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Posted on Sep 20, 2007

By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON—How did thousands of African-Americans come to descend on the town of Jena, La., on Thursday for a march and rally that brought to mind the heady days of the civil rights movement? The answer says as much about what has changed over the past half-century as it says about what hasn’t.

    Most people know the outlines of the story by now, but here’s a synopsis: Black students at the local high school sat under a tree that everyone knew was a place where white students usually congregated. White students reacted by hanging three nooses in the tree. Racial tensions escalated from there, including fights in which both black and white students got roughed up but no one was seriously injured. Local authorities, who are white, handled the white offenders with a “boys will be boys” attitude—a few brief school suspensions, basically. Black offenders were expelled from school, arrested and charged as adults with felony offenses, including attempted murder.

    These events happened in 2006. For months, they utterly failed to penetrate the national consciousness. We still might not know about what was happening in Jena if the case hadn’t been noticed by Internet bloggers, who sounded the alarm. And I’m quite sure there would have been no busloads of protesters descending on Jena if the cause hadn’t been taken up by a radio personality best known for R-rated banter about sex and relationships.

    Michael Baisden, whose afternoon drive-time show “Love, Lust & Lies” is heard in urban markets across the country, launched a crusade on behalf of the “Jena Six”—a group of black students, aged 15 to 17 when they allegedly beat up a white schoolmate, and who still face adult charges of aggravated battery that could send them to prison for up to 20 years. The hours that Baisden normally would have spent in risque repartee with “grown and sexy” callers about romance or infidelity were devoted instead to the Jena case.

    The obvious issue was one of equal justice: Either treat the whole series of incidents as a mere disciplinary problem for the high school to handle, or treat it as a criminal matter. Just don’t have one standard of justice for whites and another, much harsher standard for blacks.

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    The cause was then taken up by other black radio hosts—Tom Joyner, whose morning drive-time show has enormous reach; Steve Harvey, the comedian whose morning show usually covers the same “Does he really love me?” territory as does Baisden’s; the Rev. Al Sharpton, whose show, as you might expect, was already heavy on politics and activism.

    Thursday morning, as the throng descended on Jena, both the Joyner and Harvey shows featured live updates from the scene. Baisden and Sharpton were in Jena, helping lead the demonstrations. It’s fair to say that without black radio, the case of the Jena Six probably never would have become a significant national story—and certainly never would have sparked one of the biggest civil rights protests in decades.

    Why is this interesting? Because black America is increasingly complicated and diverse, riven by fault lines that didn’t exist back when the great civil rights heroes were marching in Selma. We’re not forced by law to live in the same neighborhoods or go to the same schools anymore. A generation has reached adulthood without ever experiencing the in-your-face racism of the Jim Crow era. There are black families who have had multigenerational middle-class success, and black families trapped in multigenerational poverty and dysfunction.

    Black radio is one of the places where all the varied segments of black America still come together. It’s a true community medium, even if what we still call “the black community” is, for most purposes, best thought of as plural.

    But Thursday’s protest needed more than the right medium, it needed the right message. When a local prosecutor in a small Southern town is confronted with a racial clash and he gives the whites a mild slap on the wrist while trying his best to send the blacks to prison, there aren’t many black Americans who feel they can enjoy the luxury of indifference.

    We don’t see that many instances of overt, unapologetic, separate-and-unequal racial discrimination these days, thank goodness. Let’s hope we never see another. Because when something like Jena happens, we’re reminded, as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote in his letter from the Birmingham jail, that “injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” And we’re reminded that however diverse we are, to some people we all look alike.
   
    Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.
   
    © 2007, Washington Post Writers Group


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By mackTN, October 5, 2007 at 4:44 pm #

When adults abandon their responsibilities, children will take matters into their own hands.  The truth is that none of this had to be.  If school officials had addressed the problem when it occurred, making it clear that discrimination, acts of hate, etc. would not be tolerated at the school, creating an active solution that required apologies from the noose hangers and implementing some kind of racial sensitivity workshop for students—then the lives, the well-being of all children might have been saved. 

School fighting, bullying, excluding can be very painful and extreme—but is the answer to throw the students into jail for life?  Do you call the police if your son punches his sister in the nose? 

If a student is caught stealing a teacher’s purse, should we just throw him in jail and forget about him?  The best time to help a person, to effect behavior is when he or she is young.  We expect kids to behave as adults, to have control over their impulses and not need the education they are seeking. 

The children hanging the nooses received no publicized reprimand.  But when racial tensions escalated afterward, the district attorney was brought in to threaten black students. 

It’s hard not to act out when you are treated like garbage. Perhaps if a few white teachers had approached some of the black students and hugged them, apologized for the hateful students, and assured them that they were just as valuable to that school as anyone else none of this would have happened.  Is that so hard to do?

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By cyrena, September 27, 2007 at 4:33 am #

#102693 by rage

You GO rage!!! Thanks for the very important tip. Like about how the HUMAN RACE being the issue.

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By Ford, September 27, 2007 at 3:20 am #

Friends nor enemies always unite in one. Two different sides may come together if theey have one goal. In a battlefield where rivals are at war are also united in one thing. Nobody knows what that thing is but it is there very visible.
In our country there are many tribal wars but I know they are united as a citizen of our country. When colonialism had spread through countries, tribals helped each other to defeat the enemy.

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By gncarlo, September 26, 2007 at 7:54 pm #

