by cyrena on 6/17.....
“.....And, it’s not “immigration” that feeds the gang problem in LA, it’s uncontrolled “illegal” immigration, because the US Corporations have long since made it impossible for these people to make a living in their own country. That’s why they come here to begin with. And, it’s not like they have to come from far away, since they’ve pretty much been in the general area for centuries longer.....”

Interesting concept, and seems to be the theory of many. One wonders how this thread got into a discussion about the ‘surge bait & switch’ - but actually as we know they’re all connected - which equals: “Global Domination”, both militarily & economically. Home Depots’ just sold their global warehousing biz to Carlyle Group, etc - Can just imagine how expensive buiding materials are going to get now, so The Bush Crime Family can continue making a profit off their wars; and privatize our sacred lands & water - for profit only.

I did hear a rumour from a bi-lingual friend, citizen of U.S. but originally from Argentina. Apparently, Mexico is executing some of it’s own ‘ethnic cleansing’ by forcing the ‘browns’ out of MX because they are of Myan heritage—not ‘Spanish’, as in “Spain”. If this is true, or urban legend....it seems to make sense with everything else that’s going on...along with The Bush Crime Family’s veto to heal the regular folks via stem-cell research in the name of ‘God’ and instead implies that they have other ideas, or ‘formulas’ if you will—‘to create the perfect society’.

Hard not to get gloom & doom about all this - but to remain stupid would be the biggest crime.  Right, is Bloomberg gonna hook up with LeiberBush - or will Al Gore save the day with Michael Moore, running mate?!  (I’m joking here)

peace.

Gloom and Doom Hadley?

It just is not profitable for China to bankrupt and destroy the economy of the USA, so why would they? If we are too poor to buy their goods then they are poor as well.

I am not disagreeing that our economy is suffering under the dry drunk, deserter, frat boy, rodeo clown. Its just that , with our ten trillion dollar GNP the rest of the world needs a healthy US economy as much as we do.

We need to return to fiscal sanity, for the sake of our workers, our infrastructure and our children of course. But preaching the sky is falling is going a bit over the top.

J. Lewd says it all - total Snowjob. Why should we be surprised that the Surge might not work, and that Scrub will need more more more $$ and the spineless Democrats will cave in as usual. Meanwhile, back at the Ranch—while the Demo’s are giving our money away to the Arabs—CHINA calls the ‘loan’(s).

Hope all of you have plenty of supplies saved up, are off the grid, and have a cave full of gold to trade.

Mad Max here we ARE.  Earthquakes are easier to live thru than what’s ahead....

How depressing....

#79128 by Lefty on 6/18 at 9:11 pm

My enemy is Bush and the fascist, GOP!  Romanov the Bush’s! Death to the GOP!  Long live America!  How’s that grab you?  Asshole!

#79129 by Lefty on 6/18 at 9:13 pm

Matt, you are a fucking moron!

#79130 by Lefty on 6/18 at 9:16 pm

Matt, I’m beginning to think that you are one of the Truthdig, islamist, fundamentalist, Arab, propagandist brigade, like your buddy Robert aka “Abu the Kiffiyeh.” In any event, you are a fucking moron!

Why, oh why, would anyone want to post on this site when arrogant bullies fire off responses like this?

I had rather enjoyed the discourse and debate that was normal to this site.  I have actually learned from many of you.  But, the abusive language from some of the posters is so out of place for a healthy debate where everyone should have the chance to voice their opinion.  Emotion is understandable, these are generally critical issues, but this...this is over the top.

I expect to be savaged in response...so be it...I don’t cow to bullies; I also don’t respond.

Peace

So, Humble Servant is still out there I see, and telling us that it’s time to put up or shut up. Seeing as he has no power to force anyone to do either, I guess I’ll keep talking.

