McCain continuing the practices that the Republican party George W. Bush has forced on us.  You cannot believe even for a nanosecond that McCain would not continue those policies.  Even if he mouths a slightly different scenario, you and I know he lies.  He is now the target to be evaporated.  Or you will reap more of the same and you will deserve it, as Expat so often and rightly says.  The game is avoiding fallng into the abysmal abyss, again!

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By Expat, March 21, 2008 at 6:20 am Link to this comment

^ the waters fine.  You’ll be complimented, flamed, insulted, ridiculed, find friends and generally find out how you’re perceived.  You get to practice your opinionating and develop your style.

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By Victor Berry, March 21, 2008 at 3:58 am Link to this comment
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You’re correct about Bush being a ventriloquist’s dummy, but I think he was modeled after the prototype, Dan Quayle.  Quayle was being groomed for the job by his chief political advisor, Bill Kristol.  Quayle was supposed to be the president in 1996, but H. Ross Perot mucked up the ‘92 election results beyond the control of the Supreme Court.

Quayle, Bush, Romney, ... seems like a pattern of pliable candidates who are appealing to dumbed-down Americans.

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By Expat, March 21, 2008 at 3:42 am Link to this comment

^ actually make a kind of perverse sense.  I’ve long had doubts that it really makes any difference which party is in control.  When we get too pissed off at one of them “they” agree to hand off the “baton” for a term or two.  It resembles an ongoing rape; each taking their turn.  Hm?

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By Outraged, March 21, 2008 at 1:37 am Link to this comment

BTW, just watch the video enough times. Until it doesn’t give you goosebumps. Watch it until it makes you angry.  The anger subsides quickly with just enough leftover….to make you damn sure that that won’t happen here.  Remember, in Nazi Germany when the masses/people figured out that something very serious was going on, they became afraid. A fatal flaw. I’m not saying we’re invincible, but…if there’s something we can do NOW to stop it, we should. (sometimes there is nothing a person CAN do, but we’re not there yet)

These areas need recognition on a wide scale.  That would be number one. In fact, someone a while back posted that there was one in SE Wyoming. I’ve tried to find it using Google Earth but can’t.  Anyone out there able to direct me..?  See… Iowa and Wyoming are remote, and I sense it best to reveal these sites first.  Are they still empty, we(at least I) really don’t know…but America needs to find out and keep tabs on it.  There’s always the locals to help, America’s a big place… lotsa good people.

I think this “core group” of nutwads didn’t count on the masses of Americans who would kinda rather have the America they know and like.

I also know, by a stroke of circumstance, of another “perfect” place for one of these camps, everything’s already there, and hey…the government was “unloading” it CHEAP, airport and everything.  And damn…if it isn’t a stones throw away from a max. security prison, which…if I remember correctly was a “privately controlled” prison.  Am I speculating…of course…isn’t that what thinking people do.

As heartless as it may sound, and I don’t mean to be, we need to put the pressure on and change the situation WHILE WE CAN.  If we do nothing, they’ll kill us anyway.  Many Germans starved and died in their own homes and villages during Hitler’s reign.  They were the “free” Germans.  It all depended exactly where and who you were, luck of the draw…and all that stuff.  Hang tough.

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By cyrena, March 21, 2008 at 1:07 am Link to this comment

THANKS Outraged!!

You’re right that it did get by us. ALTHOUGH…I did have a news letter (from Alternet) in my email box that hinted at something like this, at least from the title…“Is Hillary a Fundamentalist?”

So, as soon as I started reading your post, the ‘connectors’ fired up. And, I followed it through to the article, which sourced the Mother Jones piece as well. (So, it repeats some of the same, and adds a few others as well).

Hillary’s Ties to Religious Fundamentalists

By Barbara Ehrenreich, Barbaraehrenreich.com. Posted March 20, 2008.

