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Posted on Nov 12, 2007
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Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey, Hedges argues, may have the power and the inclination to prevent a war with Iran.

By Chris Hedges

The last, best hope for averting a war with Iran lies with the United States military. The Democratic Congress, cowed by the Israel lobby and terrified of appearing weak on defense before the presidential elections, will do nothing to halt an attack. The media, especially the electronic press, is working overtime to whip up fear of a nuclear Iran and tar Tehran with abetting attacks against American troops in Iraq. The American public is complacent, unsure of what to believe, knocked off balance by fear and passive. We will be saved or doomed by our generals.

The last wall of defense that prevents the Bush administration from targeting Iran, an attack that could ignite a regional conflagration and usher in apocalyptic scenarios in the Middle East, runs through the offices of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates; Adm. William Fallon , the head of the Central Command (CENTCOM); and Gen. George Casey, the Army’s new chief of staff. These three figures in the defense establishment have told George W. Bush and the Congress how depleted the U.S. military has become, that it cannot manage another conflict, and that a war with Iran would make the war with Iraq look like an act of prudence and common sense.

The reliance on the military command, however, to be the voice of reason in the debate about a new war is not a healthy sign for our deteriorating democracy. Compliant generals can always be found to carry out the Dr. Strangelove designs of a mad White House. Those who resist implementing decisions can easily be removed. The protective cover provided by these figures in the defense establishment could vanish.

The United States is able to launch a massive and devastating air attack on Iran’s military installations. It can obliterate the Iranian air force. It can cripple if not dismantle effective communications and military command and control. It can destroy some of Iran’s underground nuclear facilities. But our intelligence inside Iran, as was true in Iraq, is uneven. We do not know where all of Iran’s nuclear facilities are. And it is probable that an Iranian response against American targets, such as the Green Zone in Iraq, as well as Iranian-sponsored terrorist attacks on American soil, would follow. Shiites in the region would interpret an attack as a war on the Shiite community and would unleash unrest, terrorism and violence against us and our allies from Lebanon to Pakistan.

The battle is between the Cheney camp, which would like to carry out strikes on Iran before Bush leaves office, and Gates and his senior generals. Cheney, who has always been able to push aside the feckless Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, is having a tougher time with the military. Fallon, for example, was successful in his attempt to block efforts by Cheney to move a third aircraft carrier into the Persian Gulf earlier this year and bluntly said that “there would be no war against Iran” as long as he was chief of CENTCOM.

Gen. Casey informed Congress this fall that the Army was “out of balance” and added: “The demand for our forces exceeds the sustainable supply. We are consumed with meeting the demands of the current fight, and are unable to provide ready forces as rapidly as necessary for other potential contingencies.”

This White House has a habit of dismissing recalcitrant generals. Gen. Eric Shinseki, when he was chief of staff of the Army, ended his career when he told the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee on the eve of the war in Iraq that “something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers” would probably be required for postwar Iraq. Gen. Peter Pace also ran afoul of the White House and was not nominated for a second term as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when he publicly defied Donald Rumsfeld. At a press conference in November 2005 he stood next to Rumsfeld as the secretary of defense asserted that “the United States does not have a responsibility” to prevent torture by Iraqi officials. Pace pointedly disagreed with Rumsfeld, saying, “It is the absolute responsibility of every U.S. service member, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene, to stop it.” Pace also openly dismissed White House claims that Iran was supplying weapons and explosively formed penetrators to Iraqi insurgents. He too was shown the door.

The White House, isolated and reviled at home and abroad, believes it is on a higher mission to save the world from itself. The instability in the Middle East could undermine Gates and his generals. A limited Israeli strike on suspected Iranian nuclear production facilities, currently under discussion in Jerusalem, could trigger retaliatory strikes by Iran on Israel and U.S. targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf.  The clamor for revenge, fueled by a rapacious right-wing media, coupled with our feelings of collective humiliation, could sweep aside all reasoned objections to war with Iran. It happened after the attacks of 2001. It can happen again.

There is a petition circulating that was put together by Marcy Winograd from the Progressive Democrats. The petition is addressed to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and all U.S. military personnel. It urges them to defy orders to attack Iran. It points out that a pre-emptive war with Iran is a war crime under international law. It reminds military personnel of the statute in the Army Field Manual 27-10, Section 609, and Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 92, that states: “A general order or regulation is lawful unless it is contrary to the Constitution, the law of the United States. ...”

The petition notes that any provision of an international treaty ratified by the United States becomes the law of the United States. The United States is a party and signatory to the United Nations Charter, of which Article II, Section 4, states, “All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. ...”

Iran has not attacked the United States. The U.S., as a party and signatory to the U.N. charter, would be in clear violation of international law and the laws enshrined in the Constitution if it went to war with Iran. If the citizens and their representatives in Congress refuse to resist and uphold the rule of law, perhaps the military can be prodded to halt our slide into despotism. It is not the best option, but it may be the only one left.

