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Posted on May 22, 2007
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President Bush and Attorney General Gonzales pledge their allegiance to the flag at the Police Officers’ Memorial Ceremony in Washington, D.C., May 15.

By Robert Scheer

Let me offer a word in defense of Alberto R. Gonzales now that a majority of U.S. senators, including six Republicans, are poised to demand his resignation as the nation’s top law enforcement officer. The breaking point was last week’s revelation by former Deputy Attorney General James B. Comey that Gonzales paid a rude nighttime visit to then-U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft’s intensive-care hospital room.

The goal of bursting into the hospital and alarming Ashcroft’s wife, in a scene reminiscent of “The Godfather,” was to obtain the signature of the semiconscious attorney general upon a document renewing an electronic eavesdropping program that Ashcroft’s Justice Department had concluded was not legal. Gonzales had lied about this secret program in Senate testimony when he claimed that it was not regarded as controversial within the administration; actually, it was so controversial that officials at Justice, from the attorney general to the FBI director, had threatened to resign in protest if it were renewed.

But don’t blame Gonzales; he’s just another lightweight zealot exploited by the Cheney White House. Not that Gonzales isn’t a thoroughly loathsome character deserving of Senate rebuke and worse. He has been party to dragging this nation down in the eyes of the world, ordering and justifying torture while shredding the limitations on imperious governance that have been the hallmark of American liberty. Yet while the man has been associated with a pernicious assault on our freedoms, he has never been the independent actor, but rather a dutiful toady carrying out the wishes of a tightly monitored White House with the blessings of the president.

That Gonzales was doing the Bush administration’s bidding, authorized on the highest level, was well documented in last week’s Senate hearing. Gonzales was accompanied by then White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card in his nighttime assault on Ashcroft’s hospital room—a surprise visit which, according to Comey’s testimony, was most likely facilitated by a call from the president to Ashcroft’s wife, who stood in frightened vigil over her husband’s semicomatose body. After a suddenly alert Ashcroft managed to lift his head from the pillow and condemn their chicanery before lapsing back into semiconsciousness, it was Card who ordered Comey to go immediately to the White House that night for a dressing down for opposing the president. And President Bush had a private meeting with Comey the next morning to prevent his imminent resignation, as well as that of the head of the FBI and other top Justice Department officials, including Ashcroft.

In the most damning moment of his testimony, Comey recounted how Ashcroft’s wife, who had banned all visitors from her husband’s room, called the attorney general’s chief of staff, alarmed that she had received a call from the White House informing her that Gonzales and Card were on their way to the hospital. “I was very upset,” Comey recalled. “I thought I had just witnessed an effort to take advantage of a very sick man.” When asked if he had an idea where the call came from, Comey testified: “I have some recollection that the call was from the president himself, but I don’t know that for sure. It came from the White House.” In any case, the president clearly didn’t disapprove of Gonzales’ tactics, because he subsequently promoted him to attorney general.

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Comey was a highly respected prosecutor before being appointed by Bush to the No. 2 spot at the Justice Department. It should have alarmed Bush that Comey was so worried about Gonzales’ thuggish behavior that he asked FBI Director Robert Mueller to instruct his agents at the hospital not to allow Gonzales to remove Comey from the room, and that Comey would not meet with the White House staff after this incident unless Solicitor General Theodore Olson was present as a witness.

Having researched and written scenes for Oliver Stone’s movie “Nixon,” a devastating portrait of what we then presumed was the low point in the history of the American presidency, I can well predict the good use that a future screenwriter will make of this hospital scene to document the frightening reality, first effectively outlined in a book by John Dean, that the assault on American representative democracy during the Bush years has been “Worse Than Watergate.” Dean was the White House counsel who broke with Nixon over that president’s betrayal of the U.S. Constitution and who revealed the truth in a subsequent Senate hearing. By contrast, as Bush’s counsel, Gonzales eagerly abetted White House crime, lied to the Senate and was rewarded for that behavior. The real culprit here, as in Watergate, is the president of the United States.

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By carlito paquito aka av guy, July 29, 2007 at 9:29 am Link to this comment
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no good. no bad. misguided&fear; no faith, jon stewart and steve colbert taking care of business. carlito paquito aka av guy

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By national-security-4-us, June 4, 2007 at 12:30 am Link to this comment

E.O.13083 WRITTEN BY CLINTON ON 5/14/1998 states any attack real/perceived or “IMAGINED”

CONGRESS CAN’T DEBATE ORDERS 4-6 MONTHS.

I NEED HELP IN FINDING A CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY 2 FIGHT MY CASE ON THOSE WHO COMMITTED CRIMES = 2
“TREASON”

1/20/2009 THERE “WON’T BE” A CHANGE OF PRESIDENTS-
LANGUAGE IN ORDERS GIVES bush THE POWER 2 STAY IN OFFICE 4-EVER BY RE-INSTITUTING THE E.O./PRESIDENTIAL
DIRECTIVES.

LANGUAGE’S SO DIABOLICAL/SINISTER/EVIL IT’S PLAIN
2 SEE/READ/UNDERSTAND/COMPREHEND.

A(MWT)WAS CAPTURED/EVENTUALLY RELEASED/DUMPED IN SOMALIA 1/2007 2 B KILLED SO THAT HIS SECRETS GO 2 THE GRAVE W/HIM SO THE WORLD NEVER FINDS OUT THE TRUTH.

bush/co. NEEDS 2 B “IMPEACHED NOW”-B-4 he GETS THE
CHANCE 2 UNLEASH his TYRANNICAL DICTATORSHIP ON US   ALL-THAT SCALES IN COMPARISON 2 WHAT HITLER DID.

THIS SATANIC INSPIRED/POSSESSED DEMON/COHORTS CAN DESTROY AMERICAS’FUTURE IN THE BLINK OF A EYE-BY IMPLEMENTING THESE ORDERS THAT SUSPEND THE U.S.
CONSTITUTION/BILL OF RIGHTS INSTANTLY.

GEN.FRANKS SPOKE ABOUT A ATTACK ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD
CAN BRING THIS INTO FRUITION.

READ ABOUT THE TRUTH HERE

http://national-security-4u.blogspot.com/ - 911 call

http://low_down69.livejournal.com/ - call 2 harm me

http//360.yahoo.com/caspereraser1 - O.P.R. LETTER +


LAWYERS I’VE CALLED IN THE PAST-I BELIEVE WERE SENT
“NSL’s” 2 NOT TAKE MY CASE/WERE LIKELY INTIMIDATED/
MANIPULATED/THREATENED SOMEHOW NOT 2 TAKE MY CASE.

I GOT THE MOTHER OF ALL CASES.

14TH AMENDMENT SEC.4 SAYS-“BOUNTIES MUST B PAID 4
SERVICES RENDERED”

“PUBLIC LAW-98-533” - 1984 CONGRESS LAW 2 AUTHORIZE THE U.S.STATE DEPT. 2 PUT REWARDS ON THOSE THOUGHT 2 B TERRORISTS-W/CONGRESS APPROVING FUNDS 4 PAYMENT.

5/29/2004 FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED+AAFIA SIDDIQUI WERE
CAPTURED AT 6 PM IN PSL,FLA.

AHMED KHALFAN GHAILANI WAS FOUND LIKE 7-8 WKS. LATER
AFTER I CALLED MIAMI-FBI W/INTEL ON A VEHICLE I SAW HIM IN-HE’S FLOWN 2 PAKISTAN 2 GET OUT OF HIS REWARD.

BOTH F.A.M./A.K.G. HAD $25 MIL REWARDS EACH WHICH
CHANGED TWICE AFTER BOTH WERE IN CUSTODY.

BOTH HAD LAPTOPS-RESULTING IN MORE ARRESTS GLOBALLY AFTER BEING HACKED INTO-IN THE FALL OF 2004 W/BOUNTY RAMIFICATIONS.

THE CRIMES MANY IN GOVT. DID 2 COVER IT UP AMOUNTS 2 “TREASON”/TREASON’S WORTHY OF DEATH.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE/THE WORLD NEEDS 2 KNOW THE TRUTH
THEY WON’T TELL YOU-4 A # OF REASONS I CAN THINK OF
WERE THEY HERE INTENTIONALLY/THEFT OF THE REWARD $/
INCOMPETENCE/OTHERS.

MY FELLOW AMERICANS WHO READ THIS-PLEASE HELP ME SPREAD THE WORD-THIS MATTER ALONE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH
2 GET THEM ALL REMOVED FROM OFFICE.

bush “MUST” B REMOVED NOW B-4 he UNLEASHES THIS PLAN
2 ENSLAVE US ALL/AMERICA WILL B DESTROYED 4-EVER.

NOT 2 MENTION WHAT’LL BECOME OF US ALL-IF YOU’RE NOT PART OF THE N.W.O.-YOU’RE NOT PART OF THE PICTURE/
PLAN.

THIS IS SERIOUS SHIT HERE-IT’S NOT A JOKE-IT’S BEEN BREWING SLOWLY BUT SURELY 4 SOME TIME NOW.

SPREAD THE TRUTH EVERYWHERE-COPY/PASTE ALL OVER THE PLACE-EVERY-1 NEEDS 2 KNOW THE TRUTH.

MY LIFE WAS TOTALLY DESTROYED 4 DOING THE RIGHT THING
EXACTLY WHAT ASHCROFT/MUELLER ASKED ALL OF US 2 DO WHICH WAS HELP FIND THESE PEOPLE B-4 THEY’D STRIKE AGAIN.

I DO EAXCTLY THAT/MY LIFE’S RUINED 4 RUINING SOME-1’s
GAME PLAN 2 DESTROY/TAKE OVER AMERICA SEIZING BY
FORCE/TERROR ATTACK.

READ THE E.O./PRES.DIR. YOURSELF - IT’S E-Z-2 READ BETWEEN THE LINES/SEE WHAT’S COMING/WHERE AMERICA’S GOING.

IT CAN HAPPEN IN THE BLINK OF A EYE - THE LANGUAGE’S
ALREADY “WRITTEN-SIGNED-SEALED-DELIVERED”-IT AWAITS
“IMPLEMENTATION”


I’M IN “DIRE” NEED OF A CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY.

WROTE O.P.R.-bush DENIED DOJ OFFICIALS SECURITY CLEARANCES 2 INVESTIGATE MY CLAIMS I TRULY BELIEVE.

WROTE DOJ’s CIVIL RIGHTS DIV. ABOUT EVERYTHING BOTH WERE 3 PAGE LETTERS.

HOUSE/SEN.INTEL./JUDIC.COMM. MEMBERS = NOTHING

NO INVESTIGATION-NO RESPONSE-NOTHING.

SERIOUS CRIMINALITY SURPASSING THE HIGHEST CRIMES/
MISDERMEANORS-WHICH DEMAND ACCOUNTABLITY.

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By Michael Shaw, June 3, 2007 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment

IE…. US Detention camps….I once had an interview with a very bright young woman who said if you “scream” at people they won’t hear you! She was referring to massive emails sent to government officials, most of which end up in the spam bucket. That said, the contracts for Kellog Brown and Root are real and what is even more scary is what has come to follow. The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

The president has given himself emergency powers he can declare from any event he himself deems as a national emergency, including a flood or earthquake.  What’s real scary about all of this is when he enacts these powers, congress and the judiciary are rendered mute.

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By national-security-4-us, June 3, 2007 at 1:28 pm Link to this comment

YOU KNOW WHAT SCUFF I MEAN SCRUB - YOU JUST CAN’T
HANDLE THE TRUTH OR THE FACTS AS THEY ARE SO PLAINLY
WRITTEN ON THE WALL 4 ALL 2 SEE…

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By Skruff, June 3, 2007 at 6:13 am Link to this comment
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74939 by national-security-4-us on 6/03 at 12:56 am

“AS 4 THE CAPS THAT IS JUST MORE BRAIN-DEAD MAN INSPIRED JARGON - I HAVE THE RIGHT 2 TYPE IN ALL SMALL - ALL CAPS OR BOTH - THERE IS NO FUCKING 11TH
COMMANDMENT SAYING - “THOU MUST TYPE APPROPRIATELY &
SHALL NEVER TYPE IN ALL CAPITOL LETTERS”

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK GET OVER THE SMALL SHIT & READ THE FACTS… “

Of course you are right.  Keep typing in caps, it makes it easier for me to skip over your ubiquitous posts to something coherant.

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By national-security-4-us, June 3, 2007 at 3:02 am Link to this comment

fbi.gov/page2/may04/bolo052604.htm

GO 2 FBI.GOV - COPY & PASTE ADDRESS ABOVE & YOU WILL
SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT HOPEFULLY THIS LINK WORKS


THE ABOVE ADDRESS IS CORRECT CAUSED I JUST SEARCHED/
FOUND IT AFTER SOME CREATIVE THINKING 2 FIND IT…

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By national-security-4-us, June 3, 2007 at 2:59 am Link to this comment

http://fbi.gov/page2/may04/bolo052604.htm

THEY MAY HAVE THE POWER 2 CRUSH ME/US - BUT THEY WILL
NEVER HAVE THE POWER 2 OUTSMART ME…

HOPEFULLY THIS LINK WORKS…

3 IN BLACK & WHITE ARE THE 3 I’M TALKING ABOUT - WHEN
I GOT HOLD OF THIS - BANG THE EVIDENCE WAS STARING ME IN THE FACE…

COLOR SHOT = ACTIVE ON THE LOOSE.
BLACK & WHITE = CAUGHT/CAPTURED/KILLED

I’M SURE PAGE WILL VANISH SOON - HOPE THEY LEAVE IT
SINCE THIS IS 4 WE THE PEOPLE 2 KNOW ALL ABOUT…

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By national-security-4-us, June 3, 2007 at 2:45 am Link to this comment

WELL IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE FROM THE bush COMPOUND ARE
READING THIS BECAUSE DAYS AFTER MY POST - THEY AGAIN
ORDERED GUNSHIPS NEAR OR AROUND SOMALIA 2 TAKE OUT THAT TERRORIST WHO WAS CAPTURED IN P.S.L,FLA. & WAS LET GO 2 BE TARGETED 4 DEATH & HE GOT AWAY = 1/2007..

HOW DID THEY KNOW HE WAS THERE - BECAUSE THEY DUMPED HIM THERE - IF YOU NOTICED AT 1ST LIGHT OF THE RECENT
BREAKING OF THIS NEWS - THEY DID NOT MENTION HIS NAME
THIS TIME…

I FIND IT AMAZING THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY
WHERE THESE CAPTURES TOOK PLACE & ALL THOSE SO-CALLED
SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WHOSE DUTY IT IS 2 UPHOLD THE LAW WITH HONOR/INTEGRITY & WHATEVER OTHER
DECENT MORALS ARE ALLOWING A FEDERAL GOVT. THAT HAS
PLAYED “CATCH & RELEASE” WITH A MOST WANTED TERRORIST
WHO WAS UNDER U.S.FED.INDICTMENT AT THE TIME OF HIS CAPTURE - WHO ARE REMAINING SILENT ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

DO THESE STUPID MOTHER FUCKERS EVEN KNOW OR DO THEY FEAR LOSING THEIR CAREER/JOB/PENSION IF THEY WERE 2
SPEAK-UP/OUT——WELL THOSE KIND OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO NOT BELONG IN THEIR JOBS ANY LONGER WHEN YOU ALLOW THOSE IN FEDERAL GOVT. 2 CONTROL YOU & YOUR
ACTIONS 2 BORDER ON THE DELIBERATELY KNOWING & NOT TELLING WHICH IS CRIMINAL…

AT THE TIME OF THE CAPTURE IT SEEMS THE SHERIFF DEPT.
WAS DEAF/DUMB & BLIND 2 THE 5/26/2004 PRESS CONF. OR
WAS IT MAYBE THESE PEOPLE WERE HERE INTENTIONALLY 2
DO WHAT THE MISSION WAS - ATTACK =ED A EXECUTIVE ORDER BEING IMPLEMENTED TO SUSPEND THE CONSTITUTION/
BILL OF RIGHTS - IMPLEMENT MARTIAL LAW & DESTROY THE
ECONOMY BY IMPRISONING PEOPLE 2 THE CONFINES OF ONES’
OWN HOME WITH ONLY THE EXECUTIVE/JUDICIAL BRANCH,THE
MILITARY & LAW ENFORCEMNT AS THE ONLY PEOPLE WORKING
BEING EMPLOYED COLLECTING MONEY…

WELL I FUCKED THAT UP & RUINED THAT FROM COMING INTO FRUITION - “HALLELUIA” - HOWEVER I AM NOT IN THE POSITION 2 STOP IT AGAIN THE NEXT TIME - WHENEVER THIS WELL ORCHESTRATED PLAN IS SET 2 OCCUR - BELIEVE
IT’ COMING…

THIS TERRORIST FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED MUST BE KILLED
SO ALL HE KNOWS GOES 2 THE GRAVE WITH HIM - OBVIOUSLY
2 ME HE DID NOT BREAK OR CRACK AFTER 30 MONTHS OF DETENTION/TORTURE…

IT IS PRETTY FUCKING SAD WHEN GOVT. OFFICIALS LIKE ASHCROFT & MUELLER CAME ON TV & LITERALLY BEGGED ALL
AMERICANS 2 HELP US FIND THESE PEOPLE B-4 IT WAS 2 LATE & THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I DID & MY LIFE IS UTTERLY
DESTROYED/DECIMATED 4 DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY ASKED..

YOU SEE F.A.M. & AHMED KHALFAN GHAILANI-THE ONE FLOWN 2 PAKISTAN 2 GET OUT OF PAYING HIS REWARD BOTH HAD LAPTOPS THAT ONCE HACKED LED 2 MANY MORE ARRESTS
GLOBALLY IN THE FALL OF 2004 WITH MORE BOUNTY RAMIFICATIONS…

IT’S ALL ABOUT NOT PAYING THE MONEY WHICH BY THE WAY
IS CONSTITUTIONALLY BOUND BY LAW + A PUBLIC-LAW THAT
CONGRESS PASSED IN 1984 - 2 BE PAID WHICH HAS NO OVERSIGHT WHATSOEVER ONCE bush TURNED IT INTO THE REWARDS 4 JUSTICE PROGRAM…

CHECK IT OUT 4 YOURSELF…

http://WWW.FBI.GOV/PAGE2/MAY04/BOLO052604.HTM

I’M SURE THAT THIS PAGE WILL CEASE 2 EXIST ONCE THOSE
EVIL FEDS. GET WIND OF THIS…

HEY FBI - YOU ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS “THE DECIDER OR
DARTH VADER” 4 ALLOWING THEM 2 COMMIT THESE CRIMES…

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By national-security-4-us, June 3, 2007 at 2:05 am Link to this comment

NOW AS 2 BEING A INHIBITOR - A INHIBITOR OF WHAT - ME
LAYING OUT THE FACTS - TELLING THE TRUTH - SPEAKING TRUTH 2 POWER…

IF I WANT 2 COMMENT 100 TIMES IN A ROW THAT’S MY
RIGHT 2 DO SO - THIS FORUM IS OPEN 4 ALL 2 SPEAK THEIR MIND IF THEY HAVE THE BALLS - THE WILL - THE HEART & SOUL 2 DO SO..

NOW I WOULD BE A INHIBITOR IF WAS 2 STAY SILENT & NOT
SPEAK-UP & TELL WHAT I KNOW THAT NO ONE SEEMS 2 CARE
ABOUT BECAUSE IT DOESN’T AFFECT THEM AT ALL OR THE JEALOUSY/ENVIOUS TRIP KICKS IN..

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By national-security-4-us, June 3, 2007 at 1:56 am Link to this comment

LIKE I SAID TAKE YOUR GRIPE UP WITH THE SITE WHO DID
ALL OF THE RESEARCH - MAYBE THAT CAMP YOU DON’T SEE WENT UNDERGROUND - OH GEE SHERLOCK HOLMES YOU DIDN’T
THINK OF THAT KNOW DID WE..