All the things that HS want’s us to email the Marines about, are things that most of them already know. Or, even if they DON’T know that they are there to work for Halliburton, and Dick Cheney, and all of the others of the Cabal, they ALSO don’t have any other valid reason for being there.

So, when they started asking a few years back, WHY they were actually there, and what it was that they were supposed to be doing, and who the “enemy” actually WAS, and what the “goal” was....ZIP. No answers...no answers that any rational mind can comprehend. Because, there IS no reason, other than the real reasons. The pursuit of profit and hegmony by the limited few that sent them there. They’ve been there long enough to know that the Iraqis aren’t “our” enemies. They’ve been there long enough to know that they aren’t “defending” US, or our Constitution, because we don’t need to be 6,000 miles from home in a foreign soverign nation, in order to “defend” the US. These soldiers and Marines have already figured out, that neither they, their families, or the rest of their fellow citizens back home, are going to receive ANY of the loot from the bounty of oil that they are there to get, on behalf of Halliburton, or any of the other transnationals.

They know these things, even if some are slower learners than others.

The only thing they are waiting to hear from us, is when we’re gonna get them the hell out of there.

It has grown tiresome to see apologists for this administration’s ill-conceived foreign escapades to disparage criticism of said policy as “not supporting the troops.” Convenient though it may be to those who utilize such a premise, it is more a failure of the realization that there is no longer any cohesive and justifiable argument in favor keeping our troops in Iraq any longer.

Supporting the troops isn’t about sitting on some stupid computer in your mother’s basement talking about how great they are, and how great the foreign policy is they are pawns of, or, how, no matter what, we’re behind you, because we’re behind BUSH!

One way of supporting the troops is to DISSENT. To put pressure on this delusional administration to keep our troops unnecessarily out of harms way. I am by no means a pacifist: we in NYC are still recovering from the emotional scars of 9-11, and we all recognize that there are people out there who would like to see that fateful day repeated.

But to blindly follow the path that has been put before us since then, in light of what the facts and history has shown otherwise, is plain folly.

The apologists (yes, YOU) who clearly do not have the facts on your side, still try to justify your views by your supposedly superior moral clarity. In fact, as you have so clearly illustrated here, you seek to suppress any opposing viewpoint by shielding your misbegotten dogmatism with the honor of our troops. Surely, you cannot actually believe that any criticism of this war is a direct attack on our troops? Is there no line between the policy and those that die for those policies?

YOU are despicable. Posting that link here in attempt to shame those who would disagree with your viewpoint. You merely expose yourself as a creature of politics, who, just like the Imbecile in the White House, is willing to sacrifice the troops to that self-serving end. THAT, my friend, is more disrespectful to those who serve in the uniform than anything that has been said heretofore on this board.

Re: #78454 by Matt on 6/15 at 8:22 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

The plan is:

We stay in Iraq (then also in Iran, Syria, etc.),

destroying and occupying Arab and Muslim countries,

to advance Israel’s vainglorious strategic goals,

forever -

or until we are destroyed

(whichever comes first).
===================================================
Matt, I’m beginning to think that you are one of the Truthdig, islamist, fundamentalist, Arab, propagandist brigade, like your buddy Robert aka “Abu the Kiffiyeh.” In any event, you are a fucking moron!

Re: #78454 by Matt on 6/15 at 8:22 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

The plan is:

We stay in Iraq (then also in Iran, Syria, etc.),

destroying and occupying Arab and Muslim countries,

to advance Israel’s vainglorious strategic goals,

forever -

or until we are destroyed

(whichever comes first).
===================================================
Matt, you are a fucking moron!

#78428 by Humble Servant on 6/15 at 7:05 pm
(26 comments total)

Here we haven’t even reached September, but the Democrats are waving the white flag saying the surge has failed.  Can liberals do anything else than surrender?  Guys, we are at war!!!  A war the Dems voted for.  Libs whining about the war only emboldens our enemies.

The quickest way to end the war is to defeat our enemies. 

