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By Robert Scheer

Curb your enthusiasm. Even if your favored candidate did well on Super Tuesday, ask yourself if he or she will seriously challenge the bloated military budget that President Bush has proposed for 2009. If not, military spending will rise to a level exceeding any other year since the end of World War II, and there will be precious little left over to improve education and medical research, fight poverty, protect the environment or do anything else a decent person might care about. You cannot spend well over $700 billion on “national security,” running what the White House predicts will be more than $400 billion in annual deficits for the next two years, and yet find the money to improve the quality of life on the home front.

The conventional wisdom espoused by the mass media is that Bush’s budget is a lame-duck DOA contrivance, but that assumption is wrong. The 9/11 attacks have been shamefully exploited by the military-industrial complex with bipartisan support to ramp up military expenditures beyond Cold War levels. This irrational spending spree, which accounts for more than half of all federal discretionary spending, is not likely to end with Bush’s departure. Which one of the likely winners from either party would lead the battle to cut the military budget, and where would the winner find support in Congress? Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have treated the military budget as sacrosanct with their Senate votes and their campaign rhetoric. Clinton is particularly clear on the record as favoring spending more, not less, on the military. 

John McCain, who previously distinguished himself as a deficit hawk and was almost in a class by himself in taking on the rapacious defense contractors, has thrown in the towel with his inane support for staying in Iraq till “victory,” even if it should take a century. It is simply illogical to call for fiscal restraint while committing to an open-ended war in Iraq that has already cost upward of $700 billion. Bush’s request for $515.4 billion for the Defense Department doesn’t even include the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which accounted for nearly $200 billion over the last budget year and which will cost at least $140 billion in 2009. Add to those numbers $17.1 billion for the Department of Energy’s weapons program and over $40 billion for the Department of Homeland Security and other national security initiatives spread throughout the federal government, and you’ll see that my $700-billion figure underestimates the hemorrhaging.

McCain knows, and has frequently stated as a Senate watchdog, that much of the military spending is wastefully superfluous for combating terrorists who lack any but the most rudimentary weapons. Bush totally betrayed his campaign 2000 promise to reshape the post-Cold War U.S. military when he seized upon the 9/11 attack as an opportunity to reverse the “peace dividend” that his father had begun to return to taxpayers. Instead, Bush II ushered in the most profligate underwriting of weapons systems that are grotesquely irrelevant for combating terrorism.

The U.S. already spends more than the rest of the world combined on its military, without a sophisticated enemy in sight. The Bush budget cuts not a single weapons system, including the most expensive ones, those designed to combat a Soviet military that no longer exists. Those sophisticated weapons have nothing to do with combating terrorism and everything to do with jobs and profits that motivate both Democrats and Republicans in Congress. It is not known whether Osama bin Laden even possesses a rowboat in his naval arsenal, but that won’t stop Joe Lieberman from pushing, as is his habit, for an increase in the defense budget to double the funding for the $3.4-billion submarines built in his home state of Connecticut. Nor does the collapse of the old Soviet Union—and with it the need for enormously expensive stealth aircraft to evade radar systems the Soviets never built—dissuade congressional supporters of those planes from pushing for more, not less, than Bush is requesting. Nor does wasting an additional $8.9 billion on ICBM missile defense have anything to do with stopping terrorists from smuggling a suitcase nuke into this country.

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By george in Toronto, August 3, 2008 at 4:45 am Link to this comment
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First—911 attacks where government
Second—Anthrax attacks where government
third—since Bush took over—-America is a mess
Just shows how dumb Americans are—they voted for Bush twice and thought Pelosi was a good cop and what have we since 2006—bigger mess and every counrty hates us.Except Israel,Americ’s obortion child. Get this,America was nuked on 911 by low radition miniture nuke bombs on 911 and too stupid to know it.
So Ju-Lias—knock-off the baloney-America has been attacked by Israel MOSSAD every day. The last killings occurred with Dr. Ivins—Anthrax.( Just like Arafat)I guess you missed it on FOX News? After 911 the FBI was supposed to investigate the MOSSAD/CIA 911 attacks.After 1 week, All FBI agents were taken off and sent to investigate anthrax killings. Clean your ears and eye glasses U-GOOFUS!

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By Shenonymous, August 3, 2008 at 3:12 am Link to this comment

OMG what a thing to wake up to.
First of all this is an old story; this came out on July 5.  It has been out for weeks.  So where has Rip van Winkle Wolfson been?  Second of all, the unranium Yellow Cake in Iraq has been known about since 1992 and is a reactor grade uranium not a nuclear bomb grade.  Idiots think the rest of the world is stupid when in reality stupidity is as plain as the nose on their own faces.  Rightwingers will grab at anything to try to vindicate their mindless leaders.  The sardonic comments about Bush is what has been correct all along,  Too bad Wolfson can’t see past the redness in his eyes.  Also it is too bad that msnbc allowed such idiots to write such a rabble-rousing but really contentless account of moving this substance that would take highly sophisticated and expensive equipment to convert it.  That is a prime example of media Irresponsibility.  Obviously the rabble rightwingers were aroused. I know, I know, it doesn’t take much.

If you have learned to read, read the msnbc article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/
and see how they dosey doe back and forth between implications and fact.  It is really stupid reporting.  You can see it clearly, if you have learned how to read.

By the way yellowcake is used in the preparation of fuel for nuclear reactors, you know, things that make clean energy.  It is processed into purified UO2 for use in fuel rods for PHWR and other systems using unenriched uranium. If a nation had the technology, yellowcake could be enriched, by being converted to uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6), by isotope separation through gaseous diffusion or in a gas centrifuge to produce enriched uranium suitable for use in weapons… and reactors.  Fact is that Hussein did not have that technology and there is no nor ever was any evidence that the Iraqis had set up a lab to make that conversion.  It would be quite an expensive operation and Hussein did not have that kind of money in his treasury.  He was as everybody knows looking to make energy to power the country, you know, like electricity.  Also by the way, yellowcake is produced in every country where uranium is mined.  What the msnbc article did not report is how long the world has known Iraq had yellowcake.  Let’s try, about, 18 years!

You know, get real.

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By Julias Wolfson, August 2, 2008 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment
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It’s always easy to sit back in our easy chairs while watching the evening news on TV and criticize the president. Think about it, there has not been an attack on our nation since 911, why? Because President Bush has the guts to make tough decisions and go after the terrorist where ever they try to hide and hit them hard, and to keep hitting them.

An unprovoked war in Iraq? Have you ever heard of yellow cake? Do you know what yellow cake is? Yellow cake is, enriched uranium, which can be converted to uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6), by isotope separation through gaseous diffusion or in a gas centrifuge to produce enriched uranium suitable for use in nuclear weapons. How often do you watch national news? Do you know that Canada just received a shipment of Yellow Cake from Iraq, Yellow Cake that was left over from the So-Damm-Insane regime? Why did So-Damm_Insane have yellow cake if he didn’t have plans to build a nuclear weapon? If this is true why didn’t President Bush tell the world about this Yellow Cake that was found in Iraq? Because President Bush is no idiot, why tell your enemies about a shipment like this? They would try to Hi-Jack this shipment and try to build their own bomb. Even Slick Willy (President Clinton) knew about So-Damm-Insane’s program to build a nuclear bomb. President Bush is my kind of President, he doesn’t take any Bull *&%@ from Terrorist, he kicks butt and takes names; this kind of president makes our nation much safer.

Thank you

Julias N. Wolfson

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By Maani, February 11, 2008 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment

Doug:

You said, “Then again, BO doesn’t really seem to care whether his “quite riot” turns nasty as long as he is in control.”

Ah!  But it is clear that he is no longer in complete control of his runaway cult of personality - and it is getting progressively uglier and harder to control.  We have seen some of that right here on LieDig, but it is also happening in the bricks and mortar world; I come up against with many of Obama’s supporters and volunteers on a daily basis.

As a related aside, this article might interest you:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1&hp;=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

Peace.

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By Shenonymous, February 11, 2008 at 4:10 pm Link to this comment

Sounds like a good Billy Joel song.

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By Jingles, February 11, 2008 at 9:27 am Link to this comment
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4x4gmhbIw
Most of us on the internet know Bush is a mad dog.Problem is that most Americans don’t get their news from the internet. Please do watch the video-it highlites Bush’s madness. Just Imagine what youtube flicks would show McCain as President in 2017?

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 11, 2008 at 9:15 am Link to this comment

By Paracelsus, February 10: “Two Scenarios, Both Awful - If Obama gets elcted then Zybrinski will try to revive operation Barbarossa - If HRC gets elected we will see the formation of the greater Israeli co-prosperity sphere - the Fabian Society. On principle, they never vote…”

Perhaps these people don’t actually know something we do, Paracelsus. Not voting in a decisive election to end the GWOT is like saying you are no longer interested in human evolution upon Earth. Only the deluded or the perfected souls would dare say such a thing. But actually a perfected Buddha would defer to the human necessity and its huffing and puffing through evolution while the Fabians are so totally up themselves nowadays…..

As we know, HRC is not Helena Rubenstein so she will most probably dump AIPAC - at least after the election. They are already ‘on the nose’ and the time has come for the USA to divest themselves of this malicious bedbug, uhh.

Too bad about BO, though. The days of the Polish government-in-exile (version 2) and their monarchy are OVER!!! It was the workers and a common peasant, Lech Walensa, who put an end to Communism. Lets not forget that the Catholic Church and the elitists had little or nothing to do with it.

Retroactively recognizing the legitimacy of the Polish “Government in Exile” does nothing to return the age of chivalry never mind the monarchist regimes of the past. They have already more or less gone the way of the dinosaurs and what ever was chivalry but a bunch of smelly rude horse soldiers anyway, uhh?

So we come to the end of yet another dinosaur of the cold war era. The last one remaining, in fact. It is the militarist state of the USA and all that it entails. The age of global warming and climate change is now decidedly upon us all everywhere. Not even the Neocons (pope included) can command the tide now…....

