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The Lessons of Violence

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Posted on Jan 21, 2008
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Palestinians mourn over the body of Hussam Zahar, 24, son of Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar, during his funeral in Gaza City. Hussam Zahar was killed Jan. 15 in an Israeli strike on Gaza.

By Chris Hedges

The Gaza Strip is rapidly becoming one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the world. Israel has cordoned off the entire area, home to some 1.4 million Palestinians, blocking commercial goods, food, fuel and even humanitarian aid. At least 36 people have been killed in Israeli strikes since Tuesday and many more wounded. Hamas, which took control of Gaza in June, has launched about 200 rockets into southern Israel in the same period in retaliation, injuring more than 10 people. Israel announced the draconian closure and collective punishment Thursday in order to halt the rocket attacks, begun on Tuesday, when 18 Palestinians, including the son of a Hamas leader, were killed by Israeli forces.

This is not another typical spat between Israelis and Palestinians. This is the final, collective strangulation of the Palestinians in Gaza. The decision to block shipments of food by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency means that two-thirds of the Palestinians who rely on relief aid will no longer be able to eat when U.N. stockpiles in Gaza run out. Reports from inside Gaza speak of gasoline stations out of fuel, hospitals that lack basic medicine and a shortage of clean water. Whole neighborhoods were plunged into darkness when Israel cut off its supply of fuel to Gaza’s only power plant. The level of malnutrition in Gaza is now equal to that in the poorest sub-Saharan nations.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert uses words like war to describe the fight to subdue and control Gaza. But it is not war. The Palestinians have little more than old pipes fashioned into primitive rocket launchers, AK-47s and human bombs with which to counter the assault by one of the best-equipped militaries in the world. Palestinian resistance is largely symbolic. The rocket attacks are paltry, especially when pitted against Israeli jet fighters, attack helicopters, unmanned drones and the mechanized units that make regular incursions into Gaza. A total of 12 Israelis have been killed over the past six years in rocket attacks. Suicide bombings, which once rocked Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, have diminished, and the last one inside Israel that was claimed by Hamas took place in 2005. Since the current uprising began in September 2000, 1,033 Israelis and 4,437 Palestinians have died in the violence, according to the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem. B’Tselem noted in a December 2007 report that the dead included 119 Israeli children and 971 Palestinian children.

The failure on the part of Israel to grasp that this kind of brutal force is deeply counterproductive is perhaps understandable given the demonization of Arabs, and especially Palestinians, in Israeli society. The failure of Washington to intervene—especially after President Bush’s hollow words about peace days before the new fighting began—is baffling. Collective abuse is the most potent recruiting tool in the hands of radicals, as we saw after the indiscriminate Israeli bombing of Lebanon and the American occupation of Iraq. The death of innocents and collective humiliation are used to justify callous acts of indiscriminate violence and revenge. It is how our own radicals, in the wake of 9/11, lured us into the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. 

Israel has been attempting to isolate and punish Gaza since June when Hamas took control after days of street fighting against its political rival Fatah. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, dissolved the unity government. His party, ousted from Gaza, has been displaced to the Israeli-controlled West Bank. The isolation of Hamas has been accompanied by a delicate dance between Israel and Fatah. Israel hopes to turn Fatah into a Vichy-style government to administer the Palestinian territories on its behalf, a move that has sapped support for Fatah among Palestinians and across the Arab world. Hamas’ stature rises with each act of resistance.

I knew the Hamas leader Dr. Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, who was assassinated by Israel in April of 2004. Rantissi took over Hamas after its founder, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, was assassinated by the Israelis in March of that year. Rantissi was born in what is now Israel and driven from his home in 1948 during the war that established the Jewish state. He, along with more than 700,000 other Palestinian refugees, grew up in squalid camps. As a small boy he watched the Israeli army enter and occupy the camp of Khan Younis in 1956 when Israel invaded Gaza. The Israeli soldiers lined up dozens of men and boys, including some of Rantissi’s relatives, and executed them. The memory of the executions marked his life. It fed his lifelong refusal to trust Israel and stoked the rage and collective humiliation that drove him into the arms of the Muslim Brotherhood and later Hamas. He was not alone. Several of those who founded the most militant Palestinian organizations witnessed the executions in Gaza carried out by Israel in 1956 that left hundreds dead. 

Rantissi was a militant. But he was also brilliant. He studied pediatric medicine and genetics at Egypt’s Alexandria University and graduated first in his class. He was articulate and well read and never used in my presence the crude, racist taunts attributed to him by his Israeli enemies. He reminded me that Hamas did not target Israeli civilians until Feb. 25, 1994, when Dr. Baruch Goldstein, dressed in his Israeli army uniform, entered a room in the Cave of the Patriarchs, which served as a mosque, and opened fire on Palestinian worshipers.  Goldstein killed 29 unarmed people and wounded 150. Goldstein was rushed by the survivors and beaten to death.

“When Israel stops killing Palestinian civilians we will stop killing Israeli civilians,” he told me. “Look at the numbers. It is we who suffer most. But it is only by striking back, by making Israel feel what we feel, that we will have any hope of protecting our people.”

The drive to remove Hamas from power will not be accomplished by force. Force and collective punishment create more Rantissis. They create more outrage, more generations of embittered young men and women who will dedicate their lives to avenging the humiliation, perhaps years later, they endured and witnessed as children. The assault on Gaza, far from shortening the clash between the Israelis and Palestinians, ensures that it will continue for generations. If Israel keeps up this attempt to physically subdue Gaza we will see Hamas-directed suicide bombings begin again. This is what resistance groups that do not have tanks, jets, heavy artillery and attack helicopters do when they want to fight back and create maximum terror. Israeli hawks such as Ephraim Halevy (a former head of Mossad), Giora Eiland (who was national security adviser to Ariel Sharon) and Shaul Mofaz (a former defense minister) are all calling for some form of dialogue with Hamas. They get it. But without American pressure Prime Minister Olmert will not bend.

