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Rove’s Science of Dirty Tricks

Posted on Aug 14, 2007

By Amy Goodman

Karl Rove’s resignation as deputy White House chief of staff cements the political future of the waning Bush administration. George W. will have little to do except wield his veto pen; he doesn’t need the steadying hand of Rove for that, or his strategic insight. As Rove joins the ranks of discredited politicians who resign “in order to spend more time with family,” a retrospective of his dirty tricks might be in order. Much is attributed to Rove, dubbed “Bush’s Brain” by Texas journalists Wayne Slater and James Moore—yet very little sticks to the man. Bearing in mind that we presume innocence until guilt is proved, read on:

  —In 1970, College Republican Rove stole letterhead from the Illinois Democratic campaign of Alan Dixon and used it to invite hundreds of people to Dixon’s headquarters opening, promising “free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing,” disrupting the event.

  —In 1973, Rove ran for chair of the College Republicans. He challenged the front-runner’s delegates, throwing the national convention into disarray, after which both he and his opponent, Robert Edgeworth, claimed victory. The dispute was resolved when Rove was selected through the direct order of the chairman of the Republican National Committee, who at the time was none other than George H.W. Bush.

  —In 1986, while working for Texas Republican gubernatorial hopeful William Clements, Rove claimed that Rove’s personal office had been bugged, most likely by the campaign of incumbent Democratic Gov. Mark White. Nothing was proved, but the negative press, weeks before the election, helped Rove’s man win a narrow victory. FBI agent Greg Rampton removed the bug, disrupting any attempt to properly investigate who planted it.

  —When Rove was an adviser for George W. Bush’s 1994 race for governor of Texas against Democratic incumbent Ann Richards, a persistent whisper campaign in conservative East Texas wrongly suggested that Richards was a lesbian. According to Texas journalist Lou Dubose: “No one ever traced the character assassination to Rove. Yet no one doubts that Rove was behind it. It’s a process on which he holds a patent. Identify your opponent’s strength, and attack it so relentlessly that it becomes a liability. Richards was admired because she promised and delivered a ‘government that looked more like the people of the state.’ That included the appointment of blacks, Hispanics and gays and lesbians. Rove made that asset a liability.”

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  —After John McCain thumped George W. Bush in the 2000 New Hampshire primary, with 48 percent of the vote to Bush’s 30 percent, a massive smear campaign was launched in South Carolina, a key battleground. TV attack ads from third groups and anonymous fliers circulated, variously suggesting that McCain’s experience as a prisoner of war in Vietnam had left him mentally scarred with an uncontrollable temper, that his wife, Cindy, abused drugs, and that he had an African-American “love child.” In fact, the McCains adopted their daughter Bridget from a Bangladesh orphanage run by Mother Teresa.

  —According to the investigation of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Rove played a central role in the outing of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame to columnist Robert Novak and former Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, in retaliation for the accusation by her husband, Joe Wilson, that the Bush administration falsely claimed Saddam Hussein had sought uranium in Niger.

  —Rove has ignored subpoenas to testify before Congress about the Justice Department scandal stemming from the firing of nine U.S. attorneys. He skipped a hearing on improper use of Republican National Committee e-mail accounts by White House staffers that allowed them to skirt the Presidential Records Act. Rove claims he enjoys executive privilege, which travels with him as he leaves the White House.

  These are but some of the dirty tricks attributed to Karl Rove. We are to believe that Rove, born Christmas Day, 1950, is retiring to write books. Former Texas Agriculture Commissioner and populist firebrand Jim Hightower describes Rove’s departure as “a rat jumping off a sinking ship.” But arch-Rove watcher Wayne Slater of The Dallas Morning News knows better. He notes that Rove and his wife have built a house in the Florida Panhandle—the “Republican Riviera”—and that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush will be 59 in 2012, a ripe age for a run for the White House. Regardless, the art and science of the political dirty tricks, learned by Rove in the Nixon years and perfected by him in the George W. Bush White House, will be with us for years to come.
 
Denis Moynihan provided research assistance on today’s column.
 
Amy Goodman is the host of “Democracy Now!,” a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on 500 stations in North America.

 
© 2007 Amy Goodman

  Distributed by King Features Syndicate


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By Nitro, August 21, 2007 at 9:20 pm Link to this comment

Looks like there are 3 of us now being black listed…

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By John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming, August 21, 2007 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment
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Amy is close to perfect, but no quite.  She has turned a blind eye on 911 and on Israel’s possible role in the stunt.

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By Jon, August 21, 2007 at 9:34 am Link to this comment

I appreciate D.Katz’s(#95004) straight foward analysis of what is going on. 

Whether what is happening now has happened before or not, does not negate the need for Amy Goodman’s reporting of it now.  As usual, I learn something from Amy Goodman’s column. 