AS 4 THE CAPS THAT IS JUST MORE BRAIN-DEAD MAN INSPIRED JARGON - I HAVE THE RIGHT 2 TYPE IN ALL SMALL - ALL CAPS OR BOTH - THERE IS NO FUCKING 11TH
COMMANDMENT SAYING - “THOU MUST TYPE APPROPRIATELY &
SHALL NEVER TYPE IN ALL CAPITOL LETTERS”

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK GET OVER THE SMALL SHIT & READ THE FACTS…

MAYBE I AM DOING THIS DELIBERATELY BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE 2 SAY IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE…

THE MATTER WITH A MOST WANTED TERRORIST BEING CAPTURED IN AMERICA & RELEASED IS ENOUGH 2 FRY THIS WHOLE ADMINISTRATION & IT SEEMS NO ONE TRULY UNDERSTANDS THE SIGNIFICANCE IN WHICH THE MATTER OF CRIMES & LEVEL OF SAME WAS COMMITTED BY THE MASSES -
WHY BECAUSE JEALOUSY - ENVY & GREED KICKED IN OR SIMPLY BECAUSE I FUCKED UP PEOPLES’ PLAN 2 SUSPEND THE CONSTITUTION/BILL OF RIGHTS BY BEING SO FUCKING VIGILANT - I OUTSMARTED THEM ALL…

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By TheDayTheEarthStoodStill, June 2, 2007 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment
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national-security-4-us:

I DONT HAVE 2 WERE-EE.

I HAVE MY TIN-FOIL HAT ON! DUE U 2? IT WILL SAVE U FROM THE NSA SPYING ON YER BRANE WAVES.  MAKE SHURE THE HAT LOOKS LIKE THE MOUNTAIN IN CLOSE ENCOUNTERS 2 BEST FIGHT OFF THEY’RE BRANE WAVE MASHINE!

ALSO POST YER 15 POSTS 10 MORE TIMES AND TRUTH-DIG’S SUPER_SECRET BLOG MASHINE WILL POST ALL 150 POSTS ON EVERY BLOG IN THE WORLD 2 GET YER MESS-AGE OUT. 

TRUTH-DIG ALSO HAS THE NUE ANTI-ROSWELL RAY SO THAT SPACE ALIENS CANT INTERCEPT THEY’RE BLOGGING.

BUT DONT FERGET YER RADIOWAVE BRANE PROTECTER!

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By Skruff, June 1, 2007 at 6:13 am Link to this comment
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national-security-4-us
Can you talk while beathing?  Both in and out?

Capital letters on the internet are generally conveyed to mean yelling, and someone who follows his own post with another, is generallty believed to be a inhibitor.

I have been privledged to work with the Massachusetts Audubon Society on the grounds of (the former) Fort Devens site, and I have never seen evidence of any construction of “camps” in fact, the old FD security fence was mostly removed ten years ago.  They are no more high security areas. and Falcons have roosted in some of the old buildings.

  In addition, The Fort Devens property is located near Harvard (the town not the school) and some of the priceiest real estate in the Commonwealth.  I doubt if the US is going to build “camps” that anywhere in Blue New England is a intelligent siting plan… There is still a strong libeterian streak in the population here.

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By national-security-4-us, May 31, 2007 at 9:32 pm Link to this comment

THE NAME OF THIS SITE IS—- TRUTHDIG.

THAT’S TRUTH - DIG = OKAY.

MEANING PEOPLE DIG UP THE TRUTH 4 PEOPLE 2 HEAR/KNOW.

NOW ANYBODY WHO COMES ON HERE & BITCHES & MOANS ABOUT
THINGS WHICH ARE THE TRUTH / FACTUAL—- TELLS US ALL
EXACTLY WHAT THAT PERSON IS - A bushie butt-buddy.

AS 4 ME I AM A INDEPENDENT WHOLEHEARTEDLY—I AM A LEADER NOT A FOLLOWER OF DEMONIC POLITICS.

4 DECADES I HAVE WATCHED BOTH PARTIES LITERALLY DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN - WITH IDIOTIC POLICIES &
CREATING MORE LAWS 2 ENFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE
BOOKS NOT BEING ENFORCED.

JUST LOOK AT TED KENNEDY - 2 BROTHERS WERE MURDERED &
HE SHUTS UP BY TOEING THE LINE OR HE WOULD BE KILLED.

HE KNOWS HIS BROTHER THE PRESIDENT J.F.K. GAVE A SPEECH ABOUT SECRET SOCIETIES & HOW HE WOULD HAVE NOTHING 2 DO WITH THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AFFECTING
AMERICA - LO & BEHOLD THAT SPEECH ALONE MAY HAVE SEALED HIS FATE - HIS DATE WITH DESTINY = DEATH.

SO 2 SAVE FACE HE JUST STAYED SILENT & WENT ALONG 2 GET ALONG - SO HE DID NOT RECEIVE THE SAME FATE.

SURE HE MAY BITCH & MOAN ABOUT THE RETHUGLICANS - YET
IS IT ALL SMOKESCREEN 2 MAKE THE PEOPLE THINK THAT THE PARTIES ARE REALLY AT EACH OTHERS THROAT.

NOW THIS GOES BOTH WAYS WITH THE DONTKNOWCRAP ARGUING
WITH THE RETHUGLICANS - BACK & FORTH THEY GO AT EACH
OTHER - PAINTING THE ILLUSION THAT 1 PARTY IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER - CLASSIC DIVIDE & CONQUER - YET IN ALL REALITY MOST ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE & HAVE 2 SPICE IT UP FROM TIME 2 TIME 2 MAKE THE PEOPLE THINK/
BELIEVE - THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY WORKING.

WELL YOU GUESSED IT - YEA IT IS WORKING 4 THEM 2 GET
SUPER-PAID THROUGH ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ACTS & IN THE END
IT’S THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA - THE TAXPAYERS THOSE WHO
PAY THEIR SALARIES & ELECTED THEM INTO OFFICE GETTING
THE SHORT END OF THE STICK TIME & TIME AGAIN.

AMERICA HAS BEEN RAPED & FLEECED BY THESE CAREER CRIMINALS & ALL OF THEM HAVE THEIR DAY COMING - THEIR
DATE WITH DESTINY IS ETERNAL DAMNATION IN THE LAKE OF
FIRE & ALL THOSE WHO OVER THE YEARS TOOK THEIR BACK &
STAYED WITH A LOSER - TERM AFTER TERM AFTER TERM…

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By national-security-4-us, May 31, 2007 at 8:19 pm Link to this comment

GO 2 THE WEBSITE & BITCH W/THEM IDIOT - THEY SOUGHT
OUT THE INFO. 4 PEOPLE 2 LEARN THE TRUTH.

ANOTHER PEA-BRAIN - BRAIN-DEAD WALKING ZOMBIE.

FROM THE LOOKS/SOUND OF YOUR NAME - YOU PROBABLY AREN’T EVEN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN - IN ANY EVENT YOU
WILL LIKELY BE TARGETED B-4 ME.

AS YOU SEE I HAD 2 DO THIS MULTIPLE TIMES SO 4 ME 2
CONDENSE/ABBREVIATE SAVED TIME & SPACE.

GET A LIFE - GET EDUCATED OR GET LOST - SEEING YOU KNOCK THIS - YOU ARE ALREADY LOST.

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By JNagarya, May 31, 2007 at 5:00 pm Link to this comment

“MASSACHUSETTS
“Camp Edwards/Otis AFB-Cape Cod-The “inactive” base is being converted 2 hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown.”

Substantiate.

I knew you couldn’t.

Might it have something to do with the fact you can’t spell, and couldn’t writeyour way out of an open field, in broad daylight, even with compass, map, and gaggle of guides?

“Ft.Devens-Active detention fac.More data needed.”

And yet you urge conclusions for which you also admit there isn’t sufficent data.

Take your right-wingnut anti-gum’mint paranoid’s propaganda to Free Republic.  You’ll find friends and allies there.

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By national-security-4-us, May 31, 2007 at 12:19 am Link to this comment

http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_13.htm

HERE’S MORE GOOD STUFF 2 READ ABOUT OUR SO-CALLED -“JUST SOCIETY” -THAT GOVERNS BY THE LAWS OF THE LAND
- BECAUSE “WE ARE JUST SOCIETY” - “A NATION OF LAWS”
- “WHO LIVE BY THE RULE OF LAW”

PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK - AMERICA WAS SO DAMN CORRUPT
AT ITS’ INCEPTION - CRIMINALS FLED THE MONARCHY OF GREAT BRITIAN/U.K. 4 A BETTER WAY OF LIFE FREE FROM
TYRANNY & OPPRESSION——- IN WHICH AMERICA HAS ONLY
FOLLOWED SUIT—- SLOWLY BUT SURELY…

THE FORCES AT WORK THEN - WERE PRESENT IN AMERICA & SLOWLY CREPT INTO OUR POLITICAL PROCESS & HAS ALL BUT
VILIFIED IT - NEVER CONDEMNING IT - IT PLAYED ALONG 2
GET ALONG & SIMILIARILY JOINED IN MAKING ITS’ OWN
STYLE OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR & CORRUPTION EXEMPT 2 THE
RICH/ELITE & POWERFUL - YET MUST BE FOLLOWED & OBEYED
BY THE COMMON FOLK…

SMOKE SOME MORE CRACK WITH THAT TYPE OF CRIMINAL MINDSET RUNNING AMUCK AT WILL IN AMERICA TODAY…

AMERICA IS CIRCLING THE COMMODE & IS READY 2 DROWN IN
ALL OF ITS’ PAST HISTORY OF LIES/DECEIT/CRIMIMALITY/
USING & ABUSING OF ALL NATIONS…

THOSE WHO LED AMERICA ARE NOT EVEN PROTECTED AGAINST
THE MANY SINS THEY HAVE COMMITTED & THE ILLS OF THE WORLD WHO WANT 2 HUNT THEM DOWN…

IF bush WAS THE “MORALLY CORRECT HUNBLE CHRISTIAN” HE
SAYS HE IS THEN HE WOULD FIX ALL OF THE THINGS THAT
ARE SCREWED-UP…

SINCE he HASN’T A DROP OF CHRISTIAN BLOOD IN him & IS
OF THE LINEAGE OF THE DEVIL/KIN 2 HITLER - he’ll ONLY
FOLLOW IN his fathers’ FOOTSTEPS - WHICH IS LYING &
DECEIVING - KILLING OF INNOCENT LIVES - WAR - DEATH &
DESTRUCTION…

“OPERATION SCORCHED EARTH POLICY” - INITIAL NAME 4 THE INVASION OF IRAQ IS SIMILIAR TO - “THE BOOK OF REVELATION” - he SO DESPARATELY WANTS 2 EMULATE & FULFILL…

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By national-security-4-us, May 30, 2007 at 10:06 pm Link to this comment

SPREAD THE WORD PEOPLE-COPY/PASTE ALL OVER THE PLACE
THIS IS THE FUTURE THEY WANT 4 US/WE’VE PAID 4 IT ALL
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HERE R SOME MORE CHILLING FACTS-THIS IS WHAT GOVT
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There over 800 prison camps in the U.S.-all fully
operational/ready 2 receive prisoners.They r all staffed/even surrounded by full-time guards,but they
r all empty.These camps r 2 be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency)should Martial Law need 2 be implemented in the U.S./all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation/
U.S.A.G.‘s signature on a warrant 2 which a list of names is attached.Ask yourself if you really want 2 b
on Ashcroft’s list..NOW IT’S GONZALES’ LIST.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the
Mexican/US border,they would b quickly rounded up/
detained in detention centers by FEMA.Rex 84 allowed
many military bases 2 b closed down & 2 b turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer/Garden Plot r the 2 sub programs which will b implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated 4 its proper purpose.Garden Plot
is the program 2 control the population.Cable Splicer
is the program 4 a orderly takeover of the state/
local govts. by the fed.govt. FEMA is the exec. arm of the coming police state/thus will head up all operations. The Presidential E.O’s already listed on
the Fed.Register also are part of the legal framework
4 this operation.

The camps have railroad fac./roads leading 2/from the
detention fac.Many have an airport nearby.Majority of
camps can house a pop. of 20,000 prisoners.Currently,
the largest of these fac.is just outside of Fairbanks
,Ala.-The Ala.fac.is a massive mental health fac./can
hold 2 million people.

All military reservations/posts/bases,stations,depots
can b considered highly suspect(cause it’s “federal”
land).Also fitting this category r’Regional Airports’
/‘International Airports’ which also fall under fed. jurisdictionhaving limited-access areas.Mental hospitals/closed hospitals/nursing homes/closed military bases/wildlife refuges/state prisons/toxic waste dumps/hotels/other areas all have varying degrees of potential 4 being a detention camp area.
The actual likelihood of a site being suspect increases w/the transportation access 2 the site,
including airports/airstrips/railheads/navigable waterways/ports/roads/interstates/US highways.
Some fac. r’disguised’as industrial/commercial properties,camouflaged or even contained inside large
buildings(Indianapolis)/factories.Many inner-city buildings left vacant during the de-industrialization
of America have been quietly acquired/held,sometimes retrofitted 4 their new uses.

CANADA
Our Canadian friends tell us that virtually all Canadian military bases,especially those N of the 50th Parallel,are all set up w/concentration camps.
Not even 1/2 of these can b listed,here r a few sites
w/the massive land space 2 handle any pop:
Suffield CFB-N of Medicine Hat,less than 60 mi. from USA.
Primrose Lake Air Range-70 mi. NE of Edmonton.
Wainwright CFB-1/2way between Medicine Hat/Primrose Lake.
Ft.Nelson-Northernmost point on the BC Railway line.
Ft.McPherson-Very cold territory~NW Territories.
Ft.Providence-Located on Great Slave Lake.
Halifax-Nova Scotia.—Dept.of Nat’l Defense reserve..
And others.

OVERSEAS LOCATIONS
Guayanabo,Puerto Rico-Fed.prison camp fac.Capacity unknown.
Guantanamo Bay,Cuba-USMC Base-Presently home 2-30,000
Mariel Cubans/40,000 Albanians.Total capacity unknown

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HERE & OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THIS..

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There over 800 prison camps in the U.S., all fully
operational/ready 2 receive prisoners.They are all staffed & even surrounded by full-time guards, but they’re all empty. These camps are 2 be operated by
FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need 2 be implemented in the U.S. & all
it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation & the attorney general’s signature on a warrant 2 which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want 2 be on Ashcroft’s list.
NOW IT’S GONZALES’ LIST.

CANADA
Our Canadian friends tell us that virtually all Canadian military bases,especially those north of the 50th Parallel,are all set up w/concentration camps.Not even half of these can be listed, but here are a few sites w/the massive land space 2 handle any
population:

Suffield CFB-just north of Medicine Hat,less than 60 miles from the USA.
Primrose Lake Air Range-70 miles northeast of Edmonton.
Wainwright CFB-halfway between Medicine Hat and Primrose Lake.
Ft.Nelson-Northernmost point on the BC Railway line.
Ft.McPherson-Very cold territory~NW Territories.
Ft.Providence-Located on Great Slave Lake.
Halifax-Nova Scotia.—Dept. of National Defense reserve…. And others.

OVERSEAS LOCATIONS
Guayanabo,Puerto Rico-Federal prison camp facility. Capacity unknown.
Guantanamo Bay,Cuba-US Marine Corps Base-Presently home to 30,000 Mariel Cubans and 40,000 Albanians. Total capacity unknown.

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OUR OWN SECRET DETENTION BEDS - FAMILIES WILL BE SENT
IN DIFFERENT WAYS 2 REMOTE PARTS OF AMERICA WITH THE INTENTION OF NEVER SEEING ONE ANOTHER AGAIN…

THAT IS WHY MY FRIENDS WE HAVE GOT 2 KNOW WHO THE FUCK WE THE PEOPLE ARE ELECTING INTO PUBLIC OFFICE…

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WEST VIRGINIA
Beckley-Alderson-Lewisburg-Former WWII detention camps that r now converted into active fed.prison complexes capable of holding several times their current populations.Alderson is presently a women’s fed.reformatory.
Morgantown-Fed.prison camp located in northern WV; just N of Kingwood.
Mill Creek-FEMA detention fac.
Kingwood-Newly built detention camp at Camp Dawson Army Reservation.More data needed on Camp Dawson.

WASHINGTON
Seattle/Tacoma-SeaTac Airport-fully operational fed.
transfer center.
Okanogan Co.-Borders Canada/is a site 4 a massive concentration camp capable of holding 100’s of 1000’s
of people 4 slave labor.This is probably 1 of the locations that will be used 2 hold hard core patriots
who will be held captive 4 the rest of their lives.
Sand Point Naval Station-Seattle-FEMA detention center used actively during the 1999 WTO protests 2 classify prisoners.
Ft.Lewis/McChord AFB-near Tacoma-1 of several sites that may be used 2 ship prisoners overseas 4 slave labor.

WISCONSIN
Ft.McCoy-Rex 84 fac. w/several complete interment compounds.
Oxford-Central part of state-Fed.prison/sat.camp/FEMA
detention fac.

WYOMING
Heart Mt.-Park Co. N. of Cody-WWII Jap. internment camp ready 4 renovation.
Laramie-FEMA detention fac.
SW-near Lyman-FEMA detention fac.
E.Yellowstone-Manned internment fac.-Investigating patriots were apprehended by European soldiers speaking in an unknown language.Fed. govt. assumed custody of the persons/arranged their release.

OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES
There r many other locations not listed above that r worthy of consideration as a possible detention camp site/due 2 space limitations/the time needed 2 verify
could not be included here.
Virtually all military reservations/posts/bases/
stations/depots can be considered highly suspect (because it’s “federal” land).Also fitting this category r “Regional Airports”/“International Airports” which also fall under fed. jurisdiction & have limited-access areas.Mental hospitals/closed hospitals/nursing homes/closed military bases/
wildlife refuges/state prisons/toxic waste dumps/ hotels/other areas all have varying degrees of potential 4 being a detention camp area.The actual likelihood of a site being suspect increases w/the transportation access 2the site,including airports/
airstrips/railheads/navigable waterways/ports,
interstates/US highways.Some facilities r “disguised”
as industrial/commercial properties/camouflaged or even wholly contained inside large buildings like (Indianapolis)/factories. Many inner-city buildings
left vacant during the de-industrialization of America have been quietly acquired/held,sometimes retrofitted 4 their new uses.

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OREGON
Sheridan-Fed.prison sat. camp NW of Salem.
Josephine Co.-WWII Jap.internment camp ready 4 renovation.
Sheridan-FEMA detention center.
Umatilla-New prison spotted.

PENNSYLVANIA
Allenwood-Fed.prison camp - S of Williamsport on the
Susquehanna River.It has a current inmate pop. of 300
/is identified by William Pabst as having a capacity in excess of 15,000 on 400 acres.
Indiantown Gap Military Reservation-N of Harrisburg. Used 4 WWII POW camp/renovated by Jimmy Carter.Was used 2 hold Cubans during Mariel boat lift.
Camp Hill-St.prison close 2 Army depot.Lots of room, located in Camp Hill,Pa.
New Cumberland Army Depot-on the Susquehanna River, located off I-83/I-76.
Schuylkill Haven-Fed.prison camp,N of Reading.

SOUTH CAROLINA
Greenville-Unoccupied youth prison camp total capacity unknown.
Charleston-Naval Reserve AFB,restricted area on naval
base.

SOUTH DAKOTA
Yankton-Fed.prison camp
Black Hills Nat’l Forest-N of Edgemont,SW part of state.WWII internment camp being renovated.

TENNESSEE
Ft.Campbell-Next 2 Land Between the Lakes-next 2 airfield/US Alt.41.
Millington-Fed.prison camp next door 2 Memphis Naval Air Station.
Crossville-Site of WWII German/Italian prison camp is renovated/completed barracks/behind the camp in the woods is a training fac. w/hi-tight ropes/a rappelling deck.
Nashville-There r 2 buildings built on State property
that r definitely built 2 hold prisoners.They r identical buildings-side by side on Old Briley Parkway.Hi-barbed wire fence that curves inward.


TEXAS
Austin-Robert Mueller/FBI DIRECTOR Municipal airport has detenion areas inside hangars.
Bastrop-Prison/military vehicle motor pool.
Eden-1500 bed privately run fed.center.Currently holds illegal aliens.
Ft.Hood(Killeen)-Newly built concentration camp, w/
towers,barbed wire etc.- just like the 1 featured in the movie Amerika..Mock city 4 NWO shock- force training.Some footage of this area was used in “Waco:
A New Revelation”
Reese AFB(Lubbock)-FEMA designated detention fac.
Sheppard AFB-in Wichita Falls S of Ft.Sill,OK.-FEMA designated detention fac.
North Dallas-near Carrolton-water treatment plant/ close 2 Interstete/railroad.
Mexia-E of Waco 33 mi.-WWII German fac. may be renovated.
Amarillo-FEMA designated detention fac.
Ft.Bliss(El Paso)Extensive renovation of buildings & from what patriots have been able 2 see,many of these
buildings that r being renovated r being surrounded by razor wire.
Beaumont/Port Arthur area-100’s of acres of fed.camps
already built on large-scale detention camp design, complete w/the double rows of chain link fencing w/
razor type concertina wire on top of each row.Some (but not all)of these facils. r currently being used 4 low-risk st.prisoners who require a minimum of supervision.
Ft.Worth-Fed.prison under construction on the site of Carswell AFB.

