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The End of the Road for George W. Bush

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Posted on Jan 13, 2008
Bush at sea
AP photo / David Furst, pool

President Bush, center, listens to Franciscan priests as they overlook the Sea of Galilee in the ancient village of Capernaum, Israel.

By Chris Hedges

The Gilbert and Sullivan charade of statesmanship played out by George W. Bush and his enabler, Condoleezza Rice, as they wander the Middle East is a fitting end to seven years of misrule.  Despots stripped of power are transformed from monsters into buffoons.  And this is the metamorphosis that is eating away at the Bush presidency. 

Bush stood in Jerusalem, uncomfortable and palpably bored.  He mouthed platitudes about a peace settlement that mocked the humanitarian crisis he aided and abetted in Gaza, the rapacious land grab by Israel in the West Bank and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  The diminished George Bush, increasingly irrelevant at home and abroad, is fading into insignificance.  A year from now one half expects to see him stand up at the next president’s inauguration and screech “I’m melting!  I’m melting!” as he sinks into a puddle of slime.  He will return, I expect, to his ranch, where he will be able to spend the rest of his life doing the only task for which he has shown any aptitude—cutting down brush with a chain saw. 

He may yet rise again to torment us with an attack on Iran, condemning more innocents to slaughter.  He and his cigar-smoking soul mate Ehud Olmert would like to go out with one more flash of mayhem and violence.  But even this will not ultimately save him.  Bush will soon be reduced to the cipher he once was, left to spend the rest of his life trying to salvage a legacy of shame and deceit.  In a just world he would be put on trial, if not by the International Criminal Court of Justice then by the U.S. Congress.  He would be forced to face up to his lies and wars of aggression.  But the moral rot that infects the nation has seeped into the bowels of the legislative as well as the executive branch. 

World leaders, including those whom Bush desperately wants to intimidate, now dismiss him.  Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said a few days ago that relations with the United States are of “no benefit to the Iranian nation.  The day such relations are of benefit, I will be the first one to approve of that.”

Bush will have flown from Israel to Palestine to Kuwait to Bahrain to the United Arab Emirates to Saudi Arabia to Egypt in search of a legacy, one that he hopes will lift up his name in history.  But, isolated and deluded, he has yet to grasp that he and the United States are reviled and detested for our violence, arrogance and greed.  The bands played on the tarmac.  He was toasted at state dinners.  But even our allies, including Kuwait and Egypt, know Bush is a danger to himself and others. 

He publicly displayed his inability to connect rhetoric with reality.  He promised peace and cooperation, a new era, a Palestinian homeland.  He promised solutions that will arise from negotiations that do not exist.  Negotiations, in his eyes, are always about to begin.  They were about to begin a year ago.  They were about to begin with Annapolis.  They are about to begin now.  The messy issues between the Israelis and Palestinians that he and his administration have never attempted to address—the borders, the expanding Jewish settlements and outposts, the plight of Palestinian refugees and Jerusalem—will all be seamlessly solved ... one day.  But the brutal reality of the Israeli occupation barrels forward.  The Jewish settlements and outposts continue to be expanded.  The crisis in Gaza, with the cuts in fuel and electricity, the deadly army incursions and airstrikes, has turned the world’s largest walled prison into a swamp of human misery.  And huge new settlements, like Har Homa, continue to rise up on Palestinian soil. 

When Bush met with the Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah he blithely defended the patchwork of Israeli roadblocks that have turned the West Bank into a series of ringed Palestinian ghettos.  The roadblocks, he told Abbas, are necessary for Israeli security.  He announced that the 1949 Green Line, the borders established by the United Nations, would never be restored.  There would be no discussion, he said, of the status of Jerusalem.  And the plight of Palestinian refugees would be solved by setting up an international fund, meaning, of course, that none would ever return.  In short, he offered an unequivocal endorsement of right-wing Israeli policy with not a murmur of dissent.  And the Palestinians can either have it rammed down their throat or rot.  Bush will be back, he has promised, in May to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the founding of the Jewish state.  Olmert, no doubt, will again be fulsome in his praise, which is probably what Bush’s trip to the Middle East is, at its core, really about.  Bush desperately wants someone to pretend with him that he is an agent for peace and statesmanship.  Olmert, who knows the callow American leader will give him everything he desires, is happy to oblige.

But as Bush basks in the glow of his own fantasy, the suffering in Gaza, one of the world’s worst humanitarian disasters, along with the savage occupation of Iraq, continues to fuel widespread anger and rage.  Bush has spent his time in office bolstering the Middle East’s most despotic regimes, including that of Gen. Hosni Mubarak in Egypt.  He approved a $20-billion arms package for these states.  He has backed efforts to crush mainstream Islamic groups that have electoral legitimacy and popular support.  He has stood by as these regimes have stifled democratic dissent, and he has, with Israeli encouragement, isolated governments, even friendly governments, in the Middle East that raised feeble protests.  But his day is past.  There is open revolt.  Opinion polls show that two-thirds of Palestinians, and three-fourths of Israelis, do not believe Bush can affect events in the Palestinian territories.

The agenda of the Bush White House is exposed as irrelevant, myopic and counterproductive.  Most Arab countries are in open defiance of Washington and are actively reaching out to Iran.

“As long as they [Iran] have no nuclear program ... why should we isolate Iran? Why punish Iran now?” Arab League Secretary-General Abu Moussa told The Washington Post.

The chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, is in Iran for talks.  President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad attended December’s Gulf Cooperation Council summit.  The Iranian president attended the just-completed hajj in Mecca at the invitation of the Saudi monarch, King Abdullah.  Tehran is exploring the resumption of diplomatic ties with Egypt, cut since the 1979 revolution, and has offered to cooperate with Cairo in the production of nuclear energy.  And the Syrian and Lebanese governments have ignored Washington’s warnings to sever ties with Hezbollah and Hamas. 

It is the end of the road for George Bush.  The world takes less and less notice of him.  He strutted and swaggered across the stage.  He bellowed and raged.  He plundered and murdered.  And now he wants to be anointed as a peacemaker.  His presidency, like his life, has been a tragic waste.  But he at least he has a life.  There are tens of thousands of mute graves in Gaza, Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan that stand as stark testaments to his true legacy.  If he wants to redeem his time in office he should kneel before one and ask for forgiveness.

Chris Hedges, the former Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times and author most recently of “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America,” can be found every other Monday on Truthdig.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 20 at 5:24 am #
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Michael Shaw, January 19 at

Michael Shaw, January 19 at 9:03 am #

“...most advanced military on the planet?”

Where have I heard that before???

Oh Yeah, I remember back when Hitler and Tojo had the most advanced military ... But the United States with a third rate military machine, and a populous unwilling to fight ANY MORE FOREIGN WARS… kicked their asses.

China has proved (beyond any doubt) that it has the capability to destroy a satellite in space.  Our system depends on these satellites for communication, intelligence, and weapons siting.  It is the weak link in the chain, because with out typical huberous we believed that no un-friendlies had this capability. OOPS big mistake… without these satellites we couldn’t defeat Luxembourg.

One final note… If we were unable to defeat North Vietnam, when we were trying hard, and are unable (in more time than it took to win WW II) stabilize Iraq… Is our military all it is cracked up to be?  or are we being lied to.....yet again?

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By hetzer, January 21 at 3:53 pm #
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Re: Michael Shaw, January 19 at

From what I can tell from the crook media, our military is now largely recruited from gangs, who have the crook experience to do all the slaughtering that we want.  When the upscaled gangs come back, they should make a good foundation for a Nazi SA.  They can work with our mercenary stooges too.

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By Michael Shaw, January 22 at 8:55 am #
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Re: Re: Michael Shaw, January 19 at

I note you’ve read some Stan Goff IE Sowing the Seeds of Fascism. As he’s already mentioned, there are many skinhead types and racialists already a part of the military. These very types, along with other criminal elements were eventually empowered by Adolf Hitler. Add that to Blackwater USA who are now Blackwater International and the fact their CEO is a Christian Right wing fanatic/devout neocon stooge and what you’re suggesting is not improbable. In fact it’s likely. These private security groups aren’t even answerable to the congress and much of Blackwater’s membership are remnants of Pinochet’s fascist regime.

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By Michael Shaw, January 21 at 12:10 pm #
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Re: Michael Shaw, January 19 at

Well CY the fact is we are the most advanced militarily. Our problem in warring is not in crushing a sovereign state, which we did rather quickly in Iraq, although the fact remains, we have never fought a major power since WW2. So your statements may have validity. But forgetting the fact Bush mismanaged the war, I think the real problem lies in maintaining control once the sovereign is gone, then getting our victims to agree with our idea of a free market society, or in other words, complete American corporate hegemony.

Of course in the case of Vietnam we never got Ho. We also didn’t have the technology back then either. The terrain was of course another factor. It’s harder to hide in a desert then a jungle. But one indisputable thing we proved in both wars is that we can inflict millions of casualties on the “enemy” without suffering anywhere near those kinds of losses ourselves.

In the case of Iraq, we thought we could easily fill the vacuum once Saddam was gone. We were obviously mistaken. Also McCain is right when he mentions our military presence being forever in Germany and Japan and Korea. But he doesn’t convey the real reasons why. If he did, his idea of a forever presence in Iraq would be deemed absurd. And of course it is!

Beyond Korea, there really is no reason for an American military presence anymore. In fact there’s no reason for NATO. The Soviets are gone. “Let the Europeans pay for their own defenses,” as they say. The trouble is our defense industry makes so much money out of it, it has less to do with letting the Europeans pay for their own defenses as it has to do with the continued government financing that would disappear as a result.

As for China, they have the technology to shoot down our satellites and they an immense conventional army that dwarfs our own. This means the only way we could fight them and win would be via the use in nuclear weapons. Since they know they cannot defeat us in that arena, it is highly doubtful China would shoot down one of our satellites, unless it was spying over their territory. The recent and periodical showboating of the combined fleets in the sea of China is more than naval maneuvers or war games, it is a blatant show of force directed at China. Even if they one day acquire a nuclear arsenal comparable to our own, it will be the same as it was with the Soviets. Mutually assured destruction will guarantee the peace. The opposite is too horrific to imagine. More importantly it wouldn’t be profitable.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 22 at 6:46 am #
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Re: Re: Michael Shaw, January 19 at

Classified:

Our missle system no longer works without the satellites, and our radio communications system (once based 5 miles from me in Cutler Maine) is being scrapped as we speak.

The next superpower war will be won by the folks who can most quickly disable their opponants computer system.