“When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, Hillary Clinton is a lot more vulnerable than Barack Obama.”

http://www.alternet.org/election08/80248/

For me at least, most of this information was new. I WAS aware that she’d been a Goldwater Girl early on. (I think before she hooked up with Bill). But then she switched over to the Democrat side. This is what I mean by ‘affiliations’ not always meaning so much, especially political ones. I mean, what does it really mean, (at least these days) to call oneself ANY particular ‘political party’? In all fairness, the current regime in republican clothing has given the original group a bad name. They aren’t just ‘Republicans’, they’re RADICAL repuglicans. Now I’m certainly not suggesting that Hillary is, but I have always suggested that she was a standard repug ‘lite’ despite the banner of the Democrat party.

Meantime, my eye caught yet another article that hit on my own most sensitive ‘nerve’, even more than this revelation of her fundamentalist history. 

I’m getting really, really, sick of all of the distortions. This piece shares my disgust with it all.

Hillary Clinton’s Campaign IEDs (Insinuations, Exaggerations and Distortions)
By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. Posted March 17, 2008.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/79869/

Whatever neutrally-based respect I may have ever had for her has totally reversed itself as I’ve watched her campaign (and she’s done it as well) stoop to the swamp-level cheating.

One might think Karl Rove was running her show.

Speaking of which…thanks for the link to the Cheney stuff. I followed it through to the Think Progress site, which I hadn’t visited in quite a long time.

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By Outraged, March 21, 2008 at 12:03 am Link to this comment

New news about Clinton, or maybe not.  I don’t know how either of these stories got by one of us but here’s excerpts and links. You may have heard some of this before, but I haven’t heard it quite like this.

Mother Jones 2007
“She was a Goldwater Girl who, under the tutelage of her high school history teacher Paul Carlson (whom Jones describes as “to the right of the John Birchers”), attended biweekly anticommunist meetings and later served as president of Wellesley’s Young Republicans chapter. Out of step with the era’s radicalism, Clinton wrote Jones from college, lamenting that her fellow students didn’t believe that one could be “a mind conservative and a heart liberal.”

“Clinton’s prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or “the Family”), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to “spiritual war” on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship’s only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has “made a fetish of being invisible,” former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God’s plan.”

Also from MJ: “The Fellowship’s long-term goal is “a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit.” According to the Fellowship’s archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship’s God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators.”

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-2.html

The Nation, 3-08
“The Family’s most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes—knitting together international networks of right-wing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolf Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs.”

cont. The Nation:
“Clinton fell in with The Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the Senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family’s “most elite cell,” the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia’s notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton.”

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

This might explain why Clinton’s supporters are so often “right-wingers” and possibly why Maani calls himself a pastor. You might want to take the time to read through these articles.  Things are beginning to fall into place…  I told you see was a Republican! And not the nice kind either…. (Geez..I love to say I told you so. LOL)  Could this be why “those” Republicans are voting for her….?

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By GW=MCHammered, March 20, 2008 at 11:56 pm Link to this comment
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America today is about two letters: G & H.
Greed and Hate.
Get mine. Fuck you.

We were the world-envy once because we could see so much more. They watched because we strived for the America of our dreams.

So don’t imagine what might happen “if I try.” See what happens when you “just do try.”

Nations are built on dreams followed by actions.

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By cyrena, March 20, 2008 at 11:43 pm Link to this comment

How does it seem like a ‘nice enough site’ if nobody is here?

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By cindy graffam, March 20, 2008 at 8:36 pm Link to this comment
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Yeah, but if you look carefully you can see the American flag on his lapel.

I immediately felt better, and will now pay my 31% (!) interest on my credit cards with a smile.

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By Outraged, March 20, 2008 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment

The Largest Minority has the video of Cheney. 

Here’s the link:
http://www.jwharrison.com/blog/

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By oketa, March 20, 2008 at 7:56 pm Link to this comment

Impeachment is too good for him.  We should pack him on a rendition flight to Europe and let the Europeans up him on trial for war crimes.  If we sent them a package like that maybe they would forgive us for electing The Idiot in the first place.

