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Posted on Aug 20, 2007
Man walking along Gaza border
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A Palestinian man walks past the border wall in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip. In underground darkness with stifling heat and limited air supply, Gazans are finding an antidote to their growing isolation: digging tunnels under their border with Egypt to smuggle everything from weapons to cigarettes to people.

By Chris Hedges

Gaza has become the Sarajevo of the Middle East. Israel, in an action similar to that of the Serbs in Bosnia, has surrounded and cut off nearly a million and a half Palestinians in the Gaza Strip since the Islamic militant group Hamas took control in June. Electric fences and watch towers manned by Israeli soldiers keep the Palestinians trapped inside the strip. The land and sea blockade, the halting of all but minimal humanitarian aid and the refusal to allow Gaza to receive financial support are crushing Gaza’s industry, farming and infrastructure.

The tactic is clear: Israel and the United States will strangle Gaza by cutting off all money and goods, including fuel and most food, to reduce one of the most densely populated places on the planet to an impoverished ghetto. Hunger and anarchy, they hope, will motivate Gazans to turn on Hamas, and the anarchy will perhaps be used to justify a reoccupation by the Israeli military and see the return of the quisling President Mahmoud Abbas, who was ousted after he led an abortive coup to overthrow the democratically elected Hamas government. He is now in the West Bank.

The Bush administration has, in an effort to bolster the credibility of Abbas, promised to provide his government with $190 million in aid and $80 million in security assistance. And the Israeli prime minister has traveled to Jericho to tout Abbas as a partner for peace.

The effects of the siege are disastrous. Palestinians in Gaza are not allowed to travel abroad. They cannot enter Israel for work. They do not fish off the coast because Israeli gunboats open fire at any vessels that are more than a mile offshore. Gaza has seen 75 percent of its factories closed since June, with the loss of 68,000 jobs, according to the World Bank. There is a 70 percent unemployment rate, and 1.1 million of the 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza depend on U.N. assistance to survive. The boycott has forced the United Nations to suspend $93 million worth of construction projects for homes, schools and sewage treatment in Gaza because cement and other building supplies have run out. These U.N. projects once employed 121,000 people. About 80 percent of the Palestinians in Gaza survive on $2 a day. Basic foodstuffs such as milk powder, baby formula, vegetable oil and medical supplies are running out. Families, unable to get food or find work, are living on little more than tea and bread.

The instability is compounded by the internecine violence among Palestinian factions, gangs, clans, militias and criminals, as well as the Israeli warplanes that bomb refugee camps in an effort to strike at militants and Israeli patrols that make incursions into the strip to round up suspects. It is impossible for nearly all Palestinians to enter or leave Gaza. The only connection the trapped population has with the outside comes through deep tunnels that Palestinians dig across the border into Egypt. These tunnels are used to smuggle goods, weapons and people, as a tunnel under the airport in Sarajevo was during the war in Bosnia.

The looming humanitarian crisis, manufactured and orchestrated by the Israeli government, in violation of international law, is a brutal form of collective punishment. It has, however, the support of the compliant Abbas government. Abbas has ordered all government officials in Gaza, including the police, to refuse to go to work and government offices to shut their doors. Those who do go to work, he says, will no longer receive their salaries. He suspended the Gaza Strip attorney general’s office and, in order to keep money out of the hands of the Hamas government, led by Ismael Haniyah, he told government-run hospitals not to collect fees. Abbas has even threatened not to recognize high school exam results in Gaza because the education system is being administered by what he called an illegitimate government.

On the public relations front, Abbas, knowing what buttons to push in Washington, has linked the Hamas government with al-Qaida and branded its military wing “a terrorist organization.”

“Yes, through Hamas, al-Qaida has entered Gaza and through Hamas, al-Qaida is protected,” he told Italian RAI TV in Rome on July 10.

The decision by Israel and the United States to widen the schism and increase tensions between Hamas and Abbas is a blunder of catastrophic proportions. The hatred for Israel and the United States, which already runs deep among Palestinians, will only grow the longer the siege continues. Abbas, by dancing to the tune of those seen by the Palestinians as the enemy, is becoming a reviled, weak and discredited figure. The schism makes a peace agreement and future cooperation only more elusive. Hamas is an unsavory organization, but as long as it has broad support among the Palestinians, and it does, it is going to have to be included in any eventual settlement if civility and peace are to be restored in Gaza and the West Bank. The ham-fisted attempt to make Hamas go away by meting out draconian punishments on the Palestinians in Gaza will radicalize more Palestinians and see the civil war spill into the West Bank. Despite all the aid Abbas gets, he may soon be battling Hamas militants in Ramallah.