The Chinese are making most headway here.... BUT I agree their (current) plan does not include world wide expansion, They are poised to take control away from the USA in their sphere.... The turning point will come when they declare (openly) their intention to take the Island formerly called “Formosa”

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By John Higgins, January 19 at 1:20 pm #
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A)Dual Israel/USA citizenship,should we be

A)Dual Israel/USA citizenship,should we be worried ?
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

B) Why is the Vatican so much like Washington ?
http://www.ejpress.org/article/23279

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By Maani, January 20 at 7:37 am #
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Re: A)Dual Israel/USA citizenship,should we be

John:

Re the second article, it is interesting (and suspicious) that the reporters does not even mention why the Vatican and Rome rescinded the licneses, much less provide any comment from them.  Talk about one-sided journalism!  For all we know, there was good reason to revoke those licenses.  I’m not saying there WAS; only that there MIGHT have been, but we don’t know because the reporter did not provide that info.

Peace.

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By Michael Shaw, January 23 at 6:26 am #
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Re: Re: A)Dual Israel/USA citizenship,should we be

Actually hetzer this is what I was thinking about.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/20/5373/

It had to do with crucifixes the church claimed came from Italy when they in fact came from China.

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By Michael Shaw, January 23 at 5:54 am #
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Re: Re: A)Dual Israel/USA citizenship,should we be

hetzer I accidentally hit the report button instead of reply on your post. Sorry about that!

Actually I read another story somewhere about the idolatry sales from the Vatican. I think it came from the NY Times. There is a chain of shops that sell statuettes for the Vatican for an arm and a leg. I think they were manufactured in China using what amounted to slave labor and then sold for like 3000% profit. The story was based on so called tax exemption for non-profits. That and why a charitable organization would extract slave labor to turn a dime.

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By hetzer, January 20 at 8:47 am #
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Re: Re: A)Dual Israel/USA citizenship,should we be

I think the second article was more odd than anything else.  It is very sketchy and just raises questions.  I think that it is kind of odd that the Vatican gives a trade concession to Jews (only) to sell idolatry items.  Maybe it is like an old usury set up, where Christians couldn’t make money with interest.  Anyway, it is a mystery that is probably wrapped in centuries of lies.  Does the Vatican get a kickback?

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By hetzer, January 19 at 8:21 am #
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Thanks, Michael for remembering and communicating the details about Israelis in the pentagon.

I am one of those people who can remember facts exist, but I can never seem to find them when I need them.

I think that after a few years of forced and grueling campaigning, it wouldn’t surprise me that some of the candidates, including Obama, have lost their mind.  Otherwise his comment about Reagan was sincere, ignorant, or shameless pandering.

Direct voting, liars courts, and eliminating the rich are my modest proposals for changing the system.  But, I have confidence that in a nation of crooks, crooks will eventually find a way.  I would like just a few years of freedom from the shameless filth that think they run this country.

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By Michael Shaw, January 19 at 9:03 am #
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Re: Thanks, Michael for remembering and communicating the details about Israelis in the pentagon.

Well hetzer if you’ll note, none of the leading candidates beyond Edwards is addressing the lobby system which is the real problem. Also concerning the war, although all the democrats say they will end it, all of them suggest there will always be a military presence of some kind. Even though Obama said he meant that presence as a way of protecting our embassy, what it really boils down to is we’ve killed a million Iraqi’s to supposedly get one guy (and to steal their oil), so as Kucinich says, we don’t deserve to have an embassy there, we should have an international coalition(UN) to fill the vacuum once we’re gone, we must pay them in retribution to rebuild for the destruction we’ve caused in this unnecessary and illegal war and give them control of their own oil. It will never happen, even though this would be helpful in restoring diplomatic faith in us, not only in Iraq and the Middle East, but in the rest of the world.

The military machine is too profitable, as is stealing a nation’s resources. Also who needs diplomacy when you have the strongest, most advanced military on the planet? Shotgun diplomacy is far more lucrative and another 9/11, as noted by Tommy Franks, will only further seal our fate.

As far as the rich go, I don’t see a need to get rid of them, only muzzle the tremendous power and influence they have unconstitutionally acquired. Since they finance the entire political system, this too will never happen, until the American people wise up and demand it to happen. By the looks of things, they never will. Their lack in understanding how the system really works, along with the distractions in their own personal concerns won’t allow it to. Perhaps after millions are starving on the streets they will finally wise up. Until then expect business as usual regardless of which handpicked puppet gets elected.

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By jojo in toronto, January 20 at 10:53 am #
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Re: Re: Thanks, Michael for remembering and communicating the details about Israelis in the pentagon

Sure cures for the west’s overly rich problem.
-all individuals and companies tax files(returns) be made public on the internet
—no donations of any kind to any is/2b politician
-- no tax breaks funding to Israel

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By Robert, January 19 at 7:16 am #
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Huge Diebold Disparities Uncovered In

Huge Diebold Disparities Uncovered In New Hampshire Recount

Memory cards missing as attorney voices concerns about transparency

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, January 18, 2008

Huge disparities between votes cast on Diebold electronic voting machines and actual hand counted tallies are emerging during the New Hampshire recount, with Hillary Clinton gaining the most from over a hundred unaccounted for votes in one Manchester Ward.

The recount in Manchester’s Ward 5 revealed a disparity whereby establishment candidates received over a hundred ‘black hole’ votes between them that could not be tallied during the hand count.

Diebold Result Hand Count

CLINTON 683 619

EDWARDS 255 217
OBAMA 404 365

At the moment there is no indication of where these extra votes came from, but the figures again cast the accuracy of Diebold voting machines into severe doubt and provide further evidence of the need for a return to hand counted paper ballots only in all federal elections.

