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A ‘Challenge’ Worth Challenging

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Posted on Feb 18, 2008

By E.J. Dionne

WASHINGTON—The boilerplate in a candidate’s speeches gets little attention because words used over and over never constitute “news.”

But one of John McCain’s favorite lines—his declaration that “the transcendent challenge of the 21st century is radical Islamic extremists,” or, as he sometimes says it, “extremism”—could define the 2008 election.

Whether McCain is right or wrong matters to everything the United States will do in the coming years. It’s incumbent upon McCain to explain what he really means by “transcendent challenge.”

Presumably, he’s saying that Islamic extremism is more important than everything else—the rise of China and India as global powers, growing resistance to American influence in Europe, the weakening of America’s global economic position, the disorder and poverty in large parts of Africa, the alienation of significant parts of Latin America from the United States. Is it in our national interest for all these issues to take a backseat to terrorism?

McCain makes his claim even stronger when he uses the phrase “21st Century.” Does he mean that in the year 2100, Americans will look back and say that everything else that happened in the century paled by comparison with the war against terror?

But such a debate won’t happen unless Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton challenge McCain’s assertion directly and offer an alternative vision. There is reason to suspect they might be fearful of doing so. They shouldn’t be.

No doubt the Democrats will say that McCain’s openly and frequently confessed lack of interest in economic policy is exactly what the country does not need. For many Americans, the transcendent challenge of 2008 is righting a jittery economy and rolling back extreme inequality. That could well move into a debate about the impact of China on our economy and the structure of global commerce.

But for Democrats, that’s the easy part. I worry that every political consultant worth a six-figure payment will tell the Democratic nominee that fighting the election on broad foreign policy questions (as opposed to a limited dialogue built around a simple “Bush Bad, Iraq War Dumb, McCain Backs Both” theme) would be to play to McCain’s strengths.

There’s nothing wrong with criticizing Bush or the war. But if McCain’s “transcendent challenge” claim falls apart on close examination, the best rationale he has for his election would disappear.

Moreover, whether they like it or not, Democrats will have to explain how they would defend U.S. interests in the world. A majority of Americans are now prepared to hear (in a way they weren’t in, say, 2003) an argument that allowing terrorists and terrorism to define American foreign policy is neither in our interest nor particularly useful in fighting terrorism itself.

Of course, defeating terrorism is important, and no candidate will say otherwise. But the United States has a lot of work to do in the world. If we’re thinking about the next two decades, not to mention the next 90 years, it’s a mistake to see terrorism as a “transcendent challenge” that makes all our other interests secondary.

For conservatives, there is something peculiar about turning Islamic extremism into a mighty ideological force with the power to overrun the world. It’s odd that so many take seriously Osama bin Laden’s lunatic claims that he will build a new Caliphate. (And, by the way, exactly what did the Iraq war contribute to the fight against terrorism?)

In his new book on neoconservatism, “They Knew They Were Right,” Jacob Heilbrunn quotes Owen Harries, an early neoconservative whose realist bent has made him skeptical of the latest turn in the thinking of his erstwhile comrades. Harries argues that viewing terrorism as an ideological challenge akin to Nazism or Soviet communism is neither accurate nor prudent.

“I think it’s to belittle the historical experiences of World War II,” Harries says, “not to speak of the Cold War, to equate the terrorists of today and the damage they’re capable of with the totalitarian regimes of the previous century.” Underestimating our enemies is a mistake, but so too is endowing them with more power than they have.

In this week’s New Yorker, Ryan Lizza argues that McCain has gone from being a Teddy Roosevelt Republican in 2000 to a Dwight Eisenhower Republican in 2008. Eisenhower’s prudent leadership certainly looks attractive as an alternative to recklessness. But the thinking underlying McCain’s approach to the world looks far more like George W. Bush’s than Ike’s. Democrats won’t lay a glove on McCain’s foreign policy unless they’re willing to take what he says seriously and challenge him on where his ideas would lead us. 

E.J. Dionne’s e-mail address is postchat(at)aol.com.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

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By Glen, February 20 at 6:19 pm #
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I watched John McCain as he was interviewed on GMA earlier this week. He goes on to tell of his great experience as a senator and a person who has faced many perils. But as I listened I noticed that he views everything facing America as a THREAT. Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, etc… I think the democrat who finally opposes McCain must let the American people know that these are challenges, not THREATS, and that a new approach to resolving them will be through diplomacy. Also pledging to undue all of Bush’s signing statements would be nice too.

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By G.Anderson, February 20 at 7:51 am #
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The Right has a lot at stake..

Elizabeth Warren has called the non wealthy in America the “underclass”.

Well, the economic catastrophe we are in because of the Right wing, looms larger every day.

