Just discovered—CommonDreams is running the exact same article and has a thread going there too with some of the comments here showing up there but not all of them.  So it could get confusing. But if KEM PATRICK shows up here, I have already replied over at CD and here is my reply here:  Duh!

Howdy KEM PATRICK, I’m not worried. Well we all know from bible stories that jesus was supposed to be a carpenter. But funny, no one ever talks about what he made or built. You can bet whatever your wad if jesus was a house framer or a carpenter of any sort, his works would be better than excellent, they would be divine. Now do you see any of those divine things? Has anyone? Hmmmm. I’m not looking forward to rising from the dead, I think the whole idea is kind of silly. According to your post, all the stories we’ve had for hundreds of years are incorrect? Jesus wasn’t born December 25? OMG. You had better tell WalMart! If Christmas is an abortion, then can we assume you are not against abortion and we should get rid of the holiday? That’s great! And just exactly what evidence do you have that the scriptures the alleged wisemen read was correct or even existent? Is that the Hebrew bible you are talking about? How much research have you done to verify the Old Testament. What do you think of the Pentateuch? Or maybe you accept the Hexateuch? If you accept the Old Testament, or Torah, why do you not accept all the other Hebrew documents, such as the Talmud, sometimes called the Gemara? How well do you really know your religion? Perhaps you are not interested in the truth?

Tomorrow is another day…

Just some off the wall questions, but if jesus is an incarnation of god, then why would he (is god really a he?) celebrate his own supposed birthday?  I mean, why attribute any sex to god?  Also, if jesus is god, why would he be buying anything, uh, for himself?  For who? His mom? Naw, she don’t count.  His dad, uh, why would the big guy want a Christmas present?  Oh, maybe the Holy Ghost, not sure what the relationship is to jesus, wants a new iPhone, naw, it don’t need anything.  And why would jesus god need money?  And would the money be US currency (right now it has been devalued, he maybe ought to use Euros?) Oh,gawd this is confusing.  Okay, how about… oh, forget about it.

Oh yeah, if jesus was a carpenter, where are all the things he made?  Wouldn’t his dad and mom keep them like we do for our kids? And if any of them could be found, wouldn’t they be holy relics? They might be even better than a shroud.  Oh, what about his tools, wouldn’t they be holy artifacts?  Anybody ever found holy tools?  Sorry, again, it’s confusing.

Remember, Amy Goodman is also a granddaughter of an Orthodox Rabbi.  Being Jewish is not the issue.  Being a proud citizen of the USA IS the issue, especially when the mainland Chinese not only send us cheap, poisonous crap, but also poison our waterways with an oil slick that dwarfs that of the Exxon Valdez.  Let’s see.  The mainland Chinese take our jobs away with foreign labor, then poison our children with lead paint in toys, then poison our landscape with the worst ecological damage by petroleum goods since the Valdez.  Face it, “Made in China” is the worst disaster to affect the USA outside the combined Santa Ana fires AND Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and Wilma.  On the other hand, “MADE IN USA” means the products are generally safer to use, made better, and made by AMERICANS OF ANY RACE.

This is not to take anything away from the Asian Oriental peoples.  If I had my choice between working with a Black, a Korean, a Japanese, a Viet Namese, and a Chinese American person, the Black would be gone, and the other four would be a coin-flip, with my deep regrets for losing three of them.  Asian Indians would also be a very strong consideration here.

No, being Jewish or Chinese-descended is NOT the issue.  Buying things MADE IN THE USA for non-consumerist usage, and ensuring that OUR friends and OUR neighbors are still WORKING and ALIVE, IS THE ISSUE.

Someone mention the Edna St. Vincent Millay poem, To Jesus on his Birthday:
For this your mother sweated in the cold,
For this you bled upon the bitter tree:
A yard of tinsel ribbon bought and sold;
A paper wreath; a day at home for me.
The merry bells ring out, the people kneel;
Up goes the man of God before the crowd;
With voice of honey and with eyes of steel
He drones your humble gospel to the proud.
Nobody listens. Less than the wind that blows
Are all your words to us you died to save.
O Prince of Peace! O Sharon’s dewy Rose!
How mute you lie within your vaulted grave.
The stone the angel rolled away with tears
Is back upon your mouth these thousand years.