(Article continues below)

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/01180 8_diebold_disparities.htm

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By Michael Shaw, January 19 at 10:33 am #
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Re: Huge Diebold Disparities Uncovered In

Well the machinery of Diebold is notoriously well known. So much so they changed their name to “Premier Election Solutions.” Indeed they do, along with other corporations, represent a threat to distorting election results, but they are not the only perversion. The lobby system is even worse and the election “fix” is multifaceted.

When the elect ability of leading candidates is based on how much money they can generate, along with the fact that candidates from both party’s receive campaign finance from the same lobbies, fixing the electoral process in the voting booth may actually fall second to the lobbies, since even is a fair election, the probability in getting a guy in there that favors them over us is very likely.

Because of this, the American people have literally been forced to accept these candidates and basically try to vote for who they believe to be the lesser of two evils. Really there is only one evil. Campaign finance.

Candidates who have a real plan that might benefit all of us and sensibly put us on the right track are shunned by the corporate lobbies who always throw their support to those they believe are the most approachable and will produce the results they want. Of course so do we, but the bottom line is the bottom line. We can’t give them the money the rich can. We send in our contributions ten to twenty dollars at a time. They send in their contributions in the hundreds of thousands and millions.

Another point, candidates and politicians in general spend more time talking to the lobbyists then they do to the average citizen. Their political livelihood depends upon it. So while they listen to these representatives of wealth practically every day, hearing their problems and how they think things should work, the rest of us are basically silenced in the discussion and by the time we become a part of it(at election time), our issues are rarely if ever addressed and when they are, we’re merely spoon fed what we want to hear, promised the sky, then ignored till the next election. Along the way we hear words like “freedom” and “democracy” thrown around. And today, anyone with a notion realizes neither exist.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 19 at 5:43 am #
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By Michael Shaw, January 18

By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 1:46 pm

“Well it was Reagan who destroyed social aid to the poor and replaced a system that had previously catered to the wellbeing of the middle classes, into a system in socialized economics, taking subsidies from the poor and giving it to the richest people in the country, while forcing the rest of us to abide in a market capital system that essentially makes us pay for the subsidies given to the rich. That is precisely why we face the tremendous economic problems we have today. Problems as great as the last Great Depression. Problems that I believe will define themselves as even worse. If Obama really plans on instituting change, doing what Reagan did won’t do it. In fact it makes me wonder if he even has an idea in what he’s talking about!”

Well, Mike, maybe, But Reagan pulled much of his support in two landslide elections from the same people you say he short-changed.

I voted for him in 1980, but had soured on him by 84.

This subject would take far greater space, and more time than I am willing to expend, but it can be argued that aside from Hill-Burton, Social Security, The C.C.C., and C.E.T.A. there have been no “programs for the poor” “welfare” (as we know it) bailed out landlords at a time when there were 10% vacancies in New York City. (when what happened in New York mattered) Food Stamps gifted large supermarket chains and commercial agriculture.

30 years ago, when I first came to Washington County (Maine) there was one social service agency in Machias (POP. 4722) the closest town to where we live, today there are 19… I do not notice any appreciable benefit.

Sure, there is a segment of society which needs “guardianship,” and I know of no conservative who believes we should let these folks starve or freeze. BUT for a time (up here) you could tell who was collecting state aid by driving down the road and observing which trailers had satellite dishes.

Mike Barnicle once noted, in the Boston Globe; “The best social service ever invented is a job which pays a living wage.” It is for this reason that the Two Bush and Clinton administrations have earned this conservative’s ire exporting jobs, importing cheap labor and destroying this country’s manufacturing capability not only keeps poor folks down, it threatens our sovereignty.

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By Michael Shaw, January 20 at 8:33 am #
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Re: By Michael Shaw, January 18

Well CY starving and freezing is what’s happening. The number in homeless has doubled in my community in the past year. It may not be evident in Maine but it certainly is out here in California. I agree with your analogy of Bush and Clinton though. You’re also right that Reagan won sweeping victories, but the voter turnout was the lowest in US history. And how did he get in there? He asked America if we were better off today then we were 5 years ago. And of course that was in the middle of the oil embargo and the Iranian revolution. Then he did a good job in selling that welfare queen-Cadillac crap, blaming the poor(and unions) for all our woes and making even more poor as a result. He sold the idea that the poor were the real culprits, the so called welfare state, yet failed to mention the fact that corporate welfare was 100 times greater. Today it’s a thousand times greater.

And you’re right, we could fill volumes analyzing Reagan. The real question is are we better off today because of Reaganomics. The answer is, that beyond a GDP standpoint, no. In fact we’re far worse off. Now I don’t think that Reagan necessarily meant it to be that way, but that’s the way it turned out. You can never give the rich money and expect it to trickle down to the poor. Reagan began this socialist economy for wealth by taking away the so called nanny state to the poor and making it a nanny state for the rich. And if he were alive today, I doubt he’d recall that either.

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By Maani, January 20 at 10:00 am #
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Re: Re: By Michael Shaw, January 18

And let’s not forget that Reagan virtually bankrupted the country in his (admittedly successful) attempt to bankrupt Russia via the arms race.  He put us a trillion dollars in debt for the first time in U.S. history.

As an aside, that debt remained (i.e., was only minimally paid down) until...Bill Clinton paid it down in full, and left the country with a multi-billion dollar surplus for the first time in history (which Bush squandered in less than two years!).

Peace.

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By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 1:46 pm #
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IE Col. Karen

Patrick Henry, I agree! I’d like to add too that Bush and his legacy will never go away as long as the system remains as it is. It must be changed!

