and demoralizations that are necessary to victimize.  Genetically speaking, the whole human race is a terrible mistake.  Every one of its strengths has turned into a weakness, especially when it is combined wI have learned through the years to harbor a black hatred for all human groupings, races, creeds and classes.  Above all I am anti - Crook, Sucker, and Lazy Coward.  Thanks Chalmers for adding something beyond a crooked brain fart.  There are no morally superior people - just moralizers.  Victims incite the fears, hatreds ith wealth and power and delusions of specialness.  Everything of beauty from Shakespeare to the Koran has turned into a weapon or a commodity.  HUMANS WILL NOT BE MISSED WHETHER THEY ARE AMERICANS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

Israeli crooks have been using us as a big stupid brother for protection, and U.S. criminals used Israel to keep things off balance in the middle east.
The Christian and Jewish suckers have defended this arrangement, while the lazy cowards have kept their thumbs in their mouth.  HELLO….HELLO….THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE HUMAN RAP SHEET.

By karim29007, January 27: ”...a nation whom put their trust in the hand of pure sickening, sadistic, characters and down right massively organized criminals….. hegemony in the Middle East—a hegemony achieved with the traditional cold war recipe of feints, force, clientism and covert action…

The “Z” factor - The host and the parasite

Curfews, checkpoints, armoured bulldozers, public humiliations, home destructions, land seizures, shootings, “targeted assassinations,” regular bombing, the separation “fence”,12-meters high, a meter thick reinforced concrete towered-wall, the emblematic persecuted minority, vulnerable, humiliated and stateless….... The occupation is not an Zionist occupation, it is a Jewish occupation, and if you don’t like these things it is because you don’t like Jews! (*#%@$&OOPS;!!!)

Note, karim29007, that this topic has disappeared so soon from the Truthdig front page in favor of a story about a chimpanzee (a real one!). I guess that must make the Truthdig editorial staff happy as they most probably usually see such a face in the mirror every day too, uhh.

People are told what crime and justice is - by the Hollywood dream factories! Consequently, the idea that their nation’s president and administration and most elected representatives as well as many of the corporate businessmen, judiciary and military leaders are the real criminals seems strange.

Just like the pea and thimble trick, there are three thimbles, not one. Is is somewhat similar with the separation of powers of the state into an executive, a judiciary and a military and so forth. Behind the scenes, they are all really playing the same game - each to their own advantage.

Likewise, the divisions between government, big business and big finance are also illusory. But the real reason people can’t or don’t want to see the truth or the reality is because of something deep inside themselves. Thus, that makes it easy for outsiders with some leverage, financial or ideological,  to manipulate what then happens.

Therefore, the “armoured bulldozers” are representative of the armor-plating they build in their own minds to shield themselves from the inconvenience of having to accept the facts - the truth about themselves that they would also have to accept as they accept the truth about their nation’s wrong actions and wrong thoughts.

‘thebeerdoctor’ was kind enough to post this VIDEO link in another topic re the “Electronic Intifada”. I have copied it here as it relates to the forthcoming end of the Palestinian Arabs and the absolute hegemony of the Israeli Jewish Zionists - http://democracynow.org/2008/1/24/where_do_the_presidential_contenders_stand

“....Palestinians vote as they want, resist, carry on their daily lives with dignity—and blow huge holes in the walls and policies constructed in order to imprison and defeat them.”....

We should take some lessons from the Palestinians, right here at home, in our own 3rd world country. They’ve been coping for 60 years, and still managed to do what they needed to survive.

We’ve whimped out and given up in less than 10…

The “Z” factor
The host and the parasite           Part 3

The lurid, ruthless and savage attacks on former president Carter, Tony Judt - Professor in European Studies and historian, J. Mearsheimer , S. Wall- they were not able to publish their essay in the US and has to be published in Europe-,  S. Zune, all of them are most respected conservative scholars, et al.
All these atrocities and human right violations have been displayed to the watching world despite of ever so tightened grip on media through disinformation, lies, deceits or suffocation of all dissident voices.

Curfews, checkpoints, armoured bulldozers, public humiliations, home destructions, land seizures, shootings, “targeted assassinations,” regular bombing, the separation “fence”,12-meters high, a meter thick reinforced concrete towered-wall, the emblematic persecuted minority, vulnerable, humiliated and stateless.
Everywhere you look, the tanks, the Howitzers’, F16/18 chasing a 12-years old boy stone thrower and the million plus cluster bombs on Lebanese villages and cities.
You could see the Star of David emblazoned upon them all and shining, “Serbia with nukes!”

This blinkered arrogance is patently summed up in an assertion by Shimon Peres on the very eve of the calamitous war that will in retrospect be seen, to have precipitated the onset of America’s alienation from its Zionist puppet-masters:
“The campaign against Saddam Hussein is a must.”

He repeated the same statement about Iran on the 10-20-2007, which was echoed on all Zionists’ controlled papers and media.

the unlimited power of pro-Zionists and anti-Muslim policy-makers with there agents as intelligence officials located at key posts within the National Security Council staff, the Pentagon, the State Department, Treasury Department and within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and everywhere else, with Zionist embassy in Washington as their focal point, makes a mockery of the so called ‘legislative branch’ irrespective of their colours.
After all an honest politician is the one whom once bought stays bought.

And with regime in the White House as an instrument and a proxy of the Zionists, America have been out sourced to the outreaches of Zionists

When a stone is thrown into the water there is a ripple until all the ripples finally reach the shore where they dissipate. The genocide in Palestine also has a ripple effect - this is just one ripple. For whatever reason this ripple shall not die, which will not be forgotten and it will reach its shore of justice, as the times they are indeed a-changing.

There is no such thing as a simple reform.
The reconstruction of the country’s internal and foreign structure is no less task than a revolution.

America has Zionist problem.

The poisonous tentacles of Zionists have penetrated every aspects of American’s way of life which threatens its very existence.

The likes of AIPAC, JINSA, ADL and the rest of consolidated Zionists consortium must be stopped and until then we shall all be heading for abyss and self demise.

On Gaza..

The “Z” factor               part 2

The host and the parasite

For the last 60-years America has been driven by the ” Creative genociders” like: David Ben Gurim, Benyamin Begin, Kissinger , Arial Sharon to the Nucons god-fathers of the Podhoretzs, Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Bolton, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Joe Lieberman, Pipes, Douglas Faith, William Kristol et al,  just like the Zionists’ wedding list.

For how long Americans must carry the burden of Zionists?
For how long the Americas’ blood must be sacrificed to satisfy the cold-blooded greedy Zionists?

