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Posted on Sep 6, 2007

By E.J. Dionne

WASHINGTON—Fred Thompson, who proposes to be what Republicans need to overcome their malaise, may himself be part of the problem.

    And the problem is that conservatism as a philosophy no longer produces ready-made answers to the quandaries that face the country or the voters. Republicans do not need to debate who is conservative enough. They need to argue about what conservatism is.

    The candidate who stands to make the most of that opportunity now is former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, not Thompson—and Thompson’s decision to run has made Giuliani’s life easier.

    By referring in his online announcement speech this week to the glory days of the 1994 Republican landslide, Thompson suggested that he hopes to sweep through the primaries with bows to a heroic past and calls to keep the old faith alive.

    But his rivals were already moving past him at the New Hampshire debate on Wednesday that Thompson skipped. The substantive exchange, broadcast on Fox News, made clear that the Republican Party, from its leadership to its base, is divided on many of the hardest issues. All the candidates spoke in the name of conservatism while moving in sharply different directions. They split on immigration, on Iraq, on abortion, on the meaning of “family values” and on how firmly they were willing to commit to tax cuts.

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    Thompson is joining the fray when rank-and-file Republicans are demanding increasing specificity from those seeking their votes. A great smile, a pickup truck and lofty anti-Washington sermons were ideal for 1994. They won’t be enough in this period of conservative redefinition.

    Moreover, with Thompson poised to splinter votes at the right end of the spectrum, Giuliani is increasingly highlighting his role as the more moderate candidate in this batch. There may now be enough relatively middle-of-the-road votes in the Republican primary electorate for Giuliani to sneak past rivals more interested than he is in ideological purity.

    This spells trouble for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who up to now has run the tactically smartest Republican campaign. Thompson waited long enough to let Romney get off the ground, but not so long that he allowed Romney to unite the Republican right against Giuliani. “The longer this race goes on without a consensus conservative candidacy developing,” said Tony Fabrizio, a neutral Republican pollster, “the more comfortable Rudy Giuliani is.” Thompson and Romney now threaten each other.

    And by speaking warmly of John McCain, Giuliani is already laying the groundwork for picking up the Arizona senator’s supporters should his rival falter early. McCain’s backers tend not to be fire-breathing conservatives, and McCain and Giuliani were rather harmonious in their positions Wednesday on taxes and immigration.

    Gone was Giuliani’s hesitancy about his comparative social liberalism. When Romney went after Giuliani for allegedly welcoming illegal immigrants in New York City, Giuliani did not back down. He defended himself by saying that as mayor, he put practicality—“sensible policies”—over ideology. Because he couldn’t solve the problem of illegal immigrants, Giuliani said, his goal was to fight crime and work with the immigrant community to do so.

    And in response to a pointed question about his messy family life, Giuliani echoed arguments once made by Bill Clinton’s supporters, that “any issues in my private life do not affect my public performance.” He won applause for that.

    What strikes Fabrizio, who completed a detailed study of the Republican Party earlier this summer, is that Giuliani is winning a fifth of the voters even in the socially conservative group the pollster labels “moralists.” And when Republicans as a whole are asked if the party had “spent too much time focusing on moral issues such as abortion and gay marriage and should instead be spending time focusing on economic issues such as taxes and government spending,” 53 percent said yes—a significant constituency for Giuliani to draw upon.

    Republicans, says Fabrizio, who conducted a similar study a decade ago, are more conservative than ever but in ways more complicated than many appreciate.

    That will make Thompson’s effort to become the Man for All Conservatives much more difficult. And Mickey Edwards, a former Republican congressman whose book “Reclaiming Conservatism” will be published next spring, says that providing the backdrop for the contest is a conservative “awakening that we completely lost our way.”

    This means that making conservatives feel good will not be enough for Fred Thompson. He needs to show where he will lead a movement shrewd enough to know that it is now in the wilderness.

    E.J. Dionne’s e-mail address is postchat(at)aol.com.   

    © 2007, Washington Post Writers Group


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By smartlady, September 12, 2007 at 10:49 am #
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The rabid right wingers will elect Thompson.

Will celebrity awed Americans vote for him or for what is best for our messed up country?

I fear for my country.  I don’t think we can exist with another Republican in the White House.

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By lodipete, September 10, 2007 at 11:54 am #

How come there’s no articles on the Dumbocrat debate in Spanish? Doesn’t Truthdig want it’s loyal readers to know about Kucinich’s plan to make Spanish a “second national language”? Or how the rest of this crowd feels about things like the 1st Amendment or the Constitution in general? Elections? Plebiscites? What the hell are they? I can see that my presidential vote in 2008 will be a write in for Moe the Bartender.

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By Jim Goodson, September 9, 2007 at 11:10 am #
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This so called news Media,. Why should I listen to their blather? They are not asking the hard questions anymore because they may upset the profiteers upstairs. Reporting or kissing ass? The corporate media CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS,FOX, are they just another branch of a corrupt government?