Last night, I dropped off a friend in the city and drove back through the ghetto.  I stopped at a Chinese carry-out to pick up some things for the folks at home ( an incredible people, the Chinese, able to do so much with so little).  As soon as I got out of the car and walked up to the window, one negroid, about fifty feet away, called someone on his cell phone. Then he walked towards me, trying to get a look into my wallet as I was paying. Immediately, about four of his associates showed up on bicycles.  They milled about me, chattering about “dat white boy.”  None of them appeared interested in putting in a food order.  I put my back against a wall, so that I was covered, and put my hand on my can of MACE.  Within a few minutes, two white men showed up, and the bugs retreated about fifty feet, circling the parking lot on their bikes. I was able to retrieve my food and leave without further incident. 
  I realize that I am guilty, in the minds of many of the deep-thinking “progressives” here, not only of unfair stereotyping, but of depriving these savages of their “civil right” to stomp my azz and relieve my of the contents of my wallet.  Having formerly lived in this area for nearly thirty years,  I did what I knew I had to do to protect myself.
  There seems to be a mathematical law that white people become more liberal, guilt-ridden, and silly in their prattling in inverse proportion to their proximity to any concentration of blacks and/or familiarity with the latter tribe’s behavior.
  I used to drive a cab and watched the city’s demographics change, until it became impossible to make a living without the serious threat of injury or death.  I have been robbed, shot at, and stabbed such that I was on life-support. So that, one might say, they have already “murdered” me. I do not hate blacks as a group, but I understand that there are ineradicable differences whether it is PC or in conformity with socialist dogma to recognize such differences. The greatest evil is the many white people who, often with the best of ignorant intentions,  preach to blacks that everything that goes wrong in their lives is the fault of (unspecified) white people. Blacks become convinced that any crime against whites is “racial justice.”  I think that these white leftists bear much responsibility for black behavior becoming more destructive over the last century.
  I used to have friends in suburbia who were quite liberal in their views, living in a lily-white neighborhood where the occasional black was an exotic novelty.  They would ask me why I was so prejudiced and narrow-minded.  I would ask them why they did not take advantage of the depressed real estate prices in the urban core, as well as the opportunity to send their children to a “multi-cultural” (black) school.  I was not invited back to their self-congratulatory social gatherings.
  Just my two cents, for what it’s worth….

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By rage, September 26, 2007 at 10:27 am #
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“There are millions of people in the U. S., of all color, who need to be busy at raising their level of conscious thought by working for peace, love, harmony, truth, justice and the common good.  Only by moving from violence can entire races and entire societies move forward and move out of hate.”

#102546 by sharon ash on 9/25 at 8:18 am

We need to first ABANDON the myth that people of different colors represent different races. All people of all ethnicities and cutlures equally constitute the single HUMAN RACE.

Different skin colors and hair textures no more constitute different races than do different human blood types. Ford is still a car, even though it is not a Bentley. One just costs more and is more superlatively appointed. But, both are still cars. Black people are members of the Human Race even though they are not white people. One color presumes to horde benefits and privileges of global dominance by the virtues of imperial Divine Providence. But, both colors of men are EQUAL members of the SINGLE HUMAN RACE, even in Jena where we’re still fight for such justice.

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By sharon ash, September 25, 2007 at 12:18 pm #
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At the lower and lowest levels of conscious thinking, war, hate, murder, all forms of violent behavior, are the reality.  Hanging a noose transpires from lower levels of thinking.  Trying to stomp in the head of another transpires from lower level thinking.  Marching in support of, or in opposition to, lower level thinking and actions does nothing to help move others into higher level thinking.  People who operate at lower level thinking do not bring positive results to society.  There are millions of people in the U. S., of all color, who need to be busy at raising their level of conscious thought by working for peace, love, harmony, truth, justice and the common good.  Only by moving from violence can entire races and entire societies move forward and move out of hate.  Consider supporting the efforts to establish a U.S. Department of Peace and Nonviolence as it attempts to address the violence in the United States.  There is house resolution HR808 in support of this.  Please contact your congressperson and ask them to support this important legislation.

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By Verla Mae, September 24, 2007 at 7:33 pm #
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“I watch Amy’s show a lot.  However, like some of her counterparts on the right (such as Fox News), she is not always completely honest.

From Associated Press:

The so-called “white tree” at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.”

#102093 by P. T. on 9/22 at 6:20 pm

It should be a crime to say Democracy Now and Fox News in the same paragraph.

You make your claim like AP is the last bastion of truth, second only to the Bible.

Associated Press is as jaded and prejudicial as Fox. Were they not, AP would have brought us all these details months back when all this first happened. Then, I could accept their noose-count. But, they’re months late with a noose-count based on community gossip meant to clean up Jena’s bad reputation in front of company. No city wants to be known for its Klan rallies and cross-burnings.

AP has already received marching orders from their snooty corporate handlers. The powers that be all want to dismiss the facts as either exxagerated or insignificant in an effort to minimize this thing. But, honey, this thing is just too big a deal for that. Any time six black adolescents are charged as adults in an adult court with attempted murder for winning a fight at school, and then sentenced to life in prison by an all white jury that could not possibly even trick-or-treat on Halloween as a jury of these kids’ peers, it’s a HUGE deal! The fact that every now and again, one or two non-white kids got to enjoy the shade of the white tree does not minimize nor justify the horror these six kids have suffered in a corrupt court system where overt racism is obviously institutionally engrained.

Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales have spent way more time in Jena investigating and interviewing both sides of this thing than Associated Press. So, I am more inclined to beleive the folks at Democracy Now over some corporate owned news wire service.

Just because Amy and Juan aren’t sugar-coating this story to hide American bigorty and injustice from you sensitive embarrassed viewers does not mean their reporting is disingenuous. Democracy Now’s tagline is that they speak truth to power. Amy and Juan are just turning the search light of reality in on us to show us our uglier selves. The whole round world is getting a real good look at butt-naked America with all the lights on. And, it is not a very pretty sight these days. With Bush and Cheney at the helm of this sinking ship of state, America only boasts bigger boobs than ever, but, no brains, heart, or soul.

America can’t go on trying to justify her national indifference to Jena’s inequitable treatment of these six black kids. No matter how many nooses Associated Press counted, hanging just one was a hate crime that carried criminal consequences way beyond a few days of in-school suspension.

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By farmertx, September 24, 2007 at 9:45 am #

Cyrena
Lincoln did issue the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862. However, Texas, being part of the CSA, did not take notice of that nor any other order issued by the Union.
After the surrender in 1865, a Major was dispatched to Galveston via ship to spread the word, hence the time lag.
Juneteenth has been celebrated in Texas for years, although strangely, the Civil Rights movement caused some to downplay the holiday. Not real sure of their reasoning, other than somehow it was seen as holding on to a past that they wanted eliminated.
However, it is a State holiday here, signed into law by Dolph Briscoe.
There is much of history that wasn’t taught in school. I reckon that is still the case in some States.
And you are tight about ones location bearing a role on ones attitude and thoughts.
Times are changing in East Texas. Though not enough.
There was the sad story of bus loads of Blacks being forced to move on to another city in East Texas after Rita hit the coast.
Happily, Canton opened up the Civic Center and did its best to feed and help the evacuee’s.
I doubt that racism will ever be completely a thing of the past, at least not nationwide.
Being white, as you pointed out, I cannot fully understand the feelings and emotions that Blacks nor any other Race have. And I am wont to type something that sounds right to me, only to offend another, completely unintentionally.
When I am called on it, it adds to my understanding of the differences. And I modify my thoughts accordingly if it is warrented.
And understanding one another and dealing with that understanding is what it is all about, or should be.