We live now at the mercy of events. A provocation by Iran, aided by a bellicose White House, could plunge us into another war. It could unleash the primitive chant for violence and revenge that rises up from a population that feels vulnerable, uncertain and afraid. There are forces in our society ready and willing to fan the blood lust for a wider circle of war and mayhem. The Iranians, like us, are cursed by their leadership. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is as primitive, inept and paranoid as George Bush. They are the perfect dance partners for a waltz into Armageddon.

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By ender, November 14, 2007 at 10:30 am #
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• The public faces of gov’t are not the true power brokers in the US.  Most are not on the ‘list of wealthiest people’ either.  Bill Gates has more influence on our national policy than you or I, but not significantly more.  Bush, Cheney, and Rummy may have been an “Axis of Evil” but neither they and the think tank kids like Rove and Libby are just tools of the old money families where money is in private businesses and trust with unclear ownership and control.
The elite most likely look at the monkeys in the White House as dumb kids just having a little fun. 
If they start WWIII, so what?  The small group of families that wield true power are so international and own enough of all of the channels of wealth, that any calamity only funnels more wealth upward.  They can’t lose.  And I suspect they get a secret pleasure in a time such as this when we are shown we are sheep with no real control of our national policy or direction.
If you think the Democrats are any different you are sadly mistaken.  They work for the same people and that ain’t you or me.
The American economy is vaporware.  We produce very little, while even food production, one of our most prolific resources, is now only part of a global supply chain that can be turned off overnight if we misbehave.  They don’t need us anymore, hence the open borders, free trade, offshoring and H-1B workers widen the gap and keep us invested in the survival of conspicuous consumerism as our national religion.
The only real threat to that elite in recent years has been Iraq engaging in oil trade in Euros vs the Dollar, and Iran threatening to do so. The Federal Reserve issues money on an imaginary value that actually is tied to the world’s largest commodity market, Oil.  If the dollar becomes unhinged from the oil market, any intrinsic value is lost, and the emperor’s new close aren’t there anymore.
That is why the only way Iran can avoid being the ‘cause of WWIII’ is to rejoin the Dollar base oil bourse.  Saddam refused and we saw his fake execution.  The Iranian people probably won’t be so lucky.
Israel is a convenient tool to maintain the unrest in the Mideast that keeps despots in power.  We can deal with despots.  Educated, thinking humans that attempt to exercise control over their own lives are much harder to deal with.  As long as they are busy hating and scratching out an existence in ignorance, the money and power just keep flowing up.

What I’m saying, is that we cannot count on Hillary to be any less hawkish on Iran than Dick Bush.  The decision to attack Iran is probably coming from someone ABOVE BUSH’S PAY GRADE.  If that is the case, only a determined military or armed insurection will stop them.  I could be wrong on this, and just a little paranoid, but I have been studying the methods and reasoning of the ruling elite in this country for more than 30 yrs, and this has all of the markings of their work.

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By ocjim, November 14, 2007 at 10:30 am #
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#113519 by alicecbrown on 11/14 at 8:45 am:

We are in this together. Think of the depression and despair felt by the German people after Hitler. His reign was much worse. History is cyclical. A force—in this case greed, self-centered ideology, and narcissism—can be overcome by reason and compassion. We are the beginning of this wave. The 2006 vote was a start. The Democrats have so far failed to do our will, but it takes persistance.

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By Bert, November 14, 2007 at 9:46 am #
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What, cold feet? They already willingly waltzed into
one oil war, why not a followup? Uncle Dick wants
to drill oil wells all over the middle east, he and
his pals have ungodly amounts of money, and if you’ll
just sign this piece of paper then they can have
their own private armies etc.

My question is ‘why is it that all the FORMER generals seem to pretty much unanimously give this
entire enterprise the ‘thumbs down’. I can only
speak for myself, but I’ll never wear the uniform
again of my own volition. I love my country, but fuck the army. And I mean that in the nicest way
possible.

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By LibertyWatch, November 14, 2007 at 8:52 am #
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“They are the perfect dance partners for a waltz into Armageddon.” C.H.

well said sir!

It seems we have fallen into a reliance on the quality of our military academies and the leaders brought forward by the corporate war merchants.

Not 100% reassuring?

PEACE by popular demand!

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By alicecbrown, November 14, 2007 at 8:45 am #
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As we become further the society depicted in ‘1984’, especially the perpetual war for perpetual peace fable depicted in that black world of crumbling infrstructure, I am filled with despair for my grandchildren.
As my ancestors came to these shores in search of freedom, I wonder if they might not live happier, more fulfilled lives as Scandinavians, for example.
what do you think? 
Is there anything short of revolution we can do to TRULY get represented by our oppressive lying government?

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By b billy marse, November 14, 2007 at 7:47 am #
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By mary, November 14, 2007 at 7:44 am #
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The most interesting part of this article is all the deep, insightful comments.  I’m thinking maybe Americans are starting to get it.  If this is the case, I believe a lot of our military is on the same page also.  What if the two morons do decide to send bombers to Iran and the military resists and our Congress finally decides to hold this administration responsible.  This would be the America I always thought we were.  It was just a thought.......

