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Posted on Aug 20, 2007
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A Palestinian man walks past the border wall in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip. In underground darkness with stifling heat and limited air supply, Gazans are finding an antidote to their growing isolation: digging tunnels under their border with Egypt to smuggle everything from weapons to cigarettes to people.

By Chris Hedges

Gaza has become the Sarajevo of the Middle East. Israel, in an action similar to that of the Serbs in Bosnia, has surrounded and cut off nearly a million and a half Palestinians in the Gaza Strip since the Islamic militant group Hamas took control in June. Electric fences and watch towers manned by Israeli soldiers keep the Palestinians trapped inside the strip. The land and sea blockade, the halting of all but minimal humanitarian aid and the refusal to allow Gaza to receive financial support are crushing Gaza’s industry, farming and infrastructure.

The tactic is clear: Israel and the United States will strangle Gaza by cutting off all money and goods, including fuel and most food, to reduce one of the most densely populated places on the planet to an impoverished ghetto. Hunger and anarchy, they hope, will motivate Gazans to turn on Hamas, and the anarchy will perhaps be used to justify a reoccupation by the Israeli military and see the return of the quisling President Mahmoud Abbas, who was ousted after he led an abortive coup to overthrow the democratically elected Hamas government. He is now in the West Bank.

The Bush administration has, in an effort to bolster the credibility of Abbas, promised to provide his government with $190 million in aid and $80 million in security assistance. And the Israeli prime minister has traveled to Jericho to tout Abbas as a partner for peace.

The effects of the siege are disastrous. Palestinians in Gaza are not allowed to travel abroad. They cannot enter Israel for work. They do not fish off the coast because Israeli gunboats open fire at any vessels that are more than a mile offshore. Gaza has seen 75 percent of its factories closed since June, with the loss of 68,000 jobs, according to the World Bank. There is a 70 percent unemployment rate, and 1.1 million of the 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza depend on U.N. assistance to survive. The boycott has forced the United Nations to suspend $93 million worth of construction projects for homes, schools and sewage treatment in Gaza because cement and other building supplies have run out. These U.N. projects once employed 121,000 people. About 80 percent of the Palestinians in Gaza survive on $2 a day. Basic foodstuffs such as milk powder, baby formula, vegetable oil and medical supplies are running out. Families, unable to get food or find work, are living on little more than tea and bread.

The instability is compounded by the internecine violence among Palestinian factions, gangs, clans, militias and criminals, as well as the Israeli warplanes that bomb refugee camps in an effort to strike at militants and Israeli patrols that make incursions into the strip to round up suspects. It is impossible for nearly all Palestinians to enter or leave Gaza. The only connection the trapped population has with the outside comes through deep tunnels that Palestinians dig across the border into Egypt. These tunnels are used to smuggle goods, weapons and people, as a tunnel under the airport in Sarajevo was during the war in Bosnia.

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The looming humanitarian crisis, manufactured and orchestrated by the Israeli government, in violation of international law, is a brutal form of collective punishment. It has, however, the support of the compliant Abbas government. Abbas has ordered all government officials in Gaza, including the police, to refuse to go to work and government offices to shut their doors. Those who do go to work, he says, will no longer receive their salaries. He suspended the Gaza Strip attorney general’s office and, in order to keep money out of the hands of the Hamas government, led by Ismael Haniyah, he told government-run hospitals not to collect fees. Abbas has even threatened not to recognize high school exam results in Gaza because the education system is being administered by what he called an illegitimate government.

On the public relations front, Abbas, knowing what buttons to push in Washington, has linked the Hamas government with al-Qaida and branded its military wing “a terrorist organization.”

“Yes, through Hamas, al-Qaida has entered Gaza and through Hamas, al-Qaida is protected,” he told Italian RAI TV in Rome on July 10.

The decision by Israel and the United States to widen the schism and increase tensions between Hamas and Abbas is a blunder of catastrophic proportions. The hatred for Israel and the United States, which already runs deep among Palestinians, will only grow the longer the siege continues. Abbas, by dancing to the tune of those seen by the Palestinians as the enemy, is becoming a reviled, weak and discredited figure. The schism makes a peace agreement and future cooperation only more elusive. Hamas is an unsavory organization, but as long as it has broad support among the Palestinians, and it does, it is going to have to be included in any eventual settlement if civility and peace are to be restored in Gaza and the West Bank. The ham-fisted attempt to make Hamas go away by meting out draconian punishments on the Palestinians in Gaza will radicalize more Palestinians and see the civil war spill into the West Bank. Despite all the aid Abbas gets, he may soon be battling Hamas militants in Ramallah.

Violence begets violence. Iraq should have taught us that. The road chosen by the Bush administration and the Israeli government is one that failed in Iraq, failed in Lebanon and will fail in the Palestinian territories. It will only increase the chaos, suffering and death. Hamas is not going to vanish because of Israeli repression. Radical organizations, on the contrary, count on this repression to build a militant base and silence the voices of reason within their own societies. These two apocalyptic extremes—represented by Hamas and the Israeli right wing—need each other to further their frightening visions. The Israeli right wing dreams of a broken and compliant Palestinian population living on impoverished reservations surrounded by the Israeli military. Hamas dreams of destroying the Jewish state. Neither dream is based on reality. Neither dream will work. But a lot of people will suffer and die to find this out.


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By Marlboro, February 19, 2009 at 7:57 am Link to this comment
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I realize that negotiations on a Palestinian state will be arduous, and many Palestinians think that only the threat of terror can force Israel to make concessions on such difficult issues as Jerusalem and the right to return. They may think that, but they’re wrong - terror actually only hardens Israel’s determination not to give in.

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By cann4ing, September 10, 2007 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment

For those interested, I would strongly recommend watching Amy Goodman’s extended interview of President Carter which covers this issue in depth.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/10/1518224

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment
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To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so disgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and developed its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a publisher in
the U.S.They ended-up publishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 5:18 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so disgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so disgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

Report this

By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter RV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets ustly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Peter RV, August 30, 2007 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment
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Ref. #97698 by Nabih Ammary on 8/30 at 11:08
Thanks.
Except Hersh’s Samson Option I’ve read all those books, but I dont base my conclusions and opinion on them. I have memory and I observe.
I’ve been observing incredible sufferings of Palestinians, Lebanese and Iraqis, along with the equally incredible hypocrisy of the West and Jews in particular.
The Justice is completely on the side of Arab peoples and their struggle for liberation is nothing short of heroic.
And- I’ll stay with the Justice.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and developed its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lengthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearshheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a publisher in
the U.S.They ended-up publishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)“Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel’s apologists in the United States
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.some of the Zionists/Israel
apologists

called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had done for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypt.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyptian President to
stay and stick withhim for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insane and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attempts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and developed its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lengthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearshheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a publisher in
the U.S.They ended-up publishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)“Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel’s apologists in the United States
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.some of the Zionists/Israel
apologists

called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had done for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Peter RV, August 30, 2007 at 11:42 am Link to this comment
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Ref.#67658 by Robert on 8/30 at 6.o5 am.
I may try again to register ( I did that at least five times - twice they even accepted it ) although the names like Kaufman and Spector do not bode well for my application.It may very well be I am too irritating to them but I’ll wear my opinion on my sleeves, and this, whether anybody likes it or not.
It just happens that my opinion coincides with the truth about what is happening in the ME and I would consider the basest cowardice from my part, to restrain myself from proclaiming it.
P.S. There is nothing unusual in finding that some people solicit honest opinions in order to suppress them. The NYT has practiced that for ages.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 11:15 am Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets justly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attemts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 30, 2007 at 11:00 am Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

To:97295 by Peter PV on 8/28 at 9:49am

Peter,

I must tell you that your comments were
splendid.You hit the real targets ustly
Thank you for being so precise.