That includes Israel which can see its peoples die of thirst or freeze in the dark unless it is willing to co-operate with other peoples and nations in the region in future. All the nuclear missiles and all the nuclear aircraft carrier attack groups and nuclear submarines in the world will never change what is going to happen next!

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By Tony Wicher, February 11, 2008 at 8:16 am Link to this comment

I have been wondering why Chalmers was so antipathetic to Obama, but this leaves no doubt. He’s an old-fashioned anti-black racist. Come out of the closet, Chalmers. Be a proud Kluxer. Put on your white sheet so we can all see what you are.

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By Leefeller, February 11, 2008 at 6:41 am Link to this comment

Chompers, you have chosen the low road again and it becomes you.  Kissing the bigot stone instead of the blarney stone has taken you beyond redemption.

So long chompers

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By Gloria Picchetti, February 11, 2008 at 6:03 am Link to this comment
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The Bush Legacy is just as full as a legacy can get. where to begin? Those who came & continue to come home alive from Iraq sans limbs, eyes, and/or faces. The VA that will not or cannnot care for them. Those who came home dead. The foreclosures. The bodies floating in New Orleans. Bush standing in front of the statue giving his cocky speech about recovery for New Orleans. His refusal to almost 20 countries who wanted to help the Golf Coast recovery. The FEMA trailers sold to us, the poor taxpayers, by Bush’s buddies. The FEMA trailers full of asbestos. The trailers that were put in a hurricane region to begin with. Poor children refused good health care. All children who must forsake learning to take test after test after test. Teachers who cannot teach beccause them must spend all their time preparing children for tests. Completey porous borders and coasts that should have been sealed immediately after 9/11. The destruction of as much flora and fauna as possible. I don’t know how they got away with a marine habitat in Hawaii? Hmmm? Maybe some good lobbies? Oh let us pray for better better lobbies to stop mountain top mining. That is where the land is destroyed and the people are getting sicker and poorer everyday. The mining companies “restore” the vegetation with bamboo. Deers, skunks, rabbits, rattlesnakes, bears, robins, owls don’t like bamboo. That doesn’t matter. Bush needs the poor people to go to his illegal invasion to come home sans limbs, eyes and/or faces or dead. Hey at least, the wealthy got tax cuts! Do you think Bush hears from G-d? Or do you think he is channeling Hitler?

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 11, 2008 at 5:12 am Link to this comment

By cyrena, February 10:  “Is Obama the anti- This is proof that any asshole can put anything they want on the Internet…. I pass this philosophy on to my students and other kids from time to time, even some adults…”

Sorry to discover that you have been abusing children in your, uhh, profession in the California state education department, cyrena. Also a disappointment that they have foolishly allowed you to perpetrate your hate messages to “students” and that you most probably abuse the more naive adults who are misfortunate enough to cross your path aw well.

Such are the distortions of some African-American supporters of Barack Obama who wish to take their “I want a black president” rhetoric to the extent of a malicious racist anti-white revenge agenda of their own making.  Then again, BO doesn’t really seem to care whether his “quite riot”  turns nasty as long as he is in control. No wonder then that other minority groups have shunned this “migrant”.

Your malicious attacks on me in the past several weeks are now apparently supported by those who blog here but who actually do work for the Obama’s The Ring campaign and also run blogs on his website. That is very shoddy. Obviously morals don’t go very far in a country which will once again be torn apart by race riots very soon. Just as with Britain and Sharia law, there is a limit, you know.

A person from Kenya is hardly one who could be relied upon to do any other than run the country for the benefit of his own ethnic group just as Saddam Hussein did in Iraq. The white majority and other minority groups will suffer. The Asians and the Hispanics will be first…....

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 11, 2008 at 5:09 am Link to this comment

#By Maani + Tony Wicher, February 10:  “Obama’s complete speech, since the video really does take it way out of context. http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/ This video was obviously a product of the Republican smear machine…”

Part 1….

As for spirituality, any person who has actualy “heard God’s spirit beckoning” him or her knows that it isn’t a “he” or a “she”. It is both beyond the human and the worldly. But regardless anyone who has “submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth” would never then go on to make the kinds of misleading statements that Obama has. A “higher truth”  cannot be “summoned” , either. Back to merely “teaching the scripture to slaves” without taking the trouble to actually free them as Buddha once did.

But perhaps BO does want to be another murderous warmonger like Abe Lincoln was and to start another civil war so that he can once again fill “the crucible of the sword” with white mens’ blood? These evil deeds are not “the judgments of the Lord” . Tyoically, as a legalist and not a genuine humanist, Obama then uses the timeworn excuse that “our law is by definition a codification of morality, much of it grounded in the Judeo-Christian tradition…” , itself a historical misinterpretation of the mission and life of Jesus.

That only ever validates the bloodthirsty history of the old tetamant Zionist Jews and the Catholic church’s 1,000 year-old anti-everything-and-everyone military crusades - and the judiciary and the government (and AIPAC) by reference no matter how corrupt they are. Is that in any way “progressive” ? And strange how these first-generation migrants can then turn and say ”...during our founding…” and refer to the past 400 years as if they were always present and you are dumb enough to accept that and to believe them.

And does Obama really want to have “only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America…”. Which passages of Scripture then should guide his public policy? It certainly wouldn’t be “the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application” because he has already ridiculed Christian teaching and likened Jesus’ words to the old Jews’  “slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination” and their “stoning your child if he strays from the faith”.

.....\cont…....

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 11, 2008 at 5:08 am Link to this comment

...../part 2….

It is not democracy which “demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values”. That is the original religious teachings whcih were always universal and it is the minds of self-seeking men and women which have degraded that just as they degrade their other freedoms until democracy can no longer exist and their administratuions are so utterly corrupted and usurped. One must view carefully what Barack Obama says because he is cleverly manipulating people with the widest possible story into the most cunningly contrived trap.

BO’s statement that ”...we do not hear what Abraham hears, do not see what Abraham sees, true as those experiences may be. So the best we can do is act in accordance with those things that we all see, and that we all hear, be it common laws or basic reason…” simply means that his intention is to discredit other peoples’ intuition and inspiration just as he has discredited the words of Jesus in the Sermon on the mount. Thus it will not be that   “God has spoken” but that Barack Obama has and then followers are expected to live up to this demi-god’s edicts, regardless of the consequences.

But it is somehow OK that   “religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics” . That is starting to sound like China’s bloodthirsty first emperor from millenia past. And, of course, he “don’t want faith used to belittle or to divide” any of his pprecious statements as misleading and erroneous and deceptive as they are. Thus the typical self-righteous legalist twisting and turning to forever direct others to his own aggrandizement.

So I do hope that BO will have “felt a pang of shame” but it is obviously unlikely that he ever actually will. It is people like him who should be “looking for a deeper, fuller conversation about religion in this country” . They would thus change their positions if they were genuinely willing to listen and learn from those who are willing to speak in fair-minded words. Those who know of the central and awesome place that God holds in the lives of so many, and who “treat faith as simply another political issue with which to score points” are sadly, once again, set to mislead America.

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By cyrena, February 10, 2008 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment

Tony,

I understand your confusion in attempting to understand or otherwise rationalize the motivation behind Chalmers’ prolific bullshit.

I TOO, generally give people the benefit of the doubt, and specifically on these blogs, where we are pretty much forced to take people at face value, based solely on what they write themselves, or what they choose to share from some other source.

So, it’s only fair and reasonable to extend the benefit of the doubt, or to try to ask questions and/or clarify, -from the person themselves- what it is that they are actually saying, or what their positions actually are, and why.

BECAUSE…reasonable people CAN disagree, on interpretations of just about ANYTHING!! I mean, that’s simply the way the world and humankind operate in what is allegedly a democratic society.

However, there are in fact abnormalities that exist among the population as well, and they are often well hidden, or go unrecognized until one has actually followed the pattern for a while.

Chalmers is one of them, and again..he’s not alone. There are many posters on the board who will posit the same ideological stuff, such as Obama, (or anybody really) is ‘evil’ or ‘frightening’ or blah, blah, blah. And, they can NEVER point to WHY they believe that. It’s all very bizarre, but it is THEY who are abnormal, and have the ‘issues’, whatever they may be.

Chalmers has a BUNCH of them, and it would take a genuinely brilliant and experienced forensic psychiatrist some time to get through them all.

I am admittedly NOT qualified to do that, and I don’t believe that most of us on this forum are. I AM ‘qualified’ enough though, to know that he’s crazier than bat shit, which is why there’s little point in throwing good money after bad, (if I have that the right way around) in terms of spending any more time in responding to him, unless it serves as a warning for other posters.

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By cyrena, February 10, 2008 at 4:15 pm Link to this comment

•  You know what Chalmers is doing, TW
This is proof that any asshole can put anything they want on the Internet…and somebody will be foolish enough (and usually biased enough—like DC) to buy into it without EVER checking it’s provenance or validity, even after it’s proven to be false.


Inherit…

This absolutely says IT ALL!! And, as often as I’ve tried, I simply could never say it better, or as succinctly. 

On the positive side…while this Internet capacity does have this down side, (ANY vegetable head, tumor-ridden brain cell can post something on it) the up side is that we also have exposure to people of reason, among the same population, and THAT is a good thing.

Imagine for a moment, (because it’s actually a reality in many places on the globe) that you were locked up with the likes of a Chalmers, say even as a kid or a spouse, or an employee, etc, etc. And, you had no exposure to anything or anyone ‘normal’ or even simply any other mentality or way of thinking/seeing/interpreting the world around you? Well, YOU know the results…there is a huge likehood, that you would wind up with a mentality just as messed-up as his. This is, at least in part, how such insanity manages to recycle itself.