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By cyrena, November 14, 2007 at 3:41 am #
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Well, this scares the shit out of me, because I honestly was naïve enough to think that some semblance of reason would prevail. I’ve always had this idea that ‘there are more of us than there are of them”,(Dick Bush)and we see that matters not a whit.

But, to respond to the suggestions from Ernest and Non Credo, I admit that I thought/believed (like Chris I guess) that the militarys refusal to follow these orders would in fact be the only thing to save us. Maybe I was just being naïve/optimistic.  Maybe I was just assuming, (which I generally try to avoid) that EVEYBODY would figure out, that Iran was NEVER a THREAT to US!!! Quite frankly, I’ve never believed them to be a ‘threat’ to anybody, even in their own region.

On the other hand, I’m not so naïve as to NOT know that they WILL retaliate against any strike against them, just like absolutely any other person or nation will do if they are attacked. The fact that Iraq did NOT, (at least initially) was because they COULD NOT, considering that Iraq was already militarily and economically broken by the time that Dick Bush arranged the hit on them. So, it took nothing to invade and occupy THAT country, and of course they knew that. (which is why I assumed they did it).

But, they HAVE to know that Iran CAN strike back, and that they WILL!! Now of course we can all sit back and say, oh well…. We’re here in America, and we’re too far away for them to get US in a retaliatory strike. But then, what Chris writes in his article is all too likely a scenario. Of COUSE they could.

Now we can suggest that the Israelis, (who surely don’t want to be retaliated against by Iran either) could say something. But, should we assume that they TOO, have no power over their leadership? I mean, Israel is 7 million people if I’m correct. And, while they probably have 14 million nukes, what real good is it gonna do for them to put themselves in a position to be retaliated against by Iran? Do they not understand that this would destroy them? Seriously.

We might all claim that Ahmadinejad is as crazy as Dick Bush, and it certainly may appear that way. On the other hand, I would argue that for the past 4 or 5 years, Dick Bush has done everything imaginable to annoy the guy. So, while I don’t believe that he STARTED OUT as crazy as Dick Bush, how long do you think you can agitate, threaten, bully, harass, and basically dog out another person/country – crazy or otherwise, and not eventually get them to strike back? I mean, if Ahmadinejad really WAS as insane and illogical as Dick Bush, and if he was the ONLY one running the show in Iran and making these decisions, (which he is NOT) then he would have done something crazy long ago. But, he isn’t the only one running the show, (unlike Dick Bush) and he’s actually shown a considerable amount of restraint, all things considered.

So, who’s really crazy here? And, I would pose the same question that Verne Arnold has. What are WE gonna do about Dick Bush? “We the people” have no bone to pick with Iran. NONE. They haven’t DONE anything to US, and they are too far away to be a threat, even if they HAD nukes, which they DO NOT. But, does anybody reasonably believe that Russia won’t help them out if they come under attack by the US or Israel? Well, that would be just a suicidal assumption. Of COURSE they would!

Where does Dick Bush plan to HIDE from all of this retaliation? Surely not Israel!! Does cheney have a special bunker in Dubai that’s gonna withstand all of this? Did he build that into the Halliburton headquarters there?

For whatever the reason, I’ve never believed that Cheney was into all of the Armageddon and Rapture stuff like the rest of these crazies. Maybe boy george is that crazy, and nobody has sense enough to put him in a padded cell, but cheney MUST know better.

I don’t believe Israel is this suicidal either. What in the hell is going on?

Just because this was their plan from the beginning, doesn’t make it any less stupid.

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By John See, November 14, 2007 at 3:28 am #
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Saved by the generals?  An American junta?
I hope that Hedges is right.
But the logic is not that the military opposes beating up on yet another country, only that it is impractical at this time.
Generals still view war as a means of accomplishing national objectives, but only wars
that they think they can win.
The essential observation is that NOTHING the military has done recently has been in defense either of the Constitution or our freedoms, except perhaps the freedoms to invade other countries, depose their governments, slaughter their civilians, impose our form of government upon them, and rationalize our behavior as being for the good of others.
I wonder whether, when our warrior heroes lie on their death beds, they’ll have become mature enough to recognize, acknowledge and perhaps even have the decency to regret the horrendous atrocities propagated on our ‘enemies’ and ourselves in the name of our national self-interest.  Certainly a few Vietnam and Korean war vets have come to see the truth of that.
In fact, soldiers and the military are the enablers of our foreign adventures.  Were they not willing to sacrifice their independence and integrity on the altar of militarism, we would not be able to impose our wills on other peoples.

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By lennybruce, November 14, 2007 at 3:01 am #
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It is fascinating to read Adm Fallon’s comment to Cheney, “there would be no war against Iran” while he is head of CENTCOM. If indeed it comes down to a few generals to stop the insanity of an attack on Iran then it could herald a fascinating and somewhat unnerving constitutional crisis.

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By Nancy, November 14, 2007 at 2:30 am #
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After all your ‘self-examining’ scathing inventory gets done...can we check out the military leaders we have? Some are no better than ‘some’ preachers.