Any other blogger who cares to emulate
Peter’s precision in exposing the myths,delusion,illusion and attemts
of the Zionists to alter history and
geography of the Middle East needs to
read,at least,one of the following
books:

(1)“By Way Of Deception,Thou Shalt Do
War” written by Victor Ostrovsky who
was a former agent of the Mossad,Israel’s secret intelligence
apparatus.Mr.Ostrovsky was so desgusted by what Israel was doing,he
fled to Canada,his country of birth
and wrote this book.

(2)“They Dare To Speak Out” written by
Paul Findley,the former Congressman
from Illinois.The depth of Zionists
infiltrations in the U.S. institutions
is objectively exposed.

(3)“Deliberate Deception” again writt
-en by Paul Findley,the former Illinois’ Congressman.Each Zionist’s
myth claimed to be the ultimate truth
by the Zionists was(and is) challenged
by the author who provided a correction for every Zionist myth.

(4)“The Samson Option” written by the
respected American Journalist Seymour
Hersh.This book reads like a detective
novel but fully documented.The book
describes in fascinating details how
Israel through deception,embezzlement
and internationally illegal means
built and devoloped its nuclear arsenal.It is a fascinating living
documentof hard work.

(5)“Israel Lobby” a lenthy article written by Professor Steven Walt of
Harvard University and Professor John
Mearsheimer of University of Chicago.
It was so shameful that the two authors could not find a puplisher in
the U.S.They ended-up puplishing it
first in “The London Reviews of Books”
in England.It is now available in the
United States.

(6)Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid” by
former President Jimmy Carter.The
world wide beloved former President
was savagely attacked by the Zionists and the Israel Firsters in the U.S.
Their attacks backfired by pushing
the sales of the book so high which
resulted in placing the book in the
best sellers list by the New York
Times.Some of the Zionists/Israel
Firsters called the former President
“Anti-Semite” after all what he had don for them in 1979 at Camp David
when President Anwar Sadat of egypt was fed-up by the Israeli leadership
position and decided to withdraw from
the peace talk and ready to return to Egypy.It was President Carter who
persuaded the Egyption President to
stay and stick withhime for peace.And
peace Israel got with Egypt.Hah,former
President Carter is “Anti-Semite”???.
They must be insanes and lost their
minds and sense of fairness and humanity.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio.

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By Robert, August 30, 2007 at 7:05 am Link to this comment

Comment #97569 by Peter RV on 8/29

Peter…that is really strange about not being able or aloud to register on truthdig. This is really odd.

One wonders why and who is behind it? What are their reasons and/or motives? I believe the same happened to a commenter “Federer”; he was not allowed to register.

Could the reason(s) be for your criticism of zionism and Israel’s IDF brutal killing of Palestinians!

I think that you should e-mail the following truthdig publishers:

Zaude Kaufman and Karen Spector.

Here are their e-mail addresses:

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Writeand e-mail them. Tell them what is going on and ask why are you blocked from registering at truthdig?

All commenters who are having problems should writethe above truthdig staffers and convey your concerns/problems.

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By Peter RV, August 30, 2007 at 6:18 am Link to this comment
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I meant to say Tony (Wicher), instead of ‘Tom’.Sorry

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By Peter RV, August 29, 2007 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment
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Ref.#97503 by Robert.
Thanks.
Lately, oddly enough, my postings are coming through, although, again I wasn’t permitted to register. Tom is registred but that doesn’t seem to help him very much. What on earth is going on?

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By Robert, August 29, 2007 at 11:39 am Link to this comment

Comment #97295 by PeterRV on 8/28

Peter…Great comment! At least you are not blocked from posting on this forum.

Are you blocked from registering on truthdig?

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By Tony Wicher, August 29, 2007 at 10:06 am Link to this comment

All right, where is my last post?

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By PatrickHenry, August 29, 2007 at 4:14 am Link to this comment

Anytime a government comes in and “takes” one’s property its unjust. 

I could care less about the jewish faith, however I do care about the Israeli manipulation of our government, foreign policy and our elected representives through their “sayanim” and unregistered and unmonitored lobbies.

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By GodSend, August 28, 2007 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment

Peter RV:

Notice how driving bear’s language resembles a robot speaking. There is no recognizable human emotion. It’s ‘Palestine’, not any reference to human beings whatsoever or mention of the long history of their persecution and murdering by Israelis. Now you know what I meant by ‘heart of stone’! Zionists and hate-filled Jews think of Palestinians and goyim like cockroaches -  vermin to be exterminated - and that’s what they have been doing and are still doing for many years. They need to be stopped! Yahweh will stop them - if humanity doesn’t.

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By driving bear, August 28, 2007 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment

Peter RV

I’m glad you read the works of my hero Ms. Golda
First off there has never been a nation of Palestine.
In Fact the land in question was referred to as the “Southern civil district of Syria ” prior to 1917
and the English taking it from Turkey in WWI.
As for Egypt most egyptians faced the truth about Israel and the Camp David treaty has held for almost 30 years. True Egypt has a few bad apples like Bin laden’s #2 man, But Egypt keeps them under control.

Peter RV your antisemitism has blinded you to the truth , I will pray for your “sight ” to return

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By GodSend, August 28, 2007 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment

Don’t bother, Peter RV - Zionists and some Jews have hearts of stone! They are waiting for Yahweh Yahushua to turn them into hearts of flesh.

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By Peter RV, August 28, 2007 at 10:49 am Link to this comment
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Ref. #96938 by Driving Bear.
The gems of your arguments, ‘since nobody will say it I will’ or ‘so called Palestinians’, or ’ Egypt realized Israel is here to stay’or further ‘wiping Israel off the map’, must be definitely product of your drunken Driving.
First, you have said everything you had to say, and repeated thousands of times all over again, about defence of Israel’s abominable behaviour towards a defenseless Palestinian (‘so called’) People.
( This ‘so called’ comes straight from the dictionary of Golda Meyer, the Israeli PM who publicly denied existance of the Palestinian People- serves also as evidence that our Bear is of Israeli origin. No American Jew denies anylonger Palestinians exist)
  What makes- you fool-believe that anybody listens to you after a carnage of sixty years,you have inflicted on a people whose only fault was their refusal to accept being Israel’s slaves? Are you so drenched in your Goebbelsian doctrine that your lie thousand times repeated, must become an accepted truth? Besides ,can’t you see, you have repeated it already milion times, and it doesn’t stick- you Jewish fools!
Herr Goebbels could have told you that all lies had expiring dates, after which they can only produce a blowback. Hitler’s, bearly lasted only some twelve years.
Egypt realized Israel is there to stay, could be believable if ‘Egypt’ were some man or woman ( perhaps jewish) expressing his/her irrelevant opinion.Do you really believe this is the opinion of Egyptian People? Would you be surprised if one of these days Moubarak and his corruptella on CIA pay roll, end up as Shah of Iran?
Israel is here to stay? is becoming more and more a doubtfull proposition if Israel continues to strive to exterminate Palestinian People.
Trying blindly to do that Israel might very well wipe itself, not only out of the famous ‘map’ but also out of existance.

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By GodSend, August 26, 2007 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

Notice how the erratically driving bear (Christian? - hah!) is full of Jesus-like compassion for the poor, suffering and genocided Palestinians in Gaza (reminds one of the Warsaw Ghetto, doesn’t it!)? That’s a Zionist Devil-worshiper (or maybe hate-filled Jew) speaking with a forked tongue.

No need to worry about anyone ‘wiping Israel off the map’ - Yahweh has already promised to ‘just do it’! (if you consider MELTING equivalent to ‘wiping off’. wink

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By driving bear, August 25, 2007 at 9:11 pm Link to this comment

Since nobody else will say it I will. The suffering of the so called palestinians in Gaza is in fact a blessing in disguise and is absolutely vital to any hope to a peace process. How you might ask look at history in specific the Egypt/Israel peace accord of the late 70’s. How was this achieved : Only after both the 67 and 73 war. After these wars Egypt realized that Israel was here to stay and they ( Egypt and the Arab nation ) could not destroy it by force. Therefore Egypt realized it’s best and only hope was at the peace table. Hamas whi controls Gaza still holds to the dream of wiping Israel off the map and establishing a Palesteinain state from the Jordan River to the Med Sea. This is not Going to happen and the Suffering of the Palesteinain people will God willing make them realize this FACT.
Then uand only then will the “peace process” have a snowball’s chance in hell of working.