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By lornejl, March 20, 2008 at 7:30 pm Link to this comment

“This seems” was my comment title, I get it now.

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By lornejl, March 20, 2008 at 7:26 pm Link to this comment

like a nice enough site, but nobody is here, what a shame.

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By cyrena, March 20, 2008 at 6:24 pm Link to this comment

Ok, I ditto the response from Shenonymous, having just watched the video, and read the article from global research.

The thing (video) gave me the equivalent of severe shock. (goosebumps magnified 3 billion times)

We’ve been hearing of these camps, and of course the skeptics want to blow it all off as ‘conspiracy theories’.

No doubt the same thing was occurring in 1930’s Germany. Or were people simply ignoring it, as in keeping their heads down, as folks were carted away?

Conspiracy theories? I think not.

Outraged, thanks for the research…

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By cyrena, March 20, 2008 at 4:34 pm Link to this comment

Outraged (or anybody)..

I missed wherever Cheney said ‘SO’ when asked about the American disapproval of the war. Liza mentioned the same thing in an earlier post, and if someone has the link to it, (so I can cite it) I’d be most grateful.

Thanks…

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By Jim Miles, March 20, 2008 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment

I agree about impeachment hearings.  Every day goes by without Bush and Cheney being cross-examined under oath is one day closer to the collapse of the rule of law in this country.  Why are we so loath to see justice done?

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By Jim Miles, March 20, 2008 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment

This was a really interesting insight into possible explanations for Bush’s bizarre behaviors.  Thank you.

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By Marnie, March 20, 2008 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment
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Too Right!

I have, as many have, pointed out that the Repocons, like any good crime family - take care of their own.
And he will have SS protection for life.

He will die fat, rich, and happy.  And probably overseas somewhere.

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By sam brown, March 20, 2008 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

Joe, register and your posts will appear instantaneously… simple as. (I had the same problem, as others have had, before registering.)

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By Solon, March 20, 2008 at 11:18 am Link to this comment
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Here’s something to consider… Bush & Co. have no intention of leaving the White House.

A “terrorist disaster” happens.

Elections suspended for the “good of the country and national security.”

Invasion into Iran to catch the “evil doers.”

Doomsday for the Republic.

May your chains weigh lightly upon you, for chained you will be.

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By Shenonymous, March 20, 2008 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

Jeezus!

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By Montemalone, March 20, 2008 at 10:13 am Link to this comment
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Don’t forget that the 30% park their fat backsides in some church pew every week, where they spew their hatred of the other 70%.

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By Montemalone, March 20, 2008 at 10:08 am Link to this comment
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In other words, he’s a republican.

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By STORMY7, March 20, 2008 at 9:43 am Link to this comment
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THAT IS THE SMILING FACE OF PURE EVIL. EVERYONE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION SMILES THAT WAY.

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By Relaxed Willy, March 20, 2008 at 9:18 am Link to this comment
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The Rules Don’t Apply to You

How did it start?
Who taught your tender heart such a primitive view:
That you’re entitled, whatever you do,
And rules don’t apply to you?

You don’t need laws, you don’t need science,
You don’t need reason or truth.
Stubborn and reckless, you do as you choose.
Rules don’t apply to you.

Katrina, Iraq, the debt on our backs -
See all the damage you’ve done.
Secrets and lies cannot disguise
All of your failures our country is bleeding from.

How can it end while you pretend
Your failed illusions are true?
You smear your critics and fake-up the news;
Rules don’t apply to you.

Katrina, Iraq, the debt on our backs -
See all the damage you’ve done.
Secrets and lies cannot disguise
All of your failures our country is bleeding from.

Full speed ahead. Don’t mind the poor, the dead -
Hey they ain’t nothin’ to you.
Just serve yourself and the privileged few.
Rules don’t apply to you.