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By cyrena, September 24, 2007 at 3:40 am #

Farmertx,

...“At the same time, you get a bunch of Black teens and ask them about the struggles to achieve Civil Rights and you just might be surprised at the shallowness of their knowledge.”

Farmertx,

First, let me tell you that I’m not the LEAST bit surprised by the shallowness of the black teens that you’ve encountered, as to ANY knowledge of the earlier struggles on their behalf. I acknowledge this with great sadness, (as I do everyday) because I understand ALL of the reasons why, and they are too long to articulate here.

That said, I would point to your location, as part of the reason. (because, I study this stuff). There are different mindsets that accompany different parts of our nation, just as their are other variables that go with geographics. A regions’ or nations’ collective social mentality can be determined by many things.

But, here’s one thing (may not seem to have anything to do with this, but bear with me), that might exemplify what I’m saying. I’m hoping that because you live in Texas, (and even though you’re white) you may have heard of the (for lack of any better word) –holiday- that African-Americans have long celebrated in Texas, (and it has sort of spread from there), referred to as “JUNETEENTH”. Well, I’m from California, and despite being black, I never heard of it, until I moved to Texas.

Now, I don’t wanna bore anybody with any long stories about what this holiday is, but in the nutshell, African-Americans in Texas apparently started this memorial celebration to mark the Emancipation Proclamation. And, THAT certainly sounds like a holiday to commemorate, and in my idealistic view, it should be celebrated by ALL Americans, with equal fervor. The day that the Abe decreed that human beings could not be held in bondage, and forced to work for nothing, traded as cattle, and treated as less than a full human, because they happened to be black.

But here’s the catch. The Emancipation Proclamation was issued by Lincoln on Sept, 22, 1862, to become effective on Jan. 1, 1863. So far so good. The slaves were finally gonna be free. BUT, the slaves in TEXAS didn’t find out about it until June 19, 1865!! We’re talking what, damn near THREE YEARS LATER!!!

Now, I’m not saying it’s their fault they didn’t get the memo for that long. Maybe smoke signal transmissions didn’t get down that far. I don’t know what the deal was, since it would appear from the historical accounts, that pretty much all of the OTHER slaves knew they were at least SUPPOSED to be free by the Presidential degree, which became ratified as the 13th Amendment, just 6 months after the black folks in Texas got the word. 

But, what I AM saying, is that it seems (at least to me) like it’s sort of set a pattern. If you look over any parts of the Civil Rights Movement, you’ll be hard pressed to find any real involvement of the blacks in Texas at the time. That’s not to say that NONE of them were part of it, but the truth of the matter is that Texas, (all of it’s people, regardless of color) have seemingly been sort of last on the food chain, for progressive types of mindsets. Like one of my former co-workers once observed, “Well, there’s Texas, and then there’s the United States.” Another simply described it as a “3rd World State”. Having said that, I will sleep with one eye open tonight, ever vigilant that a native Texan of any color, might sneak a noose on to the lower branches of my tree house.

But, I’m not just pickin’ on Texans or African-Americans from Texas. The sadder truth is that so many of the lastest generations of black people are unaware of their history, because a legacy of slavery is not something that the majority has wanted to make known to the world. You have to admit that it’s a pretty sad testimony to our beginnings as a Nation.

I didn’t learn ANYTHING about the history of African-Americans -in school-, until I got to college.

So, that’s at least PART of the reason for that shallowness.

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By Frank Cajon, September 24, 2007 at 12:34 am #

Some of us that don’t live in that part of the country that still believes it won the war fought over slavery, forty years after the Civil Rights movement, occasionally need a leaked story like this to remind us that racism and hate are very much alive and well in America. Never mind that the Reich masters have thrown out the law desegregating schools, in small rural towns in the South-my son works in one-nothing has changed. The white kids in these situations get one kind of justice, the blacks another, and though the lych mobs are less frequent, you can see that a kid that got in a fight and went to a party the same night was subject to ‘attempted murder’. In these towns, the white kids won’t get arrested or charged with crimes when kids of both race are at fault for fighting, and the whole thing was touched off by a hate crime. It’s the same old racist South.

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By PatrickHenry, September 23, 2007 at 11:55 am #

If we are going to relive the civil rights movement lets relive the anti war movement as well.

Let the courts go through the paces and let appeals work as well, happens every day in this country with a whole range of issues more important than this one.

Whites are a minority in the suburb of Washington DC where I live and I am subject to variations of discrimination from a handful of blacks I meet or interact with.  On a professional level I have to deal with set asides, 8A minority contractors only which are not fair but daily business.

Where was the outrage from Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson on Channon Christians murder, a far more serious “hate crime” than Jena.

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By farmertx, September 23, 2007 at 6:06 am #

Cyrena
My comment on the kids not understanding was directed at the white kids understanding the full significance of the noose.
Looking back at the post I could have been more explicit.
At the same time, you get a bunch of Black teens and ask them about the struggles to achieve Civil Rights and you just might be surprised at the shallowness of their knowledge.
This is from personal recent experiance.

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By gncarlo, September 23, 2007 at 12:57 am #

“We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.”
Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957 top of page

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By cyrena, September 22, 2007 at 10:54 pm #

•  #101808 by John Borowski on 9/21 at 11:16 am
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Are we living in a reiteration of a previous life? Have you ever had the eerie feeling that you have already lived through the present experience?
They call this feeling “déjà vu” John, and yep…I get it all of the time. I think it’s because in experiences like this, we all feel it, because it’s ALWAYS been there. Racism has existed since the inception of this country. It has ALWAYS been here, and unless one has lived it, (as a person of color) then one may not be able to grasp the full understanding of it. (then again, I think there are many white folks who understand it perfectly, and it’s lasted for centuries, because it’s what works for them.)

FamerTx, to suggest that kids don’t have any clue to what their parents or grandparents experienced, SPECIFICALLY black people, is an insult. It’s an egregious insult, and I take great umbrage with the Manifest Destiny and Great White Hope mentality that you display. Maybe YOUR strain of genetics is not in tune with the experiences of their earlier generations, but people of color are VERY well aware of the experiences of their ancestors, as well as their own obvious notice of the SAME bigotry that has been passed on to them, that they see and feel everyday of their lives.