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 13, 2007 at 9:13 pm #
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#113327 by Non Credo on 11/13 at 11:17 am: “...as long as we’re dreaming, imagine this: what if someone could convince the government of Israel that bombing Iran is a crazy idea that would gravely endanger Israel..... But Israel does want this war. We need to change Israel’s mind. If we can’t, no one can stop this war. That’s just the political reality. Stop calling your congressmen. Call AIPAC....”

I hope that people are finally starting to see this, Non Credo. There is hardly any time left. Let’s assume that Israel, like the USA, also has a significant percentage of their population who don’t want war and are being manipulated by their own government (what’s new, eh).

I’ve already been trying to point out that Israel - all the people, both good + bad - will most likely be wiped off the map in WW3. It will be the Russians most likely who would do it and in retaliation for their or the USA’s bombing the Russian-built reactor in Iran.

The Israelis are being drawn into a position where they must act themselves soon too. If they insist on destroying power plants in peaceful countries, the will no longer be able to get away with it. Whatever happens, if this attack on Iran goes ahead, it will eventually be the end for Israel!!!

Finally, that “no one can stop this war” without Israel’s ‘permission’ is, of course, NOT true, Non Credo. Americans are the ‘deciders’ and they can take a stick to Israel if they must. Its their own fantasies and weak-willed behaviour which is being manipulated to their own detriment.

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 13, 2007 at 8:58 pm #
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#113342 by ocjim on 11/13 at 1:20 pm: “...Any BushCo decisions never seem to involve practicalities like individual rights, availability of funds, or manpower. All decisions revolve around politics and self-interest....... That is why I believe he will wait a few months before attacking Iran. It will be a limited attack against the forces he says are aiding the Iraqi insurgents...... Then when Iran retaliates, he anticipates American people supporting escalation. At that point they expect Hillary to have the nomination sewed up and the people to reject a female as president during time of heightened war....”

That is very interesting, ocjim. There are a number of possible scenarios. The one thing is that the Neocons have no interest in peace or peaceful prosperity for all nations. They don’t understand it, uhh.

That all of Bush’s decisions “revolve around politics and self-interest” is an indicator of the white house following the “art of war” doctrine rather than any genuine freedom or democracy concepts. One thing that is fundamental is that all forms of deception are employed - including with one’s own people.

That is why an attack against Iran could be manipulated through Israel or very soon. Also, leaving India exposed to a volatile Pakistan puts them in a position of being forced to act decisively soon too. Bush + Co are learning their evil craft, if slowly. Just as well those Texan macho f@ckwits don’t take any notice of Condi or they would be ruling the entire planet by now!!!

Well, it depends on how Americans are going to see things in the end - if there still is an election next year. They could be so thoroughly sick of Bush and his war-mongering that they will be glad to be rid of him even if there is an invasion of Iran or another 9/11 terrorist farce. My guess is that it will all backfire on the Republicans.......

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By Non Credo, November 13, 2007 at 7:55 pm #
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re: #113394 by Non Credo on 11/13 at 7:19 pm:

Oh God; I guess I’m tired.

I did not mean to write “How can anyone fail to miss the point, after Paolo has made it so well?”

I meant, of course, “How can anyone fail to see the point, after Paolo has made it so well?

OK, now I will just go crawl in a little hole somewhere until the embarrassment subsides....

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By Non Credo, November 13, 2007 at 7:19 pm #
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re: #113383 by Paolo on 11/13 at 6:36 pm:

What an incredibly economical and powerful summary of the facts!

How can anyone fail to miss the point, after Paolo has made it so well?

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By Joe, November 13, 2007 at 6:42 pm #
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Let us observe few events happening in region, US military covert/overt support of terrorist activities inside of Iran has backfired dramatically, Déjà vu of US support for Arab insurgents in 1980’s,
Insurgency in Arabestan part of Iran have been shifted to southern Iraq between local militia.
Insurgency in Kurdish part of Iran have being shifted to conflict between Kurds and Turks in Iraq.
Riots in Iranian Azerbaijan have been contained and Azerbaijan Republic is tamed by virtue of being hostage to Georgia political outcome which control her only un-hostile border.
Insurgency in Baluchistan part of Iran which has shifted to chaos and near collapse of Pakistani state and everyone is familiar with current Afghanistan ongoing insurgency.
In positive side Iraq situation have improved somewhat and unlike in Afghanistan/Iran/US deal, US better give some credit to Iran and start getting out of Iraq while she have opportunity to do so in dignified manner.
With Afghanistan-Iraq-Pakistan-Turks and Kurds being one small push away from at least a regional war and total collapse of others not to mention other Muslim world and Persian Gulf states, I wonder if US still have a wishful thoughts of successful attack on Iran with potential 1.2 billion adversaries!

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By Paolo, November 13, 2007 at 6:36 pm #
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Who overthrew the democratically elected President of Iran back in 1953?

You got it! The USA!

Who started Iran’s nuclear energy program, way back in the 1970’s, when it was ruled by a brutal tyrant?

You got it! The USA!

Who sold WMD’s to Iraq for use in their war against Iran?

You got it! The USA!

Gosh, those Iranians are so unreasonable for distrusting the USA, aren’t they?