But, I STILL believe that these types are becoming the exception among us, as evidenced by the mostly reasonable and logical minds that prevail on these blogs, and even within the general population. I want to believe that these primary elections, and the whole process, imperfect though it may be, is evidence that people in general, are mostly operating within a generally agreed upon sense of what is best for the common good, which by nature of it, includes them. So, MORE people are able to view the ‘big picture’ as may have been possible prior to the introduction of the Internet.

Meantime, people like Chalmers, (and he’s not alone in this social-psychological pathology) can be more easily ‘spotted’ as a danger of which to be aware. It probably IS important to know that people like him ARE ‘out there’ so as to not be taken in or otherwise led astray by them. I pass this philosophy on to my students and other kids from time to time, even some adults.

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By Paracelsus, February 10, 2008 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment

If Obama gets elcted then Zybrinski will try to revive operation Barbarossa against the Russians. This will be done to revive the golden era of Poland, or more properly Poland-Lithuania during the rule of the Jagiello dynasty, originating in the 15th century. Problem is Russia has nukes. At least GW Bush was smart enough to attack countries without nukes.

If HRC gets elected we will see the formation of the greater Israeli co-prosperity sphere in the Middle-East. Also bad. But at least we won’t as likely get nuked.

Also I would like to make known a lovely tradition of the Fabian Society. On principle, they never vote. Perhaps they know something we don’t.

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By Paracelsus, February 10, 2008 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment

You mean Israel will start asking for money from the US in Euros? I’ll laugh my ass off if that happens. Talk about chutzpah.

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By Inherit The Wind, February 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

Reality:
It’s going to be either Obama or Clinton against McCain.  I have no problem voting for either of them over McCain. 

I know the consultants never think about what happens to the nation if their candidate loses, but we Americans must.  They wanted Romney because they thought he was easier to beat, as would be Huckabee.  But as bad as McCain might be, I have no doubt that Romney or Huck would be 10x worse.

Actually, if you LOOK at their policies, Obama is far more conservative than Clinton—even in their health care plans.  Obama is probably the better candidate—he appeals to the “I’m not right wing but I don’t like the Clintons type”, has great intelligence and charisma, and is, of course carrying the “first to..” banner.  Clinton is clearly far more experience, knowing who to appoint, knowing how things work, etc.  She’s also always been left of Bill.  Her BIG advantage is she has no more skeletons in her closet.  Her big disadvantage is many people have a visceral hatred of her and she’s a motivator—of opponents.

You know my opinion of Kucinich…now he has to struggle to ensure his seat stays Democratic!

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By Leefeller, February 10, 2008 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment

Inherit the wind,

Your fist sentence is half correct, you know which half I choose.

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By Tony Wicher, February 10, 2008 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment

It sounds like it. He’s “evil”, “anti-Christian”, his middle name is Hussein, he’s young, charismatic. The Devil must be helping him. It fits. I’m sure Pat Robertson would agree.

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By Tony Wicher, February 10, 2008 at 11:46 am Link to this comment

Oops, I accidentally hit the submit button on my previous comment before I was finished with it. To finish my thought:

The reasons Chalmers gives don’t make any sense:  that Obama is “evil” because in the strong anti-Iraq war speech that he gave in October 2002 he said he “did not oppose all wars” - just stupid ones. It is even more absurd, if possible, when he calls Obama “anti-Christian” because he said in one speech that if we took the Sermon on the Mount literally, we would not even have an army or a defense department. How is this anti-Christian, for Christ’s sake? Mike Huckabee is the “Christian” candidate and he wants a big increase in the size of the military budget to pump up the Zionist-Crusader alliance against the Muslims. Now there’s a real Christian for you.

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By Tony Wicher, February 10, 2008 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

Re By Inherit The Wind, February 10 at 5:21 am #

You know what Chalmers is doing, TW
This is proof that any asshole can put anything they want on the Internet…and somebody will be foolish enough (and usually biased enough—like DC) to buy into it without EVER checking it’s provenance or validity, even after it’s proven to be false.
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ITW,

Sure, any teenager or vegetable-brained dittohead can make a U-Tube video, cutting out some clips and stringing them together in whatever way they want. Did you see this other one where a guy claiming to be a limo driver says he snorted coke in a limo with Obama while Obama smoked crack and then gave him a blow job? The guy is wearing a big cap that shades his eyes and can’t spell. It was a one-day wonder on some web sites.  Looks like it was made by the same lowbrow production company. Or maybe Eric Cartman.

I don’t understand Chalmer’s motivation. For quite a while I thought we were on more or less the same wavelength, Kucinich progressives in agreement on most issues. but as soon as I said I supported Obama as the best candidate with a real chance to win, it became clear that he had vehement objections to Obama. At first I thought, well, he’s just one of those diehard Kucinich people who talk about “Republicrats” and there being no difference between one “establishment” candidate and another. I have been trying to convince these good people that they are dooming themselves to perpetual political frustration this way and they will have a “place at the table” if they support Obama, because I believe this represents our best hope as progressives.

At this point Chalmers seems to be supporting Clinton against Obama, since it is no longer possible to support Kucinich, who is struggling to keep his congressional seat at this point. I say Obama looks more progressive, is supported largely by small donations from the Net, and does not have the longstanding ties to big corporations that Clinton has, which progressives like I thought Chalmers was have been railing against for years. Clinton represents the establishment of the Democratic Party, the DLC, the party machinery. Obama is anti-establishment. He is an insurgent. He represents what Howard Dean calls “the Democratic wing of the Democratic party”.

If Chalmers does not accept these arguments and prefers Clinton, that’s fine with me. But the reasons he gives, that Obama is “evil” because he

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By jingles, February 10, 2008 at 9:06 am Link to this comment
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Recall why both nerds Ford and Carter got in?—they were chosen to silence the public uprising. It worked. Hillary is a crook and a liar. Sad thing, there is a web site called C&L;and really is a shill for the Demorats. Hillary supports it.There is no difference between Bush, McCain or Hillary—all corrupt.Israel firsters-hell with America.
Now, Obama is the new chosen nerd to pacify the restless herds in America and the Moslums in the world.-He is the new Washington house butler,replaces Codi Rice. He already has a plan—Colin Powell as VP.
All garbage!

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By Leefeller, February 10, 2008 at 8:04 am Link to this comment

What is with this false god and path to hell stuff?  If you believe in hell, lying bush has already taken us there. 

Really when I think about it, I prefer Obama, just because he offers a new approach, the change will be simply that he has not been in the smoke filled rooms like Hillary, her experience can be tainted like Chaney who has more experience than anyone,  Experience can mean an inside chance to corruption. Obama offers a fresh mind.  Hope and change are absent from Hillary. 

First of all I would be happy if a woman became president, but if I do not agree with her politics and do not support her then one becomes a sexist.  Vote the issues.  Must admit, I am reluctant to have another 4 or 8 years of Clintons in the Whitehouse.
Bush has shoved things though to support his good old boy agenda, Congress has not done there job of oversight, I blame Pelosi and Reed for the problem.  The war vote in the last election turned out to be a horse and pony show. 

Giving our jobs away like Bill Clinton did when he was president, is not grounds to vote for his wife?

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By Inherit The Wind, February 10, 2008 at 6:21 am Link to this comment

This is proof that any asshole can put anything they want on the Internet…and somebody will be foolish enough (and usually biased enough—like DC) to buy into it without EVER checking it’s provenance or validity, even after it’s proven to be false.

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By Maani, February 10, 2008 at 1:47 am Link to this comment

Doug:

You need to read Obama’s complete speech, since the video really does take it way out of context.  Here is a link to the speech:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

Peace.

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By Tony Wicher, February 10, 2008 at 1:33 am Link to this comment

I can’t believe you keep putting this link up there. This video was obviously a product of the Republican smear machine, and it is made to appeal to persons of the lowest degree of education and political awareness. I listened to the whole speech when Obama gave it, and this video is a laughably egregious misinterpretation of its meaning. Only the most gullible, ignorant person could give it any credibility. I’m tired of saying this.

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 10, 2008 at 1:05 am Link to this comment

By Tony Wicher, February 7: “This “last days” crap is sheer religious hysteria. The Book of Revelations is the hallucination of a hashhead. It is interesting that there are so many religious hysterics. It does show that people despair of solving their problems and are hoping for an end to it all. If they don’t start using their brains instead of spreading around this 2000-year-old religious propaganda, the world might end at that, but only because of human stupidity…”

Exactly correct, TW, but why are you supporting Obama’s race to “end of the world” then? If he is not already steeped in “I don’t oppose all wars” and his arrogant fantasy of “the crucible of the sword” , you can conclude that his legalistic derision of Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount as “...a passage that is so radical that it is doubtful whether our own Defense Department would survive its application” is actually leading you all to nowhere! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPUe6T8RVXs

Thus your own derision of Hillary Clinton is meaningless as they both worship the gods of war in Israel and, whether that is mere lip service or not, will you vote for a Republican false god instead? Which is the surer path to hell???

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please substitute “Not possible” for “One or the other”

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By Maani, February 9, 2008 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment

Jojo:

All she does in this video is acknowledge support of Israel, and guarantee continued U.S. support of its security.  Obama has done the same.  So did Edwards.

Peace.

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By Expat, February 9, 2008 at 8:28 pm Link to this comment

“Expat, as long as there is breath, there is never a point when it is too late.  We have always compromised ever since our exit from the womb.  We have lots of practice at it.  We just forget that we do from the enigmatic seductions life has presented.  To find any happiness at all, one learns to understand that all of life is a compromise.  It is the natural condition of existence.”

Thanks for reminding me.  I love my life; it’s been a good one.