UTAH
Millard Co.-Central Utah-WWII Jap. camp.(Renovated)
Ft.Douglas-This “inactive” military reservation has a renovated WWII concentration camp.
Migratory Bird Refuge-W of Brigham City-contains a WWII internment camp that was built B-4 the game preserve was established.
Cedar City-E of city-no data available.
Wendover-WWII internment camp may be renovated.
Skull Valley-southwestern Camp William property- E of
the old bombing range.Camp was accidentally found by a man/his son who were rabbit hunting-they were discovered/apprehended.SW of Tooele.

VIRGINIA
Ft.A.P.Hill(Fredericksburg)-Rex 84/FEMA fac. Estimated capacity 45,000.
Petersburg-Fed.sat.prison camp,S of Richmond.

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MONTANA
Malmstrom AFB-UN aircraft groups stationed here/ possibly a detention fac.

NEBRASKA
Scottsbluff-WWII German POW camp(renovated)NW / NE
corners of state - FEMA detention facils.-more data needed.S. Central part of state-Many old WWII sites/
some may be renovated.

NEVADA
Elko-10 mi. S of town.
Wells-Camp is located in the O’Niel basin area,40 mi.
N of Wells-past 1000 Springs,W off Hwy 93 for 25 mi.
Pershing Co-Camp’s located at I-80 mile marker 112,S
side of the highway,about a mile back on the co. rd./
just off the road about 3/4 mi.
Winnemucca-Battle Mt.area-at base of the mountains. Nellis Air Force Range-NW from Las Vegas on Route 95.
Nellis AFB is just N of Las Vegas on Hwy 604. Stillwater Naval Air Station-E of Reno.No additional data.

NEW HAMPSHIRE/VERMONT
Northern N.H.-near Lake Francis.No additional data.

NEW JERSEY
Ft.Dix/McGuire AFB-Possible deportation point 4 detainees.Lots of pictures taken of detention compounds/posted on Internet,this camp is well-known.
Fac.is now complete/ready 4 occupancy.

NEW MEXICO
Ft.Bliss-This base actually straddles Texas state line.S of Alomogordo,Ft.Bliss has 1000’s of acres 4 people who refuse 2 go w/the “New Order”.
Holloman AFB(Alomogordo)Home of the German Luftwaffe in Amerika-major UN base.New fac. being built on this
base,according to recent visitors.Many former USAF buildings have been torn down by the busy/rapidly growing German military force located here.
Ft.Stanton-currently being used as a youth detention fac.-35 mi. N of Ruidoso, New Mexico. Not a great deal of info. concerning the Lordsburg location. White Sands Missile Range-Currently being used as a storage fac. 4 U.N. vehicles/equipment.Observers have
seen this material brought in on the Whitesands
rail spur in Oro Grande New Mexico about 30 mi. from the Texas,New Mexico Border.

NEW YORK
Ft.Drum-2 compounds:Rex 84 detention camp/FEMA detention fac.
Albany-FEMA detention facility.
Otisville-Fed.corr.fac. near Middletown.
Buffalo-FEMA detention fac.

NORTH CAROLINA
Camp Lejeune/New River Marine Airfield-fac. has been renovated/occupied-WWII detention compounds/“mock city” that closely resembles Anytown,USA.
Ft.Bragg-Special Warfare Training Center.Renovated WWII detention fac.
Andrews-Fed.experiment in putting a small town under siege.Began w/the search/hunt 4 survivalist Eric Rudolph.No persons were allowed in/out of town w/out fed.permission/travel thru town was highly restricted
Most residents compelled 2 stay in their homes. Unregistered Baptist pastor from Indiana visiting Andrews affirmed these facts.

NORTH DAKOTA
Minot AFB-Home of UN air group.More data needed on fac.

OHIO
Camp Perry-Site renovated-once used as a POW camp 2 house German/Italian prisoners of WWII.Some tar paper
covered huts built 4 housing these prisoners r still standing.Recently,the construction of multiple 200-man barracks have replaced most of the huts. Cincinnati/Cleveland/Columbus-FEMA detention facils. More Data needed.
Lima-FEMA detention fac.Another facility located in/near old stone quarry near I-75.Railroad access 2 property/fences etc.

OKLAHOMA
Tinker AFB(OKC)-All base personnel r prohibited from going near civilian detention area,which is under constant guard.
Will Rogers World Airport-FEMA’s main processing center-W of the Mississippi.All personnel r kept out of the sec.zone.Fed. prisoner transfer center located
here(pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up 2)Photos have been taken/this site will try 2
post them soon.
El Reno-Renovated fed.internment fac. w/CURRENT pop. of 12,000 on Rt.66.
McAlester-near Army Munitions Plant property-former WWII German/Italian POW camp designated 4 future use.
Ft.Sill(Lawton)-Former WWII detention camps.More data
still needed.

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UNICOR - Jefferson Proving Grounds-S.Ind.-fac.was an active base w/test firing occuring daily.Portions of base have been opened 2 create an industrial park/
other areas r still highly restricted.A camp is believed 2 b located “downrange”.Fac.is equipped w/an airfield/ nearby rail line.
Newport-Army Depot-VX nerve gas storage fac.Secret meetings were held here in 1998 regarding the adding of the Kankakee River watershed 2 the Heritage Rivers
Initiative.
Hammond-large enclosure identified in FEMA-designated
city.

IOWA
No data available.

KANSAS
Leavenworth-US Marshal’s Fed Holding Fac.US Pen.Fed.
Prison Camp.
McConnell AFB-Fed. death penalty fac.
Concordia-WWII German POW camp used 2 exist at this location/there’s no fac there at this time.
Ft.Riley-N of I-70,airport,near city of Manhattan. El Dorado-Fed.prison converted into forced-labor camp
UNICOR industries.Topeka-80 acres has been converted
into a temporary holding camp.

KENTUCKY
Ashland-Fed.prison camp in E.Kentucky near the Ohio River.
Louisville-FEMA detention fac.located near restricted
area US naval ordnance plant.Military airfield at fac. which is on S side of city.
Lexington-FEMA detention fac.Nat’l Guard base next 2
airport fac.
Manchester-Fed.prison camp located inside Dan Boone Nat’l Forest.
Ft.Knox-Detention center,possibly located near Salt River,in restricted area of base.Local patriots say that black Special Forces/UN gray helicopters are occasionally seen in area.
Land Between the Lakes-This area was declared a UN biosphere/is a ideal geographic location 4 detention facils..Area is an isthmus extending out from Tenn.- between Lake Barkley on the E/Kentucky Lake on the W.
Just scant mi. from Ft.Campbell in Tenn.

LOUISIANA
Ft.Polk-main base 4 UN troops/personnel/a training
center 4 the disarmament of America.
Livingston-WWII German/Italian internment camp being renovated-1/2way between Baton Rouge/Hammond,several
mi. N of I-12.
Oakdale-US.RT.165 about 50 mi. S of Alexandria-2 fed.
detention centers just SE of Ft.Polk.

MAINE
Houlton-WWII German internment camp in N Maine,off US
Rt.1.

MARYLANd/DC
Ft.Meade-Halfway between the District of Criminals & Baltimore.Data needed.
Ft.Detrick-Biological warfare center 4 the NWO, located in Frederick.

MASSACHUSETTS
Camp Edwards/Otis AFB-Cape Cod-The “inactive” base is
being converted 2 hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown.
Ft.Devens-Active detention fac.More data needed.

MICHIGAN
Camp Grayling-Michigan Nat’l Guard base has several confirmed detention camps,classic setup w/hi-fences/ razor wire/etc.Guard towers r very well-built/sturdy.
Multiple compounds w/in larger enclosures.Fac. deep w/in forest area.
Sawyer AFB-Upper Peninsula-S of Marquette-No data available.
Bay City-Classic enclosure w/guard towers/hi- fence &
close 2 shipping port on Saginaw Bay-which connects 2
Lake Huron.Could b a deportation point 2 overseas via
St.Lawrence Seaway.SW-possibly Berrien Co.-FEMA detention center.
Lansing-FEMA detention facility.

MINNESOTA
Duluth-Fed.prison camp fac.
Camp Ripley-new prison fac.

MISSISSIPPI
These sites are confirmed hoaxes.
Hancock County-NASA test site De Soto Nat’l Forest.
“These 2 supposed camps in Mississippi do not exist.
Members of the Miss. Militia have checked these out on more than 1 occasion beginning back when they 1st appeared on the Internet/thru-out the Patriot Movement.”-Commander D.Rayner,Miss. Militia

MISSOURI
Richards-Gebaur AFB-located in Grandview,nearK.C. MO.
A very large internment fac. has been built on this base/all base personnel r restricted from coming near
it.
Ft.Leonard Wood-Situated in the middle of Mark Twain Nat’l Forest in Pulaski Co. This site has been known
4 some UN training/also home 2 the US Army Urban Warfare Training school “Stem Village”..Warsaw - Unconfirmed report of a large concentration camp fac.

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National Security 4 us, it sure seems they have plenty of room for someone. Funny too how out here in California all of our prisons are dangerously overcrowded and Arnie is sending state prisoners off to other states to relieve the burden. I have a feeling that with all this added prison space, they have more than just a few state prisoners in mind. From what you’re showing here, the government could easily double or treble the amount of folks we already have locked up!

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ILLINOIS
Marseilles-on the Ill.River off I-80 on Hwy 6.It’s a
relatively small fac.w/a cap of 1400 prisoners.though
it’s small it’s designed like prison fac.w/barred windows-real smoking gun is presence of military vehicles.located on the Ill.River it’s possible that
prisoners will be brought in by water/road/air.This fac.is like 75 mi.W of Chicago..Nat’l Guard training area nearby.
Scott AFB-Barbed wire prisoner enclosure reported 2 exist just off-base.More info needed,as another fac.
on-base is believed 2 exist.
Pekin-Fed.sat.prison camp is also on the Ill.River,S
of Peoria..It supplements the fed.pen.in Marion,which
is equipped 2 handle added people outside on the grounds.
Chanute AFB-Rantoul,near Champaign/Urbana-closed base
had WWII-era barracks were condemned/torn down/the medical fac was upgraded/more fencing put up in the area.More info needed.
Marion-Fed.Pen./sat.prison camp inside Crab Orchard Nat’l Wildlife Refuge.Manned/staffed/fully populated.
Greenfield-2 fed.corr.“sat.prison camps” serving Marion-populated as above.
Shawnee Nat’l Forest-Pope Co.-area seen heavy traffic
of foreign military equipment/troops via Ill.Central Railroad,which runs thru the area.Suspected location is unknown,may be close 2 Vienna/Shawnee corr.centers
6 mi.W of Dixon Springs.
Savanna Army Depot-NW area of state on Miss.River.
Linc/Sheridan/Menard/Pont/Galesburg-State prison fac.
equipped 4 major expansion/close or next 2 highway/
r/rd.tracks.
Kankakee-Abandoned industrial area on W side of town (Rt.17 & Main)designated as FEMA detention site. Equipped w/water tower/incinerator/small train yd. behind it/the rear of the fac.is surrounded by barbed
wire facing in.

INDIANA
Indianapolis/Marion Co.-Amtrak railcar repair fac.(closed)controversial site of a major alleged detention/processing center..Some sources state this site is a “red herring”-photographic/video evidence suggests otherwise.This large fac.contains large 3-4 in. gas mains 2 large furnace(crematoria)/helicopter landing pads/railheads 4 prisoners/Red/Blue/Green zones 4 classifying/processing incoming personnel/one
-way turnstiles/barracks/towers/high fences w/razor wire,etc.Personnel w/govt.clearance who r friendly 2 the patriot movement took a guided tour of the fac. 2
confirm this site..Site’s located next 2 a closed
refrigeration plant fac.
Ft.Benj.Harrison-NE part of Indy,this base has been decomissioned from “active” use/portions r still ideally converted 2 hold detainees.Helicopter landing
areas still exist 4 prisoners 2 be brought in by air/
land/rail.
Crown Pt.-Across st. from co.jail,former hospital.1
wing presently being used 4 co.work-release program
80% of fac.still unused.Possible FEMA detention center/holding fac.
Camp Atterbury-Fac.is converted 2 hold prisoners & boasts 2 active compounds presently configured 4 min.
sec.detainees..W of I-65 near Edinburgh,S of Indy.
Terre Haute-Fed.Corr.Inst.Sat.prison camp/death fac.
Equipped w/crematoria reported 2 have a capacity of 3,000 people/day..FEMA designated fac.located here.
Ft.Wayne-in NE Ind.has a FEMA designated detention fac.accessible by air/road/rail.
Kingsbury-“closed” military base is adjacent 2 a ST.
fish/wildlife preserve..Part of base is converted 2 an industrial park,the S portion of this property is still used.It’s bordered on the S by r/rd/is staffed
w/some foreign-speaking UN troops.A local police officer who was hunting/camping close 2 the base in the game preserve was accosted/roughed up/warned by the English-speaking unit commander 2 stay away from the area.It was suggested 2 the officer that the welfare of his family would depend on his “silence”-
SE of LaPorte.
Jasper/Pulaski Wildlife Area-Youth Corr.farm located
here.Fac.is closed/is still staffed/being “renovated”
Total capacity unknown.
Grissom AFB-closed airbase still handles alot of traffic/has a “state-owned” prison compound on the
S part of the fac.

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By Michael Shaw, May 30, 2007 at 6:29 pm Link to this comment

National Security for us!

I have heard about these detention facilities that have been “secretly” springing up throughout the southwest. I do know the government claimed they were going to use them for illegal aliens. I’ve often wondered if that was truly the case or if perhaps in reality they are meant for dissidents and opponents of this current administration.

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CALIFORNIA
Vandenburg AFB-Rex 84 facility,located near Lompoc & Santa Maria.Internment fac. is located near the oceanside,close 2 Space Launch Complex #6, also called “Slick 6”.The launch site has had “a flawless
failure record”/is rarely used.
Norton AFB-(closed base)now staffed w/UN according 2 some sources.
Tule Lake-area of “wildlife refuge”,accessible by unpaved road,just inside Modoc Co.
Ft.Ord-Closed in 1994,this facility is now an urban warfare training center 4 US/foreign troops/may have some"P.O.W./C.I.“enclosures.
29 Palms Marine Base-Birthplace of the infamous
“Would u shoot American citizens?”-Quiz.New camps being built on “back 40”.
Oakdale-Rex 84 camp can hold at least 20,000 people. 90 mi.E of San Fran.
Terminal Island-(Long Beach)located next 2 naval shipyards operated by ChiCom shipping interests.Fed. prison fac. located here.Possible deportation point. Ft.Irwin-FEMA fac. near Barstow.Base is designated inactive/has staffed camp.
McClellan AFB-fac. can hold 30,000/35,000. Sacramento-Army Depot-No specific info. at this time.
Mather AFB-Road 2 fac. is blocked off by cement barriers/stop sign.Sign states area is restricted; as
of 1997 there were barbed wire fences pointing inward
/a row of stadium lights pointed toward an empty field,etc.Black boxes on poles may have been cameras.

COLORADO
Trinidad-WWII German/Italian camp being renovated. Granada-Prowers Co.-WWII Japanese internment camp Ft.Carson-Along RT 115 near Canon City

CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE
No data available.

FLORIDA
Avon Park-Air Force gunnery range,Avon Park has an on
-base “correctional fac.” which was a former WWII detention camp.
Camp Krome-DoJ detention/interrogation center,Rex 84 fac.
Eglin AFB-Base is over 30 mi.long,from Pensacola 2 Hwy 331 in De Funiak Springs.Hi-capacity fac. presently manned/populated w/some prisoners.
Pensacola-Fed.Prison Camp Everglades-It’s believed that a fac. may be carved out of the wilds here.

GEORGIA
Ft.Benning-Located E of Columbus near Alabama state line.Rex 84 site-Prisoners brought in via Lawson Army airfield.
Ft.McPherson-US Force Command-Multiple reports that this will be the nat’l HQs’/coordinating center 4 foreign/UN troop movement/detainee collection.
Ft.Gordon-W of Augusta-No info. at this time. Unadilla-Dooly Co.-Manned/staffed FEMA prison on RT. 230,no prisoners.
Oglethorpe-Macon Co. fac. is located 5 mi. from Montezuma,3 mi. from Oglethorpe.This FEMA prison has no staff/no prisoners.
Morgan-Calhoun Co.-FEMA fac. is fully manned/staffed/
no prisoners.
Camilla-Mitchell Co. S of Albany.This FEMA fac. is located on Mt.Zion Rd. approximately 5.7 miles S of
Camilla.Unmanned/no prisoners/no staff.
Hawkinsville-Wilcox Co.5 mi. E of town,fully manned/
staffed/no prisoners.
Located on fire road 100/Upper River Road Abbeville S of Hawkinsville on US RT.129-S of town off RT.280 near Ocmulgee River.FEMA facility is staffed but w/o
prisoners.
McRae-Telfair Co.-1.5 mi.W of McRae on Hwy 134(8th St).Fac. is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St.-manned/
staffed/no prisoners.
Ft.Gillem-S side of Atlanta-FEMA designated detention fac.
Ft.Stewart-Savannah area-FEMA designated detention fac.

HAWAII
Halawa Heights area - Crematory facility located in hills above city. Area
is marked as a state department of health laboratory. Barbers Point NAS -
There are several military areas that could be equipped for detention /
deportation. Honolulu - Detention transfer facility at the Honolulu airport
similar in construction to the one in.Oklahoma (pentagon-shaped building
where airplanes can taxi up to).


IDAHO
Minidoka/Jerome Counties - WWII Japanese-American internment facility
possibly under renovation. Clearwater National Forest - Near Lolo Pass -
Just miles from the Montana state line near Moose Creek, this unmanned
facility is reported to have a nearby airfield. Wilderness areas - Possible
location. No data.

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By national-security-4-us, May 30, 2007 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

E.O.11921 - allows the Fed.Emergency Preparedness Agency 2 develop plans 2 establish control over the mechanisms of production/distribution,of energy sources/wages/salaries/credit & the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency.It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President,Congress can’t
review the action 4—6 months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation.Gen.Frank Salzedo,chief of FEMA’s Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA’s role as a “new frontier in the protection of individual/governmental leaders from assassination/& of civil & military installations
from sabotage/or attack,as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access 2 U.S.opinion,or
a global audience in times of crisis.” FEMA’s powers were consolidated by Pres. Carter 2 incorporate the

National Security Act of 1947 - allows 4 the strategic relocation of industries/services/govt &
other essential economic activities,& 2 rationalize the requirements 4 manpower/resources & production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act - gives the Pres. sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29,1916 - authorizes the Sec. of the Army,in time of war,2 take possession of any transportation system 4 transporting troops/material
or any other purpose related 2 the emergency.


International Emergency Economic Powers Act-enables the Pres. 2 seize the property of a foreign country or national.These powers were transferred 2 FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.


Where are these camps?

ALABAMA
Opelika-Military compound either in or very near town
Aliceville-WWII German POW camp-capacity 15,000
Ft.McClellan-(Anniston)-Opposite side of town from Army Depot;
Maxwell AFB-(Montgomery)-Civilian prison camp established under Operation Garden Plot,currently operating w/support staff/small inmate population.
Talladega-Federal prison “satellite” camp.

ALASKA
Wilderness-E.of Anchorage.No roads,Air/Railroad access only.Estimated capacity of 500,000
Elmendorf AFB-NE area of Anchorage-far end of base. Garden Plot facility.
Eielson AFB-SE of Fairbanks.Operation Garden Plot facility.
Ft.Wainwright-E of Fairbanks

ARIZONA
Ft.Huachuca-20 miles from Mexican border,30 miles from Nogales Rex ‘84 facility.
Pinal County-on the Gila River-WWII Japanese detention camp.May be renovated.
Yuma County-Colorado River-Site of former Japanese detention camp(near proving grounds).This site was completely removed in 1990 according 2 some reports.
Phoenix-Fed.Prison Satellite Camp.Main fed.facility expanded.
Florence-WWII prison camp NOW RENOVATED,OPERATIONAL W/staff/400 prisoners,operational capacity of 3,500.
Wickenburg-Airport is ready 4 conversion; total capacity unknown.
Davis-Monthan AFB(Tucson)Fully staffed and presently holding prisoners!
Sedona-site of possible UN base.