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By mythbreaker, November 13, 2007 at 4:22 pm #
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Israel moves to another Planet and the World breaks out in sincere Peace.

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By Mossada, November 13, 2007 at 3:38 pm #
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So Long as the CARLYLE GROUP has money to make from a War with Iran then it WILL happen.

The same Carlyle Group which has the Bin Laden Family and Bush Snr and Frank Carlucci and James Baker and, and, and, etc., etc.

Wouldn’t it be funny (in a sick way) if Bill Clinton was also involved in this

I know, I know, I know...."How Dare You!!!!”

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By jbart, November 13, 2007 at 3:05 pm #
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test, test

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By ocjim, November 13, 2007 at 1:20 pm #
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Any BushCo decisions never seem to involve practicalities like individual rights, availability of funds, or manpower. All decisions revolve around politics and self-interest. That is why I believe he will wait a few months before attacking Iran. It will be a limited attack against the forces he says are aiding the Iraqi insurgents. Then when Iran retaliates, he anticipates American people supporting escalation. At that point they expect Hillary to have the nomination sewed up and the people to reject a female as president during time of heightened war. Never mind that it came because of him. Even if Hillary isn’t a shoe in, the Republican candidates have all been extremely warlike, seeming to expect a Bush attack on Iran. Maybe they were briefed.

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By Non Credo, November 13, 2007 at 11:17 am #
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I’m not so sure that military resistance is our best hope.

But as long as we’re dreaming, imagine this: what if someone could convince the government of Israel that bombing Iran is a crazy idea that would gravely endanger Israel?

Imagine the Israelis then getting the word out, to AIPAC and all the other major Jewish and pro-Israel organizations, that Israel adamantly opposes a war against Iran. Imagine the lobby taking the position that bombing Iran is “anti-Israel”. Imagine the Israel lobby launching a barrage of angry phone calls and emails at Congress, at the major Presidential candidates of both parties, at newspapers and television stations across America, demanding that the US drop its plans for war against Iran.

This whole thing would stop dead in its tracks.

But Israel does want this war. We need to change Israel’s mind. If we can’t, no one can stop this war. That’s just the political reality. Stop calling your congressmen. Call AIPAC.

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By jbart, November 13, 2007 at 4:59 am #
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#113094 by purplewolf on 11/12 at 8:55 am
Purplewolf,
My personal favorite from the “good old days” is…
“What if they had a war....and no one came”?

The Graphic? Tricky Dick, all by himself with his shadow.  To sleep, per chance to dream.

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By Non Credo, November 13, 2007 at 4:05 am #
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#113229 by Outraged on 11/12 at 8:30 pm:

I hope your hope is justified. Sometimes I don’t know what to do except grouch about events that seem utterly unstoppable. I march on the streets, there’s no coverage. It’s like it never happened. I call my Congressman, and I get some underling who promises blandly to convey my message; or I get a return email from my senator consisting of robotic, AIPAC-approved boilerplate.

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By Roy Eidelson, November 13, 2007 at 3:15 am #
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The White House’s propaganda campaign laying the groundwork for military action against Iran dates back almost six years—to Bush’s 2002 State of the Union address in which he designated Iran as a founding member of the “axis of evil.” Since then, this drumbeat has waxed and waned as other concerns—primarily the disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq—have often commanded center stage. Now, with the Bush administration approaching its final year in office, a renewed push and a shorter fuse are increasingly evident. My 3-minute YouTube video entitled “Forewarned Is Forearmed: Bush On Iran” is available HERE. It offers a very brief but deeply troubling chronicle of the president’s public warmongering and demonization of Iran.  As has been said before, “the hour is getting late.”

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By Andy Lyons, November 12, 2007 at 10:29 pm #
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Hasn’t the United States got more then enough on it’s hands already with Iraq and Afghanistan? The third time sure won’t be a charm.

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By Outraged, November 12, 2007 at 8:30 pm #
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RE:#113201 by Non Credo on 11/12

“The same military that has been taken over by violent and fanatical Christian Zionist extremists?”

Remember Non Credo, some but not ALL of our military.  The decent are there and we need to support them.  I agree this thing has gotten “out of hand” so to speak.  But let’s not burn the bridges to “salvation”.  They are trying to “convert” many soldiers, however is it working?  I think not.  The majority join for their country or otherwise, but NOT for their religion.  They are not stupid.

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By b billy marse, November 12, 2007 at 8:23 pm #
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Geologist discovers link to the next 911 in global warning policy

http://www.H2onE2.com Glacial Respiration, Conceptual Ring of Ice, The End of Linear Western Religion
A Geological Exploration of an E2 Earthen Planet And the H2 Human Species
Author: B Billy Marse, Professional Geologist

Brief Description:
http://www.H2onE2.com is an exploration of the universe, geology, climate, biology, humans, psychology, folklore and ancient structures to uncover the beginning and disclose the end of linear western religion. The true DaVinci Code behind the bible is not a supreme spiritual power but a scientific record of climate change described as Glacial Respiration. The Greek philosophers originated the practice of communicating a hidden idea or message in the short story format, as a metaphor. In the bible, metaphors conceal historic climate change within the fanciful stories. The theory of Glacial Respiration explains the myth behind the Holy Grail, structures such as the Great Pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island and is the knowledge that was collected in the Jewish Ark of the Covenant.