Subsidizing the Zionists by paying for their non-ending construction of houses and bungalows on occupied lands while tens of thousands of Americans are homeless and sleeping under the bridges?
For the last sixty years the American tax payer have been black-mailed to fork out more than $180.000.000.000 in cash payment to top-up the Zionists’ pocket-money alone while 40.000.000. Americans have no means of obtaining primary health care or insurance.
Just a glance at the budget deficit and it is crystal clear that the America and Americans have been mortgaged and pawned to feed the gluttonous Zionists for generations to come.
Zionists often emphasizes the Jewishness of many of its founding members and adherents, with their dual nationalities, where implicitly implying that they care more about the interests of Zionist entity than those of the United States.
The charge that criticism of Zionist entity is implicitly anti-Semitic - is regarded in the Zionists-occupied land and in the United States as the Zionist’s trump card and it has been played more insistently and aggressively in recent years than ever before.

This tactic not only does it inhibit their own criticisms of the Zionists for fear of appearing to associate with ’bad’ company, but it encourages others to look upon Jews everywhere as de facto collaborators in the Zionist’s genocidal established and implemented policy towards its neighbours.

When the Zionists breaks international law in the occupied territories, when the Zionists publicly humiliates the subjugated populations whose land it has seized, their infra-structures been destroyed, their water has been taken away “making the desert bloom”, deliberately destroying the water-treatment facilities and the sewage system to spread cholera, their meager agriculture have been eradicated and poisoned routinely- more than 38.000 olive trees have been up-rooted alone-, cutting of the fuel and electricity in Gaza, the cowardly army incursions and air strikes, targeted daily assassinations, turning the strip to the biggest prison world has seen with 1.5 million Arab in-mates, left to die by fully pre-planed and prepared programs according to David Ben Gurim right up to Likud and Kadima of now.

The practice of “decapitation and extermination” process is truly underway.

In conjunction with occupation of Golan height, the most recent pre-arranged attack on Lebanon’s towns and villages-with more than a 1000 civilians being murdered and estimated $100 billions of destroyed homes but then responds to its critics with screeching loud cries of “anti-Semitism and Jew-haters” - it is in effect saying that these acts are not the Zionist acts, they are Jewish acts: The occupation is not an Zionist occupation, it is a Jewish occupation, and if you don’t like these things it is because you don’t like Jews!

The” Z” factor                       part 1
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The Host and the Parasite
It has been a very long disturbing and disastrous seven years with catastrophic consequences and yet nothing new and it is fundamentally a continuation of 60- years strategic policy which has been planned and implemented meticulously to achieve its final objectives.

Why the Americans have to face the tragedy of a manipulated great power politics and its far reaching consequences?
Why the “self-selected leaders” have conducted the business of a nation whom put their trust in the hand of pure sickening, sadistic, characters and down right massively organized criminals that have substituted the delegated faith and confidence of a nation with their very own specific ‘given-agenda’ and ulterior motives with full conflict of interest as far as America and Americans are concerned?
who are they and acting on behalf of whom?
You keep asking yourself, searching and looking for clues and answers.
Again and again more questions than answers have been the outcome.
What is happing at home and abroad?
We used to be respected, counted upon, being invited and welcomed.
What has changed so drastically that the same rest of the world being so hateful to us?
Why is that we have been chased and despised everywhere?
Why is that we must pretend that “I am Canadian” when travelling overseas?
Why is that we are shooting at everyone and being targeted by the rest of the world?
Why is that we kill millions and get killed by thousands?
Why that is the mighty green back no longer worth much?
Why is that slightest and the most modest attempts to have a public debate or examining such magnitude and important issues are being savagely attacked, trivialised or simply excluded to the extent that one has to go abroad to get a book published?

It used to be the general policy of ‘United States should act only according to its self-interests’.
Slowly but surely it was changing to the unilateral and militaristic turns that gave us such concepts and its implementations as “pre-emptive wars” ,“benevolent hegemony” , “tailor-made regime change” etc.

But is it not identical to the same principle as”the Zionists’ strategic policy for Middle-East” that has been very precisely published by JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs), along with Center for Security Policy, that “underwritten by far-right American Zionists”?

“regime change’’ by any means necessary in Iraq , Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority is an urgent imperative. Anyone who dissents—be it Colin Powell’s State Department, the CIA or career military officers—is committing heresy against articles of faith that effectively hold there is no difference between US and Israeli national security interests, and that the only way to assure continued safety and prosperity for both countries is through hegemony in the Middle East—a hegemony achieved with the traditional cold war recipe of feints, force, clientism and covert action. The military and strategic alliance between the United States and Israel is of paramount necessity as the cause of Israel is the cause of America”.

There we are: The American government’s internal and foreign policy with the enclosed instruction manual written and printed in the Zionist entity.

Endless amounts of force and fraud.  Endless treacheries.  Endless stupidities. Endless atrocities and cruelties. Heathenish religions, and crooks profiting from it all.  Everybody has a stake in ending it and keeping it.  They are all stupid peasants who think they and their cause is special. When you’ve had a stew on the stove too long, you just throw it out.  But where could you dump all the endlessly festering poisons in this one?.  CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THESE FILTH ARE WORTH RESPECTING?  The U.S. is even worse with its circus of Kissingers, and Neocons, and other traitors.  We should walk away from the stench, but where would we go?  These people can poop up any world.

The ‘truth’ would be that they didn’t seem to need any of the standard ‘arms’ seeing as how they’ve managed to find a way to get what they need to survive without that.

That’s not to say that a ‘home’ under the Mubarack dictatorship would be what the Palestinians would choose, but that’s not the issue right now. The issue is surviving Israel’s treachery and brutality, and staying alive. I’d say they’ve managed that pretty well, with just a bulldozer, and maybe some explosives.

And…Israel gets to be nervous and wring their hands, even more than usual. Like hetzer said, nothing else to steal, so now they get to have some genuine concerns, about holding on to what they’ve already stolen. What irony. No doubt they’re hiding in their bunkers, even though nobody’s bothering them.

And, what a hoot that Libya is now “chairing’ the UN security council. Times do change…oh yeah, even when they stay the same.

Meantime, I’m tickled pink that the Gazans have broken out of their prison, and managed to go and pick up the stuff that they need, things ALL humans deserve to have. Do some shopping, visit the family, etc. Yep, I think it’s great. Or, if not great, it’s a damn sure better than being caged up and starved to death by the Israelis and their 60 year reign of terror.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7210311.stm

This has a ring of truth to it hetzer, on Kissinger that is.

But, I think he’s way too smart to ‘stand out’ much anymore. He pretty much stays more ‘hidden’ than even Cheney. Not much of a choice. There’s a global APB out on him.

Still, that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have masterminded 9/11. I don’t know that he did, but anything is possible.