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By GodSend, August 25, 2007 at 4:40 pm Link to this comment

Peter RV:

‘Follower of Christ’ is more accurate than ‘religious fanatic’ smile If you prefer something shorter in the vernacular, ‘Jesus freak’ is OK, too! wink

It helps to be precise! smile

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By GodSend, August 25, 2007 at 4:25 pm Link to this comment

Farewell to TW:

smile

PS Try not to overdo the ‘hate’ thing - it’s bad for your health! wink

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By PatrickHenry, August 25, 2007 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

You sew what you reap.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

The US has turned a corner in the past 30 years were our humanitarian outreach to the lesser countries of the world has turned into a forced hand.

No wonder we have the present administration.

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By Tony Wicher, August 25, 2007 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment

Re #96878 by Peter RV on 8/25 at 12:12 pm

I have only so much tolerance for intellectual garbage. That point has been reached. Perhaps in a few days or weeks the level of pollution and disgust in my brain will subside and I will be ready to wade back into the sewer again. Good luck.

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By Peter RV, August 25, 2007 at 1:12 pm Link to this comment
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Ref.#96855

  I can’t understand your irritation over Godsend’s postings, or, over any other for that matter.
  When there are irreconsiliable points, parties should express their opinions and that is that.
  I have abandoned, long time ago, the idea that any discussion had to lead to an agreement.The goal is, as far as I am concerned, to state honestly and as clearly as possible, one’s opinion and to let anybody fume about it, as much as he wants. Otherwise, a discussion forum becomes phony, giving ‘balanced’ answer to any question, sort of political peddling of falsehoods.
So, what does it matter if anybody disagrees with you, if you are satisfied that you have offered a sincere opinion? (Besides, an opinion which one rejects, sometimes makes one think)
I don’t think you should abandon arguing just because a religious fanatic has crossed you path.

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By Tony Wicher, August 25, 2007 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

#96429 by GodSend on 8/22 at 2:39 pm

“TW:

When there is Divine intervention, do not complain. Most likely God protected you from having your inane comments sliced-and-diced unmercifully by the sword of the Word! 

Count your blessings and move on! “

Dogshit,

God, if there is one, knows I hate you, your religion and your emoticon as much as IHW does.  But you are probably right about this. I won’t waste any more time here.

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By Nabih Ammari, August 25, 2007 at 11:10 am Link to this comment
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Any Blogger or any other person cares to comrehend
the real situation in the Palestinian land of Gaza
and West Bank and what has been happening to the
Palestinian people on the hands of the Israeli Army
and the hands of the fanatical Israeli Settlers should read the detailed writing of Rachell Marshall
who writes in the outstanding and specialized magazine called “Washington Report On Middle East
Affairs”,published by American Trust.The following
information may help in contacting the magazine:

For subscriptions,sample copies and donations:
Washington Report On Middle East Affairs
P.O.Box 1686
Williamsport,PA 17703-1686
Phone:(570)320-2073 or (800)219-1187
Fax:(570)322-2063
E-mail: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

The magazine is non-profit.It depends on the income
it generates from the subscription fees(29 dollar
per year) and on donations and on selling excellent
books on the Middle East.

I have been a subscriberto the magazine for the last
twenty years and I highly recommend it.You need not take my word for it.Check it out in your local
library.If your local library deos not have it then
contact the magazine for a free sample copy.

And I have been following the writing of Rachelle
Marshall since she started writing in the Washington
Report many years ago I cannot even remember exactly
when.Her writing about the suffering of the Real
Palestinian Natives,The Real Owners of Palestine is
not just excellent.It is outstanding.Read her writing and find out for yourself.
Sincerely,
Nabih Ammari
An Independent in Ohio

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 25, 2007 at 1:03 am Link to this comment

96715 by omop on 8/24 at 12:20 pm: “...Its 2048 and the Palestenian with the help of Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and others have taken control over all of Israel….”

Agreed likely outcome, ‘omop’, and they deserve it. But if Bush or his Israeli buddies invade/attack Iran, Russia will not wait to “wipe Israel off the map”! After all, its their nuclear reactor which will be attacked at Bushehr in Iran!

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By omop, August 24, 2007 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment

Its 2048 and the Palestenian with the help of Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and others have taken control over all of Israel.

israelis and Palestenians have exchanged status and now all the israelis have been moved into Gaza and parts of the West Bank. The fence that was built by the Israelis in the years of 2000-2010 still separates the Israelis from the Palestenians except that each side on the other side of the fence.

Should the Palestenians do to the Israelis in Gaza and the West Bank what the israelis have done to them in the years starting in 1948?

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By GodSend, August 24, 2007 at 9:30 am Link to this comment

driving bear:

Your unjustified slander brands you as a ZioChristian and Neocon (Zionist)! (same tactics).

You have not presented any FACTS worth commenting on!

Your lame comments about the 70AD burning of the Jerusalem temple as fulfillment of the Ezekiel prophecy indicate wishful (Zionist) thinking. Yahweh said (Ezekiel) “I will leave them there and MELT them”. He said ‘them’, NOT ‘the temple in Jerusalem’ or Jerusalem. It is a MELTING of the Zionist Israelis - people, not gold! It says MELT, not burn! If He meant burn, He would have said burn. When you assemble the various metals He mentions in a furnace, you then apply intense heat - not just setting them on fire. Not only that, prophecy can be fulfilled more than once. “The Word of God is living and powerful” - it applies yesterday, today AND tomorrow! Many of us will SEE! the great melting of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ - hopefully from a safe distance! smile

What is your position on Zionism and Bush and the ZioChristians and 9/11 and the Israeli ‘crimes against Palestinians and humanity’ (not to mention their devilish deception and countless other crimes), huh?! We all know what it is - you already let the cat out of the bag (or the bear out of the cave) wink You are most likely a fake ‘Christian’ like Bush, Hagee, Osteen, Schuler and millions of others! You, an apostle like Paul and Peter?! Add blasphemy to your deceptions. Be careful what you say - or Yahweh may send you to Israel to participate in the great MELTING! wink

Your ‘official’ 9/11 position is the nail in your coffin - you are either a deceptive Zionist outright or a ZioChristian ‘Trojan Horse’ - and most definitely a Zionist shill, planted here to try and deceive folks. It didn’t work! Go back to your ZioChristian or Zionist masters for better instructions! wink

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By Peter RV, August 24, 2007 at 6:05 am Link to this comment
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Ref.#96641 by Rabid Rabbis from Izrael.

Your comments to the postings are spirited, as these indeed seem to come from some rabid Rabbis. The one to ‘Peter RV’, however, misses by miles.
As an amateur historian, I’ll give you a brief lecture.
First, Yugoslavia/Serbia was not attacked for being an ally of the USSR. (You may recall that Tito ruled that country, and that he was adored by us despite being a dictator and a communist, until the grave and beyond)
Second, Americans didnt come there late after the mujahhedins, but were there well before them, unless you don’t count the CIA and the NGOs.
Third, Mujahadins (Al Qaeda)were there with the full knowledge of the Clinton Administration, and supplied with arms by Saudi and Iranian Governments.
Fourth, Clinton’s Administration was so top-heavy with Jews (it could almost have capsized) who seized the opportunity to show Muslim Governments (if not peoples) their affection for them, at the expense of the Goyim Serbs. (This affection of the Jews for the Muslims grows exponentially with the distance from Jerusalem. Notice their unwavering support for the Chechens separatists?).
The War on Serbs, quickly forgotten, may soon come back in the news. Not only because of Kosovo but also because of the irresistible urge of our democratic candidates, especially Clinton and Biden,
to show off with their past services to the Muslims- at large.
But don’t expect anything for wretched Palestinians, Iraqis or Afgans except more of “our democracy”

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 24, 2007 at 4:03 am Link to this comment

#Quote: “...the looming humanitarian crisis, manufactured and orchestrated by the Israeli government, in violation of international law, is a brutal form of collective punishment….”

