e.j. these KKKristians you quoted are as full shit as a thanksgiving turkey. you sir are equally as full of shit for giving these fools even one line of press.

Stop responding to brain dead dribble like this so called Chistian, there is nothing like christ about their comments, only hate , and hate is a cancer that will eat you up.

Reply   #106090 by Akira_Maritias on 10/10 at 1:54 pm

As for your being offended by the NAZI comment Guess what My family to knows about the NAZI’s A branch of my Family is Jewish from Hungry. After the war they stopped counting the loss after 275 because they could not bear it.
As for my wife she is more pro life than me, and she still has friends from her rape support group and they still meet about once a week. In her group some of the ladies became pregnant, some kept the baby and some aborted , and ALL who aborted regret the decision. NONE who kept their baby regret it.

MY problem with you is that you can sit by and watch a greater evil that our Jewish brothers and sisters suffered at the hands of the NAZI’s and not give a S**T . THIS MAKES YOU WORSE THAN A NAZI
P.S. how many people did Falwell kill , zero.
Bin Laden killed thousands ,
Do I want bin Laden dead , no do I want him stopped yes , will it take killing him to stop him , most likely

I’m pleased that Falwell is dead, not babies. But apparently you can’t read, so you keep assuming that I like dead babies.

If you don’t think there’s something wrong with Falwell, then I want you to wear aluminum in public so I know who you are.

Of course, I’m guessing that an honest Christian like you wants no one dead, correct? Not even Osama?

Too busy being a hypocrite to care…

At any rate, I am done with you. It infuriates me that you are utterly failing to understand why I am pro choice. It’s not your body, and you shouldn’t be making decisions for it. And of course rape victims remember rape. But they WANT to forget. Imagine seeing a reminder of the rapist. Every. Single. Day. And, you have to care for it. Love it. Nurture it. Nurture what came from that terrible person, and smile at it when it smiles at you.

But, you don’t care. No amount of my talking will coerce you. You are convinced of your rightness (or is it righteousness?) and I, an atheist at that, will never get you to change your mind.

Ask your wife. Ask her if it is her choice or the choice of old men if she is ready to care for a child. Ask her if she would rather have someone else tell her what to do in such a private matter.

By the way, it wasn’t a comparison. A few weeks into pregnancy, a fetus looks identical to a tadpole. We have gills at some point, too. We don’t develop a brain until the very end, to boot. That brain gives us our feelings.

Don’t talk down to me about Nazis. Please don’t. A good chunk of my family is buried in a mass grave right now; a chunk that MY family didn’t even know about until they released that article about a recently discovered mass grave a few months back. Do you know how shocking that is? To discover that many of your missing relatives have been rotting in such a foul place? Do NOT act like I am a Nazi, at ANY point in time. Call me whatever you like, but call me a Nazi, and you lose all hope of being a dignified human being in my eyes. Yes, I consider you a disgrace to Christianity for such an unnecessary outcry, and THAT is coming from an atheist.

Mike Mid-City is a decent Christian; I can glean that from what little I have seen of his posting throughout the site. You could learn a thing or two about him, instead of prattling on about entire groups of people being Satanists. I have liberal friends who are Christian. Are you so base to think that their desire to end the war and give people the free will to make their own choice about their bodies is considered Satanism? If I recall, God wanted us to have freewill, and at NO point is the removal of abortion considered a good thing.

Besides, the people HAVING abortions that you seem to loathe probably shouldn’t be continuing their bloodline. Think about it; do you REALLY want the woman who wants to murder children to have a child and raise it on such beliefs?

Now, I leave you to quietly stew…because I have no tolerance for people throwing ‘Nazi’ around. None. At. All.

I hate to break to you but girls who are raped will be “living with it ” long after 9 months if they are pregnant or not , If you doubt me just ASK MY WIFE , They don’t need a baby to remind them of the RAPE. And what kind of Asshole like you is happy that another human is dead ( not only babies but Jerry Falwell think about it ) And to answer your question about the war I opposed it at the start , but now if we ( the USA ) pulls out a bigger Blood bath will happen and when Iran takes the place over we will have to go back.  My view of the Iraq can best be described by the famous words of the movie full metal jacket ” it’s a big S**T sandwich and we all are going to have to take a bite”

As for torture is regrettable but necessary evil.
Or in the words of Spock from Star trek ” the good of the many out weigh the needs of the few or the one”

As for my demand that millions obey me , Guess what we already do, or have you not heard of this thing called ” THE LAW” and if your don’t obey you pay both boys and girls .

As for your comparison to a baby in the mothers womb to a tad pole where or where has the world heard that before , now I remember it was the Nazi’s who justified killing Jews because to them Jews were “sub human ” and in the US south in slavery days because to the crackers black were only 60 % human

“So Your answer to rape is to commit MURDER. And by the way rape incest account for less that 1 % of abortion and you know it. I don’t know why you get a thrill by the thought of dead babies other than the fact your are a Satanist. By the way the new medical technology called the sonogram that exposed the pro death liberal satanic left’s lies .”

