By mark cohen, February 15: “Is there a way I can locate my comment… and other comments on this article...”

As an unregistered commenter, you haven’t a chance. This is a “blog” but not a “forum”, MC, sad to say. In other words, for regular commenters, it is a frustrating incompetent mess.

They are happy to run it that way because they have no respect for us, treat us as idiots, and don’t appreciate our contributions anyway, uhh. Supposedly its a “news” blog and not a “discussion” forum.

The reason for all that is because it was started by a supposedly trendy California professor of journalism but the only people he is interested in have $$MONEY or lots of “summa cum laude” accolades at the very least. He also hates the wives of former presidents. Fuck them all!

Mossada..

You are also very astute...and insightful in this analysis of lilmamzer. She’s been posting this crap for well over a year, and appears periodically to new audiences, so I suspect there is more than one of her.

But, it’s always the same old stuff. She doesn’t get it though, even after all of this time, that we DO see through her. If not IMMEDIATELY, than it doesn’t take long. A few comments will do it.

One of the constant repetitions is that the Arabs want to DESTROY Israel. It’s such a farce, because for one thing, it’s never been a literal intention of Arabs or Palestinians to physically DESTROY Israel. Still, the neurotic Zionist loves to use that, as has
the good dr. rivka.

And, yes..Patrick Henry is right on the mark here, specifically on the suicide bombings, though admittedly those operations on the part of the Palestinians have become exceedingly rare. Still, when a people have NO access to self-determination, and NO other means by which to fight back or gain even the slightest measure of political authority over themselves, then yep...political violence in the form of suicide bombings is a natural outcome.

The terror that the Israelis direct toward the Palestinians is more horrific than I think I could even have imagined, if I’d not seen it myself, even sometimes from a distance, but over an extended period of time. It’s otherwise too much to fathom. It shocks the imagination of a civilized conscience. Because, it’s not ONLY what we finally manage to read about in our own media...it’s far, far worse.

So many imprisoned, in Gaza and the West Bank. And so much torture too. The torture practiced by the US that is finally coming to the surface/attention of the US public...HERE, has been ROUTINE for the Israelis to practice on the Palestinians for decades.

But, we don’t even hear of that.

Anyway..lilmamzer isn’t going to wake up. There’s no doubt that lilmamzer knows exactly what she’s doing, and her perfidy will continue.

She likes getting a rise out of the people on this blog. It’s like a sickness that I can’t put a name to. We need a forensic psychiatrist for that. Someone well versed in the worst of the pathologies of the mind.

Good doctor, You fail to mention the terror the Israelis use against innocent Palistinians in the form of errantly aimed munitions from U.S. supplied platforms, cutting power, fuel, medicines against an imprisoned populace.

What grates my ass is as an American citizen I am supporting it, albeit against my wishes.

When all a person has left is their life to protest and avenge the death of family, friends and community, then you have the suicide bomber. 

Israel only has itself to blame for this insurgency and the deaths of its citizendry by its own heavy handed tactics.

By Dr.Rivka Shpak Lissak, February 9: “The Palestinians were never Israeli Citizens, and the issue is not human rights. Israel and the Palestinans represent 2 nationalities with claim on the same territory...”

How typically precious of the Jewish/Zionist conspirators to mask their own quest for expansionism, hegemony and parasitic control of nations such as the USA by proclaiming that the oppression of Palestinians in their own land by a pack of European invaders is somehow “not a human rights issue: its a clash”, uhh.

Anyone who knows a Jew must have guilt in order for them to weave their evil spell of influence over others. Make not a wrong assumption that they are admirable “humanists”. They are not - and they regard all others as inferior and themselves as “the chosen ones”. They are only manipulating you through your sympathies and inherited guilt fantasies.

The most foolish thing the West ever did was to accept Christianity as a derivative of a Judeo religion. Of course, the illusion that god was then somehow “over there” in a fabled “holy land” made it alright for the kings and priests in Europe to continue their own malicious influences and self-aggrandizements unfettered.