Israel, despite its airstrikes and bloody incursions, has been unable to halt the rocket fire from Gaza or free Cpl. Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier captured in the summer of 2006. Continued collective abuse and starvation will not break Hamas, which was formed, in large part, in response to Israel’s misguided policies and mounting repression. There will, in fact, never be Israeli-Palestinian stability or a viable peace accord now without Hamas’ agreement. And the refusal of the Bush administration to intercede, to move Israel toward the only solution that can assure mutual stability, is tragic not only for the Palestinians but ultimately Israel.

And so it goes on. The cycle of violence that began decades ago, that turned a young Palestinian refugee with promise and talent into a militant and finally a martyr, is turning small boys today into new versions of what went before them. Olmert, Bush’s vaunted partner for peace, has vowed to strike at Palestinian militants “without compromise, without concessions and without mercy,” proof that he and the rest of his government have learned nothing. It is also proof that we, as the only country with the power to intervene, have become accessories to murder.

Chris Hedges, the former Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times and author most recently of “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America,” can be found every other Monday on Truthdig.

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By hetzer, January 27 at 7:25 am #
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Re: I am anti-semetic, anti-muslim, anti-Christian, anti-American,

and demoralizations that are necessary to victimize.  Genetically speaking, the whole human race is a terrible mistake.  Every one of its strengths has turned into a weakness, especially when it is combined wI have learned through the years to harbor a black hatred for all human groupings, races, creeds and classes.  Above all I am anti - Crook, Sucker, and Lazy Coward.  Thanks Chalmers for adding something beyond a crooked brain fart.  There are no morally superior people - just moralizers.  Victims incite the fears, hatreds ith wealth and power and delusions of specialness.  Everything of beauty from Shakespeare to the Koran has turned into a weapon or a commodity.  HUMANS WILL NOT BE MISSED WHETHER THEY ARE AMERICANS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

Israeli crooks have been using us as a big stupid brother for protection, and U.S. criminals used Israel to keep things off balance in the middle east.
The Christian and Jewish suckers have defended this arrangement, while the lazy cowards have kept their thumbs in their mouth.  HELLO....HELLO....THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE HUMAN RAP SHEET.

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 27 at 3:55 am #
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By karim29007, January 27: “...a nation whom put their trust in the hand of pure sickening, sadistic, characters and down right massively organized criminals..... hegemony in the Middle East—a hegemony achieved with the traditional cold war recipe of feints, force, clientism and covert action...

The “Z” factor - The host and the parasite

Curfews, checkpoints, armoured bulldozers, public humiliations, home destructions, land seizures, shootings, “targeted assassinations,” regular bombing, the separation “fence”,12-meters high, a meter thick reinforced concrete towered-wall, the emblematic persecuted minority, vulnerable, humiliated and stateless....... The occupation is not an Zionist occupation, it is a Jewish occupation, and if you don’t like these things it is because you don’t like Jews! (*#%@$&OOPS;!!!)

Note, karim29007, that this topic has disappeared so soon from the Truthdig front page in favor of a story about a chimpanzee (a real one!). I guess that must make the Truthdig editorial staff happy as they most probably usually see such a face in the mirror every day too, uhh.

People are told what crime and justice is - by the Hollywood dream factories! Consequently, the idea that their nation’s president and administration and most elected representatives as well as many of the corporate businessmen, judiciary and military leaders are the real criminals seems strange.

Just like the pea and thimble trick, there are three thimbles, not one. Is is somewhat similar with the separation of powers of the state into an executive, a judiciary and a military and so forth. Behind the scenes, they are all really playing the same game - each to their own advantage.

Likewise, the divisions between government, big business and big finance are also illusory. But the real reason people can’t or don’t want to see the truth or the reality is because of something deep inside themselves. Thus, that makes it easy for outsiders with some leverage, financial or ideological, to manipulate what then happens.

Therefore, the “armoured bulldozers” are representative of the armor-plating they build in their own minds to shield themselves from the inconvenience of having to accept the facts - the truth about themselves that they would also have to accept as they accept the truth about their nation’s wrong actions and wrong thoughts.

‘thebeerdoctor’ was kind enough to post this VIDEO link in another topic re the “Electronic Intifada”. I have copied it here as it relates to the forthcoming end of the Palestinian Arabs and the absolute hegemony of the Israeli Jewish Zionists - http://democracynow.org/2008/1/24/where_do_the_preside ntial_contenders_stand

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By cyrena, January 27 at 1:35 am #
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Re:

“....Palestinians vote as they want, resist, carry on their daily lives with dignity—and blow huge holes in the walls and policies constructed in order to imprison and defeat them.”....

We should take some lessons from the Palestinians, right here at home, in our own 3rd world country. They’ve been coping for 60 years, and still managed to do what they needed to survive.

We’ve whimped out and given up in less than 10…

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By karim29007, January 27 at 1:28 am #
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The “Z” factor
The host and the parasite Part 3

The lurid, ruthless and savage attacks on former president Carter, Tony Judt - Professor in European Studies and historian, J. Mearsheimer , S. Wall- they were not able to publish their essay in the US and has to be published in Europe-, S. Zune, all of them are most respected conservative scholars, et al.
All these atrocities and human right violations have been displayed to the watching world despite of ever so tightened grip on media through disinformation, lies, deceits or suffocation of all dissident voices.

Curfews, checkpoints, armoured bulldozers, public humiliations, home destructions, land seizures, shootings, “targeted assassinations,” regular bombing, the separation “fence”,12-meters high, a meter thick reinforced concrete towered-wall, the emblematic persecuted minority, vulnerable, humiliated and stateless.
Everywhere you look, the tanks, the Howitzers’, F16/18 chasing a 12-years old boy stone thrower and the million plus cluster bombs on Lebanese villages and cities.
You could see the Star of David emblazoned upon them all and shining, “Serbia with nukes!”