By Sodium, January 25: “Here another shocker for you… I am not an Anti-Semitic…”

Thanks, Sodium, and there is ever yet another issue in the convoluted machinations of so-called diplomacy in the M.East. Egypt is also trying to keep their border with Gaza closed. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/world/middleeast/26gaza.html?_r=1&8au;&emc;=au&oref=slogin

Hamas is trying to push Egypt into an agreement to regulate the border without having it sealed, as it had been from the time Hamas took over Gaza in early June. A Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said, “The gaps shouldn’t be closed because they provide urgent assistance to the Palestinians.”

But is that issue entirely their own? Perhaps Egypt is under threat from Israel as well as being manipulated by the USA which has promised them a $20 billion military aid deal which they can hardly ignore while the USA is continuing to arm Israel.

Thus, the perceived interests of the nominally Christian fundamantalists in the USA are still dictating terms in the M.East, no matter how ludicrous they really are. That there is hardly anything “Christian” in their actions never dawns on them in their perceived fantasising over the stupid concept of a “holy land” belonging exclusively to the Jews.

And even more stupid.

All the crooks on all the sides will sell them for food.  There will be nothing left for Israelis to steal.

By truthdweller, January 24; “I don’t have a problem arming the Palestinians…”

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Weeelllllll, “dwelling in truth” didn’t last for long, eh???

I don’t have a problem arming the Palestinians. Why the hell not? We’ve armed everybody else in the region..

Crooks use force and fraud to rule.  The human race is divided into crooks, suckers (who believe in them), and lazy cowards who endure them.  I would suggest Kissinger as the greatest Jewish crook of the last century (He would have been a vicious crook in any religion including Republicanism).  His slaughterings were everywhere, from Chile and the rest of South America to Cambodia and Indonesia.  He was the ultimate filth of the New World takeover.  He may have even been the mastermind of 911.  If you are looking for one evil genius who really stands out, Kissinger is your guy.

Actually, the idea that the Palestinians should be exterminated appears to have been thought by Ariel Sharon. 

In 1983, Sharon is credited with having said the following:  “Leibowitz is right; we are Judeo-Nazis, and why not?...now don’t be shocked.  If they (the founders of Israel) instead had killed six million Arabs here or even one million, what would have happened?  Sure, two or three nasty pages would have been written in the history books, we would have been called all kinds of names, but we could be here today as a people of 25 million…”
Sharon as quoted by Amos Oz, who is an Israeli journalist.  This is from an interview for the Jewish “Les voix d’Israel,” Calmann-Levy, Paris.  Translated by Guy Seniak.  The interview is on pages 79-91.
He then goes on to vow to “kill as many Arabs as I can…”
And our current president, George W. Bush, called Sharon “a man of peace.”

And Stupid.

There are many Israelis who deplore the actions of their government, just as I deplore the actions of my government nowadays.  But the Israelis who are sympathetic toward the Palestinian plight are few in number compared to the majority, which thinks the Palestinians are less than human and want them all dead or gone from the area.  So long as truly good people remain a minority in Israel (and the USA) both Israel & the US will continue down the wrong path—and both will eventually suffer the consequences of letting evil men obtain power.
http://www.gush-shalom.org
http://www.democracynow.org

By 2000, the Republicans, Israel and Saudi Arabia had stolen 90 percent of the United States.  By 9-11 they were able to celebrate this fact by producing a snuff film.

Moralizing is alway cheaper than smarts - #By hetzer, January 24: “The Israelis…. Why didn’t they come to New York…”

Let them eat sushi, hetzer!

You speak for “the people’s of the world”.  Are you kidding me?  Moralizing is alway cheaper than smarts.  My dog got out of the yard the other day.  That earned him a longer rope, that I can step on.  Your cynicism comes too cheap.  I don’t think it is honestly earned.  There are no good guys in this whorehouse of the world.  It is always bad guys versus bad guys.  Everyone will do anything for a bigger tip.

The Israelis are the stupidest people on earth, except for the Americans.  They were conned by Zionists and Anti-semitics into believing that another death camp was good for them.  Why didn’t they come to New York?

January 24, 2008
Hole in the Wall
Power to the (Palestinian) People!

By JEFF HALPER

“The people of Palestine have done it again, taking their own fate in their hands after being let down by their own “moderate” political leadership and, indeed, the entire international community in their struggle for freedom. Early this morning they simply blew up the wall separating Gaza from Egypt, breaking a siege imposed on them by an Arab government in collaboration with Israel.

We, the peoples of the world, should take great pride and encouragement in this quintessentially civil society refusal to accept subjugation, to abandon their fate to governments, including their own, for whom the lives of ordinary people are simply grist for their political charades—Annapolis and its subsequent “peace process” being but the last cynical expression. For the Palestinians represent far more than just themselves. Their refusal to submit to the dictates of governments, or to governments’ lack of interest in the well-being of people in general, reflects the desire of billions of oppressed people for identity, freedom, a decent life and actualization of their collective and individual rights and potentials. Most of the oppressed, the “wretched of the earth” as Franz Fanon called them a half-century ago, are too preoccupied with the daunting daily struggle for survival to organize and resist. Others do resist in a myriad of ways, but are most often repressed by their own political and economic “leaders,” disappearing anonymously from view. In a few cases they have managed to mount effective resistance to oppression, even to prevail—though the billions spent on “counterinsurgency” warfare by the US, Europe, Russia, Israel and many “developing” nations augur ill for peoples attempting to overthrow oppressive regimes.

In this the Palestinians stand at the forefront, in the front lines of peoples’ insistence everywhere that their rights, well-being and fundamental values as human beings be respected by governments. And they do so (and I write this as an Israeli with great sorrow and shame) against one of the world’s strongest and most ruthless military powers—a power that has dispossessed them from 85% of their land, which is trying to transform its occupation into a permanent regime of apartheid, which has spent decades impoverishing and disenfranchising them; the fourth largest nuclear power which nevertheless casts itself as the victim. Not only have the Palestinians experienced the dehumanization all oppressed and colonized peoples experience, not only have they been made into the embodiment of the rich and powerful’s greatest fear, evil “terrorists” who may tear down their privileged “civilization,” but they have been turned into guinea pigs. Israel is able to gain an edge in the counterinsurgency industry and win entree into the heart of the American military/hi tech complex by turning the Occupied Territories into a laboratory for the development of fiendish weaponry and tactics intended for use against people.

And yet the Palestinian people—and in particular those who remain sumud, steadfast, in Palestine—continue not only to resist but to surprise and confound its would-be Israeli master at every turn. Despite unlimited control, a complete monopoly over the use of force, utter callousness and a vaunted Shin Beit, Israel’s military intelligence, Palestinians vote as they want, resist, carry on their daily lives with dignity—and blow huge holes in the walls and policies constructed in order to imprison and defeat them.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/halper01242008.html

Survival of Palestine is not viable - #By A Khokar, January 24: “This world has to come forward to arm Palestinian with some potent arsenal that they at least can be at par… to archiac rival Israel…”

Well, for a start, Israel is NOT an “archaic rival”, AK. The three Abrahamic religions and the various ethnic groups managed to live together before the British, the Europeans and the Americans re-arranged borders and decided their fate for them following the end of the Turkish Ottoman empire.