It is hard not to express praise for what she offers because she always seems to add something informative relevant and constructive to the current discussion of what is going on, espescially in the face of so much nonsense out there.

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By cyrena, August 20, 2007 at 11:11 pm Link to this comment

Does anybody know what might have become of Ernest Canning? His posts stopped about a month ago. Maybe longer. Was he the first blacklist?

Just curious. 9-11 truthdog just posted a short message, suggesting that it appeared to him that he too was being blacklisted now.

Like I said…just wondering.

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By John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming, August 20, 2007 at 10:25 pm Link to this comment
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I’m sorry, but I just can’t see a blow job as political at all, at least until the Republicans decided to use it.  I still think Monica was promised a show on Fox if she managed to seduce Clinton.  Blow job?  Snow job?  Only an American could confuse the two.

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By dantinak, August 20, 2007 at 9:05 pm Link to this comment

This is a pretty good, kind of one sided, history of Rove and American politics.  The only thing wrong is Goodman makes the reader think this is something that never has happened in American politics before.  On the other hand I think this is one more chapter of how dirty politics in America can be.  Whether it is J Edgar Hoover doing illegal wiretapping during the civil rights era, Nixon and all the monkey business he did, Regan with Iran Contra, Clinton with Monica, the list goes on and on and we haven’t even looked back more than 50 years.  I enjoyed reading Goodman’s article, I would hope she puts out a book detailing the history of dirty politics in America.  That would be a fun read, by a good writer.

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By YIKES, August 20, 2007 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment

Once again, thank you Amy Goodman for another well written article.  As in past decades where there was one voice that America could turn to hear the truth, our attention now turns to you.  Keep up the good work,,,,please.

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By John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming, August 20, 2007 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment
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Peasants love storybook crooks like Brer Rabbit.  Crooks like Rove know how to exploit this weakness for entertainment.  Most Americans just laugh at Rove’s political maneuvers.  The problem lies in our social and cultural institutions.  They are the outhouse that breeds most of the flies.

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By cyrena, August 20, 2007 at 11:29 am Link to this comment

Louise,

This pretty much wraps it up. Thanks for the inspiration. I was running out of descriptives. smile.


...“Must just be more Dumbya/Rove style deceitful,
delusory, double-dealing, falsifying and fibbing. Inventing misleading, misrepresenting and misstating, perfidious, prevarication, with roguish, shifty, treacherous, tricky, two-faced, unreliable, untruthful, wrong!”

Whhhew ...

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By Louise, August 20, 2007 at 10:48 am Link to this comment

I keep reading and hearing Dumbya and Rove are “childhood” friends.

How could this be?
Rove was born in Denver and grew up in Colorado, Utah and Nevada.

Dumbya was born in Connecticut and grew up in Texas and Connecticut.

[At least rumor has it they both grew up]

Does this “childhood friends” refer to the boys at thirty-something?

Or are we to accept they are indeed trapped in “eternal” childhood? Hopelessly lost in “two-ism.”

That period in the normal child’s development when the two-year-old really does believe they are the center of the Universe.

No, that cant be.

Otherwise they would always be fighting over their toys!

Must just be more Dumbya/Rove style deceitful,
delusory, double-dealing, falsifying and fibbing. Inventing misleading, misrepresenting and misstating, perfidious, prevarication, with roguish, shifty, treacherous, tricky, two-faced, unreliable, untruthful, wrong!

Whhhew ...

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By John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming, August 20, 2007 at 8:35 am Link to this comment
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Rove is a crook like so many other Republicans.  He is adept at cultivating human weakness and running protection rackets.

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By Alice Nuffer, August 19, 2007 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
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Rove has taught his child these values, slime it, steal it,
destroy it and it shall be yours with no consequences!
I am not religious but I do believe there is a God and he has set a nice warm place in hell for Karl Rove, Bush and Cheney! May we live to see the day!!!

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By cyrena, August 16, 2007 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

#95386 by ldb on 8/16 at 7:09 am
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He is also leaveing because the investigative fires are gettting to close.  If he is out of sight, he hopes the desire to fry him will deminish.

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Indeed 1db,

This has a whole lot to do with it. Because, while the Congress as a whole may not “appear” to be doing anything to counter the continuing bullying by the shrub, there are in fact enough “public servants” within the ranks, to still be working very diligently on this.

They may not be talking a whole lot about it, because this is the kind of work that they just have to do. It’s grunt work, and it takes a while, and it’s taken extra long, since the Mob has had everything locked-up and covered-up for years.

So, the putting together of all of that work is tedious and time consuming, and we all want to see more immediate action of course, on SO MANY fronts.

And, we should. But, we also have to keep in mind that the work is actually being done, and it’s only a matter of time, (as was with Nixon) before they have it enough in order, to bring down the whole Cabal.

The gangsters know that, and that’s why we see them slipping out of sight.

