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Posted on Nov 12, 2007
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Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey, Hedges argues, may have the power and the inclination to prevent a war with Iran.

By Chris Hedges

The last, best hope for averting a war with Iran lies with the United States military. The Democratic Congress, cowed by the Israel lobby and terrified of appearing weak on defense before the presidential elections, will do nothing to halt an attack. The media, especially the electronic press, is working overtime to whip up fear of a nuclear Iran and tar Tehran with abetting attacks against American troops in Iraq. The American public is complacent, unsure of what to believe, knocked off balance by fear and passive. We will be saved or doomed by our generals.

The last wall of defense that prevents the Bush administration from targeting Iran, an attack that could ignite a regional conflagration and usher in apocalyptic scenarios in the Middle East, runs through the offices of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates; Adm. William Fallon , the head of the Central Command (CENTCOM); and Gen. George Casey, the Army’s new chief of staff. These three figures in the defense establishment have told George W. Bush and the Congress how depleted the U.S. military has become, that it cannot manage another conflict, and that a war with Iran would make the war with Iraq look like an act of prudence and common sense.

The reliance on the military command, however, to be the voice of reason in the debate about a new war is not a healthy sign for our deteriorating democracy. Compliant generals can always be found to carry out the Dr. Strangelove designs of a mad White House. Those who resist implementing decisions can easily be removed. The protective cover provided by these figures in the defense establishment could vanish.

The United States is able to launch a massive and devastating air attack on Iran’s military installations. It can obliterate the Iranian air force. It can cripple if not dismantle effective communications and military command and control. It can destroy some of Iran’s underground nuclear facilities. But our intelligence inside Iran, as was true in Iraq, is uneven. We do not know where all of Iran’s nuclear facilities are. And it is probable that an Iranian response against American targets, such as the Green Zone in Iraq, as well as Iranian-sponsored terrorist attacks on American soil, would follow. Shiites in the region would interpret an attack as a war on the Shiite community and would unleash unrest, terrorism and violence against us and our allies from Lebanon to Pakistan.

The battle is between the Cheney camp, which would like to carry out strikes on Iran before Bush leaves office, and Gates and his senior generals. Cheney, who has always been able to push aside the feckless Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, is having a tougher time with the military. Fallon, for example, was successful in his attempt to block efforts by Cheney to move a third aircraft carrier into the Persian Gulf earlier this year and bluntly said that “there would be no war against Iran” as long as he was chief of CENTCOM.

Gen. Casey informed Congress this fall that the Army was “out of balance” and added: “The demand for our forces exceeds the sustainable supply. We are consumed with meeting the demands of the current fight, and are unable to provide ready forces as rapidly as necessary for other potential contingencies.”

This White House has a habit of dismissing recalcitrant generals. Gen. Eric Shinseki, when he was chief of staff of the Army, ended his career when he told the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee on the eve of the war in Iraq that “something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers” would probably be required for postwar Iraq. Gen. Peter Pace also ran afoul of the White House and was not nominated for a second term as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when he publicly defied Donald Rumsfeld. At a press conference in November 2005 he stood next to Rumsfeld as the secretary of defense asserted that “the United States does not have a responsibility” to prevent torture by Iraqi officials. Pace pointedly disagreed with Rumsfeld, saying, “It is the absolute responsibility of every U.S. service member, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene, to stop it.” Pace also openly dismissed White House claims that Iran was supplying weapons and explosively formed penetrators to Iraqi insurgents. He too was shown the door.

The White House, isolated and reviled at home and abroad, believes it is on a higher mission to save the world from itself. The instability in the Middle East could undermine Gates and his generals. A limited Israeli strike on suspected Iranian nuclear production facilities, currently under discussion in Jerusalem, could trigger retaliatory strikes by Iran on Israel and U.S. targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf.  The clamor for revenge, fueled by a rapacious right-wing media, coupled with our feelings of collective humiliation, could sweep aside all reasoned objections to war with Iran. It happened after the attacks of 2001. It can happen again.

There is a petition circulating that was put together by Marcy Winograd from the Progressive Democrats. The petition is addressed to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and all U.S. military personnel. It urges them to defy orders to attack Iran. It points out that a pre-emptive war with Iran is a war crime under international law. It reminds military personnel of the statute in the Army Field Manual 27-10, Section 609, and Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 92, that states: “A general order or regulation is lawful unless it is contrary to the Constitution, the law of the United States. ...”

The petition notes that any provision of an international treaty ratified by the United States becomes the law of the United States. The United States is a party and signatory to the United Nations Charter, of which Article II, Section 4, states, “All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. ...”

Iran has not attacked the United States. The U.S., as a party and signatory to the U.N. charter, would be in clear violation of international law and the laws enshrined in the Constitution if it went to war with Iran. If the citizens and their representatives in Congress refuse to resist and uphold the rule of law, perhaps the military can be prodded to halt our slide into despotism. It is not the best option, but it may be the only one left.

We live now at the mercy of events. A provocation by Iran, aided by a bellicose White House, could plunge us into another war. It could unleash the primitive chant for violence and revenge that rises up from a population that feels vulnerable, uncertain and afraid. There are forces in our society ready and willing to fan the blood lust for a wider circle of war and mayhem. The Iranians, like us, are cursed by their leadership. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is as primitive, inept and paranoid as George Bush. They are the perfect dance partners for a waltz into Armageddon.