Violence begets violence. Iraq should have taught us that. The road chosen by the Bush administration and the Israeli government is one that failed in Iraq, failed in Lebanon and will fail in the Palestinian territories. It will only increase the chaos, suffering and death. Hamas is not going to vanish because of Israeli repression. Radical organizations, on the contrary, count on this repression to build a militant base and silence the voices of reason within their own societies. These two apocalyptic extremes—represented by Hamas and the Israeli right wing—need each other to further their frightening visions. The Israeli right wing dreams of a broken and compliant Palestinian population living on impoverished reservations surrounded by the Israeli military. Hamas dreams of destroying the Jewish state. Neither dream is based on reality. Neither dream will work. But a lot of people will suffer and die to find this out.

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By cheap cigarettes, June 3 at 3:48 am #

I wonder if this conflict ever ends? The worst thing is that new generations are born and begin their conscious life in war. This generation even couldn’t imagine the life without fighting… awful.

signature: “I like to drink coffee and smoking cigarettes before bed. I dream faster.” (c) Steven Wright: Coffee and cigarettes

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By cann4ing, September 10, 2007 at 6:34 pm #

For those interested, I would strongly recommend watching Amy Goodman’s extended interview of President Carter which covers this issue in depth.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/10/1518224

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 4:26 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so disgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and developed its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a publisher in
the U.S.They ended-up publishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 4:18 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so disgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 4:05 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so disgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 3:05 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets ustly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Peter RV, August 30, 2007 at 2:51 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

Ref. #97698 by Nabih Ammary on 8/30 at 11:08
Thanks.
Except Hersh’s Samson Option I’ve read all those books, but I dont base my conclusions and opinion on them. I have memory and I observe.
I’ve been observing incredible sufferings of Palestinians, Lebanese and Iraqis, along with the equally incredible hypocrisy of the West and Jews in particular.
The Justice is completely on the side of Arab peoples and their struggle for liberation is nothing short of heroic.
And- I’ll stay with the Justice.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 2:43 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and developed its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lengthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearshheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a publisher in
the U.S.They ended-up publishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)"Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel’s apologists in the United States
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.some of the Zionists/Israel
apologists

called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had done for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypt.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyptian President to
stay and stick withhim for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insane and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 11:08 am #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and developed its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lengthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearshheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a publisher in
the U.S.They ended-up publishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)"Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel’s apologists in the United States
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.some of the Zionists/Israel
apologists

called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had done for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Peter RV, August 30, 2007 at 10:42 am #
(Unregistered commenter)

Ref.#67658 by Robert on 8/30 at 6.o5 am.
I may try again to register ( I did that at least five times - twice they even accepted it ) although the names like Kaufman and Spector do not bode well for my application.It may very well be I am too irritating to them but I’ll wear my opinion on my sleeves, and this, whether anybody likes it or not.
It just happens that my opinion coincides with the truth about what is happening in the ME and I would consider the basest cowardice from my part, to restrain myself from proclaiming it.
P.S. There is nothing unusual in finding that some people solicit honest opinions in order to suppress them. The NYT has practiced that for ages.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 10:15 am #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attemts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 10:00 am #
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets ustly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attemts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)"By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)"They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)"Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)"The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)"Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Robert, August 30, 2007 at 6:05 am #

Comment #97569 by Peter RV on 8/29

Peter...that is really strange about not being able or aloud to register on truthdig. This is really odd.

One wonders why and who is behind it? What are their reasons and/or motives? I believe the same happened to a commenter “Federer”; he was not allowed to register.

Could the reason(s) be for your criticism of zionism and Israel’s IDF brutal killing of Palestinians!

I think that you should e-mail the following truthdig publishers:

Zaude Kaufman and Karen Spector.

Here are their e-mail addresses:

zkaufman at truthdig dot com

kspector at truthdig dot com

Writeand e-mail them. Tell them what is going on and ask why are you blocked from registering at truthdig?

All commenters who are having problems should writethe above truthdig staffers and convey your concerns/problems.

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By Peter RV, August 30, 2007 at 5:18 am #
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I meant to say Tony (Wicher), instead of ‘Tom’.Sorry

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By Peter RV, August 29, 2007 at 3:07 pm #
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Ref.#97503 by Robert.
Thanks.
Lately, oddly enough, my postings are coming through, although, again I wasn’t permitted to register. Tom is registred but that doesn’t seem to help him very much. What on earth is going on?

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By Robert, August 29, 2007 at 10:39 am #

Comment #97295 by PeterRV on 8/28

Peter...Great comment! At least you are not blocked from posting on this forum.

Are you blocked from registering on truthdig?

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By Tony Wicher, August 29, 2007 at 9:06 am #

All right, where is my last post?

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By PatrickHenry, August 29, 2007 at 3:14 am #

Anytime a government comes in and “takes” one’s property its unjust. 

I could care less about the jewish faith, however I do care about the Israeli manipulation of our government, foreign policy and our elected representives through their “sayanim” and unregistered and unmonitored lobbies.