Example: a couple of years ago at Halloween,  one of my neighbors HUNG a scarecrow- type stuffed figure from a NOOSE attached to his little balcony. This was right here in Southern California, but not a section where there are many people of color. However, for the few of us who ARE of color, we didn’t think it was a DAMN bit decorative or entertaining. (and we’re pretty well laid back here). STILL, the message was obvious, and a few minutes spent in attempted discussion with the perpetrator of this NOT FUNNY prank, revealed him to be the typical trailer house racist red-neck from Arkansas. And, he didn’t intend it in the celebratory spirit of Halloween.

Please don’t attempt to speak for those of whom you have not a clue, at least not until you’ve taken to time to actually find out.

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By P. T., September 22, 2007 at 10:47 pm #

A black man says police discriminate against him.

From Associated Press:

Huey Crockett, 50, lives with his wife, Carla, 45, in a heavily wooded, predominantly black district just beyond Jena’s limits, an area known as “The Country.” The Crocketts, who are black, have complained to police that Bell and other youngsters were causing trouble in their neighborhood — scratching cars with keys, breaking the windows of parked cars, spraying property with paint.

The authorities, Crockett says, were always slow to respond.

“But as soon as he had a run-in with a white boy, they came down on him like a hammer. That’s not right. If I call the police for an incident here, it may take them an hour, an hour and half to get out here. But they’ll be right out in an instant if a white person calls them.”

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By P. T., September 22, 2007 at 10:34 pm #

That the victim wasn’t badly hurt or killed was good fortune.  The perps could be up on murder charges.  Attempted murder goes to the issue of intent, not the result.  What is the intent of somebody who kicks an unconscious person in head?

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By P. T., September 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #

I watch Amy’s show a lot.  However, like some of her counterparts on the right (such as Fox News), she is not always completely honest.


From Associated Press:

The so-called “white tree” at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.

Two nooses — not three — were found dangling from the tree. Beyond being offensive to blacks, the nooses were cut down because black and white students “were playing with them, pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them,” according to a black teacher who witnessed the scene.

There was no connection between the September noose incident and December attack, according to Donald Washington, an attorney for the U.S. Justice Department in western Louisiana, who investigated claims that these events might be race-related hate crimes.

The three youths accused of hanging the nooses were not suspended for just three days — they were isolated at an alternative school for about a month, and then given an in-school suspension for two weeks.

The six-member jury that convicted Bell was, indeed, all white. However, only one in 10 people in LaSalle Parish is African American, and though black residents were selected randomly by computer and summoned for jury selection, none showed up.

About 225 miles and a world apart from racially mixed New Orleans, Jena (pronounced JEE-nuh) is a throwback.

Here, one refers to elders as “Sir,” and “Ma’am.” Children still pull catfish from creeks; couples court at Jena Giants football games; families rope goats and calves at weekend rodeos.

In a place where per capita income is $13,761, there aren’t any swank, French restaurants, but rather, family eateries such as the Burger Barn, Ginny’s and Maw & Paw’s. Most of Jena’s 14-odd churches stage Easter egg hunts. On summer afternoons, sweet tea and lemonade on a neighbor’s front porch are obligatory.

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By farmertx, September 22, 2007 at 10:16 pm #

Re:#102078 by Frank on 9/22 at 5:08 pm
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Frank, how can it have been such a terrible beating and the victim not even spend 1 night in the hospital. Treated and released denote’s a butt whipping, not attempted murder.

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By Frank, September 22, 2007 at 9:08 pm #

There are essentially two groups of people with two distinct viewpoints on the charges in this case:

1) People who understand that group kicking and stomping on the head of an individual already on the ground can reasonably be considered attempted murder.

and…

2) Morons, Simpletons, and Idiots.

Group stomping of someone’s head is not reasonable self-defense, nor is it even simply retributive pain infliction when the individual is already unconscious. It can only for the purpose of continuing significant damage to the head area of the person being assaulted without concern for the obvious possible consequences of brain injury or death.

The charges against the so-called Jena 6 were justified and I’ll wager that few if any of the people currently protesting would disagree with me if they had been white kids that stomped a black youth unconscious.  Al Sharpton would probably be calling for those kids to be locked away for life, had they been white. But dark skin has a way of transforming criminal offenders into oppressed-victims-of-circumstance in the twisted world view of many leftists.

The incredible stupidity (gosh, how racist) of the thousands of people who marched and all the liberal apologists for them is unbelievable. They seem to think that a fight is a fight is a fight and that charges should always be equal for any such incident regardless of circumstance or consequences, because anything else is “racial inequality”.  Apparently six-on-one stomping of an individual past the point of unconsciousness is just an average school fight to those who find the charges excessive. I’m glad I didn’t grow up in the culture where that is considered normal.

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By Sabby, September 22, 2007 at 2:09 pm #
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It was Democracynow.org’s Amy Goodman who really ran with the story..

Viewers of Democracynow were aware of this story loong before it was picked up by any of these “black radio” stations or the MSM whores.

She first broke the story almost 3 months ago:

This is from July 10th report:

http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2007/july/video/dnB20070710a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=9:23

Let’s recognize Amy for her excellent reporting on this story.

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By cyrena, September 22, 2007 at 4:14 am #

#101921 by mackTN

•  Whites fail to realize that one’s perception of reality is based on one’s experience—reality is an interpretive perspective which we organize based on the information we’ve stored from life experiences, education, etc.

MackTN,

If given a currency value, these words would be worth at least a billion, if not way more. Specifically, your explanation that one’s perception of reality is based on one’s experience; I would add only that there is in fact a DNA attached to this perspective, just like any other genetic piece of our being. No two people are exactly alike in their perception of reality, though there are certainly those who will be closer than others. (like twins maybe…people with similar experiences)

I truly wish more folks could “get this”, because it’s critical to our collective survival, but I’m telling you, it’s really tuff going these days. We are no longer training ourselves or each other, to be able to view the world though the eyes of others, and that spells atrophy of the senses, and then…death of the individual.

The only thing I would add to this, is just a reminder that while it’s ‘mostly’ white folks who don’t get this, it afflicts people of color as well.

Thanks for the wisdom.

#101877 by Louise
•  I suspect Doctor King would have been outraged by this injustice and racial prejudice. And I suspect were he here today, he would have been leading the march!
Dang it Louise, you’ve given me back –Religion-!! (I guess because I can switch pretty effortlessly from transmit to receive. wink)


Damn right Dr. King would have been pissed as hell, and leading that march!! And, I more than suspect it, I KNOW it!!