Speaking of which, the other day I heard one of the “change” candidates, (Obama) mention Ronald Reagan as being the greatest instrument of economic change we’ve ever seen. More so than Bill Clinton, more so then Carter. Although in a general, unexplained sense this is very true, he then basically went on to say he would address our economic problems in the same way Reagan did.

Well it was Reagan who destroyed social aid to the poor and replaced a system that had previously catered to the wellbeing of the middle classes, into a system in socialized economics, taking subsidies from the poor and giving it to the richest people in the country, while forcing the rest of us to abide in a market capital system that essentially makes us pay for the subsidies given to the rich. That is precisely why we face the tremendous economic problems we have today. Problems as great as the last Great Depression. Problems that I believe will define themselves as even worse. If Obama really plans on instituting change, doing what Reagan did won’t do it. In fact it makes me wonder if he even has an idea in what he’s talking about!

As for Karen getting a medal, she should get one but never will. She is merely another incorruptible element, a whistle blower in the midst of an entirely corrupt system. Bush will be rotting in the ground for centuries before we ever see and end to it. That is of course unless an act of God comes along and ends it sooner.

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By cyrena, January 18 at 10:30 pm #
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Re: IE Col. Karen

There is a piece I’ve just read on Truthout, regarding these latest comments from Obama on Regan. In in, John Edwards is taking him to task on that very thing. He (John Edwards) probably does a better job of it that most on this blog.

I certainly can’t answer for whatever Obama may be thinking in saying such. I don’t think most of us who were around at the time, had anything other than distain for his policies, but Obama is younger. I have no idea how much he has considered of what he’s actually saying, in evoking Reganomics.

So, I’m inclined to argee with Jaki, and pretty overwhelmingly. He’s caught up in the game of it all, and that’s what concerned me about him from the beginning. It’s next to impossible to avoid the the bumps of the high wire political balance when one is trying to satisfy the ideologies and concerns of such a diverse population, and at a time when the whole damn lot of us are hanging on the edge.

Still, I would agree that bringing Regan’s MO into this, isn’t gonna help him.

Here’s the link to the piece I mentioned.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011808N.shtml

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By Maani, January 19 at 7:29 am #
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Re: Re: IE Col. Karen

All:

Thought the following might interest you:

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk:80/index.php?storyID=12068

Peace.

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By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 11:10 pm #
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Re: Re: IE Col. Karen

I can agree with that. But frankly I see the whole election process as a staged facade, a corporate side show and beauty pageant. The special interests have all of them in their pockets and since these very groups are what led us down this disparate path, I see little hope that things will ever get better, only worse. Also I think the candidates that present any remote chance in producing real change are Kucinich and Edwards in that order. And while our economy teeter totters to the brink, we need candidates to be very clear about what they’re going to do about it. Also and perhaps more importantly have the balls to actually do what needs to be done. I’ll believe it when I see it. Somehow I suspect I’ll be long gone before I do.

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By Maani, January 18 at 7:34 pm #
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Re: IE Col. Karen

Michael:

I agree that what Obama said was at best a faux pas, and at worst a sign that he is not the genius that everyone makes him out to be.

In fact, this is the third fairly stupid thing he’s said in the past three or four months.  First were comments he made about his health care plan vis-a-vis the others’ plans.  The second was comments he made about social security.  Both of these were addressed by economist Paul Krugman in his NYT column:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/opinion/07krugman.ht ml?sq=krugman obama&scp=2&pagewanted=print

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/opinion/17krugman.ht ml?sq=krugman obama&scp=3&pagewanted=print

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/opinion/16krugman.ht ml?sq=krugman obama&scp=8&pagewanted=print

Now Obama is suggesting that Reagan’s economic policies were positive in some ways.  Even if this is true, Reagan is hardly the person that a self-proclaimed progressive candidate like Obama should be invoking re economics.  Of course, Obama’s people are now backtracking, dissembling and spinning his comment.  But the intent was clear when he made it.

I know that Obama is a smart man, and that he has some very good ideas.  But if he keeps up with the gaffes, particular re economics, he may sabotage his own campaign.

Peace.

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By Michael Shaw, January 19 at 12:12 am #
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Re: Re: IE Col. Karen

Well Maani they were very positive in some ways. Our GDP has nearly doubled since 1980. For every dollar we brought in back then, today we’re bringing in a $1.72. The nation is twice as rich as it was then. Americans have been producing our asses off. But during this fantastic 30 year boom, only the top ten percent has benefited. 48.5 cents on every dollar goes to them. The 150 million of the rest of us get the other half. In the same exuberant time frame we the average citizen have gotten nothing in the most prosperous period in American history. We’ve had to contend with stagnant wages, losses in benefits and retirement funds, ridicules cost in living increases and on top of that, today’s average wages have gone down and are lower then they were in 2000. Add that to job out sourcing, in affordable health care, record bank foreclosures and insurmountable debt. Meanwhile the government bails out the banks while the rest of us whither on the vine. Hell! Bush’s economic proposal is a joke! The only way we’re going to get saved is if we completely roll back Reaganomics and we all know the likelihood in that.

The only business hiring in America today(beyond Burger King) is the lobby industry, the same folks who give our candidates campaign finance. They have also doubled in numbers, right along with the GDP. As one economist put it, it’s easier to mine gold from the government then it is to dig it out of a mountain.

Thanks for your comments!

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By Jaki, January 18 at 9:50 pm #
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Obama on Reagan

It appears Obama is playing to the Republicans he hopes will consider crossing over (in the Real election) to vote for him because they can’t stomach any of the candidates of their own party.  They can also pretend they aren’t racist.  Besides, Barrack has kept the issue of race at bay.