This blinkered arrogance is patently summed up in an assertion by Shimon Peres on the very eve of the calamitous war that will in retrospect be seen, to have precipitated the onset of America’s alienation from its Zionist puppet-masters:
“The campaign against Saddam Hussein is a must.”

He repeated the same statement about Iran on the 10-20-2007, which was echoed on all Zionists’ controlled papers and media.

the unlimited power of pro-Zionists and anti-Muslim policy-makers with there agents as intelligence officials located at key posts within the National Security Council staff, the Pentagon, the State Department, Treasury Department and within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and everywhere else, with Zionist embassy in Washington as their focal point, makes a mockery of the so called ‘legislative branch’ irrespective of their colours.
After all an honest politician is the one whom once bought stays bought.

And with regime in the White House as an instrument and a proxy of the Zionists, America have been out sourced to the outreaches of Zionists

When a stone is thrown into the water there is a ripple until all the ripples finally reach the shore where they dissipate. The genocide in Palestine also has a ripple effect - this is just one ripple. For whatever reason this ripple shall not die, which will not be forgotten and it will reach its shore of justice, as the times they are indeed a-changing.

There is no such thing as a simple reform.
The reconstruction of the country’s internal and foreign structure is no less task than a revolution.

America has Zionist problem.

The poisonous tentacles of Zionists have penetrated every aspects of American’s way of life which threatens its very existence.

The likes of AIPAC, JINSA, ADL and the rest of consolidated Zionists consortium must be stopped and until then we shall all be heading for abyss and self demise.

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By karim29007, January 27 at 1:14 am #
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On Gaza

On Gaza..

The “Z” factor part 2

The host and the parasite

For the last 60-years America has been driven by the ” Creative genociders” like: David Ben Gurim, Benyamin Begin, Kissinger , Arial Sharon to the Nucons god-fathers of the Podhoretzs, Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Bolton, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Joe Lieberman, Pipes, Douglas Faith, William Kristol et al, just like the Zionists’ wedding list.

For how long Americans must carry the burden of Zionists?
For how long the Americas’ blood must be sacrificed to satisfy the cold-blooded greedy Zionists?

Subsidizing the Zionists by paying for their non-ending construction of houses and bungalows on occupied lands while tens of thousands of Americans are homeless and sleeping under the bridges?
For the last sixty years the American tax payer have been black-mailed to fork out more than $180.000.000.000 in cash payment to top-up the Zionists’ pocket-money alone while 40.000.000. Americans have no means of obtaining primary health care or insurance.
Just a glance at the budget deficit and it is crystal clear that the America and Americans have been mortgaged and pawned to feed the gluttonous Zionists for generations to come.
Zionists often emphasizes the Jewishness of many of its founding members and adherents, with their dual nationalities, where implicitly implying that they care more about the interests of Zionist entity than those of the United States.
The charge that criticism of Zionist entity is implicitly anti-Semitic - is regarded in the Zionists-occupied land and in the United States as the Zionist’s trump card and it has been played more insistently and aggressively in recent years than ever before.

This tactic not only does it inhibit their own criticisms of the Zionists for fear of appearing to associate with ’bad’ company, but it encourages others to look upon Jews everywhere as de facto collaborators in the Zionist’s genocidal established and implemented policy towards its neighbours.

When the Zionists breaks international law in the occupied territories, when the Zionists publicly humiliates the subjugated populations whose land it has seized, their infra-structures been destroyed, their water has been taken away “making the desert bloom”, deliberately destroying the water-treatment facilities and the sewage system to spread cholera, their meager agriculture have been eradicated and poisoned routinely- more than 38.000 olive trees have been up-rooted alone-, cutting of the fuel and electricity in Gaza, the cowardly army incursions and air strikes, targeted daily assassinations, turning the strip to the biggest prison world has seen with 1.5 million Arab in-mates, left to die by fully pre-planed and prepared programs according to David Ben Gurim right up to Likud and Kadima of now.

The practice of “decapitation and extermination” process is truly underway.

In conjunction with occupation of Golan height, the most recent pre-arranged attack on Lebanon’s towns and villages-with more than a 1000 civilians being murdered and estimated $100 billions of destroyed homes but then responds to its critics with screeching loud cries of “anti-Semitism and Jew-haters” - it is in effect saying that these acts are not the Zionist acts, they are Jewish acts: The occupation is not an Zionist occupation, it is a Jewish occupation, and if you don’t like these things it is because you don’t like Jews!

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By karim29007, January 27 at 12:57 am #
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The” Z” factor part 1
==========
The Host and the Parasite
It has been a very long disturbing and disastrous seven years with catastrophic consequences and yet nothing new and it is fundamentally a continuation of 60- years strategic policy which has been planned and implemented meticulously to achieve its final objectives.

Why the Americans have to face the tragedy of a manipulated great power politics and its far reaching consequences?
Why the “self-selected leaders” have conducted the business of a nation whom put their trust in the hand of pure sickening, sadistic, characters and down right massively organized criminals that have substituted the delegated faith and confidence of a nation with their very own specific ‘given-agenda’ and ulterior motives with full conflict of interest as far as America and Americans are concerned?
who are they and acting on behalf of whom?
You keep asking yourself, searching and looking for clues and answers.
Again and again more questions than answers have been the outcome.
What is happing at home and abroad?
We used to be respected, counted upon, being invited and welcomed.
What has changed so drastically that the same rest of the world being so hateful to us?
Why is that we have been chased and despised everywhere?
Why is that we must pretend that “I am Canadian” when travelling overseas?
Why is that we are shooting at everyone and being targeted by the rest of the world?
Why is that we kill millions and get killed by thousands?
Why that is the mighty green back no longer worth much?
Why is that slightest and the most modest attempts to have a public debate or examining such magnitude and important issues are being savagely attacked, trivialised or simply excluded to the extent that one has to go abroad to get a book published?