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By JoJo, February 9, 2008 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment
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Purplewolfie—Then explain why so many Americans are not questioning Hillary or McCain and are voting like cattle slated for slaughter.
It’s the media that makes kings or Queens. They lie to their readers. Here is a article that proves it.Explain how McCain got away with calling Chelsea a ugly creature and fathered by Janet Reno.And the media covered it up.
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html
Kingmaker Zion Media demands a stoog/lackie panderer for Israel.Even if a mule was President—It won’t matter,as long Israel is #1

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By Leefeller, February 9, 2008 at 7:27 pm Link to this comment

Bush has made the military his number one expense, the whole enchilada for bush. Dumping money like a drunk sailor, in bush’s case it would be more like a Vietnam evader into the Military complex, we are prepared for any major catastrophe unless it happens in our county, then we are screwed like the Katrina folks.

Bend over and spread them.

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By purplewolf, February 9, 2008 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment

George W. Bush is going to have another rude awakening, maybe in about ten years from now, when he thinks his legacy will show the world what a wonderful, insightful person he thinks he is and that everything he did improved the lives of people everywhere. Guess what Georgie, you must have been snorting that coke again and washed it down with some Johnny Walker Red. You have been the worst thing that has ever happened not only to America, but to the world that had ever walked the earth. More people have been murdered for your lies, more people have suffered and will continue to suffer because of your actions and lack of actions in many situations. No, I don’t think you will be remembered in the way you think you will, as a person of vision, hope and prosperity. In reality, you will go down as the worst terrorist mankind has ever known, next to Hitler, and you would have make him jealous of you if he were alive today. And you have only yourself to thank for that. The damage you have wrought will take centuries to correct, if then. Your legacy is a legacy of lies, deceit, corruption, dishonesty, torture, indifference, greed, just to name a few of the things you are known for. Honesty is a stranger to you and has been and is still missing in your whole 7+ years of disservice to America and the world.

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By yours truly, February 9, 2008 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment
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“We put someone in the White House who is going to end the Iraq war plus turning things around here at home.”

“What about staying the course in Iraq plus turning things around here at home?”

“One or the other.”

“Why is that?”

“Either we end the Iraq war or it’ll be the end of us.”

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By Shenonymous, February 9, 2008 at 8:39 am Link to this comment

While I can understand the source of pessimism, Expat, I think to let it become the ruler of one’s life is much too debilitating.  I happen to love life and want to realize the promises the energy I have gives me.  No one promised me that life would be happy, a bed of roses, or that others or a coherent world itself would always be there for me.  My experience is that most of I have loved have died, except for my children, and that I have to rebuild a continued happy existence with whatever I have.  That is my self-mission.  The fact that the environment in which I live is messed up by self-serving assholes is just one of those aggravations that life has brought my way.  Overcoming such adversity is one of those tasks in my life purpose which is on a different track than those who would steal it away, because I choose to be diferent.  Resistance is the call of the day:  To resist the seduction of contemptuousness.  To resist the authoritarians.  To resist the naysayers, and to resist pretentious egotism.  That does not mean I do not have an ego, for that is the life force that keeps an organism like myself going.  And I am aware of it.

What is more dubious than psychiatry is all-consuming suspicion.  I used the image as an emblem of the need, or rather to use your own idea, pragmatic use, for clear thinking.  It is time to clear the throat, and mind, and speak louder and conspicuously.  It is also time to act.  The kind of ‘acceptance’ that seems to have been missed in my use of that word is that recognition of reality, acceptance for what it is, is the only way to move forward since any other posture is delusional and one might just keep stepping in shit.  I try to avoid that, hopefully, at all cost.  Expat, as long as there is breath, there is never a point when it is too late.  We have always compromised ever since our exit from the womb.  We have lots of practice at it.  We just forget that we do from the enigmatic seductions life has presented.  To find any happiness at all, one learns to understand that all of life is a compromise.  It is the natural condition of existence.

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By jojo, February 9, 2008 at 8:26 am Link to this comment
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U-got to see this video of Hillary pan handling in Israel.  She will top Jr. Bush in any war crimes.
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=8863

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By Expat, February 9, 2008 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

^ Psychiatry is expensive and of dubious value.  However your point is well taken.  We need help and yes; a democrat is necessary or we are in deeper doo doo.  I’m a reluctant pragmatist, resentful of the crap crammed down my throat.  As an admitted idealist from the 60’s I have found it very difficult to accept the total lack of civil involvement in the ongoing politic.  Acceptance is defeat following a long line of defeat over the last generation.  If life, both political and pragmatic, is a series of compromises, then at what point do we stop compromising to save our very existence?  At some point it is too late and there is nothing left, save the government.

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By jingles, February 8, 2008 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
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Shenonymous—both parties are the same.Notice that all have to support Israel and don’t impeach Bush/ ChenyDick or warn the public about the media being zionist controlled?
Nothing will change. Ask yourself—how could the public in general have voted for McCain and Hillary in great numbers.Both these folks need help from psychiatrists.They are surrounded by zionist handlers and funders. Eight years of Bush now 16 years of Hillary. Billy the Goat has scores to still.Or has he ? Jr.Bush covered for him but good and hopes Hillary would do the same. Nothing will change unless the kingmaker media gets a good cleanout and all voter’s results are public info.

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By lilmamzer, February 8, 2008 at 11:20 am Link to this comment

“a credible UN study ”

That’s an oxymoron.
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“For a person in the position Cheney is in to say “Damn right, we’d do it again” demonstrates his callous disregard for human life because it is muslim human life. “

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims. Putting your head in the sand won’t make that reality, that problem, that threat - go away.

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By lilmamzer, February 8, 2008 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

“a credible UN study “

That’s an oxymoron.
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<i>“For a person in the position Cheney is in to say “Damn right, we’d do it again” demonstrates his callous disregard for human life because it is muslim human life. “</b>

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims. Putting your head in the sand won’t make that reality, that problem, that threat - go away.

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By GW=MCHammered, February 8, 2008 at 10:21 am Link to this comment
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And so when they put GWB’s likeness on Mount Rushmore (you know they will), shall it be a burning Bill of Rights or a heap of smoldering rubbish? I vote the latter.

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By Jingles, February 8, 2008 at 7:18 am Link to this comment
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There will always be aid money for Israel but in Euros.Lot’s of tainted money to bribe UN countries.
Don’t worry,be happy you Americans,there is a bright light at the end of the sewer tunnel—the soon to be occuption of Iran.—Just imagine with that Iraq/Iran black gold—all for USi and some for free medical care.

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By Leefeller, February 8, 2008 at 7:15 am Link to this comment

Having ones head examined should start at the top,with lying bush move to number two happy Chaney and so on, when we get to congress and they are declared insane we have the great luxury to vote them back into office.

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By Shenonymous, February 8, 2008 at 6:58 am Link to this comment

To the Choir:  Is there a psychiatrist in the house?  The charge is that Clinton and Obama are not that different.  If so, you are quibbling over breadcrumbs.  The issue is do you want another Republican regime for however long McCain’s health holds out? Yes, we do need mass demonstrations since the war is still going on and there is a hushhush in the media about the real issues that are affecting every American, religious or not (and the fact is, believe it or not, most of them aren’t, they jes be hypocrites). It won’t matter whether Clinton or Obama is elected. One of them will be elected there is no doubt in my mind.  Whoever that might be, they are indubitably going to be between the proverbial rock and hard place because the blatantly hideous Republican regime has divided America into a them and us partition with their wretched economic policies, their despicable war policies, their beggarly education policies, their trivial infrastructure, their vile environmental policies, and their shabby world policies and have left the mess for the next president to spend the bulk of their time cleaning up the shit.  How anybody who belongs to a body politic, a commonwealth such as is our country, a people who work their asses off to have a decent life, could vote for anyone other than a Democrat ought to have their head examined.

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By Jack, February 7, 2008 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment
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Waterboarding, providing $20.00 in aid to children ($300 million), while giving $267,000 per person in tax reductions to the richest 1% at the same time in a $1.4 trillion tax reduction plan, invading another country on lies - see NPR for verification of the facts.  It’s hard for me to think that I’m living in the USA.  I’m very conservative, but we were better than this at one time.  I’m a former captain in the US Army and a tax auditor.  We are going the way of Mexico, but our citizens won’t have the US to escape to for respect and a livable wage in the future years.

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By jackpine savage, February 7, 2008 at 7:32 pm Link to this comment

Ahh, it is important to remember that the troops are hardly the recipients of most of those funds.  There is a general staff of 3000; there are weapons systems for fighting enemies we do not have; there are weapons systems that don’t yet work, but have already been rendered obsolete by our “enemies”; and then there are the weapons systems that the Pentagon does not even want, but the politicians do.

Our priorities are so far out of whack that it boggles the mind.  But this is the way of all great powers, right before they cease to be great powers.

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By Dee Kappos, February 7, 2008 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment
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Quite literally, Bush and those around him are pure evil…

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/dick_cheney_damn_right_wed_do.html

About a year ago, a credible UN study estimated that upwards of 650,000 people have died in Iraq as a result of the U.S. invasion and its aftermath.

For a person in the position Cheney is in to say “Damn right, we’d do it again” demonstrates his callous disregard for human life because it is muslim human life.

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By markmac, February 7, 2008 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
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fuck ‘em . these genocidal maniacs should be tried in the hague and executed on national television .

that would be good enough for a thirty share . at least !

markmac

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By Maani, February 7, 2008 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

Tony:

It may sound strange coming from a minister, but what is even more frightening is that many of these people are trying to HASTEN that end by deliberately fomenting tensions in the Middle East, since they believe that will hasten the Second Coming.

What is absurd about this is that, even assuming the prophecies are true, what makes these people think that anything a HUMAN BEING does is going to change GOD’S “timeable?”  Don’t they realize that “if God is God,” then He can thwart attempts to hasten His schedule?

Sadly, their actions may nevertheless endanger us all.

Peace.

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By Tony Wicher, February 7, 2008 at 3:10 pm Link to this comment

This “last days” crap is sheer religious hysteria. The Book of Revelations is the hallucination of a hashhead. It is interesting that there are so many religious hysterics. It does show that people despair of solving their problems and are hoping for an end to it all. If they don’t start using their brains instead of spreading around this 2000-year-old religious propaganda, the world might end at that, but only because of human stupidity.

