#90866 by Chaseme on 7/30 at 12:01 pm

Chaseme,

This is an excellent post about that two-ton elephant in the room. The stuff than nobody wants to talk about.

Thing is, avoiding that elephant can only happen for so long. Because…after all of the underprivileged, (which includes nearly all people of color) are covered in elephant shit, (which was bound to happen)and the elephant is still in the room, the next targets are…..well, you guessed it. The elephant doesn’t much care who it shits on, so now those who always presumed to be among the priviliged, are being suffocated by the pink stuff as well.

Meantime, here’s a little humorous video clip for us to keep it all in perspective.

http://www.digyourowngrave.com/excedrin-for-racial-ten sion-headaches-snl/

Impeachment of Gonzales will be the first step in voicing strong disapproval for the Bush administration from our Congress and the American people.  It is no surprise to anyone that our president and his administration have, yet again, hid the truth from the American public.  Similar to the dealings with the war in Iraq, this administration has been feeding lies to the public.  Now the war has proven to be a failure and is causing more violence, terror and poverty in this world.  According to the Borgen Project, it only takes $19 billion dollars annually to eradicate world hunger and poverty.  However, our government has already spent more than $450 billion dollars over this fruitless war in Iraq.  It is time for the Bush Administration to take a real interest in the lives of the American people as well as people who are in desperate needs around the world.  Stop the lies and stop poverty now.

WOW! cyrena & jbart. Are we finally getting to the crux of the matter? I completely agree with the fact talking disparagingly about what rogue elements of the Israeli government are doing (especially Mossad) is NOT, I repeat NOT, anti-semitism. In fact many of the people trying to debase the Jewish people, and doing nasty things ‘supposedly’ in the name of the Jewish people AREN’T EVEN JEWISH. They prey upon us by using the holocaust as a tool of propaganda to divide & conquer.

Zionism is the cause, and Mossad is the tool used to further the cause. It’s not far removed at all from the neo-CONs using fundamentalist Christians as dupes to further their hateful agenda. For true spirited Christians the Christian community would rise up enmasse if they only knew the travesties being done in their name, and I believe the Jewish people would, also. Unfortunately, the massive propaganda campaigns have taken their toll, and these two religious communities have bought the lie that US ‘Black Ops’, and the nefarious operations of Mossad are necessary to keep the populations of our two countries safe from the terrorist threat. Most fail to even realize the worst terrorists are within our own governments.

Fear is the goad used to control populations. Fortunately, the bigger these crimes against humanity perpetrated by the neo-CONS & Mossad, the harder they are to cover up, and a good portion of the populations are beginning to see how manipulated we have been. The tide is now shifting, as truth is revealed of the lies, deceit, mass murder, and thievery we (American & Israeli, Christian & Jewish) have been subjected to. The fear will eventually turn into outright rage as more of these criminals & their activities are exposed to the light of day/truth. Zionists (and their Mossad agents) and neo-CONs (through various agencies) have been working on their agendas for going on a century or more now, so change will not be quick, but for our survival we must shoulder the load and carry on.

#90601 by jbart on 7/29 at 7:57 am
So jbart, you were flabbergasted as well, huh? I mean, this stuff pretty much can’t help but blow our hair back.

•  ….”who is also known to be an Israeli intelligence asset and someone Israel relies upon for missions that demand “plausible deniability” on the part of the Mossad

A visual example of this would be the film, “Munich” if anyone should be interested.
The plausible deniability concept is in full operation in the film, when an ordinary citizen “Son of Israel” heads a global clandestine operation to wipe out suspected Palestinian operatives). They choose him and his crew to provide plausible deniability for the Mossad.

•  I agree that this is very “disturbing” and further “proof” that Israel is way too “deep” in our gov’t ‘s affairs and policies. I really don’t care what ITW says about the paranoia we all seem to have about Zionists/Israelis/Jews. This is not about anti-Semitism, it’s about love of country. Israel’s involvement is real and needs to be eliminated if we have any hope of our Gov’t returning to be OUR GOV’T !!

Anyway, thanks for reposting a condensed version for everyone to read. (sometimes the links are difficult for some people to manage, and this is definitely something that we should all at least be aware of. So, we’ll keep appreciating Louise, and everyone else willing to share this information.

And, that’s not easy, for the reasons she’s already mentioned. First, any subject about Israel with the average American citizen, always tends to invoke sympathy and defense, because of the whole Holocaust experience. And yeah, it was bad. It was also a long time ago, and Israel has since perpetrated a Holocaust of it’s own, that has been as awful, if not worse, than the one they experienced, if only because it has gone on for so many decades, and the disaster to continuing generations has been devastating.