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By Elie Elhadj, December 20, 2007 at 11:57 pm #
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The March of ShiismEven without

The March of Shiism
Even without nuclear weapons, Iran has become the hegemonic power over the world’s richest oil region, thanks to the Bush administration’s elimination of the Sunni Wahhabi Talibans in Afghanistan and Saddam’s Sunni regime in Iraq.
On April 9, 2003, the U.S. won the battle against a tattered Iraq. But Iran, without firing a shot won the war for Iraq; a triumph for the Khomeini revolution, one of Shiism’s greatest moments since Saladin removed the Shii Fatimids in Cairo in 1171. The occupation of Iraq transferred control in Mesopotamia to Iraq’s 60% Shii majority, a cataclysmic event that turned Iran into an unstoppable regional powerhouse. The British think tank, Chatham House concluded in August 2006: “The greatest problem facing the U.S. is that Iran has superseded it as the most influential power in Iraq.”
To Sunnis, Shiis are heretics. In extremist Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, Shiis are discriminated against. The founder of the kingdom imposed on Shiis the tax he imposed on non-Muslims. Shii towns and villages today are pathetically poor despite being located at the heart of Saudi Arabia’s oil region. In Bahrain, the Sunni ruling minority discriminates against the Shii majority. In Iraq, until the U.S. occupation, the Shii majority was deprived. In Kuwait, Shiis, almost one-third of Kuwaitis, are second-class citizens. In Lebanon, Shiis, a third of the population, are underprivileged. In Syria, until seizing power in 1970, the Alawites, a Shii sect, lived in abject poverty under Sunni rule. In Yemen, the Zaydis, a Shii sect, are a third of Yemen’s twenty million people. Zaidis accuse the Sunni government of genocide.
The Arab Shiis look to Iran for deliverance; leverage in Tehran’s arsenal in dealing with Arab oil Sheikhdoms. Egyptian President Mubarak declared recently that Shiis in Arab states were more loyal to Iran than to their own countries.
As a minority of about 15% of Muslims today, Shiism draws Shiis together. In Southern Iraq, Najaf and Karbala, the burial places of Imams Ali and Hussein, are the holiest of holy Shii cities. Kazimayn, nearby, has the tombs of the Seventh and the Ninth Imams. Samarra has the tombs of the Tenth and the Eleventh Imams plus the revered Mosque of the Occultation, from where the Twelfth Imam allegedly disappeared (this mosque was blown up in the civil war on February 22, 2006 and again on June 13, 2007). In the cemeteries of these holy cities, many illustrious religious personalities from the world of Shiism are buried. In Iran, the Eighth Imam is buried in Mashhad, and in Qumm his sister is buried. Outside Damascus in Syria, Zainab, the Granddaughter of the Prophet and the sister of Hasan and Hussein, is buried. In commemorating the suffering of the Imams, pilgrimages pull millions of Shiis together. In the grand seminaries of Najaf, Karbala, Mashhad, and Qumm the best-known clerics teach. The prominent families of Najaf and Karbala trace their roots to long lines of marriages with the great families of Burjurid, Isfahan, Kirmanshah, Mashhad, and Qumm. Ayatollahs have cross-country followings. From Najaf and Karbala, Iranian clerics often led the Shii world. The so-called “historical ethnic enmity” between Arabs and Persians is an exaggeration.  The conflict has always been between the rulers, not the Shii masses. 
Washington needs today to deal with Iran as the major power in the world’s biggest oil region. GCC rulers in Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and UAE are too feeble to challenge Iran. These men are non-representative dictators pre-occupied in outdoing each other on who owns the more ostentatious palace and who flies the bigger private Airbus or Boeing airplane.

Elie Elhadj; author: The Islamic Shield
http://www.universal-publishers.com/book.php?method=IS BN&book=1599424118
Also:
http://journals.aol.com/eeh100/daring-opinion/

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By WorkingMan, December 4, 2007 at 11:01 pm #
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Change From Within? Unfortunately, the fact

Change From Within?

Unfortunately, the fact that military excess can only be prevented by the military is similar to the problems in other areas concern:

First, I’m starting to think that real progress towards true justice and peace in Israel/Palestine can only be achieved by the good-hearted Jewish Israelis (and Americans) who believe the current approach is immoral.

In the same way, I believe the economic disparities in the US can only be truly addressed by the super-rich themselves, for example, Bill Gates fighting to KEEP the estate tax.

However, I am not all that confident that these entrenched powers will change things themselves, despite their being the only ones with the power to do so.

The people and the democratic process have been completely divested of what little power they had.

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By Nancy, November 25, 2007 at 1:34 pm #
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Hmmm...it’s a hard decision for an imperalistic nation to make....help the little nation that thinks of us as unclean dogs, or the bigger one who thinks of us as infidels. I guess there wasn’t much dickering when they realized it was just a matter of land for oil. I guess we all know for whom. It’s as simple as they try to make it complicated. Maybe the question we as Christians should be asking is: is it what Jesus would do? Or perhaps we should just all drink the Kool-aid and forget about it. But oh wait. The Catholics are being sent in to help take over Iraq...what do we have to fear????

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By Sepharad, November 21, 2007 at 11:55 pm #
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It’s extremely discouraging that so many of the kneejerk anti-Semites on this thread are distracting attention from an extremely important issue—how we can help our military stop our politicians maneuver us into attacking Iran—by derailing discourse into their same-old-same-old BS about the all-powerful Israel lobby pushing America where it doesn’t want to go. Look: there are only 6 million Jews in the U.S. (nearly 90% of whom are Democrats and liberal) as compared to 10 million Moslems. More to the point, any fair and complete chart of the special interest lobbies and the money they throw at affecting U.S. policy, shows clearly that in terms of dollars spent and policy affected, the Israel lobby is truly small potatos. Finally, has it occurred to any of you anti-Zionists that so many Americans generally support Israel because they have never been brainwashed into hating it, and judge it for the type of productive, democratic society it is?

Ariel Sharon advised Bush privately to not attack Iraq because it would be destabilizing and because there were no longer WMDs in that country, long-since moved to Syria and other friends of Saddam. Many of us wish Sharon had offered his opinions loudly and publicly, but Israel does not have so many friends that she can stick a finger in the U.S. President’s eye. (The Palestinian issue is an Arab-created and maintained problem, else why would other Moslems—e.g., Turkey and the Kurds—be staunch, longterm allies of Israel?)

