Oh, Windbag! Every post that you make here adds more fuel to the flaming fire which proves that you are a Windbag! The hot and foul air you expel continuously can only come from an agnostic hell in your mind and heart. The statements I made about you are compliments, relatively speaking, in light of your evil nature. So I didn’t flame you - I simply revealed truth!

When God flames the likes of you, who deny His existence (it’s the same as questioning His existence), it simply means that His promises will be fulfilled. I’m not making any of this up, really!

Get help from the only ONE Who can help you - before it’s too late! SEEing a shrink is not a bad idea, either Friendly advice like this is not flaming

#89326 by Expat on 7/25 at 3:49 am
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#89249 by the 1Sgt on 7/24 at 6:37 pm
(53 comments total)

Yeah, sarge, you’re right and it is
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What is it like for you, you know when you see American SUVs in town with BUSH 04 stickers?

[smile]

#89249 by the 1Sgt on 7/24 at 6:37 pm
(53 comments total)

Yeah, sarge, you’re right and it is.

#89275 by cyrena on 7/24 at 8:12 pm
(499 comments total)

#89085 by Expat on 7/24 at 7:14 am

EXPAT: you’re mostly right, but partially wrong.

You are always considerate in your answers including to me...thank you.

In the kindest words and regards...you don’t know of what you speak regarding physics and the collapse of the twin towers.  As an engineer, I do have a clue.  You have been mislead by whacko’s regardless of their credentials.  The two towers were not brought down by controlled demolition, period! 
I will not debate this further. Building 7?  Maybe, and I won’t debate this either, because...it’s just not relevant at this point...please don’t get stuck there...it’s time to move on.

One more “fact”...not too long after the attack, Bin Laden himself spoke on a video of the attack “HE” and others planned.  He remarked that the attack was more successful than even he expected (he was in the “building business” before changing careers).

Okay, did Bush and the others co-ordinate with him (Bin Laden) for the exact moment the planes would hit the towers?  I have a vivid imagination and could take this around the galaxy…but I prefer the logic of Occam’s Razor for reality and reason and I might add sanity..

Last comment; I say this with great fear and trepidation because all is nearly lost, but if you and the others stay stuck here and can’t move on then you will be truly lost.  Beware of belief, any belief...it’s a trap and obviates critical thinking and thereby the application of intelligence.  Please, don’t embarrass yourself by adopting someone else’s ideas without carefully investigating their reasoning.  Credentials don’t guarantee competence or anything else.  So I say to you; focus on the task at hand; the future is the key, know what matters and don’t stop.  If you find my words valuable then fine, if not, so be it.

Peace

#89085 by Expat on 7/24 at 7:14 am

EXPAT: you’re mostly right, but partially wrong.

• Ya’all have been spinning yourselves into a conspiracy frenzy which may exist but not as you have spun it; which means you have been distracted from the real danger.

I have to agree with you here, about a conspiracy frenzy, though I believe that it’s because our whole system/existence as a nation has been a series of conspiracies, and in respect to 9-11, there IS in fact a major “conspiracy” though admittedly, it hasn’t been “spun” much in the direction of trying to figure it out. So, yes, there’s definitely an existing conspiracy, but you’re right that it has been a distraction from the real danger, which has always been the White House (and other properties owned by the same inhabitants). And, we’ve been much distracted by all of these and other things, which has also been pretty intentional as well.

• 911 was, as seen, on the news…the towers came down because of the planes.  Do not waste your precious little time on this tripe; building seven…forget it…the real and present danger sits in the white house.

On this, you’re assessment is incomplete, making it partially wrong. It’s true that we saw on the news, that two of those 4 hijacked airplanes hit those towers. We all saw it. Some people were actually there, and lived to say that they saw the same. So, we can all assume that those airplanes did hit at least two of the WTC towers on 9-11. That is –NOT- however, what brought them down. Those towers were obviously brought down the same way that controlled demolitions are accomplished, because it’s against the law of physics, to suggest that the airplanes caused the result that we all saw. An impossibility. So, the airplanes were there, but simply NOT the cause of the fact that the towers turned to dust.

Aside from that, I agree that it is in part, just a distraction, (although there are worse distractions) because the real and present danger has ALWAYS been at the White House, at least since The Coup of 2000, and it’s only become more and more desperate. I can’t say I blame you for leaving.

• You like to refer to Germany…pre WWII, and yet you don’t see….you’re there.  Fix it or get out before you can’t.