It used to be the general policy of ‘United States should act only according to its self-interests’.
Slowly but surely it was changing to the unilateral and militaristic turns that gave us such concepts and its implementations as “pre-emptive wars” ,"benevolent hegemony” , “tailor-made regime change” etc.

But is it not identical to the same principle as”the Zionists’ strategic policy for Middle-East” that has been very precisely published by JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs), along with Center for Security Policy, that “underwritten by far-right American Zionists”?

“regime change’’ by any means necessary in Iraq , Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority is an urgent imperative. Anyone who dissents—be it Colin Powell’s State Department, the CIA or career military officers—is committing heresy against articles of faith that effectively hold there is no difference between US and Israeli national security interests, and that the only way to assure continued safety and prosperity for both countries is through hegemony in the Middle East—a hegemony achieved with the traditional cold war recipe of feints, force, clientism and covert action. The military and strategic alliance between the United States and Israel is of paramount necessity as the cause of Israel is the cause of America”.

There we are: The American government’s internal and foreign policy with the enclosed instruction manual written and printed in the Zionist entity.

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By hetzer, January 26 at 7:39 am #
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Continuous criminal war for over 60 years.

Endless amounts of force and fraud.  Endless treacheries.  Endless stupidities. Endless atrocities and cruelties. Heathenish religions, and crooks profiting from it all.  Everybody has a stake in ending it and keeping it.  They are all stupid peasants who think they and their cause is special. When you’ve had a stew on the stove too long, you just throw it out.  But where could you dump all the endlessly festering poisons in this one?.  CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THESE FILTH ARE WORTH RESPECTING?  The U.S. is even worse with its circus of Kissingers, and Neocons, and other traitors.  We should walk away from the stench, but where would we go?  These people can poop up any world.

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By cyrena, January 26 at 3:17 am #
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Re:

The ‘truth’ would be that they didn’t seem to need any of the standard ‘arms’ seeing as how they’ve managed to find a way to get what they need to survive without that.

That’s not to say that a ‘home’ under the Mubarack dictatorship would be what the Palestinians would choose, but that’s not the issue right now. The issue is surviving Israel’s treachery and brutality, and staying alive. I’d say they’ve managed that pretty well, with just a bulldozer, and maybe some explosives.

And…Israel gets to be nervous and wring their hands, even more than usual. Like hetzer said, nothing else to steal, so now they get to have some genuine concerns, about holding on to what they’ve already stolen. What irony. No doubt they’re hiding in their bunkers, even though nobody’s bothering them.

And, what a hoot that Libya is now “chairing’ the UN security council. Times do change…oh yeah, even when they stay the same.

Meantime, I’m tickled pink that the Gazans have broken out of their prison, and managed to go and pick up the stuff that they need, things ALL humans deserve to have. Do some shopping, visit the family, etc. Yep, I think it’s great. Or, if not great, it’s a damn sure better than being caged up and starved to death by the Israelis and their 60 year reign of terror.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7210311.stm

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By cyrena, January 26 at 2:41 am #
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Re: Re: Crooks

This has a ring of truth to it hetzer, on Kissinger that is.

But, I think he’s way too smart to ‘stand out’ much anymore. He pretty much stays more ‘hidden’ than even Cheney. Not much of a choice. There’s a global APB out on him.

Still, that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have masterminded 9/11. I don’t know that he did, but anything is possible.

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 26 at 1:20 am #
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By Sodium, January 25: “Here another shocker for you… I am not an Anti-Semitic...”

Thanks, Sodium, and there is ever yet another issue in the convoluted machinations of so-called diplomacy in the M.East. Egypt is also trying to keep their border with Gaza closed. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/world/middleeast/26g aza.html?_r=1&8au;&emc;=au&oref=slogin

Hamas is trying to push Egypt into an agreement to regulate the border without having it sealed, as it had been from the time Hamas took over Gaza in early June. A Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said, “The gaps shouldn’t be closed because they provide urgent assistance to the Palestinians.”

But is that issue entirely their own? Perhaps Egypt is under threat from Israel as well as being manipulated by the USA which has promised them a $20 billion military aid deal which they can hardly ignore while the USA is continuing to arm Israel.

Thus, the perceived interests of the nominally Christian fundamantalists in the USA are still dictating terms in the M.East, no matter how ludicrous they really are. That there is hardly anything “Christian” in their actions never dawns on them in their perceived fantasising over the stupid concept of a “holy land” belonging exclusively to the Jews.

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By Sodium, January 25 at 9:17 pm #
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Douglas Chalmers:

Here another shocker for you:

In some quarters of the shitty state of Israel,A non-
-Jewish woman married to a Jewish man is considered a
whore and her children are considered bastards.This is not from the Protocols which I personally abhor.
Check it out.

Not all Jews feel that way,however;but only Zionist
assholes like lilmamzer and his/her ilks who proliferate their venoms all over the truthdig’s
threads and else where.

I am not an Anti-Semitic,not even in a minute measure
but I have to admit I have appreciated reading your
intelligently written posts and your relentless efforts in exposing the Zionist ugliness and filth
among us and the rest of the world.They should,rather
must, be exposed.Others,like hetzer,have done a fine
job explicitly and bluntly I have failed to do.

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By hetzer, January 25 at 7:59 am #
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Re: Brief

And even more stupid.

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By hetzer, January 25 at 6:37 am #
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Re: Guns are the ultimate commodity

All the crooks on all the sides will sell them for food.  There will be nothing left for Israelis to steal.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 25 at 5:34 am #
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Republicans, Israel, and Saudi Arabia and more.

The Grandaddy of all Conspiracy theories....

Hate to tell you this, But NO one “stole” the USA we sold it to them a piece at a time....

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 25 at 1:21 am #
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By truthdweller, January 24; “I don’t have a problem arming the Palestinians...”

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Weeelllllll, “dwelling in truth” didn’t last for long, eh???