Somebody should have been reading his Letters from the Birmingham Jail, yesterday, just to make his presence known. (and, somebody may have. I don’t know, since I couldn’t go. Grounded)

I was there in spirit though.

Meantime, you are a wise woman. (but, you probably already know that.):0

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By Verne Arnold, September 22, 2007 at 3:25 am #

#101908 by Enemy of State on 9/21 at 8:46 pm
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Verne, keep talking.

Thanks and yes, I will.  Too many, mostly white people, just don’t get it after all of these years.

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By mackTN, September 22, 2007 at 2:13 am #

What bothers me really?  When OJ was acquitted of killing his wife and friend, the white community screamed in outrage about it.  They characterized the jury as stupid.  Whites fail to realize that one’s perception of reality is based on one’s experience—reality is an interpretive perspective which we organize based on the information we’ve stored from life experiences, education, etc.  Black people viewed the OJ situation based on their everyday relationship with the criminal justice system—we have too many black people arrested, harassed, falsely accused, set up to put a lot of faith in the police’s version of things. 

When OJ was arrested this past week in Las Vegas, the media had him investigated, tried, and judged in one short week.  Whites were outraged that he had gotten away with murder and they were on television screaming bloody hell about the INJUSTICE.

But where was there sense of INJUSTICE when black people were assassinated, lynched, set up, thrown into prison unreasonably.  Why does INJUSTICE only get coverage when a white person is killed senselessly? 

These are children in Jena, LA.  Children who have been on this planet for only 16 years, yet people expect them to control themselves in a mature, adult manner.  These boys were charged with adult felonies, attempted murder for a schoolhouse fight that could have been avoided if the school had addressed the initial wrong.  Hanging nooses, painting swastikas, are provocative acts difficult for even adults to deal with emotionally.

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By Enemy of State, September 22, 2007 at 12:46 am #

Verne, keep talking.

  I think this is a case where no white person is going to have the same strong emotional response on seeing such a noose, as a black person from the south. We can only imagine the effect it has.

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By P. T., September 21, 2007 at 10:40 pm #

The six guys attacked somebody who was not one of the guys who supposedly put up the alleged nooses.

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By Louise, September 21, 2007 at 9:30 pm #

#101810 by Grousefeather on 9/21 at 11:23 am
“HELLO!
Please switch from transmit to receive for a change and answer my question!”

#101748 by Grousefeather on 9/21 at 5:59 am
“Martin Luther King Jr. would never have condoned violence, so could someone please explain to me why violence is being justified and it’s effects minimized in this case?”
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Sir, violence is not being justified in this case. At least not by the people marching in Jena and certainly not by the parents of the Jena six. That is not what this is about.

This is about JUSTICE!

Six black juveniles are alleged to have beat up one white juvenile.
The alleged victim recovered from his cuts and bruises and suffered no permanent damage.
The black kids were arrested and charged with attempted murder!
So far one has been tried ... while a juvenile ... in Adult court.

He was found guilty and sentenced to LIFE in prison!

Sir, life in prison is NOT justice for a beating, irregardless of any and all extenuating circumstances.
That appears to be JUSTICE based an racial bias. A common ailment in some parts of the country, particularly some parts of the South.

Even the State ruled the boy should never have been tried in an adult court and overturned the conviction!
But still he sits in prison. A juvenile, in adult prison.

He has been in that prison for ten months now.

I suspect Doctor King would have been outraged by this injustice and racial prejudice. And I suspect were he here today, he would have been leading the march!

Leading a force of numbers demanding justice.
Not a force of thugs looking to start a violent confrontation.

That role is all too often relegated to the other side.

While the good people of Jena insist this is not a race issue, their reaction ... or over-reaction indicates otherwise.

Maybe you don’t remember the fight for racial equality led by Doctor King. Maybe you’re too young.

There was violence, a lot of violence ...
and murder. But it came from the other side.
Sir what ultimately happened to Doctor King who always preached non violence?

He was shot and killed calling for justice.

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By Antwoine, September 21, 2007 at 8:29 pm #
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Comments on here range from stupidity to ignorance. You can quote Wiki all you want to. You can shield the white kids all you want to and villify the black kids (nothing new) as much as you like, and keep telling the author how wrong he is here or there.
There is a reason that black kid asked an authority figure at the school if he/she could sit under the tree or not. There is a reason the nooses were placed on the tree. I love how white people chastize other races for responding with violence when that is all they do all the time in everything. Look at the wars our government starts. Look at the use of force back in the day before and after Jim Crow.
I read a book a few months ago about the black man who learned to read when he was 98. The book was called “Life Is Good”. The first chapter of the book tells of how a white woman lied to her father about being pregnant. Because she did not want her father to whip her she lied and said that a black guy that worked for her father had did it. The black kid was no more that 16, and well liked because he worked hard and was polite. The father formed a lynch mob, the sherrif stepped in and took over, the blacks on the street were held back either by fear of getting hung themselves or being dared to lift a finger or their voice in protest. They hung that black kid and later when the child was born the kid came out white, and there was no justice for what they had done to that black kid and the whole town knew it. Whether there were whites that did not agree they still sat idly by, as they do now, and did nothing.
Hate is what those nooses symbolize. It was not a childish prank as some of you ignorant people have said. Hate is what racial injustice has spawned from the start of the history of this nation. Hate has been used against black people at every turn and when black people respond to that hate with all they have white people act as if they have done nothing wrong. Sad, really….. the title fits fine. Any title showing the harsh reality of situations that have been ignored….would fit fine. A white person need never fear a noose hanging from anywhere unless they are commiting suicide and hanging themselves. Hate gives birth to fear, fear leads to violence, violence begets more hate…..see a cycle here?
And please, white people, stop acting so surprised. Nifong in the Duke case got crushed because he was trying to protect a black female stripper against 4 white boys. Something happened, but there will never be any justice even if they just roughed her up, and they did because the cops the next day retrieved broken fingernails and other items from the bathroom she said she was in. Let’s not forget Katrina. A few months ago there were crazy floods in the mid-west and east coast. How did the government respond to them? The greatest injustice to us all is indifference and apathy. White people rant and rave when they are causght breaking their own rules, but parade black people around through the media and villify them as if they were evil incarnate. Why not just go around and hang nooses everywhere, then we will see how much racial harmony there truly is. That one black friend you parade around as your “I am not racist because I have a black friend” excuse will not be your friend for long.

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By P. T., September 21, 2007 at 5:05 pm #

I’m madder than Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson at a bar mitzvah.  That white kid’s vicious attack on those six black kids was uncalled for.