I would feel better if they made Rove hand over his passport, but needless to say, that would be nothing more than a little “feel-good” symbol/token action to tide me over until the real fireworks are ready to come out in a court of law. smile

Besides, it wouldn’t make any difference. You know he’ll be able to slip away if it comes to that, and we’ll end up having to hunt him down and get him extradited back.

All this drama. I’ve had enough.

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By ldb, August 16, 2007 at 8:09 am Link to this comment

He is also leaveing because the investigative fires are gettting to close.  If he is out of sight, he hopes the desire to fry him will deminish.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 8:17 pm Link to this comment

Cyrena
Thanks for the links.
Your analysis of things makes as much sense as any I’ve read or heard, and a lot more than some. (Glad that Godsend and Earl finally gave up—no responses take all the fun out of it for their types)
I really can’t explain nor understand what the Democratic leadership, such as it is, is thinking. It certainly isn’t thinking of what is best for this country and its citizens.
And that is one big disappointment.

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment

Ok Farmetx,

I checked on that link, (and even searched around for several minutes) but I never found anything other than what was apparently the same sort of blurb that you saw. So, that’s all there was to it. I didn’t find a longer story, or a video, or anything to go with it. So, there’s just that short paragraph, which really doesn’t say much, (which isn’t surprising) and so that leaves it all rather “ambiguous” which might be intentional

Meantime, I did find a couple of pieces that are in line with that general theme…Republicans jumping ship faster than they can load up on oxygen.

I’m not the only one who thinks they might be headed out of dodge.

Hastert May Be Leaving Congress
  Mike Flannery
  CBS News

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081507O.shtml

  RNC Now Seeks Shelter of Executive Privilege
  By Jason Leopold
  t r u t h o u t | Report

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081407A.shtml

Michael Winship:
The Jaundiced Rove of Texas
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081407B.shtml

In this one, Michael Winship seems to come to the same conclusions I have. Rove’s probably running from the law. And if HE is, then we know there could be a whole bunch of others of them, very much afraid that they could be on the hit list as well.

They’re just like any other mob of rodents or roaches. They feast and do their most destructive handiwork only under cover of darkness. Shine a light on them unexpectedly, and they all scatter to run off, never bothering to check on their fellow rodents, because at this point, it’s every rat/roach for himself.

So, Rove is STILL under subpoena, and of course he still hasn’t testified, dodging by way of executive privilege. (and, I’m very sure that in his own mind, he’s perfectly legitimate in calling executive privilege, because he DOES see himself that way.)Still, everyone else that might be even remotely informed on the law and the purposes of the Constitution, would probably figure out that Rove has been playing that dangerous game for a long time, and that it was bound to blow up in his face.

On the other hand, Republicans so far, have still been reluctant to do a full scale criticism, or what they even need to do for “the party” since I’ve long been convinced that none of them care about the voters, beyond their votes. So, that’s odd to me. I saw the Republican Party beginning to crash and burn so long ago, and I assumed they would get wise to the shrub, (as well as rove) and do something, just because…well…now they’ve crashed and burned.

Oh the other hand, not all of them apparently feel that way, because the dems have been so wimpy and whiny…(you KNOW they should have just left on their recess, and taken up this FISA thing when they came back, instead of letting the shrub tell them that they had to “stay in detention” until they produced what he wanted. I’m still just knocked over by that. So, it stands to reason that the repubs wouldn’t much worry about taking george down, if they aren’t getting any resistance from the rest of Congress about him.

So, I don’t know what the hell to think, other than that I’m still holding on to the possibility that it might just be the shrub and condi left alone, while everyone else has bailed out.

Or…maybe just Condi. Now would’t THAT be a twisted outcome? Still, she’s the only one still right there. And, if rove’s not living there any longer, who else is gonna get the shrub up and shaved and dressed and stuff, and make sure that he’s not by himself at any point during the day or night, where he could pull something stupid, or cheney could talk him into using the code.

In these past 7 years, much stranger things have happened.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

Cyrena
Not sure. They were described as Republican reformer’s. Here is the link

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/08/15/republican_leadership_may_face_test.html

I am on dial up out here, plus this old ‘puter has an out-dated grahics card that just about means no video’s. I tried to access this but it was just taking too long to load. ‘Preciate it if you’d let me know what they were upset about.

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

Saw a blurb on Spotback saying that some GOP Senator’s are considering going public with their frustration with Shrub. ‘Bout time.
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So Farmertx,

I get your point. Now, on the blub that you caught, it brings me back to what I’ve been expecting for so long now, but still hasn’t happened.

Remember when the deputies, (I don’t remember their names now) but Nixon’s guys. They finally made the long walk, to tell him that it was over. Plain and simple. It had come to that, and it was time to go. He had no options.