You should know that because that is also more or less how your beloved Pakistan came into existence as a separate state. The arrival of millions of European Jews did nothing to help. Obviously, you have no understanding of the term “land-grab” although your people continue to fight over the Kashmir you lost.

The whole point IS that the world came forward to arm Israel step by step and this is the result. Now, they will find a way to re-start the 1960’s confrontation with Egypt over the Gaza refugee issue. You know how the game is played between India and Pakistan. There is peace if they want it - or there is conflict if they want it.

The only variable is the influence of outside forces such as the USA. The whole game is played according to how they wish to tilt the playing field (their rules). Of course, you are a war-monger yourself and you would like to see the armaments industry profit from such affairs. Perhaps you sell/supply arms yourself?

They say: Offence is the Best Form of Defence; Survival of Palestine is not viable till Palestinian posses some real deterring means to ward off the Israeli oppression. Returning the Israeli aggression in equal coins is the only option. This world has to come forward to arm Palestinian with some potent arsenal that they at least can be at par (to a certain degree) to archiac rival Israel. This will make the Palestinian feel more confident as well as responsible to conduct their affairs with ease.  It may also stop the irritating and ill aimed sporadic rockets firing by Palestinian which is jeopardising the lives of many Israelis.

Bangkok Expatriate, try to make sense, please. Occupiers and ethnic cleansers are by definition the aggressors and have no right to self-defense. Those who resist occupation and ethnic cleansing can never be the aggressors.

The conundrum here is that by the same international legal conventions, Israel has the right to self defense when attacked by an aggressor, which these militants are, irrespective of the right an occupied people have to fight their oppressors.

It is equally a futile business, a no win situation for both sides, which is the point I was trying to make, and you have ignored.

The conundrum here is that by the same international legal conventions, Israel has the right to self defense when attacked by an aggressor, which these militants are, irrespective of the right an occupied people have to fight their oppressors.

It is equally a futile business, a no win situation for both sides, which is the point I was trying to make, and you have ignnored.

Response to Howard’s post @ January 23 3:52 am

My apologies for the thoughtless remark about Zionist attack dogs.

I like dogs, even attack dogs, and should never have disparaged them by equating them with Zionists, even in the abstract. My apologies to all attack dogs everywhere.

I knew that some Zionist would respond to my post by calling me a racist. Zionists are racists, not a race, Howard, although you would have us believe otherwise.

But thanks for sparing me the de rigor “anti-Semite” slur. While KKKrs, Nazis and Zionists judge others based on race, I judge people based only on their actions. I will defend any victim of racist persecution, and so should you. Judging from your previous posts, you don’t.

For example, the garbage you posted on January 22 at 11:48 am: “Gaza is entirely full of a citizenry that can do anything positive to start improving their own lives. Let is see what they can do of a positive nature, eh? Stop blaming the Israelis who would love to help them. No one else will in the Mid East. They’re living off the dole of the rest of the world for food etc. Thousands of Gazans worked in Israel until their wacko Hamas leaders bombed the crossing points.”

As for Walt and Mearsheimers’ book getting well-panned by the critics: it’s true that their book has flaws; the authors pull some of their punches against the Jewish State, as I pointed out in my original post. Try reading Jonathan Cook’s books if you want the whole truth.

It’s hard to imagine anyone who says things like “goodness gracious,” and “wowzer” in his posts, as you do, peddling the lies you do in an attempt to defend the indefensible. Why don’t you take your defense of Israeli ethnic cleansing to a more receptive audience, such as AIPAC, WINEP, or the ZOA?

Hetzer writes:

“It is quite possible that Israelis are behind the rocket attacks on their own territory, so they can keep their endlessly divided population on the march and gullible.”

That’s a classic.

And you believe the 9-11 attacks were an inside job, too, of course…......

I understand the moralizing.  The best thing about it is that it makes one feel superior while doing something that is almost worse than useless.

The real problem with violence and cruelty is that it is always a desperately stupid gamble.  Next time the dice may be loaded against you.  Most cards of violence are well marked by crooks.  It takes smarts to see this.  The real war is always against stupidity in all its forms.

Isn’t it nice to be conned by someone doing something useful?  It is always good to do something for kids, of course.  Then you can use them for targets later.  Passive aggressive behavior is the hallmark of cruelty and abuse.

Wake up, grow up, commit to work (and yearn) for Peace, Please…...

.......At war with oneself, there can be no Peace with others…....

....................Strive On, Humanity…Strive On!.......................

Warmly,
Gramma

Gazan Hearts Saved in Israel as Conflict Rages

With violence along Israel’s southern border escalating, a hospital in Israel offers a ray of hope for a handful of seriously ill Gazans. “This child would have died without surgery,” said Dr. Alona Raucher-Sternfeld, looking at the small Palestinian baby, Jamal, and the echo machine checking his heart. Six-month-old Jamal came with his grandmother from Dir al-Balah in Gaza to get a check-up on Jan. 15 at Wolfson Medical Center near Tel Aviv. Jamal was operated on there when he was two months old, suffering from two heart defects.

  The surgery, hospital stay and logistics in bringing him out of Gaza were coordinated and partially funded by Save a Child’s Heart, an Israeli humanitarian organization, with some EU donations.

In 2007, 128 Palestinian children from the West Bank and Gaza, all suffering from heart conditions, were treated by the program. Col. Nir Press, head of the Israeli coordination and liaison administration in Gaza, said the number of permits to Israel issued for medical reasons had risen 50% in 2007. (ReliefWeb-UN)

You are only half right.  Everybody is sub-human.  The human race is a terrible mistake.  The Israelis just haven’t figured it out yet.

A crook with a sense of irony.  Not all Zionists are totally stupid.

Wonderful,
  now Egypt can help them start a viable country (?) They were in charge of Gaza until they disowned it after the ‘67 war.  right on.

On Gaza.
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How to implement Collective Extermination of one and a half million Palestinian people.
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“Gaza’s grave diggers are busy. More than 85 Palestinians - mainly due to kidney failure, cholera and Israeli air strikes”- have died since last week” BBC.