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By GodSend, August 28, 2007 at 8:45 pm #

Peter RV:

Notice how driving bear’s language resembles a robot speaking. There is no recognizable human emotion. It’s ‘Palestine’, not any reference to human beings whatsoever or mention of the long history of their persecution and murdering by Israelis. Now you know what I meant by ‘heart of stone’! Zionists and hate-filled Jews think of Palestinians and goyim like cockroaches - vermin to be exterminated - and that’s what they have been doing and are still doing for many years. They need to be stopped! Yahweh will stop them - if humanity doesn’t.

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By driving bear, August 28, 2007 at 8:22 pm #

Peter RV

I’m glad you read the works of my hero Ms. Golda
First off there has never been a nation of Palestine.
In Fact the land in question was referred to as the “Southern civil district of Syria “ prior to 1917
and the English taking it from Turkey in WWI.
As for Egypt most egyptians faced the truth about Israel and the Camp David treaty has held for almost 30 years. True Egypt has a few bad apples like Bin laden’s #2 man, But Egypt keeps them under control.

Peter RV your antisemitism has blinded you to the truth , I will pray for your “sight “ to return

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By GodSend, August 28, 2007 at 5:09 pm #

Don’t bother, Peter RV - Zionists and some Jews have hearts of stone! They are waiting for Yahweh Yahushua to turn them into hearts of flesh.

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By Peter RV, August 28, 2007 at 9:49 am #
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Ref. #96938 by Driving Bear.
The gems of your arguments, ‘since nobody will say it I will’ or ‘so called Palestinians’, or ‘ Egypt realized Israel is here to stay’or further ‘wiping Israel off the map’, must be definitely product of your drunken Driving.
First, you have said everything you had to say, and repeated thousands of times all over again, about defence of Israel’s abominable behaviour towards a defenseless Palestinian (’so called’) People.
( This ‘so called’ comes straight from the dictionary of Golda Meyer, the Israeli PM who publicly denied existance of the Palestinian People- serves also as evidence that our Bear is of Israeli origin. No American Jew denies anylonger Palestinians exist)
What makes- you fool-believe that anybody listens to you after a carnage of sixty years,you have inflicted on a people whose only fault was their refusal to accept being Israel’s slaves? Are you so drenched in your Goebbelsian doctrine that your lie thousand times repeated, must become an accepted truth? Besides ,can’t you see, you have repeated it already milion times, and it doesn’t stick- you Jewish fools!
Herr Goebbels could have told you that all lies had expiring dates, after which they can only produce a blowback. Hitler’s, bearly lasted only some twelve years.
Egypt realized Israel is there to stay, could be believable if ‘Egypt’ were some man or woman ( perhaps jewish) expressing his/her irrelevant opinion.Do you really believe this is the opinion of Egyptian People? Would you be surprised if one of these days Moubarak and his corruptella on CIA pay roll, end up as Shah of Iran?
Israel is here to stay? is becoming more and more a doubtfull proposition if Israel continues to strive to exterminate Palestinian People.
Trying blindly to do that Israel might very well wipe itself, not only out of the famous ‘map’ but also out of existance.

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By GodSend, August 26, 2007 at 8:41 am #

Notice how the erratically driving bear (Christian? - hah!) is full of Jesus-like compassion for the poor, suffering and genocided Palestinians in Gaza (reminds one of the Warsaw Ghetto, doesn’t it!)? That’s a Zionist Devil-worshiper (or maybe hate-filled Jew) speaking with a forked tongue.

No need to worry about anyone ‘wiping Israel off the map’ - Yahweh has already promised to ‘just do it’! (if you consider MELTING equivalent to ‘wiping off’. wink

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By driving bear, August 25, 2007 at 8:11 pm #

Since nobody else will say it I will. The suffering of the so called palestinians in Gaza is in fact a blessing in disguise and is absolutely vital to any hope to a peace process. How you might ask look at history in specific the Egypt/Israel peace accord of the late 70’s. How was this achieved : Only after both the 67 and 73 war. After these wars Egypt realized that Israel was here to stay and they ( Egypt and the Arab nation ) could not destroy it by force. Therefore Egypt realized it’s best and only hope was at the peace table. Hamas whi controls Gaza still holds to the dream of wiping Israel off the map and establishing a Palesteinain state from the Jordan River to the Med Sea. This is not Going to happen and the Suffering of the Palesteinain people will God willing make them realize this FACT.
Then uand only then will the “peace process” have a snowball’s chance in hell of working.