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By librochi5, February 7, 2008 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment
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“You cannot spend well over $700 billion on “national security,” running what the White House predicts will be more than $400 billion in annual deficits for the next two years, and yet find the money to improve the quality of life on the home front.”

How true, Mr. Scheer. How ridiculous that exceedingly absurd amounts of money is spent on the war, leaving the home front worse off for it. Some say that if you cut funding, then you cut support to the troops. What about the flip side? Who knew that if you increase spending for the troops, that imperative funding for their children and every needy child in this nation will be cut?

Example: Reading is Fundamental. As one of the nation’s largest literacy programs, RIF strives to distribute books for kids that need them. They distribute over 16 million books a year. But with the new plan for FY09, RIF will be rendered nearly useless with proposed budget cuts. How can a non-profit that fights against illiteracy and poverty be cut in favor of increased Iraq war spending?

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By cyrena, February 7, 2008 at 2:03 pm Link to this comment

No doubt you’ve hit it on the head DougB. Thing is though…our economy has already collapsed, because they didn’t get enough of it in time. I mean yeah, the price of a barrel of oil has gone from $20 to $100 in 6 years, but that hasn’t saved OUR ‘economy’ only Exxon’s. (and their buddies of course).

So, while it’s true that the ‘war on terror’ will go on until the last drop has been stolen, (unless a new administration calls a halt, and that would take a while, for the same reason that one cannot stop a train on a dime) it’s never been ‘our’ economy that’s been propped up by the theft. Only ‘their’ economy, as evidenced by Exxon’s most recent posted profits. Each quarter, for the past 28 of them, their profits are larger than the quarter before. They are always RECORD profits. Not OUR profits..THEIR profits.

For all intents and purposes, ‘our’ economy has already ‘collapsed’.

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By JimBob, February 7, 2008 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment

Osama saw us spend the Soviet Union into the ground.  It took a long time, because the Russkis are pretty gritty people, but we did it.  Realizing, perhaps, that Americans—who’ve never had to fight on their own soil, who’ve never been tested by seeing their cities bombed and besieged—would be easier to panic, Osama did what he could with what he had at his disposal.  AND IT’S WORKING!!  Three planes, a couple of buildings and a death toll that wouldn’t account for the first ten minutes of D-Day…and the Americans, scared witless, are—you got it—spending themselves into beggary. 
The walls of Osama’s cave must be echoing with his hearty laughter.

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By lastdaywatchers, February 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment

The defeat of Romney can be summed up in a letter I wrote to Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin

Here is a excerpt “I hope you realize now that the true base of the Conservative movement is the Evangelicals, not you phony baloney Bush supporters who hate our troop by your cigar smoking metal midget thinking of supporting waterbroading

“You talk radio type’s who would support a cult leader in a time when we need to fight a religious war (not militarily); show how truly devoid you are of true Conservative principles”

“You need to read all of the post of the May 15th Prophecy and maybe you will have your eyes open to the truth that is going on in the world today”

Go to http://may15thprophecy.blogspot.com/

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By Mudwollow, February 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment

The money is gone. Vanished. Kaput. It was never there in the first place. All there is is a gigantic I/O you for your babies babies to deal with. What in the name of God is interesting about yet another I/O you slip been placed on the pile?

Shedding credibility on Son of Bush by indulging these absurd theatrics leads one to think that the editors need their meds adjusted or better yet go back to old-fashioned mind altering substances.

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By Paracelsus, February 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

To my way of thinking voting got us into this mess, so it is not going to get us out. We are presented with very seriously flawed characters. I would not want any one of them to babysit my neighbor’s children. I have gone on for donkey days detailing each candidate’s connection to some elite group of scumbags. Yep, I voted for Ron Paul. So they have a sand box for me. Allow me that foolish indulgence.

The best way to defeat the system is not to use the system. If you pay income taxes, don’t. If you use federal reserve notes, stop. There are barter systems to use. Don’t use their drugs, or their schools.

One of the most hated peoples to the system are aboriginals.  Indians had no use for silver or gold; they used barter. They had their own medicines. They had their own ways to live off the land. Many of them were migratory tribes. How do you tax a people on their land, if they are free roaming? So the Indians had to be killed.

I remember a story of how the English did not even want to waste their best men on “the likes of them”. They did not even want to risk the lives of soldiers to kill them off. So the commander of English Canada hatched a plot to give the Indian emissaries beautiful, silver boxes with the scrapings of small pox remenants. The emissaries were instructed that the boxes had healing medicine in them to heal their peoples with. But the boxes could not be opened until they were among their kind. As you can imagine the frontiers of Canada were well cleared of the natives.

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By Joe, February 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
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The size of the military budget isn’t nearly as important as the allocation of those assets. If the money is spent to modernize the army, that’s fine, as long as the Army is kept here in the US for deployment only in an actual emergency. If money is spent to close most of our overseas bases, as demanded by Congressman Paul, tens of billions in savings would return to our shores. If the money is spent to reconstitute our destroyed National Guard, with the goal of restoring their proper function here in domestic times of emergency, great.  Etc.

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By Thomas Billis, February 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment

One candidate said the system is rigged and corrupt and the voters rejected him.So if you are left with candidates who are for status quo and that is larger and larger military spending who is to blame.The other America which is most of us will rue the day they rejected the John Edwards candidacy.

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By Gabir, February 7, 2008 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

B. Cummings - D. Troiano)(The Guess Who)

Rich World , Poor World

Rich world, poor world, everyday it’s gettin’ modified.
Rich world, poor world, aren’t you glad you’re on the Western side,
Individual luxury just might be the trump of the game,
If you come back round with a gun at your head, I’m sure the view will never be the same.
I heard something that you never been told,
You’ll have trouble just trying’ to get old,
I got something, gonna give you the word,
I’m interested if you have heard,
I don’t really mean to bring you right down,
The safest place for you’s way under the ground,
A “HOT SOMETHIN’” that you never been told,
Told, you been told, you been told, you been told, you been told, you been told.

Rich world, poor world, fewer places every day to hide,
Rich world, poor world, I like it better on the Western side,
A growing epidemic of ignorance been keeping me on the run,
With a jaded ear and a whole lot of fear, we’re gonna wither up one by one.
I got something that you never been told,
Gonna have trouble just tryin’ to get old,
I got something that you never heard,
Come on now, just spread the word,
I got somethin’, gonna make you hip,
Now don’t go blabbin’ and let it slip,
For what you got I think you over paid,
I’m afraid, I’m afraid, I’m afraid, I’m afraid.

“Hi there little starving Asian child with bloated belly, open sores, and look of despair. My, you are hungry, aren’t you? You know, I’d love to help you get enough nutrition to perpetuate your misery a little further, but right now I’ve just got to finish this thesis on the Divine Right of Kings. See you tomorrow.”

“Hi there little golden Greekette, Capri-bound modern Venus, with fenced beach and medically transformed nose and midriff… I know how heartbroken you are that your best friend beat you to Paris for the unveiling of the latest fashions, and I’d love to console you but, you see, I lost my right leg yesterday trying to scrounge up a shot of antibiotics. Oh well…”

Rich world, poor world, everyday it’s gettin’ modified.
Rich world, poor world, I like it better on the Western side,
A growing epidemic of ignorance been keepin’ us on the run,
With a jaded ear and a whole lot of fear, we’re gonna wither up one by one.
I heard somethin’, gonna make you blue,
Don’t get excited cause you know it ain’t new,
I got somethin’ gonna make you hip,
Now don’t go blabbin’ and let it slip, you hear,
Now I don’t mean to be bringing’ you down,
You won’t be safe till you’re layin’ in the ground,
For what you got I think you overpaid,
I’m afraid, I’m afraid, I’m afraid, I’m afraid, I’m afraid.

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By Tony Wicher, February 7, 2008 at 10:23 am Link to this comment

This threat has been ginned up by our own military-industrial complex which is pocketing untold trillions of dollars “defending” us from it. It profits from war. It haa no interest in making us “more secure”, on the contrary, the less secure we are, the more money it makes.

Hillary is not going to do anything to fundamentally change this. Obama just might have the guts to do something about it.

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By GW=MCHammered, February 7, 2008 at 10:15 am Link to this comment
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Amen, Leefeller!

Capitol Hill is a mockery of democracy.
But too many kool-aid junkies besiege us.

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By cyrena, February 7, 2008 at 9:53 am Link to this comment

Lawyer or not, you covered it quite well here ex-pat. The reason is multiple. (I could break it down if you want..but you’ve already come close enough for government work on that).

For this regime, the very top crimes, (the ultimate taboo) is the torture and the preemptive strike on a sovereign nation state without UN approval.

Article of the UN Charter forbids the use of force except in the case of self-defense, so that would pretty much ALWAYS rule out preemptive strikes, although there are exceptions, since no nation can or would be expected to wait until they’ve actually been attacked, in order to act in self-defense.

SO…THAT’S why there is the UN Security Council. They can and do assess the possibilities of these possible needs for one country to defend itself against a probable or possible attack by another, and then they can approve a resolution for pre-emptive action, of which there are many types that can be effective, PRIOR to just bombing the hell out of another nation. (sanctions, etc)

HOWEVER…as most of us have come to learn, (I hope) the UN would NOT approve a resolution to attack Iraq in a preemptive strike despite the fact that 9/11 had been created exactly for this purpose…to give George the excuse to attack anybody on the globe in the name of ‘the war on terror’. So, they did it anyway, minus the required resolution. That alone made it an illegal attack, in violation of International Law.

And, the use of force for the purpose of self-defense OBVIOUSLY doesn’t allow the OCCUPATION of another sovereign state, and the theft of its property/land/natural resources. So, even if there had been a legitimate, (rather than a cooked up/created/false pretense) reason to ‘defend ourselves’ from any enemy, it damn sure didn’t mean ‘defending ourselves’ by permanent occupation of their territory. So, more war crimes.