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By P. T., September 21, 2007 at 4:58 pm #

“At one incident, a white student approached a group of blacks with a broken bottle and a shotgun; the blacks disarmed the white student without harming him, yet they were charged with theft of his property!!  Huh?”


That happened near a store when a white kid fled from three black kids.  He went to his truck and grabbed a gun.  Rather than shoot them, he let them take the gun from him.

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By P. T., September 21, 2007 at 4:45 pm #

Hanging up a picture of O.J. out to get you 30 years of hard labor.

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By mackTN, September 21, 2007 at 4:22 pm #

While I appreciate much of Robinson’s discourse on the Jena episode, I am perplexed with his title; I don’t believe the thousands that rallied in Jena were motivated to do so by hate, nor do I think that is the one issue that unifies the black community.  Perhaps united by anger over injustices, which still function everywhere in this country regardless of class, level of education, etc. 

It’s been a recent and accelerating phenomenon for the criminal justice system to go into schools and criminalize students—mostly minority students. Back in the 60s when I was in high school, there were fights everyday—between cliques, schools, at football games, etc.  Rarely were the police called to arrest students.  The schools handled discipline and suspended, reassigned, or expelled chronic offenders.  But these days everything seems to be a matter for the police, moreso for young minority men than for any other group. 

The school, indeed the town, could have nipped this in the bud when those nooses were hung from the tree, made it clear in no uncertain terms that that kind of racist display would not be tolerated.  But they did nothing and so racially charged events continued to occur in the ensuing months.

In all the incidents that have happened between whites and blacks during the months between the nooses and the beating of that boy, only the black students have been charged.  At one incident, a white student approached a group of blacks with a broken bottle and a shotgun; the blacks disarmed the white student without harming him, yet they were charged with theft of his property!!  Huh?

The white people in Jena who say everyone there loves one another probably don’t have one close black friend—unless it’s a maid or employee.  They are blind to the difficulties in the lives of black Americans who are dependent on a majority for education, jobs, and justice.  Even Eugene Robinson, who authored the above piece, has to count on the majority playing fair and allowing him to exercise his livelihood.

And, now, this 16-yearold has been denied bail—again.  Defies understanding, really.

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By Grousefeather, September 21, 2007 at 3:23 pm #
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HELLO!

Please switch from transmit to receive for a change and answer my question!

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By John Borowski, September 21, 2007 at 3:16 pm #
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Are we living in a reiteration of a previous life? Have you ever had the eerie feeling that you have already lived through the present experience? Are intelligent beings from outer space reviewing what led up to this charred cinder floating silently in space along with the other trillions of failed civilizations? (Yes I know, when kids herding smelly goats claim to have seen the blessed virgin in the dirty window of the out house; the faithful will all run there to pray); (When Carter, scientists, airline pilots, policemen, and other credible people claim to have seen a flying saucer, they mock them and suggest they are mentally imbalanced) A sane society that hasn’t killed them self off for billions of years and have developed an ineffable level of technology and spirituality would not communicate with an insane one. Intelligent scientists spend millions of dollars trying to do so. How could a sane society communicate with an insane one if they no longer exist?

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By P. T., September 21, 2007 at 3:13 pm #

Bearing in mind the gulags in the Soviet Union, how much prison time should someone get for hanging a red flag up?

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By farmertx, September 21, 2007 at 2:39 pm #

Re:#101757 by Verne Arnold on 9/21 at 6:49 am
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Get a grip, Verne.
These are kids we are talking about.
The noose is a bad symbol of a much worse time. But for kids to use it once isn’t cause for folks loding it.
Had it been an adult, that wasn’t retarded or mentally ill, put a noose up, then he/she should have known better and dealt with a little harsher.
Kids, Black or White or Brown or Red have little to no understanding what their parents and grand parents had to face daily.
That outside attention was drawn to Jena is a good thing, as it will make other folks aware that things such as this aren’t easily tolerated and the punishment has to fit the offense.

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By Scott, September 21, 2007 at 1:38 pm #

The truth is America has been globally embarrassed to have to admit that our human and civil rights strides have all been hugely very deliberately regressive, particularly during this Presidential administration, denoting that Jena is not the only hot spot.

Kind of makes the Statue of Liberty look a little more like that flaming eyeball in Mordor doesn’t it?

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By nci, September 21, 2007 at 1:32 pm #
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Nancy Hatfield:
“while only expelling the white students for their own beatings against the black students prior to the nooses hanging from the…” 

What beatings are you referring to?  I have read nothing in any account of white students “beating” black students.

rage:

“Why is that an ethnic group that nationally makes up less than 12 percent of the total population conveniently represents more than 80 percent of its prison population?”

Not true.  See Table13 in a recent Dept. of Justice Bulletin at “http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/pjim06.pdf”

In 2006 Blacks account for 40.3% of male and female inmates in federal, state, and local jails.  Whites were 36.2%, Hispanics 20.5%, and Asians and Native Americans were 3.0%.

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By nci, September 21, 2007 at 1:12 pm #
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part2:

What about hate crime charges against those that hung nooses?  (Again, from Wiki) “According to U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the FBI agents who investigated the incident, as well as federal officials who examined it, found that it “had all the markings of a hate crime.” However, it wasn’t prosecuted because it failed to meet federal standards required for the teens to be certified as adults.”  Washington is a black man by the way…  Should there be laws on the books making it a crime to hang nooses?  My reading of the law seems to indicate that sometimes it would be illegal, other times considered free speech…  The tree incident seems like it SHOULD be illegal.  We as a society should address that.  And in-school suspension seems entirely too lenient…

Did the hanging of the nooses lead to the beatdown of the white kid by six black kids?  Apparently not, according to those charged.  Wiki: “In late July 2007, U.S. Attorney Donald Washington claimed a lack of connection between the noose incident and the beating at Jena High school. None of the statements taken regarding the fight, over 40 in all, mentioned the noose incident.”

Why were there no blacks on the jury?  None responded to the jury summons.  See Wiki…

So, my take is that, essentially, we have an overzealous district attorney (reminds me of the attorney in the Duke case)who brought charges that are entirely innappropriate.  Maybe he’ll end up being disbarred too.  Yes, the kid was assaulted and beaten unconscious (regardless of what he was able to do later that night…), but it probably wasn’t attempted murder, and I am glad the charges were reduced and or dropped (i don’t think it’s been determined yet…).