1-Sinking Gaza into a sea of darkness, poverty, despair and death condemning them to devastation, and visiting imminent death upon hundreds of kidney dialysis and heart patients, prematurely born babies, and all others dependent on electric power for their very survival.
2-By freezing fuel and electric power supplies to Gaza, the Zionists, the occupying agents, essentially guaranteeing that “the most heavily contaminated” water—as Gaza’s water is perhaps the most polluted in the whole region, after decades of the Zionists’ theft and being deliberately polluted —will be consumed and properly distributed to homes and institutions.
3-Hospitals will not be able to function adequately, leading to the eventual death of many, particularly the most vulnerable.
4- Whatever factories that are still working despite the siege will now be forced to close, pushing the already extremely high unemployment rate even higher.
5- Sewage treatment will come to a halt; further polluting Gaza’s precious little water supply, if any.
6- Academic institutions and schools will not be able to provide their usual services.
7- Lives of all civilians will be severely disrupted, if not irreversibly damaged by contaminated food and malnutrition.

Meanwhile the Zionists’ dance groups, singing bands and orchestras are touring European cities and spreading their “culture”, knowing that soon there would be more land available to build upon, upon the biggest mass grave yard that has been witnessed in history.

Wow, the wall is finally DOWN!!!

Tens of Thousands of Palestinians Flood Into Egypt Through Breached Gaza Wall…..

Palestinians cross the border after militants exploded the separated wall between Gaza Strip and Egypt, seen background, in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2008. Masked Palestinian gunmen breached the Gaza-Egypt border wall Wednesday, and thousands of Gazans trapped in their territory by a tight blockade poured into Egypt to buy food, fuel and other supplies that have become scarce. Egyptian border guards and Hamas police took no action as Palestinians hurried over the border and began returning with bags of food, boxes of cigarettes and plastic bottles of fuel. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4175115

Quite an obvious racist statement - #By Howard, January 23: ”...that statement typifies you’re lacking of reading ‘anything ‘ let alone history…”

You are known for your own distortions, Howard. Intentionally misinterpreting peoples’ words and aviding other more inconvenient truths is your style.

This time, though, Ostrogoth, January 23, was actually referring to what I had posted in reply to “lilmamzers” racist-supremacist statement re Jews/Israel, January 22: “we are GOD’S chosen people—hence all others are sub-human…”

Now, answer that AND my response to it below, thanks!

RE:  By Ostrogoth, January 23 at 2:56 am #
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Ostrogoths says:

““As for the Zionist attack dogs that post on this forum, they deserve no more respect than KKK or Nazi Party fanatics “”

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Quite an obvious racist statement in itself.  Goodness gracious.  I’ve heard of irrationality, but wowzer !that statement typifies you’re lacking of reading ‘anything ’ let alone history.  Besides your misguided post.

Walt & Mersheimers book has been well-been panned for being inaccurate on the history of the ME.

I’m currently reading Walt and Mearsheimer’s “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.” It’s well-written and generally well-researched, although one of the authors’ fundamental conclusions doesn’t follow from all the damning data they provide about the creation of the “Jewish State.” They carefully document that Israel was established largely through terror tactics aimed at driving Palestinians off their own land, and then assert that Israel has a right to exist.

A conclusion that begs the key question in the ME conundrum: exist as what? As a racist theocracy? Or as an integrated, secular democracy—a proposition anathema to Zionist racists because of the so-called Arab “demographic threat.”

I use the term “racist theocracy” advisedly. How else would you describe a society that restricts citizenship based on racial and religious qualifications? On page 88, Walt and Mearsheimer write “While Israel’s citizens are of many backgrounds, including Arab, Muslim, and Christian, among others, it was explicitly founded as a Jewish state, and whether a citizen is regarded as Jewish ordinarily depends on kinship (verifiable Jewish ancestry).” The footnote to this text states: “According to the Law of Return, a ‘Jew’ is defined as ‘a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has become converted to Judaism and who is not a member of another religion.’”

On the same page, the authors also state: “In addition to Israel’s commitment to maintaining its Jewish identity and its refusal to grant de jure equality for non-Jews, Israel’s 1.36 million Arabs are de facto treated as second-class citizens.”

And: “Israel’s treatment of its Arab citizens is more than just discriminatory. For example, to limit the number of Arabs in its midst, Israel does not permit Palestinians who marry Israeli citizens to become citizens themselves and does not give these spouses the right to live in Israel. The Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem called this restriction ‘a racist law that determines who can live here according to racist criteria.’” (p. 88-89)

Is there any other country in the world that is so blatantly racist and theocratic? Yet Zionists never fail to smear all their critics as racist “anti-Semites.” The best defense is a good offense, but they’ve been getting away with this con for over sixty years. Enough.

We’ll never have any peace in the ME until Palestinian refugees are allowed to return to their land and property. Let the Zionists assimilate the Arab refugees into Israel and coexist with them. Or the Zionists can leave. Up to them.

As for the Zionist attack dogs that post on this forum, they deserve no more respect than KKK or Nazi Party fanatics.

This… which is of course the point - #By cyrena, January 23: “Well no moron, it’s NOT the solution, it’s the PROBLEM, because the people there are living under OCCUPATION…”

For a tutor in law and uhh…justice, cyrena, you have produced such a failure in your weak argument that no court would take any notice of you. All you have done is to try to prove that you have as little understanding as most Americans who have been brainwashed by the media.

Your distortion of my statement that “Palestine/the West Bank is NOT the solution to the crisis in the M.East…” is pathetically distracting, to say the least. It is also as inaccurate as your language is offensively abusive.

Believe it or not, the MIDDLE EAST is NOT Israel or the usurped state of Palestine. It ranges from Egypt to Iran and includes some 16 countries and emirates depending on how many you want include. East of the Red Sea, it is all West Asia, actually.

The European term, “the Middle East”, once also included the regions of India and Pakistan which are now known as SOUTH ASIA and a few others such as Algeria now known as NORTH AFRICA - so check this map - http://psfaculty.ucdavis.edu/zmaoz/intpolme.htm

Thus, my statement is categorically correct - despite the aspersions of the most ignorantly hypocritical African-American pseudo-free-rights advocate ever to blog here on Truthdig. You of all people, cyrena, should know your geography a lot better.

To reiterate, the REAL PROBLEM is the USA’s interferences in the region and particularly in Eye-Rak and viz-a-viz their support of their beloved Un-Christian Israel and the poverty and suffering it causes.

But, more to the point of your offensive remarks, you have stupidly gone out of your way to AVOID responding intelligently to my critisicm of “lilmamzer’s” post, himself an ardent supporter of the Israeli/Zionist position.

To repeat:- #why I post here - By lilmamzer, January 22: “we are GOD’S chosen people—hence all others are sub-human…”

Nice to know the REAL Jewish/Zionist ideology at last, thanks, lilmamzer. Exactly IDENTICAL to the NAZIS!!!

No doubt “all others are sub-human” also refers to the stupid fuckin’ Americans, black, white, whatever, who provide the US$ billions in aid to Israel every year and fawn over them in their pseudo-Christian churches.  LOL!!!

This from the article, which is of course the point….