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By GodSend, August 25, 2007 at 3:40 pm #

Peter RV:

‘Follower of Christ’ is more accurate than ‘religious fanatic’ smile If you prefer something shorter in the vernacular, ‘Jesus freak’ is OK, too! wink

It helps to be precise! smile

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By GodSend, August 25, 2007 at 3:25 pm #

Farewell to TW:

smile

PS Try not to overdo the ‘hate’ thing - it’s bad for your health! wink

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By PatrickHenry, August 25, 2007 at 2:29 pm #

You sew what you reap.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

The US has turned a corner in the past 30 years were our humanitarian outreach to the lesser countries of the world has turned into a forced hand.

No wonder we have the present administration.

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By Tony Wicher, August 25, 2007 at 12:40 pm #

Re #96878 by Peter RV on 8/25 at 12:12 pm

I have only so much tolerance for intellectual garbage. That point has been reached. Perhaps in a few days or weeks the level of pollution and disgust in my brain will subside and I will be ready to wade back into the sewer again. Good luck.

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By Peter RV, August 25, 2007 at 12:12 pm #
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Ref.#96855

I can’t understand your irritation over Godsend’s postings, or, over any other for that matter.
When there are irreconsiliable points, parties should express their opinions and that is that.
I have abandoned, long time ago, the idea that any discussion had to lead to an agreement.The goal is, as far as I am concerned, to state honestly and as clearly as possible, one’s opinion and to let anybody fume about it, as much as he wants. Otherwise, a discussion forum becomes phony, giving ‘balanced’ answer to any question, sort of political peddling of falsehoods.
So, what does it matter if anybody disagrees with you, if you are satisfied that you have offered a sincere opinion? (Besides, an opinion which one rejects, sometimes makes one think)
I don’t think you should abandon arguing just because a religious fanatic has crossed you path.

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By Tony Wicher, August 25, 2007 at 10:43 am #

#96429 by GodSend on 8/22 at 2:39 pm

“TW:

When there is Divine intervention, do not complain. Most likely God protected you from having your inane comments sliced-and-diced unmercifully by the sword of the Word! 

Count your blessings and move on! “

Dogshit,

God, if there is one, knows I hate you, your religion and your emoticon as much as IHW does.  But you are probably right about this. I won’t waste any more time here.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 25, 2007 at 10:10 am #
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Any Blogger or any other person cares to comrehend
the real situation in the Palestinian land of Gaza
and West Bank and what has been happening to the
Palestinian people on the hands of the Israeli Army
and the hands of the fanatical Israeli Settlers should read the detailed writing of Rachell Marshall
who writes in the outstanding and specialized magazine called “Washington Report On Middle East
Affairs”,published by American Trust.The following
information may help in contacting the magazine:

For subscriptions,sample copies and donations:
Washington Report On Middle East Affairs
P.O.Box 1686
Williamsport,PA 17703-1686
Phone:(570)320-2073 or (800)219-1187
Fax:(570)322-2063
E-mail: circulation at wrmea dot com

The magazine is non-profit.It depends on the income
it generates from the subscription fees(29 dollar
per year) and on donations and on selling excellent
books on the Middle East.

I have been a subscriberto the magazine for the last
twenty years and I highly recommend it.You need not take my word for it.Check it out in your local
library.If your local library deos not have it then
contact the magazine for a free sample copy.

And I have been following the writing of Rachelle
Marshall since she started writing in the Washington
Report many years ago I cannot even remember exactly
when.Her writing about the suffering of the Real
Palestinian Natives,The Real Owners of Palestine is
not just excellent.It is outstanding.Read her writing and find out for yourself.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 25, 2007 at 12:03 am #

96715 by omop on 8/24 at 12:20 pm: “...Its 2048 and the Palestenian with the help of Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and others have taken control over all of Israel....”

Agreed likely outcome, ‘omop’, and they deserve it. But if Bush or his Israeli buddies invade/attack Iran, Russia will not wait to “wipe Israel off the map”! After all, its their nuclear reactor which will be attacked at Bushehr in Iran!

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By omop, August 24, 2007 at 12:20 pm #

Its 2048 and the Palestenian with the help of Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and others have taken control over all of Israel.

israelis and Palestenians have exchanged status and now all the israelis have been moved into Gaza and parts of the West Bank. The fence that was built by the Israelis in the years of 2000-2010 still separates the Israelis from the Palestenians except that each side on the other side of the fence.

Should the Palestenians do to the Israelis in Gaza and the West Bank what the israelis have done to them in the years starting in 1948?

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By GodSend, August 24, 2007 at 8:30 am #

driving bear:

Your unjustified slander brands you as a ZioChristian and Neocon (Zionist)! (same tactics).

You have not presented any FACTS worth commenting on!