General Eric Shinseki, who’d been in Bosnia and understood murderous sectarian volatility, did speak up to Bush, did specify the overwhelming number of troops that would be required to stabilize post-invasion Iraq, and was fired for his pains. He was mentor and friend to our son-in-law who nevertheless served in Iraq, attempting to make the best of a very very bad situation.

At the time, neither Congress nor the public stood up to supported General Shinseki. This time we had better support the military men who are laying out the risks of attacking Iran before we shoot ourselves in the foot again. As a supporter of Israel of course I have no sympathy for the Iranians who bankroll and arm Hezbollah and Hamas, who believe Israel should be wiped from the face of the earth. But the majority of Iranian people are NOT in the same hate-filled category as the mullahs and Ahmadinejad. Thank God we have a French president and a German leader and a UN Secretary General who might push diplomatic initiatives and sanctions that will eventually persuade Iran. But if these don’t work, and the Russians and Chinese remain less than helpful, a war option must be carefully planned in advance and on the table so that the Iranians do not misunderstand our intent as Saddam did. Sure, it’s hypocritical for nations with nuclear weapons to deny other nations the same—yet if the nation in question has a jihad-supporting government perhaps some hypocrisy can be forgiven. The West can’t afford the existence of a nuclear weapon wielded by people whose death-embracing doctrine approves the massacre of infidels by martyrs on personal fast-passes to Paradise.

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By Ernest Canning, November 20, 2007 at 11:50 pm #
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Malcolm, while there are aspects of Marxism that are useful, the principle problem I have with it is its ascribing to a form of determinism--something reflected in your comparison to the HAL computer from 2001 A Space Odyssey to capitalism, relegating human choice to that of sentinels.  There is nothing innevitable in the direction we have taken, and certainly nothing to suggest that the proletariate will, as part of the innevitable course of history, acquire a class consciousness on a global scale required to overcome the globalization of the virulent Friedmanite form of capitalism described so aptly by Naomi Klein in “The Shock Doctrine.”

While Klein displays a preference for a mixed economy embodied in Keynsian economics, mine own preference would be a gradual move toward a democratic socialism that requires a fundamental change in overcoming the dynamic of neoliberal ideology at a time when imperialism has come home to roost and corporate control of the media is at its zenith. 

Left unchecked, the irrational neocon leaders of the ruling class could well bring the incineration of us all, but it is also possible that the direction we are taking is what Chalmers Johnson describes as a headlong flight back to feudalism rather than the direction of Marx’s utopian workers’ paradise.  But whatever path we take, it will not be because of capitalism is some out-of-control computer like the mythical Sky Net in the Terminator series but because of human decisions, both individual and collective.

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By Malcolm Martin, November 20, 2007 at 8:58 pm #
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Dr. Cajon, interesting take on the days ahead. I see it a bit different. But either way the vaporization of our families is a real threat.

It would take a team of psychoanalysts to catalog the many and varied mental pathologies of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and their henchmen in the U.S. government. The point to keep in mind is that in this time and in this place the capitalist system selected humans in power capable of carrying out insane and grotesquely inhumane policies, up to and including nuclear warfare. Capitalism, like the HAL 9000 computer on board the spaceship Discovery in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey is out of the control of its makers. The system now has only human sentinels, best represented by the so-called Neo-Conservatives in ruling circles.

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By Frank Cajon, November 20, 2007 at 6:59 pm #
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Well, so much for an open forum. After 88 contributions to this board, which has become in many of the threads a boring ‘anti-Zionist’ ramblefest, I was bleeped last night by Truthdig in my little contribution to this particular discussion. What in the hell for?
My assertion was, and is, that Dick Cheney favors a war with Iran before 1/20/09, and it will happen, and it will likely cause a nuclear confrontation and likely at least a limited nuclear exchange. It will likely begin with conventional air weaponry attacking their uranium-enrichment plants, and do so in full knowledge of Russia’s serious threat of a nuclear throw-down in return. Maybe the Board guys objected to my analogy that this whole thing has escalated to ‘WW III’ discussion since Bush and smarter, more cunning equivalent Russian Putin got together; or the fact that I think Cheney actually likes the idea of being Dr Strangelove and having lived a long enough life, killed off most of his enemies, is willing to take a few billion with him by starting the Final Conflict, which an air attack with collateral dirty damage near Tehran would almost surely generate. He will be in a bunker a mile under ground when the missiles fly. No generals are going to hold this guy back, he would have invaded Iran two years ago if he had the ground troops and officers to mount such an idiotic and doomed misadventure.
Even a small ‘tactical’ nuclear strike by Russia on US air bases in response to a conventional strike would kill up to 20,000 and result in a radiation-related deaths for decades in the area and world wide from any atmospheric detonation. This ‘best case scenario’ Dr Strangelove assumes that both sides don’t redeploy the nukes they didn’t disarm, which still number in the thousands.
We sure as hell need some sanity in our generals because we have none in the White House. Chancellor Bush is luetically delusional. I have treated unstable paranoid schizophrenics who had greater insight into their illness and less obvious symptom presentation than George Bush. The man running this country is Dick Cheney and I pray that he will not decide we all need to make the ultimate sacrifice to teach the Reds and heathens a lesson. I wonder if this will be zapped or not. If so, fine, my main concern is for my family if this plays out I want to be with them when these fools vaporize us all to protect us from terrorists.

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By Alice C Brown, November 20, 2007 at 10:13 am #
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There are entirely too many ignorant people in our country, peasants fighting for the king.  They haven’t the education to think analytically, and can only be concerned with consumerism.  There is so much to be concerned about.

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By Nabih Ammari, November 20, 2007 at 4:18 am #
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Although I agree with the “Essence and Contention” of
the article “In the Hands of the Military” by Chris
Hedges whose writing I have become addicted to,because
of his obvious HONESTY and profound MORAL PRINCIPLES
which touch the core of his highly admired journalistic
talents,I could not see how the military might be able to
do what Mr. Hedges hoped for without an open revolt
and wide-spread disobedience to prevent war with Iran.
The reason is obvious:The Great American Constitution
(which I Consider ALMOST DIVINE and must be protected
at all costs and never allow our passions to temper
with) clearly spells out that such power is absolutely
in the hands of the Congress and must remain so.