•  Collective abuse is the most potent recruiting tool in the hands of radicals, as we saw after the indiscriminate Israeli bombing of Lebanon and the American occupation of Iraq. The death of innocents and collective humiliation are used to justify callous acts of indiscriminate violence and revenge. It is how our own radicals, in the wake of 9/11, lured us into the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

So, please forgive me for pointing out the obvious, as has Chris, since it would seem that most have missed it. Chalmers claims there IS NO ‘crises’ :

•  “Despite what we are constantly told, Palestine/the West Bank is NOT the solution to the crisis in the M.East.”

Well no moron, it’s NOT the solution, it’s the PROBLEM, because the people there are living under OCCUPATION, collective punishment, humiliation, and the worst of everything that can be bestowed upon the human condition.

•  For a start, there is NO crisis. It is a couple of regional issues only. One is the US support of Israel and the trouble it causes. The other is the US invasion of Iraq and the trouble it causes.

OK, now the next line here says that there really IS NOT a crisis. (so, first we get that Israel/Palestine conflict is not the solution to the crises in the ME, and then he tells us that there really isn’t a crises anyway. I guess my middle-aged mind must be confused.)

So, all of that ethnic cleansing and genocide that’s been on going for 60 years…no problem? What crises? Just those millions that are caged up in an open air prison, who have NO right to self-determination? NO way to DEFEND THEMSELVES against Israeli aggression…Well, that’s nothing…just a couple of ‘regional issues’ is all.

Who’s worried? Not GWB, and not Douglas Chalmers either. Just a couple of regional issues.
Ah…but then there’s the reality. There’s the reality that the ‘terrorists’ have addressed all too frequently…The never ending US support of Israel in it’s ongoing aggression against the Palestinians, noted by, among others, Osama bin Laden himself. (even Chalmer’s recognizes this, after saying that there is no crises).

Now that wasn’t his only complaint of course, since the US imperial hubris has been a complaint by the nations of the middle east (and others) for decades.
But in the end, refer back to the basics. Violence begets violence. It’s unfortunate that something so simple, has escaped the Israelis for so long. They wanna be right so bad, that they’re willing to be DEAD RIGHT. Perfectly willing to sit in misery for the rest of their days, running to bunkers to escape those oversized soda bottles they call rockets. Or…send in what is the most fully equipped military on the globe, tankers, airplanes, etc, etc, to wipe out those kids throwing those rocks.

How can anyone not see Israel for the enormous cowards that they are. BUT, they’re certainly RIGHT, because of course, MIGHT always makes RIGHT. Too bad it doesn’t accomplish anything else.

Frankly, what goes on in Gaza and generally between the Palestinians and the Israelis is no different than yesteryear’s terrorism conducted by the IRA in Northern Ireland.

Palestinians shoot missiles into Israel.  Israel retaliates by closing its borders and stopping food and fuel shipments.  Palestinians and Arab league cries foul and humanitarian disaster while routinely ignoring the illegal actions of the militants.  Israel defends its position by stating it has the right to self-defense.  And so it goes on and on, and on….

The only solution is political dialog including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.  But realistically that can only happen if both of these terrorist groups officially renounce their stated goals of destroying the sovereign State of Israel.

EU comments criticizing Israel for “collective punishment” are disingenuous. It will do little encourage the Arab League to force the militants to back down.  It is a clear demonstration of brown-nosing to maintain open access to oil reserves.

#“The beauty of violence is that it is such a wonderful crap shoot….” By Blackspeare, January 22: “Hetzer makes an interesting point.  The whole concept of insurgency/terrorism can be explained in terms of money.  There’s always money available to support an insurgency and to some it’s a career goal.  Better to be a terrorist than work for a pittance in Said’s grocery…....  As for Israel and probably unbeknown to most is that they are in an economic boom thanks to terrorism.  Their security and military industries are in demand and are basically recession proof…”

Well, Israel most probably won’t survive this recession, Blackspeare. Its a recession in the USA, not Israel so they and their precious AIPAC will be in trouble - and especially when a new US president is elected (as long as it isn’t Obama!?!?).

Despite what we are constantly told, Palestine/the West Bank is NOT the solution to the crisis in the M.East.

For a start, there is NO crisis. It is a couple of regional issues only. One is the US support of Israel and the trouble it causes. The other is the US invasion of Iraq and the trouble it causes.

But terrorism in the region is putting a thorn in Israel’s side just as Israel is a thorn that the USA is putting in the Arab/Persian/Turkish nations’ sides for its own selfish reasons.

The only difference is that the terrorists in Israel and other places like Pakistan are all in uniform - funded courtesy of the USA’s international “aid” programs. How long have Americans allowed such misuse of “aid”???

#why I post here  - By lilmamzer, January 22: “we are GOD’S chosen people—hence all others are sub-human…”

Nice to know the REAL Jewish/Zionist ideology at last, thanks, lilmamzer. Exactly IDENTICAL to the NAZIS!!!

No doubt “all others are sub-human” also refers to the stupid fuckin’ Americans, black, white, whatever, who provide the US$ billions in aid to Israel every year and fawn over them in their pseudo-Christian churches. LOL!!!

Obviously Palestinians are not particularly smart if they are the ones firing rockets into Israel. It does help to unify their followers when Israel always replies with overwhelming stupidity.  Besides it must be fun for them to annoy the nation that has invented every possible excuse for treating them like animals and stealing their land.

Auto thieves in Israel take stolen cars to Palestinian territory to be stripped.  These crooks without borders seem to get along pretty well.  It is quite possible that Israelis are behind the rocket attacks on their own territory, so they can keep their endlessly divided population on the march and gullible.

Israel has a long criminal history from its founding, and it does not hesitate to use the powers of force and fraud anywhere in the world.  It is a classic paranoid megalomaniac power.  A complete country that constantly feeds its own insanity.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni (a certified babe) said this today:

“‘Inconceivable for Palestinians to fire rockets on Israel and then ask for our help,’ says foreign affairs minister Livni as UN Security Council deliberates proposed condemnation of Israel for its response to Qassam barrages”

You go, Tzipi! Jews will always have the right to defend themselves against Islamist genocidal death-cults like Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It always better to be right than popular. Fuck the dictatorship of Libya and it’s debasement of the UN Security Council.

She just kicks diplomatic ass while the “Palestinian” Arabs are mutilating the genitals of their young girls.

   
Now this is worthy of posting:
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Franco Frattini, European Commissioner for Justice Freedom and Security, says at Herzliya Conference that Israel has right to defend itself against Qassam rockets, expresses regret at EU treatment of Israel.

Frattini also issued a massive mea culpa to the State of Israel on behalf of the European community for its treatment of Israel during the second Intifada.

“There has been a large misunderstanding in recent years between Europe and Israel. And Israel is justified in its concerns. For too long, Europe has put too much blame on Israel for lack of peace with the Palestinians. We, as Europeans, should have understood Israel’s concerns sooner,” said Frattini.