The environmental changes of Glacial Respiration determine all biological evolution and can explain why higher forms of intelligent humans developed. Further, Glacial Respiration releases the secret hidden by the Knights Templars, Masonic Order and all religions. Uncovers an advanced Blue-Blooded semi-industrial Atlantian Civilization that was built and destroyed many times over for the last million years. The book ends with an explanation of how linear western religion will be physically ended and describes the construction of the doomsday device capable of fulfilling its own self defining prophesy, “Revelations”.  H2onE2 is a mind-expanding experience that stimulates the soul, instinct, intellect and is an almanac to the past, present and future of humanity. Rise, awaken and evolve into H3 human consciousness.

The discovery:
As a Professional Geologist, I attempted to link the Dust Bowl/Great Depression to a pre-glacial condition or mechanism and ended up writing the book H2onE2. I felt that there was a strong connection between the Dust Bowl and transition back into Glacial Winter. I did notice that my professors scientifically crumbled every time I mentioned the relationship. I could not go back in time or locate indisputable proof. The proof came from understanding all educational disciplines including history and theology. I soon discovered that all religious text both eastern and western continually described significant climate change conditions relating to Glacial Respiration. For years I fought off mixing science and religion until I discovered that the origins of all religions were founded or created to help humans psychologically survive the harsh earthen environment. Without reason I soon accepted that the world’s complicated religions were the same. This came true and I continued to write and discover. Everything came into place as though I was unlocking a 10,000-year-old puzzle. I also realized this puzzle was opened before I discovered it, by someone else, some other group. If so, further understanding of this knowledge might be extracted from significant historical events. Lastly, this is the vital information needed to make future predictions.

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By Non Credo, November 12, 2007 at 4:52 pm #
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“The last, best hope for averting a war with Iran lies with the United States military.”
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Oh really? The same military that has been taken over by violent and fanatical Christian Zionist extremists?

“Gee, guys, we know that bringing on Armageddon is your fondest wish, but could you please put that aside for now and save the country from the neocons’ next war?”

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By don knutsen, November 12, 2007 at 3:44 pm #
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I have yet to read anyone articulating our present situation any better the Rocky Anderson did recently, the mayor of Salt Lake City. Though he must make the other politicians from that ultra-conservative state cringe - he’s right on the money....

this is well worth the read

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/110907E.shtml#

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By Frank, November 12, 2007 at 1:53 pm #
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caption for the article photo....

Senator Criag?  What are you doing under my podium.....ohhh....OOooooOOOoooooo..

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By alicecbrown, November 12, 2007 at 1:12 pm #
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I knew there was some reason that I supported Kucinich besides the fact that he is either ignored or ridiculed by the PRAVDA ‘hosts’ on those ‘debates’ where the Dems try to devour one another instead of the election-stealing Republicans.  I immediately went to Kucinich’s web site and donated money when I read the Nation article by my idol, Gore Vidal.
Thanks so much for giving him an outlet.  He must not die, as he is irreplaceable.  Too bad about Norman Mailer, though.

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By alice, November 12, 2007 at 12:11 pm #
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Oil, Israel and war profits are again in the saddle.  The Democrats have been reduced to jello again and Guiliani is already preparing for war.  His war cabinet is forming and it will give him the emergency powers he needs to further reduce democracy.  Bush has greatly weakened our miltiary, our international standing, our security and our economy.  Yet Democrats quiver in their boots for fear of appearing “weak.” Really grim.

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By ender, November 12, 2007 at 11:11 am #
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When I learned of D. Kucinich submission of request for impeachment against Cheney, I joined his campaign and sent money, and will send money until he is elected or eliminated.  The rest of the Dems are not worth our time.  If impeachment proceedings begin, the honorable Generals that remain will have that much more legal precedence for viewing orders to begin an aggressive attack on Iran as illegal.  If Generals can find anyway to agree that the adminstration cannot declare war without congress, perhaps they can stop it from happening.

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By Ga, November 12, 2007 at 11:04 am #
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And just what did Gen. Ricardo Sanchez say when asked why he didn’t speak up earlier?

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20071012_f ormer_top_general_calls_bush_incompetent/

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By felicity, November 12, 2007 at 10:58 am #
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SAM S. #113109 - To add some heft to your last points.  Reagan ‘managed’ to burden us with a $1 trillion debt - more than all previous presidents put together.  Not to be outdone by the ‘fiscally conservative’ Reagan, George the Brilliant has ‘managed’ to burden us with a $9 trillion national debt.

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By bigjimbo, November 12, 2007 at 10:35 am #
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My oath of loyalty was and is to the Constitution, not to a criminal and delusional administration. Another unconstitutional, unjust and criminal war would be ample justification to liberate the US.

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 12, 2007 at 10:20 am #
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An Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman decried the Americans weapons deal… “What the Persian Gulf region needs is stability and security,” said Mohammad-Ali Hosseini. “Americans have been trying to disturb it by selling weapons to the region.”