There is also a long list of duties of occupation. (Like, in those instances where a country has been legally occupied for the purposes of intervention, and permitted by resolution from the UN). In that case as well, the occupiers (Dick Bush and Cable) have also violated multiple laws, failing to provide security for the civilian population, and failing to provide for their basic needs. Matter of fact, prior to Saddam’s deposition, the civilians of that nation did get to eat, and go to school and to work, and they had housing, electricity, sewage, etc, etc…ya know. the standard stuff that human most human societies pretty much depend on. So, there’s a whole bunch more laws that have been violated.

Anyway, you can add to the list Crimes Against the Peace and Crimes Against Humanity, but you’re right that they do overlap. The list is so long now, that I’ve lost track.

Oh, they also fall into the Kleptocrat category of war criminals, for the theft of OUR monies and natural resources, as well as those of Iraq and Afghanistan. One of Africa’s many dictators is at the top of the Kleptocrat list, (I can’t think of his name right now). Or..he was until Dick Bush came along.

I’m pretty sure this is the worst regime since Hitler, and they’ve actually done far more killing, since the bush team is definitely a transnational terrorist organization. Makes those other so-called terrorists look like a group of rowdy delinquents, but not much more.

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By Bill Blackolive, February 7, 2008 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
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Yes.  Shit Lake rises. Glub, glub. Because so many like Scheer will not yet open Pandora’s Box, the 9/11 coverup.  But this pot is boiling over, so sissies like Scheer have to jump suddenly or retire in disgrace.  Hey, latest at patriotsquestion9/11 is Michael Moorer and Willie Nelson.  Whee.

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By Jean Tracy, February 7, 2008 at 8:23 am Link to this comment
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The bloated military budget proposed by the President and his staff should be spent on ways to promote peace in the world, not wars.

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By Maani, February 7, 2008 at 8:15 am Link to this comment

rcat:

Over 50 years?  Well, I believe the next figure after trillions is…quadrillions.  It’s gotta be close.

Peace.  (Or some facsimile thereof…)

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By rcat99, February 7, 2008 at 6:57 am Link to this comment

Someone please come up with a ballpark figure of all the money—putting aside the cost in human lives and opportunities lost—we have spent on defense of this country over the past 50 years.  Defense Dept, CIA, DIA, NSA, etc.  How many trillions have been poured into guns and bullets and aircraft carriers, soldiers, spies and bureaucrats in the name of defending our country.  And today, in 2008, after all the expense and at the inevitable cost of short-changing other long-festering problems, we’re scared witless by a ragtag band of “evil doers”.  Boy, talk about money misspent.

Now I’m sure we’ve gained some security over the decades by this effort but, please, we need to re-examine our priorities and our sense of proportion in our responses to the challenges we face.  Our entire culture in the 21st century cannot be defined by the threat of terrorism, real or imagined.

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By Leefeller, February 7, 2008 at 6:47 am Link to this comment

Impeachment is off the table, so every one of our representatives in Washington should be off the table.  Throw the bums out, bums used here is a polite word.

We voted for Change last year, and the rule of law has been trashed, congress has turned into yes men for special interests, lobbyists and the lying bush.

We are losing our jobs,  our rights and the cast system is becoming something we will have to accept.  The hand single handed lying bush and congress have not protected the constitution.  They should all be thrown from office.

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By Expat, February 7, 2008 at 5:31 am Link to this comment

^ enough.

The Legacy of the Bush?  Depends on ones point of view; from here, the legacy is considerable and Scheer tried to make a book into a one page article.  Here truthdig is only one shovel full out of a quarry full of digging.
Geneva Convention; trashed.
Constitution; trashed.
Human rights; trashed.
Economy; trashed (that’s a book buy itself).
Bill of Rights; trashed.
Individual rights; trashed.
Congress of the U.S.; trashed.
America’s standing in the world; trashed.
America’s non-military power in the world (honest broker diplomacy); trashed.
Health care; trashed.
Education; trashed.
Privacy; trashed.
Crimes committed; treason, war crimes, torture, theft, forgery, violation of the Constitution (multiple), violation of International Laws, pre-emptive strike on a sovereign nation (probably another war crime) and on and on and on.  Not being a lawyer, I’m sure I missed some and was redundant on others.
The musings of a very grumpy old man.

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By Inherit The Wind, February 7, 2008 at 4:33 am Link to this comment

“George Bush’s legacy? George Bush has no legacy!”—William F. Buckley, “Mr. Conservative”

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By proudlefty, February 6, 2008 at 11:50 pm Link to this comment

If the “leadership” on the Hill had any calcium in their spines they would take Bush’s budget and simply sit on it. They don’t have to do anything with it. For all intents and purposes, it’s only a “wish list” from the President. The Constitution gives budgetary power to the Congress.

But I think we all know that will never happen. They lack the political leadership, will, and the backbone necessary to stop this insanity.

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By DougB, February 6, 2008 at 9:21 pm Link to this comment
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The “war on terror” will continue until the oil wells in the middle east make a sound similar to the one your straw makes when it reaches the bottom of your cold drink (when only the ice remains). Only then will the “war on terror” end, and not a day sooner. We are there because the worlds last large “easy to get” remaining oil reserves are there. Without them, our economy will collapse.

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By Buzz Wilms, February 6, 2008 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment

You’ve done a marvelous job showing the devastating effects of the Iraq war on our ability to pay for what this country so urgently needs.  Somehow the voters don’t get it - the economy has now become the number one priority and the war has slid down the ladder.  Thank you….

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By Maani, February 6, 2008 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

Here’s another “legacy” of Bush II, one that his administration will continue to push until the very last day of their tenure: the climate of fear associated with the never-ending “war on terror.”

The link below is to an article that appeared in the NYT on 2/6/08. The Bushies are once again attempting to frighten everyone via the all-purpose bogeymen (OBL, Al Qaeda) and their “ability to strike in the U.S.”

An excerpt: “Al Qaeda is gaining in strength from its refuge in Pakistan and is steadily improving its ability to recruit, train and position operatives capable of carrying out attacks inside the United States, the director of national intelligence told a Senate panel on Tuesday. The director, Mike McConnell, told lawmakers that Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, remained in control of the terrorist group and had promoted a new generation of lieutenants. He said Al Qaeda was also improving what he called “the last key aspect of its ability to attack the U.S.” — producing militants, including new Western recruits, capable of blending into American society and attacking domestic targets.”

Controlling through fear…

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/washington/06intel.html?ref=us&pagewanted=print

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By Hammo, February 6, 2008 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment

Scheer makes good points about getting a handle on extreme waste in “defense” spending.

From “homeland security” to unlimited occupation of Iraq, billions in pork have been thrown around to political cronies bellying up to the federal hog trough as they have looted the U.S. treasury.

Intelligent future U.S. military and intelligence operations must be thought through carefully.

Weapons systems and other hardware should also be funded in an intelligent way.

And, we might even consider savings and other significant advantages in increasing funding for “peace operations.”

This involves training for U.S. personnel, maintaining adequate logistics capabilities, implementing different kinds of information/communications operations and other activities.

Everyone seems to agree that it’s time for “change.” We can change our defense operations in very postive ways. Thoughts along these lines in the article ...

“U.S. global peace officer or corrupt cop? ‘Peace operations’ explored” (AmericanChronicle.com, Dec. 20, 2007) at ...
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=46707

“Global peace officer or corrupt cop?” (PopulistAmerica.com, Populist Party of America, Dec. 24, 2007) at ...

http://www.populistamerica.com/global_peace_officer_or_corrupt_cop

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By jackpine savage, February 6, 2008 at 4:12 pm Link to this comment

Thanks for the link.  I’ve seen estimates running even higher than that, but it only goes to show that nobody knows…and that’s what’s scary.

You might be interested in reading “House of War” (James Carroll); its a compelling history of how we got to this point.

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By jackpine savage, February 6, 2008 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment

Well, obviously we cannot know which candidate would cut into the military budget.  The sad truth is that neither probably could.  In the first two quarters of ‘04, 60% of our 3.3% GDP growth was directly attributable to military spending.  Military Keynesianism…see Chalmers Johnson.

But we can know who has closer ties to the M-I complex right now.  I provided some proof farther down the thread.  Sen. Clinton, even as a junior Senator, has become rather famous for her earmarks on the “defense” budget.  And these earmarks have grown since ‘02; 2008’s budget had 261 earmarks by Sen. Clinton.  I’ve got no handy proof, but i’ve read numerous sources that say she has the most funding from the “defense” industry.

And let us repeat: Sen Clinton voted FOR clusterbombs and landmines, Sen Obama voted AGAINST them.  As one who’s lived in a not yet land mine free country, i can tell you that they really take the carefree fun out of a walk in the woods.

BTW, earmarks for 2008 from Sen Obama totaled 1…but maybe he just hasn’t gotten into the swing of things yet.

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By keith22, February 6, 2008 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment

This link below gives a more truthful picture of how much we spend on the military every year. 
http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

Do you think the interest should not be included?  You should say this in your article and explain why.

Do you think medical care and retirement of the military should not be included?  You should say this in your article and explain why.

There is so much denial about how militaristic the US has become—-even when one claims to be revealing the whole truth.

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By Maani, February 6, 2008 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment

Cyrena:

You said, “And, that’s exactly the point!!! Barack does NOT have this connection to the military/industrial/government complex, OR…EVEN TO THE CORPORATE OLIGARCHY!”

I’m not sure what you are referring to as the “corporate oligarchy,” but let’s take a look at the campaign finances of Obama and Hillary during the 2007-2008 election cycle.

Obama’s largest corporate contributors were Goldman Sachs ($421,000), UBS ($296,000) and Lehman Bros ($250,000).  Others at the top include JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and…Exelon ($220,000) - the very corporation he promised to protect his constituents from, but then caved in to rewritten legislation that further protected the corporation from liability.