This too, is very much on target advice. We ARE there…I’ve been watching it coming, and yelling into the wind of course, because far too many of my fellow citizens couldn’t see it. More do now, but you’re right…too many of us have already been drug over the cliff.

STILL, many of us HAVE taken to the streets…and always PEACEFULLY I might add. But only a handful, compared to our numbers as a nation. Mostly it’s just us old-times and students, doing the best we can. I admit that isn’t enough. Not even close.

It’s very distressing, and you’re also right…without a very quick fix, I don’t know that we can save it.

It’s all in the deformed, mutated evil bush gene pool.

Bush’s Grandfather Attempted Coup on American President

Apparently, George W. Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, was part of a right-wing conspiracy to overthrow FDR and institute a fascist government.

The BBC has the goods.

“Documentuncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by a group of right-wing American businessmen.

The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.”

Google videos:
9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition, America: Freedom to Fascism

#89085 by Expat on 7/24 at 7:14 am
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My moniker is Expat because I have quit America.  I won’t return because it’s finished, done, gone! 

You refuse to go to the streets…I have railed and railed and this is really it…I’m done…don’t waste you’re precious time savaging me…I don’t count for shit…I would have stayed and fought as I did in the Nam era, but today, I would feel naked standing alone on the street and would be arrested as the madman I am!.

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What you see today most Americans will never see unless they live on the other side of the oceans. Pretty scary huh?

Windbag, I didn’t flame you - God, however, will flame you!

This, like many Truthdig articles, has become a chat-room.  Ya’all have been spinning yourselves into a conspiracy frenzy which may exist but not as you have spun it; which means you have been distracted from the real danger.

I will not begin to itemize this constant descending into Faustian Hell, but you miss the force for the trees.  911 was, as seen, on the news…the towers came down because of the planes.  Do not waste your precious little time on this tripe; building seven…forget it…the real and present danger sits in the white house.  See it or don’t!  My moniker is Expat because I have quit America.  I won’t return because it’s finished, done, gone!  You like to refer to Germany…pre WWII, and yet you don’t see….you’re there.  Fix it or get out before you can’t.
You refuse to go to the streets…I have railed and railed and this is really it…I’m done…don’t waste you’re precious time savaging me…I don’t count for shit…I would have stayed and fought as I did in the Nam era, but today, I would feel naked standing alone on the street and would be arrested as the madman I am!.

P.T...your question:

If “the terrorists hate our freedoms” why are Bush and Co. doing their dirty work and relieving us of our freedoms?
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These aren’t the same “freedoms”. The terrorists hate the “freedoms” that we take on THEIR space, they really don’t CARE what we do over here.

So, the freedoms that you’re talking about, our freedoms over here, that’s a whole different tune. It’s Dick Bush who hates THOSE freedoms, and that’s why they’ve been ripping up all those parts of the constitution.

So, obviously, since we’re talking about a different collection of “freedoms”, we’re also talking about a different set of “terrorists” as well.

The terrorists who hate our freedoms here at home, are doing all of the dirty work themselves. And, they haven’t minded a bit, until maybe now that they are so close to having the whole thing explode in their faces.

#88843 by Ernest Canning on 7/23 at 9:03 am

Ernest,

Thanks so much for the very valuable mini-lecture and/or refresher course. Specifically:

• We are witnessing the end stages of a counter-revolution that has been going on for decades.  Much of it can be found in the writings of Robert Bork, dating back to when he was a Solicitor General in the Nixon administration--before his role in “the Saturday Night Massacre” made him a household name.  Bork is the founder of the radically subversive “Federalist Society.”

For whatever the reason, I never knew that Bork was the founder of the “Federalist Society”. (far more dangerous than the “Skull ‘n Bones” crowd, although I’m sure there are dual memberships among them).

Anyway, thanks for the analysis.

(PS...we the people are proceeding with the impeachment procedure without the Congressional Table. We found another table, and we already have our own copies of the manual, so it’s like time to roll....)

It seems that Windbag has been away for a while - obviously to fill up with hot air, judging from his latest blow-off. Windbag, it’s not possible to answer your lunatic ravings seriously. You are ready for a padded cell!

ocjim: The notion that Bush is “now making plays to increase his power” understates the gravity of the danger.  We are witnessing the end stages of a counter-revolution that has been going on for decades.  Much of it can be found in the writings of Robert Bork, dating back to when he was a Solicitor General in the Nixon administration--before his role in “the Saturday Night Massacre” made him a household name.  Bork is the founder of the radically subversive “Federalist Society.” His protege, Justice Samuel Alito, invented “Unitary Executive” theory in 1985--the concept that advances the notion that the executive has the exclusive right to determine the boundaries of his own power (thereby overturning the pillar of American Constitutional law that dates back to the 1803 Marbury vs. Madison decision which ruled that constitutional interpretation is a “judicial” function.  Under this “theory” it is meaningless to ask whether the President is above the law.  The Unitary Executive “is” the law.