I don’t get why that hasn’t happened yet. The repercussions for the Republican party have LONG been visible. I mean, what did the last election say? Did they not realize how this was going to destroy the entire party? (not that I care, since I hate republicans anyway). But still, I would have assumed that they would have done something about the shrub as well as cheney, (though THAT might take a whole team, to wrestle him down, and tie him up). But, it wouldn’t take that much to deal with the boy, if somebody would just DO it!!

But, I know we’re not gonna get off that easily. Even Nixon was only a few hours away from the trials of his impeachment, before they took the long walk, to tell him he had to surrender.

Still…let’s hope. Have you heard any Republicans complaining about the rewriting of the Constitution, or are they primarily only focused on the fact that he’s plunged out economy into endless debt?

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By Verne Arnold, August 15, 2007 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

Oops, Niel and Jeb, I stand corrected. Thanks.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 4:40 pm Link to this comment

Cyrena
Didn’t mean to imply that dad was great, but that he was not near as bad as Shrub as President.
While we all read his lips about no new taxes, he did acknowledge reality and ‘enhanced’ taxes. GOP must love Roget for all the alternative words.
Shrub just wants to spend. Let the grandkids worry about repayment.
Dad had sense enough to stay out of Iraq. A position that the Shootist embraced, ironically. Too bad his greed overcame common sense.
Saw a blurb on Spotback saying that some GOP Senator’s are considering going public with their frustration with Shrub. ‘Bout time.
Plus Hillary slamming him over no domestic policy.
That really made the Shrub mad. He wanted Tony Snow to display his Allstate policy to refute that. Tony talked him out of that, dammit.
Bottom line, an man that parachuted on his 80th birthday ain’t the sanest man around, so he can be excused for thinking his boy is still something.
We all know better. To our sorrow.

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By johnbo, August 15, 2007 at 4:12 pm Link to this comment
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I did some similiar research but only covered the early years of Rove’s career.  It fills in a few holes you all might be interested to see:

As a political operative, Karl Rove has been a criminal from his first day when, as a nineteen-year-old, he posed as a campaign worker to steal 1000 sheets of paper with the letterhead of a Democrat opponent on which he sent out disinformation that helped disrupt a rally. He gamed the Selective Service system with student deferments to avoid the draft but eventually lost his student deferment becoming 1-A, or draft-ready. Somehow, six months later, that status was change to 1-H, meaning “Deferred, aged 28 or over”. Rove was 20 at the time and never served in the military.

He became the Executive Director of the College Republicans and then, with the help of dirty trickster Lee Atwater, “won” the race for National Director when, using his position as Executive Director, he and his team re-wrote the rules during the campaign for National Director and then challenged the credentials of his opponent’s delegates at the convention. The resulting contested election had to be decided by George H.W. Bush, then Chairman of the Republican National Committee, who eventually awarded the position to Rove. But, not before one of Rove’s angry opponents released a tape recording to The Washington Post of several training seminars for Young Republicans where Rove discussed campaign techniques that included rooting through opponents’ garbage cans. Rove was reputed to have been involved in crimes such as identity theft, petty larceny, and campaign fraud during that period and the tapes reveal him teaching those “techniques” to College Republicans.  Rove’s opponent,  Robert Edgeworth, was blamed for the leak (it wasn’t him) and said he received the nastiest letter he’d ever gotten in his life from GHW Bush basically excomunicating him from the Republican party for leaking to the Washington Post.  This was a shinning example of Republican values - first he was screwed over by Rove and then reamed by Bush for “leaking”.

A few years later Rove was working on the 1972 campaign of Richard Nixon under the tutelage of Donald Segretti, a member of CREEP (The Committee to Re-elect the President) who ran a campaign of dirty tricks (he called it “ratfucking”) for Nixon which eventually resulted in Segretti being sentenced to prison as one of the Watergate conspirators for distributing forged campaign literature. A central message from that campaign that Rove helped disseminate was that Nixon’s opponent, Senator George McGovern, was a dangerous “left-wing peacenik” despite McGovern’s stint in WWII as a bomber pilot. That attack was similar to attacks Rove drummed up years later challenging Senator John Kerry’s war record while again working for and surrounded by people who, like himself, had avoided military service in the Viet Nam War.

Former Nixon White House Counsel John Dean, who was implicated in the Watergate break-in and became the star witness for the prosecution, has been quoted as saying that “Based on my review of the files, it appears the Watergate prosecutors were interested in Rove’s activities in 1972, but because they had bigger fish to fry they did not aggressively investigate him.”

Rove’s style has always been to laugh at legality. You can achieve many victories when you cheat and Rove hijacking the Justice Department to help steal elections for Republicans is just the latest example. It amazes me that people attribute “genius” to someone who is nothing more than an unscrupulous thug or miss the hypocrisy of someone like Rove working for an Administration that pretends to represent “family values”.

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By GB, August 15, 2007 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment
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D. Katz,
I agree with you 100%
The Democratic politicians could use some of your fire under their pants/skirts.
The republicans are trashing our country and the world.