I think what happened in Jena is sad, and doesn’t speeak well for us as a nation.  But please, Mr. Richardson, and others, get all the facts straight.  When you read “all white jury” it makes the situation seem different than it actually is.  Or “white tree”... apparently the black kids hung out at their on site, the bleachers - could a white kid go there?  I don’t know, but “white tree” makes it seem like it was a kkk mandated gathering spot for whites or something.

I admit that the info. above was garnered mostly from Wikipedia, which could be subject to inaccuracy.  If someone could point out incorrect info, please do so.

Finally, apparently this is Mychal Bell, on of the Jena 6, has already been convicted of battery.  Twice.  Clearly, he is going down the wrong road, and I hope that he can turn his life around with this second chance.

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By nci, September 21, 2007 at 1:10 pm #
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“Racial tensions escalated from there, including fights in which both black and white students got roughed up but no one was seriously injured. Local authorities, who are white, handled the white offenders with a “boys will be boys” attitude—a few brief school suspensions, basically. Black offenders were expelled from school, arrested and charged as adults with felony offenses, including attempted murder.”

I have followed the Jena case closely, and I have seen NOTHING that refers to the above mentioned “a few suspensions” related to white boys in fights.  I don’t think Robinson did his homework.  3 white boys were suspended from shool for hanging nooses in a tree.  Not for fighting.  Expulsion was recommended, but not administered. 

Two fighting incidents are commonly talked about, one of which involves white men who weren’t students.  This altercation resulted in one white man being convicted of battery and put on probation (from Wikipedia…) “On Friday, December 1, 2006 there was a private party, attended mostly by whites, at the Fair Barn. Five black youths, including 16-year-old Robert Bailey, attempted to enter the party at about 11 p.m. According to U.S. Attorney Washington, they were told by a woman that they were not allowed inside without an invitation. The five youths persisted, stating that some friends were already in attendance at the party. A white man, who was not a student, then jumped in front of the woman and a fight ensued. After the fight was broken up, the woman told both the white man and five black youths to leave the party. Once outside, the black students were involved in another fight with a group of white men, who also were not students.  Police were then called to investigate. Several months later, Justin Sloan, a white male, was charged with battery for his role in the fight and was put on probation. Bailey later stated that one of the white men had broken a beer bottle over his head, though there are no official records of medical treatment being given.” 

Fight #2: On Saturday, December 2, 2006, an incident apparently stemming from the Fair Barn fight the day before occurred at a local convenience store. A white student who had attended the party encountered Bailey and several friends. Reports from the involved parties are conflicting, but indicate that an argument occurred, the white student produced a pistol grip shotgun from his pickup truck, and that the gun was ultimately taken away from him by Bailey and his friends.  Local police reported that the accounts of the white student and black students contradicted each other and formed a report based on testimony taken from eyewitnesses. The white student testified that Bailey and his friends shouted and ran after him, that he ran to get his gun, and that the students wrestled it away from him. According to the black students, as they left the convenience store, they were confronted by the white student with a shotgun. They then claimed to have wrestled the gun away from him and fled the scene. The incident resulted in Bailey being charged with three counts: theft of a firearm, second-degree robbery, and disturbing the peace. The white student who produced the weapon was not charged.

I don’t know any other details of the shotgun case - why wasn’t the white kid charged with something?  We would need to view police reports to see I suppose.  Maybe not prosecuting him was racist… I don’t know, and apparently, NEITHER DOES THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE!  Maybe he should put some investigative effort there?

cont…

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By rage, September 21, 2007 at 1:02 pm #
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“Why is this interesting? Because black America is increasingly complicated and diverse, riven by fault lines that didn’t exist back when the great civil rights heroes were marching in Selma.”

That’s debatable. Granted, African America, no more so than any other ethnic sector of America, is extremely complicated and hugely diverse. I don’t agree, however, that the fault lines that drive us today did not exist during Selma’s day. I contend that these anxious social, economic, and ethnic fault lines most definitely did exist, achknowledged and reported or not.

I also don’t agree that we are bound to Jena by hate. We are bound to Jena for the continued pursuit of social justice. America marched, fought, sat-in, rioted, and protested in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s for the tiny strides of precious justice that we view as being slowly taken away today. African Americans endure the draconian brunt of the legal system more often than any other ethnic group. That six African American male adolescents were charged as adults for attempted murder for what was in essence a schoolyard fight bears out the frustration of the African American community with the uneven application of law and order by the American Legal System. Why is that an ethnic group that nationally makes up less than 12 percent of the total population conveniently represents more than 80 percent of its prison population?

Everyone wants to pretend that black America is picking on Jena, a nondescript white town in the American south. The reality is that the predicament of Jena is representative of the increasing inequities of the American Legal System across the board NATIONALLY, not just in a tiny hamlet in Louisana. The draconian punishment for this particular schoolyard fight more than exemplifies the pandemic ailments of legal bigotry regularly experienced by the few at the hands of a bigoted many. Had six white children assailed one black child, there is no way in hell the six assailents would have been tried as adults for attempted murder. Had six black children posted threatening racist gang graffitti on the walls and pavement near the ‘white’ tree from whence the white children hung three nooses, the six balck children would have been tried and convicted of hate crimes and gang activity, as well as expelled from the high school.

I don’t advocate after-school beat-downs. However, I can appreciate the frustration these six students must have experienced over the volatile days that lead to this eruption. Those kids had seen and endured enough, seemingly with no other recourse or resolution. The ‘white’ tree. Having to take a shot gun away from a white kid who threatened to kill them. The constant taunting. The authorities siding with the white kids who victimized and offended them. That we have actually returned to that racist vomit of having six black kids victimized for wanting to enjoy the shade of the ‘white’ tree is far more than just telling. The truth is America has been globally embarrassed to have to admit that our human and civil rights strides have all been hugely very deliberately regressive, particularly during this Presidential administration, denoting that Jena is not the only hot spot.

That notwithstanding, in the name of justice, the punishment must reasonably fit the crime. To jail these six black kids as adults is unreasonable, unfair, and unjust. Furthermore, it would never be done to six white kids under the same circumstances. Jena knows that, and so does the rest of the world.

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By hackerguitar, September 21, 2007 at 1:00 pm #

It occurs to me that the noose was as grave - or perhaps even more so - than the beating dealt out by the black students.  The beating was wrong, without question - I don’t sanction violence.  However, it was an assault.  Measure that against the implications of hangman’s nooses - racism, the quiet threat of force to maintain social structures, the (usually) chilling effect on speech - and it’s pretty clear that the nooses were a hate crime.  And they were treated as a prank….