ARKANSAS
Ft.Chaffee(near Ft.Smith,Arkansas)Has new runway 4 aircraft,new camp facility w/cap of 40,000 prisoners.
Pine Bluff Arsenal-location also is the repository 4 B-Z nerve agent,which causes sleepiness/dizziness/
stupor-admitted use is 4 civilian control.
Jerome-Chicot/Drew Counties-site of WWII Japanese camps Rohwer.
Descha County-site of WWII Japanese camps.
Blythville AFB-Closed airbase now being used as camp.
New wooden barracks have been constructed at this location.Classic decorations-guard towers/barbed wire
/high fences.
Berryville-FEMA facility located E of Eureka Springs off Hwy.62.
Omaha-NE of Berryville near Missouri state line,on Hwy 65 S of old wood processing plant.Possible crematory facility.

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By national-security-4-us, May 30, 2007 at 4:29 pm Link to this comment

SPREAD THE WORD PEOPLE-COPY/PASTE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THIS IS THE FUTURE THEY WANT 4 US & WE HAVE PAID 4 IT
ALL OVER THE YRS.-WHAT A COUNTRY WE HAVE HERE & OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

HERE R SOME MORE CHILLING FACTS - THIS IS WHAT GOVT
INTENDED “FEMA” 2 BE GOOD/SUCCESSFUL AT.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

There over 800 prison camps in the U.S.,all fully
operational/ready 2 receive prisoners.They are all staffed/even surrounded by full-time guards,but they are all empty.These camps are 2 b operated by FEMA
(Federal Emergency Management Agency)should Martial Law need 2 b implemented in the U.S. & all it would take is a pres. signature on a proclamation & the U.S.A.G’s signature on a warrant 2 which a list of names is attached.Ask yourself if you really want 2 b
on Ashcroft’s list..NOW IT’S GONZALES’ LIST.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the
Mexican/US border,they would b quickly rounded up/
detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed
many military bases 2 b closed down/2 b turned into
prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer/Garden Plot r the 2 sub programs which will b implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated 4 its proper purpose.Garden Plot
is the program 2 control the population.Cable Splicer
is the program 4 an orderly takeover of the state &
local govts. by the fed.govt. FEMA is the exec. arm of the coming police state & thus will head up all operations. Presidential E.O’s already listed on the Fed. Register also r part of the legal framework 4 this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities + roads leading 2/from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby.The majority of the camps
can house a population of 20,000 prisoners.Currently,
the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks,Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility & can hold approximately 2 million people.

Let’s review the justification 4 any actions taken.

E.O’s associated w/FEMA that would suspend the Constitution & the Bill of Rights.These E.O’s have been on record 4 nearly 30 yrs./could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 - allows the govt. 2 take over all modes of transportation/control of highways/
seaports.

E.O.10995 - allows the govt. 2 seize/control the communication media.

E.O.10997 - allows the govt. 2 take over all electrical power,gas,petroleum,fuels & minerals.

E.O.10998 - allows the govt. 2 seize all means of transportation,including personal cars,trucks or vehicles of any kind/total control over all highways/
seaports/waterways.

E.O.10999 - allows the govt. 2 take over all food resources/farms.

E.O.11000 - allows the govt. 2 mobilize civilians into work brigades under govt. supervision.

E.O.11001 - allows the govt. 2 take over all health/ education/welfare functions.

E.O.11002 - designates the Postmaster General 2 operate a national registration of all persons.

E.O.11003 - allows the govt. 2 take over all airports/aircraft,including commercial aircraft.

E.O.11004 - allows the Housing/Finance Authority 2 relocate communities,build new housing w/public funds
designate areas 2 be abandoned/establish new
locations 4 populations.

E.O.11005 - allows the govt. 2 take over railroads/
inland waterways/public storage facilities.

E.O.11051 - specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning/gives authorization 2 put all E.O’s into effect in times of increased
international tensions//economic/financial crisis.

E.O.11310 - grants authority 2 the DOJ 2 enforce the plans set out in E.O’s,2 institute industrial support
/2 establish judicial/legislative liaison/2 control all aliens/2 operate penal/correctional institutions,
& 2 advise/assist the Pres.

E.O.11049 - assigns emergency preparedness function 2
fed. depts./agencies,consolidating 21 operative E.O’s
issued over a 15 yr.period.

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By national-security-4-us, May 30, 2007 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment

YEA JUST LIKE THE IDIOTS 2 SAY I RUINED THIS DISCUSSION WITH REAL LIVE FACTS OVER PEOPLE STATING OPIONIONS…

I AM TELLING YOU MORE CRIMES THAT THESE CRIMINALS COMMITTED & ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT - OUR NATION WHICH IS A RULE OF LAW & FOLLOWS THE LAWS 2 THE “T”

PLEASE WAKE-UP AMERICA IS READY 2 BE TAKEN 2 ITS’ KNEES & DETROYED FROM WITHIN 4-EVER—IT HAS BEEN IN
THE MAKING 4 SOME TIME NOW & IS MOVING FULL STEAM AHEAD…

http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick4.htm

READ ALOT OF THESE INTERESTING FACTS - MANY WANT YOU
2 BELIEVE IS A LIE…

LEARN ALL ABOUT D.H.S. SECRETARY M.CHERTOFF

THIS CAREER-CRIMINAL COCAINE ABUSER IS THE FOREMOST &
THE FRONT-RUNNER TO THE BIGGEST TREASONOUS TRAITOR IN AMERICAS’ HISTORY WHICH PALES IN COMPARISON 2 SOME
OF THE THINGS TERRORISTS DID - EVER…

AFTER READING SOME OF THESE & GETTING INFORMED 2 THE TRUTH - IT IS NO WONDER WHY THE TERRORISTS ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING…

GET EDUCATED - LEARN & BE INFORMED PEOPLE & STOP LISTENING 2 & BELIEVING THE LIES WE ARE ALL BEING TOLD…E NOW & IS MOVING FULL STREAM AHEAD…

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By Michael Shaw, May 30, 2007 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment

Well JNargarya I wouldn’t call those exactly non-primary. Perhaps to a corporate CEO. The quotes in the last post I made came from an article by Thom Hartmann. It was called, “Corporations Now have the Right to lie!” I found that specific article while looking for Santa Clara vs Southern Pacific Railroad which is when the robber barons rather deviously declared themselves as living entities, thus enjoying the same rights as the individual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County_v._Southern_Pacific_Railroad

Meanwhile, why not ask Jefferson himself?

“I hope we shall… crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”—Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816.

“The selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain.”—Thomas Jefferson to Larkin Smith, 1809.

http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/ot2www-jeffquot?specfile=/web/data/jefferson/quotations/www/jeffquot.o2w&act=surround&offset=1359207&tag=Favorite+Jefferson+Quotations&query=Corporations

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By JNagarya, May 30, 2007 at 2:34 am Link to this comment

“#73726 by Michael Shaw on 5/29 at 5:40 pm
(26 comments total)

“Hey Lefty! Thomas Jefferson proposed the very thing you are talking about during the writing of the Bill of Rights.

“Here it is:

“Jefferson and Madison proposed an 11th Amendment to the Constitution that would “ban monopolies in commerce,” making it illegal for corporations to own other corporations, banning them from giving money to politicians or trying to influence elections in any way, restricting corporations to a single business purpose, limiting the lifetime of a corporation to something roughly similar to that of productive humans (20 to 40 years back then), and requiring that the first purpose for which all corporations were created be “to serve the public good.””

What is the source for that non-primary material?

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By Michael Shaw, May 29, 2007 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment

Hay Rae! Too much chili!!!

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By Michael Shaw, May 29, 2007 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment

Hey Lefty! Thomas Jefferson proposed the very thing you are talking about during the writing of the Bill of Rights.

Here it is:

Jefferson and Madison proposed an 11th Amendment to the Constitution that would “ban monopolies in commerce,” making it illegal for corporations to own other corporations, banning them from giving money to politicians or trying to influence elections in any way, restricting corporations to a single business purpose, limiting the lifetime of a corporation to something roughly similar to that of productive humans (20 to 40 years back then), and requiring that the first purpose for which all corporations were created be “to serve the public good.”

The amendment didn’t pass because many argued it was unnecessary: Virtually all states already had such laws on the books from the founding of this nation until the Age of the Robber Barons.

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By Michael Shaw, May 29, 2007 at 11:53 am Link to this comment

Well thanks for the tip Skruff. I have an old truck and not sure if it could use ethanol. Also I live on the central coast of California. The weather is moderate year round. I suppose I could do it in the Sierra’s in winter. But what about the Department of Tobacco and firearms?

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By Skruff, May 29, 2007 at 7:09 am Link to this comment
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73584 by Michael Shaw on 5/28 at 7:51 pm

“Already we see Bush and company pushing for ethanol, which will no doubt be produced by the same oil companies in charge of this current debacle. I wonder if this might mean in the future when we invent reasons to attack other nations it might be for control of their corn crops and anything else we might use to make the stuff.”

Because you asked I’ll teach you how to make Alcohol which any good country boy should know.

You will need a 55 gallon drum or larger, lots of rotten apples, and a very cold winter.

Mash the apples through a screen, fill the drum with apple juice, put it outside during a cold -20 day, turn it upside down and empty the liquid into a clean vat.  anything that is not frozen is alcohol, which can be mixed with gas to form gasahol.  burns cleaner too!

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By Michael Shaw, May 28, 2007 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment

Hey Skruff, some good points! Oil and imperial ambition have walked hand in hand for more than a century. I’m only wondering what their next move will be while we “drive” down the inevitable road to exhausted fossil fuels in the next twenty five years. Already we see Bush and company pushing for ethanol, which will no doubt be produced by the same oil companies in charge of this current debacle. I wonder if this might mean in the future when we invent reasons to attack other nations it might be for control of their corn crops and anything else we might use to make the stuff.

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By JNagarya, May 28, 2007 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment

“#73089 by DennisD on 5/26 at 5:55 pm
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“By not starting impeachment proceedings as soon as they gained control of the Congress the Democrats have acquiesced to a Republican dictatorship. Congress - listen up - go home, you’re less than irrelevant.”

Is there anything more emabarrassing than those who haven’t read the Constitution nonetheless being able to determine violations of the Constitution, and demanding conformity with the Constitution by others?

Or is there anything more embarrassing than making political demands, with regard for fact and reality?

The Democrats haven’t yet sufficient votes to get discussion of the question of impeachment out of committee onto the House floor, let alone to draw Articles of Impeachment within the Committee.

The same fashionable disregard for the facts (I’m being polite: “disregard” implies you know the facts to begin with) is seen in the bashings of Democrats for the recent appropriations bill: Not having the votes to do so, they didn’t all vote to oppose it; why be accused of not supporting the troops—it’s a bogus charge which many among the electorate actually believe—with nothing to show for it?

The disreagrded facts?  Foremost, with that bill, the Democrats forced Bushit to compromise—a first, and a major accomplishment in itself.  Second, it included domestic spending Bushit had opposed.  It even included an increase in the minimum wage.

But it’s easier to senselessly bash Democrats—it’s fashionable—than it is to get and know the facts, and deal with those honestly.

As for impeachment: the Democrats don’t yet have the votes for it, that is why it hasn’t been voted on.  That is only complicated for the mindless know-it-alls who don’t need the facts because they already know it all.

And the reason they haven’t yet sufficient votes?  Republicans have yet to join that effort.

So who do you bash?  Democrats.  There’s a place with a slew of Democrat-bashers who echo you, why not joing them there: Free Republic.

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By Skruff, May 28, 2007 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
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Nice touch, the WWI history redux… but are you aware that WWI has more in common with today’s conflicts than just that? 

Germany, an indrustrial power, starved for Energy made an agreement with The Ottoman Empire that would insure Germany’s and the Ottoman’s continued dominance in their regions.  The key was the proposed Berlin to Baghdad Railroad. UNfortunately in getting countries on board, Germany forgot that for a short distance the B to B RR would cross Serbia’s borders.  Just a little tippy upper corner.

WW I deprived the German indrustrial machine of the needed energy, the Allied powers billed Germany and Austria/Hungry for the war, bankrupting both countries, and setting the stage for a worldwide depression and eventually WW II

Great plan….just like now.

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By Michael Shaw, May 28, 2007 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment

Well Skruff, IE “my countrymen are pussies,” to a degree I’d say you’re right(especially from a chicken-hawk standpoint) but actually I think a better definition can be found in Scott Ritter’s “Idiot America.” The American people simply don’t understand what’s going on. Most of them haven’t a clue about the Bill of Rights or why these laws were implemented to protect us from tyranny. How can we expect them to understand elected officials are our employees if they are bought and paid for by corporate entities? That really makes them “their” employees rather than “our” employees. The real question is, “What can we do about it?”

When government begins privatizing the military, warning lights should abound. Most Americans probably don’t even realize it let alone understand the implications. Just imagine a privatized government with it’s own private army? No draft, no enlistment, just a corporate owned entity made up of battle hardened mercenaries who are only loyal to them! The constitution means nothing. The Bill of Rights mean nothing, oaths of office mean nothing, only the corporate contract. This is where we’re headed!

Some might argue our current military acts this way anyway and to a degree they’d be right. We know of the military industrial complex and it appears what Eisenhower warned us about has finally come true. The only difference is these kids believe they are defending their homeland, the constitution and democracy. They are led to believe they are fighting in a noble cause. But the bottom line is and regardless of the fact, they are our kids dying out there. So we in turn voice our dismay to Washington and our congressional leaders. We commit acts of civil disobedience in some cases. We also peacefully redress government and take our anger out at the polls. 

Now with a privately owned and controlled military(Imagine one big Blackwater), we will have virtually no say! At first, we probably won’t even give a damn (who cares if a well paid mercenary gets his head blown off in a war for oil?), but we most certainly should give a damn. Our own kids for example, would be far less willing to gun down or bayonet their own parents. A mercenary however would do it in a nutshell the same way the Pinkerton’s busted union organizers heads in the 1890’s and beyond!

What comes to mind is WW1. WW1 was an imperial conflict between Germany and Britain. Both monarch’s cousins, the grand children of Queen Victoria, vying for imperial dominance. We can go into Serbia, assassination of the duke and all that, but basically it was a war of cousins where millions of people died for their sake and ambitions. The bottom line is Russia, whose people were literally starving and being oppressed at home while her sons were sent to war for the Czar, finally decided after two centuries of imperial abuse that enough was enough and if it weren’t for the naval forces on the Potemkin, their revolution wouldn’t have succeeded. Had there not been a WW1 in the first place and the Czar addressed socio-economical troubles at home, it might never have happened at all and Russia would have remained a monarchy. But the Czar’s wife was also a grand daughter to Queen Victoria. Literally 3 cousins warring with each other for world dominance. Millions died in what basically amounted to a family squabble.

The bottom line is America is heading down a road to perdition, similar to the road the Kings and Czars laid out back then. We ignore our average citizens at home sheerly for corporate profits, we ignore our infrastructures and cut social spending, outsource jobs and finance wars that are inimical to our own best interests. With a private army, a feudal American can be more easily realized without the fear of a stormed winter palace. Thus lies the danger. Once corporations completely privatize our military, We the People don’t stand a chance!

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By Bill Blackolive, May 28, 2007 at 8:55 am Link to this comment
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Roberto has to stay on because he knows too much.

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By Duris Maxwell, LL.B, May 28, 2007 at 8:13 am Link to this comment
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Alberto Gonzales’ little number on Congress recently should actually have been foreseeable. The tone was set early by this unconscionable wretch if one had only considered his treatment of the Geneva Convention:

Alberto Gonzales and the Geneva Convention
Did the president’s lawyer misread the Geneva Convention?
May 25, 2007
by Robin Rowland, CBC News

U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales fighting for his political life. (Ron Edmonds/Associated Press) Did Alberto Gonzales, the embattled attorney general of the United States, turn a blind eye to legal history when he wrote a memo to President George W. Bush back in 2002 suggesting ways to avoid the Geneva Convention?

While critics have always criticized Bush administration policy toward the Geneva Convention and prisoners scooped up in the so-called war on terror — policies that led to the controversies over the military prisons at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib — there has not been much attention paid to one legal argument in particular Gonzales made in his memo to Bush.

Gonzales, a Bush confidante, was White House Counsel on January 25, 2002 when he wrote the confidential memo, which subsequently found its way into the press. He is currently facing censure in the U.S. Congress, not only for the controversial treatment of detainees but because of the firing of several U.S. federal prosecutors, allegedly for partisan reasons.

In the 2002 memo entitled “Decision Re: Application of the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War to the Conflict with al-Qaeda and the Taliban,” Gonzales outlined several ways in which detainees could be held without any protection from international law.

At the time, one of the things he stated was that “some of the language of the GPW [Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War] is undefined … and it is difficult to predict with confidence what actions might be deemed to constitute violations of the relevant provisions.”

Examples at hand
Gonzales does go on to say that the Convention does prohibit “outrages against personal dignity” and “inhuman treatment.” But he doesn’t provide examples of what these terms mean, suggesting that they are part of some vague, undefined aspect of the Geneva code. Though he wouldn’t have had to look very far to find a definition of “inhuman treatment.”

In fact, a three-page discussion of the subject can be found in a standard legal text, Prisoners of War in International Armed Conflict, by Howard Levie, published by a branch of the U.S. government, the U. S. Navy War College.

If, in his advice to the president, Gonzales had wanted detailed examples of “inhuman treatment,” he could also have turned to Second World War precedents, which did exactly that. These are the kinds of precedents that should have been easy for those with the research resources of the White House to find, if they had wanted to.

Most of the precedents come from the war in the Pacific and Southeast Asia where the Imperial Japanese Army held American, British, Canadian and Australian prisoners of war.

In hearings after the war, these soldiers were found to be victims of “inhumane treatment” (the term used by British war crimes courts) or “mistreatment,” (the term used most often by the American tribunals).

There are a century of definitions of inhuman treatment in times of conflict, if Gonzales or his staff had looked for them.

Robin Rowland is a producer and photo editor with CBC.ca. This article is based on material in his forthcoming book A River Kwai Story: The Sonkrai Tribunal to be published in July by Allan and Unwin.

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By DennisD, May 26, 2007 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment
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That’s a touching sight - Bu$h & Gonzalez pledging allegiance. Someone must have walked by wearing a Haliburton tee shirt to get that reaction out of them.

By not starting impeachment proceedings as soon as they gained control of the Congress the Democrats have acquiesced to a Republican dictatorship. Congress - listen up - go home, you’re less than irrelevant.

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By nobozos, May 26, 2007 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment
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rowman, rowman, rowman….. your (too) many posts here make it obvious you should not have slept through an entire semester of civics. You, more than most, need to get hold of a copy of the Bill of Rights (that’s the first 10 amendments to the Constitution, rowgirlyman), burn some midnight oil grasping the whole “liberty” concept, THEN you can writeto your betters here, letting us in on the ones Bush hasn’t criminally, and against his oath of office, deliberately violated. Just cause I like you so much, I’ll give you a hint…. 2 and 3 are about it.  Hell of an accomplishment by a sitting president, eh?
Contrary to your patriotic posturing and trite platitudes, ‘united we stand’ is NOT the glue that holds this country together…the job has been handled quite well for 2 centuries by that documentyou seem so unfamiliar with, the Constitution of the United States of America.

In addition to brushing up on how your own government works (things like division of power and checks and balances) you should spend some (in your case, lots) of time sorting through the government’s own facts, figures and web sites to shed some light on this “fine” president’s many other assaults on our (yeah, we’ll let you stay) democracy.

Just like the guy worried about a broken toe when he’s got cancer, you should learn to recognize the real threats to our security…you might put owing China (and plenty others) BILLIONS AND BILLIONS ahead of Arab terrorists on you list. And all evidence suggests you ought to fear unbridled capitalism quite a bit more than your “socialism” boogeyman. The term “socialized” medicine went out in the 70’s you moron. This country, with lawmakers bought and paid for by the healthcare “industry” (a disgusting aknowledgement I came to despise when my own husband was dying of cancer and I could hold $1000 in nausea pills in one hand), is the only first world country on the planet with a “for profit” system, taking a terrible human toll to ensure the super rich get richer. Oh, and treat yourself to Moore’s “Sicko” for extra credit.