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

#95125 by farmertx on 8/15 at 9:26 am

•  “Daddy wasn’t great, but he was more than his spawn have turned out to be. Then again, the acorn don’t fall that far from the oak…. Least daddy was man enough to stand up for his country.”

Farmertx,

I’m not so sure about the very last part anymore. Pops standing up for his country that is. Maybe he did back then, to the extent that he didn’t drain the treasury, and knew we needed tax dollars to run the joint, and didn’t extend his own episode of warring on Iraq.

But, I don’t know about now. I read an article the other day, all devoted to how terribly sad it makes him, to have to hear criticisms about his boy. The author must have presumed a supply of tears from the readers, just imagining how broken hearted Pops is, and how this is all just so incredibly hard on his aristocratic heart.

BUT, it goes on to say that while he has sometimes given advice to the boy in the past, he’s always more or less done it in a “reverse psychology” sort of tactic, just hoping that the moron might figure out what he’s doing wrong, by couching it in a way that doesn’t get the boy all upset, and that he might even think is his “own” idea.

Other than that, (and an admission that he too, doesn’t like his neocon advisors) he says that he ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTS his boy; 100% and unconditionally. And, no matter what, he wouldn’t butt in or try to tell the boy what to do, and blah, blah, blah.

Now, THIS is not a man who is still willing to stand up for his country. Because, if he was man enough to do that, (even if he IS 83 years old…that’s NOT an excuse) then he would have WHUPPED THE BOY’S ASS…long, long, ago!!!!

And even NOW, as the body count rises dramatically, day after day, after day, HE could find a way to send the boy away. Set-up an “intervention” or whatever it takes. You know these guys can do this stuff on the QT. Just get him in an asylum, or wherever…they could even hide him at Kennebunport with a round the clock psychiatric staff. And I’m sure they could come up with some sort of reason for his absence.

The bottom line is that if the old dude cared anything at all about his country, he would recognize the enormous damage that the psychopath is doing to our country, and STOP IT!! Seriously.

Instead, he’s acting like a wimpy old dude who cares far more about his Bush legacy than he does about anything else, and can only whine about what are overwhelmingly legitimate criticisms about the boy.

So, I’m pissed at him too.

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By Peter, August 15, 2007 at 2:50 pm Link to this comment
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Many thought that the failed presidency of Bush 41 had damaged the brand forever. Many now think that Bush 43 has damaged the brand beyond repair. But if Jeb wants to run, and the MSM won’t discuss his many scandals…S&L, crooked voting machines, other patronage, then we will have Bush 45, especially with Rove behind the scenes. It’s a very horrifying thought, but well within the bounds of possibility.

This all if Rove and Bush haven’t destroyed the Republican party as a viable operation, which may be evident in the next election.

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By tothehague, August 15, 2007 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment
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Isn’t it Paraguay where GW has bought all that property to run off to so he can avoid the gallows?
Me thinks he will have some company on that far away (with no extradition) land. Spending all the $$ he’s taken from the american serfs.

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By Chris, August 15, 2007 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment
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It’s a pity that he couldn’t be put behind the bars given the above and I hope investigations stay open to get some credible evidence to hold hime accountable, with passing time.

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By carl c., August 15, 2007 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment
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This slime should crawl back under the rock from which he came and stay there.  We have no need for liars, cheaters, thieves and ##%$& in our political system.

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By VietnamVet, August 15, 2007 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

RE: #95004 by D. Katz on 8/14 at 11:12 pm

Good God, Katz…what a rant! But, the more I read, the more I agreed with you. I have not read past your post yet, but I will be looking for the neocon response…should be interesting! One of the best posts I have seen that “sums it up!”

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 11:45 am Link to this comment

#95086 by ocjim on 8/15 at 7:37 am

OCJIM,
Thanks for this excellent expose on the shrub siblings. I’m saving it for my files. The only thing I would point out is on this:

“....Today Neil Bush is working on closing a deal in Florida, where his brother Jeb is governor, to sell a software package to schools with his startup company Ignite.”...

Just a minor correction that really only academic. Jeb is no longer the Gov. of Florida. The new guy is Charlie Crist. (and his web site has little “stars” as the “dots” over the “i’s” in his name. Kind of like the Lone Star of Texas, except that it’s Florida, (and there’s really not a lot of difference in the politicians there).

So, that’s just a minor detail, that Jeb is no longer the Gov. But, it’s interesting, eh? In light of the “chatter” that they may be putting him into place for the 2012 run?

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

I noticed a bunch of good comments on this. Lots of extra info into the tricks and scams that were too much to include in one article.

Verne’s comment lead me to consider though, about whether or not Rove really has been the Shrub’s “brain”, since he’s giving him credit for having HIRED all of these folks to surround himself with, and it’s worked, so maybe the shrub isn’t so dumb after all.