Full speed ahead. Don’t mind the poor, maimed, or dead -
Your party approves!
It’s not exactly what Jesus would do,
But rules don’t apply to you.
Laws don’t apply to you.
Science don’t apply to you.
Facts don’t apply to you.
Reason don’t apply to you.
Ethics don’t apply to you.
Constitution don’t apply to you.
I said, Constitution don’t apply to you.
The rules have never applied…to you.

©2006 Miracle Horse Music/Heaven on Earth Music

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By Relaxed Willy, March 20, 2008 at 9:10 am Link to this comment
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http://www.myspace.com/relaxedwilly

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By Outraged, March 20, 2008 at 8:37 am Link to this comment

Maybe this is why Bush is smiling and Cheney said, “So” when asked about the American peoples condemnation of the war.

“On May 9, 2007 President George Bush reasserted the role of the Federal government during a declared emergency by issuing Executive Order NSPD 51/ HSPD-20. The Order states that in the event of a ‘catastrophic emergency’ all ‘national essential functions’ may be taken over by the Executive branch of government and the Department of Homeland Security (including FEMA).”

“In January of 2007 the American Civil Liberties Union released a report based on documents obtained by a Freedom of Information Act suit showing that the Pentagon had monitored at least “186 anti-military protests in the United States and collected more than 2,800 reports involving Americans in an anti-terrorist threat database.”

“For some time FEMA has been renovating and constructing new detention camps throughout the country. In January 2006 Haliburton subsidiary KBR announced that it had been awarded an “indefinite delivery / indefinite quantity contract to construct detention facilities for the Department of Homeland Security worth a maximum of $385 million over 5 years.”

“A current estimate of the number of detainment camps is over 800 located in all regions of the United States with varying maximum capacities. [27] If one includes government buildings currently used for other purposes the number is far greater.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7763

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

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By Eamon, March 20, 2008 at 8:09 am Link to this comment
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Read Ms Klein’s book; should be read in every high school. Well-written, thoughtful and very informative. The kind of shock therapy applied by the asses of evil starting w/Friedman and Reagan and going on with the bushites, is deadly. The information in Naomi’s book is vital.

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By Expat, March 20, 2008 at 7:03 am Link to this comment

^ but your English is tortured.

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By Nutty Tax Prof, March 20, 2008 at 2:35 am Link to this comment
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For christmas—though I do not celebrate it—I received a daily Bushism Calender.  A Bushism is much more than a slip of the tongue; for example, a slip of the tongue is a random speaking error where one might mislabel a noun or call someone by a different name, or misstate a well known fact.  Nevertheless, they’d be well aware of the error.

A Bushism, on the other hand, is (daily) a real-life, well documented example of Bush making comments and answering questions that unmistakenly demonstrate that whatever brains this man once had were destroyed by his youthful indescretions, i.e., they are long gone.  The only other explanation is that he was given a big brain by mmistake when, for him, a spinal cord would have sufficed.

For example, he makes inexcusable nonsequiturs, violates even the simplest and most well-known rules of standard English, or makes these nonsensical sentences that leave the reader feeling as if they he were punched in the head by Joe Louis.  Each Bushism is very funny and make my day, every day—e.g., “is our children reading,” which he made shortly before reading a book (upside down, BTW) to a group of pre-schoolers.  Originally, I mistakenly chalked his strikingly error rate—there are enouth of these to make an annual calendar without repetition—it up to some sort of dyslexia.  But now I am beginning to think that something is truly wrong with this clown.  After all, were it dyslexia, he could undergo rehab and I am certain that the repubs would see to it he get the best treatment.

So, which is it (1) his partying days or (2) an irreparable genetic birth defect? 

Not sure but assuming that the former applies, he might be our best defense against hardcore partying, drug abuse, alchoholism and the long term effects thereof. 

All of this leads me to believe one thing: Americans are truly, well frankly, dumb.