Your lame comments about the 70AD burning of the Jerusalem temple as fulfillment of the Ezekiel prophecy indicate wishful (Zionist) thinking. Yahweh said (Ezekiel) “I will leave them there and MELT them”. He said ‘them’, NOT ‘the temple in Jerusalem’ or Jerusalem. It is a MELTING of the Zionist Israelis - people, not gold! It says MELT, not burn! If He meant burn, He would have said burn. When you assemble the various metals He mentions in a furnace, you then apply intense heat - not just setting them on fire. Not only that, prophecy can be fulfilled more than once. “The Word of God is living and powerful” - it applies yesterday, today AND tomorrow! Many of us will SEE! the great melting of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ - hopefully from a safe distance! smile

What is your position on Zionism and Bush and the ZioChristians and 9/11 and the Israeli ‘crimes against Palestinians and humanity’ (not to mention their devilish deception and countless other crimes), huh?! We all know what it is - you already let the cat out of the bag (or the bear out of the cave) wink You are most likely a fake ‘Christian’ like Bush, Hagee, Osteen, Schuler and millions of others! You, an apostle like Paul and Peter?! Add blasphemy to your deceptions. Be careful what you say - or Yahweh may send you to Israel to participate in the great MELTING! wink

Your ‘official’ 9/11 position is the nail in your coffin - you are either a deceptive Zionist outright or a ZioChristian ‘Trojan Horse’ - and most definitely a Zionist shill, planted here to try and deceive folks. It didn’t work! Go back to your ZioChristian or Zionist masters for better instructions! wink

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By Peter RV, August 24, 2007 at 5:05 am #
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Ref.#96641 by Rabid Rabbis from Izrael.

Your comments to the postings are spirited, as these indeed seem to come from some rabid Rabbis. The one to ‘Peter RV’, however, misses by miles.
As an amateur historian, I’ll give you a brief lecture.
First, Yugoslavia/Serbia was not attacked for being an ally of the USSR. (You may recall that Tito ruled that country, and that he was adored by us despite being a dictator and a communist, until the grave and beyond)
Second, Americans didnt come there late after the mujahhedins, but were there well before them, unless you don’t count the CIA and the NGOs.
Third, Mujahadins (Al Qaeda)were there with the full knowledge of the Clinton Administration, and supplied with arms by Saudi and Iranian Governments.
Fourth, Clinton’s Administration was so top-heavy with Jews (it could almost have capsized) who seized the opportunity to show Muslim Governments (if not peoples) their affection for them, at the expense of the Goyim Serbs. (This affection of the Jews for the Muslims grows exponentially with the distance from Jerusalem. Notice their unwavering support for the Chechens separatists?).
The War on Serbs, quickly forgotten, may soon come back in the news. Not only because of Kosovo but also because of the irresistible urge of our democratic candidates, especially Clinton and Biden,
to show off with their past services to the Muslims- at large.
But don’t expect anything for wretched Palestinians, Iraqis or Afgans except more of “our democracy”

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 24, 2007 at 3:03 am #

#Quote: “...the looming humanitarian crisis, manufactured and orchestrated by the Israeli government, in violation of international law, is a brutal form of collective punishment....”

More blood on America’s hands in the Middle East and courtesy of the Christian Zionists from Texas! Condi must be proud of herself over this ‘“diplomatic coup” which will cost the lives and suffering of yet another million human victims along with the million lost in the sanctions and blockade of Iraq between the two Gulf wars as well as the million since. Will this then be called Operation Palestinian Freedom???

Abbass has been exploited and placed in the only position he can survive in. That is, “Its them or us!”. Isn’t that exactly the same way the Israelis think in their Zionist-imperialist motivations as they continue to slowly expand at any cost to their former Palestinian Arab and Christian brothers and sisters? Add that to the sectarian mess in Iraq and the Middle East is becoming more explosive day by day......

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By driving bear, August 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm #

Hi Folks and Godsend

Thanks to Godsend I have changed my mind on universal Health care. Thanks to GodSend I see the need for Mental health care in America.
First Off I am Proud to be both a Christian and a Jew like the apostles.
Second I Noticed you would or could not respond to the FACTS I pointed out to You
Third On 9/11 the WTC towers fell because the Steel melted.

PS Godsend Please send the name of the Charity that
tries to help people like you and I will make a donation