But inevitably, they became caught in their own cleft stick. Better also to let Israel become caught in the results of its own machinations instead of helping it on a path to an otherwise inevitable nuclear war. The USA and Russia and China can play games with each other interminably but the Jews are playing for keeps. They know what will happen WHEN they eventually lose.

Israel established an apartheid regime because, like the white South African Dutch and English “settler society”, they were willing to pay the price of being seen to abuse the rights of others in their own land in order to be able to remain there. That is, they were never really welcome once their self-seeking land-grabbing intentions became known - and they didn’t care.

Is this you lilmamzer?

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/950374.html

Excellent points, and hardly slanted. These historical truths, minus the ideological zealotry of the lil mamzers of the world, (if only we could just be off with their heads) are lost in the rhetoric. Too bad more folks don’t study their history. It explains so much…

Thanks Zeitgeist…

<Time may stand still for you, “zeitgeist”>

As they say, “the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Peace!

By PatrickHenry, February 6

Theocracy.

What a scholarly and absolutley brilliant analysis.
Please share more of your most learned wisdom with us.

Those 12 “tribes” have been warring with each other and their neighbors for over 5000 years of treachery, deceit and luck, which the jewish inspired and written bible accredits to god.

Theocracy.

Israel is a semitic nation, ethnically the same as the surrounding countries & Palistine. Judaism (being jewish) is a religious leap of faith from being a semite.  I laugh when jews describe themselves as being atheists.

What a scholar you are.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

It only exists as long as its U.S. Military Aid flows. I speak for many who would like to that Military Aid stopped and any financial outlays and government contracts terminated.

Israel is a semitic nation, ethnically the same as the surrounding countries & Palistine. Judaism (being jewish) is a religious leap of faith from being a semite.  I laugh when jews describe themselves as being atheists. 

In a time of deficit spending we Americans should be keeping this money at home.

Israel’s women will regret the invasion of southern Lebanon, if only for the cancers in their breasts from the uranium infused bombs thrown at the Lebanonese. I predict Israel will collapse from within. They are their own worst enemies. Hamas doesn’t have to do a thing.

blah blah blah

can’t you come with any new bigoted (and demonstrably false) talking points?
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How dare these people lob anemic rockets over their ghetto walls, as if they had a right to protest their enslavement?

How dare the Jews resist the openly stated Hamas policy (as enshrined in its Charter) to destroy the sovereign homeland of the Jewish nation and slaughter its inhabitants? (that’s genocide by any definition, “CHAMISA")

blah blah blah

can’t you come with any new bigoted (and demonstrably false) talking points?
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How dare these people lob anemic rockets over their ghetto walls, as if they had a right to protest their enslavement?

How dare the Jews resist the openly stated Hamas policy (as enshrined in its Charter) to destroy the sovereign homeland of the Jewish nation and slaughter its inhabitants? (that’s genocide by any definition, “CHAMISA")

Regardless of your slanted take on history, the State of Israel is a reality, and is a thriving and sovereign multi-ethnic democracy whose citizens have as much right to resist the imperialistic and genocidal Arab Muslim aggression as would any nation beset by similar enemies.

Time may stand still for you, “zeitgeist”, but it doesn’t for the Jewsih nation in its own national homeland - a living symbol of self-determination against existential threats no other nation on the planet has to suffer from at the present time.

chamisa and Paracelsus, to fully understand the psychology of the forces at play here, one must go back and test the preponderance of prevailing winds which propelled and breath life into the Balfour Declaration. Much of the impetus for Zionism rode on the back of delirious Christian sympathies both in England and America, seeking the prophetic return of their mythologized, dying god character of Constantine’s plagiarized amalgamation, who thought it necessary to blast a chunk of dirt out of Palestine for this to occur; this was the real underlying thrust and motive.

Once this is understood, it becomes clear that Israel is Israel in name only, but in reality it wears the xenophobic Neo-Roman coat of Constantine; the Atonist; Sol In Victus.