As always,
Your Humble Servant
=====================================================
My enemy is Bush and the fascist, GOP!  Romanov the Bush’s! Death to the GOP!  Long live America!  How’s that grab you?  Asshole!

ocjim is probably correct in that we should simply ignore his sophomoric rants. When directly asked to verify the stupidity he posts as fact he fails each and every time to do so.

He does, however, serve one purpose here in that he verifies the incredible ignorance of those who buy Bushs’ lies. Some of the garbage he posts could be from The Onion, that bastion of sarcasm and humor.

He might be made aware that, every day, veterans of the Iraqi invasion are criticising the Bush administration and the war effort louder and louder.

If he was truly what he thinks he is we might see the responses to the questions posed, or the facts in refutation of the almost mythic ignorance of his political citings, but, alas we dont. He probably runs sniggering back to freerepublic.com where all the acne scarred losers unable to get an actual date hang.

I assume that Humble Servant loves all the attention he is getting and those who respond to him are like Pavlovian dogs taking the bait he parcels out.

Okay folks, time to put up or shut up.

You sit here on this mental circle-jerk known as Truthdig.  You mentally masturbate each other by convincing each other that you are smarter than everyone else.  That you know more about what’s going on in Iraq than everyone else.  You are so sure that W lied about the war, yet you don’t want to look at the fact that Dems said the same things when Clinton was prez. 

You don’t like the fact that I say you hate America.  Here’s your chance to prove me wrong.  Black Five blog, http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/06/roundtable_with.html, had an article on how you can email the Marines overseas.  Please tell them how they are fighting an illegal war.  Tell them how they are fighting for a lie.  Tell them how you support the Dems insulting the military. 

Mike the Dick, tell them how they are abetting the enemy.  I bet they would really appreciate knowing that.  ardee, please tell them how they are oppressing the Iraqi people.  Crimson Ghost, tell them how they are committing war crimes.  felicity, tell them how they are inflicting suffering on the Iraqi people.  QuyTran, tell them how you do not want them finishing their job.  Mudwollow, tell them how they are fighting for the military complex.  Steve Hammons, tell them how they are fighting for Halliburton. 

Here’s the email:  RCT-6lettersfromh at gcemnf-wiraq dot usmc dot mil

Ask them to read your comments here and see if they think you support them or whether you care about this country.  I’m sure they will realize how much smarter you are then they. 

My guess, you’ll too scrotless to do it.  It’s too easy for you to hide out here like the pansy you are.

As Always,
Your Humble Servant

The Bush-Cheney administration and their cronies who are profiting from the occupation of Iraq, or covering their butts from the terrible errors involved, will sacrifice many more American troops’ lives before this is over.

The American people might want to look very closely and deeply into this situation.

More on this in . . .

“‘Dumbing down’ of Americans may not be working”

PopulistAmerica.com
Populist Party of America
June 14, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/dumbing_down_of_america ns_may_not_be_working

#78709 by ardee on 6/17 at 7:18 am

“Boxer and Feinstein actually campaigned for Lieberman during the primaries in Vermont and Clinton raised money for him as well.”

That Sir, is enough to gag a maggot. But thank you for telling us.

To my challenged mind, this makes Boxer and Feinstein even lower life forms then Joe (kill babies and Americans for Israel) Lieberman.

Miss Clinton would assume the form of a maggot if it gained her a vote.

Got to revolution.

For Cyrena:
re:“Unlike Boxer, Reid, Schumer, Salazar, Obama and Clinton, who all supported the newly freed neo con artist Joe Lieberman over the anti-war voice of Ned Lamont."…

Boxer and Feinstein actually campaigned for Lieberman during the primaries in Vermont and Clinton raised money for him as well. I remember emailing both of my Senators expressing my chagrin at their support for someone who refused to support them in the Senate. Collegiality aside this is very difficult to understand, especially as Lieberman is not only a roadblock to Democratic action but threatens the tenuous majority.