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By RABID RABBIS FROM IZREAL, August 23, 2007 at 11:04 pm #
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“The Real Progressive” says “God, I hate the Gazan Arabs.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
well, its not your fault, its just that the brainwash that you got from your MOM that can only lead you
to despise all GOYIMIs, especially the ones you STOLE FROM for the fear of reprisals. nothing new comming from an ISRAELI ZIONIST. Just a reminder, you all speak of democracy and let me inform you that had the ZIONIST NOT STOOPED SO SO LOW with the palestinians maybe they would never have supported or created HAMAS but you people dont know the decent limits,
do you? HAMAS IS BOOMING as a reaction to IDIOTIC ISRAELI HANDLINGS of Palestinians. ACCEPT SOME FACTS ATLEAST,it’ll help you all resolve the shitty situation of the “shitty little state”.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
PeterRV : SERBIA/YUGOSLAVIA was decimated coz it was an EX-SOVIET ALLY and not really for anything else.  you see US military is far well organised and equipped to move in fast as soon as the orders are given out but they really took their time getting there and by that time the Mujahideen were already there, the USA could have arrived there even before the Mujahideen got there.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeremey : might come as a surprise to you but seeing israeli videos i do see them loving to torture and push around anyone deemed nonISRAELI, even journalists who dare to try to report the truth. see ifamericansknew.com . allow me to share a jewish joke,"what do you do when you see a 100 dead arabs?” “laff and reload”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DAWN : a malnourished and stressed out mom cannot really feed her infant real good breastmilk, maybe you need to research that.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Howard : ISRAEL will never ever negotiate, yes we know that too, theives never do that,love. they just steal and claim it as theirs, and of course the rocks thrown by palestinian kids do actually cause much much more harm then the daily air raids with not so smart BUT REALLY EXPENSIVE missiles, right?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Guiseppe : either you send them to the moon or send me to the moon coz I cant believe what a dark age i was born in.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
LEFTY : you should stick to keeping your hand busy at your crotch. coz all that typing is always really a waste of efforts by you. BTW you should quit the “ministry of propaganda” and get a real decent job. STOP ATTACKING THE PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHO HAVE THE GUTS TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. and when you cant deny it you resort to name calling. pityful creature that you
are.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OMEGAMAN : its a well known fact that whenever ISRAELIs withdraw they destroy everything standing, so come again, which green houses?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom Beck : you might not believe it but its really hard to guarantee PEACE when someone is standing on your air tube that you are using for breathing, do you think all those palestinians chose to fight as their first option? WRONG, all failures lead to the next bad option and now they are all the way down to the present situation. revisit Israel and go to
all the parts if you can access them and you might learn a lot.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE FROM READING MANY MANY GLOBAL NEWSPAPERS REGULARLY SINCE THE LAST 20 YEARS, ITS JUST THAT THE WORLD IS PLAGUED BY WARS DUE TO ZIONIST GREED. AND FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY & WORLD PEACE,ONE MUST BOYCOTT THE WARMONGERING ZIONISTIC GENOCIDAL MANIACS no matter who might they be.

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By Rabid Rabbis from Izreal, August 23, 2007 at 11:00 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

“The Real Progressive” says “God, I hate the Gazan Arabs.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
well, its not your fault, its just that the brainwash that you got from your MOM that can only lead you
to despise all GOYIMIs, especially the ones you STOLE FROM for the fear of reprisals. nothing new comming from an ISRAELI ZIONIST. Just a reminder, you all speak of democracy and let me inform you that had the ZIONIST NOT STOOPED SO SO LOW with the palestinians maybe they would never have supported or created HAMAS but you people dont know the decent limits,
do you? HAMAS IS BOOMING as a reaction to IDIOTIC ISRAELI HANDLINGS of Palestinians. ACCEPT SOME FACTS ATLEAST, it’ll help you all resolve the shitty situation of the “shitty little state”.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
PeterRV : SERBIA/YUGOSLAVIA was decimated coz it was an EX-SOVIET ALLY and not really for anything else.  you see US military is far well organised and equipped to move in fast as soon as the orders are given out but they really took their time getting there and by that time the Mujahideen were already there, the USA could have arrived there even before the Mujahideen got there.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeremey : might come as a surprise to you but seeing israeli videos i do see them loving to torture and push around anyone deemed nonISRAELI, even Journalists who dare to report the truth. see ifamericansknew.com . allow me to share a jewish joke,"what do you do when you see a 100 dead arabs?” “laff and reload”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DAWN : a malnourished and stressed out mom cannot really feed her infant real good breastmilk, maybe you need to research that.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Howard : ISRAEL will never ever negotiate, yes we know that too, theives never do that,love. they just steal and claim it as theirs, and of course the rocks thrown by palestinian kids do actually cause much much more harm then the daily air raids with not so smart BUT REALLY EXPENSIVE missiles, right?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Guiseppe : either you send them to the moon or send me to the moon coz I cant believe what a dark age i was born in.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
LEFTY : you should stick to keeping your hand busy at your crotch. coz all that typing is always really a waste of efforts by you. BTW you should quit the “ministry of propaganda” and get a real decent job. STOP ATTACKING THE PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHO HAVE THE GUTS TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. and when you cant deny it you resort to name calling. pityful creature that you
are.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OMEGAMAN : its a well known fact that whenever ISRAELIs withdraw they destroy everything standing, so come again, which green houses?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom Beck : you might not believe it but its really hard to guarantee PEACE when someone is standing on your air tube that you are using for breathing, do you think all those palestinians chose to fight as their first option? WRONG, all failures lead to the next bad option and now they are all the way down to the present situation. revisit Israel and go to
all the parts if you can access them and you might learn a lot.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE FROM READING MANY MANY GLOBAL NEWSPAPERS REGULARLY SINCE THE LAST 20 YEARS, ITS JUST THAT THE WORLD IS PLAGUED BY WARS DUE TO ZIONIST GREED. AND FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY & WORLD PEACE,ONE MUST BOYCOTT THE WARMONGERING ZIONISTIC GENOCIDAL MANIACS no matter who might they be.