In general, in the US, hate crimes are dealt with pretty harshly, as they’re serious not because they exact an immediate effect on a citizen but because they undermine the fabric of trust between citizens.  We are all American citizens, and that needs to be foremost in our minds.  Doesn’t matter where your ancestors are from…if you’re a citizen, you’re entitled to the full rights and responsibilities of citizenry.  And with that should (ideally) come a willingness to understand that we (well, working Americans of all colors/ethnicities/whatever) are all in this together.  If we allow ourselves to be separated into rival groups like squalling children, it does nothing but allow the rich and powerful to prey on us. 

So I’d have preferred to see the nooses dealt with appropriately…which probably would have included expulsion, perhaps prosecution.  Would it have been harsh? Yes.  Would it have made faith with the idea that Americans don’t (or at any rate, shouldn’t) tolerate that kind of behavior?  Yes.

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By JP, September 21, 2007 at 12:11 pm #
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Mr. Robinson, you leave out the fact that the principal recommended expulsion for the teens who hung the nooses, and you leave out the fact that charges were being dropped and/or reduced before the mass protest.  Your analogy of the fights seems to be a false one.  It appears that the earlier fights were of the kind that we all witnessed during high school.  That perpetrated by “the Jena 6” was atypical in that 6 boys ganged up on 1 and continued beating and kicking him after he went unconscious.  Let’s be fair and honest here, because doing otherwise will only exacerbate the racial tension that does exist in this country—racism that goes both ways. 

I can’t help but feel that the recent mass protest in Jena will do nothing but amplify racism on all sides.  I think that the actions of Al Sharpton et al and those who congregated on Jena are more about misinformation than honesty, and will serve to further divide this nation.

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By Nancy Hatfield, September 21, 2007 at 11:51 am #
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It should also be noted that Amy Goodman of Democracy Now (Pacifica Radio) has been talking about this case for many, many months now as well.  That’s where I first hear about it and wrote letters to the D.A. and Mayor of Jena’s office chastising them for their attempted murder charges against the black students, while only expelling the white students for their own beatings against the black students prior to the nooses hanging from the “tree of knowledge”, as it was called.

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By still confused, September 21, 2007 at 11:15 am #
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shut up verne

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By Verne Arnold, September 21, 2007 at 10:49 am #

To all of you,
It was a hangman’s noose…get it?  No?  Then you suffer the racism of the masses.  A hangman’s noose treated as a prank?  A hangman’s noose is a very powerful symbol…of the KKK.  Do you get it?  No?  Then you will suffer for your inexcusable naiveté and never will this racial issue go away from our supposed evolution into a meaningful society.  A meaningful society of equals…not a plunge into divisive, politicized, stratified, social structure.  This issue goes far beyond the immediacy of the “story” and speaks directly to what this administration is doing to us.  Wake up…Paul Revere is riding through the “streets” of the internet and blogs giving you this opportunity…don’t blow it…it might be your last chance!!!!!

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By Richard Santoro, September 21, 2007 at 10:29 am #
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The racism from the whites kids was bad…  the response from the black kids was illegal (perhaps a misdemeanor)...  The response from the authorities was unconstitutional, unamerican and worthy of felony charges at the federal level.

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By Grousefeather, September 21, 2007 at 9:59 am #
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Martin Luther King Jr. would never have condoned violence, so could someone please explain to me why violence is being justified and it’s effects minimized in this case?

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By riya, September 21, 2007 at 8:46 am #

My father ruined me, or enlightened me, back in 1963. I was a little kid and he was a vet, a smart Navy guy back from Korea, and he was going to San Diego State, and he became a high school teacher, of history and American Civ and in the 70’s, ecology.

But that day he showed me a picture in a book of an actual hanging of a black man.  He said “this is happening, now, in our country.”  He showed me photos of the drinking faucets in the south that the black kids had to use.  The separate bathrooms for ‘negroes’. 

I’m just a white chick hiding out in my little mountain home.  I have an aversion for cities, and too many people hogging up one little splice of land, because therin erups violence ... But I thoroughly believe this insanity is still happening, I have seen it in my Forest.  I have seen it, the disregard and fear of people of another color. I have heard my coworkers hoping that the likes of Blackwater can just come home from Iraq and kill the annoying humans at the border, in the wildeylands, I have heard this hope.  I have heard of young boys in San Diego county beat old hispanic immigrant men to
to death in the canyons. 

So good, make noise and march.  Make noise and march.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, September 21, 2007 at 7:11 am #

Failed leadership.

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By farmertx, September 21, 2007 at 6:01 am #

The Jena 6 suffered from judicial overkill, no doubt.
But, at the same time, 6 boys jumping 1 boy does not seem to be an issue of boys will be boys.
As the victim was able to attend a school function the night of the attack, it doesn’t seem that he was injured enough for felony charges to have been filed.
The placing of a noose in the tree was a dumb childish prank.
I know that the noose is a hated reminder of a much worse time in the South for all blacks.
But the Black students would have been better served had they put some white sheets in the nooses, rather than resort to ganging up on one student.
That was overkill on their part, but it sure didn’t warrent the judicial response that followed.
Racial issues, especially in the South, have improved somewhat and they still have a long ways to go. This is very true in the smaller towns.
Here in Van Zandt County (East Texas) the wedding announcements in the paper several months ago featured a photo of a young Black male and White female who were getting married.
It caused many raised eyebrows and lots of head shaking. But no assaults, threats or other acts of hatred towards the couple. That’s progress. A small step in one sense, but a giant leap from what would have happened if that photo was published 30 years ago. Heck, 30 years ago, no local paper would have considered publishing such a photo, nor item for that matter.
It’s going to take a long time for all racist acts to disappear.And they can’t be swept under the rug and ignored.
But to meet an implied threat (noose) with actual violence wasn’t the right way to have confronted the problem.
Now the tree is gone. And many White students will resent that, just as many Black students will be happy that it is gone.
I don’t see parents on either side being all that conciliatory and that is what all the students need; a family to show them a better way.

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By thomas billis, September 21, 2007 at 2:07 am #
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Mr Robinson as involved as the black radio personalities were do not forget the thousands of bloggers who circulated petitions and donated money.The only thing that rubs me wrong in these situations is that all leg work was done by really concerned Americans and the hustling duo of Sharpton and Jackson swoop in a will be given all the credit.Not that credit is bad but it will give these two hustlers more power and I think the black community can do better on the leadership.

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