The two-seat Su-30 is a popular Russian export fighter. Models are already in service with the Chinese, Indian and other militaries, and there are variants deigned for naval aviation. The fighter can carry a maximum weapons payload of more than 17,000 pounds, according to Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft, and has a range, on internal fuel, of about 1,620 nautical miles, but that can be extended to 2,805 nautical miles with one midair refuel......

The Su-30’s listed performance capabilities are comparable to or better than the three primary American fighters deployed to Iraq: the Navy’s carrier-based F/A-18 Hornet and the Air Force’s F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon.....” http://www.navytimes.com/news/2007/07/navy_iran_fighte rs_070730w/

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 12, 2007 at 10:13 am #
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For some reason,that JPost link won’t validate. Try searching “Iran to buy jets from Russia” and click on the JPost Jul 30, 2007 report.......

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 12, 2007 at 10:07 am #
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113109 by SamSnedegar on 11/12 at 9:50 am: “...There will be no “war” with Iran, only a defanging operation which will keep them from flying to the aid of the Emirates, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and wherever else we go next to steal oil. We just cannot have Iran sitting there with missiles, submarines, airplanes, and trained troops who might come to the aid of their fellow mideast countries...”

Please, Sam, this is the REAL REASON:-

Russia To Sell 250 Sukhoi-30 Long-Range Fighter Jets To Iran - “In what looks to be its next move in the high stakes chess match against the United States, Iran is to purchase 250 Sukhoi-30 long-range fighter jets from Russia as part of a massive multi-billion dollar arms deal. Additionally, Iran will acquire several aerial fuel tankers that will effectively extend the range of the Sukhoi-30 fighters by thousands of kilometers — giving Iran the capability to launch long-range offensive strikes......

The Sukhoi-30 is a dual seat, multi-role fighter jet that has the ability to operate in poor weather conditions at great distances from home base. It has extensive combat capabilities including air patrol, air defense, ground attacks, enemy air defense suppression and air-to-air combat....” http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=11853790348 35&pagename=JPost&#x2F;JPArticle&#x2F;ShowFull< /a> and scroll down to article.

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By SamSnedegar, November 12, 2007 at 9:50 am #
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“The last, best hope for averting a war with Iran lies with the United States military.”

Please . . .

There will be no “war” with Iran, only a defanging operation which will keep them from flying to the aid of the Emirates, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and wherever else we go next to steal oil. We just cannot have Iran sitting there with missiles, submarines, airplanes, and trained troops who might come to the aid of their fellow mideast countries as the USA marauds about pilfering oil to save its economy from the deep ocean of debt into which the Reagan forces sent it.

To be fair, I suspect that the marionette manipulators for poor stupid Bush ARE the Reagan crowd come back to “make it right” since they are responsible for our economic downfall, but of course there is no “fix” for what they did to us, just stopgap holding operations which keep our heads barely above water but can never solve the problem.

What is the problem? We have no wealth left. You can print all the worthless money you like, but with nothing backing it up, it remains worthless.

Anyway, we will have a grand depression this time, maybe on the 100th anniversary of the 1929 one, maybe sooner.

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By Paul Sunstone, November 12, 2007 at 9:25 am #
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I supported the Democrats last year thinking, “Well, they aren’t much better than the Republicans, but at least they’ll keep us out of Iran.” How foolish to have thought that!  The Democrats won’t be getting any more of my money.

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By Jonas South, November 12, 2007 at 9:19 am #
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Hammo #113086

‘Dianne Feinstein (and her husband who makes millions in the defense industry)...’

Feinstein sits on the Senate Appropriations Committee, while she owns half of a defense contractor business. (California is a community property state; every other dollar earned by the couple is hers to keep.)

Can anyone explain to me why she is not up on ethics charge for not recusing herself from all defense related matters, including war with Iran.

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 12, 2007 at 9:02 am #
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#113071 by Non Credo on 11/12 at 7:22 am: “...But if the military does rebel, and stops the war, then we set a dangerous precedent of military rejection of civilian authority. This may soften us up for military rule, as the military basks in our gratitude for its having “saved the country”....”

Its nothing new, Non Credo. Check Fidel “Eddie” Ramos:- “....was the son of a diplomat and legislator who served as Philippines Secretary of Foreign Affairs. After winning a government scholarship to the United States Military Academy at West Point and studying engineering at the University of Illinois, he saw active service in the Korean War and was Chief of Staff (1966-1968) to the Philippine Civil Action Group in Vietnam......

A revolution in the Philippines that drove President Ferdinand Marcos from power..... Fidel Valdez Ramos, military hero of the 1986 Philippine People Power Revolution in February 1986 and victor in the first multi-party presidential elections of the country, became the 12th President of the Republic of the Philippines on June 30, 1992. He has anchored his government on his philisophy of people empowerment as the engine to “operationalize economic growth, social equity and national solidarity”.... http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Pool/1644/ramos.html

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By purplewolf, November 12, 2007 at 8:55 am #
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If the Bush/Cheney war mongers are so hot to start another war perhaps it is time for the people to allow them. However,only the leaders of these warring countries are to be the ones to fight it. Like the television commercial of the 1970’s about war, take the leaders up on a mountain top (so they are closer to their God) and let them fight it out among themselves. This would save countless lives, cities, buildings, the earth itself, and money, and all the grief and suffering that the way war is done now cause.