The European official also noted that “as friends, it was our duty to criticize when we felt criticism was needed, but we did it too often and unfairly. We asked you to take risks and often we didn’t provide you with assurances that you wouldn’t stand alone if things went badly.”

Frattini continued to say that, “Europe’s attitude towards Israel is changing, and Europe better Today, Europe better understands the complexities of the Middle East landscape.”

“Better to be a terrorist than work for a pittance in Said’s grocery.”

That’s exactly the problem - the “Palestinian” Arabs would rather kill the Jews than improve their own lives and build their own state.

we are GOD’S chosen people—hence all others are sub-human

LOL!!!

hetzer said, “The beauty of violence is that it is such a wonderful crap shoot.  You kill some and then they kill some.  A lot of money is made.”

Hetzer makes an interesting point.  The whole concept of insurgency/terrorism can be explained in terms of money.  There’s always money available to support an insurgency and to some it’s a career goal.  Better to be a terrorist than work for a pittance in Said’s grocery.  As for Israel and probably unbeknown to most is that they are in an economic boom thanks to terrorism.  Their security and military industries are in demand and are basically recession proof!

The beauty of violence is that it is such a wonderful crap shoot.  You kill some and then they kill some.  A lot of money is made.

The Zionist New Republic should quit complaining.  That is what Palestinians are doing:  retaliating against attacks from the Zionists.

After your insults, you laugh.  A gentile has to explain Judaism.  What a joke.  All anger and not smarts.

The Israeli’s are not doing anything to them.  They are free to start their own place in the sun. When they are more interested in their own children instead of trying to kill Israeli’s it will be the first step.

Gaza is entirely full of a citizenry that can do anything positive to start improving their own lives. Let is see what they can do of a positive nature, eh?  Stop blaming the Israelis who would love to help them. No one else will in the Mid East. They’re living off the dole of the rest of the world for food etc.  Thousands of Gazans worked in Israel until their wacko Hamas leaders bombed the crossing points.

When the terrorist rockets stop falling on Israeli towns in the Negev and the “Palestinian” Arabs of Gaza care about improving their own lives more than they care about killing Jewish men, women, and children, there can be peace.

Until then, Gaza Delenda Est and the sooner the better.

Probably one of the best commentaries on the dynamics going on in Palestine for those interested is Manuel Valenzuela’s “The Untermensch Syndrome: Israel’s Moral Decay”.  Very good writing and puts everything in its proper perspective. It is truly horrifying what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians.  If these are not crimes against humanity, then what are?

http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2006/07/untermensch-syndrome-israels-moral.html

They’re criminals plain and simple.  And they’re as dirty as the day is long.  From the Cannonfire site:

“Antifascist Calling…

An explosive new report describing the FBI and Justice Department’s cover-up of American, Turkish and Israeli involvement in A.Q. Khan’s nuclear black market smuggling network has been published by London’s Sunday Times.

The Times’ Insight Team reports:

THE FBI has been accused of covering up a key case file detailing evidence against corrupt government officials and their dealings with a network stealing nuclear secrets.

The assertion follows allegations made in The Sunday Times two weeks ago by Sibel Edmonds, an FBI whistleblower, who worked on the agency’s investigation of the network.

According to Edmonds, the FBI was investigating…

...a Turkish and Israeli-run network that paid high-ranking American officials to steal nuclear weapons secrets. These were then sold on the international black market to countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

A key case file has now gone missing.”

The article in its entirety:  http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/01/nuclear-black-market-cover-upnew.html

The link to the site, “Against all Enemies” at the bottom of the article, is excellent also. An excerpt:

“It appears that after five years the government’s new plan to ‘deal with Sibel’ was to start a new whisper campaign, telling journalists that she stumbled onto a top secret covert operation! Of course, if any of the ostensible targets of this purported sting operation has ever read my blog then they’d have realized what was going on and extricated themselves from the operation years ago. Every possible ‘target,’ and every intelligence agency in the world will be aware of the details of this case - so there’s no possible legitimate justification for keeping the whole thing under wraps any more, except to shield the guilty from accountability for their crimes.”

And:
“Many, if not most, covert operations deserve to be disclosed by a free press. They are often covert not only because they are illegal but because they are wildly ill-conceived and reckless. “Sensitive” and “covert” are often synonyms for “half-assed” or “idiotic,” as well as for “criminal,” as the pattern of activities revealed by Edmonds would appear to be if it were truly presidentially authorized. These activities persist, covertly, to the point of national disaster because the press neglects what our First Amendment was precisely intended to protect and encourage it to do: expose wrongdoing by officials”

As the article points out, the motive is to establish a Vichy-style regime in Palestine, like what the U.S. has in Iraq.  By the way, that has been the Israeli and U.S. goal since Oslo.  It has been more successful with Abbas in the West Bank than it has in Gaza, where Hamas is dominant.  Some people you just can’t buy.

Source this, or admit you are a liar.  You can’t give a credible source, therefore you are a liar.

Hetzer writes:

The real Jewish homeland is New York. It has always been the Diaspora, not some arid desert land that is so small it doesn’t even show on maps.

It can’t BE a Diaspora unless there is an original homeland, you moron. LMAO!!!!!!!

And that homeland is Israel, and yes, it is tiny, certainly compared to the vast land area of the 21 independent Arab nation-states. And Israel is, once again, sovereign and free, and so she shall remain, genocidal bigots like yourself notwithstanding.

So bite me, Hetzer.

from The New Republic:

Imagine the U.S. tolerating a situation in which there is relentless bombardment from across its border, and the regime there in power not only tolerates it but facilitates it; not only facilitates it, but makes clear that it is a picture of the Israeli future. Not only the U.S., but any and all governments, would respond forcefully, more forcefully than Israel had responded.

from today’s Jerusalem Post:

There is no greater act of “collective punishment” than randomly firing missiles at the homes of innocent Israeli civilians. Where is the concern for the “humanitarian crisis” of Israelis who have had to live under the threat of rocket fire for the last seven years? Power outages cannot compare to the deadly and indiscriminate threat from missiles landing on kindergartens and homes. If Western officials uniformly blamed Hamas instead of amplifying its propaganda, it might be forced to stop its aggression, ending the “humanitarian crisis.”

Shimon Peres has been a member of Israel’s left-leaning Labour Party for decades. Not Likud.

Another sucker from the Likud speaks nonsense.  Most of my Jewish friends have smarts, but they let morons speak for them.  Why?  Because they are cowards.

Shimon Peres, the president of Israel, called it exactly like it is today:

“The (UN Security) Council must ask Hamas why it is firing on children and women in Israel.