Just so you don’t think all I can offer you is criticism, here’s a compliment.

You have pretty good spelling for such a stupid horse’s patooty.

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By RAE, May 26, 2007 at 10:14 am Link to this comment

Please, TruthDig, replace the photo with something less hypocritical and galling.

The pic of those creeps with hands over their hearts is the greatest visual oxyMORONS on the net!

Gag.

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By Skruff, May 26, 2007 at 9:36 am Link to this comment
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#72717 by Michael Shaw on 5/25 at 10:19 am

“Right now for the most part, the loss of Habeas Corpus is aimed at so called enemy combatants. Let’s not forget the president has the power to call anyone he wishes an enemy of the state and whisk them away to some military detention center indefinitely. According to the Constitution we are all endowed with certain inalienable rights. The key word is inalienable. If we ignore the rights our forefathers bestowed upon us, even by depriving potential or real enemies, we are ultimately opening the doors to allowing government to have that same authority over us without warrant, without judicial oversight and without due process of law.”

Hate to say this, but my countrymen (to a large degree) are pussies!  We allow our employees to impose their will on us which is not US government as intended.  From Seat-belt laws to the denial of a lawyer when charged, we have been heading down this road for a long time..(EVEN BEFORE BUSH) They have a system. tell ‘em it’s for their own good, and the majority won’d resist. 

Frankly, I like to make my own decissions…that’s what freedom is all about.  My freedom to act in a way different from majority opinion. 

People on this forum have continually bemoaned the Democrats “lack of Balls” I say when the “people” grow a set, the politicians will follow. 

Long ago we got off course by calling elected folks “leaders” instead of referring to them as “employees”

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By THOMAS BILLIS, May 26, 2007 at 6:34 am Link to this comment
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They were just were paying a midnite call to see how John was doing.The fact that they had some papers they wanted him to sign to rob people of any semblance of privacy was just an accident.I think they are not telling the truth because a recently released hospital surveillance tape shows Al Gonzales carrying a horse’s head.You have to look real close because it is hard to discern when a horse’s ass is carrying a horse’s head

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By Verne Arnold, May 26, 2007 at 4:27 am Link to this comment

#72797 by Louise on 5/25 at 3:38 pm

Yes, Louise, I did…very interesting and scary!  I think Palast is right on the mark.

The good thing is it’s all illegal so there may yet be a reckoning.

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By Louise, May 25, 2007 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment
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Oh my goodness folks.
Can you all calm down long enough to take a look at this?

The Future of America Has Been Stolen
http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/24/justice-department-scandal-greg-palast/

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By national-security-4-us, May 25, 2007 at 3:17 pm Link to this comment

I’D HAVE 2 SAY THAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS SOMEWHAT ALREADY SQUANDERED - LOOK AT PEACEFUL PROTESTERS ARE ARRESTED BECAUSE SOMEONE ORDERS IT…

REDRESS GOVT. I’VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 6/2004 WHEN MY COAST GUARD FRIEND & CONFIRMED WHAT I DID & TOLD ME FEDS WERE GOING TO COVER IT UP NO AS NOT TO PAY THE REWARDS…AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED - NO REAL LIVE
THOROUGH INVESTIGATION AS TO THE CRIMES THAT I TOLD THEM WERE COMMITTED - HOUSE/SENATE INTEL & JUDICIARY COMM.

FREEDOM OF THE PRESS - WHAT FREEDOM OF THE PRESS - ON
A STORY LIKE MY THE MEDIA HAS 2 GO & GET CONFIRMATION
FROM A GOVT. OFFICIALS AS 2 WHETHER MY CLAIMS ARE LEGIT OR NOT—- SO IF THE GOVT. WANTS A TRUE STORY THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED SILENCED & SUPPRESSED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - THE GOVT. OFFICIAL JUST LIES…

PEOPLE/PRESS SEEMS 2 FORGET THESE FACTS LET ALONG THE
JEALOUSY & ENVY THAT PERMEATES IN EVERYONES’ MIND…

I HAD THE PHOTOS - I HUNTED THEM DOWN - I LOCATED THEM - I IDENTIFIED THEM & I MADE THE 911 CALL THAT
RESULTED IN THEIR CAPTURES…

THE NEXT 10 DAYS I FIND 4 OF THE REMAINING 5 & SINCE THE FT PIERCE OFFICE THOUGHT THEY WERE SMARTER THEN ME—WHEN I CAUGHT A FBI AGENT IN A LIE I CALLED
MIAMI-FBI 2 SEE IF EVERYONE WAS SHARING INTELLIGENCE
WELL MIAMI CALLED FT PIERCE WHO LIED TO MIAMI & I TOLD THE LADY SOMEONE IS BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR SKIRT.

SO I TELL HER WHAT I KNOW & I AM ASKED WHY I AM NOT CALLING CLOSER OFFICES & SAID WHY THE OFFICE THAT LIED TO ME B-4 HAS JUST LIED TO YOU…

SO LIKE 50 DAYS LATER A.K.G. IS FOUND & SHIPPED OVERSEAS 4 PAKISTAN 2 SAY THAT THEY FOUND HIM A CLEVER-DIABOLICAL PLOY TO GET OUT OF PAYING HIS REWARD - ONLY 1 QUESTION HAS 2 BE ASKED 2 A.K.G 4 THE TRUTH 2 COME OUT…

NOW 4 STARTERS I JUST CAN’T MAKE THESE FACTS UP & 4 THE MEDIA 2 BELIEVE A AGENCY WHO HAVE LIED & DECEIVED
THE PUBLIC SINCE ITS’ INCEPTION IS OXY-MORIC 2 JUST BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY…

SO YOU HAVE A SLEW OF PEOPLE WITH SECURITY CLEARANCES
& LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WHO KNOW THE TRUTH & ARE SILENT FEARING LOSING THEIR JOB OR PENSION IF THEY SPEAK OUT…

WHERE IS THE MOTTO 4 ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AT EVERY LEVEL - 2 PROTECT & SERVE - HONEST - RELIABLE TRUSTWORTHY——- YEA RIGHT…

I TELL MY MOM 2 CALL CAPTAIN WHO CONFIRMED CAPTURES &
HE SAID HE WILL CALL HIS FRIEND AT PALM BEACH FBI -
FBI AGENT TELLS CAPTAIN - “2 TELL ME 2 JUST FORGET ABOUT IT & DON’T LET IT CONSUME MY LIFE - WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT STATEMENT IS THAT COMING FROM A FBI AGENT WHO I THOUGH IS SWORN 2 UPHOLD THE LAWS…

WHERE IS HIS - FIDELITY - BRAVERY & INTEGRITY - 2 ME
HE ABSOLUTELY HAS NONE—A PRICK LIKE HIM WORSHIPS
HIS BADGE & GUN & POWER TO USE & ABUSE THE LAWS OF THE LAND & SHOULD BE REMOVE FROM HIS JOB AS DO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE JOINED IN THE CRIME OF BEING FORCED TO REMAIN SILENT…THE OVERTIME HOURS OF SITTING IN THEIR OFFICE IN THE A.C. INSTEAD OF OUT LOOKING 4 & HUNTING THESE PEOPLE DOWN…WORSHIP THEIR PAY & PENSION OVER THE TRUTH - THAT IS SCUMBAG POINT BLANK
NOW PUT THE SHOE ON THE OTHER FOOT—WOULD PEOPLE BE
SILENT IF THEIR CHILD DID WHAT I DID - I THINK NOT…

ON JUDGMENT DAY I WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH ON ALL OF THESE SO-CALLED RIGHTEOUS HYPOCRITE SWINE DEVIL WORSHIPPERS - THEY WILL NEED 2 PASS ME 2 GET 2 PARADISE & 2 PUT IT MILDLY—THAT AIN’T HAPPENING…

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By national-security-4-us, May 25, 2007 at 2:42 pm Link to this comment

listen you freakin idiotic moron 4 starters ASHCROFT/
MUELLER CAME ON TV HELD A P.CONF. ON 5/26/2004 & ASKED-NO BEGGED ALL AMERICANS 2 BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
7 PEOPLE WHO WISH 2 DO AMERICA HARM.

2 OF THEM HAD REWARDS OF 25 MILLION EACH THE OTHER 5 WERE WANTED 4 QUESTIONING - NOW SOME OF THEM HAVE REWARDS ON THEM.

THE 14TH AMENDMENT SECTION 4 - 1984 LAW PUBLIC-LAW-98-533 CLEVERLY CHANGED 2 THE RFJ PROGRAM UNDER bush
ALL DEAL WITH THIS CONGRESS APPROPRIATE FUNDS 4 REWARDS OR BOUNTIES & THE LAW SAYS TO PAY-UP WHEN SOMEONE LIKE ME FULFILLED THE LAWS.

THESE EVIL PRICKS JUST CAN’T VIOLATE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS & DESTROY PEOPLES’ LIVES FOR TELLING THE TRUTH

TENET WAS THE FALL GUY - LESS THEN A WEEK LATER 6/5/2004 HE OFFERS UP HIS RESIGNATION.

ASHCROFT/POWELL/RIDGE/RENYA & MANY OTHERS RESIGNED OVER THIS TREASON—- YET NONE OF THEM HAVE THE BALLS
TO SPEAK THE TRUTH—THEY ALL FEAR THIS DEMON-POSSESSED bush.

WHILE YOU WERE HOME WHACKING OFF TO YOUR FAVORITE HE/SHE OR SHE/HE - I WAS OUT HUNTING THESE SCUMBAGS DOWN B-4 THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE PLANTED HERE TO DO.

WHICH BY THE WAY WOULD HAVE LEFT EVERYONE A PRISONER IN THEIR OWN HOME WITH ONLY EXECUTIVE BRANCH - POLICE & MILITARY WORKING - THEN WHEN THOSE DEFAULT
ON THEIR BILLS - DIABLO & COMPANY WOULD MORE THEN LIKELY SEIZE YOUR PROPERTY & BE HAPPY 2 ESCORT YOU 2 YOUR NEW HOME—- A CONCENTRATION CAMP THAT ARE ALL READY FOR OCCUPANCY—- IT IS STILL COMING I ONLY PROLONGED IT A LITTLE LONGER BY STOPPING THE ATTACK THAT WAS PLANNED BY THOSE WHO CALL YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

LIKE I SAID PRIOR YOU & THE REST OF THEM WILL SPEND ETERNITY IN THE LAKE OF FIRE - I WILL SEE TO IT & I WILL SENTENCE YOU THERE MYSELF.

GET EDUCATED OR GET LOST - YOU MY LOSER DEMON CHILD ARE ALREADY LOST BEYOND SALVATION.

STUPIDITY SPEAKS RIGHT OUT OF THE MOUTH OF A IGNORANT
UNEDUCATED FOLLOWER OF WICKEDNESS - YOU NEVER HAD ANY
LEADERSHIP SKILLS IN YOUR LIFE.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 25, 2007 at 11:55 am Link to this comment
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“Oh, now isnt this just special. First we have “Inherit The Wind” promoting socialism and now we have “MLMrev” on the communism bandwagon.”

Rowman,
It’s pretty fuckin’ obvious you don’t have a clue what Socialism or Communism is.  To you, it’s anybody who wants to keep corporations from acting like the Mafia.

To you, a “commie” is anyone who wants to stop GE dumping toxins in your drinking water and your grandkids having three eyes and a 25 year life span.

A “commie” is anyone who wants Halliburton to have to compete for govt contracts, and then account for why they don’t deliver food to soldiers.

To you, a “commie” is anyone who’d rather see our tax dollars go to help poor people get a hand up, rather than go into the pockets of the super-rich.

You couldn’t tell a Socialist from a Communist and wouldn’t know a Communist if Joe Stalin, Mao-Tse-Tung and Castro were all banging on your front door!

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By Michael Shaw, May 25, 2007 at 11:19 am Link to this comment

Right now for the most part, the loss of Habeas Corpus is aimed at so called enemy combatants. Let’s not forget the president has the power to call anyone he wishes an enemy of the state and whisk them away to some military detention center indefinitely. According to the Constitution we are all endowed with certain inalienable rights. The key word is inalienable. If we ignore the rights our forefathers bestowed upon us, even by depriving potential or real enemies, we are ultimately opening the doors to allowing government to have that same authority over us without warrant, without judicial oversight and without due process of law. In fact this has already happened in the case of Padilla and others thanks to provisions in the patriot act and the new national security act. Opposing these draconian systems has nothing to do with loving communism or socialism. It have everything to do with respecting our own laws. If we can’t respect those laws, we have no business calling ourselves a democratic republic and we are opening up the gates to even more harsh restrictions of our civil liberty. Things like freedom of speech, the right to peacefully redress government, the freedom of the press. Right now all of these rights are being jeopardized and I for one do not wish to live under the rules of a paranoid military police state, one that resembles Stalinist Russia more so than it does democracy!.

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By rowman, May 25, 2007 at 10:01 am Link to this comment

Oh, now isnt this just special. First we have “Inherit The Wind” promoting socialism and now we have “MLMrev” on the communism bandwagon. Not to mention our nut case friend “national-security-4-us” who is pissed because he did not get a reward payoff for catching Bin Laden.

You are all crazy. This is what America has come to? If you are down with communism and socialism, go live in a country where this is already established and when you realize how good you had it and you are ready to support this country, then come back. If you are down with “national-security-4-us” , please go check into a mental hospital ‘cause frankly, your scary dude.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 25, 2007 at 9:49 am Link to this comment
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“listen brother if you only knew how 2 read & have understanding you’d comprehend it…a child can comprehend it…it is not my fault it is in 3 pieces due 2 lenght of characters we are allowed—just read it over & over & you will get the picture…”

Glad to see you turned off the caps-lock key…

“Why it’s so simple even a 4-year old could understand it! (Quick, run out and find me a 4-year old. I can’t make heads or tails of it.)”  Rufus T. Firefly, aka, Groucho Marx.

I’m sorry N-S-4, but you fit the profile of the tinfoil-hat brigade.  Your ideas and accusations run together and ramble on with no discernible purpose other than a primal scream.  Plus it all seems to be off-topic.

I think I’m actually in agreement to most of your interpretations—but it’s just to jumbled and mixed-up to tell.

And you’ve pretty much destroyed this thread with the rambles.

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By national-security-4-us, May 24, 2007 at 9:01 pm Link to this comment

listen brother if you only knew how 2 read & have understanding you’d comprehend it…a child can comprehend it…it is not my fault it is in 3 pieces due 2 lenght of characters we are allowed—just read it over & over & you will get the picture…i have no reason 2 lie about this they do & the doj ig
report shows that—patriot act abuses when they say
none occurred - doj nsa wiretaps illegal - nsl’s
letters were abused 25% of the time - WHAT ELSE IS THERE - IT’S ENDLESS…

O.P.R. had no problems understanding what i wrote 2 them - they just fucked up the investigation by going
straight 4 the throat instead of talking 2 me first getting & gathering all of the evidence which would have lead them 2 the grand old white house..

HELLO—- TREASON WOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED…

now i knew when i wrote what i wrote to O.P.R. that they would understand it wholeheartedly - they just fucked up the process of investigating as most in law enforcement does…

since my numbers were monitored at the times NSA heard exactly what was said 2 the O.P.R. person i spoke with - so they knew they were coming & why…

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By MLMrev, May 24, 2007 at 8:01 pm Link to this comment

For all of those who have understandably lost confidence in this system, and see the Dems now as just another segment of the ruling elite, you need to check out the works of Bob Avakian, Chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

Another world is possible!
http://www.revcom.us

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By Inherit The Wind, May 24, 2007 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment
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NATIONAL-SECURITY!!!!
DESPITE THE FACT THAT I SEEM 2 AGREE WITH A FAIR BIT YOU SAY (THO I M NOT SURE X-ACTLY WHAT U R SAYING), I THINK YOU SHOULD DO 4 THINGS.
1) LEARN 2 TYPE WITH COHESIVE THOUGHTS.
2) TRY TO STAY CONCISE AND RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC.
3) STOP TYPING DRUNK OR STONED!
4) DON’T TYPE EVERYTHING IN CAPS, @$$#0LE!

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By PatrickHenry, May 24, 2007 at 6:25 pm Link to this comment

By US torturing prisoners of conflict anywhere, we justify their position.

If Pelosi doesn’t proceed with impeachment and house investigations, subpoena’s and alike we (voters in all 50 states) should petition the voters of her district to replace her.

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By A. Stickney, May 24, 2007 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment
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In addition to suffering from the general malaise permeating this Administration, Gonzales is a shamless, arrant, audacious, barefaced, brash, brassy, brazen, cheeky, depraved, dissolute, flagrant, forward, hardened, high-handed*, immodest, immoral, improper, impudent, incorrigible, insolent, lewd, outrageous, overbold, presumptuous, profligate, reprobate, rude, slutty, unabashed, unashamed, unblushing, unchaste, unprincipled, and wanton individual.  He is loathsome!

Stopping the name-calling, I do think we need to convince the Speaker of the House Pelosi to pursue impeachment proceedings on Gonzales et al (on up the line)!  When Clinton was impeached for attempting to keep a personal secret, Nixon, Reagan, and Bush were not.  Their crimes were treasonous.  Something is just not working when the will is not in Congress to defend us from the enemies within.

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By national-security-4-us, May 24, 2007 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment