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

US Representative Garrett proposes resolution to condemn Kassam attacks - Feb 6, 2008

Washington, DC - US Representative Scott Garrett (R- NJ) proposed a resolution Wednesday, condemning the ongoing Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli civilian communities.

“Since January 1st of this year, terrorists have fired more than 420 rockets and mortar shells at Israeli communities like Sderot and Ashkelon. Residents of these areas have suffered egregious damage and casualties. The quality of life of the Israeli people has dramatically decreased in these targeted areas. It is critical that Congress work to help the peace-loving people of Israel and the Palestinian territories end these aggressive actions,” Garrett said.

In a statement, Garrett went on to say that he would “continue to fight” to ensure that terrorist organizations like Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are held responsible for launching such attacks, and further that countries like Iran and Syria that support these terrorist are held accountable too.

“The United States and the global community should embrace Palestinians who reject all forms of terrorism and who desire to live in peace,” he said.
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“The United States and the global community should embrace Palestinians who reject all forms of terrorism and who desire to live in peace,” he said.

Buehler? Buehler? Buehler?

http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/ch04.htm

The Slaughter at Dueima

If the Deir Yasin massacre was carried out by the “rightist” Revisionist Zionist underground organizations, IZL and Lehi, like massacres occurred on a similar scale throughout the country. The massacre at Dueima in 1948 was perpetrated by the official Labor Zionist Israeli army, the Israel Defense Forces (Tzeva Haganah le-Israel or ZAHAL). The account of the massacre, as described by a soldier who participated in the horror, was published in Davar, the official Hebrew daily newspaper of the Labor-Zionist-run Histadrut General Federation of Workers:

... They killed between eighty to one hundred Arab men, women and children. To kill the children they [soldiers] fractured their heads with sticks. There was not one home without corpses. The men and women of the villages were pushed into houses without food or water. Then the saboteurs came to dynamite them.

One commander ordered a soldier to bring two women into a building he was about to blow up ... Another soldier prided himself upon having raped an Arab woman before shooting her to death. Another Arab woman with her newborn baby was made to clean the place for a couple of days, and then they shot her and the baby. Educated and well-mannered commanders who were considered “good guys” ... became base murderers, and this not in the storm of battle, but as a method of expulsion and extermination. The fewer the Arabs who remain, the better.

Face it Howard, Israel is a stinky ass country that lives off of the banditry and murder of the previous inhabitants. This just one more reason for every American to quit paying his taxes, for such an action would make it less possible to subsidize the murderuous and genocidal Israeli state.

http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/ch04.htm

The Butchery Begins: Deir Yasin

The process was one of sustained slaughter as village after village was wiped out. The killing was intended to cause people to flee for their lives.

The commander of the Haganah, Zvi Ankori, described what happened: “I saw cut off genitalia and women’s crushed stomachs ... It was direct murder.” [52]

Menachem Begin gloated over the impact throughout Palestine of the Nazi-like operations he commanded at Deir Yasin. Lehi and IZL Commandos stormed the village of Deir Yasin on April 9, 1948, slaughtering 254 men, women and children.

A legend of terror spread amongst Arabs who were seized with panic at the mention of our Irgun soldiers. It was worth half a dozen battalions to the forces of Israel. Arabs throughout the country ... were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. This mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede. Of the 800,000 Arabs who lived on the present territory of the state of Israel, only some 165,000 are still there. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated. [53

http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/ch05.htm

It is appropriate to review the pervasiveness of this murderous policy and its consequences. In the territory which came under Israeli occupation after Partition there were approximately 950,000 Palestinian Arabs. They inhabited nearly 500 villages and all the major cities, which included Tiberias, Safed, Nazareth, Shafa Amr, Acre, Haifa, Jaffa, Lydda, Ramle, Jerusalem, Majdal (Ashqelon), Isdud (Ashdod) and Beersheba.

After less than six months only 138,000 people remained. (Figures vary from 130,000 to 165,000.)The great majority of Palestinians were killed, forcibly expelled or fled in panic before slaughtering bands of Israeli army units.