Now Verne, while I can certainly appreciate that very important point in most cases, I’m not sure it applies here. I don’t think that Rove is as much the Shrub’s brain, as he is the Republican Party’s Fixer and organizer. He and the Shrub may have started out as childhood sweethearts, but it would have been Rove that was smart enough to use the Shrub as the symbolic “mascot”, for carrying out the deeds, once he was “officially” in place.

Now of course that’s just a thought. I give anybody a whole lot of credit for trying to find a way to make the Shrub appear like he might not be a total moron. But at the end of the day…he still is. smile

Meantime, here’s an interesting piece. It was OUR $1.6 billion that Karl el al used to lie to us, and brainwash the world.

Bush Administration Spent
$1.6 Billion to Spin the News
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081507K.shtml

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By BG Pelaire, August 15, 2007 at 10:31 am Link to this comment
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Amy, you forgot Rove’s “crushing” former Governor Don Sigelman in Alabama with trumped-up charges, a crooked judge and prosecutors, and Rove’s personal handling of the situation. It’s classic Rove, and part of the huge attempt to politicize the Justice system to keep Republicans (and the military-industrial complex) in perpetual power.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

Thanks ocjim
It was worse than I thought. And that says a lot about the whole bunch.
Daddy wasn’t great, but he was more than his spawn have turned out to be. Then again, the acorn don’t fall that far from the oak.
Least daddy was man enough to stand up for his country. That and his decision not to extend Desert Storm plus his realization that the government has to have some taxes to operate are about the nicest things that I can say about him.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 10:19 am Link to this comment

Re: #95097 by Buzznack on 8/15 at 8:02 am
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The heck of it is, if Rather had reported the real story, that CBS had been given this memo and experts had serious doubts about the authenticity of the memo and upon checking with the secretary of the man alledged to have written the memo, found that he never dictated such a letter, BUT, based on her recollection of his comments, his feelings were the same as those expressed in the memo, that would have been the story. And Dan would still have a job.
And, maybe more folks would have had real doubts much sooner about the Shrub. Doubts that were proven to be based on reality.
But, you are right; this smells of Der Karls’ evil mind.

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By Robert, August 15, 2007 at 9:29 am Link to this comment
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D. Katz, 5 years ago I would’ve never agreed w/ you and told you to stop exaggerating.  I agree w/ you 100% now.  The Republican party is truly the scum of the U.S. Its political reps (the PIGS)have proved it true time and again.

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By Buzznack, August 15, 2007 at 9:02 am Link to this comment

As soon as I heard about the “phony memo,” supposedly written by Bush’s former CO in the Texas Air National Guard, when Dan Rather reported it late in the 2004 campaign, I wondered if it was not the work of the same person who masterminded the 1986 “bug” that Ms. Goodman describes in this post.  (In a comment on another thread, I incorrectly remembered that occurring during one of GWB’s campaigns).  The two “scandals” would seem to have the same fingerprints all over them.  Obviously the 2004 “memo” was “the gift that kept on giving” to Bush and Rove.  Not only did it effectively sideline Bush’s questionable “military” career as a campaign issue; it also convinced CBS to dump Dan Rather.  As I said in my other comment, not bad for a day’s work.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 8:39 am Link to this comment

#95065 by ocjim on 8/15 at 6:50 am
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Scum is always at the top of a pool until you skim it off. Who is the caretaker for the pool of democracy?

Uh, that would be us, the citizens. Many of whom have woke up to what has happened and is happening and aren’t real happy.
Hopefully, we will look real close at any candidate for Congress or the Presidency now and weed out those who will be ineffective.
Regardless of who is the next President, without a sensible Congress, nothing will change.
While it would be nice, in a sense, to have a Democrat assume dictatorial powers as the Shrub has done, I ain’t ready for that. Nor is anybody else, except maybe a stray candidate or three.
It’s going to take all of us, working together, urging those who don’t vote to pay attention and cast a ballot—-AFTER thinking it through. And keeping the heat on the Congress Critter’s to do the right thing for the right reason; because it is best for the country as a whole. Not a small part, but the whole country.

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By ocjim, August 15, 2007 at 8:37 am Link to this comment

Jeb and Neil were both involved in the S&L crisis.
If Jeb runs the media has something else to cover up.


Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars.

Neil Bush was the most widely targeted member of the Bush family by the press in the S&L scandal.  Neil became director of Silverado Savings and Loan at the age of 30 in 1985.  Three years later the institution was belly up at a cost of $1.6 billion to tax payers to bail out.

The basic actions of Neil Bush in the S&L scandal are as follows:

Neil received a $100,000 “loan” from Ken Good, of Good International, with no obligation to pay any of the money back.

Good was a large shareholder in JNB Explorations, Neil Bush’s oil-exploration company.

Neil failed to disclose this conflict-of-interest when loans were given to Good from Silverado, because the money was to be used in joint venture with his own JNB.  This was in essence giving himself a loan from Silverado through a third party.