More blood on America’s hands in the Middle East and courtesy of the Christian Zionists from Texas! Condi must be proud of herself over this ‘“diplomatic coup” which will cost the lives and suffering of yet another million human victims along with the million lost in the sanctions and blockade of Iraq between the two Gulf wars as well as the million since. Will this then be called Operation Palestinian Freedom???

Abbass has been exploited and placed in the only position he can survive in. That is, “Its them or us!”. Isn’t that exactly the same way the Israelis think in their Zionist-imperialist motivations as they continue to slowly expand at any cost to their former Palestinian Arab and Christian brothers and sisters? Add that to the sectarian mess in Iraq and the Middle East is becoming more explosive day by day…...

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By driving bear, August 24, 2007 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

Hi Folks and Godsend

Thanks to Godsend I have changed my mind on universal Health care. Thanks to GodSend I see the need for Mental health care in America.
First Off I am Proud to be both a Christian and a Jew like the apostles.
Second I Noticed you would or could not respond to the FACTS I pointed out to You
Third On 9/11 the WTC towers fell because the Steel melted.

PS Godsend Please send the name of the Charity that
tries to help people like you and I will make a donation

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By RABID RABBIS FROM IZREAL, August 24, 2007 at 12:04 am Link to this comment
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“The Real Progressive” says “God, I hate the Gazan Arabs.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
well, its not your fault, its just that the brainwash that you got from your MOM that can only lead you
to despise all GOYIMIs, especially the ones you STOLE FROM for the fear of reprisals. nothing new comming from an ISRAELI ZIONIST. Just a reminder, you all speak of democracy and let me inform you that had the ZIONIST NOT STOOPED SO SO LOW with the palestinians maybe they would never have supported or created HAMAS but you people dont know the decent limits,
do you? HAMAS IS BOOMING as a reaction to IDIOTIC ISRAELI HANDLINGS of Palestinians. ACCEPT SOME FACTS ATLEAST,it’ll help you all resolve the shitty situation of the “shitty little state”.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
PeterRV : SERBIA/YUGOSLAVIA was decimated coz it was an EX-SOVIET ALLY and not really for anything else.  you see US military is far well organised and equipped to move in fast as soon as the orders are given out but they really took their time getting there and by that time the Mujahideen were already there, the USA could have arrived there even before the Mujahideen got there.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeremey : might come as a surprise to you but seeing israeli videos i do see them loving to torture and push around anyone deemed nonISRAELI, even journalists who dare to try to report the truth. see ifamericansknew.com . allow me to share a jewish joke,“what do you do when you see a 100 dead arabs?” “laff and reload”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DAWN : a malnourished and stressed out mom cannot really feed her infant real good breastmilk, maybe you need to research that.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Howard : ISRAEL will never ever negotiate, yes we know that too, theives never do that,love. they just steal and claim it as theirs, and of course the rocks thrown by palestinian kids do actually cause much much more harm then the daily air raids with not so smart BUT REALLY EXPENSIVE missiles, right?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Guiseppe : either you send them to the moon or send me to the moon coz I cant believe what a dark age i was born in.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
LEFTY : you should stick to keeping your hand busy at your crotch. coz all that typing is always really a waste of efforts by you. BTW you should quit the “ministry of propaganda” and get a real decent job. STOP ATTACKING THE PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHO HAVE THE GUTS TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. and when you cant deny it you resort to name calling. pityful creature that you
are.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OMEGAMAN : its a well known fact that whenever ISRAELIs withdraw they destroy everything standing, so come again, which green houses?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom Beck : you might not believe it but its really hard to guarantee PEACE when someone is standing on your air tube that you are using for breathing, do you think all those palestinians chose to fight as their first option? WRONG, all failures lead to the next bad option and now they are all the way down to the present situation. revisit Israel and go to
all the parts if you can access them and you might learn a lot.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE FROM READING MANY MANY GLOBAL NEWSPAPERS REGULARLY SINCE THE LAST 20 YEARS, ITS JUST THAT THE WORLD IS PLAGUED BY WARS DUE TO ZIONIST GREED. AND FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY & WORLD PEACE,ONE MUST BOYCOTT THE WARMONGERING ZIONISTIC GENOCIDAL MANIACS no matter who might they be.

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“The Real Progressive” says “God, I hate the Gazan Arabs.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
well, its not your fault, its just that the brainwash that you got from your MOM that can only lead you
to despise all GOYIMIs, especially the ones you STOLE FROM for the fear of reprisals. nothing new comming from an ISRAELI ZIONIST. Just a reminder, you all speak of democracy and let me inform you that had the ZIONIST NOT STOOPED SO SO LOW with the palestinians maybe they would never have supported or created HAMAS but you people dont know the decent limits,
do you? HAMAS IS BOOMING as a reaction to IDIOTIC ISRAELI HANDLINGS of Palestinians. ACCEPT SOME FACTS ATLEAST, it’ll help you all resolve the shitty situation of the “shitty little state”.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
PeterRV : SERBIA/YUGOSLAVIA was decimated coz it was an EX-SOVIET ALLY and not really for anything else.  you see US military is far well organised and equipped to move in fast as soon as the orders are given out but they really took their time getting there and by that time the Mujahideen were already there, the USA could have arrived there even before the Mujahideen got there.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeremey : might come as a surprise to you but seeing israeli videos i do see them loving to torture and push around anyone deemed nonISRAELI, even Journalists who dare to report the truth. see ifamericansknew.com . allow me to share a jewish joke,“what do you do when you see a 100 dead arabs?” “laff and reload”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DAWN : a malnourished and stressed out mom cannot really feed her infant real good breastmilk, maybe you need to research that.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Howard : ISRAEL will never ever negotiate, yes we know that too, theives never do that,love. they just steal and claim it as theirs, and of course the rocks thrown by palestinian kids do actually cause much much more harm then the daily air raids with not so smart BUT REALLY EXPENSIVE missiles, right?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Guiseppe : either you send them to the moon or send me to the moon coz I cant believe what a dark age i was born in.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
LEFTY : you should stick to keeping your hand busy at your crotch. coz all that typing is always really a waste of efforts by you. BTW you should quit the “ministry of propaganda” and get a real decent job. STOP ATTACKING THE PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHO HAVE THE GUTS TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. and when you cant deny it you resort to name calling. pityful creature that you
are.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OMEGAMAN : its a well known fact that whenever ISRAELIs withdraw they destroy everything standing, so come again, which green houses?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom Beck : you might not believe it but its really hard to guarantee PEACE when someone is standing on your air tube that you are using for breathing, do you think all those palestinians chose to fight as their first option? WRONG, all failures lead to the next bad option and now they are all the way down to the present situation. revisit Israel and go to
all the parts if you can access them and you might learn a lot.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE FROM READING MANY MANY GLOBAL NEWSPAPERS REGULARLY SINCE THE LAST 20 YEARS, ITS JUST THAT THE WORLD IS PLAGUED BY WARS DUE TO ZIONIST GREED. AND FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY & WORLD PEACE,ONE MUST BOYCOTT THE WARMONGERING ZIONISTIC GENOCIDAL MANIACS no matter who might they be.

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 8:41 pm Link to this comment

Who sent you here, driving bear - Abe Foxman or John Hagee?

Better get more driving lessons before you try to take on a GodSend! wink

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 8:11 pm Link to this comment

PS to driving bear:

You made a Freudian slip:

You said “I am a Jew”, instead of “I am a Christian” or “I am a Messianic Jew”. You SEE!, little slip-ups like that reveal who you really are! You can’t fool your subconscious - and you can’t fool me! wink

Your unbridled enthusiasm for Zionist Israel is the dead give-away, though! There are many self-proclaimed ‘Messianic Jews’ who are really still Jews (read “The Controversy of Zion” for a good description of how many Jews wear all sorts of disguises - including bear’s clothing!) wink

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment

The great Ezekiel MELTING of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ has not happened yet. To pretend it did is like pretending the WTC towers were also ‘melted’ by fire. Besides that, Holy Scripture is “living and powerful”, which means that it is alive TODAY and TOMORROW.