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 7:41 pm #

Who sent you here, driving bear - Abe Foxman or John Hagee?

Better get more driving lessons before you try to take on a GodSend! wink

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 7:11 pm #

PS to driving bear:

You made a Freudian slip:

You said “I am a Jew”, instead of “I am a Christian” or “I am a Messianic Jew”. You SEE!, little slip-ups like that reveal who you really are! You can’t fool your subconscious - and you can’t fool me! wink

Your unbridled enthusiasm for Zionist Israel is the dead give-away, though! There are many self-proclaimed ‘Messianic Jews’ who are really still Jews (read “The Controversy of Zion” for a good description of how many Jews wear all sorts of disguises - including bear’s clothing!) wink

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 6:53 pm #

The great Ezekiel MELTING of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ has not happened yet. To pretend it did is like pretending the WTC towers were also ‘melted’ by fire. Besides that, Holy Scripture is “living and powerful”, which means that it is alive TODAY and TOMORROW.

You are far too immersed in the OT to be a Follower of Jesus the Christ! Not only that, you’re a Zionist - and Zionists worship Satan in ‘the Synagogue of Satan’ (Israel) or Bush, for that matter. You sound more like a ZioChristian - SEE!

http://novalight.org AND

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org AND

http://www.texemarrs.com

for details about ZioChristians OR read:

“The Controversy of Zion” (Douglas Reed). OR read:

“Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews”.

Are you, perhaps, a fan of John Hagee and his 50 million deceived CUI ZioChristian sheeple?

Actually, you sound more like a (driving) Zionist wolf in bear’s clothing or ZioChristian ‘Trojan Horse’ Jew! wink

You SEE!, it’s like this, driving bear: You CANNOT be a Follower of Jesus the Christ AND condone the murderous and evil actions of Israel’s Zionist (Satanist) leaders! You are either deceived or a LIAR! (I’m guessing LIAR).

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By driving bear, August 23, 2007 at 5:36 pm #

Godsend

Guess what , I am a Jew who saw the light of Jesus about 25 years ago. As for the Ezekiel melting passage I suggest you read the history of the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD and you will find that fire destroyed the city and the temple in fact the fire melted the golden religious object in the temple and after the fire the roman troops dismantled the stones to recover the melted gold and silver.

As for this happening in 2012 ,where on earth or your home planet did you get that.
Don’t feel bad you are only 1900+ years behind in history.

PS reread genesis chapter 12
Gen 12:2 and I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and be thou a blessing;
Gen 12:3 and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 4:58 pm #

More from the Epilogue of “The Controversy of Zion.” (Douglas Reed):

“In this 20th Century process, which I feel as an accompanying, evil presence, all of us now alive, Jew and Gentile, are involved, and most of us will see the denouement. As to that, Mr. Bernard J. Brown in 1933 misgivingly wrote, “Of course we must be feared and eventually hated if we persist in absorbing everything America offers us and yet refuse to become Americans just as we have always refused to become Russians or Poles.”

This statement applies to all countries of the West, not only to America, but Mr. Brown was wrong. What he foresaw is one thing the Talmudists cannot achieve; hatred is their monopoly, and creed, and they cannot make Christians, or Gentiles, hate Jews. The hateful things done by the West in this century were done under Talmudic prompting; hatred and vengeance are not innate in Westerners, and their faith forbids these. The teaching of hatred, as part of a religion, still comes only from the literal Torah-Talmudists in the revolutionary area, in Palestine, and where they have nested in the Western capitals. No Westerner would speak as a Zionist leader spoke to a Jewish meeting at Johannesburg in May, 1953: “The beast that is called Germany must not be trusted. The Germans must never be forgiven and the Jews must never have any contact or dealings with the Germans”.

The world cannot live like that, and for this reason the insensate plan must ultimately fail. This is the heresy which the teaching of Christ above all else repudiated; it is the one to which the political leaders of the West have lent themselves since Mr. Balfour, just fifty years ago, began to subordinate national policy to it. When the approaching climax has been overcome this heretic teaching, injected into the West from the Talmudic centre in Russia, will pass.

As a writer, I believe it will pass sooner and with less trouble for all involved, the more the general masses know about what has gone on in these fifty years.”

For nothing is secret that shall not be made manifest; Neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come abroad - Luke 8:17.
_______________________________________________
Unfortunately, at this late date, the ‘general masses’ are still in the dark about the agenda of Zionism - after more than 100 years!