When bullies want to pick a fight with someone who they don’t like for whatever their current reason happens to be, they don’t do it, they have their peon followers do it for them. Take away their crutch and let the bullies be the ones responsible for their own fights, then their true color-that of the cowards they truely are will be known to all. As long as they have others do their dirty work for them, it is of no consequence to them and it means nothing. If these bullies had a ounce of integrity they would resolve their differences in a more adult manner, rather than the sort of temper tantrum of war as they do now.

So for the next chapter of this destruction of mass stupidity send in Bush/Cheney, and any ruler of whatever country Bush/Cheney have a bone to pick with next. It will be over before it begins as we all know true cowards will not fight their own wars.

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By Hammo, November 12, 2007 at 8:27 am #
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Based on recent developments such as the confirmation of Michael Mukasey for attorney general, and the support of Sens. Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein (and her husband who makes millions in the defense industry), not to mention Hillary “John Wayne” Clinton ... there would be support there for a U.S. attack on Iran by these individuals and some in the constituencies they represent.

This is in spite of the feelings by most Americans and experts that such an action is not needed and could cause devastating “blowback.”

Food for thought in the two articles ...

“Will Bush, Cheney attack Iran? When and why?”

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle. asp?articleID=20093

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“Military draft needed for war with Iran and Syria?”

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle. asp?articleID=11698

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By Non Credo, November 12, 2007 at 8:19 am #
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Outraged writes:

“It’s as if they believe that when you’re godlike you don’t HAVE to follow the petty rules of physics and reason like the ordinary man, but in fact you can supersede these constraints.”
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Yes, it’s pretty crazy that Bush and Cheney seem to believe we could actually “win” in such a mess. But politically, the biggest force impelling Congress to go along with it is the Israel lobby, and all the Israel lobby wants is for us to deliver a devastating, murderous blow to Iran. Israel doesn’t care whether we “win” or even survive. They don’t care what it does to us. They just want us to leave hated Iran in a miserable shambles and kill a lot of Iranians, and there is no doubt that we can accomplish that. We are on a suicide bombing mission for Israel.

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By JimBob, November 12, 2007 at 7:47 am #
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“The United States is able to launch a massive and devastating air attack on Iran’s military installations. It can obliterate the Iranian air force. It can cripple if not dismantle effective communications and military command and control. It can destroy some of Iran’s underground nuclear facilities. But...”
And CH launches into how we’re not sure where they’ve got their bad stuff hidden and, well, it would be illegal if they don’t attack us first.  What the hell?  What about totally immoral?  The Iranian people haven’t done anything to us.  The ONLY reason there’s any talk whatsoever about attacking them is because BushCheney need another war like a junkie needs another fix.  That first one felt so good, but now they’re feeling a little jagged because the Mission Accomplished moment has worn off.  Why are we relying on a few easily-replaced military men to protect us from these madmen?  The Iranians are a beautiful, peaceful people who deserve to live their lives without being bombed.  Anything unsavory their government has done, our government has done a thousand times over.  I can’t believe the American people aren’t rising up against this.

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By Outraged, November 12, 2007 at 7:26 am #
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“There are forces in our society ready and willing to fan the blood lust for a wider circle of war and mayhem. The Iranians, like us, are cursed by their leadership. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is as primitive, inept and paranoid as George Bush. They are the perfect dance partners for a waltz into Armageddon.”

*This is exactly true.  Although it seems there are also “forces in our society” willing to stop it.  When the nuclear bombs from Minot ND airbase were thwarted from their “mission”, several “died”.  It seems our armed forces are already on it. 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va& aid=7158

What we need is an immediate impeachment of VP Cheney, then Bush.  There are others in our congress who need to be ousted also.  It seems impossible to believe that our “leaders” did all this JUST for the money.  It seems that they carry a very fixated belief in the grandiose that comes from being a superpower.  For them, superpower status means nothing unless they use it.  Very Hitler-like, the self importance and splendor they pursue in their quest for complete supremacy.  It is also very Hitler-like to fight on two fronts without the means and manpower to sustain it.  It’s as if they believe that when you’re godlike you don’t HAVE to follow the petty rules of physics and reason like the ordinary man, but in fact you can supersede these constraints.

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By Non Credo, November 12, 2007 at 7:22 am #
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It seems we’re doomed no matter what happens.

If the military doesn’t rebel, we will have a war against Iran, which will ruin us - our economy, our military, and even what’s left of our democracy (because surely Bush will take advantage of the new “emergency” to intensify his attacks on civil liberties and the rule of law).

But if the military does rebel, and stops the war, then we set a dangerous precedent of military rejection of civilian authority. This may soften us up for military rule, as the military basks in our gratitude for its having “saved the country”.

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