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By boggs, September 9, 2007 at 11:05 am #

Compare the ideology of this bunch of republicans with that of the Nazi ideology and you get new-nazis.
They want full powers over the globe.
They intend to get it at any price.
What this bunch have in mind makes the Holocaust seem less relevant.
Their own holocaust is taking place in New Orleans, Sudan and Darfur, Iraq and Lebanon and they have visions of Syria and Iran being the next victims of our almighty power. Sanctioned by the Corporations of the world.

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By Conservative Yankee, September 9, 2007 at 9:30 am #
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#99223 by Pablo on 9/07 at 4:53 pm

“When politics crosses into acts of immorality”

I read this two hours ago, and I’m still laughing!!!

When does the writer think this happened?  The answer is during the administration of John Adams who was neither a Republican nor Democrat. 

Those waiting for politics to “cross back” are IMHO waiting for a train where there are no tracks….

The candidates (all of them) will spend over a billion bucks attempting to become president.  If these people had invested the 800 million they spent in 2000 in Mobil oil stock they would now have 2 Billion dollars plus interest. So the question becomes “what do they get for their money?” anoone who believes the anser to be “The honor of being the president.” is living in Wonderland!

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By jerryd, September 8, 2007 at 5:11 pm #
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ocjim says the Republican “has the connotation of mean-spiritedness, owned by big business, spokesman for the military-industrial complex, chicken-hawks, big military spenders, burden on our children, tax cuts for the rich, total lack of empathy for the people.”

When I look at the history of the Republican Party from the post Civil War period to the Depression of 1929 an from Nixon forward, I don’t see much difference. 

And for the short period when those rapacious appetites were held in some check, we got unions that became equally rapacious.  We went through a period where people were misled into believing that government programs were funded by found money.

So far I haven’t seen anyone who can figure out how to give me the most freedom possible and still make me sit up and take notice when my pursuit of personal freedom is impinging on my neighbor’s.

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By THOMAS BILLIS, September 8, 2007 at 3:27 pm #
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If the Republicans want to remember the pseudo fabulous days of the Reagan era they should dis inter him and run him again.What would be the difference?The ones who are running now are dead from the neck up anyway.

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By felicity, September 8, 2007 at 12:27 pm #

#99144

The Republican mantra around lowering taxes is in direct opposition to their mantra as the party ‘good’ at war and willing to wage one, at the drop of a hat, to protect us. Income taxes, in fact most taxes throughout history have been imposed on a populace to pay for wars.

Hopefully, Republicans will get back to what seems to resonate positively with their followers, lowering taxes, and Democrats, hopefully, will challenge them on how they intend to fund the wars which they’re so ‘good’ at, and so willing to wage in the name of protecting us.  The money’s got to come from somewhere, and the American people deserve to know from where if not from taxes.

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By Jim Goodson, September 8, 2007 at 8:41 am #
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Fred Thompson, Bush,s alter ego. What a waste?.

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By Inherit The Wind, September 8, 2007 at 7:10 am #
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I’m not sure where I’m going with this.

Fred Thompson first made his name on the Watergate Committee where he was Sam Dash’s GOP counterpart, advising Howard Baker as Dash advised Sam Ervin.  He earned the respect and friendship of Dash (who was substantially over and passed away in his 90’s).

Then he became an actor using the name of Fred Dalton Thompson and put in some awesome performances…ones that showed JUST how bad an actor Ronald Reagan was.

As a Senator from Tennessee, Thompson was intelligent, not quite a stay-in-line conservative, and one of the very few Republicans who split his vote on the Clinton impeachment, voting “Not Guilty” on one of the two counts (I don’t believe ANY Re-thug voted NG on both trumped-up, absurd charges).  So he was willing to go his own way.

But Thompson also had the reputation for being lazy and a poor attendant as Senator.  He liked the power and fame, but didn’t like the actual grinding hard work it takes to be a senator.  And that SERIOUSLY bothers me.

We’ve had two incredibly lazy presidents in my lifetime—Ronald Reagan and the current President Disaster.  Both were intellectually lazy as well as physically lazy about the job (Bush is far worse that way than RR…RR may have worked an 8 hour day, but he didn’t spend 40% of his time on vacation.)

I, unfortunately, think Thompson’s on nothing but an ego trip.  Every presidential candidate is on an ego trip—you spend years setting up and positioning your run, then two years on the run itself, so it HAS to be about ego.

But it can’t only be an ego trip—or you get George W. Bush—the real life Wesley Mouch.

But anything that fractures the Republicans and keeps them in disarray is a Good Thing! They have done more to F*** up this country and the world since they first got the Senate in 1980 than all the Democratic liberal spending programs put together.  We’ve gone from respected to ridiculed and feared in the world.  GET ‘EM OUTTA THERE!

But while the Re-thuglicans have no hearts and no brains, the Demo-wimps have no balls or backbone.  Except Bill Clinton.

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By DennisD, September 7, 2007 at 9:58 pm #
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Just what the country needs - another pretender with a SAG card in the Outhouse. The Return of Ronbo PartI. We are the laughingstock of the world if anyone still cares.