Religious holidays have been hijacked over time to what we see today. Each one of us can release that hold by not participating in the hype, by speaking out about it to our friends, by not expecting trivial things manufactured by slave labor so we can get a bargain.

Jesus showed his anger once when he overturned the money changers tables. But we should not create such slogans at the same time What would Jesus do? What would Jesus buy? If we are to believe the story he died and sacrificed himself for US. Therefore the questions need to be personalized What would YOU do? What would YOU buy? How long are YOU going to play along?

I stumbled upon this video as I was “cruising” around the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsOIjzQ1V8

RE:  #115097 by mythbreaker on 11/22 at 3:20 am
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He wouldn’t buy into the incredible lies of the Media, a very phony Hollywood and a Congressional membership that sold out to a dividend and a dark manipulator of extortion known as the Israeli lobby.

What goes around comes around
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Let us evaluate the topic.  And that there are 24 messages on target.  But this one that brings up the Isreli Lobby when its not called for and certainly shows us something.

Mainly that no matter what the topic some dingbat will bring the THW lobby.

If Jesus reads his post, he probably would buy a membership into the lobby.  We know he was Jewish !

Jesus would not be anywhere near Walmart Friday, that’s for sure.  You won’t ever see me shopping on black friday anyway.  I’m still hoping people will not buy Christmas this year.  We have so much power if we would just use some of it.  How hard would it be to curtail shopping and do family things instead…

What would Jesus buy?

A big bottle of hydrogen peroxide, a large box of Johnson and Johnson pads of dressing, surgical tape, a tube of Neosporin, and a big bottle of Anacin Extra Strength.

TDoff--kudos for a short but brilliant post that says it all.

For me almost everyday is buy nothing day. But it is somewhat involuntary on my part.

See Edna St Vincent Millay´s poem: “To Jesus on His Birthday.” Jim

#114893 by 1drees on 11/21 at 4:29 am: “...weird that they wasted him not believing to be “messenger” and ironically still waiting for theirs, who somehow has failed to show up, late by a couple of thousand years...”

This is the essential reality about the oldest of the three Abrahamic religions, 1drees. No “messiah” worth his/her salt would ever be bothered with them again, uhh.

You only get one chance in this “casting pearls before swine” free benefit or whatever one might call this “messenger from God” thing. They muffed it!

But, “buy(ing) a gun” is exactly what the “devil” wants you to do. Then you are on a downward path....... for sure!

#114788 by Mike Mid-City on 11/20 at 5:13 pm: “Jesus would weep at the way we celebrate his birth....”

Buy Nothing Days are becoming quite frequent for some people. But I think that Jesus wrote off the so-called christian church a long time ago. In return, they have kept him nailed to the cross....... on the wall where they can then go out and forget about him, uhh.

Amy,

Do you already have plans to see this movie?  Would you like to make a date of it?

Bill

Would Jesus invest in Exxon Mobil?

Boycotting on Friday, then consuming on Monday will not accomplish a whole lot.  It was the passage of NAFTA & the WTO which opened the door for America’s economic elite to outsource our manufacturing base in search of the sweat shop labor in China.  (I had been posting, “in search of the $2/day laborer” but this article suggests that that its the $1.26/day laborer).  This betrayal was brought to you courtesy of an alliance between Bill Clinton, Geo. H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, which rammed these so-called “free trade” agreements through on the fast track.

Right now there is one, and only one, presidential candidate who is advocating a repeal of NAFTA & the WTO--Dennis Kucinich.  If you are middle or working class and want to end the race to the bottom, better get with the Kucinich campaign because boycotting “Black Friday” in the long run won’t accomplish squat.

hmm, seeing as there is scant evidence that he existed at all, i think he really wouldn’t give a %^&#.

And why am i not surprised spurlock is behind this?  The man has as much integrity as cheney.  Look into the documentary at http://www.bowlingformorgan.com/ The fact is, if you eat 6,000 calories and don’t exercise, you gain weight, it doesn’t matter what you eat.  I could do the same thing at whole foods. 

Idiot with an ax to grind + fictional demigod = stupidity.  plain and simple.