By industry, some of his largest contributions were from: Lawyers and Law Firms ($9 million), Securities and Investments ($5.3 million) and Real Estate ($2.7 million).

Hillary’s contributor lists is very similar (which means all those financial firms are hedging their bets…LOL), though her fifth largest contributor was Emily’s List.  And while Obama only accepted about $3,000 from lobbyists, Hillary actually took in under $1 million ($823,000) out of over $100 million raised.

The big difference between them was PAC money: Obama took in only $14,000, while Hillary took in about $600,000.  Though, again, as a percentage of over $100 million, that is pretty small.

What is notable, however, is that NEITHER of their lists include MIC contributors (e.g., defense, aircraft, etc.).

My source for these stats was opensecrets.org, a reliable and neutral source for this type of info.

You also said, “But, wouldn’t a fairly reasonable person figure out that he has been opposed to the military action in the Middle East since, BEFORE IT BEGAN, and since he has CONSISTENTLY vowed to end it, (something else that the pundits somehow miss picking up on) that it would pretty obviously cut the spending of the billions that have gone into that?”

You say “consistently vowed to end it.”  Yet, as I have noted ad nauseam, those “vows” were not backed up by ACTION vis-a-vis his Senate voting record. Indeed, GIVEN that record - i.e., supporting continued appropriations for the war - not only is it NOT reasonable to assume that he would “pretty obviously cut the spending of the billions that have gone into that,” but that he has done exactly the opposite.

Peace.

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By BobZ, February 6, 2008 at 2:26 pm Link to this comment

The Republican’s don’t talk about Ike much anymore - he had the temerity to talk about the waste of military spending at the expense of other needs in the U.S., like education and health care. And then he compounded the problem by warning of the “Military/Industrial” complex in his farewell address to the nation. Military spending will eventually doom us to second class world status just as it has previous world powers like Britain, France, and Germany. Other countries can afford universal health care not because they have such high taxes but because they don’t have an expensive military to support. Scheer is right, nobody running for president except Ron Paul talks about cutting military expenditures and nobody takes Paul seriously because of his far out libertarian views. America is now being held hostage to a 9/11 fear strategy, and a knee jerk defense of Israel no matter how outrageous their foreign policy and treatment of the Palistinean’s. Our military is the real third rail of American politics. Dare try to cut military spending and you are accused of being soft on terror and far worse.  Our only hope if for the Democrats to sweep Congress and the White House with a huge mandate for change and then begin the process of selling the hard choices this country will need to make over the next four-ten years.

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By proudlefty, February 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

people here die because they have no health care. Kids drop out of rotten schools and nobody cares. Young people who want to go to college to realize their dreams are left saddled with debt that will take 30 years to repay. Working class people no longer have jobs that pay a living wage, are are losing their homes in record numbers. We have an infant mortality rate lower than some Third World countries.

Yeah, GW, you have managed to leave quite a legacy!

The piggy bank is broken… nothing left.

Why is it that we can spend trillions to kill people, but we won’t spend millions to insure our uninsured kids (and save some lives)?

If this ain’t Bizarro World, I don’t know what is.

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By Paracelsus, February 6, 2008 at 2:03 pm Link to this comment

Ron Paul sounds like he has conviction. I voted for him last Tuesday. The thought of him closing down foreign military bases, and rolling back the Patriot Act was just too tempting for this registered Democrat. Now to the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYP6Sgn3cW8

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By Shorey Chapman, February 6, 2008 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment

Memo to Mr. Scheer:  You are very accurate in describing symptoms, occasionally hint at the actual causes, and missing in action when it comes to possible solutions.  I have been reading your columns for years, and neither you nor your regular commenters seem either capable of or even interested in real change.  Today’s column is yet one more nail in the coffin of our (so-called) representative democracy.  It is broken, and writing about it is nothing but fantasy politics - a certain amount of ego satisfaction and exactly ZERO real world consequences.  Power, and those who worship it, respects nothing but equal and opposite power.  If only Martin Luther King Jr. were still here.  He would be organizing massive non-violent civil disobedience.  Arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin (which is a sadly accurate description of 99% of the comments to your columns) is taken by the power junkies as proof of our weakness and irrelevance.  It is way past time for meaningful action.  Once again, I ask, how bad does it have to get?

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By cyrena, February 6, 2008 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Mike Mid-City…

Excellent post, but here’s where you hit it on the head, and it’s the part that Scheer misses, along with everyone else…

You write:

” Barack while he lacks the 35 years of exposure to the military/industrial/government complex does offer a change…”

And, that’s exactly the point!!! Barack does NOT have this connection to the military/industrial/government complex, OR…EVEN TO THE CORPORATE OLIGARCHY!

So, that might be because Obama has failed to make his positions totally clear. (although it’s clear enough to me). OR… pundits and a partisan mass lumping him in with the rest, (which is basically what Scheer does here, though admittedly, he is not alone), based on what Obama has NOT directly stated, or because they’ve chosen NOT to interpret was he HAS stated, as anything more than the same. It’s a tad bit like having to prove oneself innocent, rather than the ‘prosecution’ having to prove the guilt. In other words, the onus in this contest on him is to ‘prove’ that he doesn’t think like any of the other candidates, despite the fact that he may agree on many basic issues, that all of the rest of us would agree with as well.

In short, all of these issues with providing for our domestic needs on the home front have been discussed by Obama, (and his wife to a lesser degree) during this campaign, and on multiple occasions. He HAS, on multiple occasions, addressed the poverty, and the need for education, and the need for technology and an improvement in the sciences, and our health concerns. I can remember just one comment (because it was a forceful one) from a talk given by Michelle Obama, when she stated that it was ‘imperative’ to mind one’s own backyard and/or affairs FIRST, and foremost.

But, that’s not the only remark. Barack himself has addressed these issues, (specifically with jobs, and the damage that NAFTA has created) and he’s done it over and over again. So, this makes me wonder why none of the media that I read, (including what is supposed to be independent media) never ever focuses on this. I mean, it would be different if these comments/positions from Barack were only mentioned here and there, which means they could be easily missed. That is NOT the case however. If this (or any website) published even 35% of the speeches and/or comments that he’s made, there would be no legitimate argument for lumping him in with the rest.

They might be able to argue that he hasn’t provided any of the links in a method for even the brainless to figure out. Like, I don’t think I have myself heard him make the commitment to slashing the military budget, in exactly those words. But, wouldn’t a fairly reasonable person figure out that he has been opposed to the military action in the Middle East since, BEFORE IT BEGAN, and since he has CONSISTENTLY vowed to end it, (something else that the pundits somehow miss picking up on) that it would pretty obviously cut the spending of the billions that have gone into that? Can they not connect those dots; or do they just not want to?

Now the issue of a cooperative Congress is important. COULD Obama get the cooperation that he needs to do an immediately halt to these wars of aggression and imperialism? I don’t know. We can say that because something like 70% of Americans disapprove of the war, that Congress would go along. But, we’ve seen that not to be the case. Well over 50% of Americans think Bush and Cheney should be impeached, but Congress refuses to act. (Barack has responded to that question by saying that it is a remedy that can and should be considered).

So, I don’t know how cooperative Congress would be. But, ‘we the people’ could change that as well.

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By dihey, February 6, 2008 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

Excellent!!!
The big tests for the Democratic wannabes is still to come very soon. It is not so much the “bloated military budget” that President Bush asks for, but the 70 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan.

There was a time in the past when it made good sense to attach big strings to an Iraq war appropriation but the wisest policy at this time for Clinton and Obama is to vote for the 70 billion (or if less is needed, then less)with the following justification:

1. If the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan truly need these funds, then the funds must be appropriated somehow.
2. Attaching time-lines of ending the war to the appropriation is a waste of time because such a bill cannot pass the Senate.
3. Voting for the bill may not be construed as my approval of the war in Iraq as it would be under the U.S. Supreme Court ruling of 1990 in Campbell vs. Clinton. I still object strenuously to the continuation of the war.
4. Only a Democratic President and an obstruction-free Senate (60 or more Senators [and forget about Lieberman] for ending the war soon) in 2009 can end the war and bring the troops back home.

The 70 billion dollar issue will place Obama between a rock and a hard place. He may antagonize his irresponsible anti-war wing if he votes aye, but open himself up to Republican attacks of “abandoning the troops” if he votes against. On this issue he cannot be “absent” or vote “present”. I think that Hillary Clinton has a slight advantage here because the irresponsible antis expect her to vote aye. That makes no difference because they will not vote for her anyway.

I have been against this illegal war before it even started but I am not a “being right idiot”. Prudence demands that the Democrats bide their time now, ask the voters to defeat all the pro-war Republican candidates with huge margins in November 2008 and begin to end the war in January 2009.


If Senator McCain becomes the Republican nominee, then any notion of “uniting the country” will become a cubic mile of hot air. “Unity” will not be the issue but the question “more war or less war?” will be. Obama had better change his vapid mantras and get serious because McCain will respond: “Uniting the Country? Fine with me. Let’s be united to win the war against Al Qaida beginning in Iraq”.

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By G.Anderson, February 6, 2008 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment

Somehow I remember the Soviet Union’s involvment in Afghanistan. You know the War where the CIA trained Osamba Ben Laden, to lead insurgents against Soviet soldiers.

I seem to remember something to the effect that the War cost Russia so much money that it led to the collapse of the country. People in Russia routinely waited all day for a loaf of bread.

Money problems untimately led to the Soviet defeat.
I’m sure this fact was not lost on Osama Ben Laden, and may be even part of his stategy against us.

Wouldn’t that be ironic, if he just spent us “to death”.

Thus maybe in some crazy way Bush will loose the war by loosing the finances of the country.

Unfortunately, the next president, whomever that maybe, good or evil, however you see it. May not have the money to do really anything more than try to keep American’s from standing in line all day for a loaf of bred, and little else.

No more wars, no more social programs, no more pork, no more arguments over spending priorities, no more anything. 

