Purplewolf, I think your minister friend must have been speaking biblically metaphorically.  A person who lies cannot really enter into a church.  He can go in, but he can’t enter.  There’s a difference between entering and going in.  I’m not certain what it is, but your average man of the cloth would know and there’s where faith comes in. 

Now, if you’re not a liar, then enter, then become a liar, then things take on a new color.  For example, many men of the cloth themselves entered not knowing or recognizing that they were, by definition, liars.  Then they were found out—or publicly acknowledged by non-liar cloth people—to be the liars they became…

Look, I can save time. Understanding religion takes a bit of creativity, patience and love.  Knowing a few ancient languages is helpful, too.  I’m writing a new book which I am calling, “Understanding Religion & Entering a Church, a creative guide for the 21st century.”  Should be out soon.  If you care to, why not pick up a copy?

Everybody knows Jesus is in jail(s).  Haven’t you listened to Lou Dobbs.  These illegal aliens are corrupting our way of life.

Unfortunately we haven’t escaped the dark ages.  And, they are coming back with a vengeance.

RE# 120117 by Andrew on 12/14 at 1:52 am:

And just what is mindless about it, Andrew?

It is Truthdig’s job to print what the MSM will not.  The MSM will not point out the absolute moronic idiocy of professing a belief in fairy tales as a good quality for elected office.

While I may not agree with everything I find on this site I am thankful I have a reputable place to refer to when beginning my research into various topics of current interest.  At no time has any article I’ve researched been wrong.  And they are not here, either.

Huckabee is just another piece of elected crap trying to use the jeebus myth to justify his incredible, filthy lust for theocratic control.

If you find the words too big or the ideas too profound, Andrew, there are many sites tailor made for you: The Drudge Report, CNN, Fox, etc., all sites designed to keep the stupid stupid, the ill-informed ill-informed, and the mouth-breathing morons who believe in fairy tales happy.  You should be right at home.

Having worked as a corrections officer in a medium security prison,the first thing inmates do in prison is find “JESUS” or ALLAH or whatever the current religious fad of the day happens to be. Why do you think they call then CONvicts? Right. How easily you religious fools are deceived. I’ve even had a minister say that a person who lies cannot enter into a church. A person I know who went to his church every Sunday was the biggest liar, drug addict, thief and on the run convict,but so much for not being able to enter a church if you are bad.

Releasing a violent depraved person like Glen Green just because he found Jesus,does not mean he is president material.In fact it proves he is not up the the job.Whenever a person starts to spout their religious whatever,you are in for a con job. There should be aptitude tests among other requirements to check a persons qualifications needed to fulfill the job of president. What you claim God says to you is not one of those qualifications. We have had enough of seeing what God has wanted destroyed in the world in the last seven years, it’s time to exorcise the White House and cleanse it of all negativity that has steeped into every inch of it.Keep Huckabee in the church,he can do less damage there, he has no place in the white house.

We need a logical,honest,level headed, fair and just person someone who is trustworthy for all people,not to a few suck-ups like we have now.

Thomas’s idea sounds fantastic. However, he should be more than satisfied to take a real vow of poverty and serve free of charge to do Gods bidding, we will offer him free room and board. His own private cell,like the nuns have, and he shall be well fed on the words of the lord as he will be given the same allotment of food money that the US government thinks a poor person can eat well on and remain healthy,about $30 dollars a month or less.After all God shall provide all he needs.

#119906 by Thomas Billis

Thomas, I love it!!! Prime Minister it is. You don’t even have to figure out any more duties for him. Just let him talk to God and keep Oprah company. That’ll be plenty. (maybe you should have him take notes, just so he’s got something to show for his paycheck) Wait…better yet, he can turn the notes in to Oprah, and SHE can pay him!!

Now that we’ve got THAT figured out…

JOE!!

“….But when he says that his faith defines his life and that there can be no separation of religion from government, what does that mean in practice?..”

What the hell do you THINK it means – in practice!? It means a flippin’ theocracy!!! It means I’ll end up doing time for choking the Jehovah Witness the next time she bangs on my door at 9:00am on a Saturday morning. It means Huckabee should run for president of Saudi Arabia or some other similar place.

NOT HERE!!

Oh yeah, somebody should tell him and his group to stop passing counterfeit airline tickets, and then sayin’ “Jesus blesses you”, because that doesn’t pay the fuel bills.

Jesus, Oprah, and Mickey Mouse, and throw in Moroni and Joseph Smith if you like, and you have what has screwed up the world for all of recorded history. It’s based on the principle that if you tell lies often enough eventually people come to accept them as some kind of truth, and the trouble begins.

The funny thing is that poor moronic Bush expects a pass for his misbehavior but won’t give any to his enemies, only to those who lied for him. Not that he decides whom to pardon, but that when religion of ANY stripe rears its ugly head, the shit hits the fan.

“Buying into” the Mormon religion is no worse than buying into any other: you brand yourself as naive, credulous, and either crafty or stupid depending on whether you are a leader or a follower. Doing unto others as you would have them do unto you isn’t bad per se, but setting up church authority to define good and bad cannot be anything but bad in the long run.

When anyone professes religious belief I immediately think of one word: “charlatan.” Even if the person actually has convinced himself of the truth of his tenets, he is still a fraud and a faker because he professes to know what is unknowable and possibly untrue.

Huckabee=huckster.

Religion and “finding Jesus” as a reason to release violent criminals from prison makes as much sense as religion and “finding Jesus” as a reason to vote for a presidential candidate.

But that “Christianity and Christmas is important” thing was passed in the house yesterday, by an overwhelming majority, with hardly anyone asking if it was appropriate to bring up at all.

Reminds me of that bumper sticker:

I FOUND JESUS.
He was behind the couch all the time.

The sad thing is that this column will improve his image among the religious right.What better criterion to decide if a guy is rehabiliated then if he has found Jesus.For all these Jesus people running for President let us create a new post they can run for how about “Prime Minister”.Make whoever wins the No 1 minister to the nation.Everybody else who sees the Constitution as the last word on running the country can run for President.The minister can talk to God and of course get answers.Every Sunday at 5 am he can tell who ever gives a damn what God said and what he thinks we should do.I have not fleshed out all the duties of the Prime Minister but you get the idea let us get these morons like Huckabee off to the side so the rest of us can get our country back.

I think, Joe, you meant “religiosity disguised as political favors.”  I think. Or perhaps, “religiosity disguised as wise legal dispensation.”