“Unitary Executive” theory is the underlying basis for the now more than 1000 presidential signing statements, the torture memos, the warrantless NSA electronic eavesdropping and now the directive that once the president asserts “executive privilege” the Justice Department is barred from seeking to enforce contempt of Congress citations in court.

The more recent executive orders purporting to grant the “Unitary Executive” the authority to declare martial law in the event of another “terrorist incident” appear to deliver the final hammer blow to the documentknown as the Constitution of the United States.  The light of liberty is flickering, endanger of going out permanently, and yet the Democratic “leadership,” like the hapless Social Democrats in the waning days of Germany’s Weimar Republic, don’t even suspect there is a danger as they quietly spend all their spare time trolling for corporate dollars in the election.  Impeachment, the one tool left to them to prevent the putch, is not even “on-the-table.”

This clip still scares the holy crap out of me:

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/cheney_hides_in_t he_bushes/

When will the first scary thriller movie be made where Dick Cheney is the monster?

Possible titles:

DC never smiles twice

Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue: Tricky Dicky

Dirty Dick: Constitutional Toilet Paper

Dick Shaft: “I’m gonna git you Valerie”

Dickinator 3: The Rise of Illegal Wiretappings

Hannibal Cheney and The Silence of Democracy
("I ate the constitution with some fava beans and a nice chianti")

Cheney’s Play: Condi Rice, Bride of Cheney

Cheney’s Play 2: Seeds of Fascism

Feel free to add any other possible titles…

#88693 by Dale Headley on 7/22 at 11:52 am

Dale….This is great
• I long for the day when George Bush, along with paramour, Condoleeza Rice, are cornered in their underground bunker in the “Reichstag on the Potomac” and together take poison before the American People break in to lynch them
I see a couple of similarities to Hitler’s end. Didn’t he like marry his long time paramour, and then the next day, they committed suicide? Or, he did...because he knew it was the end. I don’t know. Just seems like I read that somewhere.

Anyway, I wonder if there’s any way to rush this along a bit? I mean, I long for the day myself, but only if they have Cheney with them. I don’t know how that would work out.

I’m very fearful of something happening to george, before we can get cheney disarmed. I don’t know why, there’s really no difference anyway.

Cheney has always been in charge, and there hasn’t been a damn thing Condi can do about it.

She has no power. She’s just a lacky. A dangerous one no doubt, since she’s managed to do nothing more than piss-off the rest of world, which is exactly the opposite of course, of what a Secretary of State is expected to accomplish. So, we should probably expect your vision to come along, hopefully sooner than later.

leefeller,
There’s a ggrain of truth in that. But, basically, Shrub is dumber than the average stump. Were it not for Der Karl telling him what to say and when to say it, he would still be raising funds for the GOP.
Heck, while he was Governor of Texas, his daddy had to call in friends to tutor the boy on what he should have learned in collage.
Even now, when he has an impromptu news conference, he is stammering and stuttering all over the place.
Without a script, Teleprompter or a ‘tailor’s mistake’ on his back he is helpless in trying to make a complete sentence in one try.

Bush’s “Aw shucks” persona is not ignorance but manipulated just right, us to believe it is ignorance. . Mean while he dismantles the Constitution and takes away our rights.

Complain all you want about Bush, the American people elected him - with the full understanding of who stands with him in the halls of power.  The american people are to blame.

“We rarely get the government we want but rather the government we deserve.”

The conspiracy theorists who have posted here are just a dangerous!  This current government isn’t particularly evil, it is particualarly stupid.  George, Dick, Rummey, Wolfowitz, Pearl, all....make the mistake of believing propaganda is truth - even thier self generated propaganda.  The posiblility of a dictatorial martial take over is real, not because this is what these buffons had planed, but because they know it is the only way to keep the truth about thier actions secret.  They know that after the defeat of neo-conservatives in the next election, the political bloodletting will begin - and no one will be safe.

All hail Ceasar! Where is Brutus when we need him?

