Re: #121888 by Jaki on 12/22 at 9:56 am

Jaki, thanks for the ‘sentimental’ support. I hear your concern about election tampering but I feel safe on this one. So safe, in fact, that Huckabee’s nomination by the ‘Repugnicans’ will remain in my fantasies; it won’t happen.

The guy that would really give the religious conservatives fits if he ran would be Jesus Christ.Take care of the poor heal the sick the National Review would implode.They would have to repudiate the new testament and become in Ann Coulters words imperfect.Wait till he gets to the part if you have two coats.....

Sorry, my mistake, Chauncy.  Edwards was there.  But Kucinich wasn’t.  It seems he is the ONLY Democrat candidate not on this Ron Paul Supporters-generated list.

#121789 by Chauncy on 12/21 at 6:59 pm
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Chauncy, I went to the site you referred us to about the CFR and the New World Order/Globalization plans.

Your list of Presidential candidates who support this move away from maintaining our country’s sovereignty does not seem to be entirely correct.  John Edwards name was not there.

#121764 by BruSays on 12/21 at 3:53 pm
(49 comments total) “Republicans: Please, Please, Please nominate Huckabee!
Only with a Huckabee nomination will moderate Americans in general, and mainstream Republicans in particular, finally - FINALLY - be awakened to the fact that the GOP has been hijacked by right-wing zealots.”

Bru--Although I certainly agree with your sentiments, we have to remember that the Repugnicans STOLE THE LAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS by BALLOT FRAUD AND ELECTION TAMPERING. 

That basically calls into question the concept of wanting the most extreme candidate anywhere on the ballot.

#121708 by ForeverDem on 12/21 at 9:31 am
“The electorate is losing confidence in the Democrats, due to the ineffectiveness of Congressional Democrats to confront the lawless Bush Regime… This has got to change and change FAST or Democrats are likely to lose seats in both Houses in November 08. REID AND PELOSI SHOULD STEP ASIDE NOW!!”

ForeverDem:  We have a criminally insane FASCIST self-appointed, KING in the White House who threatens vetoes of everything he opposes, and carries out those threats.  This is contrary to the intentions of the Founders of Our Country, but it is FACT.  Reid, Pelosi, ALL of the House and Senate Democrats are powerless AT THIS POINT to override this demagogery and unmitigated power.  They do not have the votes, nor much hope of getting them.

THEREFORE, OUR ONLY HOPE, in terms of the future of our country AND THE PLANET, is to get rid of as many Repugnicans as possible in the next elections, nationally, state-wide, and locally.  PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER that one of the ways the Repugnicans WIN is to focus on local elections and extreme issues (often by the “initiative process") to bring out their truly “base” voters.  Another way they win is to lie, so we have to throw them ALL out, no matter how good they sound.

In the next election, the immigration card will be played over and over and over, and it is a false (AND RACIST) issue.  Not that all of us are not concerned on some level by the influx of people into our country and the drain on our already dwindling resources (Thanks to King George’s UNHoly War).  But we need to better understand WHY this is happening, and that it isn’t the fault of those who desperately seek to come here because multi-national corporations have decimated their lives in their own countries.

Those same multi-national corporations WANT that cheap labor to come here, too (and King George supports it).  Otherwise, they wouldn’t be hiring them to take the jobs our workers would otherwise have.  They used to justify this by saying Americans don’t want and won’t do those jobs, and we bought into it.  Like who wants to be bent over in the sun all day picking strawberries full of pesticides?  But construction?  Service jobs?  You name it.  The working class is being squeezed out into homelessness and poverty.

Do not blame the victims.  Do not blame the powerless in our government.  Put the blame where it belongs: greedy corporations and their henchmen who control government (lobbyists and the elite).

Frankly, I’m not convinced the Democrats will fulfill our dreams of a truly egalitarian, socially conscious, society, but the ONLY SANE OPTION we will have in 2008 and beyond (for many elections) is to give them a chance.  As others have duly noted, it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to control who goes onto the Supreme Court.

So, let’s commit to voting for Democrats (even if it hurts) for a while to see if there IS a real difference between these two parties, while We The People do everything we can to hold their feet to the fire. If after a decade or so of Democrat Majority we are in the same boat, let’s think and debate about sinking it.

I urge everyone to go to http://www.pbs.org and watch or read the transcript of Bill Moyers’ Journal, shown last night (12/21/07).

#121697 by Bill in LA on 12/21 at 8:54 am
(Unregistered commenter) “Great article… As an evangelical pastor in California, I couldn’t agree more with this statement.  The GOP is in trouble because it is losing the emerging generations of evangelicals as we see more compassion in the social justice agendas of the left…
I think Huckabee has managed to tap into those changing currents among evangelicals, who want to remain socially conservative (ie. look more like a republican in issues like abortion), but also are looking to embrace a socially compassionate agenda (ie. look more like a democrat in issues like immigration, the environment, and programs for the poor).”

It is just so revealing when right wing religious zealots exclude a Woman’s Right to Choose from the category of compassionate social conscience.  Remember, the anti-choice people want to ban ALL abortions, including pregnancies caused by rape and incest, or when a woman’s life is at stake should she carry the pregnancy to term.