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By Pablo, September 7, 2007 at 8:53 pm #

To be a republican in this proto-fasc..er, proto-authortarian (I dare not say the ‘F’ word) state means that one supports or rationalizes evil:

Secret Detentions
Torture
Extrodinary Rendition
Dissent equals Treason
Unitary Executive
Curtailment of haebeus-corpus
Illegal war
Domestic spying
Media control

It’s amazing that these people can get a good nights sleep… When politics crosses into acts of immorality a duty is imposed on each citizen to make the correct moral choice.
Much like those after the liberation of Paris who had collaborated with the Vichy regime.
Thus EJ Dionne has got it wrong: Republicans need not argue what conservatism is, they need to confront that evil which they continue to support.

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By PatrickHenry, September 7, 2007 at 8:10 pm #

I noticed the article failed to mention Ron Paul, who by Fox’s own polls won the debate.

Dr. Paul is likely the only Republican candidate whom the mainstream democrats and independents will vote for, if he wins the Republican nomination and Kucinich does not win the Democratic nomination.

I guess the RNC knows this so they enlisted a familiar face, the lazy old senator from Tennessee in an attempt to get those armchair republican voters who believe that everything they see on TV is true.

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By ocjim, September 7, 2007 at 4:43 pm #

More than ever before Republican has come to characterize all of the negatives of the Bush administration and the neo-conservatives. Rightly or wrongly, it has the connotation of mean-spiritedness, owned by big business, spokesman for the military-industrial complex, chicken-hawks, big military spenders, burden on our children, tax cuts for the rich, total lack of empathy for the people.

To me Fred represents all these features and then some.

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By boggs, September 7, 2007 at 3:38 pm #

To the ordinary republican, conservatism is, “how can we plunder the treasury and make the working poor think they’re getting a good deal?”

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By mackTN, September 7, 2007 at 1:48 pm #

So there was big bear Thompson on FauxNews last night saying absolutely nothing to an adoring Sean Hannity.

Hannity:  What are your issues, Mr. Thompson.

Thompson:  Well, this country better wake up and realize that there are people in this country right now who want to hurt us and we have to fight back.  We have to get control of this situation.  We have to be strong and not speak with a divided voice.  They are here right now, planning to take all of us out.  The Democrats are taking us the wrong way. They want to put health care in the hands of the government and raise taxes and leave Iraq, which means, you know, that Iran will blow us up when it develops is bomb, which is imminent.  We can’t abide that, this is serious. 

Hannity:  Thank you, Mr Thompson.  It is so refreshing to hear someone defend the U.S. these days instead of tearing it and our soldiers apart.

Thompson:  Well, thank you, son.  We just got to get back to a TRUE AMERICA, and that’s what I intend to do.

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By farmertx, September 7, 2007 at 1:37 pm #

I find it odd that all Republican’s want less taxes, yet none have a word to say about the fraud and waste that permeates Washington.
How any politician, in the face of constantly rising prices of everything can demand that Government be able to get by on less money is unreal.
Yet many ‘conservatives’ seem to think that is possible, while expecting to be paid more each year.
The call for a flat tax rate or a National Sales Tax fall on deaf ears.
The current Tax Code is so full of loopholes and special exemptions placed there by special interest groups that it all but defies understanding.

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By don knutsen, September 7, 2007 at 12:11 pm #
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Fred Thompson is nothing but another huckster , in the mold of another former B actor we are still suffering the fallout from eulogized by the GOP as saint Reagan. He has no new ideas, has steadfastly supported this miserable administration and would continue the same lunacy himself. You’d think he would be clever enough to distance himself from Bush in his own self interest. But, like Guiliani and McCain, he will milk all he can from a still uninformed population. He dosen’t care about our nation, he cares about his own career and how it can benifit Fred Thompson. The republican party, ever since Reagan, has proudly elevated base selfishness as a virtue. Look at all of their candidates..of the lot of them only Ron Paul seems to grasp where this is taking us and their party.

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By G.Anderson, September 7, 2007 at 10:37 am #

No longer do I look on in disbelief and amazement when Republicans select some monstrocity so clearly out of touch with reality, whose clear vision of moral values dates from the 19th century.

Because this seems to be exactly what the right in this country wants as leadership.

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By KISS, September 7, 2007 at 9:04 am #

Thompson is a dinosaur and has no grasp of the economic malaise the country is in. He is harping the line of the Texas Turd No taxes and we can still pay the bills, little government, with an infrastructure disintegrating, and nothing about Medicare or social security. Big Fred is a big bag of wind. In a slug fest this guy is a cream pie. Never let bluster overshadow complete ignorance.

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By driving bear, September 7, 2007 at 7:32 am #

The Fact that Thompson ranks 2 or 3rd depending on the polls before he entered the race refuted much of what the author has to say. Republicans what to return to policies proclaimed in the 1994 campaign.
If given a choice of a candidate who is conservative in economic matters and one who is conservative in both economic policy and social issues , republicans will choose the latter.
Also some if not most of Rudy supporters , support him because they feel he has the best chance of defeating Hillery Clinton , more than they support his positions.

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