Neil then helped Silverado S&L approve Good International for a $900,000 line of credit.

Good defaulted on a total $32 million in loans from Silverado.

During this time Neil Bush did not disclose that $3 million of the $32 million that Good was defaulting on was actually for investment in JNB, his own company.

Good subsequently raised Bush’s JNB salary from $75,000 to $125,000 and granted him a $22,500 bonus.

Neil Bush maintained that he did not see how this constituted a conflict of interest.

Neil approved $106 million in Silverado loans to another JNB investor, Bill Walters. 

Neil also never formally disclosed his relationship with Walters and Walters also defaulted on his loans, all $106 million of them.

Neil Bush was charged with criminal wrongdoing in the case and ended up paying $50,000 to settle out of court.  The chief of Silverado S&L was sentenced to 3.5 years in jail for pleading guilty to $8.7 million in theft. (Keep in mind that you can get more jail time for holding up a gas station for $50.)

Today Neil Bush is working on closing a deal in Florida, where his brother Jeb is governor, to sell a software package to schools with his startup company Ignite.

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By farmertx, August 15, 2007 at 7:56 am Link to this comment

#95047 by Verne Arnold on 8/15 at 5:42 am
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As Abe said, you can’t fool all the people all the time. Der Karl has finally realized that.
By the by, that was Shrubs’ other brother that was in the S&L mess. Shrub just conned his daddys’ friends out of their money. But he paid them all back with interest and then some. ‘Course he used the Treasury to do that, but what the hey.
Never had figured why that other brother hasn’t been mentioned. Think his name was Marvin or something close.

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By ocjim, August 15, 2007 at 7:50 am Link to this comment

Scum is always at the top of a pool until you skim it off. Who is the caretaker for the pool of democracy?

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By Verne Arnold, August 15, 2007 at 6:42 am Link to this comment

Karl Rove, Bushes’ brain?  Hmm, I wonder.  Bush has a history of failure…but it always involved money/business; to wit, the savings and loan disaster that his “daddy” bailed him out of…hell, he should have gone to jail for that alone.  There’s more.  My point is; this jackass may have a talent for politics.  He did, after all, hire these Gestapo guys, in spite of his father’s advice.  Rove was a “consigliore”, not the architect.  So, who’s the fool?  Who’s the moron?
Frankly, I’ve seen a masterful and divisive challenge to the concept of freedom.  The absolute travesty is…it worked.  Pander to the fundamentalists and all the other “right wing” whacko’s.  That, along with totally corrupt and irresponsible form of capitalism has done us in.  Forget democracy…it’s highly over-rated and obviously subject to massive corruption and manipulation.  Look more to what we used to be…a Republic…far more representative. 
We have stood by and watched the choreographed destruction of everything we have been taught and raised to believe.  no matter what you think, there is really only one person to blame.  So…who is truly responsible for this?  Got a mirror handy?

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 4:08 am Link to this comment

#95004 by D. Katz on 8/14 at 11:12 pm

D. Katz…

I LOVE this!!! PIGS is right. SCUMBAGS everyone of them.

I’m writing up the charges now.

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By D. Katz, August 15, 2007 at 12:12 am Link to this comment
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Those who blame Rove for the utter disaster that is the Bush - no, make that the Cheney Administration and the corrupt excesses of the Republican party have it completely ass backwards.  Rove is not the architect, he is the building; white, fat and smug, he embodies and exemplifies the highest values of the Republican Party, which are: no values, other then getting elected, feeding at the trough, screwing the public, and looking out for the rich, big business, and of course, number one.  All that blather about family values: abortion, the sanctity of marriage, prayer in public schools, yadda yadda, is just that, blather and carefully contrived PR BS specifically designed to fool the rubes, the credulous, the idiots of the religious right and the patriotic yahoos into voting for the same greedy fiends who are exporting their jobs, denying them health care, and making college unaffordable while tracking their kids into a substandard education.  Just keep drinking beer, breathing dirty air, eating tainted food from your outsourced factories in China; keep listeing to oxyconten addict Rush Limbaugh, and the Fox Propaganda Network, keep on driving gas gussling SUV’s, and cheering on your favorite NASCAR driver, while we get rich - that’s the GOP philosophy.  Republicans have no loyalty to this country or its people, who they play for suckers (especially the religious right, who are happy to let them), they hate minorities, and only tolerate them to get elected, or as useful idiots; in general, Republicans have no values other than greed and selfishness, and no ethics or morality whatsoever. They will slander anyone, say or do anything, take any position, break any promise as long as it serves their objectives.  We see time and time again how they arrogantly apply one set of ethics for themselves and another, more rigid and unyielding, for their advesaries and the “lesser people.”  Republicans are liars, hypocrites, and thieves; murderers too; ruthless people who will stop at nothing to gain and hold power. They belong in jail, not government. In the sixties we used to have a word for these people: the word was PIGS: they want all the land, all the money, all the oil, all the water, all the air.  To sum it all up Republicans are SCUM, each and every one of them, and Rove is no scummier than the rest.  Throw them all out, (if we ever have another honest election) investigate their crimes, try them, then throw them all in jail - where they belong.