Having thus eliminated most of the Palestinian inhabitants from the land of Palestine, the Israeli government undertook the systematic destruction of their homes and possessions. Nearly 400 villages and towns were razed to the ground during 1948 and 1949. More followed in the 1950s.

You mistyped, I’m sure.  No population was driven away under false pretensions.  The peoples (Pal’s}could have had a state (never had one before) right next to Israel in 1948 when the U.N. to solve the problem of competing claims, set up one land for Israel and one for the Pal’s.  The latter did not want theirs.  Still don’t so long as Israel is going to exist in the neighborhood..  22 Arab states and zillions of acreage and they did not—nor even yet want the 23rd.  Waged war against Israel for the last 60 years since.  Shot themselves in the foot so to speak.
Israel certainly has a right to exist. By any standard of judgment.  What occupied land?  Left Lebanon, Gaza, and with security will leave the West bank. Note rockets and enmity surround them from the lands where they left. Not hard to see Israel not wanting to give up more. Israel is democratic state.  Would you rather make it one like Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Afghansistan, with daily bombings etc, if you made ONE State. Jeez, even India separated their population few years ago into India and Pakistan. Israel is not going to commit national suicide.
And talking about refugees, what about the 800,00 Jews who were thrown out of Arab lands in ‘48 ?  All were absorbed by Israel.  Wowzer, neither Egypt or Jordan, or Syria offers to help the Pals. Or really cares. Only Israel, who is really their only potential friend, note potential, wants them to have a peaceful state next to them.
Just like they were offerd 60 years ago.  Hope the Hamas leaders wake up. Start a country which doesn’t export just suicide bombers.  Millions upon millions of dollars will be thrown at them and to them if they would but get their act together.

* By Howard, February 5 <The Treaty of Versailles had nothing to do with Zionism. Wishful thinking.  Fairy tale.>

Howard, I beg your pardon! The ‘Treaty of Versailles’ was set up under the Auspices of ‘The Royal Institute for International Affairs’ a Rothschild consortium, whose American counterpart is ‘The Counsel on Foreign Relations’.

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

I am no apologist for atrocities perpetrated by any maniacal group or individual whose baser animal ego has commandeered its senses, weather they appear in the form of Stalin, Mussolini, Nero, Hitler or Bush; nor do I seek conspiracy under every rock; nor are my questions meant to incite those same animal instincts resident in each and every one of us, who merely seek cause for excuse to spill more blood.

Having said that, who is it that plays these violin strings, strung over the shells of the ‘useful idiot’; why is it that the House of Rothschild financed both the Bolshevik revolution; with similar large contributions, paving the way towards the foundation of Zionist Israel? On the surface, the two systems would seem to be a contradiction in terms. We have witnessed these historic tactics many times before, where a cabal of multi-national financiers, feed both sides of a conflict while they sit in the middle, beyond scrutiny and reproach. Should we not be allowed to question their motives, or explain their intent?

Hitler may have correctly focused onto this financial cabal, but any lofty aspirations he may have held, failed in the clutches of his base ego, whose animal instinct, morphed into a xenophobic hatred; sailing his ship and crew onto the rocks.

At one time, we were all innocent babies in the mother’s arms, but prevailing winds and the shadows of this realm into which we are born, have shipwrecked many unwary travelers, spooked or seduced by the shadows, we become blind to the rocks ahead.

I was born in Augsburg Germany, shortly in the aftermath of this cauldron, within which the depravity of unleashed animal instincts, from all sides, was beginning to cool to a simmer. Had not my grandmother, on my mother’s side, been forced to flee the 1944 Bolshevik invasion of Latvia, or my father not fallen prey into joining Latvia’s German liberating forces to repel the Bolshevik onslaught, perhaps I too would be Latvian, but I am a sojourner seeking answers, living in America, witnessing the same fearful winds stirring another generation of unwary souls.