WHILE MOST PEOPLE ONLY SEEM 2 GIVE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT SOME STUFF WHICH MAY HAVE BASIS OR JUST CONDONING ALL OF THE WRONGS BUSH & CO. HAVE DONE 2 DESTROY AMERICA FROM W/IN IS “A” OKAY W/THEM.
WELL I’M HERE 2 TELL U ALL OF CRIMES THAT PALE IN COMPARISON 2 WHAT NIXON DID OR 4 THAT MATTER ALL OF THE PRECEEDING PRES. COMBINED XCEPT HIS DAD SINCE
BOTH OF THEM ALONG W/CLINTON HAVE SAME AGENDA AS WILL
HILLARY IF ELECTED.CHECK/SEE HOW MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAIL FROM YALE/HARVARD THE STOMPING GROUNDS OF THE SECRET SOCIETY OF THE N.W.O.“SKULL & BONES”-U’LL B SHOCKED.
THAT LETTER 2 O.P.R. A INDICTMENT OF THE CRIMES-BUSH
/CO. COMMITTED UPON ME-THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S.-THE
CONSTITUTION + THE UNETHICAL CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR OF
VIOLATING THE OATH OF OFFICE HE SWORE 2 UPHOLD + THE PUBLICS’ TRUST.THOSE WHO CONSPIRED/COLLUDED W/HIM 2 COVER THE MATTER UP R ALL GUILTY OF SOME SERIOUS CRIMES.
THE DEAD OF NIGHT IN 1945 AMERICAS’ SOVEREIGNTY WAS SUBVERTED W/SECRET PASSAGE OF A CHARTER SIGNED W/THE
U.N.-AUTHORS WERE WAR CRIMINALS & SPIES SO IN BLINK
OF A EYE PEOPLE TRICKED AMERICA INTO A PACT BECAUSE NO NATION WAS ABLE 2 DEAL W/OUR MILITARY SUPERIORITY
“IF U CAN’T BEAT’EM-JOIN’EM”.
I CAN TELL U OF THE “FAIR & BALANCED”/“KEEPING THEM
HONEST”/“BEST POLITICAL NEWS IN THE BUSINESS”-TYPE OF
SO-CALLED NEWS ALONG W/MAJOR MAGAZINES LIKE “TIME”/
“NEWSWEEK”/OTHERS.NEWSPAPERS EDITORS/SO-CALLED
“INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS”/“WATCHDOG ADVOCACY GROUPS”.
SINCE 6/2004 ALOMST EVERY-1 IN THE NEWS-RADIO/PRINT/
TV/CABLE HAVE BEEN REPEATED TOLD ABOUT THESE EVENTS/
THE CRIMES THAT ENSUED 2 COVER IT UP W/NONE OF THEM INVESTIGATING MY SIDE OF THE STORY AS THE 911 CALLER.
MEDIA’S BEEN MANIPULATED BY THE GOVT. 2 TELL US WHAT
THE FEDS TELL THEM 2 & WE CALL THAT “FREEDOM OF THE PRESS”-4 THE PRESS 2 EVEN TRY 2 INVESTIGATE MY STORY THEY HAVE 2 GO & GET SOME TYPE OF CONFIRMATION-IF THE
FEDS WANT A STORY SILENCED/SUPPRESSED FROM THE PEOPLE
THEY JUST TELL THEM BOLD FACED LIES.
THESE IDIOTS ACTUALLY BUY IT KNOWING GOVT. SECRECY IS
A STEPPING STONE 2 WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION - THERE’S A
E.O.ONCE IMPLEMENTED SHUTS THE PRESS/MEDIA DOWN WHERE
THEIR LIVELIHOOD 2 SUSTAIN LIFE IS OVER SINCE THEIR JOB IS THEIR BREAD/BUTTER.
HERE THE TRUTH GETS OUT 4 THOSE LIKE ME WHO HAVE A
“REAL LIVE STORY” 2 TELL 4 THOSE THAT SEEK/WANT 2 KNOW THE TRUTH.
HERE’S THE KICKER SINCE 6/2004 CHAIRS/CO-CHAIRS OF THE HOUSE/SENATE INTEL./JUDIC.COMM. WERE TOLD ABOUT
THIS/NEVER THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED THIS BY NOT STARTING W/ME THE 911 CALLER I INITIATED WHAT TRANSPIRED THEY LISTEN 2 THE CAST OF LIARS/DECEIVERS.
REP.HARMAN TOLD GOSS WHO TOLD BUSH WHO ELEVATED GOSS
2 CIA DIR. SINCE TENET WAS THE FALL GUY LIKE 1 WEEK AFTER THE 5/29/2004 CAPTURES-HARMAN SPOKE OUT TWICE ON WOLF BLITZERS’ SHOW ON SUNDAY/2004.
ASHCROFT/POWELL/RIDGE/RENYA & MANY OTHERS RESIGNED OUT OF DISGUST ONCE IT WAS CLEAR 2 THEM JUST WHAT TYPE OF EVIL PRICK BUSH IS/WILL BECOME SOON.
2 ME THEY’RE ALL COWARDS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE TRUTH
THEY HEADED MAJOR POSTS IN THE CABINET & LEFT IN SILENCE OVER FEARING BUSH/NOT FEARING THEIR CREATOR
SO THEY’RE LIARS & NO BETTER THEN THOSE WHO DID WHAT THEY DID OR THE SO CALLED TERRORISTS THEY CLAIM 2 LOATHE.
I HAVEN’T EVEN BEGUN 2 TELL THE ENTIRE CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT BEGAN W/THOSE CALLS 2 ASHCROFTS’/BUSHS’
COMMENT LINES THAT CULMINATED W/ME APPARENTLY RUINING
SOME-1s’ GAME PLAN 2 SUSPEND THE CONSTITUTION/
INSTITUTE MARTIAL LAW + POSTPONE/DELAY THE 2004 PRES.
ELECTIONS W/A PRES. E.O. WHICH IS STILL COMING.
THIS ORDER GIVES THE PRES. THE POWER 2 “NEVER LEAVE OFFICE”-HIS DICTATORSHIP WILL COMMENCE WHEN IT BEGINS
CONGRESS IS BARRED 4-6 MONTHS FROM DEBATING THE ORDER
SO CONGRESS WILL BE SHIT OUT OF LUCK AS WELL.
IF THE ORDER IS/CAN BE MADE 2 BE RETROACTIVE OR
CONSECUTIVE-TERRORISTIC EVENTS WILL BE MADE 2 OCCUR
SO THAT THE ORDER CAN BE REINSTATED OVER & OVER/
WHEREAS CONGRESS WOULD NO LONGER BE DEEMED EFFECTIVE
SIMPLY FROM THE WORDS CONTAINED IN THE ORDER.

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By michael, May 24, 2007 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment
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Does anyone else find it strange that after years of hearing how the (liberal) judges were interpating the constitution instead of reading it.  These bozos seem to do the same thing ????  Oh the constitution says you cant take away habeus corpus but it does not explictly give it to us.  Geneva connvetion ???  well these are enemy combatants not soldiers   war on terror but no delecration of war ????

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By national-security-4-us, May 24, 2007 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

PART 3 LETTER SENT TO SENATOR…

SEN.LEAHY WAS TOLD WELL IN ADVANCE OF A TERRORIST CAPTURED HERE IN FLA.& FLOWN 2 ANOTHER COUNTRY 4 THEM
2 SAY THEY GOT HIM 2 AVOID PAYING THE REWARD ON HIM..
SEN.LEAHY WAS TOLD OF THIS LONG B-4 ANY DISCLOSURE OF
THE SECRET CIA RENDITION PROGRAM WAS MADE KNOWN 2 THE
PUBLIC.AS WERE OTHERS..

O.P.R. WAS TOLD BY ME THAT N.S.L.‘s WERE LIKELY BEING
MISUSED/ABUSED FROM A 3 PAGE LETTER THAT I SENT THEM ON 9/13/2005-IN ORDER 2 STOP ME FROM GETTING A LAWYER
2 REPRESENT ME/TAKE MY CASE.THIS MATTER WAS STOPPED DEAD IN ITS’ TRACKS-SINCE THE WHITE HOUSE KNEW WHAT THEY HAD DONE & TOOK THE APPROPRIATE STEPS 2 STOP THE
INVESTIGATION FROM GOING FORWARD BY DENYING SECURITY CLEARANCES 2 JUSTICE DEPT. OFFICIALS WHO WERE GOING
RIGHT 2 THE TOP INSTEAD OF STARTING THE INVESTIGATION
AT THE BOTTOM & WORKING THEIR WAY 2 THE TOP..

SEN. AS YOU CAN SEE W/OUT THE JUDICIARY BRANCH BECOMING TOTALLY INDEPENDENT FROM THE EXEC.BRANCH AS IS THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH THE AMOUNT OF CORRUPTION I HAVE JUST ILLUSTRATED 2 YOU WILL ONLY PERSIST/GET A HELLOFA LOT WORSE-U.S. SUPREME COURT INTERVENTION OF PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION NOT ONCE BUT TWICE IF IT WAS DEEMED NECESSARY.THIS TYPE OF BILL/LAW IS LONG OVERDUE/NEEDED 2 CURB RAMPANT ABUSE OF POWER/
CORRUPTION..

I STILL HOPE 2 BE SUBPEONAED ONE DAY ALTHOUGH MY FAITH IS FADING FAST SINCE ENOUGH CRIMES WERE TOTALLY
EXPLAINED THOROUGHLY & YET NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IF WE ARE A NATION WHO LIVES BY THE RULE OF LAW AS THE PRES. STATES-THEN HOW CAN SO MUCH CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR BE TOLERATED & TOLD 2 INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEES YET NOTHING HAPPENS..

ARE THOSE IN THE EXEC.BRANCH & ITS’ LOYAL AGENCIES IMMUNE 2 THE LAWS WE ALL MUST ABIDE BY-ARE THEY ABOVE
THE LAW 2 NEVER FACE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION 4 THE CRIMES THEY DELIBERATELY/INTENTIONAL BREAK-IF SO THEN
AMERICA AS A NATION IS NO BETTER OFF FROM THOSE OPPRESSIVE NATIONS OR THOSE W/DICTATORIAL POWERS..
HISTORY CONSISTENTLY REPEATS ITSELF & AMERICA IS FALLING UNDER THOSE PARAMETERS ON MANY FRONTS & THE END RESULT WILL BE THE DEMISE OF AMERICA AS WE ONCE KNEW THIS GREAT NATION AMERICA 2 BE..

SEN.NELSONS’COMMENTS ABOVE WILL RING TRUE SOON ENOUGH
IF THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS ISN’T ON THE TABLE/ON THE TABLE B-4 CONGRESS HAS NO AUTHORITY LEFT WHATSOEVER..

THIS IS ALL COMMON KNOWLEDGE WHICH HAS BEEN EXPOSED/
REVEALED 4 DECADES & IS EVEN MADE POSSIBLE 4 ALL 2 KNOW IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS..

I HOPE YOU RECEIVE THIS EMAIL IN GOOD FAITH SIR SINCE
I STILL BELIEVE MY COMMUNICATIONS ARE BEING ILLEGALLY
MONITORED & ALSO DUE 2 THE FACT I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING OR NOT IF YOU ACTUALLY RECEIVED ANY OF MY PAST EMAILS DUE 2 NO CONFIRMATION OF RECEIVING ANY OF THEM AT ALL..

AMERICA NEEDS DRAMATIC CHANGES NOW - B-4 IT CEASES 2 EXIST..             
                  SINCERELY YOURS TRULY,
                  NATIONAL-SECURITY-4-US

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By national-security-4-us, May 24, 2007 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment

PART 2 LETTER TO SENATOR

NOW AS 2 THE ORIGIN OF THE N.S.A.ILLEGAL WIRE-TAPPING
I’M SORRY 2 SAY THAT WAS MY IDEA W/THE UTMOST OF
NOBLEST INTENTIONS.BACK IN 2/2002 TO 4/2002 I DID
CALL ASHCROFTS’/BUSHS’ COMMENT LINES W/LIKE A DOZEN IDEAS ON HOW 2 IMPROVE NATIONAL SECURITY & BETTER FIGHT THE WAR ON TERROR.NEEDLESS 2 SAY ALL WERE IMPLEMENTED BY WAY OF EXECUTIVE ORDER-MILITARY ORDER
-NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTIVE DECISIONS OR BY NEW LAWS
OR TECHNIQUES ON THE BOOKS 2 MAKE AMERICA THE SAFEST IT CAN POSSIBLY BE & BECOME..

NOW IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME ASK THOSE WHO WERE HEADS OF THEIR POST WHO RESIGNED AFTER THIS 5/29/2004 EPISODE-ASHCROFT-POWELL-RIDGE-RENYA & MANY OTHERS.AS
THE KNIGHTS SAT AROUND THE ROUND TABLE PRIOR 2 THE P.D.B.‘s-I’M SURE THEY ALL HEARD THE TAPED MESSAGES I LEFT & IT’S SAD 2 SAY THAT THEY TWISTED UP A GOOD THING 2 SERVE THEIR EVIL-DIABOLICAL & CORRUPT WAYS..

THE CALL WENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS I DON’T RECALL IF IT WAS MADE 2 BUSH OR ASHCROFTS’ COMMENT LINES.CALL
WAS MADE BETWEEN 2/2002 TO 4/2002..

“GOOD EVENING MR.PRESIDENT/ASHCROFT-I DO BELIEVE IT’S
ABOUT TIME THAT THE GOVT.USE ITS’ AUTHORITY 2 WIRETAP
CELL-PHONE COMMUNICATIONS IN HOPES OF STOPPING SOME MAJOR CRIMES B-4 THEY’RE COMMITTED-LIKE IT WAS USED IN THE DISMANTLING OF THE MAFIA RINGS OF THE 1980’s. BE IT A SPOUSE HIRING A HITMAN 2 KILL THE OTHER OR
PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT ROBBING A BANK OR DRUG KINGPINS DISCUSSING THEIR DRUG DEALS OVER THE AIRWAVES & YES YOU MAY EVEN CAPTURE A TERRORIST DISCUSSING THEIR PLANS 2 COMMIT A TERRORIST ATTACK-ETC.-ETC..

SO THE NEXT DAY UPON I BELIEVE IT WAS MADE 2 ASHCROFT
HEARING THIS HE IMMEDIATELY CONVENES THE KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE-PLAYS THE MESSAGE I LEFT W/ALL GOOD INTENTIONS & THE NOBLEST OF WAYS 2 COMBAT SERIOUS CRIMES B-4 THEY ARE COMMITTED & IN THE SUMMER/FALL OF
2002 ALL YOU HERE ABOUT IS FISA THIS & FISA THAT..

I DIDN’T CONCEIVE IN MY MIND 4 A SECOND THAT THIS WAS
GOING 2 BE USED 2 ILLEGALLY MONITOR ORDINARY LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AT ALL WHATSOEVER HAD I HAD THE INSIGHT OR FORE-WARNING OR VISION THAT THIS WAS GOING
2 BE THE CASE 2 BE USED IN SUCH A WAY THE CALL/ MESSAGE WOULD OF NEVER HAD BEEN MADE OR LEFT..

UNFORTUNATELY THAT WASN’T THE CASE & WHAT HAS HAPPENED-HAPPENED.SO NOW WE HAVE GOT 2 FIND A WAY 2 FIX IT & OR TERMINATE IT-SO THAT EVERY-1 ISN’T FAIR GAME 2 BE EAVESDROPPED UPON.I BELIEVE HAD THE PROGRAM
BEEN USED THE WAY I EXPLICITLY EXPRESSED IT ABOVE 2 BE USED-NO LEAKS WOULD’VE NEVER SURFACED-LEAKS ONLY SURFACE WHEN SOME SERIOUS VIOLATIONS OF U.S. LAWS ARE
BREACHED/BROKEN & HERE THE LEAKS WERE A GOOD THING 2
STOP VIOLATING VIOLATIONS OF U.S. LAWS BY DIABOLICAL
-CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR..

THE FISA JUDGE WHO RESIGNED OVER THIS-SHOULD’VE BEEN ENOUGH 2 TELL CONGRESS SOMETHING ISN’T RIGHT AT ALL-JUST FROM THE MERE SCOPE THAT IT TAKES 4 ONE OF THESE
JUDGES 2 BE APPOINTED 2 THIS POST..

IN CLOSING IT WASN’T GEN.HAYDENS’OR ANY-1 ELSES’ IDEA
4 THAT MATTER & 2 BACK-DATE THE PROGRAMS’ INITIAL START & THE SOLE AUTHORITY 2 USE IT 2 COINCIDE W/
9/11/01-IMPLEMENTING IT SHORTLY THEREAFTER IS A CLEVER PLOY 2 HIDE THE TRUTH..

4 EVEN MORE DAMNING EVIDENCE OF THE TRUTH-I’D OF
THOUGHT I’D BEEN SUBPEONAED BY NOW 4 CONGRESS 2 GET 2
THE TRUTH ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT UNFORTUNATELY STARTED/ORIGINATED/MANIFESTED ITSELF IN-BY & THRU MY ACTIONS..

SEN.FEINSTEIN WAS TOLD BY ME A LONG AGO WELL IN ADVANCE OF ANY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF THIS PROGRAM BEING
MADE PUBLIC-THAT I BELIEVED THAT MY COMMUNICATIONS WERE BEING ILLEGALLY MONITORED.WHICH AROSE AFTER THE 5/29/2004 CAPTURES/MY DISCLOSURE OF THIS EVENT & THE LIKELY POSSIBILITY/PROBABILITY OF A GOVT. COVER-UP.AS
WERE OTHERS..

SEN.LEAHY WAS TOLD WELL IN ADVANCE OF A TERRORIST CAPTURED HERE IN FLA.& FLOWN 2 ANOTHER COUNTRY 4 THEM
2 SAY THEY GOT HIM 2 AVOID PAYING THE REWARD ON HIM..
SEN.LEAHY WAS TOLD OF THIS LONG B-4 ANY DISCLOSURE OF
THE SECRET CIA RENDITION PROGRAM WAS MADE KNOWN 2 THE
PUBLIC.AS WERE OTHERS..

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By national-security-4-us, May 24, 2007 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

SENT YESTERDAY 2 SOME-1 EXPLAINING HOW 2 FIX THE CORRUPTION LEARN HOW 2 READ & STOP BEING A JEALOUS/
ENVIOUS LITTLE PUSSY PRICK LIKE BUSH & CO. WERE &
FUCKED MY LIFE UP & OVER 4 DOING WHAT THEY ASKED.


DEAR SENATOR             5/23/2007-5:35 PM

THIS IS LAST PIECE OF INSIGHT I’M WILLING 2 PROVIDE
SINCE THE NUMEROUS FACTS I’VE STATED NEVER SPAWNED A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION INTO CRIMINAL CONDUCT BY A VAST NUMBER OF HI-LEVEL ELECTED/APPOINTED OFFICIALS..
4 STARTERS I BELIEVE THE SENATE HAS 2 CRAFT A BILL THAT STATES ONLY THE SENATE HAS THE POWER 2 DE-CONFIRM THOSE THAT THE SENATE CONFIRMS - 4 A WIDE ASSORTMENT OF REASONS OR OFFENSES..
W/OUT THIS TYPE OF LAW-THE CORRUPTION WILL ONLY PERSIST..
ALSO THE SENATE SHOULD THINK ABOUT AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION OR EVEN RATIFYING THE CONSTITUTION - SO THAT THE JUDICIAL BRANCH IS TOTALLY INDEPENDENT FROM THE EXEC.BRANCH-AGAIN W/OUT THIS-GROSS CRIMINAL CONDUCT-IMMORAL BEHAVIOR ALONG W/NO ETHICAL STANDARDS
SEEM 2 MATTER WHATSOEVER-REGARDLESS OF CONGRESSIONAL
OVERSIGHT OR INPUT FROM THE WATCHDOG ADVOCACY GROUPS.
BOTH PARTIES HAVE USED/ABUSED/BENEFITED FROM HOW THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY ONCE SOME-1 IS ELECTED/APPOINTED 2 THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-THEIR VERY OWN PERSONAL
CRONIES ARE PLACED INTO POSITIONS THAT HAVE SUBVERTED
THE SO-CALLED RULE OF LAW WE AS A NATION HOLD SO DEARLY 2 UPHOLD-THIS PRACTICE MUST END..
ONLY A MEASURE AS DRASTIC AS THIS WILL SAVE AMERICA FROM EXCEEDING THAT OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE PRIOR 2 ITS’ FALL..
W/ALL OF THE INFO. I’VE PROVIDED IN REGARDS 2 SEVERE CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW & THE SO-CALLED
U.S.CONSTITUTION THOSE ARE SWORN 2 UPHOLD I CAN SAY W/OUT A DOUBT THAT OUR VERY OWN ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE
FOLLOWING IN THE VERY FOOT-STEPS OF THE ROMAN SENATE & WE ALL KNOW THE RESULTS OF WHAT HAPPENED THEN THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE DUE 2 ABUSE OF POWER & MORBID CORRUPTION & STANDARDS OF LIVING..
AS SENATOR NELSON STATED RECENTLY AT A (SIC) HEARING
“ABOUT NOT ALLOWING A DICTATOR 2 PICK & CHOOSE WHAT
EVER LAWS HE SEES FIT 2 UPHOLD OR BREAK”-FROM WATCHING THIS HEARING THIS JUST GOES SHOW THAT IF THE
JUDICIAL BRANCH & ALL OF ITS’ AGENCIES WERE TOTALLY &
TRULY INDEPENDENT OF THE EXEC.BRANCH - CIRCUMVENTION
OF LAWS WOULD NOT EVEN EXIST OR EVER HAPPEN..
AS 4 GONZALES BEING PICKED AS U.S.A.G.-I JUST SAW A 24 EPISODE WHERE I MISSED SOME OF IT B-4-SEASON 4 I BELIEVE-BAUER KIDNAPS PRES.LOGAN 2 GET A CONFESSION
OUT OF HIM JUST IN CASE HE DOESN’T HE PLANTS A LISTENING DEVICE ON THE HIS PEN & WHEN HE RETURNS 2 THE FUNERAL OF PRES. PALMER-THE STAGE WAS ALREADY SET
4 PRES.LOGANS’WIFE 2 GO BALLISTIC SO THAT THE CONFESSION WOULD BE FORTHCOMING UNBEKNOWEST 2 PRES. LOGAN THINKING SHE WAS BUGGED & HE WASN’T..
THE MORAL OF THIS STORY I JUST DESCRIBED IS THAT ONCE
THE CONFESSION WAS OBTAINED THE U.S.A.G. HAD 2 MAKE THE CALL 2 THE SECRET SERVICE 2 ARREST PRES.LOGAN SOMETHING GONZALES WOULD NEVER DO EVEN WHEN HE WOULD KNOW IT’S THE LAWFUL THING 2 DO SO HOPEFULLY YOU NOW SEE WHY HE WAS CHOSEN 4 THE POST OF U.S.A.G..
A SENATE BILL/LAW OF DE-CONFIRMING THOSE THAT THE SENATE CONFIRMS IS OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY SO THAT THE SENATE CAN REMOVE THOSE THAT THE SENATE PUT THERE
IN THE FIRST PLACE-EITHER BY CHOICE OR FORCE OR BY COMMAND OR DEMAND-LEGALISTICALLY OR BY BEING DECEIVED
BY THOSE WHO WERE GOING 2 BE OR HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN CONFIRMED..
NOW AS 2 THE ORIGIN OF THE N.S.A.ILLEGAL WIRE-TAPPING
I’M SORRY 2 SAY THAT WAS MY IDEA W/THE UTMOST OF
NOBLEST INTENTIONS.BACK IN 2/2002 TO 4/2002 I DID
CALL ASHCROFTS’/BUSHS’ COMMENT LINES W/LIKE A DOZEN IDEAS ON HOW 2 IMPROVE NATIONAL SECURITY & BETTER FIGHT THE WAR ON TERROR.NEEDLESS 2 SAY ALL WERE IMPLEMENTED BY WAY OF EXECUTIVE ORDER-MILITARY ORDER
-NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTIVE DECISIONS OR BY NEW LAWS
OR TECHNIQUES ON THE BOOKS 2 MAKE AMERICA THE SAFEST IT CAN POSSIBLY BE & BECOME..