To be truly compassionate and “populist,” the RIGHT of a woman to guide her own destiny and decide when and whether she wishes to allow her body to be an incubator, is her RIGHT OF CHOICE and RIGHT TO PRIVACY (as guaranteed by The Constitution with validation by The Supreme Court).  It is not to be decided by men or other women or parents, priests, doctors, or politicians.

ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE ANTI-CHOICE.  So it really doesn’t matter which one gets nominated.  Socially conscious, enlightened, TRULY COMPASSIONATE, women and men will come out of the woodwork to defeat them.  We will not go backwards.  We The People do not want religion to control our government or our bodies.  Their days are numbered. We will not be fooled again.

I think EJ has it right. At this point there is no indication that Huckebee is for sale to the monied interests. And that is a big concern for those interests. That he may open up the cracks of the inconsistiencies that the party has become, is also frightening. The demographic of religiously conservative, but compassionate people will go for Mike. The rest of us will fear that if he is elected great naivete about the ways of the world will rule. I suspect that it was naivete in the form, that any prisoner who professes to believe the right things religiously will automatically be a good safe release, rather than calculated evit that led to those pardons.

It will be an interesting spectacle to watch. I can’t say how it will come out. But it does seem unlikely the Republican party will be the same afterwards.

Republicans: Please, Please, Please nominate Huckabee!

Only with a Huckabee nomination will moderate Americans in general, and mainstream Republicans in particular, finally - FINALLY - be awakened to the fact that the GOP has been hijacked by right-wing zealots.

As the author Sam Harris ("Letters to a Christian Nation,” etc.) has pointed out, the apologetic and ‘compassionate’ religious moderates have long cushioned or even prevented what normally would be the inevitable collision of mainstream moderate and progressive ideology from the extremes of radical evangelicals.

The same has been true of the Republican moderates who for years have tap danced around and carefully softened the messages of their Bible pounding GOP brethren. But put a real Bible pounder - a real anti-evolution, anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-tolerance, anti-science, anti-education, anti-separation of church and state radical on the ticket and the Democrats will have a field day a at the polls. 

I’m convinced that Americans will FINALLY see that the Republican Party has gone too far; that the GOP had long ago been hijacked by backward thinking people who’ve become the joke of world opinion.

“All I have to say is Wait and See you’ll all be just as shocked and dumb-founded as you were last election when Bush was re-elected.”

I wasn’t shocked.  I knew Bush could steal elections.

I get a kick out of how Mike Huckabee suggests his success is a miracle.  In other words, he is saying that God is backing him for president.  Fundamentalist preachers operate that way.

For all their talk of moral absolutes, fundamentalists believe the means justify the ends.  That includes the use of lying.  Something is okay if it advances the cause.

Mike Huckabee says the commercial was shot in front of a bookcase.  However, it looks like a window to me.  The cross pattern surrounds the windowpanes.  Notice the reflection of the Christmas tree ornaments in the window.

Iowa, with its caucuses, rewards zealots, who turn out.  When the primaries get going, The Republican establishment will get rid of Mike Huckabee.

I wouldn’t vote for Huckabee with your vote.  It would be nice to see the Crusades be called the Crusades, instead of the war on terror, nice Christian nation that we are.

Give the Republican base what they want. Please. Because it seems that the people that use religion as their litmus test for president want Huckabee. And it would appear that not only does their idol have feet of clay he may be clay from head to foot. Many people are sick and tired of religion being force-fed into every conversation and issue. I hope Huckabee is the nominee because that will absolutely guarantee that a Democrat sits in the oval office. And while I support John Edwards, I want to know for sure that it is a Democrat that nominates the one or two new nominees for the Supreme Court that will surely come up during the next administration. Conservatives have always known how important this is. Most liberals don’t seem to care.

Mike Huckabee has already sold out his base amongst ordinary people by advocating the replacement of the progressive income tax with a regressive consumption tax.

Main Street’s Values?  Is it Main Street’s values to let a homicidal rapist free only to have him rape and kill two more women?  Huckabee did this, even after many women wrote to him and one even met with him, pleading not to let Wayne Demond free.  He put pressure on the parole board, whose high-paying jobs were in his power.

One woman was raped, with a butcher knife held to her throat, in front of her 3 year old.  She is the one who went to meet with Huckabee, who ignored her and many other women with similar experiences with Demond.

Do you think Main Streeters want a person with such poor judgment running the country?

Main Street Values?  Huckabee has said he is not interested in having women have parity in the workplace, and actually thinks it is wrong.  Do you think those Main Street folks are living on one income?

Investigators reported today on Democracy Now! that neither church that Huckabee pastored will release copies of his sermons from the past 12 years.  Why?

Huckabee is a Huckster.  He’s one of those innocent-looking, boyish-appearing, down-home evangelical menaces the Republicans know they can get their “base” to fall for.  He’s an actor, saying what he thinks they want to hear.  He is not genuine.  Just an actor playing genuine.

You say “Power to the People, Mike, Right on.” What a load of crap.  Get real.  Huckabee has no interest in The People.  Women are people.  Huckabee is anti-woman, anti-choice, homophobic, and a divider, not, as he claims, a uniter. Heard that before?  He is interested in power.  Get it right.