The crescendo in heights this animal carnage managed to reach must be framed within the context of forces which permeated the atmosphere of that era, lest we make the same mistake. During the 1st Bolshevik occupation of Latvia, 1939, millions disappeared as enemies of the state; dispatched with either a bullet to the head, or dislodged from their homes; shuttled off to labor camps to ends of the earth. A large fraction of the Latvian population hailed the 1941 German arrival as liberators. Perhaps the enormity of Bolshevik atrocities, uncovered by the incoming Germans, did not justify their own behavior, but it did, nevertheless, trip the circuits in the animal, resulting in a barbarous blood-letting of revenge. Everyone and everything grew suspect with complicity, to its narrow focus; swept away in the fury of blind madness. I know this, because it is what I found while searching for my mother’s father who disappeared in the midst of these bloody, gnashing teeth and several of my mother’s bothers who vanished within the labor camps of our, then, German host and refuge.

We should not rally hideous past atrocities, invoking animal sympathies; lavishing the animal with reason to thump its chest in prideful hatred, eventually, giving cause célèbre motive to sling more missiles and bullets at the, too often manufactured, opponent; staining the earth with more innocent blood.

Staying within the context of WWII, if we are to muster sentiment around whose pile of carnage should lavish the most esteem, why do we not toast the 50 million souls, good old Uncle Joe Stalin liberated in the pride of his bloody grip, or the instant gratification brought on by the flash of misguided science, over the population centers of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I don’t need to mention the 6 million dead Jews, for they have been celebrated too much already; there is plenty for everyone here to share!

“The Treaty of Versailles had nothing to do with Zionism. Wishful thinking.  Fairy tale.”

That’s a huge whopper. What audacidty!

This treaty was arranged after WWI by the victors with Germany present at the conference to initiate peaceful settlement. Reparations were imposed on Germany which had started the war. They were easily paid back somewhat by Germany, but it was never told to the German people they lost the war; hence they seized and believed the Nazi’s credo that Germany was stabbed in the back. Zillions of printed money was printed by the German gov’t, inflation resulted because of that and other reasons and while a depression was world wide it was very difficult in Germany. But France, Belgium, and England did not rape or weaken Germany as a result of the war.
Nazi’s misled their citizenry, rearmed in the ‘30’s and WWII followed. Needed more living room, etc. You knows the story.
The Treaty of Versailles had nothing to do with Zionism. Wishful thinking.  Fairy tale.

^ Good for you....keep posting.  Howard is.....missinformed and lacking in critical thinking while blinded by reality.

Quote:

“Why are they so quick to demand that academics who suggest that Jews wield considerable political influence be banned from speaking, or, better yet, fired? Why so ready to dismiss criticism of Israel from Desmond Tutu or Jimmy Carter as anti-Semitic garbage? Why so swift to call meetings, launch petitions, take to the streets, bombard their congressmen, demand embargoes, sanctions, pre-emptive strikes, targeted bombings, invasions—whatever it takes to destroy any perceived menace to Jews or the state of Israel, even if it later turns out the threat was a fabrication of someone’s inflamed imagination?”

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All criticism, even if it is valid and fair, is crushed because having it in circulation is a public relations nightmare for Israel. After all, it receives $3 billion in economic and military grants annually from the United States alone. Half a century into its existence, Israel is still not economically self-sufficient, and must rely on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy.

Yet, one curious stipulation in connection to the generosity it receives each year, is that none of the U.S. assistance it receives, housing loan guarantees, refugee resettlement grants, or other forms of aid, can be used by Israel in the occupied territories, despite its clear obligations as an occupier. Of the largesse afforded it, the Palestinians receive nothing. The official justification for this policy is that “the United States does not want to foster the appearance of endorsing Israel’s annexation of the territories without negotiations.”

Right.

Mr. Lando asks, “But never again what? Never again massacres of Jews as the world looks on? Or never again should we Jews, who suffered so horrifically in the Holocaust, never again should we stand silent as innocents are slaughtered or driven from their homes by ethnic cleansing, or entire populations are punished for the actions of a few.”

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It is time to stand up and take steps to ensure that neither happens again. As history has shown us, we have an ethical and moral obligation to speak out, before tragedy compounds further tragedy. To remain silent is not an option.