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By Sepharad, January 24 at 11:54 pm #
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Re: lilmamzer on Tzipi and Frattini

lilmamzer, I don’t know how you can continue to stomach the anti-Semitic anti-Zionist BS (even Dr. Martin Luther King insisted that anti-Zionism was anti-Semitism)that dominates this thread and keep coming back as rationally as you do. Have been busy compiling pro-Israel research for other writers and speakers, and not checked in on the Truthdig crazies for a long time. Totally agree with you on TLivni’s excellence and hope she may be the next P.M. Obviously no one but the cretins on this thread would watch the Palestinians in Gaza lob thousands of rockets at the Israelis then expect the Israelis to be nicer. Had not heard Frattini’s comments and find them surprising but most welcome. If the Europeans in general are finally beginning to get the complexities of the Middle East, could Britain be far behind? Gotta say that the BBC remains one of the most biased media outlets—can’t figure out how people with access to archives in British Museum Library and Ottoman Archives manage to avoid reading them. In case you missed it, the AJC’s David Harris recently delivered a great rundown on why the U.S. is so pro-Israel in Germany recently. He thoroughly gutting the Walt/Mearshimer all-powerful Israel Lobby nonsense. (Among other things, pointed out that only an infinitesimal percent of American Jews—not quite 3%—voted for Bush despite his Christian Zionist orientation.) As a longtime political progressive, I can’t understand why the left is so Middle Eastern-illiterate. Guess they haven’t read Ibn Khaldun—the greatest Arab historian of them all—on the nature of the Arab culture’s tenuous connection to speaking truth. Or Fouad Ajami’s “Dream Palace of the Arabs” and “The Arab Predicament.” Anyhow, you have my admiration. Keep it up.

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By truthdweller, January 24 at 10:17 pm #
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I don’t have a problem arming the Palestinians. Why the hell not? We’ve armed everybody else in the region..

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By hetzer, January 24 at 9:02 pm #
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Re: Crooks

Crooks use force and fraud to rule.  The human race is divided into crooks, suckers (who believe in them), and lazy cowards who endure them.  I would suggest Kissinger as the greatest Jewish crook of the last century (He would have been a vicious crook in any religion including Republicanism).  His slaughterings were everywhere, from Chile and the rest of South America to Cambodia and Indonesia.  He was the ultimate filth of the New World takeover.  He may have even been the mastermind of 911.  If you are looking for one evil genius who really stands out, Kissinger is your guy.

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By fempatriot, January 24 at 8:15 pm #
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Actually, the idea that the Palestinians should be exterminated appears to have been thought by Ariel Sharon. 

In 1983, Sharon is credited with having said the following:  “Leibowitz is right; we are Judeo-Nazis, and why not?...now don’t be shocked.  If they (the founders of Israel) instead had killed six million Arabs here or even one million, what would have happened?  Sure, two or three nasty pages would have been written in the history books, we would have been called all kinds of names, but we could be here today as a people of 25 million...”
Sharon as quoted by Amos Oz, who is an Israeli journalist.  This is from an interview for the Jewish “Les voix d’Israel,” Calmann-Levy, Paris.  Translated by Guy Seniak.  The interview is on pages 79-91.
He then goes on to vow to “kill as many Arabs as I can...”
And our current president, George W. Bush, called Sharon “a man of peace.”

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By hetzer, January 24 at 8:12 pm #
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Re: Pithy

And Stupid.

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By fempatriot, January 24 at 7:51 pm #
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There are many Israelis who deplore the actions of their government, just as I deplore the actions of my government nowadays.  But the Israelis who are sympathetic toward the Palestinian plight are few in number compared to the majority, which thinks the Palestinians are less than human and want them all dead or gone from the area.  So long as truly good people remain a minority in Israel (and the USA) both Israel & the US will continue down the wrong path--and both will eventually suffer the consequences of letting evil men obtain power.
http://www.gush-shalom.org
http://www.democracynow.org

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By weather, January 24 at 6:05 pm #
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Re: Republicans, Israel, and Saudi Arabia and more.

“By 9-11 they were able to celebrate this fact by producing a snuff film.” - in Technicolor

They had us all looking up from the outside, when this mass murder was being committed in broad daylight from the inside.

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By hetzer, January 24 at 5:14 pm #
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Republicans, Israel, and Saudi Arabia and more.

By 2000, the Republicans, Israel and Saudi Arabia had stolen 90 percent of the United States.  By 9-11 they were able to celebrate this fact by producing a snuff film.

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 24 at 9:13 am #
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Moralizing is alway cheaper than smarts - #By hetzer, January 24: “The Israelis.... Why didn’t they come to New York...”

Let them eat sushi, hetzer!

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By hetzer, January 24 at 9:01 am #
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Re: Are you kidding Robert?

You speak for “the people’s of the world”.  Are you kidding me?  Moralizing is alway cheaper than smarts.  My dog got out of the yard the other day.  That earned him a longer rope, that I can step on.  Your cynicism comes too cheap.  I don’t think it is honestly earned.  There are no good guys in this whorehouse of the world.  It is always bad guys versus bad guys.  Everyone will do anything for a bigger tip.

The Israelis are the stupidest people on earth, except for the Americans.  They were conned by Zionists and Anti-semitics into believing that another death camp was good for them.  Why didn’t they come to New York?

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By Robert, January 24 at 8:42 am #
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January 24, 2008
Hole in the Wall
Power to the (Palestinian) People!

By JEFF HALPER

“The people of Palestine have done it again, taking their own fate in their hands after being let down by their own “moderate” political leadership and, indeed, the entire international community in their struggle for freedom. Early this morning they simply blew up the wall separating Gaza from Egypt, breaking a siege imposed on them by an Arab government in collaboration with Israel.