You are far too immersed in the OT to be a Follower of Jesus the Christ! Not only that, you’re a Zionist - and Zionists worship Satan in ‘the Synagogue of Satan’ (Israel) or Bush, for that matter. You sound more like a ZioChristian - SEE!

http://novalight.org AND

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org AND

http://www.texemarrs.com

for details about ZioChristians OR read:

“The Controversy of Zion” (Douglas Reed). OR read:

“Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews”.

Are you, perhaps, a fan of John Hagee and his 50 million deceived CUI ZioChristian sheeple?

Actually, you sound more like a (driving) Zionist wolf in bear’s clothing or ZioChristian ‘Trojan Horse’ Jew! wink

You SEE!, it’s like this, driving bear: You CANNOT be a Follower of Jesus the Christ AND condone the murderous and evil actions of Israel’s Zionist (Satanist) leaders! You are either deceived or a LIAR! (I’m guessing LIAR).

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By driving bear, August 23, 2007 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment

Godsend

Guess what , I am a Jew who saw the light of Jesus about 25 years ago. As for the Ezekiel melting passage I suggest you read the history of the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD and you will find that fire destroyed the city and the temple in fact the fire melted the golden religious object in the temple and after the fire the roman troops dismantled the stones to recover the melted gold and silver.

As for this happening in 2012 ,where on earth or your home planet did you get that.
Don’t feel bad you are only 1900+ years behind in history.

PS reread genesis chapter 12
Gen 12:2 and I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and be thou a blessing;
Gen 12:3 and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 5:58 pm Link to this comment

More from the Epilogue of “The Controversy of Zion.”  (Douglas Reed):

“In this 20th Century process, which I feel as an accompanying, evil presence, all of us now alive, Jew and Gentile, are involved, and most of us will see the denouement. As to that, Mr. Bernard J. Brown in 1933 misgivingly wrote, “Of course we must be feared and eventually hated if we persist in absorbing everything America offers us and yet refuse to become Americans just as we have always refused to become Russians or Poles.”

This statement applies to all countries of the West, not only to America, but Mr. Brown was wrong. What he foresaw is one thing the Talmudists cannot achieve; hatred is their monopoly, and creed, and they cannot make Christians, or Gentiles, hate Jews. The hateful things done by the West in this century were done under Talmudic prompting; hatred and vengeance are not innate in Westerners, and their faith forbids these. The teaching of hatred, as part of a religion, still comes only from the literal Torah-Talmudists in the revolutionary area, in Palestine, and where they have nested in the Western capitals. No Westerner would speak as a Zionist leader spoke to a Jewish meeting at Johannesburg in May, 1953: “The beast that is called Germany must not be trusted. The Germans must never be forgiven and the Jews must never have any contact or dealings with the Germans”.

The world cannot live like that, and for this reason the insensate plan must ultimately fail. This is the heresy which the teaching of Christ above all else repudiated; it is the one to which the political leaders of the West have lent themselves since Mr. Balfour, just fifty years ago, began to subordinate national policy to it. When the approaching climax has been overcome this heretic teaching, injected into the West from the Talmudic centre in Russia, will pass.

As a writer, I believe it will pass sooner and with less trouble for all involved, the more the general masses know about what has gone on in these fifty years.”

For nothing is secret that shall not be made manifest; Neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come abroad - Luke 8:17.
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Unfortunately, at this late date, the ‘general masses’ are still in the dark about the agenda of Zionism - after more than 100 years!

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By PatrickHenry, August 23, 2007 at 5:51 pm Link to this comment

We need to pull the plug on any and all aid until these people can get it together. 

That includes cleaning out the pentagon closets of the JINSA and AIPAC moles hiding there.

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 5:34 pm Link to this comment

“They had a straw man, an Auslage Goy, as President….”

From the Epilogue of Douglas Reed’s book “The Controversy of Zion.”

http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/index.html

History repeats itself!

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By GodSend, August 23, 2007 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment

driving bear:

Since your vehicle seems to have stalled, I’ll give you a heads-up about Isaiah 53 (in the Torah).

What you will discover there is the identity of the ONLY Jew worth following - greater than ALL the previous Jewish prophets combined, including Jeremiah, Isaiah and Ezekiel! His Name (HaShem) is Yahweh Yahushua - also known as the ‘Messiah’. (that’s Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, if you’re not Jewish). And guess what, there was another bunch of the most important kind of Jew to emerge from the Chosen People at that time: Messianic Jews (Christ’s disciples). You heard of Saul of Tarsus, I presume - and Simon? Well, those 2 Jews became Messianic Jews - Paul and Peter. Surely you heard of them, right?! There were hundreds and thousands more - all Jews who saw the Light and became Messianic Jews! Then these Jews recruited Gentiles into the ranks of Christ’s Followers - there are millions of those today. smile

Really clever Jews are still discovering and SEEing the Light - even TODAY - right this minute! wink Just think, you could become one of those! smile And, you don’t even HAVE to be Jewish to SEE! the Light! smile

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 7:21 pm Link to this comment

PS to driving bear:

Did you notice that Ezekiel 22 verses 12-22 are the same as the date I gave you: 12-22 (2012) The Chinese would find that very ‘interesting’ wink What do you think would happen if one or more comets from the Outer Oort Cloud came VERY close to Jerusalem? Do you think the extreme heat would turn the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ into desert glass? We’ll just have to wait and SEE! smile

If I’m right, you’ll have a VERY large parking lot to practice your driving. wink

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 7:09 pm Link to this comment

driving bear:

The Ezekiel prophecy is as yet unfulfilled - or perhaps we all missed the great MELTING of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ in Jerusalem!?

Pray tell, was it a nuke or an approaching comet that caused the great melting and turned everything in sight into desert glass? How come all those old buildings are still there and have no burn marks? If I were you (God forbid!), I’d stay out of Israel, especially Jerusalem, until at least Dec. 22, 2012 - unless you want to have the experience of an ice cream cone in Death Valley (at Noon) (in the summer) wink

Take the Torah, go (not drive!) back to your cave in the woods and start reading Isaiah 53! smile You might discover something useful. wink

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By mr. steve, August 22, 2007 at 6:00 pm Link to this comment
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There is a border with Egypt. Food gets there accross that border.

Sounds like an article designed to fake out the ignorant.

Its bad there but wepons are comming in and you can not resist without food. So cut the crap girls and boys. By the way, I am not a Zionist or a Fascist. It is about Geography, bribery and Wasta. I do not think ther will be famine a couple weeks from now. Why dont you guys just be honest and concentrate on things that matter. Peace now, struggle later after.

Out.

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By driving bear, August 22, 2007 at 4:49 pm Link to this comment

Godsend

Find a Jew or a republican to help you read the following passage from the old testament and discover how wrong your 8/22 6:53 am commit is.

er 31:8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the uttermost parts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall they return hither.
Jer 31:9 They shall come with weeping; and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by rivers of waters, in a straight way wherein they shall not stumble; for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my first-born.
Jer 31:10 Hear the word of Jehovah, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off; and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
Jer 31:11 For Jehovah hath ransomed Jacob, and redeemed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.
Jer 31:12 And they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow unto the goodness of Jehovah, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

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By mishari, August 22, 2007 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment

Great article,Chris.I just finished reading your book,
America Fascists:The Christian Right and The War On America.Scary stuff.Excellent book.

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 3:39 pm Link to this comment

TW:

When there is Divine intervention, do not complain. Most likely God protected you from having your inane comments sliced-and-diced unmercifully by the sword of the Word! wink

Count your blessings and move on!