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By cyrena, August 15, 2007 at 12:02 am Link to this comment

When I read this article, I experienced a déjà vu of great intensity. (I have these “déjà vu” experiences all of the time, but this was like off the charts). It explains so very much about the misery of my personal experiences as an independently thinking woman of color, living and working in Texas, during this same time period. (most of the 80’s, and all of the 90’s).

The tricks and tactics/examples that Amy provides here, are in some cases IDENTICAL, to the same schemes perpetrated against me, (and others) within the corporate community, which spilled over of course, to the personal experience, no matter how hard I’ve always tried to keep those spheres as separate entities of my life, as they should be.

My former corporation operates very much like Rove has run the Republican politics of Texas (and beyond) for all of these decades. It could even be seen as a sort of a “model” of a Roverian operation, where the most widely used tactic is to attack a person by undermining their very strengths, and turning them into liabilities. (rather than incorporating their strengths into a more effective operation).

Maybe it’s just “coincidence” that Rove developed and perfected his strategy and tactics in Texas, and that my own corporation developed the same – in the SAME place, and at the SAME time. (at least that’s when/where the corporate headquarters were re-located and enormously expanded).

So, reading this was like experiencing an epiphany of “dot-connecting”. NOW I understand.

Until now, the closest I could come to describing this phenomena of dirty tricks, was to say that for some reason, there were people in the world/corp who, in attempting to “sell themselves” or compete for power/influence, always choose to smear or otherwise make someone else LOOK BAD, in order to make THEMSELVES – LOOK GOOD! Now, that never made any rationale sense to me. And, as if that wasn’t totally irrational on its own, they would do it to ANYBODY, including those who weren’t even IN THE COMPETITION!! At least that was my experience in the corporate world.

My own response attitude was something like this:
‘I’m not trying to get whatever it is that you think I want; that would in any way involve YOU, or prevent you from getting whatever it is that YOU want. So, why are you badmouthing ME? In short, they “designate” “opponents” in their own minds, even where there aren’t any. OR, they identify/designate the WRONG “opponents”, which also has a tendency to blow back on them; though typically not until after the damage is already done.

Now of course that was at the lower-class levels of the corporate masses, and when it spilled over, it was this same mentality that existed in other areas of society and interpersonal relationships. Up in the boardrooms and political saloons of the Rovians, where these tactics originate, the “opponents” are far more real, as they represent anything that would stand in the way of the Cabal highjacking our government.

Still, we can see how this has trickled down into our own institutions at the local levels, and within our communities. It has proven to be the most destructive thing to hit this country since the colonists took over.

And, over half the population of our nation –STILL- doesn’t know what hit ‘em! (Yes, Earl comes to mind, but there are others, who are less obnoxious, but still stupid)

THAT is probably the worst of it.

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By republicanSScareme, August 14, 2007 at 11:38 pm Link to this comment
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Why is it so many of these sleaze-bags look like church deacons?  Fat, pathetic church deacons.

His departure sounds great, but now who’s going to take care of that madman in Room 1600?  Maybe Laurina will start running things.

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By vet240, August 14, 2007 at 10:58 pm Link to this comment

I’m sure if you asked Rove what person in history he most closely associates himself with he would say Joan of Arc Heroine to King Charles VII of France.

I on the other hand, most closely associate him with Joseph Goebbels, Hitlers master propigandist.

I know how to spell propagandist. I just think my spelling (with the pig in the middle) is more fitting here!

If you’re wondering who I think bu$h is most closely identified with That would be the man who held Goebbels in high esteem.

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By Kevin, August 14, 2007 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment
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Yes kids, learn from this. Cheating gets you everything. When lying, cheating and manipulation works, is there still a chance for this society to recover?
If Congress doesn’t act and right the wrongs that Rove, Bush and Cheney have wrought upon us by prosecution and impeachment, then future generations have a dismal future to face.

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By QuyTran, August 14, 2007 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

He is a garbage man, no more or less !

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By farmertx, August 14, 2007 at 5:09 pm Link to this comment

If the American voter hasn’t learned a harsh lesson from Der Karl, they deserve the kind of politician that he will support.
Most of the Republican’s that I have spoke with have admitted, privately, that between Shurb and Der Karl, the Republican Party has been set back on its heels.
As the Democrat’s have much damage control to engage in, so do the Republican’s.
Of course, there will be those simple minded folks, Earl comes to mind, that will always support a clueless leader.
Thankfully, the number’s show that they are a definite minority, growing smaller by the week.

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