My understanding of the real time line is that Paul of Tarsus died in A.D. 67, Constantine reigned from from 306 to 312. So it took some 250 years for what we know as Christianity to go from one zealot to a persecuted sect being thrown to the lions, to finally becoming the Roman state religion. The rest, as we say, is history.

If this story of the Nazarenes about Paul is true, it might explain why the twisted bastard hated Jews and why anti-Semitism was always entwined with the Pauline Christian dogma.

No offense to any Christians out there.

I am definitely going to read Osman’s “The House of the Messiah”. I love this alternate history stuff. Who knows if any of these theories is true for sure, but it opens the mind to consider the alternate possibilities.

I know a Sephardic Jewish child with terrible ringworm. Should I ask his mother to send him to Israel for “treatment”?

A Palestinian carried out the first suicide bombing in Israel in a year on Monday, killing a woman and wounding 11 others in Dimona’s shopping center.  Police said they prevented a second blast by shooting dead an accomplice before he could detonate an explosives belt.  Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed the attack along with the Popular Front for the Liberation of palestine.  young Fatah supporters in Gaza handed out flowers and candy to passing cars to celebrate.  (Reuters/Washington Post)

Let them do it without U.S. AID, i.e. taxpayers dollars.

There are enough rich jews in the U.S. who could makeup the shortfall of the money Uncle Sam shakes me down for each week.

Israel is a self serving entity which is certainly no ally of ours on a quid pro quo basis.  They have knowingly attacked flagged U.S. interests on more than one occaision and have been caught spying on us many more times.

The Zionists admired the strategy of the Americans in getting the Indians off their land, so they decided to replicate the same strategy.

As the British Mandate, the Palestinians had no say on their governance. The Mandate allowed many waves of migration of Jews into the Mandated land. In a normal country, the citizens would have been able to convince their government to restrict immigration. Immigration was on an open throttle for 20 years.

If it had not been for the Great War, Turkey would have still retained control over Trans-Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Arabia and Iraq. This was galling to the British, because they needed to secure oil in this area. World War I was “lucky” for them.

As Balfour Declaration, this was initially anounced to Lord Walter Rothschild, leader of the British Zionist movement.

Ralph Schoenmann had referred to the The Peal Report, made after huge revolt of Palestinians in 1936.

The Peel Report

A Royal Commission was established in 1937, under the direction of Lord Peel, to determine the causes of the 1936 revolt. The Peel Commission concluded that the two primary factors were Palestinian desire for national independence and Palestinian fear of the establishment of a Zionist colony on their land. The Peel Report analyzed a series of other factors with uncommon candor. These were:

1. The spread of the Arab nationalist spirit outside Palestine
2. Increasing Jewish immigration after 1933
3. The ability of the Zionists to dominate public opinion in Britain because of the tacit support of the government
4. Lack of Arab confidence in the good intentions of the British government
5. Palestinian fear of continued land purchases by Jews from absentee feudal landowners who sold off their landholdings and evicted the Palestinian peasants who had worked the land
6. The evasiveness of the Mandatory government about its intentions regarding Palestinian sovereignty.

The national movement consisted of the urban bourgeoisie, feudal landowners, religious leaders and representatives of peasants and workers.

Its demands were:

1. An immediate stop to Zionist immigration
2. Cessation and prohibition of the transfer of the ownership of Arab lands to Zionist colonists
3. The establishment of a democratic government in which Palestinians would have the controlling voice.

http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/ch03.htm

The British had clearly conspired with the Zoinists to set up racist, tyrannical, and fascist government in Palestine.

The jews special relationship with blacks.

http://www.blacksandjews.com/wash.post.html

Much unlike the tripe you post.

By Paracelsus, February 4 at 12:24 pm #
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Rev. King wasn’t perfect.

Rev. King knew exactly what he was saying and why: he, unlike you Paracelsus, wouldn’t countenance the indefensible bigotry of those who deny the right of Jews to self-determination in their homeland of Israel.

Even Barack Obama understands this.

