Consevative Yankee writes:

...“A person born in, naturalized by, or in anyway a citizen of The United States is a US citizen, who by virtue of living on the North American Continent is also a “North American” a classification he shares with Canadians, Mexicans. Some folks include Dominicans, Jamaicans, Haitians, Virgin Islanders, and Cubans they all being located on the North American continental Plate. So there you go, we’re all hyphenated US-Americans!”

CY,
Thanks for pointing this out. It doesn’t always come to the attention of all Americans, (and others). But, this is exactly what is meant be “NATIONALITY” on all travel documents. The forms that request the travelers’ “nationality” expect to have “NORTH AMERICAN” filled-in on that slot, if one is from the US, Canada, or Mexico. (at least). But yes, in other forms, it also includes what are considered to be the Continental US, so sometimes that includes portions of the Carribean as well.

It’s raised a lot of fuss for the upper-end of the middle class travelers these past few years, when GW decided that everyone needed passports. Techically, one SHOULD have a passport to travel anywhere outside of the Continental US, (like Mexico, Canada, and most of the Carribbean). But, there have always been those ‘exceptions’ made in the travel industry, for many of these other countries/islands/nations.

Needless to say, that only applies to the White American traveller, since people who appear to be from any one of these many countries, (people of color) are not so easily allowed to transit around without a passport or other confirmed documentation.

So, that’s why the new “terror laws” requiring passports for everyone, met with such resistance from the Anglo-Americans who are accostomed to cruising around without anything more than a drivers licence, and possibly a birth certificate. (They don’t think they should need ANYTHING to get between here and Mexico or Canada, and as we know, a DL isn’t proof of citizenship). So, they get real huffy when that documentation is requested of them. (proof of US citizenship)

So, when the Shrub ordered the requirement for all to have passports, he had forgotten that it would affect his ‘base’, and that they would be very ‘inconvenienced’ by it. So, he backed off of course.

Still, with times as they are, I would reccommend that everyone get one. (if they can afford it…the things are up to over $100.00 now so I can’t)

Ya just never know when we might have to flee North America.

It’s about time we did away with privledged minorities.

#105779 by Louise
#105816 by Shandooga

LOUISE…

I do believe this is your best one yet!!! May I share with my ‘community’.

We’ve got a Law and Culture -core course- going now, and a special topics Law and Race.

“The Law and Culture ‘first objective’ is to show that law is NEVER neutral, objective, or value-free in its determinationa and practice. Law, in short, can only be understood through the people and social environments in which it operates.”...

That’s from the syllabus. We’ll do some specific ethnographic case studies of the legal processes involved, just to show how the concepts - law(s) and culture(s) are integrally intertwined.

The other, Race and Law, is probably boring to many on this thread, since it’s a history of how law, immiggration, and race relations were shaped together from the early American colonial period through the American Civil War.

Sadly, I don’t think many people care about any of that these days, even though it has everything to do with the way things are now.

Anyway, this is really good, so I’d like to pass it along if I could. 

SHANDOOGA, yours as well:

.....“The *appearance* of progress is but skin deep.  What has actually taken place is that “separate and not equal” has come to pass”...

It’s excellent, and the thing of it is, millions of ‘contemporary’ black folks STILL DON’T RECOGNIZE it themselves!! Do you ever hear Oprah making these points? Of COURSE not.

She’s got everybody thinking all is honkey dory!!

Makes me wanna arm myself with a collection a needles/straight pins, and just walk around pricking every single one of the bubbles of delusion.

You are not an African American if you were born here. You are an American of African decent if you come here and are naturalized as a Citizen. I am not a German American, I am an American. Just like everbody else. Wake up America.

In a nation that permits one to freely endorse, embrace and & espouse any false concept it is no surprise that so many, despite so much evidence to the contrary, seem to believe that there has been some sort of “improvement” in the condition of the descendants of African slaves in the US.  Let me assure you, it is a delusion but one which you’ll prefer to my assurance to the contrary so you will, no doubt, remain deluded.

The *appearance* of progress is but skin deep.  What has actually taken place is that “separate and not equal” has come to pass. To the extent that racist “white” people desire live in white neighborhoods, to that extent such neighborhoods are available to them. 

The government will even validate that desire with a new zip code whenever the line gets blurry.  One’s purchasing power and even employment prospects will then come to hinge (albeit secretly) upon that number and the separation becomes computerized, automated, invisible and plausibly deniable.

Oh, make no mistake, there has been no progress. At this very moment, a conspiracy is brewing to use all law-enforcement agencies (led by Reich security) to eliminate African Americans from this nation altogether.  Of course, you won’t believe that until you see it and they’ve planned for that too.

#105710 by annie

“Someone explain to me what the point of this article is?  Is there even a point???”