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By GW=MCHammered, March 19, 2008 at 10:44 pm Link to this comment
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Bush is laughing because EVEN HE can do this, screw the American people into submission. Something smell afoul yet? yet? yet? yet…?

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By amunaor, March 19, 2008 at 10:34 pm Link to this comment

I heard Cheney’s arrogant comment on Olbermann. The careless expression on his face, said it all. Following Cheney’s selfish remark, Olbermann framed it by stating that Cheney had just finished a grueling day in Oman on a yacht fishing along with the Shaw.

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

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By samosamo, March 19, 2008 at 9:59 pm Link to this comment

I have to take exception to this as I believe there is and/or was enough evidence to prove that the republican party is guilty of voter fraud in 2004 in Ohio and the 5 supreme court justices that stopped the recount in Florida in 2000 were illegally using their position to give the election to w, especially when they stopped the vote recount when it was apparent that Gore was going to end up with winning the state of Florida. And jimmy baker III or what ever wasn’t about to let that happen.

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By joe magner, March 19, 2008 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment
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i have sent two comments in and not had one published yet even tho i have received many emails saying there were new comments to be read.

do you censor that much here?

i certainly am loosing respect for you all.

i consider my self a progressive and liberal but not in the way that many do evidentiall and now certianly i have lost respect for your openness.

hopefully you will tell me i am mistaken, but at least as the moderators tell me what your standars are for publishing.

btw - i am part of the oldest continouese anti war vigil in the U.S. i beleive. We have not missed standing at the courthouse on 4th ave for one hour EVERY DAY since the bush asshole went into Afghanistian. Certaily i have not been at every one, but there have been at least 2 of us there every day.

So im not an a.h. neocon but very anti war and anti bush. I am also part of the founding memebers of alternatives to war in corvallis, which formed at the time of - before we went into afghanistian, the vigil was the response to the invasion.

thank you
joseph l magner
1335 nw 23rd st
Corvallis, or 97330

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By Elizabeth Young, March 19, 2008 at 8:52 pm Link to this comment
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What you have to say sounds good, but there is also a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. With two personality disorders, the patient would have to be extraordinarily motivated to make any changes.  Mr. Bush appears to think everything is just fine; why should he change?

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By Jon, March 19, 2008 at 8:25 pm Link to this comment

An earlier posting mentioned this but I think it is worth mentioning again. Cheney’s comment today sums up the attitude of this administration, when he said SO,in response to Diane Sawyer’s question about 75% of the American public being against the Wars. 

It was not only that he said it, but that he said so glibly and casually.  The arrogance and total disregard for what the public thinks in that one word was SO apparent it was appalling.  It was almost surreal. 

I share many of the sentiments expressed by so many including Mr.Scheer, but it is so maddening when you think of all the people who have protested(even today)and written letters and articles etc…

and yet we still have a congress, while some times expressing frustration and threating to take action has still not yet done anything meaningful to stop this.  what the hell are we supposed to do?  That is why there is no draft, because they know.  However is sad because looking at history, that seems the only thing that has been learned…

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By republicanSScareme, March 19, 2008 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment
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Yes, Dubyas’s resemblance to Alfred E. Neuman is uncanny. Only George makes Al look like a mental giant.

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By joe magner, March 19, 2008 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment
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OIC - Nancy did a political calculation and decided the intergrety of the constitution need not be defended…....besides the uncheck excess of the signing statements will be nice to have to support her brand of Corporate Cronies.

Good thinking Nancy!

You have learned your lessons in governing well from the Bushies!

Whats amazing is how the lives of thousands of individuals in this world just dont mean a crap to Nancy or Bush, they are both able to lay the blame on someone else and go one with their game playing.

I used to be a Democrat but now I understand what Nader was talking about and what Kucinich is about.

Damn both the Democracts and Republicans!

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By Anon, March 19, 2008 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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It’s interesting that people interpret his grin as “What, me worry.”  I look at his eyes:  he seems terribly afraid and unsure of himself.  And stupid of course.  When he walks, he looks like he’s afraid someone is going to kick his ass.  I almost feel sorry for him.