King responded, “When people criticize Zionists they mean Jews, you are talking anti-Semitism.”

Rev. King wasn’t perfect. As to John Lewis, he thinks it unChristian to impeach Bush and Cheney. He said that we should have a forgiving attitude toward those scum wads.

Dawn - you defame the memory of Dr. King, either intentionally or unintentionally - by your slanted pro-terror post.
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“I have a dream” for peace in the Middle East:
King’s Special Bond with Israel”
by Representative John Lewis (D) - GA
January 21, 2002 (San Francisco Chronicle)

THE REV. MARTIN Luther King Jr. understood the meaning of discrimination and oppression. He sought ways to achieve liberation and peace, and he thus understood that a special relationship exists between African Americans and American Jews.

This message was true in his time and is true today.

He knew that both peoples were uprooted involuntarily from their homelands. He knew that both peoples were shaped by the tragic experience of slavery. He knew that both peoples were forced to live in ghettoes, victims of segregation.He knew that both peoples were subject to laws passed with the particular intent of oppressing them simply because they were Jewish or black. He knew that both peoples have been subjected to oppression and genocide on a level unprecedented in history.

King understood how important it is not to stand by in the face of injustice. He understood the cry, “Let my people go.”

Long before the plight of the Jews in the Soviet Union was on the front pages, he raised his voice. “I cannot stand idly by, even though I happen to live in the United States and even though I happen to be an American Negro and not be concerned about what happens to the Jews in Soviet Russia. For what happens to them happens to me and you, and we must be concerned.”

During his lifetime King witnessed the birth of Israel and the continuing struggle to build a nation. He consistently reiterated his stand on the Israel — Arab conflict, stating “Israel’s right to exist as a state in security is uncontestable.” It was no accident that King emphasized “security” in his statements on the Middle East,

On March 25, 1968, less than two weeks before his tragic death, he spoke out with clarity and directness stating, “peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality.”

During the recent U.N. Conference on Racism held in Durban, South Africa, we were all shocked by the attacks on Jews, Israel and Zionism. The United States of America stood up against these vicious attacks.

Once again, the words of King ran through my memory, “I solemnly pledge to do my utmost to uphold the fair name of the Jews — because bigotry in any form is an affront to us all.”

During an appearance at Harvard University shortly before his death, a student stood up and asked King to address himself to the issue of Zionism. The question was clearly hostile. King responded, “When people criticize Zionists they mean Jews, you are talking anti-Semitism.”

King taught us many lessons. As turbulence continues to grip the Middle East, his words should continue to serve as our guide. I am convinced that were he alive today he would speak clearly calling for an end to the violence between Israelis and Arabs.

He would call upon his fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner, Yasser Arafat, to fulfill the dream of peace and do all that is within his power to stop the violence.

He would urge continuing negotiations to reduce tensions and bring about the first steps toward genuine peace.

King had a dream of an “oasis of brotherhood and democracy” in the Middle East.

As we celebrate his life and legacy, let us work for the day when Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims, will be able to sit in peace “under his vine and fig tree and none shall make him afraid.”

As I contemplate what has taken place in Palestine since the treaty has been signed in 1918,I have reached the following conclusions:

You have posted incoherent nonsense.

Cyrena,

You and Louise are correct about fear, ignorance, and indifference.  I will add a personal observation from my years of living in Austria and Bavaria: there was something deeper involved, and it exists still today.

The Germans are a proud people, and realistically, the division of the German speaking people happened backwards.  The protestant north should be it’s own little country; Bavaria and Austria should be the big country.

You might be surprised to know that in quaint little tourist towns like Salzburg, one need not look very far to still see “Auslander Raus” spray painted on walls.  Frankly, i was shocked at how many people, young and old, were overtly sympathetic to neo-Nazism.  I even stumbled across a bookmark on my girlfriend’s (at the time) computer to a glowing history of Nazi Germany and a call to restoration.  She claimed that it was her former boyfriend...whew, that was comforting.