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By Tony Wicher, August 22, 2007 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment

Well, I posted the statement by the True Torah Jews again for Godsend’s comments, but once again they did not appear. I don’t get it, but I am about to give up on Truthdig, and I have been an enthusiastic supporter until now.

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By Tony Wicher, August 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

ok, so my last post did appear immediately. But what happened to my previous post re Godsend?

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By Tony Wicher, August 22, 2007 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

So where are my posts now? I’m registered which is supposed to mean my comments are posted immediately. It has been several hours and where are they?

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By Mudwollow, August 22, 2007 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

The extermination of the Buffalo was encouraged by the US military as a method of starving the indigenous American inhabitants into submission. It worked well. The Israeli manifest destiny has many similarities to the American version so it’s no surprise this tactic is being used again in the 21st century to accomplish the same goals of killing off inhabitants to steal their land.

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

From the Torah (Old Testament):

Ezekiel 22:12-22 (the prophecy and promise of the great MELTING of the ‘rebellious house of Israel’ in Jerusalem).

Israel is part of the Divine Plan for the Chosen People - BUT they still don’t understand why Yahweh gathered them there - or did He make the Devil do it?! - Herzl, et al wink

You might say “From the frying pan (diaspora) into the fire (melting)”. Oy veh!

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By Tom Beck, August 22, 2007 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment
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All Hamas has to do to end this is to offer Israel real, permanent peace. Not a “ten-year ceasefire” but permanent, irrevocable, public, unambiguous acceptance of Israel’s right to exist.

I realize that negotiations on a Palestinian state will be arduous, and many Palestinians think that only the threat of terror can force Israel to make concessions on such difficult issues as Jerusalem and the right to return. They may think that, but they’re wrong - terror actually only hardens Israel’s determination not to give in.

In any case, they’ve tried terror and they’ve tried terror and they’ve tried terror. How’s that working out for them? Why not offer real, permanent peace and see if that works out any better?

Blaming Israel for Gaza’s distress is only partially fair. It ignores that nothing is stopping Hamas from trying something different. Nothing, that is, but Hamas’s own vile anti-Semitism.

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By June, August 22, 2007 at 11:18 am Link to this comment
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The notion that any square inch of terra firma is “sacred” and therefore justifies killing or being killed should be laughed out of existenc along with the spurious “holy” books on which it is predicated.  The Judeo/Christian “Bible” chronicles, particularly in the Old Testament, a shameful pastiche of treachery, bloodshed, deceit and obscenity all orchestrated by a “God” that changes his mind willy-nilly, rues former mistakes and then repeats them, arranges for the violation of his own commandments, and punishes the innocent by the thousands for the sins of one individual.  A real role model.  One, apparently, that many humans have taken to heart.  Even the “Prince of Peace” said he came not to bring peace but the sword.  He succeeded.

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By Robert, August 22, 2007 at 9:06 am Link to this comment

JEWISH TERRORIST WANTED BY THE BRITISH

CHECK OUT THE “WANTED LIST” AND SEE IF YOU CAN RECOGNIZE MENACHEM BEGIN and YIZTHAK SHAMIR’S PHOTOS.

FOUR (4) OF ISRAEL’S PRIME MINISTERS WERE TERRORISTS AND HEADED JEWISH TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS:

BEN GURION, MENACHEM BEGIN, YITZHAK SHAMIR, ARIEL SHARON.

THE IRGUN Z’VAI LEUMI WERE RESPONSIBLE THE MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIAN WOMEN, CHILDREN, BRITISH OFFICERS AND PALESTINIAN JEWS. THEY BLEW UP THE KING DAVID HOTEL WHICH KILLED 91 INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is the link & check out the Jewish Terorist photo list:

http://www.palestineremembered.com/images/IsraeliJewishTerroristsWanted.html

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By TheOmegaMan, August 22, 2007 at 8:03 am Link to this comment

Gosh, if only the Gazans would have used the green houses left behind by the Israelis for something other than terror ops.  But, of course the Israelis are to blame for making the Gazans feel so bad about themselves.  Just because a government is “democratically” elected does not mean others have to support it, whether in Gaza or the West Bank.
Oh where oh where is Farfur when we need him, I forgot a bad Israeli beat him to death on his kiddie show.  Bad Israeli.

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By GodSend, August 22, 2007 at 7:53 am Link to this comment

driving bear:

You are leaving circular treadmarks in the woods!

The Jews were banished into exile (Diaspora) by Yahweh and don’t have a home. They’re not supposed to have a home! Ask any Torah Jew (like the Neturei Karta Jews).

Haven’t you heard of the ‘eternal wandering Jew’?

Now that they’ve rebelled against Yahweh (yet again) by conspiring and murdering to take Palestine away from their rightful owners by creating that Rogue State Israel (that Zionist Herzl and his followers), they’ve turned it into a haven for criminals and the ‘Synagogue of Satan’!

What would you expect Yahweh to do about this, huh?

He already said what He would do about ‘the rebellious house of Israel’ - MELT them in His furnace (Ezekiel). How come Yahweh knew this would happen hundreds of years ago? He’s OMNISCIENT, remember!? He’s also OMNIPOTENT, so nobody can stop Him. He’s also VERY insistent that His Word be kept. As soon as He says it, it’s guaranteed to happen - it’s just a matter of time. There are only seconds left (God’s seconds) before “Game Over”! smile

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By Guiseppe, August 22, 2007 at 6:09 am Link to this comment
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The freaking jews/zionists should be sent to the moon. There, they can’t fuck up the Earth.

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By Peter RV, August 22, 2007 at 5:00 am Link to this comment
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Ref.#96261 Driving Bear
Guess what.
Kosovo is the country of origin of the Serbs.
Why did your Clintonian Jews bomb Serbia to smitherns to hand Kosovo over to the separatists albanians ,who,incidentally, were tagged as terrorists by our so wise Congress?
Would you be interested in asking the eminent Jewish scholar ,Daniel Goldhagen (now in hiding) if the gentlemen would consider applying his theory of ‘the loss of moral right to sovereinity’ to Israel, as he did to Serbia?
It would be fun to apply ‘water-boarding’ to Goldhagen until he gives us an unequivocal answer (i.e. stripped of the usual rant of antisemitism etc)

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By driving bear, August 21, 2007 at 10:16 pm Link to this comment

Godsend
Guess What
Israel is the country of origin of the Jews
The Jews going back home is a good Idea which the Jews got over 100 years ago.

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By GodSend, August 21, 2007 at 9:31 pm Link to this comment

If Theodor Herzl could SEE! (not likely) how his fairy tale wish for a Jewish homeland has come true, he would turn over in his grave and say “Wir wollen es nicht!” (Never Again!) or “Oy veh - what a schlamassel” or “Me and my big mouth - that was one of the worst ideas I ever had - the Diaspora was better!”.

Why does the world hate Israel? They hate them for their Chutzpah! - and indiscriminate bloodletting, just for starters wink

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By GodSend, August 21, 2007 at 9:15 pm Link to this comment

driving bear:

You’re deep and lost in the woods with your personal history of Israel. I bet your life is full of similar fantasies. wink

Who gave the UN ownership of the land? Did they get clear title from the Palestinians who lived there because they got tired of owning and living on their land? Did the British have clear title? Did Lawrence of Arabia give it to them? The Palestinians lived there (along with some Jews and Christians) for hundreds of years.

The Israelis should go back to their countries of origin - IF they have a ‘Right of Return’ and didn’t burn their bridges behind them! smile

Meanwhile, Yahweh’s furnace is getting hotter.

