On a scale of 0 to 10 who benefited by the attacks on September 11, 2001?

Al-Qaeda (created by the CIA in the 80’s) scores a 0/10
Osama Bin Laden scores a 0/10
Saddam Hussein scores a 0/10
Afghanistan scores a 0/10
Iraq scores a 0/10
American Freedoms scores 0/10
Habits Corpus scores 0/10
Zero means that no benefits has been derived politically strategically or financially

Bush, Cheney and the Arms Industry scores 10/10
Military-Industrial Complex of the U.S. scores 10/10
U. S. Government scores 10/10
International Bankers scores 10/10
Project for the New American Century (PNAC) scores 10/10
Oil Companies scores 10/10

Our government has created a war on terror and taken away our freedoms with the Patriot Act. It is no coincidence that Michael Chertoff is queasy now that Bush and Cheney’s impeachment looks plausible.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/b2cf850e796e4a1194834b0 ce2324957/9-11-coincidences-part-eleven.aspx

It really irks me when a Bushie type states, “Well, Bush is doing a good job against terrorism in this country. There hasn’t been an attack by foreigners on American soil since 9/11. On the other hand when Clinton was in office we had umpteen attacks against Americans...YaDaYaDaYaDa”

Get the facts straight dope. There were no attacks by foreigners on American soil from 1993-2001, and that’s two years longer than the six long miserably handled years BushCo & “The Usurpers” have been ‘selected’ to be our homegrown tyrants. True, there were attacks on Americans in other countries, but they pale in comparison to the 3,600+ Americans who have died since Bush sent our troops to terrorize people in other countries.

Good post #87640 by Jane ten Brink on 7/18 at 5:59 am, and I agree with you except for your last sentence,

“The fact that nothing has happened since 9/11 is not an indication of a perfectly functioning prevention system, but rather evidence that the threat does not exist!”

A serious threat does exist, but it comes from within this administration rather than being external. Especially after this latest NIE report, and the way the administration tried to put their warped ‘spin’ on it, I think we can expect our government to launch another 9/11 type ‘false flag’ operation against someplace in the US, and real soon. Their backs are against the wall, but they are still as dangerous as the rabid dogs they are. Watch your backs, folks, but don’t be fearful, because that is the way they will try to control you.
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RE: #87273 by dick on 7/16 at 12:43 pm
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“All preludes to get us prepared for the war on Iran.”

***And it’s coming sooner than later, especially since Iran just announced to Japan it would only accept payments for oil in their yen rather than dollars. The correlation between oil sales, attempts to change the fiat currency, and pre-emptive wars are becoming easily transparent.***

Who needs facts or data when you have an administration that operates on “truthiness”?

Our government NEEDS al Qaida. The unwillingness to finish the job in Afghanistan is proof which we can’t ignore. We must ask WHY?  Who stands to gain? Who wants to have an excuse for the illegal invasion and occupation of foreign countries?
There are three major reasons:

1. Obviously, the military-industrial cabal which enjoys huge profits from death and destruction. Especially US oil companies. Especially private contractors. Especially arms manufacturers.

2. Those whose objectives have been, for many years, the un-doing of both our Constitution and the social programs which have been put in place since FDR. Along with these objectives is the aim to privatize as much of government as possible. As we are distracted by “WAR”, these objectives are bring carried out and we are doing nothing to stop the depradation.

3. The need to protect Israel. Lieberman is the best example of “Israel First” loyalty, followed by all those who are influenced by AIPAC money, especially Hillary and Rham Emanuel.

It’s hard to tell which of these objectives motivates the liar-in-chief, probably all to some degree but mostly ego-driven, twisted, sick thoughts of personal aggrandizement. Witness that pitiful and childish leap onto the aircraft carrier, wearing his pretend adult/warrior costume-"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”.

Meanwhile our soldiers, the true heroes, the true believers in the US Constitution, duped into believing they are actually defending this country and all it SHOULD stand for, are being killed and maimed. Are we ALL complicit by not asking the difficult questions? By not demanding accountability from those responsible?

#86686 by Chaseme on 7/13 at 1:03 pm;

Excellent analogy!
Thanks

“It is the unsettlement most magicians get when they haven’t practiced their disappearance trick enough to know that it will actually work before a large crowd. The nervous feeling of, “can we really pull it off?”

“You see, this group of magicians doesn’t have to fool everyone all the time. The backstage workers are getting paid to operate the trap doors and make sure the mattress is in place to catch the star performer.”

Although my nature tends to be sometimes naively trusting, from all the “Dirty deeds done dirt cheap” (except with this cabal of criminals in control rather expensive) I now react to this administration’s attempts at fearmongering by becoming highly suspicious. What is going on behind the scenes they are trying to distract our attention from? The most blatant example of the illusionist’s distraction is the events of 9/10/2001 & 9/11/2001.

On 9/10, a report came out the Defense Department had $2.7 TRILLION (that’s right TRILLION with a T) of military materials ‘missing’. How convenient was it that the events of 9/11 happened THE VERY NEXT DAY...coincidence? I doubt it.

Then there were the absurd ‘color coded’ alerts. Did anyone else ever notice that whenever something was going on in the legislature, or in the press, or at election time, or an expose of corruption, that might benefit this administration by the public having their heads turned in another direction, we were told to forget about that, but instead concentrate on being VERY fearful. 

It’s a sham, a scam, and lies meant to control us. The Nazis used the tactic and there is little difference between their playbook and that of the neo-CONS. Don’t buy into the belief these things are happening because of incompetence; this criminal administration knows exactly what they are doing, and have stated it publicly in PNAC, NWO, & AIPAC inspired papers about their philosophy.

Yes, the enemy has gotten stronger, but they wear suits instead of turbans, and most speak English rather than another language. All of them understand the languages of oil & fiat currency, however.