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By PatrickHenry, August 23, 2007 at 4:51 pm #

We need to pull the plug on any and all aid until these people can get it together. 

That includes cleaning out the pentagon closets of the JINSA and AIPAC moles hiding there.

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 4:34 pm #

“They had a straw man, an Auslage Goy, as President....”

From the Epilogue of Douglas Reed’s book “The Controversy of Zion.”

http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/index.html

History repeats itself!

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 12:50 pm #

driving bear:

Since your vehicle seems to have stalled, I’ll give you a heads-up about Isaiah 53 (in the Torah).

What you will discover there is the identity of the ONLY Jew worth following - greater than ALL the previous Jewish prophets combined, including Jeremiah, Isaiah and Ezekiel! His Name (HaShem) is Yahweh Yahushua - also known as the ‘Messiah’. (that’s Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, if you’re not Jewish). And guess what, there was another bunch of the most important kind of Jew to emerge from the Chosen People at that time: Messianic Jews (Christ’s disciples). You heard of Saul of Tarsus, I presume - and Simon? Well, those 2 Jews became Messianic Jews - Paul and Peter. Surely you heard of them, right?! There were hundreds and thousands more - all Jews who saw the Light and became Messianic Jews! Then these Jews recruited Gentiles into the ranks of Christ’s Followers - there are millions of those today. smile

Really clever Jews are still discovering and SEEing the Light - even TODAY - right this minute! wink Just think, you could become one of those! smile And, you don’t even HAVE to be Jewish to SEE! the Light! smile

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 6:21 pm #

PS to driving bear:

Did you notice that Ezekiel 22 verses 12-22 are the same as the date I gave you: 12-22 (2012) The Chinese would find that very ‘interesting’ wink What do you think would happen if one or more comets from the Outer Oort Cloud came VERY close to Jerusalem? Do you think the extreme heat would turn the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ into desert glass? We’ll just have to wait and SEE! smile

If I’m right, you’ll have a VERY large parking lot to practice your driving. wink

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 6:09 pm #

driving bear:

The Ezekiel prophecy is as yet unfulfilled - or perhaps we all missed the great MELTING of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ in Jerusalem!?

Pray tell, was it a nuke or an approaching comet that caused the great melting and turned everything in sight into desert glass? How come all those old buildings are still there and have no burn marks? If I were you (God forbid!), I’d stay out of Israel, especially Jerusalem, until at least Dec. 22, 2012 - unless you want to have the experience of an ice cream cone in Death Valley (at Noon) (in the summer) wink

Take the Torah, go (not drive!) back to your cave in the woods and start reading Isaiah 53! smile You might discover something useful. wink

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By mr. steve, August 22, 2007 at 5:00 pm #
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There is a border with Egypt. Food gets there accross that border.

Sounds like an article designed to fake out the ignorant.

Its bad there but wepons are comming in and you can not resist without food. So cut the crap girls and boys. By the way, I am not a Zionist or a Fascist. It is about Geography, bribery and Wasta. I do not think ther will be famine a couple weeks from now. Why dont you guys just be honest and concentrate on things that matter. Peace now, struggle later after.

Out.

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By driving bear, August 22, 2007 at 3:49 pm #

Godsend

Find a Jew or a republican to help you read the following passage from the old testament and discover how wrong your 8/22 6:53 am commit is.

er 31:8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the uttermost parts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall they return hither.
Jer 31:9 They shall come with weeping; and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by rivers of waters, in a straight way wherein they shall not stumble; for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my first-born.
Jer 31:10 Hear the word of Jehovah, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off; and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
Jer 31:11 For Jehovah hath ransomed Jacob, and redeemed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.
Jer 31:12 And they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow unto the goodness of Jehovah, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

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By mishari, August 22, 2007 at 3:17 pm #

Great article,Chris.I just finished reading your book,
America Fascists:The Christian Right and The War On America.Scary stuff.Excellent book.

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 2:39 pm #

TW:

When there is Divine intervention, do not complain. Most likely God protected you from having your inane comments sliced-and-diced unmercifully by the sword of the Word! wink

Count your blessings and move on!

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By Tony Wicher, August 22, 2007 at 2:27 pm #

Well, I posted the statement by the True Torah Jews again for Godsend’s comments, but once again they did not appear. I don’t get it, but I am about to give up on Truthdig, and I have been an enthusiastic supporter until now.

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By Tony Wicher, August 22, 2007 at 2:19 pm #

ok, so my last post did appear immediately. But what happened to my previous post re Godsend?

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By Tony Wicher, August 22, 2007 at 2:18 pm #

So where are my posts now? I’m registered which is supposed to mean my comments are posted immediately. It has been several hours and where are they?

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By Mudwollow, August 22, 2007 at 11:58 am #

The extermination of the Buffalo was encouraged by the US milit