We, the peoples of the world, should take great pride and encouragement in this quintessentially civil society refusal to accept subjugation, to abandon their fate to governments, including their own, for whom the lives of ordinary people are simply grist for their political charades—Annapolis and its subsequent “peace process” being but the last cynical expression. For the Palestinians represent far more than just themselves. Their refusal to submit to the dictates of governments, or to governments’ lack of interest in the well-being of people in general, reflects the desire of billions of oppressed people for identity, freedom, a decent life and actualization of their collective and individual rights and potentials. Most of the oppressed, the “wretched of the earth” as Franz Fanon called them a half-century ago, are too preoccupied with the daunting daily struggle for survival to organize and resist. Others do resist in a myriad of ways, but are most often repressed by their own political and economic “leaders,” disappearing anonymously from view. In a few cases they have managed to mount effective resistance to oppression, even to prevail—though the billions spent on “counterinsurgency” warfare by the US, Europe, Russia, Israel and many “developing” nations augur ill for peoples attempting to overthrow oppressive regimes.

In this the Palestinians stand at the forefront, in the front lines of peoples’ insistence everywhere that their rights, well-being and fundamental values as human beings be respected by governments. And they do so (and I write this as an Israeli with great sorrow and shame) against one of the world’s strongest and most ruthless military powers—a power that has dispossessed them from 85% of their land, which is trying to transform its occupation into a permanent regime of apartheid, which has spent decades impoverishing and disenfranchising them; the fourth largest nuclear power which nevertheless casts itself as the victim. Not only have the Palestinians experienced the dehumanization all oppressed and colonized peoples experience, not only have they been made into the embodiment of the rich and powerful’s greatest fear, evil “terrorists” who may tear down their privileged “civilization,” but they have been turned into guinea pigs. Israel is able to gain an edge in the counterinsurgency industry and win entree into the heart of the American military/hi tech complex by turning the Occupied Territories into a laboratory for the development of fiendish weaponry and tactics intended for use against people.

And yet the Palestinian people—and in particular those who remain sumud, steadfast, in Palestine—continue not only to resist but to surprise and confound its would-be Israeli master at every turn. Despite unlimited control, a complete monopoly over the use of force, utter callousness and a vaunted Shin Beit, Israel’s military intelligence, Palestinians vote as they want, resist, carry on their daily lives with dignity—and blow huge holes in the walls and policies constructed in order to imprison and defeat them.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/halper01242008.html

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 24 at 5:28 am #
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Survival of Palestine is not

Survival of Palestine is not viable - #By A Khokar, January 24: “This world has to come forward to arm Palestinian with some potent arsenal that they at least can be at par… to archiac rival Israel...”

Well, for a start, Israel is NOT an “archaic rival”, AK. The three Abrahamic religions and the various ethnic groups managed to live together before the British, the Europeans and the Americans re-arranged borders and decided their fate for them following the end of the Turkish Ottoman empire.

You should know that because that is also more or less how your beloved Pakistan came into existence as a separate state. The arrival of millions of European Jews did nothing to help. Obviously, you have no understanding of the term “land-grab” although your people continue to fight over the Kashmir you lost.

The whole point IS that the world came forward to arm Israel step by step and this is the result. Now, they will find a way to re-start the 1960’s confrontation with Egypt over the Gaza refugee issue. You know how the game is played between India and Pakistan. There is peace if they want it - or there is conflict if they want it.

The only variable is the influence of outside forces such as the USA. The whole game is played according to how they wish to tilt the playing field (their rules). Of course, you are a war-monger yourself and you would like to see the armaments industry profit from such affairs. Perhaps you sell/supply arms yourself?

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By A Khokar, January 24 at 4:44 am #
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Its Time; Palestinian be armed

They say: Offence is the Best Form of Defence; Survival of Palestine is not viable till Palestinian posses some real deterring means to ward off the Israeli oppression. Returning the Israeli aggression in equal coins is the only option. This world has to come forward to arm Palestinian with some potent arsenal that they at least can be at par (to a certain degree) to archiac rival Israel. This will make the Palestinian feel more confident as well as responsible to conduct their affairs with ease.  It may also stop the irritating and ill aimed sporadic rockets firing by Palestinian which is jeopardising the lives of many Israelis.

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By Sodium, January 23 at 11:34 pm #
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Zionists:Learning from the lessons of

Zionists:

Learning from the lessons of history is a wise thing
to do.

The ancient Hebrews,who had closer kinship to the
Arabs than to you, thought they were safe with their
military power in Palestine.

The Babylonian warrior,Nebuchadnezzar,had proven
otherwise.And he took them as captives with him,all
the way to Babylon.

Similar fate may fall upon you or your children or
your children children etc..if you do not repent
your criminal ways,regardless how long it may take.
History of that part of the world says so.

Justice will bring peace.Nothing else.

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By Ostrogoth, January 23 at 7:16 pm #
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Re: Re: Bankok Expatriate, Your comment, "...routinely

Bangkok Expatriate, try to make sense, please. Occupiers and ethnic cleansers are by definition the aggressors and have no right to self-defense. Those who resist occupation and ethnic cleansing can never be the aggressors.

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By Bangkok Expatriate, January 23 at 6:28 pm #
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Re: Bankok Expatriate, Your comment, "...routinely

The conundrum here is that by the same international legal conventions, Israel has the right to self defense when attacked by an aggressor, which these militants are, irrespective of the right an occupied people have to fight their oppressors.

It is equally a futile business, a no win situation for both sides, which is the point I was trying to make, and you have ignored.

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By Bangkok Expatriate, January 23 at 6:27 pm #
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Re: Bankok Expatriate, Your comment, "...routinely

The conundrum here is that by the same international legal conventions, Israel has the right to self defense when attacked by an aggressor, which these militants are, irrespective of the right an occupied people have to fight their oppressors.

It is equally a futile business, a no win situation for both sides, which is the point I was trying to make, and you have ignnored.

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By Ostrogoth, January 23 at 6:16 pm #
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my apology

Response to Howard’s post @ January 23 3:52 am

My apologies for the thoughtless remark about Zionist attack dogs.

