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Posted on Nov 13, 2007

By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON—It turns out that Rudy Giuliani knows even less about health care than I thought. Not only are his figures about prostate cancer survival rates in the United States and Britain wildly misleading, but he’s also wrong on his general point: that a single-payer system, of the kind that Republicans call “socialized” medicine, inevitably would deliver inferior care.

    Untrue, according to a major study conducted earlier this year by the Commonwealth Fund, a respected New York foundation with a track record in health care stretching back to 1918. Not that candidate Giuliani is likely to pay attention—he won’t even back down from his ridiculous assertion that he was nearly twice as likely to survive his bout with prostate cancer in the U.S. than he would have been in the UK, despite the fact that death rates from the disease in the two countries are basically the same.

    For Giuliani, it appears, all that’s needed to establish truth is a simple assertion: “Because I said so.”

    The Commonwealth Fund and Harris Interactive surveyed adults in Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Britain—all of which have single-payer health care systems—and the United States. The methodology appears sound, the margin of error is less than 3 percent and the results are striking.

    Respondents in the United States were less likely than those in any of the other countries to say their health care system “works well”—and much more likely to see a need for “fundamental” change or a total overhaul. With 47 million Americans lacking health insurance, I suppose that shouldn’t be much of a surprise.

    What did surprise me was the wealth of data refuting the general criticism that single-payer health care systems are cold, impersonal and, well, uncaring. According to the survey, 80 percent of Americans have a regular doctor whom they usually see. That sounds pretty good, until you learn that 84 percent of Canadians, 88 percent of Australians, 89 percent of New Zealanders and Britons, 92 percent of Germans and 100 percent of Dutch respondents surveyed said they had regular doctors. Marcus Welby, M.D., seems to have emigrated.

    OK, but what about the long waits for treatment under single-payer systems? The survey found that 49 percent of Americans said they could get a same-day or next-day doctor’s appointment when they were sick—as opposed to 75 percent of respondents in New Zealand, 65 percent in Germany, 58 percent in Great Britain, and so on. Only in Canada was it more difficult to get in to see the doctor within 48 hours.

    It’s true that in the United States, the wait for elective surgery is likely to be shorter than in the other countries (except Germany, which has the shortest wait of all). But onerous delays of six months or more were significantly more common only in Australia, Canada and Britain.

    When you look at overall costs and outcomes, meanwhile, there’s no contest.

    The United States spends $6,697 per capita annually on health care, according to the survey—more than twice as much as any of the other countries surveyed. Americans were much more likely than any other national group to have spent at least $1,000 out of pocket on medical expenses over the past year. And, of course, 16 percent of Americans reported being uninsured, as opposed to essentially none in the other countries.

    It makes sense, then, that far more Americans than respondents in the other countries reported that in the past year they had failed to fill a prescription or skipped doses, experienced a medical problem but decided not to go to the doctor, or skipped a prescribed test, treatment or follow-up.

    And here’s the bottom line: The United States ranks dead last in life expectancy, at 77.9 years, among the countries surveyed. Britain is next-to-last at 78.7, while Australia is first at 80.6. The United States also has the worst infant mortality by far, at 6.89 per 1,000 live births; second-worst is New Zealand at 5.7. We’re paying more and dying more, or at least sooner. 

    American doctors do tend to give patients more information, and thus involve them more meaningfully in their own care. That’s a good thing, and I’d hate to give it up.

    In fact, I didn’t set out to write a brief for a single-payer health care system. I lived for a while in London, and felt that the UK’s National Health Service had pluses and minuses. I agree with Giuliani that if I had a life-threatening illness, I’d rather be treated here.

    But I have health insurance. Millions of Americans don’t.   

    Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.   

    © 2007, Washington Post Writers Group

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By Nancy, November 14, 2007 at 10:39 pm #
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They tried to give me drugs that were killing people and a known danger on public relief….

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By GW=MCHammered, November 14, 2007 at 6:03 am #
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Not to mention the more than one hundred thousand per year the US medical industry <u>admits</u> accidentally killing.

Missed kidney disease, diagnosed and treated but missing mental illness, caused two-month long psychosis, another repeatedly caused mania by misprescription, overlooked cancer, missed torn biceps, medical burn due to misprescribing, are just a few of my family’s experience with American health care. Would have been better off without insurance and guess what? Now we don’t have it!