I don’t think the feeling Chertoff has involves his ‘gut’, but instead involves a protruding part of his anatomy external & located a bit lower, and it is aimed at us like a missile. Why am I inclined to believe the result for us will be yet another feeling for us that will be more rectal than internal?

“We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications,” a CIA official told a House committee Wednesday.”

That being the case, if CIA sees and knows ... why don’t they just shock and awe the beejeebees out of what they see and know?

“Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, whom the Bush administration considers a key ally in the “war on terror,” declines for political reasons to send troops into the region in pursuit of the terrorists. He also refuses to allow the United States to do so.”

Ah-ha ... that explains it!

“The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th,” President Bush insisted Wednesday.

But as Eugene so correctly points out, “those who planned and executed the Sept. 11 attacks are either dead, in U.S. custody or holed up in Pakistan. They are nowhere near Iraq.”

Unless ...
you cross over to the Conspiracy Theorist side. Then you realize they are indeed the same people, which would mean Bush is actually telling the truth!

I see a pattern here. We see them, we hear them, we know where they are. Only we don’t. And I suspect the same can be said to be true, pre-Iraq. But, as Mr. Bush so [fill in the blank] doesn’t remember ... we had the same intelligence flowing to us, pre-911. The intelligence Mr. Bush et all didn’t see. Not because it wasn’t to be seen, but because they chose to not see it.

Why?

Worked well for them. Mr. Bush played dumb, as did all the rest of them, claiming they had no idea. And yet “having no idea” immediately released the identity of said terrorists.

“The U.S. invasion did give inspiration and opportunity to terrorists who renamed their organization “Al-Qaida in Iraq” and pledged fealty to bin Laden and the real al-Qaida. That is Bush’s rationale for saying the two groups are the same, even though they’re really not.”

Unless you cross over ... [see above]

“Bush said he is determined to fight al-Qaida wherever he finds it.”

Could this be the guys way of letting us know how he plans to shut down America?

Or is this just the feeble rants of a feeble mind?

There was warning about 9-11.

Warnings were ignored.

There was opportunity to catch the alleged leader.

Opportunity ignored.

There has been no “second” 9-11 type attack.

Bush claims credit.

Chercoff has stomach ache and warns of new non-specific threat.

Bush claims will fight any threat.

CIA claims to know where threat is holed up.

Musharraf, a ‘key’ ally in the Global War On Terror, wont go after threat.

Bush wont go after threat because Musharraf is ‘key’ ally in aforementioned GWOT.
But ...  is ‘determined’ to fight al-Qaida wherever he finds it.

[Gives new meaning to the definition of ‘key’ and ‘determined’]

If there’s another 9-11 type attack ... Bush wins.

Or comes across as not seeing warnings, not acting on warnings and being labeled failure ... yet again.

If there is another 9-11 type attack ... Bush loses.

Or declares Martial Law and shuts down Congress.

Are we and our elected officials trapped in the biggest shell game ever played?

Or have we become so accustomed to witnessing the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party, that we don’t even realize we are moving through the nonsensical musings of a small mind trapped in a bad dream?

Either way, when you follow the goings on of them and us and them and them, it brings you full circle back to the center of our Keystone Cop government, where we find the star.
The shining ego clad in ... well, actually he’s stark naked.

The most powerful nation on earth?
We cant even get the Mouse out of the Teapot!

Meanwhile, main stream media valiantly plunges on, determined to make sense out of the nonsensical.

“Let’s hope that Michael Chertoff’s “gut feeling” that something bad will happen this summer is just the result of something he ate.”

Perhaps his queasy feeling stems from something his conscience is trying to digest.

The southern border is a sieve and cutting HS in half for Arizona allows not only Mexicans to gain illegal entry but Al-Qaeda operatives as well. No wonder he has a queasy gut. It is my opinion that Bush-Cheney are salivating over another 9/11 to justify their botching of Iraq and being able to say “ we told you so”. Just maybe 9/11 was known and used for the benefit of Bush and his cronies.
So how can he now justify the North American Union? This makes illegal entry even more inviting. From Border to border with no customs interference. Not only is this lunacy but it is criminal.

Ariel Sharon;Earth’s organic “dirty bomb”.

This much is true, neither dick bush or any of the rest of their talking heads, have ever admitted to the fact that they handed the original al-Qaeda the world on a plate, and provided the space and opportunity for them to become the martyrs they claim they want to be.

For years, the MSM has tried to confound us on who the “enemy” actually is in Iraq, giving us terms like “insurgents”, and rebels, and terrorists, and gunmen, and on and on. They’ve intentionally blurred all of these “enemies” never separating any of them, because they could never admit that none of these “elements” were in place in Iraq before.

So yeah, he should be ‘quesy’, because I’m ready to throw him under the jail as well.

Meantime, I don’t think anybody has a real clue to whether or not al-Qaeda has actually grown stronger, and nobody (including Chertoff) has provided the least bit of evidence, besides their already rotten guts.

Yeah, we know how easily somebody COULD plan an attack, and that’s been the case all along. There are still jillions of holes in our security. But then again, if al-Qaeda had wanted to jack us up that thoroughly to begin with, they could have headed those same airplanes just a bit further north, and bombed our nuclear operations further upstate. They certainly had far more dangerous targets than even what we saw happen to the WTC.

So, as far as I’m concerned, the jury hasn’t even heard the case for any “expanded terrorist growth” as attributed to the al-Qaeda types. They haven’t put anything out there that’s any different this time, than they have before. It’s like this al-Qaeda problem is perennial. They sort of bring out the “essence” of them, whenever we need a good scare, above and beyond the usual “shock and awe” that has become a chronic condition for us.