When Joe first ran for the Senate he ran against an eighteen year incumbant. He said it was “time for a change.” Ironic that, after his own eighteen years, he only changed parties.

For G. Anderson...I don’t have any argument with you on most of this stuff, including Feinstein. I can think of other’s that probably need to go before she does, (I mean, looking at the overall picture) but I’ll agree that the immigration law is only to protect the corporations, and continue to provide cheap labor for them.

And, it’s not “immigration” that feeds the gang problem in LA, it’s uncontrolled “illegal” immigration, because the US Corporations have long since made it impossible for these people to make a living in their own country. That’s why they come here to begin with. And, it’s not like they have to come from far away, since they’ve pretty much been in the general area for centuries longer than the rest of us.

It’s a problem because the urban and economic environment has already deteriorated so much, that the addition of all of these EXTRA people, (without a means to support themselves) begin competing for jobs and resources that are already in short supply. It’s not actually a new phenomena.

Gangs are an outgrowth of the larger picture.... A depressed society. When we see that a more overall distribution of the economy would fix this, then maybe it will be fixed. I don’t hold out a lot of hope on that, because I believe the Oligarchy will simply never die.

But, as long as have 80% of the population competing for 10% of the resources,(which is all that’s left for them to divide up, because the wealthy have the rest)gangs are gonna be a problem. They’re gonna run drugs and steal in order to survive, and that’s the stuff that generally leads to gang activities.

It wasn’t a problem when it only affected the black and brown communities, because nobody much cared. (except of course the people trying to LIVE in those communities) But now of course the hijacking of our government has spread the strife to include the formerly middle class white communities as well. Ergo, there’s a “problem” now. The immigration law won’t fix that, since it is in fact punitive.

I don’t see anything wrong with locking up general criminals though. The problem is that the police force in the L.A. area is not historically known for being able to tell the difference between a person perpetuating an act of gang violence, and a black or brown person just walking down the street minding their own business. So, a “gang injunction” is likely to be equally worthless, since the only thing likely to come of that is more gang violence.

For what it’s worth, I watched Feinstein, holding hearings on Gangs in Washington, with Bratton, and Villagraosa..

She was trying to get funding for anti gang legislation, a bill she’s working on.

I found it a contradiction, that she supports the Amnesty bill, because one of the driving forces behind Gangs is immigration.

This fact has been observed for decades in L.A., that immigration feeds Gangs.

The Amnesty bill, doesn’t really help anyone, except corporations who will benefit from keeping immigrants under their thumb, if we’re going to bring them into our country, then we should treat them with respect and not make them struggle for 7 years to become citizens.

We should make it happen in 6 months to a year and let them compete on an equal basis with every other American worker.

But we’re not going to do that, because this bill is designed to expoit them, it talks out of both sides of it’s mouth.

It says we’re a nation of immigrants, but they came here illegally so they have to be punished, that’s just a lie, it’s all about making sure they work for slave wages.

Diane has her priorities all wrong, her priorities in Iraq and here in California.

She is a professional politician, much like Gray Davis, who is out of touch with what’s happening to the people here in California.

We need her to be recalled.

Hazmag...from yesterday I know (78350)you wrote:

“Unlike Boxer, Reid, Schumer, Salazar, Obama and Clinton, who all supported the newly freed neo con artist Joe Lieberman over the anti-war voice of Ned Lamont."…

This was in response to the Feinstein critics. I was just curious, because I wasn’t aware of this “support” for Lieberman, vs Ned Lamont, from all of these other CALIFORNIA, NY and Illinois Senators. I mean, unless any of these Democrats hold dual citizenship between their home states and Conneticut, I’m not sure how their “support” for Lieberman over Ned Lamont could be “tallied” or otherwise calculated, unless you look at their vote.
And, unless they are voting in Conneticut as well as their own states, how else would we know if they supported Lieberman? And if any of them are voting in Connecticut’s election for Senate Representation, then something is even more seriously wrong than we’ve already discovered.