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By driving bear, August 21, 2007 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment

God send

You need a little history lesson
In 1947 The UN approved a Plan to divide the holy land with 82% going to the palestinians and 18 %
to the Jews / Israel.
The Palestinian rejected the plan and demanded all of the holy land and started a 1948-49 war which they lost. After the 1949 ceasefire the Palestinians controlled 27% and Israel 73%.In 49 Israel offered to accept the ceasefire line as the final border. The palestinians and the arab nations refused to accept this. In 1967 the palestinians restarted the conflict by shelling west Jerusalem ( the jewish side) and the Egyptians blockade of the jewish port of Elate on the red sea. A blockade is a act of war under international law. After the 1967 6 day war the UN passed resolution 242 which called for the final border to be negotiated . Then the arabs attacked again in 73 and lost again.
So at this point if Israel gives the palestinian anything it would be too much

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By Dawn, August 21, 2007 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment
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Not wanting to comment on the politics of it all but did want to suggest that including infant formula as a necessity is misguided. In an environment where water and power supplies are often disrupted and where continuity of supply is an issue use of infant formula is very dangerous. Unfortunately it seems that in Gaza, some aid agencies are bringing it in and distributing it for free…trouble is women who would otherwise breastfeed use it (formula feeding is an aspirational activity in much of the world) and then when the supplies run out or their babies become ill they and their babies are in a desperate position! 
Check out the Emergency Nutrition Network website for more details. This is a huge problem. People who want to help are harming. The general public needs to know how to help!

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By GodSend, August 21, 2007 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment

driving bear:

The Israelis got what they wished for: A homeland for the Zionists and Palestinian land! - lots of it (and a big wall to keep out the vermin). Unfortunately, they got their hands bloody, ripping it out of the hands of Palestinians. Not only that, they got Yahweh mightily Pissed Off in the process - so now they’ll have to SEE HIS wish come true: Melting in His furnace. Oy veh!

Be careful what you wish for! wink

Get off the road and go back in the woods! Find a cave and hibernate. wink

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By driving bear, August 21, 2007 at 12:09 pm Link to this comment

Guess the Palestinian never learned the truth of the old expression be careful what you you wish for because you might just get it. The palestinian in Gaza got what they wanted a Gaza free of Israel and they failed in governance of it. It is not Israel or the international community duty to provide for Gaza.

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By Peter RV, August 21, 2007 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
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I hate to go after Chris Hedges, who is one of my favourite reporters on the TruthDig, when his heart is always in the right place. When he is factually wrong, however, he should stand to be corrected just like all the rest of us.
Well, his knowledge of the War in the Balkans is nothing being short of catastrophic. He sounds as though he’s never read anything beyond the pages of the NYT.
The origin of the Balkan conflict, as far as the US is concerned, was hatched at Harward University. A certain Jewish professor, by name of Daniel Goldhagen, who has reached certain fame with his book “Hitler’s Willing Executioners”, had decided that the ambiguity of ‘who is right and who is wrong’ in that conflict, should be lifted immediately and Serbs declared unfit to rule themselves. Serbian State should be supressed immediately and an Occupation Regime , similar to the one in the post-Hitler Germany should be kept until all traces of Serbian Nationalism disappeared.(History books,of course, should be re-written etc.)
Goldhagen would have become a laughing stock, if it wasn’t for the ear he had in the White House. As a matter of fact, he had lots of ears there listening to him.
Madlaine Albright ( yes, the very same one who thought it was worth killing half a million of Iraqi kids to damage Saddam’s reputation) liked the plan immediately and set to work on an ultimatum to the Serbs to surrender their sovereinity. That came in Rambouillet (nr Paris). Plan worked and Serbs had to reject it, which provoked a most savage bombing in Europe since WWII. As it is well known, Serbs abandoned Kosovo after 78 days and nights of air raids, but they saved the sovereignity of Serbia.
Things didn’t quite work as Goldhagen imagined and Kosovo is still one of the potentially explosive place on the planet.
Goldhagen is a very priviliged and respected Jewish Scholar, but there is no chance in the World that somebody will ask him how he plans to solve Palestinian ‘problem’.

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By GodSend, August 21, 2007 at 8:58 am Link to this comment

Murdering and forcing or scaring Palestinians off their land; preventing pregnant Palestinian women from reaching hospitals to deliver their babies, bulldozing an American peace protester, shooting Arab children and babies, walling out Palestinians from their land and starving them, poisoning wells and withholding water, developing nukes on the sly, destroying Palestinian homes and olive orchards, withholding international financial aid from Palestinians, assassinating Palestinian political opponents with rocket attacks, undermining legitimately elected Palestinian governments (Hamas), carrying out ‘false-flag’ operations against America (9/11, USS Liberty, etc.), assassinating American politicians (JFK, Paul Wellstone), blackmailing and bribing American politicians and officials (‘Israel Lobby’, Abramoff), dropping cluster bombs on Lebanese civilians after a cease-fire has been agreed, rebelling against Yahweh’s authority and Diaspora punishment, etc.

Yahweh will NOT negotiate with Israeli Zionists under these conditions! - BUT He WILL melt them! - and THEN accept sincere repentance by the survivors, if any (Ezekiel).

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By Howard, August 21, 2007 at 8:23 am Link to this comment

Not a single word in this article about Hamas’ policy of eradicating Israel !  Not a single word about rockets daily coming from the Gaza strip into Israel.  Israel cannot negotiate with such conditions.

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By adamjohn12, August 21, 2007 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

Sorry, I should have added, his comments in reference to this start at the 2 min mark…

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By adamjohn12, August 21, 2007 at 8:07 am Link to this comment

Slavoj Zizek offers a nice context for this (the whole lecture is good - but the below part is mostly dealing with this conflict)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y25P3IRzq-g&mode=related&search;=

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By Verne Arnold, August 21, 2007 at 7:11 am Link to this comment

Addendum #2:

Oh, be still, this is short.  Truthdig has already lost many fine posters because of censureship…give them a forum for crying out loud!

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By Verne Arnold, August 21, 2007 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

Addendum:

Robert Scheer,

Why don’t you create a separate “chat room” for those that want to debate and share information?

Despite my previous comments, I do see a healthy debate as a good thing.  I cannot use the default email for “truthdig” so I will post my suggestion here.  Given that I have been censured previously, I will trust “they” are reading this.  Think about it…become a “happening thing”...you do have some great posters here!

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By Verne Arnold, August 21, 2007 at 6:37 am Link to this comment

This is just “American Policy Redux”.  It smacks of us allover.  It’s history revisited and if people weren’t dying…it would be boring.  The Palestinian issue will go on forever and it will be used as an excuse to keep the assasinations by Israel going.  Starve them, kill them, humiliate them, dominate them, exploit them…and finally kill them…genocide…the “final solution”. 

This site is boring.  This site is a graveyard.  It’s where all the impotent whiners and snivelers go.  It makes you feel good to express you’re impotent outrage…hell, you can mis-state your facts with impunity.  This site should create a chatroom, because that’s what it is.  Leave the comments for the articles…ON POINT!  And then go to the chat room for your ongoing debate…afterall, thats what ya’all really want to do.  Talk each other to death.  So do it there!  In a chat room!  You’ll be safe from actually doing anything for real change.

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By weather, August 21, 2007 at 3:44 am Link to this comment

Jeremy - poke yourself for you’re in full flight from reality. The political state of Israel is a Global disgrace.

While this sad, dark and selfish pathology is a indeliable Israeli dynamic, its infected us now too and that is tragic.

If you love Israel fly there and fix it, because they’ve been lying all along to themselves, to you and to America - so thick and well developed the denial, Freud himself could cut it w/a chainsaw.

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By jeremy, August 21, 2007 at 12:51 am Link to this comment

So, I am an Israeli Jew and I have a confession:

You see, I have a terrible addiction that so many of us Jews share: eating Palestinian babies. My favorite is to grind them up with my tank treads, then marinate them overnight in the guts of fresh martyr - and it has to be fresh, none of those week-old wall scrapings, and then fry ‘em up on the engine of my F-15. Mmmmm-MM! That’s good baby! And the martyr really kicks it up a notch!

Truthfully, It wouldn’t be so bad, it’s just it takes so much time, finding the babies, stealing the babies, cooking the babies - I hardly have any left over to rule the world with the other Jews.

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Hedges ain’t nuthin but a 2-bit skeezah, a hack if you will. A hizz-ack! All should follow him who fancy themselves Jew-haters, hiztorical distortionists, sensationalist snatch-hounds and skip skap scallywags.