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By Inherit The Wind, May 24, 2007 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment
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“the revelations about how he / clinton failed to deal with bin laden when they could have but I wont.”

That’s because you can’t. You just spewed the regulation reich-wing propaganda that is completely and totally false!

Clinton started acting against Bin Laden and what happened? The Re-thug trolls in the House, Senate and on Fox Noize shrieked that it was all just a red-herring to distract us from the important issue, Monica Lewinsky.

They made fun of the cruise missile attacks and the so-called “aspirin factory” that was destroyed.  But despite the criticism, late in his administration, Bill Clinton began a full-court press against Bin Laden. Yet, from January 21, 2001 to 8:45am September 11, 2001, the Bushies shut it all down! There was no anti-terrorisim effort. Nothing, Nada, Gornischt, Rien and all because that was “Clinton. We don’t do Clinton”.

And on September 12, 2001, the spin machine and propaganda lies began being generated to try to hide the total criminal incompetence of Bush&Co;. and do what they could to ... blame it on Clinton.

Either you are a dupe, buying into that crap because you haven’t done your homework, or, what I really suspect, is you are just a troll, tossing out “I voted for Clinton” to throw us off the trail.

Al Gore is no socialist. It’s not socialism to have the government protect us when businesses want to cheat us. The air and water they pollute are just as much ours as theirs. They shouldn’t be able to put poisons in food. They shouldn’t be able to lie about what is in the food they sell us.  Mostly they shouldn’t be able to buy government simply to have it protect them.

That’s not socialism.  Neither are public schools socialism.

Socialism is the government owning and running all the means of production, all the industries, and all the services. You cannot own stock or have corporations in socialism.  You re-thugs don’t understand the regulating commerce (guaranteeded under the Constitution) is not owning or running businesses.

Government steps in when Ford produces brand-new cars that get 7 miles per gallon, belch tons of pollutants, kill their passengers in 15 mph crashes, and have gas tanks that explode under minimal impact, and have neither seat belts nor roll-over protection.

Chevy still makes Corvette convertibles that will kill you if they roll over.  No reinforced windshield, no roll-bar.  Euro-cars have them because they are required if they are going to be sold in Europe.

It’s not socialism.  It’s common sense.

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By Michael Shaw, May 24, 2007 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

It is refreshing to see a brave and honest man like Robert Scheer to come forth and tell it like it is.

This administration represents the worst enemy to freedom and democracy in this nation’s history, more so than acts of terrorism, more so than Hitler’s Reich and more so than King George the 3rd.

Gonzales, just as his cohort John Yoo, who basically said it’s all right to torture children, are guilty of war crimes and if this were 1945 Nuremberg, they’d be sharing cells with Himmler and Goering! These people in charge of our government aren’t fit to run a basket weaving contest. They are criminals, human rights violators, just as were Pinochet and his buddy Henry Kissinger who set up death squads throughout Latin American with the blessings of Ronald Reagan.

It is a blatant disgrace to see these “architects of torture” in power and why they still are in power is simply amazing! By ignoring the Geneva Conventions and promoting then enacting torture, these people have not only broken grounds in moral decency, they have broken both national and international laws! Foreign treaties are the law of the land according to our Constitution and as we know the laws laid down in the Geneva conventions were written in great part by our own lawmakers!

And here again comes Gonzales, with the blessings of this president, trying to get a sick non acting attorney general to be coerced into signing even more lawlessness into law, to legalize illegal domestic spying on the general public! This same group who have eliminated Habeas Corpus, illegally politicized the federal prosecutors office and who have just given themselves power to disable the other two branches of government if we have another Katrina or earthquake, or anything else the president deems as a national emergency! This group of liars who have run us into the ground economically, lied us into war, stolen from our coffers, sold out our children’s futures for tax breaks to the rich, have tortured and spirited people away using extreme rendition. These people, why are they still in power? Where in the hell are impeachment proceedings? Where is the outrage? These people belong in front of a judge at the International War Crimes Tribunal! They should no longer rule and they should never, ever be allowed to serve in government again!

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By L. Gordon, May 24, 2007 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment
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KEEP TEXANS OUT OF GOVERNMENT AND OUT OF CALIFORNIA!

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By rowman, May 24, 2007 at 9:37 am Link to this comment

thanks Leefeller. perhaps there is a bit of sport here wink

Folks, such as Lefty, pride themselves on some knowlege they think they have. They are unable to rise on their own merits so they seek to beat down others in an attempt to create an artificial superiority.

I would highly recommend a reading of Socrates’ Defense to anyone who feels the need to proclaim wisdom and knowledge.

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/apology.html

I hope some of you do take time to read this.

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By kevin99999, May 24, 2007 at 8:44 am Link to this comment
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It used to be I was a big defender of the government. I realize I was naive to think the government is there to protect the citizens. How wrong I was. The government does not give a damn about the citizens…it owned and operated by big business. The purpose of the government is to protect their power and property and to launch economic, political, and military wars to expand those interests. But, of course, the citizens would pay the expense.

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By Leefeller, May 24, 2007 at 8:17 am Link to this comment

Rowman, you remind me of kids poking a stick at the barking dog, just having fun,  wanting to see what will happen.

Not being a big Gore fan, I am not going to defend him, but when you use terms like socialist agendas, you lose my interest,  you are using a word which you believe to be a point?

Supporting your argument against baseless assumptions by using baseless assumptions is not an argument.  Maybe you can expand on your following opinions?

“ Bush just happened to be the better choice of the two given the situation our country encountered and he did a very good job with it”. 

“Bush was a gift. If anything, he gave you something to hate and complain about. For me, well.. he saved our country from those who would have sold us out to Iran”.

What do you mean by “those who would have sold us out to Iran?”

Both opinions seem like baseless assumptions to me, or at least baseless opinions.  I repeat my first sentence. Rowman, you are just having fun. For what it is worth, I actually enjoy your posts,

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By rowman, May 24, 2007 at 7:21 am Link to this comment

ummm. reality check. AL Gore did not win. I know, I voted for him.

You think he would have done all those wonderful things but his actions as post VP lead me to believe otherwise. Your assumptions are baseless.

I could easily respond in kind with all the negative impacts his socialist agenda would have imposed on us or the revelations about how he / clinton failed to deal with bin laden when they could have but I wont. You are in love with the man and blinded as a result.

Even more entertaining is your beleif that the Dems are really that much different from the Repubs. They are cut from the same cloth. Bush just happened to be the better choice of the two given the situation our country encountered and he did a very good job with it.

Bush was a gift. If anything, he gave you something to hate and complain about. For me, well.. he saved our country from those who would have sold us out to Iran.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 24, 2007 at 5:21 am Link to this comment
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What is National-Security’s problem? That multi-post rant had little to do with Gonzales being such a cold-blooded neo-nazi parasite. 

That bedside attempt to bully John Ashcroft was straight out of Newt Gingrich’s divorce playbook.

As for what would be different if President Gore, the legitimately elected President, were in power?  Well, I cannot say for sure that 9/11 would not have happened. While the neglect of the Bush admin regarding terrorism up until 9am on 9-11-2001 was truly criminal, would THAT have stopped it? I don’t know and neither does anybody else.

But I DO know that Al Gore would not have sat there like a deer in the headlights, blank and panicky, wondering what to do, then running and hiding.

I DO know without a doubt that Al Gore would not have spurned the historic and unprecedented offers from Iran to help in any way when we went to Afghanistan to get the source of the killers: Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

I DO know that we would not have double-crossed and abandoned Afghanistan in a rush to invade Iraq.

I DO know with 100% certainty that we would NOT now be embroiled in a horrible quagmire of a war in Iraq that has killed more Iraqis and Americans in 4 years than the monster Hussein killed in 30 years.

I DO know that the enormous deficit Bush created out of an enormous budget surplus would still be a surplus.

I DO know that the full-court assault on our civil liberties would NEVER have taken place.

I DO know that neither John Roberts nor Samuel Alito would ever have gotten near the United States Supreme Court.

I DO know that when New Orleans was hammered by Katrina FEMA would have been far, FAR better equipped to handle it, not being run by a fired racehorse-dealer.  I DO know that sufficient National Guardsmen would have been available.  I DO know that Bush’s response: Give Halliburton another Billion Dollars would never have happened.  And I DO know that actions would have been taken to actually FIX the problems.

I DO know that the recent tornados in Kansas would have had a far, far more effective reaction than hand-wringing.

I DO know that our allies around the world would not have abandoned us in disgust the way they have.

I DO know that America and the world would be safer, happier and more prosperous had Al Gore taken his rightful place as the 43rd president rather than Bush the Usurper.

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By kanuear, May 24, 2007 at 4:31 am Link to this comment
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If you really want to make an effect on the Bush boot and the world have everyone in opposition to this administration send a personal registered letter to Bush to resign his position and to take his cabinet with him. This can be a start. I’m sick and tired of hearing the whining and crying about what these people have done to the country. The people are ALLOWING them to get away with what they are doing and have done. It is your children who are getting killed for wealthy pockets. It is your children that are being forced to murder for those same pockets. It is this administration that is making the US look bad to the rest of the world. Damit, this country belongs to the people, all of the people, we…. the people. NOT TO A HAND FULL OF WEALTHY IGNORANT, GREADY, SPINELESS, HATEFUL, BASTARDS AND COWARDS THAT HIDE BEHIND PERSONAL BLIND PIT BULLS ABUSIND NATIONAL LAW, WORLD LAW AND THE US CONSTITUTION. IT IS THE PEOPLE WHO MUST MAKE EXAMPLES AND SET THIS LAND STRAIGHT AGAIN.

IT IS NOT TERRORIST WHO ARE LOCKED OUT AND MONITORED IS THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE IN LOCK DOWN. THE TERRORIST CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT BUT IT IS THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY THAT LIVE IN FEAR BECAUSE OF IT’S GOVERNMENT. LOCKED DOORS DO NOT LOCK OUT CRIMINALS. THEY LOCK HONEST PEOPLE IN….

IF YOU LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND CARE ABOUT IT…...

TAKE IT BACK !!!!

IF NOT SHUT UP!

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By national-security-4-us, May 23, 2007 at 11:07 pm Link to this comment

PART 2 CONTINUATION OF O.P.R. LETTER


My friend in the COAST GUARD told me “THAT FED.
OFFICIALS WILL TRY 2 COVER THIS UP,NO 911 CALL,I DID
NOTHING,2 AVOID PAYING THE REWARD OF $25 MILLION - HE
FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED - HAD ON HIS CAPTURE AT THE TIME” - which was changed twice since then - once I was aware MY ACTIONS were going 2 be denied,I CONTACTED CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS 2 SAFEGUARD THIS,who in turn held some hearings I saw openly & of course CLOSED DOOR HEARINGS..   

It didn’t take long 4 people 2 realize,from whom these hearings arose from,I contacted NO PRESS OR ATTORNEYS,I believed I followed proper PROTOCOL,in seeking COMPENSATION 4 MY ACTIONS..Now it seems some1
will not allow the PROPER AUTHORITIES-2 NOMINATE ME 4 THE REWARDS-THRU THE REWARDS 4 JUSTICE PROGRAM..

Then on 6/8/04,I called MIAMI-FBI W/INTEL ON 4 VEHICLES,ONE I BELIEVED 2 BE AHMED KHALFAN GHAILANI W/“SPECIFIC DETAILS”,only 2 hear on 7/25/04 he was captured,yet found overseas,A PLOY I BELIEVE 2 DENY PAYING ANOTHER $25 MILLION REWARD THEN,which was changed twice after both were CAPTURED,2 up to 25 million & now up to 5 million..   

Congressional hearings arose after the 3 were captured,& in 11/04 my life turned sour,with a VINDICTIVE VANDETTA 2 SILENCE ME & CRIPPLE ME LEGALLY
& ECONOMICALLY-I was pulled over 4 times in 4 days,4
no apparent reason & let go..I believe DOJ/FBI WERE TRYING 2 FIND A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY 2 STOP-ARREST & OR DETAIN ME..

Well on 11/21/04,I believe I had a FEDERALLY FABRICATED MOTOR VEHICLE STOP-performed on me using Aerial Surveillance (BREVARD COUNTY)& LEARNING MY AGENDA BY ILLEGALLY WIRETAPPING MY CELL PHONE,
LEARNING MY EVERY MOVE..At 7:15 AM on a Sunday going 2 work(11/21/04)-I was stopped w/a FALSE PROBABLE CAUSE PREMISE-VERY IMPORTANT PAPERS-LETTERS-FAXES + INTELLIGENCE WAS SEIZED OUT OF MY CAR,& SENT 2 THE FBI,AS DEPUTY STATED UNDER OATH IN OPEN COURT..   

The evidence in my favor (cars’ camera) was suddenly inoperable,I FIRMLY BELIEVE FBI INFLUENCED MANY OF THESE MATTERS-MULTIPLE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS-THE COURT PROCEEDINGS & OUTCOME-MY 6 MONTHS LOST OF GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT-A JUDICIAL QUALIFICATION COMMISSIONS’ DECISION,PROBATION & EVERYTHING ALONG THE WAY.. 

(PLUS A HOST OF OTHER CRIMINAL/CIVIL VIOLATIONS) 

I can say this w/CERTAINTY,due to the way a FBI FT.
PIERCE FIELD OFFICE AGENT spoke 2 me,upon me calling this office in early 6/04-telling of this 5/29/04 incident,only 2 be treated with ARROGANCE-IGNORANCE &
DISRESPECT & ALL FUTURE CALLS WENT 2 MIAMI-FBI..My friend in the COAST GUARD KNEW OF ANY/ALL INFORMATION
PRIOR 2 & FIRSTHAND B-4 ANY CALLS 2 MIAMI-FBI SINCE
ALL VISUALS I HAD OCCURRED ON SAT. OR SUN.

After the 5/29/04 captures of F.A.M.& A.S.,ON 6/5/04 I SPOT 2 MORE-ONE I LOST-YET LOCATED AGAIN ON MY RETURN TRIP & ANOTHER I ACQUIRED ALL RELEVANT VEHICLE
INFORMATION - CALL COAST GUARD FRIEND & TELL HIM
SPECIFIC INTEL 2 FOLLOW UP ON,THEN ON 6/6/04 I SPOT WHO I BELIEVE WAS GHAILANI-CALLED MY COAST GUARD FRIEND & SAID I WAS CALLING MIAMI-FBI ON MONDAY WITH WHAT I ACQUIRED-ON 6/8/04,I CALL MIAMI-FBI & GAVE ALL
RELEVANT INFORMATION & I WAS ASKED WHY I AM NOT CALLING CLOSER FIELD OFFICES & I EXPLAINED MYSELF THOROUGHLY..   

Unfortunately my carpentry employment took me 2 Orlando,which totally disrupted me from patrolling the area in which those were spotted at..Now I am PUNISHED BEYOND BELIEF 4 SPEAKING THE TRUTH & POSSIBLY EXPOSING POTENTIAL CORRUPTION-THRU DENIAL OF
MY ACTIONS-PAYMENT OF THE REWARDS’ COMPENSATION & POTENTIAL THEFT OF THE SAME..I WAS CIVIL-PATIENT-TRYING 2 ACQUIRE INFORMATION ONLY 2 BE SPUN IN A CIRCLE WHICH FORCED ME 2 SAFEGUARD THESE MATTERS-IN-BY & THRU CONGRESS..   

***ALSO I AM AWARE BOTH INDIVIDUALS(F.A.M.+ A.K.G.)  WERE IN POSSESSION OF LAPTOPS & ONCE HACKED PROVIDED
MANY MORE ARRESTS GLOBALLY - WITH PROBABLE REWARD OR BOUNTY IMPLICATIONS-ONLY 2 BE DENIED COMPENSATION ALTOGETHER.. 

HERE IS HOW MY CIVIL RIGHTS-ARE-HAVE & CONTINUE 2 BE VIOLATED..

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By national-security-4-us, May 23, 2007 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment

FOR WHAT TELLING THE TRUTH IDIOT—LISTEN YOU BUSH
MAGGOT - YOU & ALL OF YOUR CREW WILL BE SPENDING ETERNITY IN THE LAKE OF FIRE SOON ENOUGH - SO ENJOY IT BECAUSE YOU EARNED IT…

NOW I KNOW THE TRUTH HURTS BUT SWALLOW IT LIKE YOU DO EVERYTHING ELSE…

BELOW IS A OFFICIAL E-MAIL SENT 2 THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE TO REPORT ABUSE/WASTE/CRIME OR WHATEVER WORTHLESS ASS SHIT THEY DO THERE - BECAUSE FOR YEARS MEMBERS OF BOTH THE HOUSE & SENATE INTELLIGENCE & JUDICIARY COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THIS & DOING NOTHING—SO IN YOUR EYES THE PRESIDENT & HIS CREW OF R.I.C.O. ACT VIOLATORS CAN COMMITT TREASON & GET AWAY WITH IT - WITHOUT EVEN A PROSECUTION & A INVESTIGATION—THAT IS A DICTATORSHIP NOT A FREE SOCEITY AS AMERICA CLAIMS TO BE…

GET READY TO BE ENSLAVED BY YOUR DIABLO POSSESSED KIN
2 HITLER FOR IT IS COMING SOON TO AMERICA—SOONER THEN YOU THINK…

JUST SO YOU KNOW ON JUDGMENT DAY I WILL SEE OR SHOULD
I SAY SEND YOU TO HELL—YOU LOSER…

SMOKE SOME MORE CRACK & SUCK ON THE GLASS MONKEY - IT
IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS TO WHAT IS GOING ON & HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE CREATION OF THE UNITED NATIONS FROM THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS..