For the 1%’ers who rule this country times have never been better. They like things this way.  And they will do, say, what ever it takes to keep control over the apparatus of government.

Of course they want a fool to run, just like the last one. 

For them, the Terror War is the perfect stategy, to get working American’s to betray their own economic self interests.

It’s just psy “ops”. Designed primarly to suppress political opposition.

So when McCain talks about gettting America on track, I wonder how many Americans, think to themselves like I do. You’re party has hollowed out this country, and de- railed the economic futures of millions.

America has been living on a cliff, but now we’re falling, and we’re not very far from the bottom.

Is anyone listening to what you say, Mr. McCain?

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By cognitorex, February 20 at 7:03 am #
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I read recently an educational treatise that made the point that there is nothing in existence that can rightly be called Islamic terrorism or the like.
Muslims, adherents of Islam, may collect in movements to promote terrorism but Islam exists as a religion and is not capable on its face tenants of specifically advocating armed movements or techniques against other specific bodies.
Nothing exists that can rightly be called Islamo Facism or Islamic Terrorism. Once you get your noodle around this point the vacuousness of the “be afraid” Republicans’ various clamorings about (in this case) non-existent foreign movements is quite frightening in its stupidity and blatant use as “I-want-power” political sloganeering.

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By hollywood, February 19 at 8:37 pm #
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Transcendent my ass

McCain reminds me of Shelly Duvall’s character’s “transplendent” comment in one of Woody Allen’s films.  He’s full of hokum.  Get the hook and pull him offstage now.
The thing is I could appreciate McCain if I thought this was all a pose and behind it was this sharp guy who was gonna be a whole other person once he took office.  Not gonna happen.  Scrape away the pose and there’s more pose underneath.

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By Maani, February 19 at 12:21 pm #
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Re Non Credo and jdogg’s comments, “transcendant challenge” is a classic Orwellian phrase (not a Wolfowitzian one, unless Wolfowitz tends toward the Orwellian - which, of course, he does).  [N.B.  Everyone here owes it to themselves to take ten minutes and read Orwell’s short essay, “Politics and the English Language,” which can be found in easily readable form online.]

Re Cyrena’s comments, I not only agree (oh no1 Not again!  LOL), but would go further.  While the “war on terror” is an equally Orwellian phrase (and a misnomer), the phrase that bugs me even more - and has actually been a more “successful” propaganda phrase - is “post-9/11 world.” Although many things have been done in the name of the “war on terror,” even MORE things have been done and attached to “the post-9/11 world” - which is as phony a phrase as has ever been conjured up for propaganda purposes.

There IS NO “post-9/11 world” - except the one cynically created by the Bushies and their global pals.  How many people have given any real thought to the questionable applicability of this phrase?  What does it mean?

After all, there were major terrorist acts all over the world prior to 9/11, including many that killed hundreds (if not exactly thousands) of people.  And there have been terrorist acts both domestic (FALN, Oklahoma City) and foreign (Pearl Harbor, WTC the first time) on American soil.

So what, exactly, makes 9/11 so “unique” that the timeline of history itself is divided by it: pre-9/11 and post-9/11?  Indeed, in an ironic (and arguably scary) way, it becomes the first event since the birth of Christ that has divided historic time in this way.

In any event, I doubt the next president (be it Hillary OR Obama) is going to be so honest as to TRULY expose the phoniness of the “post-9/11 world” and the “war on terror” (which, in many ways, was a self-fulfilling prophecy of the phrase that preceded it).

Peace.  (ever more distant...)

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By jdogg333, February 19 at 5:36 pm #
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Hi Maani,

Actually my post was in regards to the phrase “defending US interests in the world.” That is the language of the PNAC crowd. Hence my reference to Wolfowitz, although I could probably referenced any number of Neo-Cons. “Transcendant Challenge” is most certainly Orwellian. Thanks for pointing out that essay, I’ll be sure to read it ASAP. Good to see you and Cyrena agreeing on something. grin

Peace.

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By Maani, February 19 at 7:39 pm #
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jdogg:

Sorry about the mix-up.  Yeah, the PNAC crowd - the people who gave us “a new Pearl Harbor” on 9/11.  They truly give me the willies…

Peace.

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By whyxowl, February 19 at 11:18 am #
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Armed Madhouse

Allen Ginsberg once said, “Man should not die ungodly in an armed madhouse,” but that’s exactly what man, Homo Americanus in particular, is doing. Gee, it only took seven years for a mainstream liberal commentator like E. J. Dionne to gingerly suggest that Bush’s all-encompassing War on Terror is, and always has been, just as phony as phony can be. I’m impressed. At this rate, we may begin withdrawing American soldiers from Iraq by as soon as 2050, or right after we’ve finished draining that star-crossed country of every last drop of its oil—whichever comes first.