Meantime, I’m still curious about how you know that these people have all “supported” Liberman the slime, over Ned Lamonte?

Mudwallow....Thanks for the oil map. (I LOVE maps/charts)

#78568 by Humble Servant on 6/16 at 12:32 pm
(25 comments total)

You accuse me of spouting the party line, but are you America-haters do is sit around on forums like this and bash America, our soldiers, and our war effort.  You do nothing more than aid and abet our enemies.  I bet Al Qaeda just loves reading your posts on this site.  It must really encourage them to continue fighting.  And, in your arrogance, you actually think you are right in your actions

BTW, Mike the Dyke, I have honorably served America in the military

OK act like a dumbass all you want, no skin off my ass. Could you post one such example of America hating found on this site? Just one you slime trail leaving zombie eyed lockstep follower of an ideology that despises you more than you can imagine...just one.

Humpwhole servant. You sure get a lot of nasty responses. Good on you for stirring up liberal pansies. Liberals are more reprehensible than conservatives. Liberals are the ones who just can’t quite bring themselves to consider something as nasty as impeachment. Conservatives on the other hand have no problem lying through their teeth and stabbing their best friend in the back. I love conservatives. Even though they wouldn’t recognize conservation if I were wrapped in dollar bills.

You accuse me of spouting the party line, but are you America-haters do is sit around on forums like this and bash America, our soldiers, and our war effort.  You do nothing more than aid and abet our enemies.  I bet Al Qaeda just loves reading your posts on this site.  It must really encourage them to continue fighting.  And, in your arrogance, you actually think you are right in your actions

BTW, Mike the Dyke, I have honorably served America in the military.

The MAP

http://www.oilempire.us/new-map.html

#78428 by Humble Servant on 6/15 at 7:05 pm
(23 comments total)

Here we haven’t even reached September, but the Democrats are waving the white flag saying the surge has failed.  Can liberals do anything else than surrender?  Guys, we are at war!!!  A war the Dems voted for.  Libs whining about the war only emboldens our enemies.

The quickest way to end the war is to defeat our enemies. 

As always,
Your Humble Servant

Goodness, (not at all) humble, Are you simply content to spout the party line regardless of truth or actual fact? Does it give you some kind of warm (possibly sexual) sensation to memorize and cite that which is lie, distortion or half truth? Are you so desperate to feel a sense of belonging that you would ally yourself to those who care not one whit for you but use you shamelessly to further enrich themselves at the expense of our nation?

You have a longish history of simplistic and thoughtless citing of propaganda that fails the test of accuracy, I wonder why?

Citing fact is not at all “waving the white flag”, in fact refusal on your part to understand what is occuring in Iraq is a far greater surrender, that of surrendering everything our founders fought and died to achieve.

True many democrats voted for the invasion of Iraq, something that all progressives should deplore. But the intelligence reports were so falsified, at the behest of Cheney and Bolton,that Democrats were operating under false information. Those two execrable individuals were reported to have visited CIA analysts daily, pressuring them to twist the facts to suit their purpose. Many of those folks, some with over twenty years of service, quit rather than commit such dishonesty.

I do not give the Democrats a pass but place the real blame where it obviously belongs, upon those who actively lied and by lying gained what they should not have been otherwise able to achieve, a war to further profit and to scare us all into allowing the subversion of our constitution.

Your stuff is designed to do exactly what, I wonder? Your every post is filled with garbage long ago dislosed to be bull shit, frankly, thus the obvious conclusion is less than favorable to your own intellect. Are you really such a sheep as all of that?

Here we haven’t even reached September, but the Democrats are waving the white flag saying the surge has failed.  Can liberals do anything else than surrender?  Guys, we are at war!!!  A war the Dems voted for.  Libs whining about the war only emboldens our enemies.