ALONG WITH THE “NATIONAL SECURITY ACT OF 1947”

GET EDUCATED YOU LOSER OR GET LOST - OH THAT IS RIGHT
YOU ARE A FIRM BUSH BELIEVER YOU ARE ALREADY LOST…

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By national-security-4-us, May 23, 2007 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment

BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED/INVESTIGATED & IMPRISONED 4 THE CRIMES HERE COMMITTED HERE ALONE - LET ALONE ALL OF THE OTHER STUFF…
If you have info. w/respect 2 waste,fraud,or abuse by the govt. or private business conduct that you want us 2 be aware of,please submit the info. in the space below. 
DEAR JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS,  5/10/2007 9:35 AM

GOOD MORNING,I HOPE THAT AFTER THIS COMMITTEE READS THESE TRUE FACTS AS ONLY I CAN TELL THE TRUTH BY BEING THE 911 CALLER WHICH RESULTED IN POSITIVE RESULTS ONLY 2 HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR ARISE ON MANY PEOPLES’ PART IN & THRU-OUT THIS BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS’ CABINET MEMBERS/EXECUTIVE
BRANCH GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS.. 
THE PRESIDENT HAS VIOLATED HIS OATH OF OFFICE AS WELL
AS VIOLATED THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PURSUANT 2
AMENDMENT 14 SECTION 4..THE PRESIDENT HAS ACTED UNETHICAL ALSO IN CONSPIRING W/OTHER CABINET MEMBERS AS 2 DISAVOW THAT THESE MATTERS EVER EVEN ACTUALLY OCCURRED..
HE HAS ALSO VIOLATED THE PUBLICS’ TRUST IN THESE MATTERS BY CRIMINALLY VIOLATING THE OATH OF OFFICE HE
SWORE 2 UPHOLD..SINCE THESE MATTERS WERE QUICKLY
SILENCED AS WELL AS SUPPRESSED-EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN INFORMING VARIOUS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN BOTH CHAMBERS IN BOTH THE JUDICIARY + THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES AS EARLY AS 6/2004 & ONWARD IN WHICH MORE SERIOUS CRIMES HAVE JUST HAPPENED.
FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED & AAFIA SIDDIQUI WERE INDEED TRULY CAPTURED AS A RESULT OF MY 911 CALL IN P.S.L.
CO,FLA. ON 5/29/2004 AT 6 PM..MY EYES POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED THEM-MY 911 CALL WAS ABOUT 15-20 MINUTES
LONG AS I FOLLOWED THEM UNTIL THE SHERIFF DEPT. ARRIVED 2 PULL THEM OVER..W/ALL OF THIS BEING TRUE PLEASE TELL ME HOW F.A.M. WAS ALLOWED 2 GET OUT OF U.S. CUSTODY 4 HIM 2 BE ABLE 2 SUDDENLY APPEAR IN SOMALIA IN 1/2007..HE WAS DUMPED THERE & TARGETED 4 ASSASSINATION YET HE GOT AWAY..
I WAS TOLD EARLY ON WHERE BOTH OF THEM WERE SENT..
ASHCROFT-POWELL & RIDGE I BELIEVE ALL RESIGNED OUT OF DISGUST 4 THIS ADMINISTRATIONS’ DECISION 2 DENY PAYING THE REWARDS..ARE WE NOW A NATION WHO HAS RESORTED 2 “CATCHING & RELEASING” - A MOST WANTED TERRORIST WHO WAS UNDER U.S. FEDERAL INDICTMENT BECAUSE I - JOE Q. PUBLIC WAS RESPONSIBLE 4 GETTING HIM CAPTURED & NOT THE FBI OR THE CIA OR WAS IT TRULY
NOT 2 PAY THE REWARDS OR STEAL THEM OR WAS IT SOMETHING WAY MORE SINISTER.. 
AS A NATION OF LAWS THESE SERIOUS CLAIMS YOU ARE READING ARE TRUE INDEED & DOES CONSTITUTE A NEED 4 A
THOROUGH INVESTIGATION & NOT JUST LISTENING 2 THE LIES EVERY-1 WAS ORDERED 2 SAY INCLUDING U.S.A.G. GONZALES.. 
HERE’S A 3 PAGE LETTER I SENT 2 O.P.R. WHO WAS DENIED
SECURITY CLEARANCES 4 THIS PURPOSE - I DO TRUTHFULLY & FIRMLY BELIEVE.PLEASE INVESTIGATE.
================================================  Dear Office of Professional Responsibility,
SENT CERTIFIED 9/13/05 - SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION  
On 5/27/04,from a newspaper I received the 7 photos from the 5/26/04 PRESS CONF. of U.S.A.G. J. ASHCROFT & FBI DIR.MUELLER..On 5/29/04,after 300+ miles driven
& 9 hrs later of being on the lookout & hunting these
people down..About 5:30-5:35 pm,I noticed a car tailgating me HAD 2 OF THE 7 PEOPLE IN QUESTION,after
POSITIVELY IDENTIFYING these 2 as the 2 in the photos
I forced them 2 pass me,2 acquire the vehicles’ license plate info. 
**(Please refer to 6/21/04 fax sent 2 Mr.Ashcroft as
well as President Bush.)   
I called a U.S.C.G. friend,who in turn VERIFIED the captures,as well as family in FED.GOVT.,as well as a Sheriff Dept.Capt.,I’ve assisted in the past,who is part of a J.T.T.F.- JOINT TERRORIST TASK FORCE TEAM.
My friend in the COAST GUARD told me “THAT FED.
OFFICIALS WILL TRY 2 COVER THIS UP,NO 911 CALL,I DID
NOTHING,2 AVOID PAYING THE REWARD OF $25 MILLION - HE
FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED-HAD ON HIS CAPTURE AT THE TIME”
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By PAJ, May 23, 2007 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment
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Certainly Bush or Cheney was the master-mind behind Gonzales’ criminal actions. Scheer’s account of the hospital incident is particularly chilling. However, I think he comes across as sounding glib when he tells his readers not to blame Gonzales. As Hannah Arendt argues in “A Reporter at Large: Eichmann in Jerusalem” (_The New Yorker_, February-March 1963), penal and military codes in many countries–during WWII as well as now–contain measures stipulating that “manifestly criminal orders must not be obeyed.” I realize that Scheer is not asking for Gonzales to be let off the hook–far from it. But, as head of the U.S. Department of Justice, he needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and not simply viewed as a cog in the wheel, what Eichmann used as his defense during his trial in Jerusalem in 1962. Unfortunately, despite the fact that I think there are grounds to impeach and remove Bush and Cheney from office, the political climate is not ripe for it. In the meantime, those of us who care about restoring rule of law in the U.S. must call for as many indictments and convictions as possible of Bush administration officials. And they must be convicted and sentenced after Bush leaves office (and a Democrat wins the presidential election in 2008) so he or a Republican successor won’t be able to pardon them.

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By rowman, May 23, 2007 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment

national-security-4-us:

Dude, you need some real help man. I am sincer. Your post is nonsensical. Find a doctor with whom you can talk these things out and get things organized in your head.

Best luck, I am pulling for you.

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By rowman, May 23, 2007 at 9:40 pm Link to this comment

You could not handle the task I suppose and took the easy road of reciting the same old rhetoric you have been programmed to spew. 
It is about me. And you and every American in this country. Untied we stand divided we fall.. ring a bell.
We were attacked, we responded. For right or wrong ,in your opinion, we ( I emphasize WE) are there. People hated us and wanted to kill us long before Bush and in case you missed it, this has very little to do with our politics.
He has managed this country well.
Get real and for heaven’s sake, stop playing armchair president. As if you really think you were capable of doing a better job.

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By national-security-4-us, May 23, 2007 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment

BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED & IMPRISONED 4 THIS PART 3

HERE IS HOW MY CIVIL RIGHTS-ARE-HAVE & CONTINUE TO BE
VIOLATED.

1ST AMENDMENT - PUNISHED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH WHILE
TRYING TO COLLECT THE REWARDS FOR MY ACTIONS (CALLS MADE) - VAST POTENTIAL FOR CORRUPTION..

4TH AMENDMENT - ILLEGALLY SEIZING PAPERWORK FROM MY CAR - FROM A FBI,DOJ OR A HIGHER COMMAND TO STOP ME ILLEGALLY-IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE(PAPERS)TO KNOW WHAT WAS
SAID & TO WHOM-LETTERS & FAXES WERE SENT TO THE FBI..

5TH AMENDMENT - SEIZED PROPERTY WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION-INTELLIGENCE & INFORMATION THAT HAS LED TO ON-GOING ARRESTS & INVESTIGATIONS..

6TH AMENDMENT - JUDGE DENIED MY RIGHT TO A JURY TRIAL
-MOST LIKELY FROM INTIMIDATION & OTHER TACTICS..

8TH AMENDMENT - AS I CONTINUE TRYING TO COLLECT
COMPENSATION FOR MY ACTIONS WHICH OUTSMARTS DOJ & FBI
-WHEN THEY LEARN OR HEAR WHAT I AM DOING - SOMEHOW MY
OUTRAGEOUS PROBATION CONDITIONS GET WORSE..

9TH AMENDMENT - A ARRAY OF RIGHTS DENIED - OBVIOUSLY BY COMMAND FROM A HIGHER AUTHORITY..

14TH AMENDMENT - RIGHTS ABRIDGED-DEPRIVED OF PROPERTY
-DENIED EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS BEING A NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN..

**WHISTLEBLOWER - IN A NON-CONVENTIONAL WAY-REVEALED TRUTH & POTENTIAL ABUSE-FRAUD & POSSIBLE THEFT OF THE
REWARD MONEY..

**I WROTE DEPUTY DIRECTOR BENJAMIN RENYA-U.S. MARSHAL
SERVICE FOR MY “PROTECTION RIGHTS” - GUARANTEED THRU THE U.S. STATE DEPTS’-“REWARD FOR JUSTICE PROGRAM” - (HE RESIGNED SOON THEREAFTER LIKELY CONFRONTING GONZALES & OR BUSH ON THESE MATTERS)

***PATRIOT ACT VIOLATIONS - ILLEGAL ROVING WIRETAP - THAT NO JUDGE WOULD APPROVE OF-UNLESS SAID IN A WAY TO CONVINCE THE JUDGE OTHERWISE TO APPROVE IT - (IN VIOLATION OF THE F.I.S.A.STATUE)- 3 PHONE NUMBERS ARE
CONSTANTLY MONITORED TO SEE WHO I CALL - LISTEN WHAT I SAY & THEN CALL THEM BACK & INTIMIDATE THOSE THAT I
CALL-INTERCEPTING MY MAIL-ALL MAJOR CRIMINAL FEDERAL OFFENSES..

(TRYING VEHEMENTLY TO STOP ME FROM ACQUIRING A CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY & WILL DO WHATEVER IS POSSIBLE - INCLUDING THE THREAT OF THE DREADED “NSL” LETTER IS ON THE WAY)

ONE CALL TO REP. MARKEY (MASS) OFFICE IN D.C. WAS NOT
CONNECTED DELIBERATELY - CALLED BACK ON ANOTHER LINE & DOCUMENTED THE EVENT WITH THE MEMBER OF HIS STAFF..

THE REPERCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN GLOBAL - THE WRONGS COMMITTED ON ME-SOMEONE WHO MORE THAN LIKELY STOPPED
OUR NEXT 911 - THRU 4 EXPENSIVE HURRICANES - 12/26 TSUNAMI & NOW THE UTTER DESTRUCTION OF A MAJOR CITY/
PORT…...END OF LETTER TO O.P.R.
==================================================
THEN AFTER HOLDING F.A.M. FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME - HE SUDDENLY SURFACES IN SOMALIA AFTER HE WAS DUMPED THERE & WAS TARGETED FOR DEATH WITH THE 1/2007
AIRSTRIKES-WHICH WAS REPORTED MISSED & HE GETS AWAY..
WAS THIS DELIBERATE & INTENTIONAL - SO MORE SERIOUS CRIMES WERE COMMITTED TO COVER-UP THE INITIAL CRIMES
OF HIS INITIAL CAPTURE -WHAT A COUNTRY WE HAVE HERE..
SO NOW AMERICA HAS RESORTED TO “CATCH & RELEASE” IN REGARDS TO MOST WANTED TERRORISTS WHO BY THE WAY WAS UNDER A U.S. FEDERAL INDICTMENT THAT WERE NOT SOLELY CAPTURED DUE SPECIFICALLY TO THE ALPHABET AGENCIES..

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By Steven Mcarty, May 23, 2007 at 6:49 pm Link to this comment
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Your America is gone. There are voices out there that rail against the wind but the battle is lost. This admin. is smarter than the people, one world order is here. This board and many others like it are like the barking dog nipping at the ankle of the last camel of caravan. I don’t celebrate this, I mourn for the country I love, now gone. Rowan may be better off than he was 8 yrs. ago but he is a minority. His chest is out, my head hangs low with a tear. Worse than Watergate? Yes because it succeeded.

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By Fools on the Hill, May 23, 2007 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment
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Congress could get the WH phone log.  They certainly have the time (within minutes) and the phone number.

Recall during Clinton’s impeachment, they were able to determine he was on the phone while getting a BJ.

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By ZeusForGod, May 23, 2007 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment
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Look at Bush!
What could he be so worried about?

Maybe he can’t find his heart which figures ‘cause he doesn’t have one.

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By Greg Bacon, May 23, 2007 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

Now, let’s not be too hard on people like Rowman.

El Busho has turned this country into a police state, terrorizing citizens to the point that they fear the next knock on the door may be the State Security Police coming to take them away, but look at the positive side:

Since people are either afraid to go places or can’t afford to due to Bush’s policies driving up the price of gasoline to record levels, just think of what we can do with that free time!!

We can iron our “Brownshirts” or polish our jack boots.  And practicing the state mandated dance, the “Goosestep” is always a fine way to spend time while worried about the future.

greg bacon
ava, mo

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By John F. Butterfield, May 23, 2007 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment

It’s too bad Peter Lorre is dead. I think he would have made a great Gonzales in a movie.

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By carlito paquito, May 23, 2007 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment
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Because the human condition, Alberto Gonzalez will always be Alberto Gonzalez, that short, like me, portly, like me, beaner guy, unlike me. Alberto Gonzalez, much as he would like to believe, will never, ever be considered anything more, much less to his informed Mexican community. His peeps, at any given opportunity, should hold their noses. Take comfort, the guy in the sky, has both his nose and eyes closed from dissapointment.

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By luna, May 23, 2007 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment
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Have any of you looked at the declaration of Independence lately??????
Impeachment is NOT the only way to go.
look it up…..........

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By mike, May 23, 2007 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment
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rowman

The flip side… Imagine Gore won.. We would all be complaining about the socialist country we became (Universal Health Care, Kioto etc).

First It not like I trust gore any farther than I can throw him and yes being american we will b*tch no matter who is in power.  At least we would not be complaining about 4,000 soliders dead another 25,000 wounded at least 100,000 iraqs dead and our standing in the world reduced to one tiny step above the people we are fighting.

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By Leefeller, May 23, 2007 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

#71994 by rowman on 5/23 at 9:48  

Bush has done a great job becoming the war presdient through lies.  If you think that he is doing a good job so be it.  Rush Limbaugh or Fox New would agree with you. 

Blood for Oil is not the work of a good president, only a greedy compassionless one. I do not hate Bush, just what he has done.  Could you tell me something that Bush has done that is good? 

Loving your county is one thing, being blind to reality is another.

P.S. I do not feel the Repbulicans or the Democarats provide much of a difference in choice they both are in,  the pockets of Big Money.  Only three candidtates tell the truth about Iraq, and they are all on the bottom of their packs.

If your post is sincere,  you have my hope that you would help yourself by becoming more aware. Then your opinion would be informed, then if we still disagreed we could both still love our country together with knowledge. .

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By Roberto, May 23, 2007 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment
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Rowman;
You and your kind (Bushies) are the most short-sighted, stupid and selfish people in America. Short-sighted b/c you actually think that b/c we haven’t been attacked in American soil again its b/c of White House policies which in reality have made the entire world a much more dangerous place and made the U.S. a repudiated country not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed, maimed, tortured—Americans included. Stupid b/c you cannot state any facts or even sensible reasons why you believe the moronic things you claim to be true (“he has done a fine job as far as presidents go.” What!). You do not back up your claim b/c that reality doesn’t exist. And selfish b/c while the entire country is in turmoil (energy, education, environment, exhausted military, national deficit, political scandals, U.S. standing in the world, and much more) you probably made some money and those pesky gays are being kept in check. Selfish b/c not for a second have you imagined yourself living in Iraq.
You sicken me.

P.S.
Tell me that you’re a rapture believing evangelical; I can clear you from the stupid charge and put you as a wishful-thinking-ignorant-ostrich. Rowman, why don’t you do as a good rowman and ask no questions just row that ship of ignorance like a good bushie slave and row your boatful of malice towards the world into a whirlpool to the cold and dark bottom of the ocean. Good riddance

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By SadButTrue, May 23, 2007 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment
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OK, here’s something we don’t know, and the way to find it out. Comey testified that the call to Ashcroft’s wife came from the White House, but isn’t sure if it was from the President himself. On being asked the question directly, the President, dodged, bobbed, weaved, deked, then changed the subject. How do we find the truth?

SUBPOENA MRS. ASHCROFT!!!

You can be sure that neither Gonzales nor Card will ‘recall’ this incident if compelled to appear before the Senate. Mrs. Ashcroft, we are ready for your testimony.

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By peedeecee, May 23, 2007 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment

From the article: “When asked if he had an idea where the call [to Mrs. Ashcroft] came from, Comey testified: ‘I have some recollection that the call was from the president himself, but I don’t know that for sure. It came from the White House.’”

Wouldn’t it be a good idea to ask Mrs. Ashcroft who it was who phoned her that night? Does anyone know if she has testified in this matter?

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By Really FedUp with "Rowman" and the like, May 23, 2007 at 11:03 am Link to this comment
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“I am much better off than I was 8 yrs ago…”

IT’S ALL ABOUT YOU ISN’T IT ?

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By rowman, May 23, 2007 at 10:48 am Link to this comment

I didnt vote for Bush first term but I wish I had. Many of my fellow dems have proven themselves to be blinded by party affiliation and continue to show a hatred towards this man.

I think he has done a fine job as far as presidents go. He had to deal with some very difficult issues and did them well. We have not seen an attack on our land and that can be attributed to his policies. If you took off your blinders, I am sure you could conceed that he has done good things. I am much better off than I was 8 yrs ago…

The flip side… Imagine Gore won.. We would all be complaining about the socialist country we became (Universal Health Care, Kioto etc).

If you are going to flame me, I only ask that you not spew the same old rhetoric, conspiracy theories and other related nonsense. I love my country, I am an American but some of you really worry me.

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By Linda Sutton, May 23, 2007 at 10:32 am Link to this comment

IMPEACHMENT can’t wait. This is just another example why.

In the last election, the voters clearly spoke. And the opinion polls say that they CONTINUE to speak and increasingly disapprove of the direction Bush has taken the country. His gang of thugs cannot be allowed to prevail until the end of his term in office.

Across the country, the movement to IMPEACH has only gained steam. In California and now Massachusetts the State Democratic Parties have endorsed IMPEACHMENT. Many towns and cities have passed their own resolutions.

Yet, the Democratic leadership in Congress continues to say “Impeachment is off the table.” And, only Congressman Kucinich has stood up and authored an Impeach Cheney bill.

Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid, IMPEACHMENT MUST BE PUT ON THE TABLE.

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By Dale Headley, May 23, 2007 at 10:19 am Link to this comment
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Robert Scheer is not telling us anything we don’t already know, especially that Alberto Gonzales is the quintessential “toady”.  Watergate?  It isn’t even in the same ballpark with the outrages of this administration.  As John Dean said, “No one died in Watergate!”

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By Hammo, May 23, 2007 at 9:37 am Link to this comment

Scheer’s article does a good job of laying out the details of the behavior involved in this situation.

In many ways, Gonzales and his associates are demonstrating behavior that many (but not all) in the Bush administration have shown.

In simple terms, they lack honor.

This concept, though not always taught in school, is something that many elements of our society (such as the military) consider to be very important.

Overall, it seems fair to say that the Bush-Cheney administration, in very serious ways, lacks honor. This is an essential part of the problems we face.

For more on this, the article below may be of interest:

“‘Strength, Honor, Compassion’ are words to live by in these times”

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3351

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By RAE, May 23, 2007 at 9:19 am Link to this comment

Please, someone, explain why, in America, as a John Doe, you can get caught with a nickel bag of pot and go “straight to jail” while as a fraudulently elected politician, you can spew lies and misinformation daily to the American people, scoff at the Constitution and other laws, rip off the treasury for hundreds of thousands of UNEARNED dollars, and be heralded as a LEADER & VIP!

Explain how, in America, you can be just SUSPECTED of associating with “terrorists,” or worse, have secret “evidence” fabricated against you and you’ll be locked away, without access to a lawyer or anyone else for an indeterminant amount of time, without a trial, but if you “eagerly abett White House crime, and lie to the Senate” you’ll walk scot free and be paid a fortune for your time and trouble.

And this is supposed to be the Land Of The Free and Home Of The Brave! It clearly is NEITHER. There’s something I’m missing. I just don’t understand why the American people condone the corrupt actions of their leadership. Why are these miscreants not charged with the crimes outlined in this “Worse Than Watergate” article?

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By Louise, May 23, 2007 at 8:55 am Link to this comment
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I disagree with #71924 and #71920 on this one. This is a VERY RELEVANT article, and I hope it will be passed on to EVERYONE, that EVERYONE out there knows!

The sad and simple truth is, while most Americans are angry and fed up, the vast majority still do not understand the full weight of the criminality that governs the current administration.

They know something is wrong, but given most are locked into the evening news, they don’t quite understand HOW wrong things are!

Have you watched the evening news lately? A story like this is reported in such a way as to sound like oh geez, those dems are trying to dictate to the White House again.

Most people don’t have the time to hunt through all the information out there to get a grasp on the depth of the offenses. And wouldn’t know where to look if they did!

And of course it doesn’t help any that the Congress seems to have been neutered! Just one more reason why we need people like Robert Scheer to help US get the message through!

Gonzales is not gone already!
All bets aside, it hasn’t happened.
Possibly never will.

Were Bush to fire Gonzales, it would be like admitting that HE had done something wrong! 

When’s the last time Bush admitted HE’d done anything wrong?

That look on Bush’s face is probably intense scrutiny. Studying the audience ... trying to remember which side to put his hand on ... “Yep, I think I’ve got it right.”

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