Here’s an extremely disturbing article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070722/ap_on_hi_te/chippi ng_america;_ylt=AnHSUOtzrB5hQxAMRIGVnaLMWM0F

This very topic is covered in this Google video:
America: Freedom to Fascism

Other Google videos:
9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition

SH:

The evildoers (Bushco and other Zionists) and enlightened Americans live in separate universes. It’s not so much a matter of what (most) Americans think, it’s a matter of what a critical mass of Americans are willing to DO to drag the evildoers out of their fantasyland and into reality. The real problem is that the Zionist web has been spun so tightly and so pervasively that it’s tough to find an escape - a procedural ‘legal’ escape, anyway. All the exits SEEM to be blocked - elections, the Courts, the MSM, realistic political alternatives, etc. Notice I used the word SEEM. There will be an answer, let it be!

Americans are more intelligent than they are given credit for.

Polls indicate that many of the attempts at psychological manipulation by the Bush-Cheney administration about the invasion and occupation of Iraq have been unsuccessful.

Even though some of our news media and many of our leaders seem corrupt, and we have been subjected to lies and deception, the American people apparently can perceive much of the truth of the situation.

Food for thought in the articles ...

“Americans felt turning points on Vietnam, Iraq wars in ‘70, ‘07” (American Chronicle, July 11, 2007)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle. asp?articleID=31984

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“‘Dumbing down’ of Americans may not be working: More intelligence emerges” (American Chronicle, June 12, 2007)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle. asp?articleID=29479

PS The Bible says that the evidence for the existence God is all around us! Even if it’s all ‘circumstantial’, it is nevertheless overwhelming! Some people just choose to ignore the evidence - just like they choose to ignore the evidence that 9/11 was perpetrated by a bunch of crazed (more than 19!) Zionists

There will come a time when the evidence about God, Truth and 9/11 will be INCONTROVERTIBLE!

I’m going to post something here from an anonymous poster on another Blog. It is a brilliant piece of analysis and directed at those who insist on waiting for ‘hard evidence’ (as opposed to overwhelming ‘circumstantial evidence’) of what happened on 9/11 before declaring their willingness to ACCEPT truth and, more importantly, to ACT. Here it is:

I practiced law (by working for the gov) for three years back in the late ‘70s, and just before that I “became a lawyer,” and just before that I went to law school.

I had one professor, for Evidence, who was a big human being. His name was Ivan Rutledge, half-brother to a former Supreme Court justice.

He had some deep insights about the nature of evidence that were very unpopular with many students because they were insights into human reality rather than being sound-bites that would help someone pass the bar exam.

One such unpopular viewpoint had to do with “circumstantiality.” He said that in the practice of law, we would run into thousands of people including judges who automatically operate on the unexamined assumption that “circumstantiality” is a useful category for legal analysis. He warned us that in order to communicate truthfully and successfully with those people, we needed to understand the real situation, namely, that no matter what the others may think and say, there is no point in trying to analyze the relevance or probative power of a piece of evidence based on whether or not the evidence is “circumstantial” . . . because all evidence is 100% circumstantial.

Even in the case of truthful eyewitness testimony, the fact that the person was there and saw what they saw, and the fact that they’re now relating a narrative of what they saw using sounds that form words, which reach the minds of hearers who recognize the sounds as words and form mental pictures of what must have happened . . . all those things are circumstances.

Regarding our now-criminal government and specifically 911 I too have longed to see what you are calling “the hard evidence,” and I have suspected that people in the government (and also in the other G8 governments) are already aware of “hard evidence” and they just aren’t talking about it.

But in reality, “hard evidence” is a total phantom, because our whole experience is one big mass of interrelated circumstances, and when a “hard-evidence"-type piece of evidence shows up, it never does come on-scene as THE decisive factor that suddenly changes everyone’s mind. Moreover, no such single decisive piece of evidence ever will show up! What we thought would be the decisive “hard evidence” in fact melds into the whole pre-existing mass of OTHER interrelated circustances that people are already aware of.

Example: The BBC video of their anchor-person in New York saying that WTC 7 had just fallen down . . . while the live feed showed it still standing in the background! If there is such a thing as a totally-decisive smoking gun that had to be it. And it wasn’t! The BBC bigwig fronted the explanation that in the heat of the broadcast moment, an anchor person can easily get things out of sequence, etc., etc., and he hasn’t been fired or even called in question by “the authorities,” nor will that ever happen.

Here’s an Einsteinian mind experiment: Make up (i.e., imagine) a 911 piece of evidence that you think WOULD BE *THE* ‘smoking gun’ . . . THE piece of evidence that CAN’T be manipulated by the powers that be, and that is INCAPABLE of fading into the background of pre-existing circumstantial evidence.