The quickest way to end the war is to defeat our enemies. 

As always,
Your Humble Servant

Mid City Mike:
Its Feinstein by the way and , while a great majority of Democrats are guilty of failure to stand up against this abysmal war for profit, including our Senator, shouldnt the bulk of our email and distain go to the leadership of the party, Pelosi and Reid?

Divissive, B-partisan - Cowardice, vacillation, and down right expiediency.

Neville Chamberlin pointed the way for Feinstien, meanwhile our children are dying, do you even care?

It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who pays attention that BushCo uses all the tools of propaganda to accomplish its purposes. Karl Rove sees no need to demonstrate an integrity he never had. Machiavelli methods have been rendered obsolete as Rove has risen to a new level of justifying any amoral action with the goals of BushCo. Keeping control over Iraqi oil was always a goal that BushCo will not forsake. The focus on protecting oil over Iraqi lives was always tantamount in Bush policy. The embassy and the bases in Iraq are proof of his long-term goals of remaining there for the oil.

Moore called Bush the fictitious president for a reason. From the get-go, this has been a bait and switch administration. Dreamed up and played well by Karl Rove no doubt. And why not, the news media and much of the public continues to buy the same old bait and switch tactics over and over again. The idea that George Bush and his administration are incompetent is really a bait and switch tactic. We are incompetent, it wasn’t our fault. We are in charge so get out of our way or we’ll squash you. Compassionate conservatism is the bait. Unbelievable cold heartedness is the switch.

-#78339 by Mike Mid-City on 6/15 at 11:31 am

Mike, if you’ll check the record Senator Feinstein has been a champion for democracy, and for a fair and balanced approach to our foreign policies. 

Unlike Boxer, Reid, Schumer, Salazar, Obama and Clinton, who all supported the newly freed neo con artist Joe Lieberman over the anti-war voice of Ned Lamont.

Well… if Bush/Cheney/Rummy et.al. had plannned on how to make the oil in Iraq “if not ours, nobody else’s”, they couldn’t have done a better job.

WaPo and others are a little behind in their ‘bait and switch’ analysis.
Last week, Lieutenant-General Martin Dempsey the outgoing head of U.S.-led efforts to reconstruct Iraq’s security forces over the past 22 months gave a much more candid and bizarre assessment.
On the one hand he says “..Iraqi security forces should be in a position to take control of 14 of Iraq’s 18 provinces by year’s end, although they will not be ready to fight on their own for some time”
-in essence he’s saying “we gave them guns but they don’t know how to shoot yet.

Then he says.."I’m a little concerned about ...[the remaining four provinces] Baghdad, Diyala, Salahaddin, Anbar.”

Wow! Just a little concerned is he?
Those four provinces house over 11,000,000 of the most militant Iraqis in all of Iraq’s total population of 27,000,000.

And what of Dempsey’s successes over the past 22 months supporting the logic behind ‘the surge’? --The surge of more Americans lives apparently needed to hold up the limp bodied Iraqi’s and pull their triggers for them?
“...the first “tranche” of Iraqi soldiers had been “frankly disastrous”.
“Not enough of them decided to deploy, they left more than half the unit behind. But we did not prep them very well. We asked them to go to Baghdad, but we didn’t tell them why very well, we didn’t tell them how long they would be there.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSCOL04729620 070610?pageNumber=1
At least he shows concerns for the Iraqis troops morale and welfare.

And I can’t finish this without throwing in the worst bait-and switch tactic ever by the Democrats in Congress.
Back in March the new Hoyer and Emanuel run Congress removed the Iran provision from another spending bill, requiring Bush to seek Congressional approval before an attack on Iran, on the grounds of strengthening the troop withdrawal provisions and benchmarks.

Since then they’ve not only approved the surge for more troops and stripped all troop withdrawal language, in its grandest switchaaroo of all, at leader Hoyers insistance, they sided with Bush and Exxon to steal Iraqis’s oil.