One thing I will say though, when Hedges is writing, the freaks sure do come out to play…(you know, like the ones in the white pointy hoods)

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By GodSend, August 20, 2007 at 10:07 pm Link to this comment

felicity:

Bullseye! smile

Unless those millions of non-Zionist American Jews wake up soon and DO something about Zionist ‘Regime Change’ in Israel ( as well as ‘neutralizing’ the ‘Israel Lobby’ ), they may not want to wake up when the other 294,000,000 Americans finally wake up to what those Zionists have been ‘up to’ (9/11, USS Liberty attack, JFK assassination, Paul Wellstone ‘accidenting’, rigging elections, all sorts of blackmail - including nuclear, stealing trillions from the Pentagon, engineering the ‘Grand Depression (Credit Bubble), etc.! wink

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By Rabbit, August 20, 2007 at 9:23 pm Link to this comment
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It’s not apartheid anymore. It’s become genocide.

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By Robert, August 20, 2007 at 7:22 pm Link to this comment

Germans protest sale of food from West Bank settlements

Last update - 08:33 19/08/2007 | Haaretz
By Assaf Uni, Haarerz Correspondent

BERLIN - The opening of “Israel Week” at the Galeria Kaufhof department store in Berlin spurred a demonstration Saturday against Israeli food products originating in the territories.

Protesters held signs reading “No to settlement products” and “Stop the Israel-EU Association Agreement.”

Groups protesting included The Jewish Voice, a Jewish-German organization opposed to the occupation, and Solidarity with Palestine, German teenagers affiliated with the radical left.

A counter-group of pro-Israel radical leftists waved Israeli flags and ate Israeli food.

“We have to encourage the Germans to be more critical of the Israeli occupation,” said Ruth Fructman, a Berlin journalist who was demonstrating.

“Right now it’s still hard for them, especially because every time they criticize Israel, they’re accused of anti-Semitism,” she said.

Martin Vorberg, of the Middle Eastern Workgroup, said the demonstration was aimed at Osem Industries, which he said has a factory in the territories, and spices from Amnon and Tamar, a company located in Alfei Menashe.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=1177

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By SickAndTired, August 20, 2007 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment

I know this solution would never work, but I just wish the whole Gaza Strip could be given to Egypt.  Let it be their problem.  Kick Israel out.  Are there not still “refugee” camps in Egypt?  Other countries have autonomous regions.  Free movements of people and goods could have many advantages.  OK.  Sorry.  Just dreaming.

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By Peter RV, August 20, 2007 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment
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Chris Hedges comparing Gaza with Sarajevo is pretty shaky.
  l. Sarajevo’s surroundings which were deffended by Serbs (quite ferrociously) belonged to Serbian ethnic zone.
  2.Sarajevo’s Muslim Government was trying equally ferrociously to control them.
  3.Sarajevo’s siege was never really complete since
neither electricity nor water were cut and, the supplys by air were pouring in from all sides.
  4. Muslim Government of Sarajevo was never declared terrorist, despite the fact that few thousands of AL Gueda fighters were under its command until the end of the conflict ( some of them ended up in Guantanamo, others are still there)
  5. The U.S.A. bombed the Serbs to break their siege.
  6. Jews in Clinton’s administration such as Madlaine Albright, Sandy Berger,Richard Cohen,Richard Hallbrook, Wesley Clark etc, were insrtumental to bringing Serbs to their knees.
  7. There was always, during the siege, a parade of artists and Jewish intellectuals passing through Sarajevo, giving the public support for the Bosnian Muslim Government (Joan Baez, Bernard Henry-Levy etc).
  8. The whole Western Press and the Communication Media were staunchly and constantly against the Serbs, whose war crimes (sometimes grossly exagerated)were told and re-told, countless of times, with constant encouragement for a military intervention against them.
  9. The UN sanctions were imposed on Serbs as punishment for their behaviour.
  10. Soon afterwards, Serbia itself was devastated by Clinton’s bombing, for refusing to hand over Kosovo, where it was accused of a massive ethnic cleansing of its Muslim population.
  It would be really interesting to hear Chris Hedges commentaries on above points

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By P. T., August 20, 2007 at 4:49 pm Link to this comment

These methods are as American as apple pie.  Similar ones were used against American Indians.

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By omop, August 20, 2007 at 2:06 pm Link to this comment

It should become completely apparent even to a blind individual that the intent of the US and Israel is the creation of “palestenian ghetto villages strung helter skelter”, excepting for the area of the West Bank that Israel does not intend to give up and calling such an agglomoratiom a Palestenian State.

By pursuing this socalled “road to peace and/or the peace process” in line with israeli views the US would be hastening its own downfall.

While following a socalled Project for a New World Order the US has signed as a pseudo-colonial power along with the likudniks/neocons view of the Middle East that if completely implemented signals the end of US having any influence in the region and the emergence of a non-colonial grouping of Asia nations putting such US policies in a tight corner.

The US’s option is to cut off the umbilical cord tying US/Israeli machinations or suffer further impotence and eventual complete degradation as a world power.

The primal issue facing the US is its stature, strength, prestige and influences . And that is a question of life and death for the US as a prime world power and in this regard Israeli policies are or rather must be of no consequence whatsoever.

If the US follows the Israeli goals then the die is definitely cast as to who will be the prime movers and shakers in that region of the world. With the two principal actors being Russia and China and associated Asian nations.

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By felicity, August 20, 2007 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

I’ve got to ask, where are the millions of Jews who deplore the policies, and acts of the present Israeli government?  Where are your spokesmen?  Why aren’t you storming the MSM demanding to be heard?

I know you’re out there.  Remaining silent, the hatred of Jews continues to grow because ignorant people do not distinguish between Jews and the state of Israel.

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By GodSend, August 20, 2007 at 11:49 am Link to this comment

Non Credo:

It’s perfectly OK and commendable to hate Zionist Israel (and boycott 729). Remember that it’s ZIONIST Israel - there could be a non-Zionist Israel. It’s up to responsible Jews in Israel, America and the world to try and create one! It’s the trying that matters - not necessarily the succeeding!

Hating Zionist Israel is the same as hating the Devil! It’s the Christian thing to do to hate the Devil (and his worshipers). Heck, it’s the human thing to do, even if you’re not a Follower of Christ.

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By P. T., August 20, 2007 at 11:38 am Link to this comment

Zionists have a history of genocide, and not just against the Palestinian people.  To read about Zionist collaboration with the Nazis, click http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner1223.html

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By The Real Progressive, August 20, 2007 at 10:16 am Link to this comment
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God, I hate the Gazan Arabs.

They freely chose a genocidal terror organization to lead them. And what’s more, most non-Islamists recognize the ideological dead-end of Hamas and their brothers-in-Jihad like Al Qaeda for what they are. Screw ‘em all. The world doesn’t need more Islamists, Palestinian Arab terrorists, and other threats to liberty and freedom.

Great. Let them lead into the sewers where they belong as long as they insist on making war instead of peace with their neighbors.

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By ocjim, August 20, 2007 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

“Starving Gaza” is also the time-worn story of American policy toward Cuba, Iraq before the war, North Korea and Iran. In effect, we starve the innocent people whom we unite in hate against us, providing an easy target, feeding on their misery. The leaders who are our real target have the power and resources to get whatever they want. It’s mainly the innocent people who suffer. The Israelis have not learned from past mistakes. All this does is breed intense hatred, fulminating in suicide bombings and general unrest.

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By Scott, August 20, 2007 at 9:37 am Link to this comment

Whatever it is, its probably not anything that Zionists would want others to do unto them.

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By GodSend, August 20, 2007 at 8:48 am Link to this comment

Israeli Zionist ‘ethnic cleansing’ of Palestinians at work. A page copied out of the Nazis’ book! They are adding new and gruesome chapters daily.

“Zionism is Nazism” (True Torah Jews)

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