The past 50 years demonstrated one of the greatest economic rises in human history and we end up like this? GOP & DEMS perpetuate societal problems, not fix them. Expect the status quo from either party. It’s time to change course - expel both ruinous parties.

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By Nancy, November 14, 2007 at 2:33 am #
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Greedy rich doctors scare the hell out of me. Maybe I should refuse ANY health-care that they offer me…it’s profits; not Americans that seem to matter these days….

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By Pacrat, November 13, 2007 at 8:37 am #
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Guliani is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier!

Why does anyone expect Rudy to be factual or even care about it. His life is a fiction except for the fact that he was indeed the mayor of NYC.

And, if elected to the presidency (God forbid) he would surround himself with other dummies, loyal to him and not to the country.

If he is the favorite of a lackluster group of republican nominees, may God bless America and save us from people like him!

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By thomas billis, November 13, 2007 at 8:00 am #
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Mr Robinson it warms the cockles of my heart that you have had your eureka moment.The logic of they live longer in other countries and if you had a life threatening problem you would rather be treated here baffles me.They must know something because people are living longer.What you have discovered was true when Truman proposed national health care and it was equally as true when Hillary did.It is the the dumb American public instead of reading the facts listens to two morons talking in an advertisement how bad universal health care is.Forget about the uninsured.What a shock many of the insured are in for when they have problems that require the okay of the insurance companies.The ww3 Bush talks about will be like a walk in the park.

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By anonymous, November 13, 2007 at 7:20 am #
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“American doctors do tend to give patients more information, and thus involve them more meaningfully in their own care. That’s a good thing, and I’d hate to give it up.”

failed to mention that with a single payer system, he would not have to—are Medicare patients given less information?

“I agree with Giuliani that if I had a life-threatening illness, I’d rather be treated here.”

nobody’s suggesting we send patients to the UK.  you’re gonna be treated here under any plan.

“But I have health insurance. Millions of Americans don’t. “

quit bragging!

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By G.Anderson, November 13, 2007 at 7:05 am #

Unfortunately, any system of health care that is brought forward will not provide much.

That’s is because the infrastructure of our health system is nearing collapse.

Ever wonder why you can’t pronounce your Dr.‘s Name?

It’s because has been the only driving force for the industry for the last several years.

Try finding an MD who is not retiring or on the verge of bankrupcy, in Rural California.

Single payor, indeed any reform, unless it addresses infrastructure needs will not solve any problems.

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By mary, November 13, 2007 at 6:43 am #

The only way we will get to a single payer system is when we vote out every incumbent in office today. These people are far to indebted to the insurance and pharma industries to ever do the right thing.  Everytime I think about how our tax dollars are treated like corp profits for the DCers to use as they want, I feel like punching someone in the nose.  It’s clear Sen Clinton will not do the right thing if elected, she’s too worried about re-election already!  My money is still with John Edwards.  He seems to see the political advantage to a single payer system, as well as doing away with the strangle hold insurance cos have on our health.  Too bad we can’t get the media to push all the candidates for their solutions to this huge problem.  Let rudy keep on spewing the crap he keeps throwing up, Ameicans actually get it.  I would love to see the media made irrelevant in this process. Maybe then they will decide to actually produce real news, just like the old days…....

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By waxman, November 13, 2007 at 6:04 am #

HOW DARE YOU SAY RUDY KNOWS LESS THAN YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HEALTH CARE !!!! RUDY NOWS JUST ABOUT 9-11 EVERYTHING ABOUT 9-11 ANYTHING IN THE 9-11 WORLD 9-11 ..WHAT HE DOSEN’T 9-11 KNOW, HIS ADVERTISING AGENT 9-11 SEAN HANNITY KNOWS BECAUSE HIS SISTER IS A NURSE AND HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW IS A DOCTOR…WHAT A GREAT PAIR OF LIARS THEY MAKE…IN DRAG RUDY LOOKS A LOT LIKE ANN COULTER DOSEN’ T HE ???

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By KISS, November 13, 2007 at 6:01 am #

While comparisons make for good reading, there is no reason ” Single Payer” insurance could not be better here in the US than anywhere else. We do not need to emulate the worst of the other systems, we have an advantage to take the best parts and build on them. 47 million Americans would accept the worst of any system over what they have now, and that is nothing.
“Sicko” points out the fallacy of our system, but Insurance and Big Pharma’s don’t want us to know the truth.
When are the dimmos ready to tackle this problem in the sun-light?

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