It seems rather frequently that Obama is an opportunist, who plays down certain things and panders at times to some who might not be accepting if they knew the truth, whatever it is.

He’s an impressive speaker, but there’s not much filling, and he seems to be more hawkish than dovish. 

As a person who generally votes progressive, I’m not yet convinced about Obama.  The Reagan comments were troubling.

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By PatrickHenry, January 18 at 1:35 pm #
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Some schools of thought conclude

Some schools of thought conclude that rumors of a nuclear armed B-52 responding to an Egyptian attack on the USS Liberty, have merit.  Once “Broken Arrow” was openly transmitted over the air, that plan would be foiled.  It would explain alot in a Lavon sort of way.

As for the neocons all being jewish, 99.9% is stretching it, 75% to 80% is not.  Jewish Americans are a 2% ethnic/religious minority, these public policy advisors (neocons) over-represent that religion/ethnicity significantly in this relatively small government service field.  I’m suprised no one has filed a discrimination or an affirmitive action complaint.  In my view, the government should reflect the census.

Chertoff, a dual national of Israel and whose mother was among one of the first Mossad employees, released dozens of Mossad agents after 9/11, many failed lie detector tests given by the FBI.  This whole affair is dirty and needs some objective investigation by the next sitting government as it is snowballing.

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By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 2:04 pm #
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Re: Some schools of thought conclude

Patrick Henry, thanks for the valuable information about Chertoff. I wasn’t aware of his duel citizenship. It also makes one scratch his head over why the head of the DHLS and a Jew himself would list PETA on the top of its domestic terror list on their website and exclude neo-Nazi groups who are the worst enemies of the Jews(and mankind) that exist.

That said there won’t be any real investigations simply because if there were the facade and more importantly, the ripoff in government would come to a screeching end. The nation would be in flames and the despots strung up along all the roads that lead to Washington.

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By PatrickHenry, January 18 at 1:01 pm #
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It's a shame that many

It’s a shame that many beaurocrats who receive “medals of freedom” don’t really deserve them, but Col. Karen Kwiatkowski may turn out to be one who has really earned it.

If only this election clears enough dead wood away to make an comphrehensive investigation possible.

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By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 10:01 am #
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Devaluating dollar

Thanks Maani and how true. The only difference is in the case of the Weimar Republic it was losing the war and the ensuing debt that drove down their economy. In Bush’s case it is a deliberate fostering from a victory nation, the wealthiest country in the world, who has seen record earnings in the last twenty five years. The only problem of course is that of every dollar the US economy produces, 48 cents of it goes to the wealthiest 10 percent. Also that all the money we’re borrowing from foreign nations to subsidize the war on terror is going to that same 10%. Meanwhile that same 10% is divesting abroad while we continue to go deeper and deeper into debt, debt that we, the other 90% will be paying for and are paying for.

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By Maani, January 18 at 6:56 pm #
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Re: Devaluating dollar

Re the wealth statistics in the U.S., the top 1% own about 40% of the wealth.  The top 10% own almost 70% of the wealth. [N.B.  These are 2006 statistics.] As well, in 1980, the average CEO’s pay was about 50 times the average employee.  By 1990, this figure had risen to 200 times.  By 2000, it was over 500 times.  It has since settled back to just over 400 times.

As well, don’t forget that the Saudis, Koreans, Chinese and Taiwan hold the vast majority of our debt.  And Taiwan just ousted the pro-U.S. candidate, which could itself lead to a dangerous situation re the dollar if the Taiwanese call in some of that debt.  But combine this with the fact that the Saudis are looking to unpeg oil from the dollar - and the increasingly complex and uneasy situation with the Chinese - and our economy could change DRAMATICALLY in the next 12-24 months.

Peace.

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By Michael Shaw, January 21 at 12:55 pm #
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Actually Maani it depends in what terms of wealth you’re talking about. In overall wealth, your numbers seem right. 48.5 cents of every dollar in the GDP goes to 10% of the population. This has been going on for thirty years. 1% does owns 40-50% of our all around wealth. This includes land, stocks, properties and estates too, on top of the annual gross ripoff of the GDP.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 18 at 8:30 am #
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hetzer, January 18 at 6:01

hetzer, January 18 at 6:01 am #

“...After all, Italians have mixed feelings about the Mafia.  White southerners have mixed feelings about the Klan.”

I suggest a qualifying adjective be included in the above… Black southerners have NO mixed feelings about the Klan.  Morris Dees Jimmy Carter, and many other white southerners harbor no “mixed feelings” toward this organization.

In Brooklyn New York, it was Italian prosecutors and Italian Judges and some Italian law enforcement people who put John Gotti, Joey Gallo, and Marcus Genovese behind bars..

stereotypes do no one any good.

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By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 2:58 pm #
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Re: hetzer, January 18 at 6:01

Well CY, although I don’t think hetzer was intentionally trying to stereotype(at least I hope not), I agree with your comments and I’d like to add as being partly Jewish myself, nothing is holding me back. But I think the problem with the Jewish community is that whenever they do speak out, they are stated as being bad Jews. Much of this sentiment was established over years of racism right here in America and was polarized when Hitler started the death camps in Europe. Many Jews came to realize that they had to look out for themselves. Racism is what invented the Ghettos of New York and indeed it is what led to a Jewish state, a place where Jews could feel comfortable simply being Jews. So whenever a Jew is placed in a predicament like today, to speak out against other Jews is a mortal sin. Even when they know full well guys like Feith or Wolfowitz are SOB’s.