I like dogs, even attack dogs, and should never have disparaged them by equating them with Zionists, even in the abstract. My apologies to all attack dogs everywhere.

I knew that some Zionist would respond to my post by calling me a racist. Zionists are racists, not a race, Howard, although you would have us believe otherwise.

But thanks for sparing me the de rigor “anti-Semite” slur. While KKKrs, Nazis and Zionists judge others based on race, I judge people based only on their actions. I will defend any victim of racist persecution, and so should you. Judging from your previous posts, you don’t.

For example, the garbage you posted on January 22 at 11:48 am: “Gaza is entirely full of a citizenry that can do anything positive to start improving their own lives. Let is see what they can do of a positive nature, eh? Stop blaming the Israelis who would love to help them. No one else will in the Mid East. They’re living off the dole of the rest of the world for food etc. Thousands of Gazans worked in Israel until their wacko Hamas leaders bombed the crossing points.”

As for Walt and Mearsheimers’ book getting well-panned by the critics: it’s true that their book has flaws; the authors pull some of their punches against the Jewish State, as I pointed out in my original post. Try reading Jonathan Cook’s books if you want the whole truth.

It’s hard to imagine anyone who says things like “goodness gracious,” and “wowzer” in his posts, as you do, peddling the lies you do in an attempt to defend the indefensible. Why don’t you take your defense of Israeli ethnic cleansing to a more receptive audience, such as AIPAC, WINEP, or the ZOA?

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By Ron Ranft, January 23 at 4:16 pm #
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Re: Hospital Care for Gazans in Israeli Hospital

Don’t you find it ironic that there is this wonderful program to give the greatest of medical care to small children so they then can return to a place where they will be rocketed, shot, bulldozed, starved, imprisoned without charge just because they are not a Jew. Israel simply does not get that they have become their worst nightmare, Nazi’s. Yes, I hear the outrage! I hear the cries of Jew hater. That is exactly what happens when you simply point out that Israel was founded on terrorism and the crime of stealing land and just because the Israel doesn’t use force labor to kill Palestinians , or gas them in great numbers as happened during the Holocaust, the long term effect is exactly the same. It is not about the numbers, tho the numbers killed and displaced by Israel is shameful and criminal, it is about the end results. Had Germany done to the Jews what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians, would that have lessened the intent of the crime. I think not! And the government of the US has aided and abetted this crime. Where do you think the weapons to do this has come from?

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By lilmamzer, January 23 at 2:44 pm #
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Re: I always blame the victims last.

Hetzer writes:

“It is quite possible that Israelis are behind the rocket attacks on their own territory, so they can keep their endlessly divided population on the march and gullible.”

That’s a classic.

And you believe the 9-11 attacks were an inside job, too, of course.........

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By Unregistered, January 23 at 2:32 pm #
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Bankok Expatriate, Your comment, "...routinely

Bankok Expatriate, Your comment, “...routinely ignoring the illegal actions of the militants.” is not sound.  According to the Geneva Conventions and international law, an occupied people do have a basic legal right to fight the occupation.  Thus, the actions of the Palestinians against the occupying forces, however else you may want to categorize them, cannot rightly be construed as illegal.

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By hetzer, January 23 at 9:52 am #
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Re: God Is (still) Love, (all) war is (always) hell...

I understand the moralizing.  The best thing about it is that it makes one feel superior while doing something that is almost worse than useless.

The real problem with violence and cruelty is that it is always a desperately stupid gamble.  Next time the dice may be loaded against you.  Most cards of violence are well marked by crooks.  It takes smarts to see this.  The real war is always against stupidity in all its forms.

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By hetzer, January 23 at 9:48 am #
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Re: Hospital Care for Gazans in Israeli Hospital

Isn’t it nice to be conned by someone doing something useful?  It is always good to do something for kids, of course.  Then you can use them for targets later.  Passive aggressive behavior is the hallmark of cruelty and abuse.

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By GrammaConcept, January 23 at 8:18 am #
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God Is (still) Love, (all) war is (always) hell...

Wake up, grow up, commit to work (and yearn) for Peace, Please......

.......At war with oneself, there can be no Peace with others.......

....................Strive On, Humanity...Strive On!.......................

Warmly,
Gramma

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By Howard, January 23 at 7:26 am #
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Hospital Care for Gazans in Israeli Hospital

Gazan Hearts Saved in Israel as Conflict Rages

With violence along Israel’s southern border escalating, a hospital in Israel offers a ray of hope for a handful of seriously ill Gazans. “This child would have died without surgery,” said Dr. Alona Raucher-Sternfeld, looking at the small Palestinian baby, Jamal, and the echo machine checking his heart. Six-month-old Jamal came with his grandmother from Dir al-Balah in Gaza to get a check-up on Jan. 15 at Wolfson Medical Center near Tel Aviv. Jamal was operated on there when he was two months old, suffering from two heart defects.

The surgery, hospital stay and logistics in bringing him out of Gaza were coordinated and partially funded by Save a Child’s Heart, an Israeli humanitarian organization, with some EU donations.

In 2007, 128 Palestinian children from the West Bank and Gaza, all suffering from heart conditions, were treated by the program. Col. Nir Press, head of the Israeli coordination and liaison administration in Gaza, said the number of permits to Israel issued for medical reasons had risen 50% in 2007. (ReliefWeb-UN)

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By hetzer, January 23 at 6:37 am #
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Re: Quite an obvious racist statement

You are only half right.  Everybody is sub-human.  The human race is a terrible mistake.  The Israelis just haven’t figured it out yet.

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By hetzer, January 23 at 6:34 am #
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Re: the Wall is down.

A crook with a sense of irony.  Not all Zionists are totally stupid.

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By Howard, January 23 at 6:21 am #
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the Wall is down.

Wonderful,
now Egypt can help them start a viable country (?) They were in charge of Gaza until they disowned it after the ‘67 war.  right on.