And that’s the despicable truth of it all..

WaPo is a little behind in their ‘bait and switch’ analysis.
Last week, Lieutenant-General Martin Dempsey the outgoing head of U.S.-led efforts to reconstruct Iraq’s security forces over the past 22 months gave a much more candid and bizarre assessment.
On the one hand he says “..Iraqi security forces should be in a position to take control of 14 of Iraq’s 18 provinces by year’s end, although they will not be ready to fight on their own for some time”
-in essence he’s saying “we gave them guns but they don’t know how to shoot yet.

Then he says.."I’m a little concerned about ...[the remaining four provinces] Baghdad, Diyala, Salahaddin, Anbar.”

Wow! Just a little concerned is he?
Those four provinces house over 11,000,000 of the most militant Iraqis in all of Iraq’s total population of 27,000,000.

And what of Dempsey’s successes over the past 22 months supporting the logic behind ‘the surge’? --The surge of more Americans lives apparently needed to hold up the limp bodied Iraqi’s and pull their triggers for them?
“...the first “tranche” of Iraqi soldiers had been “frankly disastrous”.
“Not enough of them decided to deploy, they left more than half the unit behind. But we did not prep them very well. We asked them to go to Baghdad, but we didn’t tell them why very well, we didn’t tell them how long they would be there.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSCOL04729620 070610?pageNumber=1

His concerns for the Iraqis troops morale and welfare are touching. 

And I can’t finish this without throwing in the worst bait-and switch tactic ever by the Democrats in Congress.
Back in March the new Hoyer and Emanuel run Congress removed the Iran provision from another spending bill, requiring Bush to seek Congressional approval before an attack on Iran, on the grounds of strengthening the troop withdrawal provisions and benchmarks.

Since then they’ve not only approved the surge for more troops and stripped all troop withdrawal language, in its grandest switchaaroo of all, at leader Hoyers insistance, they sided with Bush and Exxon to steal Iraqis’s oil.

And that’s the despicable truth of it all..

Oh crap!  The first two of three comments are intellectual bullshit!  This is off to a very bad start...over and out...you guys just don’t get it!!!!

Apparently this is because Generals Petraus, and Pace weren’t fully candid with the adminstration about what was happeing in Iraq.

Does anyone believe this?

So, because of our military leaders, our children are getting chewed up in Iraq.

It’s all someone else’s falt. I can’t believe that our military leaders are going to keep taking it from an admistration, that doesn’t have a firm grip on morality. That still thinks it can lie, cheat and steal it’s way to victory.

Bush has run the military into the ground, then he turns around and blames them for what he did.

Is there anything here that is “surprising”, “shocking”, “beyond belief”, “no longer acceptable”, “the last straw”, “more evidence of blah, blah, blah”?

Then shame on you, shame on you!  There should not be one more word spoken unless it is a call to action!  Fuck all of the rhetoric!!!

Look it up (the word “action") in the dictionary...it is obvious we like to beat our gums but we do not like to actually DO something.  Doing something means getting off of your ass and “doing” something otherwise known as action!!!

Get a grip and look at what’s going on here!  For the first time in my 62 years; I see a real possibility of us losing our very real freedom...no shit Sherlock!

You can piss and moan about a lot of crap...but who of us is really ready to give up our hard won freedoms?  That would dishonour every soldier and civilian who died in WWII...that’s about 30 million people...do you really care about that or do you just want to piss about?  This is the time...it really is the time...make a decision...or just shut up and go away...do something useful in your life for once!

From a psychological perspective, the Bush/Cheney administration and its neocon allies succeeded in promoting the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting our core concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, they will likely try to sell us a continuing occupation of Iraq—or an attack on Iran—in much the same way. I examine these warmongering appeals and how to counter them in a new 10-minute video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War.” It’s available for viewing on YouTube HERE.