I’d also like to point out another reason we aren’t hearing much in protest in the Jewish community is because our corporate media never gives any protest much attention. Also there are Jews in the US peace movement and the movement to impeach. I’ve even seen Jews in San Francisco march with banners of the Jewish community right alongside Palestinians in complete defiance to Bush and his administration and the Jewish Apartheid state. In fact I believe the Jewish/Palestinian community in SF helped to sponsor the event. Now how many Americans were aware of that? I’ll venture not many.

Also many who march against the war or are involved in other forms of advocacy, simply do so because they are concerned citizens. Americans! Just because they do protest and don’t wear the Star of David doesn’t mean they aren’t out there. They are.

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By hetzer, January 18 at 6:01 am #
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Maani:

There is an account by a female army colonel who worked with the Neocon “intelligence” outfit in the pentagon.  She suspected that something was up when she saw Israeli army officers coming and going “like they owned the place”.  Eventually she resigned in disgust.  I believe this was before 911.  The trouble with organized crime is that it is very adept a covering its tracks.

I wish sensible American Jews would actively disassociate themselves from these vicious traitors.  But, I fear it will never happen.  After all, Italians have mixed feelings about the Mafia.  White southerners have mixed feelings about the Klan.

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By Michael Shaw, January 18 at 9:27 am #
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Re: Maani:

hetzer, I believe you’re referring to Col. Karen Kwiatkowski who escorted a half dozen Israeli officials, some who were generals, to Feith’s office. Karen believed something was fishy because when she asked Feith if his guests were going to sign in, which was Pentagon policy after the 9/11 attacks, Feith said that wouldn’t be necessary making her believe the meeting was not meant to be documented. She was also at the Pentagon on 9/11 and noted the debris left from the attack looked more so like a missile then an aircraft. She is one of the 25 officers who has challenged the official 9/11 account. She also brought to light how Cheney and Rumsfeld doctored and cherry picked intelligence.

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By Robert, January 17 at 8:56 pm #
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January 17, 2008Bringing Death and

January 17, 2008

Bringing Death and Destruction to Muslims
Leader and Vassal

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

“After pandering to Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert’s right-wing government last week, US president George W. Bush carried the Israeli/neoconservative campaign against Iran to Arab countries. Sounding as authentic as the “Filipino Monkey,” Bush told the Arab countries that “Iran is the world’s leading state sponsor of terror,” and that “Iran’s actions threaten the security of nations everywhere.”

To no effect. Every country in the world, except America, knows by now that the US is the world’s leading state sponsor of terror and that the neoconservative drive for US hegemony over the world threatens the security of nations everywhere. But before we get into this, let’s first see what Bush means by “terrorist” and Iran’s sponsorship of terrorism.

Bush considers Iran to be the leading state sponsor of terror, because Iran is believed to fund Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian ghetto. Hezbollah and Hamas are two organizations that exist because of Israeli aggression against Palestine and Lebanon. The two organizations are branded “terrorist” because they resist Israel’s theft of Palestine and Israel’s designs on southern Lebanon. Both organizations are resistance organizations. They resist Israel’s territorial expansion and this makes them “terrorist.”

They are terrorists because they don’t receive billions in US military aid and cannot put armies in the field with tanks, fighter jets and helicopter gunships, backed up by US spy satellites and Israel’s nuclear weapons--although Hezbollah, a small militia, has twice defeated the Israeli army. However, Palestine is so thoroughly under the Israeli heel that Hamas can resist only with suicide bombers and obsolete rockets. It is dishonest to damn the terrorist response but not the policies that provoke the response.

The US is at war in Iraq, because the neoconservatives want to rid Israel of the Muslim governments--Iraq, Iran and Syria--that are not American surrogates and, therefore, are willing to fund Palestinian and Lebanese resistance to Israeli aggression. Israel, protected by the US, has disobeyed UN resolutions for four decades and has been methodically squeezing Palestinians out of Palestine.

Americans do not think of themselves or of Israel as terrorist states, but the evidence is complete and overwhelming. Thanks to the power of the Israel Lobby, Americans only know the Israeli side of the story, which is that evil anti-semite Palestinians will not let blameless Israelis live in peace and persist in their unjustified terror attacks on an innocent Israeli state.

The facts differ remarkably from Israel Lobby propaganda. Israel illegally occupies Palestine. Israel sends bulldozers into Palestinian villages and knocks down Palestinian houses, occasionally killing an American protester in the process, and uproots Palestinian olive groves. Israel cuts Palestinian villages off from water, hospitals, farmlands, employment and schools. Israel builds special roads through Palestine on which only Israelis can travel. Israel establishes checkpoints everywhere to hinder Palestinian movement to hospitals, schools and from one enclave or ghetto to another. Many Palestinians die from the inability to get through checkpoints to medical care. Israel builds illegal settlements on Palestinian lands. Israeli Zionist “settlers” take it upon themselves to evict Palestinians from their villages and towns in order to convert them into Israeli settlements. A huge wall has been built to wall off the stolen Palestinian lands from the remaining isolated ghettos. Israeli soldiers shoot down Palestinian children in the streets. So do Israeli Zionist “settlers.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01172008.html

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By Maani, January 17 at 5:30 pm #
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HitliaryDickiary:Let me respond to your

HitliaryDickiary:

Let me respond to your hyperbolic diatribe.

“Maani...has a fear of using the word Jews...why?”