Sadly,in the last four to five decades,the Congress
has been inflected by a disease,although curable,is
called"The Disease of Corruption and Fear”:Corruption
because of personal weakness of GREED and Fear of not
getting re-elected,Fear of certain pressure groups
conveniently called LOBBYISTS(perhaps,for confusing
the innocent American public)and lastly but not least,the Fear of losing income/livelihood and fringe
benefits,for some,that could not be obtained from other
human endeavors.

This kind of disease unfortunately resides deep deep
in selfishness of the human nature since Cain killed
his own brother,Abel,as The Book of Genesis of The
Old Testament of the Bible described.

The military was founded mainly to defend the country
when attacked and when about to be attacked for sure.
Nothing more and nothing less.

When we,the people,start to look at the military to
solve our political problems of which we created our-
-selves against our common interest by electing inept
persons to represent us,it was/is high time to repent
from repeating our disastrous errors or prejudices or
blind passions or horrendous biases or whatever you
might/may want to call it.

What all the forgoing points mean???.Answer:With the
exception of Dennis Kucinich and his handful of
supporters in Congress,the American people have no
body to help them out the dilemmas they have found
themselves in except themselves.I repeat,no body
except themselves by electing HONESTY,HONESTY and
more HONESTY to represent them in the halls of their
GREAT INSTITUTIONS of CONGRESS.Experience and other
abilities are fine but they always can be acquired,
but HONESTY cannot.It has to be engraved or instill
in very early age,not when a man/woman decides to run
for Congress.The longer a man/woman lives in the pure
and simple life of honesty,the least are the chances
in abandoning his commitment to the common good.

In short,Let us hope that the rules of laws derived
from articles and spirit of the CONSTITUTION of the
US,which have been initiated by Dennis Kucinich and his partners in Congress will succeed so that the
targeted person/persons for impeachment will be forced to spend more time with their lawyers to protect their asses from impeachment and persecutions
and less time on plotting how to wage war against Iran.Let us just hope that will take place and avoid
involving the military in the crocked and knifing
politics of Washington DC and its self-appointed
crowd in the think tanks of the Neocons who brought
nothing but disasters and bad name to the US.Enough
is Enough.Let us try PEACE for a change through real
HONEST and JUST DIPLOMACY.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Nancy, November 19, 2007 at 10:09 pm #
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Still. For me; any group that supports Zionists supports the people that killed Jesus. That lets me out officially. Based on fact; and fiction. It wasn’t the politics of it, only the religion. Even up until today. If religion is not for the betterment of mankind; what good is it? And if it is violence, repressive and dictatorial....should we let it rule in America? I think people should start thinking about what ‘tolerance’ means as opposed to ‘one world religion’ means. What do ya’ll think?
(And maybe the question of; if you had to go to church, which religion would it be?) Think of it as a treasure hunt....Happy Hunting and Happy Thanksgiving!!!

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By Nancy, November 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm #
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Look to influential churches; . They are behind the violence...and the attempt to overthrow the United States of America and first and foremost our CONSTITUTION.

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By Malcolm Martin, November 19, 2007 at 12:23 pm #
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Ernest, you got me pegged. I’ll give you credit for that and I’ll not dwell on your newest characterizations. Objectively speaking, I guess “ideologically-blinded” is a step up from crazy anyway. As to a concrete suggestion for the here and now I’d have to agree with Goldman Sachs that you should sell your Citigroup stock. Hurry!

But listen Ernie you’re working too hard here. Damn, almost 1150 posts! Chill for awhile, let me talk to these guys with a bug up their asses over Israel.

One thing last year’s Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon has made clearer is the alignment of forces in the Arab and Muslim world. Ironically, in different fashions both Hamas and Hizbollah were creations of Israel. Hamas was supposed to act as a counterweight to the Palestine Liberation Organization when Israel considered the PLO the most immediate threat to their domination of the Arab majority. Hizbollah filled the gapping chasm Israel created with the 1982 invasion and years long occupation of southern Lebanon. Both Hamas and Hizbollah have, through years of disciplined work and organizing, woven themselves into the lives of the respective peoples they seek to liberate. What a stark contrast with the rich Arab boys who have created the cult they call al-Qaeda. The clownish Ayman al-Zawahiri rushed to his camcorder after Hizbollah faced down the Israeli military to spout some silly rhetoric about a caliphate from Spain to Iraq in front of a poster that screams, “Please remember us, we did 9/11!”

Under normal circumstances the impending death of a form of racism like Zionism (see pictures of young Israeli girls writing messages and drawing on missile warheads soon to rain down on their human counterparts in Lebanon) and the establishment of a secular state on the territory Israel now occupies where Palestinian Arabs of various religious persuasions and Jews could peacefully co-exist as equals would be cause for human celebration. Unfortunately, the panic that clearly grips Israel means they will likely join in U.S. attacks on Damascus and Tehran and resort to the use of their nuclear arsenal when all else fails. And that, on a larger scale, is the dilemma that the whole world faces as the capitalist system spearheaded by the United States begins experiencing it’s last gasps.

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By Howard, November 19, 2007 at 8:22 am #
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Reality is that the bugaboo of a harmful lobby is not there. Our government is not that easily influenced. They are grown men and women and make their own policy. In all of life its easy to blame someone or something for mistakes

Far from giving Israel unconditional or unqualified support in the midst of a terrorist offensive against it, both the Clinton and Bush dministrations regularly criticized as excessive, provocative and unhelpful legitimate Israeli counter-terrorism
measures, including roadblocks, withholding revenues from the PA and targeting terrorists – all measures that have been utilized by the US in the war on
radical Islamic terrorism.

Both President Bush and Secretary of State Colin Powell criticized Israel’skilling of Hamas terrorist leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, describing it as “deeply
troubling” and calling for “maximum restraint.”