And yet, as American taxpayers, we know so little of this. I honestly believe that to be the problem of a handful of our posters. They really don’t WANT the American people, (at the level of ordinary citizens) to know exactly how manipulated we are by this “twinship” with Israel, that the Libbys, and cheney’s and rumsfelds, and wolfie’s of the world have continued to facilitate.

And, you’re right of course. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism, and everything to do with the fact that we can’t afford to support Israel, when we have to support our own households. That means we can’t afford to support Israel’s ideology either, if it means subjecting ourselves to the wrath of Israel’s legitimate enemies. They are not MY enemies.

In other words, if I’m gonna get my ass kicked, (or blown up in an airplane) I want it to be for something I did, (or maybe a kid that I’m responsible for, did) and not something Israel did.

#90563 by cyrena on 7/29 at 1:17 am

cyrena

Good Idea!

We’re all suffering from Scandal Overload!

I think I’ll do the same thing ... read a good fiction novel!

[Like the fascists are going to rest on Sunday]

I sometimes get the idea that overloading us with scandal is part of the plan. Actually I know it is. People who have no access to the web find this stuff terribly hard to believe. And trying to explain it to them leaves their eyes glazed over. Or it freightens them so badly they ask you to stop!

I find myself wondering how much our congressers really know!

Helps us all recognize the urgency of fighting any efforts to control the web though doesn’t it?

Enjoy your Sunday!

#90546 by Louise on 7/28 at 10:38 pm

Louise,

I’ve definitely watched and listened to Condi. For me, it is the equivalent of nails on a chalk board, or maybe worse.

I cannot take it. She is a disgrace to her field, to her race, to her gender, to her nationality, and to the world.

When she testifies, it’s always with the same haughty arrogance, and that same cocky smugness, as if any of them has a clue to what place they have in that circus that they call the seat of our government. That’s what makes it extra disgusting. She does all of this posturing, and ain’t got a damn thing to say.

And, they ALL take like that, whether it’s in testimony, or just the array of WH “spokesperson’s” spinning that same old stuff. It’s like a scene from the Stepford Wives, except that these happen to be politicians, instead of wives. Just as terrifying. It’s like they’re all poured from some sort of mold, (or into one)but it’s an ideological mold, and it’s a sick patten. One they should never have cast.

Like that Monica Goodling, influencing stuff as important as US attorney placements, hirings, firings, and using things like “Have you ever cheated on your wife” as a litmus test. Sorry, that was just like “my line.” Reminds me of 30 plus years ago, when I stopped watching General Hospital, after they found a way to change the temperature, and make it snow or rain, or whatever…whenever they wanted.

I was done. That’s how all of these minions are, and yet they are DANGEROUS. Way more so than those Stepford Wives.

But…here’s the thing….I also read the articles that you linked in you post, (I didn’t get to greg plast yet, but I’ve heard and read his stuff many times, so I will) and the one on Libby really did just blow me away. I feel so stupid. I had no idea. Their very own intelligence person, and been connected at the deepest and highest levels, for a long time. Double agent Leibowitz. I’m flabbergasted.

Really, I am. I know his name was on the PNAC, so I knew there was always that “connection”, but DAMN!!

And then I came across The Pentagon’s Second 9/11. Another mind boggler, if ONLY because he wrote that piece just about a year ago. Damn!! It’s all the same stuff that Ernest has been warning us of, but from a different source, Michel Chossudovsky. (and I’ve read other of his pieces) anyway, I don’t know if you were directing us to that one as well, (since it too, was at the global research site) but it’s a lulu.

So, at this point, I’m going to find a nice FICTION novel…one that has already been categorized as such, and just give my senses a rest.

I’ll get back to reality reading tomorrow.

Have any of you had the “pleasure” of watching Condoleezza testify before the congress?

Thinking back, I suspect she has done some coaching for Gonzales. Or maybe he coached her.
 
Goes something like this ...
“I don’t remember.”
“I don’t know.”
“I don’t think so.”
“I cant answer that.”
“I’ll have to get back to you on that.”
Only each simple phrase is couched in forty or fifty words, strung together at random with no particular end goal or point in mind.
The sentence ending usually when the questionnaire interrupts.

When the questionnaire presses for a more specific answer that’s when they start into a long dialogue prefacing it with, “you have to understand,” or some-such, which also turns out to be a lot of meaningless blabber.