As a Judeo-Christian (born Jewish, converted but still involved in my heritage as a Jew), I could easily accuse you of anti-semitism here.  But I will simply assume you let your emotions get the better of you.

“Why did the Israel Jews attack USS Liberty and the American Jews covered it up?”

Actually, the USS Liberty event is still very much debated, though I would ask a similar question to the one 9/11 Truthers ask re 9/11: what did Israel have to gain from sinking a ship owned by its most powerful ally?  But even setting that aside, what point are you trying to make here: what does a single incident 40 YEARS AGO have to do with anything right now?

“Now hear me guy/gal, all neo-cons are zionist and 99.9% Jewish.”

For the record, I am male.  And although it is true that much of the neocon movement has been led by those of Jewish extraction (Irving/William Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Don Kagan et al), and other Jews are involved (Perle, Feith, Libby et al), the movement is by no means “99.9% Jewish.” The movement was founded by a Catholic (Michael Harrington) and has many non-Jews as well (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et al), and even a noted atheist (Fukuyama).  So please - enough hyperbole.

“Have you read about the 5 dancing Mossad Jews caught filming WTC attacks and jailed for 3 months and released in secret to go back to Israel.”

The infamous Urban Moving Company incident has long been debunked as “Mossad.” The initial report on UMC - by Laura Knight - went “viral” fairly quickly, not least because so many people were convinced (with little or no evidence) that there was an Israeli connection to 9/11.  However, Ms. Knight herself ended up publishing a clarification of her report since so many people were interpreting it as something that it was not.

“Before you post any bullchips--WTC7 was a prison tight security, now explain how a 48 story bldg could disappear in 9 seconds flat. If you can demostrate it--you could make million$--just by lighting a small oil base fire and gonezo-- pile of dust.”

Actually, not only do I agree with you re WTC 7 - which was unquestionably a controlled demolition - but the “sidebars” re WTC 7 are some of the most “interesting” of all: in addition to Giuliani’s famous bunker, it housed the SEC (including the Enron files), the DOD, the IRS, the CIA and other government agencies.  There are also numerous viable reports that the Bank of Nova Scotia had vaults under the building holding between $600 million and $950 million.

“String us another B.S. line and u need to be locked up. by the way, you could make alot of money selling refrigerators to Eskimos. Try it!”

I’m not sure where this is coming from, but I will again assume it is your emotions running away from you into hyperbole-land.

Peace.

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By hetzer, January 17 at 5:25 pm #
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Thanks Michael:

I think you are right about AIPAC, Likud, Israel, Liberal Jews, etc.  What worries me is that the extreme right has basically become a criminal organization that has never hesitated to use force and fraud in order to achieve its ends.  Did this force and fraud extend to 911 and instigating the Iraq war?

And, above all, why don’t liberal Jews stand up to these jerks that are really putting them in political jeopardy?  All of this looks like a strange bizarro world repeat of the conditions that existed in the Weimar Republic.

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By Michael Shaw, January 17 at 7:44 pm #
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Re: Thanks Michael:

Well hetzer I think you’re right about the Weimar Republic. The conditions back then are uncannily similar today in America. Lot’s of things point that way, like the DHLS designating PETA as a terrorist organization on their new website but failing to list right wing extremist groups like the KKK. Then there’s the blatant and apparent corporatism. The unitary executive theory in full swing. The corporate controlled media, which is essentially the defense department and the MIC. Then of course the rolling back of our civil liberties, the removal of habeas corpus, the advent of “legalized” torture and even the slow but deliberate breaking down of organized labor are all parallels. Add those to the complete disregard of international laws and preemptive warfare and there you have it! It brings us to the study in the ten points in fascism, the things all fascist states have in common.

Perhaps this is why so many liberal Jews aren’t stepping up, though my hat goes off to all who have like the Israeli pilots who had the courage to stand up and say they would never strafe civilians in the West Bank again! So at least some are stepping up, but many others as you say aren’t. I think it all boils down to fear. Of course they have a right to be afraid. In fact we all do!

As far as Bushco being involved in the 9/11 attacks, it is obvious they were in one way or another. What we do know leads to them basically ignoring several warnings. Since it is obvious they are capable of anything, then anythings possible. I think they knew and let it happen to realize the project for a new American century. Whatever the case and at the very least, these people are dangerous and if we ever get them out of there, we must see to it they are never allowed to serve in a government role ever again.

Thanks for your comments!

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By Maani, January 17 at 8:13 pm #
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Re: Re: Thanks Michael:

Hetzer/Michael:

One aspect of the Weimar Republic and its morphing into national socialism that you both forget is the intense devaluation of the German mark.  This was what led to Germany’s need to borrow money from the “money lenders,” and the ultimate scapegoating of the Jews.

So the rapidly devaluating dollar is yet another aspect of the similarity to Weimar Gemany.

The following might interest you:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

Peace.

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By Michael Shaw, January 17 at 12:38 pm #
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Maani I applaud your comments.

Maani I applaud your comments. I think the perceptions of many concerning Israel and “its” influence over US foreign policy, is not really as cut and dry as people think.

The neocon agenda, and that of the Likud party are fairly easy to ascertain when we look at them the way they truly ought to be looked at. The fact they have become essentially the same animal should come as no surprise. For example, one only needs to look at AIPAC, who ironically, wouldn’t have the power they have in America today without the help of millions from the Christian right, the so called Christian Zionists. I say ironically of course due to their belief that in order for the second coming, the temple must be rebuilt in Syria, signaling the end of the world(and