The greed, ignorance, irresponsibility and outright stupidity of the American ruling class is destroying this country, and there’s absolutely no reason to hope that they won’t take the whole planet down with them. Stupid is, as stupid does.

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By P. T., February 19 at 10:52 am #
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"Radical Islamic Extremists": Imperialist Codewords

What concerns John McCain is the same thing that has always concerned him:  any challenge to U.S. imperialism.  The particular ideology of the antagonist is beside the point.  The irony is that the U.S. favored Islamism in the past because it was seen as an antagonist to anti-imperialist nationalists and leftists in the Mideast.

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By lodipete, February 19 at 10:44 am #
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Oh Noooo!

I see where another of McCain’s “advisors” is Phil Gramm on the economy. Do these guys ever just disappear? I don’t care who the dems nominate for “08”. He/She?It has my vote. Just don’t forget to put dems into the House & Senate as well with big,fat majorities. Maybe then we can put Pelosi & Reid into the backbench area where they belong.
On a lighter note, can Bush,Cheyney and the neocons be touched after they’re thrown out of office? Somebody owes big time for the lies,squandered lives and fraud committed by this crowd. I wonder what kind of AG John Edwards would be.

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By cyrena, February 20 at 9:51 pm #
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Re: Oh Noooo!

Lodipete,

I was hoping to respond to this sooner, if only because I’ve been considering it myself, for at least 5 years, maybe longer.

• On a lighter note, can Bush,Cheyney and the neocons be touched after they’re thrown out of office? Somebody owes big time for the lies,squandered lives and fraud committed by this crowd. I wonder what kind of AG John Edwards would be.

Can they be touched after they’re thrown out? Well, it’s becoming more and more difficult, but the Congress has first allowed them to perpetrate all of these crimes, and for the past few years, Cheney’s lawyers have been busy re-writing the laws to legalize their crimes. This of course, in preparation for when they DO get thrown out.  I mean really, how many times can the prohibitions against torture be re-written to retroactively save their evil asses, after they’ve already done it?

I don’t know what kind of AG John Edwards would be. I would like to think that he would put them all behind bars for the rest of their days on the planet. I know a whole bunch of folks who would gladly assist him in the efforts. And, that’s just for the domestic crimes. I think there needs to be an International tribunal set up for the other crimes, on the order of Nuremburg. Of course that’s just a dream, since I don’t see anybody here initiating such a thing, and it’s unlikely that the UN would do it on it’s steam. (which is what should have happened, at least in theory, already).

So I don’t know if Edward’s would initiate anything as an AG. I DO know that another Clinton administration has no intentions of anything like that. She’s already tapped hubby and bush I to do a peacekeeping mission as soon as she takes office. Or, at least that’s what she said a couple of months ago.  So, doesn’t sound like she’s planning to prosecute anybody from the current in-house chapter of the Dynasty.

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By Louise, February 21 at 10:30 am #
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Re: Re: Oh Noooo!

I believe the Military Commissions Act of 2006 pretty well immunizes Bush, Cheney and their goons from prosecution. I also believe Obama is the only candidate who has said he will call for doing away with that reprehensible bit of legislation. One more very important reason we need to make sure dems control both houses with an overwhelming majority, and a lot of new blood!

As I recall, when asked specifically about that legislation, Hillary never gave an answer. [I could be wrong, and she may have made a statement on it since, in which case I would like to know.]

Lets face it, the notion of settling into this horrendous “First” branch of government the repubs have created could be corrupting. Which is why we need to demand positions on those issues NOW, from ALL the candidates, including McCain. Get it on the record and hold them to it! We cant expect the hard-core republicans to ask these questions. Most of them don’t even understand the implications.

But there are those republicans who do and have already registered democrat in primary after primary so they could vote for Hillary or Obama. I think primarily Obama, because they do understand the implications!

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By S Calhoun, February 19 at 8:14 am #
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McCain hasn’t spelled out how the transcendent threat is to be defeated, errr, transcendently. He will not because he cannot.

In fact, he’s approached the problem cynically in implying that as long as the US can sustain its pressure on the enemy without risking eye-opening casualties, the strategy can be said to “work.”

So, his sense is: tax cuts and less-than-total war, foreign countries putting our ‘war-footing’ on the credit cards they’ve issued us. By all means: keep the flag draped coffins and limbless heroes out of view and off the front pages.

It’s hard to imagine a more cynical perspective than that of McCain.