When the republicans were in charge for the most part that was acceptable. You got the feeling that they actually understood the babble. Then you realized the babble must be part of the training these folks master to stultify and obfuscate. Probably a service provided by the same clinic that plants a permanent smile on their face’s. Although, I haven’t seen Rice or Gonzales smile much lately. And of course Cheney missed that course. But George keeps smiling proving he isn’t bright enough to realize it isn’t working anymore.

Or is it?

Meanwhile Rove credited with being the architect of the crime family continues to puff up like a balloon, apparently believing the hype about himself. But he can not be credited for inventing this corruption. He is simply an opportunist who found the perfect niche for his particular brand of dishonesty.
The Republican National Committee.

Perhaps I’m numb. Or perhaps I really am suffering from Scandal Fatigue, because I was not at all shocked by Gonzales testimony. It seemed so trite and predictable. And terribly, terribly tiresome. It’s like when you witness a bank robbery. You see the guy, a dozen other people see the guy. He’s arrested and charged and let out on bale and a few years and finagles later brought to trial. Found guilty then let off with “time served” and a week later the same guy robs the same bank and you wonder why anyone wonders why we have a problem with crime.

Mind you, I am a great proponent of innocent until proven guilty, but at what point in time do we see the “proven” guilty sentenced and punished?

OK, how guilty is Gonzales?
What are the charges?
When is the trial?
Well, for the most part nobody knows ... so it’s high time we let everybody know.

Libby’s little go-around managed to take the focus off the myriad “real” crimes he was a part of, like manufacturing evidence that led to the war, which has led to countless deaths. Or spying for a foreign nation. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va& aid=6236
Getting pulled into the Plame thing was actually opportune. I am going to be so flipping mad if the congress settles for a similar red haring regarding Gonzales.

So take a few minutes and go to http://www.GregPalast.com  and study. Then go to your PBS TV directory and find out when “NOW” with guest Greg Palast is going to be rebroadcast [usually on Sunday morning] or watch the streaming video if it’s available. Then go to http://www.democracynow.com and watch the Monday, May 14th, 2007 segment:
Investigative Journalist Greg Palast Reports on the Firing of New Mexico Attorney David Iglesias

It’s all about voter fraud folks.
In the final analysis, wasn’t that what the Watergate break-in was all about?

But on the other hand, if lying under oath is the only thing they settle on ... why don’t they go after Bush for doing the same thing? When he put his hand on that Bible the second time and swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemy’s both Foreign and DOMESTIC, he knew he had already authorized the breaking of Constitutional Law. Therefore, he was lying, under oath, with the Bible in his hand ... so help me God.

#90352 by Non Credo on 7/28 at 7:36 am

Cyrena, I’m impressed that you had the patience and intellectual discipline actually to watch the hearings. I’m sure you have a much better understanding than I have from my second-hand knowledge of it. But from what you and Josh Marshall report, I think I might have had a stroke if I’d seen it. Truly this administration is maddening in its arrogance and impunity.

Non Credo,

Don’t be “too” impressed, since I have to admit to limited help from Paxil.

But, more seriously, (and paradoxically – tragically) I’m also a very early casualty of this very same gang, (or at least their political reps in the corporate world). So in essence, I got my psychological “vaccination” a while back. It nearly killed me, but I guess when one manages to survive these things, it “toughens” us up. So now, I can maintain an emotional detachment, and “study” them from the more effective intellectual track.

It’s not easy though. I have to “self-monitor” my “exposure.”

And yes, it’s totally insane, (and all part of a Lewis Carroll tale) that gonzo or ANY of them, should simply refuse to answer questions. It’s unprecedented, like everything else has been for the past 7 years.

#90062 by Non Credo on 7/27 at 8:55 am

Non Credo, I too, noticed this in the video, and with the same chill…

•  “… Gonzales simply refused to answer one of Sen. Schumer’s questions—didn’t say he didn’t remember, didn’t invoke a privilege, just said, No. Not going to discuss that with you….”
That’s what he said…he simply was NOT going to discuss it with them. And, that is in fact the “poured in cement” ideology of the cheney regime. They don’t have to answer any questions, or explain any of their actions, and it’s downright annoying to them, that anybody is even asking. How DARE we?

And yep, it should scare the living shit out of every single one of us.

With testimony like that, it is amazing and sad that more senators are not for the perjury than reported.

I’ve got some feather pillows I’ll donate if someone will bring the tar. Just make sure you get the extra-large bucket so we can do all of them at once from the top of the corrupt heap on down.

PS Better make that a bucket of Super Glue since I think it will stick to Teflon better.

A. G. is good for a laugh