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By sophrosyne, March 19, 2008 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment
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Bush sold out to Isreali interests long ago.  Obama is now being punished for not crawling in front of Israel as Hillary and McPain have.  Follow the money and media!

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By Purple Girl, March 19, 2008 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment

Just like Ronny, W has no idea what is really going on. He’s pleased to hear what ever Dick and ASSociates tell him.
ronny should signs of Alzheimers Long before it was finallly revealed- He was still in office, in his first term! And Dick was there hiding behind HW (‘The New World Order’ slip).
W. is a Patsy, a ‘Mark’ easily manipulated and gullible. Not that he should have any legal recourse for his stupidity-It’s due to lazines and self indulgence- still eligible to stand Trial.
Let’s focus on the ‘Brain’ to this “Pinky”- Dick…When asked what he thought that 2/3 of the Citizens of this country want US out of Iraq, He answers “SO”????? I beleive that man just stated he Does NOT Work for US!!! I consider that a Confession- a One word Confession, He does Not think he must answer to US, because what This Is No Longer A Democracy??? He is No Longer a Public Servant?
How much Media Coverage, Cycles will that High Treason Get- only Olbermann? ‘So’ two little letters= One Huge Indictment..“SO”

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By Tex, March 19, 2008 at 6:20 pm Link to this comment
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Thank you, sir, for giving the rest of the world a good idea of what kind of “leader” we have.

Ron Reagan said years ago that bu$h was just an obnoxiuos drunk. I’d like to take it a bit further. bu$h never really had to work at anything because his sperm donor would rescue him. bu$h got into Yale, not based on intelligence and achievement, but based on the fact his sperm donor was an alumni. he got a an assignment into a Texas Air National Guard unit during the Vietnam War. (I SERVED BECAUSE I DIDN’T HAVE CONNECTIONS TO GET INTO THE GUARD.) Then, he fails to show up after a period do time. Why? Either he couldn’t pass the piss test or he had a problem with flying.  I think he was dabbling too much into drugs. Remember, James Baker III has stated bu$h had plenty of “lost” weekends in Mexico.

I view him as one sick puppy. I hope the rest of the world finds out soon. he deserves to be tried in the World Court for crimes against humanity.

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By Frank Cajon, March 19, 2008 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment

I recently retired after an over 30-year career working with the mentally ill. That smug, disinvolved look on his face and tone in his voice is ‘inappropriate affect’. The unseen enemies are ‘paranoia’. The jumbling of words are ‘neologisms’ and sometimes, ‘word salad’. The repetition of the same expression regardless of its’ appropriateness to the real world situation is ‘preseveration’. The voice of God he hears is an ‘auditory hallucination’. The disorder is often seen in people with a history of abuse of drugs and alcohol, even in the remote past, especially cocaine and amphetamines. The lack of the ability to determine right from wrong, the tendency to proceed regardless of the consequences are symptoms of ‘anti-social personality traits’ as is his compulsive telling of lies regardless of the fact that the listener knows that he is misrepresenting the facts. His conducting himself as if everything is fine and he is well is a combination of ‘illogical association of ideas’ and ‘poor insight into the nature of his condition’. The suspiciousness, the fear of enemies that require secret wire taps and spying is consistent with some symptoms of what in lay terms is called a ‘Schizo-Affective Personality Disorder.’ He is not going to improve the way someone with a simple thought disorder (like Schizophrenia) might, because his patterns of behavior are deeply seated in his personality. This disorder is like an eating disorder one of the most difficult to treat, even with medication and therapy, often because they are subtle and difficult to diagnose. The problem with him is that he will continue to fall further into the spiral of this illness even after his term ends. He will withdraw from the public eye, and even his closest friends will become enemies. He will become in many ways like Richard M Nixon, whose similar disorder was not as severe but was complicated by chronic alcoholism.