Impossible, right???

Therefore, if it’s true that we really must wait for a true smoking gun, a true piece of “hard evidence,” before acting, we will never act.

And that moving through Jell-o feeling? Which I have had too, and I think I know just what you mean. That’s the feeling of living inside of a belief that I MUST wait, for something which is, in actuality, nonexistent.

cyrena:

Not everyone can SEE all the dots (yet) that need to be connected to make complete sense of 9/11. Some people just don’t WANT to connect some of these dots! They want to (mis)lead people down some garden path and AWAY FROM the Truth. Some people have limited intelligence and are just UNABLE to connect some of these dots. Some people (Zionists) know what really happened and they will try their darnedest (which includes very subtle strategies) to keep the Truth hidden.

Let me suggest that you read posts more carefully before responding and thereby avoid creating perhaps unintended innuendos. Perhaps they were intended innuendos because the damage has already been done.

I’m here to create awareness of Truth in as many people as possible - and that includes people who never participate in these blogs but are listening.

What is of the UTMOST importance to me with regard to 9/11 is the EXPOSURE to the light of those Zionists (and their sympathizers) who ‘pulled off’ 9/11 to justify subsequent actions to take control of America and destroy it! Their gameplan has been working for MANY years (read Benjamin Freedman’s 1961 and 1974 speeches). Unless they are (1) exposed and then (2) resisted (possibly stopped), the onslaught will continue until we are all enslaved or worse.

I’m not interested in tracking down every little detail about what exactly happened on 9/11 and how it happened. There are MUCH more important tasks to be done FIRST! Perhaps the most important is expanding the collective consciousness of the Evil (to a critical mass, which will allow effective resistance) which is threatening all Americans and all humanity!

And do not belittle the power or will of God to intervene in human affairs. It’s been happening throughout human history! You may not believe in God - but you will, eventually!

#88585 by 911truthdotorg on 7/21 at 8:22 pm

...."My theory is they simply crashed them into the ocean.”....

Truthdog,

Your theory is just as credible as any other. It could in fact be true. It seems like somebody would have noticed that as well, but that doesn’t mean anything, because there were dozens who reported explosions at the WTC, and yet none of the official reports have ever been willing to include such information.

So, while I would like to think that somebody would have reported such a thing, (some sign of airplanes disappearing into the ocean)I have to also accept the fact that anyone reporting such a thing would probably have been “disappeared” as well.

So, you’re right. We don’t know. I’m not sure we ever will, unless somebody has found and kept the “evidence” such as flight voice and data recorders. (which actually DO survive, even in the ocean). That probably isn’t likely, but...ya never know.

Maybe somebody should be draining the Chesapeake Bay, where Cheney’s new palace was constructed a few years ago. He no doubt has a bird’s-eye view of exactly where all of this took place. So, I bet HE knows.

Regarding the question as to where all the planes went since all physical evidence concludes that they didn’t hit the Pentagon or crash in PA....

My theory is they simply crashed them into the ocean.

They know and God knows where they went.

We can’t answer those questions, but they can.

Google videos: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition, America: Freedom to Fascism

Comment#88454 by GodSend on 7/21 at 1:16 am

• cyrena:
When you quoted me in your post, you quoted the words “at this stage of the game”. Did I state that the lives of any of the passengers do not matter? NO, I didn’t. Of course those lives are important
Godsend, I stand corrected and properly acknowledge that you did say: AT THIS POINT in time, or at this stage of the game, or something similar. And yes, I agree with you, that it’s important to continue to find out what actually happened.

On the other hand, your posts sound goofy and disjointed, and defensive. Such as this, which is in the same post:

• Who do you think you’re fooling? (not anyone who can read and connect all the dots).

I’m hardly attempting to “fool” anyone. I think that has already been masterfully accomplished by whoever set up this Alice in Terrorland story nearly 7 years ago, and managed, (at least at the time) to fool the majority of the American people, and the rest of the world. So, you just need to think a bit more carefully about how YOU connect the dots, (to things such as these forums) and not just normally assume that a reaction to your statements is necessarily a jab at you personally. Like this:

• You made a deceptive and false ‘accusation’ that I don’t care about the lives of the passengers on flight 177. That is not true!

I made no such accusation at all, and your reaction is neurotic, because YOU have assigned all of the “innuendo” in YOUR interpretation of my comments. So, you need to get over yourself.