And your answer to rape is to force the woman to live with a constant reminder of what happened? Never mind that the child could have been miscarried or been abused, it’s MURDER to kill a single celled organism.

Regardless of how many are raped, there are still women who ARE raped. If you are so damn determined in your twisted little world to stop all abortion so that THOSE women don’t matter at all, then you are a sick soul who should not be permitted internet access, no more than holocaust deniers and KKK members.

I don’t get a thrill from it, but apparently YOU do, since it’s on your mind. I’m not saying that it’s always justified or right, and there are people who should not be allowed to use it as they do, but that doesn’t give you the right to take away that right from someone else. Say that you force these people to give birth. Suddenly the population is forcefully being increased by an extra ONE MILLION every year. You had better hope that Jesus whisks us all away naked, ‘cause we’ll run out of room that much faster on Earth.

Your last sentence is a slap to the English language. It makes no sense. No ending, no punch line, no kick. You started it, then left it to rot. Sonogram don’t do shit, you moron. Yeah, it twitches about. They don’t allow abortions that far in, usually. Usually, it’s allowed when the baby is no more than a squirming tadpole-with gills, no doubt.

You’re apparently so caught up in sucking God’s metaphorical cock that you forgot just how irrational it is to DEMAND that MILLIONS OF WOMEN OBEY YOU. You neatly avoided the fact that these women WOULD STILL GET THE ABORTION, regardless of how legal it was, to call me a Satanist. I’m one worse: atheist. Damn, get the fire now! Gotta burn a heretic! Of course, you would know that if you could read.

What sickens me is that you don’t understand why some women get abortions. They get them because they are not READY to care for a child. If YOU got your way and their right was stolen from them to make that decision, THEY would have no choice, and they would HAVE to raise that child, or put them up for adoption and HOPE that they get adopted to a loving home. If they took care of them, the child would suffer, probably lose whatever faith they had, and maybe even die from starvation or the like. But damn if you care; it’s just a FRACTION of the people.

By the way, asshole, 1% of 1 million is 10,000. Guess that 10,000 women suffering and 10,000 babies that would be violently aborted illegally doesn’t matter. You could care less if the number was 999,999; so long as you saved ONE baby by forcing ALL of these women to obey YOU.

You do realize that NOWHERE does God utter ‘and women shalt not be allowed to end their child’s life’. Nope; you’re just happy to stumble after Bush and kiss his ass as much as possible, aren’t you? Can’t make your own choices, so you let people like Jerry Falwell (thank GOD he’s dead) make decisions for you so you can blindly follow. You don’t care; it just means NO thinking on your behalf.

Have I stated that I think you’re an idiot? Calling me a satanist…THAT’S original. Tell me, did you support the war in Iraq? Do you support torture? Where do you draw the line? Is it okay to kill people, so long as they are adults? Or do you only care about single celled beings that don’t actually have feelings or a brain until nearly 9 months in?

Why did we let the ridiculous right even use the words PRO-LIFE.  Whose life, theirs.  What about putting an end to the death penalty.  Why no outrage for those wrongly convicted and jailed for ever!  But of course this group sees nothing wrong with giving up someone else’s life, sending someone else’s child to die in wars.  The sheep are finally being led to barren pastures to wither and die. Works for me…..

reply to #106018 by Akira_Maritias on 10/10 at 9:47 am

So Your answer to rape is to commit MURDER. And by the way rape incest account for less that 1 % of abortion and you know it. I don’t know why you get a thrill by the thought of dead babies other than the fact your are a Satanist. By the way the new medical technology called the sonogram that exposed the pro death liberal satanic left’s lies .

Democracy not theocracy! 

The hubris and mendacity of the religious right is beyond rational comprehension.  We must accept their arrangement of superstitions and embrace them fully before they will talk to us. 

We must discard science and rationality along with cultural and personal enlightenment.  Since there can be no evolution shall we discard the germ theory of disease?  We can embrace the dark ages and burn books libraries and any other means of allowing satan to cloud over vision.

These extremist are a fringe which came to the fore front with Ronald Regan (another of his legacies).  The sooner we react to these reactionaries the better.  Let them go back to the shadows of superstition from whence they crawled.

So, going by your ideal, a 17 year old girl should be forced to deal with being raped and getting pregnant, and she MUST bear that child despite the horrifying memories it will bring to her, because you are CONVINCED that ALL abortions are evil things.

You then go on to ASSERT that this is good. YOU have no problem forcefully ordering millions of women to do EXACTLY as you say, but YOU have a problem with ME saying that everyone has free will.

I suppose that while she’s at it, that girl should marry her rapist, as is decreed by God, so that the rapist is not a sinner.