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By bobnbama, March 19, 2008 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment

you’re right

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By bobnbama, March 19, 2008 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment

HE IS A PETTY OIL THIEF WHO INVADED A SOVEREIGN STATE TO PRIVATIZE IRAQ’S OIL AND MAKE TRILLIONS FOR HIS BUDS. THEY PLANNED IT AT THE SECRET ENERGY TASK FORCE HEARINGS AND NOW IRAQI’S HAVE SAID THEY WILL NEVER SIGN 70 PERCENT OF THEIR OIL REVENUE AND CONTROL OF ALL OIL CONTRACTS TO BIG OIL AND OUR ACCOMPLICE BP. SO NOW WHAT. AS A VIETNAM WAR VETERAN I SUGGEST TO YOU WE CANNOT SURRENDER A COUNTRY AND ITS OIL BACK TO THOSE WHO OWN IT AND WE CANNOT CHEMICALLY BOMB A DEFENSELES OIL RESERVE FOR THEIR BETTERMENT BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN, NATIONALITY OR INNATE GREED. PEACE!!

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By Tex, March 19, 2008 at 5:23 pm Link to this comment

That’s all he is. If you have noticed the wear and tear on the idiot bu$h’s face. he’s back to boozing it up. I hardly listen to what he has to say. I noticed the other day, he was slurring his words. he’s an ex-drunk, back on the drink. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer a..hole.

A good indication of how incompetent this idiot bu$h was the pitiful piece of paper he tried to pass off as his military “record of service”.  I was in the Army over 7 years and generated more paperwork just to cover my ration cards in SE Asia for 6 years.

AS time went on, we got a better picture of just how incompetent this conservanazi idiot was. An Australian friend of mine commented during Hurricane Katrina that America is a sick place because “your president has abandoned the people of New Orleans”. Now, if people overseas can see it, why can’t we?

The US has lost all credibility in the world because of bu$h/cheney.

Pelosi and Ried should have had public hearings on the impeachment of bu$h/cheney. Those hearings would
have enlightened the people of the US just how sorry bu$h/cheney are. IT would remind people that the conservanazis are a fascist bunch, bent on achieving power and screwing everyone who doesn’t agree with them.

So, look at the US today. We are not a nation that goes by the rule of law. Law only applies to poor people. AS an American, we can be picked up off the street, imprisoned and never see the light of day. We can be carted off to some illegal prison in a foreign country, whose name we can’t pronounce. We can be spied upon by the bu$hnazis just because we are outspoken against thier lies and acts of treason.

Yep, bu$h has a legacy. A sorry one at that. If the US doesn’t wake up from this nightmare soon, it will only get worse.

Don’t expect relief from More of the Same McCain, Hanoi’s Manchurian candidate.

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By msgmi, March 19, 2008 at 5:09 pm Link to this comment
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30 percent of America thinks GW has done a great job. Indeed, this segment of americana either are diehard neoCONS or sycophants who’ll follow a president like GW anywhere, any place, at any time in order to spread ‘democracy’ world wide as long as king-oil is in that region. Leave it to a failed businessman like GW to revive his legacy at the price of sacrificing our troops in a volatile secterian Iraq.

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By Blueboy1938, March 19, 2008 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment

Speaker Pelosi understands that impeachment, whether of Bush, Cheney (as already introduced by Rep. Kucinich) or both, will not be sustained by the Senate.  There aren’t enough votes to convict.  So, naturally, she doesn’t want her legislature sidetracked by a futile exercise.  Besides, Bush and his cohorts only have 406 days to go.

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By dasm, March 19, 2008 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment
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“Legacy of failure”??  I think “Legacy of criminality” is more appropriate.  Failure implies trying to do something- usually worthwhile- and not succeeding in reaching goals.  This guy changes goals to suit the disasters he creates, can’t even explain what his goals are anyway, and succeeds only at destroying the Constitution and people’s rights.  He’s not a failure- he is an abomination.

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