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By karim29007, January 23 at 4:39 am #
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On Gaza.======How to implement Collective

On Gaza.
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How to implement Collective Extermination of one and a half million Palestinian people.
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“Gaza’s grave diggers are busy. More than 85 Palestinians - mainly due to kidney failure, cholera and Israeli air strikes”- have died since last week” BBC.

1-Sinking Gaza into a sea of darkness, poverty, despair and death condemning them to devastation, and visiting imminent death upon hundreds of kidney dialysis and heart patients, prematurely born babies, and all others dependent on electric power for their very survival.
2-By freezing fuel and electric power supplies to Gaza, the Zionists, the occupying agents, essentially guaranteeing that “the most heavily contaminated” water—as Gaza’s water is perhaps the most polluted in the whole region, after decades of the Zionists’ theft and being deliberately polluted —will be consumed and properly distributed to homes and institutions.
3-Hospitals will not be able to function adequately, leading to the eventual death of many, particularly the most vulnerable.
4- Whatever factories that are still working despite the siege will now be forced to close, pushing the already extremely high unemployment rate even higher.
5- Sewage treatment will come to a halt; further polluting Gaza’s precious little water supply, if any.
6- Academic institutions and schools will not be able to provide their usual services.
7- Lives of all civilians will be severely disrupted, if not irreversibly damaged by contaminated food and malnutrition.

Meanwhile the Zionists’ dance groups, singing bands and orchestras are touring European cities and spreading their “culture”, knowing that soon there would be more land available to build upon, upon the biggest mass grave yard that has been witnessed in history.

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 23 at 4:29 am #
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Wow, the wall is finally

Wow, the wall is finally DOWN!!!

Tens of Thousands of Palestinians Flood Into Egypt Through Breached Gaza Wall.....

Palestinians cross the border after militants exploded the separated wall between Gaza Strip and Egypt, seen background, in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2008. Masked Palestinian gunmen breached the Gaza-Egypt border wall Wednesday, and thousands of Gazans trapped in their territory by a tight blockade poured into Egypt to buy food, fuel and other supplies that have become scarce. Egyptian border guards and Hamas police took no action as Palestinians hurried over the border and began returning with bags of food, boxes of cigarettes and plastic bottles of fuel. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4175115

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 23 at 4:13 am #
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Quite an obvious racist statement

Quite an obvious racist statement - #By Howard, January 23: “...that statement typifies you’re lacking of reading ‘anything ‘ let alone history...”

You are known for your own distortions, Howard. Intentionally misinterpreting peoples’ words and aviding other more inconvenient truths is your style.

This time, though, Ostrogoth, January 23, was actually referring to what I had posted in reply to “lilmamzers” racist-supremacist statement re Jews/Israel, January 22: “we are GOD’S chosen people--hence all others are sub-human...”

Now, answer that AND my response to it below, thanks!

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By Howard, January 23 at 3:52 am #
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Dogs??

RE:  By Ostrogoth, January 23 at 2:56 am #
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Ostrogoths says:

“"As for the Zionist attack dogs that post on this forum, they deserve no more respect than KKK or Nazi Party fanatics “”

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Quite an obvious racist statement in itself.  Goodness gracious.  I’ve heard of irrationality, but wowzer !that statement typifies you’re lacking of reading ‘anything ‘ let alone history.  Besides your misguided post.

Walt & Mersheimers book has been well-been panned for being inaccurate on the history of the ME.

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By Ostrogoth, January 23 at 2:56 am #
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a racist theocracy, at U.S. taxpayer expense

I’m currently reading Walt and Mearsheimer’s “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.” It’s well-written and generally well-researched, although one of the authors’ fundamental conclusions doesn’t follow from all the damning data they provide about the creation of the “Jewish State.” They carefully document that Israel was established largely through terror tactics aimed at driving Palestinians off their own land, and then assert that Israel has a right to exist.

A conclusion that begs the key question in the ME conundrum: exist as what? As a racist theocracy? Or as an integrated, secular democracy--a proposition anathema to Zionist racists because of the so-called Arab “demographic threat.”

I use the term “racist theocracy” advisedly. How else would you describe a society that restricts citizenship based on racial and religious qualifications? On page 88, Walt and Mearsheimer write “While Israel’s citizens are of many backgrounds, including Arab, Muslim, and Christian, among others, it was explicitly founded as a Jewish state, and whether a citizen is regarded as Jewish ordinarily depends on kinship (verifiable Jewish ancestry).” The footnote to this text states: “According to the Law of Return, a ‘Jew’ is defined as ‘a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has become converted to Judaism and who is not a member of another religion.’”

On the same page, the authors also state: “In addition to Israel’s commitment to maintaining its Jewish identity and its refusal to grant de jure equality for non-Jews, Israel’s 1.36 million Arabs are de facto treated as second-class citizens.”

And: “Israel’s treatment of its Arab citizens is more than just discriminatory. For example, to limit the number of Arabs in its midst, Israel does not permit Palestinians who marry Israeli citizens to become citizens themselves and does not give these spouses the right to live in Israel. The Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem called this restriction ‘a racist law that determines who can live here according to racist criteria.’” (p. 88-89)

Is there any other country in the world that is so blatantly racist and theocratic? Yet Zionists never fail to smear all their critics as racist “anti-Semites.” The best defense is a good offense, but they’ve been getting away with this con for over sixty years. Enough.

We’ll never have any peace in the ME until Palestinian refugees are allowed to return to their land and property. Let the Zionists assimilate the Arab refugees into Israel and coexist with them. Or the Zionists can leave. Up to them.

As for the Zionist attack dogs that post on this forum, they deserve no more respect than KKK or Nazi Party fanatics.

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By observer, January 23 at 2:07 am #
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Israel, a population bent only

Israel, a population bent only on revenge and domination has, inadverdently, while poisoning its enemies (the favored weapon of the weakling), poisoned its own pr