You are a truly sick person to claim that abortion is murder of children, when you undoubtedly cheer on war. I say it should be a choice, you idiot, because if it isn’t, it will still happen. That’s right: make abortion illegal, and that just stops the right way of doing it. They’ll be shoved down stairs, or they’ll go to back alleys and get a wire coat hanger shoved up there to do the abortion. These ways endanger the mother as well, so by making abortions illegal, which you think is exactly what God wants, you could quite possibly end up DOUBLING the death caused by abortion.

Doesn’t sound so pretty now, does it? Too busy thinking of all of those unborn Christ-followers to even think of the mothers, eh? Hell, illegal abortions happen now, and they are so much more risky than doing it at a clinic. Never mind that; there’s lives to ruin, and Christians will be damned if they can’t interfere in other people’s lives!

And yes, you ARE forcing your beliefs on others, because when I say pro choice, I am taking NOTHING from people. When you say pro life, you are taking away a woman’s right to abort her child, for whatever reason.

Reply to #105956 by Akira_Maritias on 10/10 at 5:31 am

It’s clear to me that you are the crazy one. Who Kills people the most black people, the pro death abortionist.  Fact Blacks make up about 12% of the US population, and black babies account for about 1/3 of US abortions. Fact Justice Blackburne the author of Row v wade was a former member of the KKK. Fact The founder of Planned Parenthood Margret Spelling said abortion would be useful to control excess population in our intercity area of the US ( Poor intercity is code for black and brown people)
Connect the Dots on the above facts and see who the true racist are .

As for absurd charge of forcing our believes on other , you apparently have no problem imposing your satanic pro death views on 1 million innocent children per year.

When I call the liberal left satanic is a Just statement of FACT. or as the Bible says “by their action will yea know them”

Wow…liberalism is satanism? And I thought Christians were supposed to be getting less crazy…

Yeah, I hope that Christians eventually get pushed down and get told to shut up. No offense to the moderate ones, but the extremist ones are ruining it. They really are. I’m not a liberal or a conservative; I sit in the middle, and I sit in the middle as an atheist. Hell, I just need to be gay and black and bingo! Those crazy ass Christians will have every reason to try and kill me.

With people that backwards in their beliefs, I see no reason for Christians to be permitted to control the nation. It’s disgusting the rights that we have lost because of them. When did the argument for a woman’s decision over whether or not she is ready to care for a baby become the argument held only by aging Christian men? When did marriage become a ‘holy’ thing that gays are not allowed to taint? These are issues swept aside by Christian extremists, because we’ve gotta go kill those Muslims in the name of God!

Kind my ass. Christians only think that they are good because they are in this Christian country, and I am VERY ashamed of America for choosing to do that. We CANNOT be a free country when Christianity holds the reigns. It is IMPOSSIBLE, because Christians will hold back the rights of SOMEONE. We see proof of that NOW: gays and women. Oh, and liberals too, apparently.

I am a proud christian conservative and I say to this so called third way movement Don’t go away mad just go away. This is nothing less than the liberal left ( satanist ) way of trying to salvage a slight victory from the jaws of defeat. The chrisian right is winning the culture war and therefore I have no plans to surrender to the Democrats/Satanist

“Come Let Us Reason Together”, of course, is an admission that their spiritual faculties of inspiration and intuition long ago failed them. Now, they have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the light of REALITY.

Marvellous, though, how people can predicate their “moral concerns” with saluting the flag and marching off to a war of their own country’s making or, worse still, send someone else’s kids off to their filthy profit-driven wars.

Sweeping your own doorstep is always the best course of action before criticizing others. The problem is that once people have religion, they inevitably end up thinking that they own “god” (no wonder ‘it’ always has to be a male god, ha ah!).

One thing that science has more or less accepted is that there really is a “creation” - the big bang. Ironically, not all religious believers want to accept that there really is a “creative force” and they still cling fearfully somehow to their accustomed image of an old man with a beard up in the clouds.

What is more frightening than accepting that they evolved out of some “biological soup”, however, is that they might also be able to regress back into it. That really puts an end to their fantasies that their god will always make it all right for them, no matter how they err. TRUTH is too difficult for them in Its entirety.

Once the genie of human and animal cell research has reached a certain stage, emotional thinking will not save any one of us from its consequences. Already, one Christian church has failed to understand what is the likely outcome of its pathetic choices regarding human-animal hybrids.

No wonder, then, that there is concern as well as outrage and confusion. It is free will taken to its absurd conclusions and solely on a church’s authority over its ignorant flock but utterly devoid of any responsibility for the consequences. See “The Roman Catholic Church has called for women to be allowed to give birth to human-animal hybrids created in the laboratory….” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1993579.ece

And, as always, the politicians quietly step around to save their own asses. Against gay marriage, but for gay rights, against abortion, but for choice.

Not looking forward to this upcoming election. Not at all. Gays are gonna get screwed, and they’ll probably make abortions illegal. If not, I may just eat my entire laptop-or die from shock, whichever comes first.