We will have to go abroad to ask for the money, to do much of anything. Much as we have to go abroad to borrow the money for the stimulus package. And they may not give it too us..

Meanwhile American’s personal financial situation is sinking to new lows as well. The average wage today is lower in worth than it was in 1970. So the next few years may see only bankrupcy on the horizon,  personal bankrucpy, coroprate bankrupcy, and governmental bankrucpy.

Maybe the country will have to go through some sort of reformation, just as the Soviet Union did. Hopefully this will be a good thing.

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 6, 2008 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

#By dick, February 6: “The government is controlled by the power elite, who want more war since it is profitable and allows total control of the masses. The next president will be another Bush, with full support of the Congress…”

#By Maani, February 6: ”...neither Hillary NOR Obama has said ONE WORD about the military budget.  So to suggest that Obama would do anything different - especially anything significant - is at best wishful thinking and at worst insupportable Hillary-bashing…”

#By Tony Wicher, February 6: “Obama is the only one who might actually make an effort to do what is best for the country if he gets in…”

But “what is best for the country”, Tony Wicher? Is it Obama’s “crucible of the sword” and his “I don’t oppose all wars”??? That could very well soon be tested - and severely.

Perhaps we should indeed “curb our enthusiasm” because “even if your favored candidate did well on Super Tuesday”, you might soon have to “ask yourself if he or she will seriously challenge the bloated military budget that President Bush has proposed for 2009”.

That question has been raised anew by the test-firing of a rocket “intended to launch research satellites into space” by Iran….....

Russian alarm over Iranian missile test - “Russia has raised rare public doubts about Iran’s nuclear programme when Moscow questioned the test launch of a rocket earlier this week. The Russian deputy foreign minister, Alexander Losyukov, was quoted today by Russian news agencies saying the research rocket fired on Monday was as a cause for concern.

“It adds to general suspicions of Iran regarding its potential desire to build nuclear weapons,” Losyukov said. “Long-range missiles are one of the components of such weapons. That causes concern…” http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2253322,00.html

#By jackpine savage, February 6: ”...we should either fund the DoD as if it were simply to defend the nation, or we should call a spade a spade and start saying War Department. In any case, it is obvious who really runs this country…”

That must be the most intelligent thing you’ve said all year, jackpine savage. The trouble is how to change that for the better and to stop walking into the next war. Unwinding it will not be easy?!?!

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By hippy pam, February 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

the american people are gonna get a tax rebate-and I’m sure they will have to count that money as income on next years tax returns….and they[P.T.Bs.]still do not know who qualifies or how many will receive this money which is supposed to help the economic future of the country..this when most people are so behind on the bills and necessities…It will be like a “sugar rush” and when it is gone…the situation will still not be any better….Someone PLEASE HOLD EMPEROR BULLSH*T RESPONSIBLE…....

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By TruthSeeker, February 6, 2008 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment

Bush has done great damage to the US. However, as much bad as he did, he still continued the tradition of all Presidents, including Clinton, for the last two centuries. This is culminating in an establishment power grab the likes of which we have not seen.  Empire and Imperialism are now open secrets. What is not well known yet is that the elite are consolidating power against the common folk, you and me, in an increased police and surveillance state.  We are not far now when corporatism completely takes over. How long do we have left as an open, free society?

A fascinating read into this phenomenon, and one I highly recommend to go along with this article, is Manuel Valenzuela’s “The Year of Living Dangerously”. This is a must read if you want to understand where we are and where we are headed.
Broken up into two parts.

http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2008/02/year-of-living-dangerously-part-one-of.html

http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2008/02/year-of-living-dangerously-part-two-of.html

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By Zarathustra, February 6, 2008 at 12:22 pm Link to this comment
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These weapons systems are not for fighting terrorists and I don’t know of anyone who thinks that they are. China is a rising power, economically, militarily and in every other conceivable way. They want the lifestyle that we Americans have had since our industrial revolution and that means consuming resources at the same rate we do, per capita, which translates to 4x what we consume. If China starts to depend on coal/oil as much as we do, they might get feisty when it becomes scarce (as we might). I’m sure the US military planners are thinking about such things. This represents a much larger “existential threat” to the nation than does OBL and his rag tag bunch of terrorists.

Personally, I agree with Mr. Sheer that we would do better to invest in our crumbling infrastructure and our healthcare and education systems, but with military installations in 130 countries and military spending many times the rest of the world combined, this empire will not go quietly into the night…

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By SuGee, February 6, 2008 at 11:39 am Link to this comment
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Mr. Scheer,

Again, your statements are correct. It is so dispiriting that the Bush Administration is able to continue in their destruction of our country.  But it’s more than just the Executive Branch.  Our entire government is composed of a bunch of degenerates.  But that’s what has occurred particularily with these two criminals; George W. and Mr. “Go F**k Yourself”.  It’s just so pathetic.

Oh by the way, I’ve tried to register with your website, but unfortunately because I have already left messages, I’m not able to register with my chosen name.  Thanks once again for such a valuable website.

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By jackpine savage, February 6, 2008 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

I find it absolutely disgusting that the para-military contractors (at least the white ones) make more than our servicemen and women.  And i wish that we’d just call them mercenaries, because that’s what they are.

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By Paracelsus, February 6, 2008 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

Let’s bash all of them then. The bloated military budget illustrates best of all an agenda run government regardless of party. Bravo! What better example of the rule of elites than the military budget? What better exemplifies Orwell’s 1984? Should living standards rise, stifle it with a bloated military budget.

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By jackpine savage, February 6, 2008 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

Besides her vote supporting land mines and cluster bombs (Obama voted against both measures), she’s well known for her military budget earmarking.

“In the fiscal 2008 omnibus appropriations bill Hillary Clinton received 261 earmarks, more than five times the number of any other presidential candidate. According to Taxpayers for Common Sense, Clinton obtained 360 earmarks worth $2.2 billion from 2002 to 2006. This record establishes her as by far the worst abuser of earmarks among all presidential candidates in both parties.” ~John K. Wilson

“Presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has secured more earmarks in the fiscal 2008 defense authorization bill than any other Democrat except for panel Chairman Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.).

The bill contains about $5.4 billion in earmarks, or projects not requested by the Pentagon. With their slim majority, the Democrats on the panel claimed two-thirds of that sum. Clinton is among their more junior members.

By contrast, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), also a Democratic presidential candidate and Clinton’s rival for the nomination, has only one request in the defense bill.” ~From “The Hill”

By Google we shall know thee…

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By dick, February 6, 2008 at 10:21 am Link to this comment
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The government is controlled by the power elite, who want more war since it is profitable and allows total control of the masses. The next president will be another Bush, with full support of the Congress.

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By Maani, February 6, 2008 at 10:16 am Link to this comment

MMC:

Holy Cow!  I agree with you whole-heartedly on every word here, up until you mention Hillary and Obama.  Because as I noted to TW, neither Hillary NOR Obama has said ONE WORD about the military budget.  So to suggest that Obama would do anything different - especially anything significant - is at best wishful thinking and at worst insupportable Hillary-bashing.

Peace.

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By Maani, February 6, 2008 at 10:14 am Link to this comment

Tony:

I was waiting to see which of the Obama supporters here would make the first comment of this sort.

All I can say is, neither Hillary NOR Obama have said ONE WORD on the military budget.  So to suggest that he is any more likely to do anything about it - particularly anything significant - is at best wishful thinking and at worst insupportable, if tacit, Hillary-bashing.

Peace.

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By Steve Ladd, February 6, 2008 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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Finally,someone is talking about the elephant in the room. Thank you, Robert Scheer!  The most salient fact in your commentary is that our country spends more on its military than all the other countries in the world combined! See this link for what other countries spend: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm

Now, Mr. Scheer, can you keep writing about this issue and help frame a way for the Democratic candidates to talk critically and safely about this in the election?  It should be a major focus, since it’s draining our budget more than any other area of spending.  Military spending uses more than half of all discretionary money in the federal budget. Go with it!

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By minamoto no taira, February 6, 2008 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

“Why can’t I get this picture off my Etch-a-sketch?”

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By GW=MCHammered, February 6, 2008 at 9:27 am Link to this comment
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(satire or perhaps, just the way it should be)

The president yesterday announced plans to end the Red and Blue State divide and integrate American society. “For too long the rich in this great country of ours, have cost-shift the care of the poorest, the most needy among us, onto our struggling middle class. Today that ends. It ends with my new plan called, Just Do-It: Just Drop Off Indigents Today,” he proudly stated.

According to White House spokeswoman, Dana Perino, “The president feels those who have benefited most from society have separated themselves from the responsibilities of society. He asks that all Americans load up their neighborhood indigents and drive them to gated communities not tomorrow, not next week, but today.”

Still, it’s estimated that with over 200,000 homeless military veterans alone, the middle class will need a week to move fallen heroes off their streets and into lavish neighborhoods with manicured grounds and exquisite food scraps.

FamilyWatchdog.com reports 61,318 sex offenders in the state of California alone. The president answered that statistic with, “It’s important our judges and attorneys learn from their mistakes. I’m ordering mom’s and dad’s, in conjunction with local school officials, to transport immediately in their mini-vans and SUVs as many sex offenders as they can to neighborhoods of the juridic. And if they need to use school buses with police escort, well, then so be it.”

The president received standing applause when he announced, “Too early-released drug offenders need the Just Do-It experience too. You along our southern border states will be hauling them into Mexico under armed Border Guard and military escort.”

He continued with, “Worker productivity slowed sharply around the globe last year. This can only be the result of failed global trade policies. Plans for a New World Order are antiquated and economically inverted seriously undermining our strength as a nation and contributing to horrors the world over. This must stop. Today.”

The president outlined his plan for Global Just Do-It. “Either foreign governments will join us and do the hard work of spreading peace, true democracy, AND education or we’ll use our influence to move their indigents into their gated communities too. If you’re not with us, you’re against us,” he ended.

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