The US has criticized Israel’s security fence and both Bush and Powell pressured Israel to curtail military incursions against terrorist strongholds, most notably during Israel’s offensive in Jenin in 2002.

Despite US understanding that the PA has been a haven and launching pad for terrorists, the Bush administration continued to pressure Israel to resume negotiations and make concessions to the PA. Most significantly – and despite Israeli
objections on 14 points – the US joined the EU, UN and Russia in endorsing the2003 Road Map peace plan, which seeks further Israeli concessions.

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By Non Credo, November 19, 2007 at 7:19 am #
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#114470 by Howard on 11/19 at 7:12 am

Poor, tired, Howie complains:

“Oh YEAH; the LOBBY.  Again. “

Isn’t it terrible how that won’t just go away, Howie? Reality has a way of doing that. It won’t go away.

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By Howard, November 19, 2007 at 7:12 am #
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Oh YEAH; the LOBBY.  Again.
and ....Israel; of course they both the bad guys.  Over and over.  Even here on this essay on our militrary.  Is there no article they aren’t brought up in ?

Imagin a supposed Jewish cabal of Washington insiders who hijacked U.S. policy to take us to war for Israel’s interest.

Yet when the United States bombed European and Christian Serbia to help Balkan Muslims, few critics alleged that American Muslims had unduly swayed President Clinton. And such charges of improper ethnic influence are rarely leveled to explain the billions in American aid given to non-democratic Egypt, Jordan or the Palestinians — or the Saudi oil money that pours into American universities.

The world likewise displays such a double standard. It seems to care little about the principle of so-called occupied land — whether in Cyprus or Tibet — unless Israel is the accused. Mass murdering in Cambodia, the Congo, Rwanda and Darfur has earned far fewer United Nations’ resolutions of condemnation than supposed atrocities committed by Israel. A number of British academics even sponsored a boycott recently (that failed )of Israeli scholars but leave alone those from autocratic Iran, China and Cuba.

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By Non Credo, November 19, 2007 at 6:04 am #
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Re:#114431 by Nabih Ammari on 11/19 at 2:30 am:

Thanks. I only provided a tiny bit of the huge amount of information that proves that Israel and its lobby helped both to create and and to promote the false propaganda which supported war against Iraq. Most importantly, Israel and its lobby are the key to why the Democrats offered no resistance in Congress.

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By Non Credo, November 19, 2007 at 5:43 am #
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Howard writes:

(1) “The NATION magazine is only a magazine.  Not confirmed stuff; and not necessarily purchased on the importanat levels of our gov’t...”

What does the fact that The Nation is a magazine have to do with anything? And what about The Guardian? “Only a newspaper”? Every news outlet is “only” something!

(2) “I’d rather believe people who were there.” You can’t, of course. Not directly. You can only get your info from news reports by reporters who talked to people who were there. That’s exactly where I get my information, too. From news reports sourced from people who were there.

You just don’t want to see the ample evidence under your nose.

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By Howard, November 19, 2007 at 4:20 am #
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RE: #114411 by Non Credo on 11/18 at 10:08 pm

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The NATION magazine is only a magazine.  Not confirmed stuff; and not necessarily purchased on the importanat levels of our gov’t.

I’d rather believe people who were there. Those who know most about what actually happened .  After all, the world-changing event of 9/11 provoked the administration’s key policymakers, all non-Jewish, non-lobbymakers, the President, the Vice-President, the National Security Advisor, the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, to decide that an attack on Iraq was in the best interests of the US. They were supported by most senior military leaders just emerging from an extraordinary victory in Afghanistan. Peter Wehner, former Director of the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives called descriptions of other nations or local lobbies having a role in deciding entry into the Iraq War as “ludicrous.”

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By Nabih Ammari, November 19, 2007 at 2:30 am #
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To:#114411 by Non Credo on 11/18 at 10:08 pm.

Non Credo,

I feel that I must tell you that your above response
is all all and more all real good RED MEAT and surly
no potato (potatoe?.In fact,the MEAT was not rare;was
not medium;it was VERY VERY WELL DONE.Fascinating
response,indeed.It agrees totally with the information I have.

Thank you very much for a job well done,indeed.

Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Non Credo, November 18, 2007 at 10:08 pm #
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regarding #114344 by Howard :

Non Credo previously wrote:

“Remember, Israel helped lie us into the Iraq war, so there’s absolutely no reason to believe it when it claims to “suspect” this or that. “

...To which Howard replied:

“… For you to make the inane comment about Israel, or any country, helping us getting into that country via lying, is nonsense....”
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Howard, there are credible, independent reports by at least two distinguished journalists — both of them Jewish, as it happens — that Ariel Sharon had a special unit set up in his office before the Iraq war specifically tasked with cooking up alarmist propaganda promoting the idea that Iraq posed a WMD threat. The journalists are Robert Dreyfuss of The Nation and Julian Borger of The Guardian.

This unit was linked to the neocons’ Office of Special Plans (OSP) at the Pentagon. It had to be set up independently of the Mossad, because Mossad had too much integrity to sign onto this exercise in rank fraud. The reports were produced in English, not in Hebrew, specifically to be fed to the American government in order to help gin up the false case for war.

Now, do you want to claim that The Nation and The Guardian are neo-Nazi news organizations?

Here are the relevant excerpts from the two reports, with links:

(1) Robert Dreyfuss, The Nation; June 19, 2003

‘...also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel. This unit, which paralleled Shulsky’s--and which has not previously been reported--prepared intelligence reports on Iraq in English (not Hebrew) and forwarded them to the OSP. It was created in Sharon’s office, not inside Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, because the Mossad--which prides itself on extreme professionalism--had views closer to the CIA’s, not the Pentagon’s, on Iraq. This secretive unit, and not the Mossad, may well have been the source of the forged documents purporting to show that Iraq tried to purchase yellowcake uranium for weapons from Niger in West Africa, according to the former official.’

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030707/dreyfuss

(2) Julian Borger, The Guardian, Thursday July 17, 2003

‘The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon’s office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam’s Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

“None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels,” said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith’s authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel’s Likud party.’