MY POINT, was that if in fact you are that gung ho on sorting through this 9-11 operation, (from a logistical standpoint, since you claim that you can read and connect the dots), what HAPPENED to those planes and the people ON/IN them, is probably one of the things you should be trying to read and connect the dots on. It simply isn’t enough for you to suggest that they confiscated all of the videos, because they didn’t WANT us to see what happened.

Well DUH!! I think we know that much by now. And, you’re original post was in response to Ernest Canning, who again made the point about WHAT HAPPENED to the airplane. (in this case, American flight 77 (NOT 177, as YOU keep writing) but AA flt 77, that we have been told, crashed into the Pentagon. Since we know that there was NO SIGN of AA flt 77 at that location, and not a single piece of debris, or a body, or anything else, a very practical step in the logistics, is to try and figure out WHAT DID happen to it, (and the passengers and crew). MY point, (since I still do not know, conclusively what happened to ANY of these flights) is that the PEOPLE are still missing, at least the ones that I knew. So, that would pretty much eliminate some of the suggestions that I’ve read that the planes and people were diverted elsewhere, to some unknown place, and deplaned – possibly alive and well. (yes, I’ve read such speculations). And, while I cannot rule that out, I am saying that if that were the case, none of the people on any of those flights has since made themselves known.

So, we have 4 huge aircraft that have somehow managed to completely disappear. The official story accounts for AA flight 11 and UAS flt 175, as having been consumed in the inferno of the WTC towers; an inferno that is totally lacking in credibility, because we know that the airplanes themselves, did NOT bring down those towers. But, they have NO accounting for the disappearance of AA flt 77, or UA flt 93. There again, no debris. Just a relatively shallow hole in the ground.

So, if you really are that into this, then that would be a logistical question for you to ponder. Where oh where might they have put these gigantic planes and the people in them.

And NO, God is not going to provide these answers, and misreading any of these posts, based on your own psychological wirings, isn’t gonna help you either.

http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/
Some have asked why Bush is now making power plays to increase his power and whether it is for his successor.
The above website indicates that BushCo is incorporating the means to declare martial law and take over all levels of government. In 2000 we would have laughed at such suggestions and said this is really far-fetched. What do you say now after over 6 years of Cheney and Bush?

From “Working for the Clampdown” by James Bovard:

“The Defense Authorization Act of 2006 passed on Sept. 30 empowers President George W. Bush to impose martial law in the event of a terrorist ‘incident’ or if he or other federal officials perceive a shortfall of ‘public oprder’ or even in response to protects that get unruly as a result of government provocations.”

http://zmagsite.org/JulAug2007/bovard.html

Paul Craig Roberts served as an assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration.  All who value constitutional democracy should link to

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/oldline_Republican_warns _somethings_in_works_0719.html

Here are some excerpts:

“Americans think their danger is terrorists.  They don’t understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the constitution.”

“Americans need to comprehend and look at how ruthless Cheney is....A person like that would do anything.”

“Something’s in the works,” he said, adding that executive orders needed to create a police state are already in place.  “You have to count on the fact that if al Qaeda’s not going to do it, it’s going to be orchestrated.”

cyrena:

When you quoted me in your post, you quoted the words “at this stage of the game”. Did I state that the lives of any of the passengers do not matter? NO, I didn’t. Of course those lives are important - to their loved ones and their friends - and to ALL Americans. Why? Because their lives MAY have been snuffed out, and certainly dramatically changed as part of the Bush Cabal (Zionist) Crime and Conspiracy!

It’s a matter of priorities and right now, the priority is to EXPOSE the LIARS and then unveil the entire sordid nightmare - AND bring the criminals to justice. We all (?) KNOW that our government lied and is still lying to Americans and to the world. Why? Because they have something HORRIBLE to conceal. And that HORRIBLE something only began with 9/11. It continues every day as we speak and blog!

Deception is the work of the Devil - even very subtle deception and innuendo! You made a deceptive and false ‘accusation’ that I don’t care about the lives of the passengers on flight 177. That is not true!

Who do you think you’re fooling? (not anyone who can read and connect all the dots).

#88440 by GodSend on 7/20 at 11:02 pm

It matters GodSend,

...."You SEE, it’s not all that important at this stage of the game where flight 177 actually landed (and what happened to the passengers)”

It matters because all of those passengers and crew members are still missing. I knew crew and passengers on 3 of those 4 planes. I still miss them, and I wanna know what happen to them, because airplanes don’t just disappear.