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By KISS, February 19 at 6:56 am #
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Another Empty Suit

McCain is looking for the home run after a dismal failure of being a Senator from Arizona. He is tired of the go-along-get-along little repug from Arizona. His fits of temper show how unqualified he is for the highest office in the land. His being a Viet war hero is questionable. He wears it on his sleeve, as most prisoners of war avoided public disclosure. His veiled attempt to support John Kerry’s record was thin, when his brethren repugs lied and Swift Boated Kerry. McCain is another Fascist and will work to defeat the Bill of Rights as his predecessor. Unlike Ike, McCain embraces the Military Industrial Complex.
The dimmos offer little, but McCain is worse.

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By jdogg333, February 19 at 6:37 am #
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Great Article

One question though. Which interests in the world are we defending again? I’m not being snarky here but whenever I hear the phrase “defending US interests in the world” I tend to cringe. That phrase has been thrown around as a way that sound suspiciously Wolfowitzian.

Otherwise outstanding article.

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By jdogg333, February 19 at 6:46 am #
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Re: Great Article

Haha need to read my posts before hitting submit.

“That phrase has been thrown around <IN> a way that sound<S> suspiciously Wolfowitzian.

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By jhm, February 19 at 5:14 am #
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Transcendent.

I too was troubled not only by the use of ‘transcendent,’ but the thought that ‘extremism’ of the kind with which we are supposedly at war is the greatest challenge of the next nine decades (try to imagine what someone living in 1907 [or 1807...] would have considered the most pressing challenge of the upcoming hundred years).

I’m troubled not only for the points mentioned in this post (with which I am in broad agreement) underscoring Hon. Sen. McCain’s frightening and simple-minded bellicosity, but the unwitting truths inherent in his rhetoric.  If there is a transcendent challenge—on a scale including a hundred, or hundreds of years—concerning the struggle against ‘extremism’ it is surely the battle of rationality against religiosity.

For certain, Sen. McCain would not identify religiosity itself as the kernel of the struggle we fight, but I would not only claim that it is, but that we might more effectively fight it abroad, if we also confront anti-rational forces at home.

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By Non Credo, February 19 at 4:28 am #
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“Transcendant” implies that the thing is not just “more important than everything else”. It places this “challenge” not just at the head of our priorities, but beyond all other considerations.

It’s like a rational rupture, a hole in space-time.

It means that he grants himself permission to pursue his militarism with a single-minded obsession that ignores everything else — which is very convenient, since he obviously has no ideas about or interest in anything else, because he’s crazy.

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By cyrena, February 19 at 2:25 am #
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WOW, E.J. has outdone himself with this superb piece. Of course I may be partial to the NECESSITY of breaking this outrageous and all consuming thing with ‘fighting terrorist extremists’.

So yeah, any contender needs to put this out there with McCain, which would expose it for what it is, and put it in proper perspective. Maybe then, they could offer an alternative that actually COULD be used to combat the ‘real’ vulnerabilities that we have in regard to terrorism, rather than the created thing that McCain has based his entire platform on. Odd, this is exactly the same thing that Rudy Giuliani was using, and we SEE what happened to him. It didn’t wash. People aren’t scared anymore; At least not of Islamic terrorists.

And, here it is…this Harris guy hits in on the bullseye. (I do like to hear from realists, we have so much in common.)

• Harries argues that viewing terrorism as an ideological challenge akin to Nazism or Soviet communism is neither accurate nor prudent.

That’s because it is NOT akin to Nazis or Soviet communism. In fact, because it has been CREATED, I think it’s just a tool to use in the same way, or at least achieve the same ends, (totalitarian regime conditions) as Nazism and Soviet Communism were utilized. It’s a bogus ideological challenge that actually CREATES terror, where there is no defined enemy. That is the ideology of a totalitarian movement.

Thing is, I don’t know if McCain has figured that out. I don’t know if he’s legitimately worried about Islamic terrorists taking over the world, or if he’s just an old demented fart that is experiencing the effects of Alzheimer’s or something. Maybe the tricks by Dick Bush and the Rove machine, have managed to trick him too. I mean, McCain even believes that this NAFTA “Superhighway” is real. At least he says he does.

If not, then he’s in on it. (Like I suspect Giuliani is). Either way, somebody needs to expose this ‘terror threat’ for what it is. So, maybe Obama needs to read this article.

And yeah, he’s gonna have to talk about the thing with India and China as well. China particularly IS a looming global power, ready to take it’s centuries old position as exactly that, leaving the 300 years of the US being the top dog as just a blip on history’s radar.

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By Aegrus, February 19 at 11:13 am #
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Cyrena, Alzheimers is definitely at work in McCain’s campaign as he has flipped on every issue we thought he stood for pre-2007. I’m pretty sure John forgot who he was and Karl Rove took out his brain shampoo and reminded him of all the great positions he believes in with strong conviction.

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By weather, February 19 at 2:09 am #
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Before Israel, Islam was of little concern to

If the souls who died at the trade center could speak, they’d scream arrest Silverstein.

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