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html

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By Ernest Canning, November 18, 2007 at 7:17 pm #
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Wow, Malcolm, I’ve wondered why it took so long for an ideologically-blinded Marxist to post at Truthdig.  There isn’t a word you’ve posted that I haven’t heard or read before.  You’ve proven you can spout the doctrine, now come forth with something meaningful that has a bearing on the here and now.

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By Nancy, November 18, 2007 at 7:11 pm #
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Then I guess it would behove us to find out who is for us, and who is against us....

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By wafranklin, November 18, 2007 at 6:51 pm #
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“Events are in the saddle;the terrible ifs accumulate.” Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

Prophet Muhammad - “Muhammad slep upon a mat, and got up very marked on the body by it: and someone said, ‘O Messenger of God! If thou hadst ordered me, I would have spread a soft bed for thee.’ Lord Muhammad said, ‘What business have I with the world? I am a man on horseback, who standeth under the shade of a tree, then leaveth it.’”

Bonaparte was also called “The Man on Horseback”

I hear calls for The Man on Horseback to whom the fickle crowd will lay down all their civil and other liberties, only to find they are under the yoke.  Hedges is entranced by the military.  It is a sign of the times that he and others are beginning to think that some military figure might gather around himself the basis for a coup against the civil side of government - be frank, for that is what I read here.  And, then having taken over, do you think that the Man on Horseback and his lackeys will be prone to surrender power?  Washington and Cincinnatus are alleged to be the only two rulers to have done so. 

But I see lots of pussy footing around the idea of a rebellion or revolution with some thought of a military contingent in charge.  Question: will we then obey the laws?  I think yes, whomever takes charge in those circumstances will selectively inflict the laws to his favor, or that of his group.  And, now we have such laws which demolish our civil liberties—just to make it easier for them.  And as for Casey, the Army Chief of Staff has limited power to provide men and machines for the DoD Unified and Specified Commands, the operational arms of the United States.  Casey is the cook and supply sargent to the Commands.

Events are indeed in the saddle and folks are finally getting nervous - about damned time.  Remember, The Man on Horseback obtaining power, does not leave peacefully!

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By Ernest Canning, November 18, 2007 at 4:26 pm #
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Well, Lemeritus, if you are Dick Cheney plotting (a) war with Iran, (b) a declaration of a national emergency when the People come forward to protest, as an excuse for martial law, a suspension of Congress and the elections, having generals in place whom you could control might prove very important indeed.

The point Kucinich was trying to make at the Las Vegas debate, before Blitzer cut him off, is that we can’t wait as Biden suggests until after the bombs start falling on Iran to initiate impeachment--a procedure that may be the only weapon left in the constitutional arsenal to prevent a permanent takeover of the government by the fascists in the White House.

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By Malcolm Martin, November 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm #
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Gee Ernest, that’s what the ruling class says about Dennis Kucinich. Read this so you will better understand who you are and the fear that makes you so dismissive.

From the birth of the republic, capitalism has been able to provide the American people with several powerful incentives to go along with the program. Five percent of the world’s population is invited to consume 30% of the world’s resources by way of imperialism. White Americans are invited to enjoy a disproportionate share of the wealth by way of racism. A very comfortable place is provided to politicians, intellectuals, academics, bureaucrats, and entrepreneurs in the narrow strata of society Marx called the petty bourgeois. Nowadays though, that deal with the capitalist devil is becoming more and more difficult to keep! The U.S. is being integrated into a global economy as capitalism searches for the lowest possible wage and the greatest possible profit. The process is steadily reshaping ours into a subsistence-wage service economy. The jobs of elite industrial workers, from auto and steelworkers to airline pilots, are disappearing across the country along with their health benefits and pensions. Even white Americans are now feeling the pain of a declining standard of living.

Now as capitalism enters its final stages, politically a nearly seamless transition to fascism is taking place. The trappings of bourgeois democracy are a brake on profits and so they are being shredded. The Constitution and its Bill of Rights are being rendered meaningless by plans for perpetual war, by presidential signing statements and the theory of the unitary executive, extraordinary rendition, government surveillance programs and the like. Programs based on democratic principles like the public schools, Social Security, Medicare, affirmative action and welfare are being starved to death. The mass media and electoral machinery and both major political parties are now fully under the control of those in power. Bloodless coups in 2000 and 2004 installed George W. Bush in the White House and no future ballot will remove the candidates of the ruling class from power.

The sad truth is that the petty bourgeois (that’s you Ernest) cannot defeat the capitalist ruling class! They are a timid and passive group who, in this time for warriors, gather at the gates of the palace to nag and complain essentially to each other. There are scores of Internet websites, magazines, newspapers, radio programs and networks, and some small television networks where liberal, left, progressive, and other commentators show up to whine out loud. They rail against the outrages and inhumanity of the U.S. government and the Bush Administration. They point out the duplicity, the corruption, the hypocrisy, the inhumanity, and the utter criminality loosed in the world today but to no useful end since capitalism will not be reformed nor shamed to death. Pointing out the defects of capitalism has become as easy as shooting fish in a barrel. The ruling class brushes its liberal democratic critics off like gnats as long as they stay away from the third rail. But let one of these voices dare mention unity based on working class-consciousness and a mobilization to strike at profits and great danger would shortly thereafter visit.

So you just stay safe behind your H. Res. 766, your e-mails to John Conyers, and your facile political judgements. We’ll let you know when the fighting is over.

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By Howard, November 18, 2007 at 2:55 pm #
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RE: #113917 by Non Credo on 11/16 at 4:49 am

Non Credo Writes
“remember, Israel helped lie us into the Iraq war, so there’s absolutely no reason to believe it when it claims to “suspect” this or that. “
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Our U.S. government was quite capable of going into Iraq on its own.  Our officials are not adolescents.  For you to make the inane comment about Israel, or any country, helping us getting into that country via lying, is nonsense.  You are whistling in the dark.