The responsibility for the situation in Gaza lies unequivocally on Hamas’ shoulders. There is not one state in the world which will be fired on without retaliating. There is no excuse for the fire and no justification to ignore it.”

Israel is a mad dog created by criminals as an expression of the “special” status of Jews.  It is an anti-semitic dream.  It is a perfect self-imposed concentration camp imagined out of constant fear and arrogance.  After 50 years of military protection rackets, it has lost all reason.  That is why Israel is perhaps the most hated and despised nation on earth. 

The real Jewish homeland is New York.  It has always been the Diaspora, not some arid desert land that is so small it doesn’t even show on maps.

The Gaza “Blackout” and the Laws of War - J. Peter Pham

Although the so-called “Gaza blackout” was instigated by the Hamas terrorists who run the enclave as a sort of cynical publicity stunt, it has drawn the usual dire warnings of impending humanitarian crisis and protests from neighboring Arab countries and the EU. What tends to be forgotten in moments like this is that even if Israel, which supplies more than 75% of the terrorist enclave’s power, did cut off the flow, it would not only be morally but also legally justified in doing so.

As Prof. Michael Krauss of George Mason University Law School and I pointed out last year when Gaza was designated “hostile territory” by the Israeli cabinet: If Gaza is territory under the control of the enemy - as it manifestly is under Hamas - then the Israeli government is both within its rights and arguably obliged by its responsibilities to its citizens to treat the strip as “hostile territory.”
Siege and blockade of a hostile territory is a legitimate tactic of war, used in declared and undeclared (e.g., Cuban) conflicts and explicitly recognized by the 1949 Geneva Conventions. The Conventions’ sole limitation is that there be “free passage of all consignments of food-stuffs, clothing and tonics intended for children under fifteen, expectant mothers, and maternity cases” (Fourth Convention, art. 23).

Even this exception was conditioned on there being “no reasons for fearing… that a definite advantage may accrue to the military efforts or economy of the enemy” (for example, if resources destined for humanitarian aid will be commandeered by the enemy). Israel has carefully respected this requirement.

Notwithstanding the outraged howls from the external enablers of Hamas, there is no basis in international humanitarian law for claiming any belligerent is obliged to supply energy to territory occupied by the enemy, conventional or otherwise.

The writer is director of the Nelson Institute for International and Public Affairs at James Madison University and an adjunct fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

You sound like a two-year-old, Howard.

Driving Bear, since you like driving, kindly drive off the nearest 390 meter cliff!

” Hamas IS democratically elected, uhh!”  By lilmamzer, January 22: ”...what universe do you live in anyway…”

Yes, there are “good people” in Gaza (NONE are Jews) and they expected to get what they deserved as decent human beings anywhere do when they elect a government to represent them.

Pity, then, that the USA-backed Israelis have fostered division as well as a breakdown in access to funding and supplies to destroy their democracy. There is certainly nothing humanitarian about that!

Now that you dirty work is done, you can crawl back in to your little “universe” behind the skirting boards of your house, lilmamzer.

Douglas Chalmers

Well..it certainly seems to me you have them “strategically thinking” with that “Protocols of Zion” statement.  LOL.

Lilmamzer, did you forget to take your pills…..AGAIN!

Thanks to P.T., Douglas Chalmers, Expat and jbart most especially and also to everyone who takes their time and skill to refute such debased and ficticious rhetoric. 

I don’t want to get wishy washy…...OK….I will, but you do this very well, much better than I ever could.  Thanks….........

Chalmers says, “ Hamas IS democratically elected, uhh!”

Well, then the “good people” of Gaza are getting what they deserve when they elect an openly genocidal Islamist death cult to represent them.

Chalmers, what universe do you live in anyway?

200 rocket attacks kill 10 Israelis?  WOW !! These guys are good !! Israel kills 30-something.

Yeah, 10 Israeli civilians, targetted specifically because they are Jews and just regular folks. The 30 Arabs you mentioned were mostly those who were trying to kill the civilians, which makes them terrorists. The fact that you seem unable or unwilling to make that distinction is pathetic, but typical for the TruthDig pro-terror crowd.

By lilmamzer, January 21: “Hedges Is A Hamas Shill…’

Hamas IS democratically elected, uhh!

See what always happens to a topic on Truthdig as soon as the word “Israel” is mentioned? All the “Zionist shills” come screaming to the attack…...

Now, lets see what happens if we mention the words “Protocols of Zion”...????

Israel reduced its military attacks on Gaza.  The Palestinian rocket fire worked.

On Sunday on 5 rockets were fired at Israel and only 4 on Monday. in the 2 days before the blockade 54.
therefore the blockade is working. Also its better than alternative a full scale invasion and bombing of gaza

Expat

you need a history lesson.

First off the blacks in S.A. did not pledge to drive the whites into the sea and kill them all.
However that is the stated position of the PA.

.  Sieg Heil

What I see here in minature, is what has been going on in the middle east for generations, and the world since the beginning.

Trying to make violence and anger seem reasonable, through reason. All violent people have reasons, for their violence, it makes it easier to believe that we aren’t the mindless primitive, but rational sane beings. 

Our arguments or justifications for our acts of violence will never take the sword from the hands of people we call enemies, for they have the same reasons to kill us. The same fears of us, the same justifications.

All countries use reason as a disguise, to hide from their responsibily for hurting, killing making war on somone else.

There is a better war we could fight, and it is in ourselves, and in our own hearts, against our own fears and predjudice, and our belief that reason makes acts of violence acceptable. And it’s not over there, it’s right here, right now.

We all have the power to choose, to consider how hurting others makes us detached from humanity, and to forgive our grievances and think instead of what kind of world we can now make.

Instead of living in the cemetary of the past.

Unless we learn to do this mankind will not survive.

Lilmamzer, your swinish ignorance is appalling.  The Zionist bombing of Christian neighborhoods in Lebanon in the recent war as well as Baruch Goldstein’s attack in the occupied territories are but two examples.

Big surprise there….NOT.

Gaza Delenda Est as long as their reason for being is the genocide of the Jews in the Jewish national homeland.

Gaza Delenda Est

Gaza Delenda Est

Gaza Delenda Est

The Zionists target civilians all the time.

LIAR.

Gaza Delenda Est

Sieg Heil

The Zionists target civilians all the time.

Great response. Indeed !  The IDF does not target civilians like the cowards who fire off rockets and missiles.

The IDF is well known for its great effort to just target the bombers. Forces around the world have trained with the IDF to learn how they minimize damage to the civilian population. The Gazans are lucky and fortunate that the IDF is so utterly restrained. Let them get pissed off at their leaders who have been deluding them for years.

Reducing the electricity or fuel is not the same as cutting it off completely.  Even though I’d do it.  Israel did not do that, however. If the message is received and the rockets are stopped completely a new dawn might happen in Gaza.  Imagine.