I think the point is there, but perhaps even Robinson doesn’t get it. Why are Sharpton and Jackson still listened too? Why are they relevant? Because there are millions in this country who are working poor. They know what hopelessness and discrimination feel like. They know there are virtually no voices for them on the political stage.
That they may not all be black is what nobody’s talking about.

Had Iman’s remarks been purely sexist, degenerating women, the reaction would have been quite different. As one player on the team, a white woman commented, “I don’t understand why he did that to us!” Well it wasn’t just a racial slur. It was the conservative voice that hates women, single mothers, poor people and colored folks, in that order. And that deep-seated prejudice is so fixed in their psyche they say and do things seemingly stupid as a matter of automatic course.

His remarks were sexist and did degenerate women, and there-in lies a clue. Only the black people have been so well organized that when a legitimate offense occurs, someone is there to lead the rally and bring about change!

Perhaps the Black Leaders in our society haven’t yet realized how much value they have. Perhaps when they, along with the rest of society, realize the discrimination and hatred in our society is directed at those who suffer most from the lopsided set of values that produce their condition, those leaders will embrace the real problem. And fight for change for all of us! Poverty and discrimination are rampant in our society and it has very little to do with skin color. Although, racial discrimination is still there deeply buried in a tradition that goes back to the beginning of historical record.

Can you imagine the outrage if someone came forth with proof that America was actually discovered by a Nubian?

I was a bit taken aback when Zahi Hawass so vehemently noted King Tut was not black! What difference does it make? And how does he know? Logic would say he probably was.
http://stewartsynopsis.com/evolvement_of_king_tut.htm 
“It makes a difference of “Who’s Who” on Bible pages; just as it makes a difference of “Who’s Who” in the tombs of the Pyramids, and just as it makes a difference everywhere else. It always has made a difference; if it didn’t, it would not have been necessary for Europeans to obliterate the geographical, cultural and ethnographical truths from real history, in order to construct an alternative history, made in European image and likeness.”

In short, the need for “whites” to believe nothing of value has ever happened unless they did it still festers below the surface. How else could our leaders so easily convince this nation that the Iraqis and now the Iranians are somehow less than us? They are after all, a different color.

Those who have decided the working poor are poor because they don’t like to work [yeh I know, but the word “conservative” is sometimes code for “not to bright”] see poverty and “black” as synonymous because they are so dumb they cant identify anything unless it’s color-coded.

And even those “successful” blacks Robinson cites are part of this insanity. Because their “success” is based on a value system created by and for those of “European” heritage. There is a constant push in the unconscious mind of white society to relegate all “colored folks” to the back seat once again. Deny it, but it’s there and we all know it. How else can we explain writers “looking” for examples of “successful” blacks?

How much time and effort is devoted to looking for success stories about the Russian Americans, or the Norwegian Americans? Or the value of the working poor?

Meanwhile, absent any powerful voice that speaks out against discrimination and prejudice for the non-black, thank goodness we have the Black Leaders who manage to keep those issues on the front burner!

I don’t think that it will ever stop being a problem…

At this point in time, black rights are becoming difficult to push forward. Racism needs to be stamped out in order to give blacks full equality. The problem is that most black rights movements are terribly skewed; they don’t speak of equality, they speak of black supremacy.

For example, the case where that black girl was supposedly raped by those white kids? Several black leaders were calling for those white kids to be locked away for a long time. They insulted them and slandered them. In the end, the white kids were found to be innocent. Those black leaders NEVER apologized for bringing this humiliating case out into the public eye, and they NEVER said ‘sorry’ for publicly mocking them.

There will come a time when a black person will murder someone and it will be caught on tape AND they will admit to the crime…and a black leader will STILL defend them and say that it was the white man’s fault. Mark my words, it will happen.

Equal rights should be just that: equal. Yet now the punishment is harsher if they call it a ‘hate crime’.

Essentially, if you kill a white girl, it’s not NEARLY as bad as killing a black man. When did this become rational? Every life is equal, so why must we punish harder on ground of skin color? It sounds like racism to me…and that’s terrible.

This guy lost me when he said he likes and respects Al Sharpton and values what he has to say.

Get your “I Love Imus” shirts at

cafepress.com/SaveImus .

Show your support for the I-Man!!!!

‘....Why has the NAACP, once such a potent force, lost so much of its membership and relevance? I would argue that it’s because the organization continues to look for a “black agenda” around which we can all unite with the fervor and passion of decades past, when in fact there’s a need for multiple agendas.”...

This is a good piece, though very, very, late. Maybe too late. This part from the article .... the need for muliple agendas, (and the failure to recognize such need) was the beginning of the end of the Civl Rights Movement…the very thing that caused it to fall apart.

So, it’s still a problem.