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By Lemeritus, November 18, 2007 at 11:55 am #
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I would like to draw your attention to an article in yesterday’s Washington Post (here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2 007/11/16/AR2007111602258.html)

I find it ominous that General Patraeus (whose rapport with the White House is significant) should be tapped to choose the next group of brigadier generals.  This administration has politicized every function of the government it can reach; the ramifications are staggering.  To pull the military into that partisan orbit would be ruinous to the tatters of our democracy.

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By Ernest Canning, November 18, 2007 at 7:56 am #
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Me thinks Malcolm is a wee bit daft.

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By Malcolm Martin, November 17, 2007 at 7:42 pm #
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Goodness will find the little boy. It always has. It will again. (Cormac McCarthy’s “The Road")

Mark my words. Someday, in the not too distant future, there will be a series of arrests. Good men and women (none of them much wealthy) will conduct interrogations and the cowardice of the accused will be televised to the people of the world, the crying and the urination will certify the shock in them that their world has been turned upside down so suddenly. How could their mighty Blackwater forces been defeated by regular ragtag US military units?

An eminently fair trial will follow and those proven guilty will be convicted. Impeachment! The spirit of Benito Mussolini laughs at your stinking impeachment. The meathook awaits this gang.

Dear reader many of you do not see clearly yet and you think this fantastic. But some of you will live to see it happen. Enjoy!

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By Ernest Canning, November 17, 2007 at 8:45 am #
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Nancy, the only real hope for heading off this disaster is currently bottled up in the House Judiciary Committee--H.Res. 766--articles of impeachment against one Richard B. Cheney.  Cheney’s mere threats to bomb Iraq form the core of Article III. 

During the last Democratic debate, Sen. Biden said that if the Bush regime bombed Iraq it would lead to impeachment.  The corporatist moderator, Wolf Blitzer, then did his best to prevent Mr. Kucinich from being provided the opportunity to make an argument that we need to immediately impeach.

While most would examine impeachment either for the legal basis--high crimes and misdomeanors which obviously exist for both Bush and Cheney--or point to politics--using the number of Republicans in the Senate as a chiseling excuse for the failure of members of Congress to rise to defend the constitution and the rule of law--the immediate value of impeachment hearings in the House would be their placement of Cheney in a “Wag the Dog” scenario in which the move to bomb Iran could give rise to his immediate removal from office, as opposed to a state of emergency that would have the Bush regime seeking permanency, which I believe has been Cheney’s goal from the moment he selected himself as Bush’s running mate in 2000.

Impeachment may be the last legal means for preventing the disaster that would follow attack on Iran.  Regardless of whether they are left, right or center, Americans should be flooding the offices of John Conyers (Chairman of the Judiciary Committee) with e-mails, letters and phone calls, demanding the immediate commencement of impeachment hearings.

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By Nancy, November 16, 2007 at 8:08 pm #
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Isn’t it time we applied pressure? They should roll back the war powers of the president. Especially when it’s not been established if he is mental or NOT. Isn’t it time to take over the ship? Or does America have a death wish?

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By Non Credo, November 16, 2007 at 4:49 am #
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WR Curley writes:

“What I find most disturbing about Mr Hedges op-ed is his assumption that a strike on Iran is well nigh inevitable. He is buying into the story being sold by AIPAC, the MSM, and the administration. Take note: You do not have to buy into the justifications for the action to validate it; you just have to buy into the story. The more debate, the more traction the story gets.”
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Quite so. For example, Hedges writes of “suspected Iranian nuclear production facilities”.  Let’s examine that phrase.

So why should we believe Israel when they claim to suspect that there are nuclear weapons production facilities in Iran? The IAEA, which has earned our trust, says there’s no evidence for this. And we know that Israel’s position is that Iran must not be allowed to enrich uranium at all, even though the NPT gives them that right. So we know Israel wants to bomb Iran for that reason alone. Why should we believe Israel’s claim to suspect anything more? And remember, Israel helped lie us into the Iraq war, so there’s absolutely no reason to believe it when it claims to “suspect” this or that.

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By Marnie, November 16, 2007 at 1:29 am #
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“The Iranians, like us, are cursed by their leadership. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is as primitive, inept and paranoid as George Bush. They are the perfect dance partners for a waltz into Armageddon.”

Unfortunately those may be the words carved on the tombstone of the great history of our nation.

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By cyrena, November 16, 2007 at 12:11 am #
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#113836 by WR Curley

• With all due respect...It is time to set aside the comforts of idealism and face reality.
I’m thinking way PASSED time, oh yeah. WAY, WAY passed time.
• It is the same with torture. If we can be persuaded to argue the question, then we validate both sides of the argument. In both instances we are not discussing moral absolutes (as clearly we should be). We are having a common difference of opinion.
Clearly both torture and unprovoked assaults on sovereign peoples are - by statutes affirmed by our nation - crimes against humanity.

Unless the President says otherwise.

Hot Damn WR Curly!!

You hit it so right here on the mark. Why are we even discussing stuff that validates an argument instead of the moral absolutes, which should stifle any long term questions about any of this? (torture or unprovoked war on a sovereign nation). ESPECIALLY since the moral absolute has already been sealed in law.

And NO!! The president doesn’t get to say otherwise. So, that begs only the same question that we’ve also been dancing around for several years…what the hell is wrong with the REST of us, who clearly KNOW what the moral absolute is, not to mention the laws that have been written in exceedingly clear language?

Bonnieblue has some excellent suggestions. #113747 by bonnieblue

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By WR Curley, November 15, 2007 at 4:36 pm #
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With all due respect...It is time to set aside the comforts of idealism and face reality. Bush/Cheney, operating under the tenuous cover of the legal opinions of a few select scholars, have expanded the powers of the Presidency to place the person holding the office above the Constitution and above the law.

Who will define the term “legal order”? The office of the Commander in Chief will reserve that prerogative. I mean, who could have imagined a few short years ago that we’d be debating the legality of torture?