The number and ferocity of anit-Semitic rants that i heard startled me.  A great deal of anti-Americanism stemmed from the fact that many people were/are convinced that America is run by “die Jude.” I came away with a very clear impression that were Hitler to run for office (undisguised) in Bavaria and Austria, he might not win...but he would gather a substantial number of votes.

And one of the most chilling events of my life was walking through the showers at Dachau (open, because they were not ready for use before liberation) with a group of Bundeswehr troops.  I was chilled to the bone, they were smiling, laughing, and joking.  In the open display at the crematorium, they pointed approvingly at the noose strung from the rafters to finish victims who weren’t quite dead.

This does not mean that all Germans/Austrians are evil people.  Only that many of them were not misled in the least.  Many were, and are, supportive of the Nazi regime.

Glad YOU found this treaty. Get you started on reading History.  Well known fact that the Treaty was overly kind to Germany.  Much too kind. Resulted in Nazis seizing on it to mislead the Germans to fixate on during the next 20 years and falsely believe the sure cure of fixing things by following them. Naziism, if you continue to read about it ranks higher than the other items you mention, in pure evilness. Destroyed millions of lives in Europe, Russia and America.

Rabbi Weiss rips into Zionism...On Nov. 27, 2007, in Annapolis, MD, Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, a spokesman for the Neturei Karta International, ripped into Zionism. He blasted the Zionists for its supposed “fearmongering.” He also accused the Zionists of “beating” Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem. His remarks were made outside the U.S. Naval Academy, on Randall Street, near Gate I, close to the waterfront, in this port city. A Middle East “Peace” conference was being held inside the Naval Academy.
For background on Neturei Karta International, see: http://www.nkusa.org/ and on the “Middle East Peace Conference,” check out this analysis:
http://www.counterpunch.org/christiso… (less)

Click on link/URL to see & hear how Rabbi Weiss rips into ZIONISM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

“The Beloved Community is a World of Peace with Justice.”—Martin Luther King, Jr.

There will be no peace until there is justice in Palestine. There are Arab people who are in possession of deeds to the land that the Isreali people keep usurping and occupying. Even a kindergarten child can understand that this is not fair. There has been a tremendous travesty of justice in this part of the world. It would not be in anyone’s best interest to just sign a “peace treaty” and agree to get over it. It will fester and boil underneath even if there are enough sellouts to sign such a treaty (which I doubt there are). The land must be returned to it’s rightful owners. Bulldozers and tanks cannot be allowed to establish eminent domain.

Gaza is the new Warsaw ghetto. Why isn’t that obvious to AIPAC, Bush, Obama? Only Dennis Kucinich toured the destruction of Lebanon. He has received the full media blackout treatment to make sure that the American people could not hear his message of peace. So now we are left with no real progressive democrats in the race. We are left with a bunch of hawks and a hawk on steroids (McCain). None of these people have a vision of peace. They are interested in keeping the war machine humming and our weapons manufacturers in business.

What if there existed one state (call it whatever you want) where the Isrealis and the Palestinians could live side by side with Jerusalem as its capital and the taxes and resources would be used for the benefit of all within its borders regardless of race or religion? Why should there be a sovereign state dedicated to a religious order? It doesn’t seem to be working. There are Christians and Arabs and Jews who love this “Holy Land” and want access to it. Why not? Why make it a land of military might and perpetual paranoia? Mr. Lando is correct. There is a distinct media blackout on any controversial discussion of the fate of Isreal. There is one formal stand that is put forward as if this is the only way to look at it. I think we are missing the kindergarten point of view. It isn’t fair. Share the land, share the resources. Open the borders. The only thing people should be asked to “get over” is their religion. That should be personal, not a deciding factor for whether you live or die. Right now Arab children are dying because they are not Jewish. They are collateral damage in Isreal’s push to eliminate Hamas. Why is Isreal given a pass on this atrocity? The U.S. ranks 53rd in the world for “access to a free press”. At least Truthdig offers a forum for discussion.

Some more positive items from Israel.

12. Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin — 109 per 10,000 people — as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed.

13.  In proportion to