We’ve noted several instances over the past five years of dissenting, off-message career military men finding themselves obliged to retire for the offense of using their best professional judgment. They were easily replaced. The world has never lacked for ambitious, arrogant mediocrities. The current Pres, for example.

What I find most disturbing about Mr Hedges op-ed is his assumption that a strike on Iran is well nigh inevitable. He is buying into the story being sold by AIPAC, the MSM, and the administration. Take note: You do not have to buy into the justifications for the action to validate it; you just have to buy into the story. The more debate, the more traction the story gets.

It is the same with torture. If we can be persuaded to argue the question, then we validate both sides of the argument. In both instances we are not discussing moral absolutes (as clearly we should be). We are having a common difference of opinion.

Clearly both torture and unprovoked assaults on sovereign peoples are - by statutes affirmed by our nation - crimes against humanity.

Unless the President says otherwise.

WR Curley
Elizabeth, Colorado

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By Mooser, November 15, 2007 at 1:03 pm #
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The War Party will do what they have always done, what they did in WW1 and 2 and Korea and Nam.
They will get themselves in the biggest possible mess they can, given what they have to work with. In Iraq they almost had to kill them all before they would fight, but they finally gave the US a fight. Anyway, when they get themselves in way,way over their heads, they’ll come for your children and throw them into the fight.

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By geronimo, November 15, 2007 at 11:36 am #
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Nonsense! Our last, best and (as it’s turning out) only hope lies not with the military but with each and every one of us.  But what can we do?  Troops out now, that’s what, that there be no war no more, nowhere, never, not even one.

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By bonnieblue, November 15, 2007 at 8:34 am #
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I would respectfully suggest that the solution, to the extent that the generals can contribute to the solution without their actions leading to an even worse precedent, is for generals now serving - not waiting until they have retired - to publicly state that pursuant to their oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, they must refuse to serve in the war because by all resonable standards that war, its conduct and orders pursuant to those ends are unconstitutional.  This would end their careers, and those of retirement age would be compelled to retire, but at least they would have taken a step to save their men, their own honor and their own souls.  Some might have the courage to resign and give up their pensions and the civilian jobs they would get for “having served.”

However, if we are going to expect this of generals, we need to expect similar actions from governors.  They need to create a constitutional crises by citing their own oaths and by thereupon refusing to send national guard units to serve the federal government.  This would compel large groups of people to take side: people of a state and national guard commanders.

If we expect it of the governors, then we should expect it of ourselves.  Like New Englanders during the the War of 1812, we should call ourselves into convention within our states and consider nullification and even secession.

All of these action are non-violent, have deep roots in Anglo-Saxon and American tradition and support the Constitution against usurpers!

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By Marc, November 15, 2007 at 7:26 am #
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The Neuremberg trials, apart from nazi scum, also sentenced German military who in defence stated they were ‘just following orders’. “Befehl ist befehl”. In those days international law decided that any military has the duty to follow orders, but not until the bitter end: every military officer also has to use his responsability. Even though that doesn’t make life easier for them. Let’s hope the US military doesn’t forget that lesson of history. Bush and Cheney are there only temporarily. The military is there to make the US be there and prosper for a much longer time. Hope they think of it that way. But I wouldn’t like to have Fallons or Caseys jobs right now. Difficult times…

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By Louis, November 15, 2007 at 6:53 am #
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If Congress won’t end the Iraq and Afghanistan wars by not creating legislation to fund them, then the only line of defense left is the military.  They are NOT sworn to obey just any order, only lawful orders.  This means those that align with the US Constitution - what they swear to defend - NOT to a single individual such as the President.  My video, An Open Letter to General Officers, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_yHY9hFl94 sums up what is being said in this article.  Comments are welcome.  Great article.

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By Bob Terwilliger, November 15, 2007 at 2:59 am #
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Historically in common law history the army overthrew parliament during the civil war and then overthrow the protectorate both by popular demand during colonial days (1650s) so I think the army should remain loyal to the people not the politicians. Uphold the constitution don’t just follow orders.

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By Nancy, November 14, 2007 at 11:01 pm #
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I have question about ....military high officers, pentagon officials who are requesting this to continue? They have something in their closet...follow the money....what about the big bid for support for the troops over this weekend? Think about it....for me at this point; supporting the troops is tantamount to supporting the whole fricken war! And they can kiss me where the sun don’t shine....

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By cyrena, November 14, 2007 at 10:41 pm #
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#113602 by Nate

Well Nate, indeed it does apparently mean what we’ve been thinking it meant, since it happened. Admittedly, I’m a little surprised to see this testimony printed in the Star Telegram. But, better late than never, which is why I’m surprised that it appeared there at all.

I’m hoping this retired Lt. has body guards, or leaves the country in a hurry, since six of the airmen involved in the incident have met with mysterious demise in the time since the incident. (which wasn’t quite 2 months ago). I think the first one to die mysteriously, was Todd Blue. But, at least 4 others have died or been killed in odd accidents, and I believe there is 1 currently ‘missing’.

I could have those numbers slightly off, though the details have been posted on this site. I just can’t remember with thread. Maybe someone else remembers.

I do know that a number of them have met there demise from mysterious circumstances.

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By Nancy, November 14, 2007 at 10:35 pm #
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Soverignty= Loyalty

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By cyrena, November 14, 2007 at 10:30 pm #
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#113605 by reason on 11/14 at 3:07 pm

• Anyone who has stood against Bush or his advisors has been discredited by any means available. The “Generals” who would stand up and tell Bush he is wrong know they should be ready to retire immediately.

You’re absolutely correct here reason, and we know that because so very, very, very many, (and not JUST military commanders) have already been there and done this. (retired/fired/or worse – immediately)

So, let me ask you, (and them as well I suppose) is that REALLY the worse thing..being forced out of the job? Or, even being discredited – ‘by any means available’? Could that possibly be the reason why we’ve dropped this close to end times? Because everyone is afraid of being discredited and/or invo