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How Low Can Gonzales Go?

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Posted on May 18, 2007

By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON—It just gets worse and worse. We already knew that Alberto Gonzales—who, unbelievably, remains our attorney general—was willing to construe the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions however George W. Bush and Dick Cheney wanted. We knew he was willing to politicize the Justice Department, if that was what the White House wanted. Now we learn that Gonzales also was willing to accost a seriously ill man in his hospital room to get his signature on a dodgy justification for unprecedented domestic surveillance.

    The man Gonzales harried on his sickbed was his predecessor as attorney general, John Ashcroft. The episode—recounted this week in congressional testimony by Ashcroft’s former deputy, James Comey—sounds like something from Hollywood, not Washington. It’s hard not to think of that scene in “The Godfather” when Don Corleone is left alone in his hospital bed, vulnerable to his enemies, and Michael has to save him.

    It was the night of March 10, 2004. Several days earlier, Ashcroft had been stricken with a severe case of pancreatitis and was rushed to George Washington University Hospital, where his gallbladder was removed and he was placed in intensive care. Ashcroft’s wife had banned all visitors and phone calls.

    Ashcroft’s illness came amid a fight between the White House and the Justice Department over the program of warrantless domestic electronic surveillance that Bush had authorized following the 9/11 attacks. Justice had reviewed the program and expressed doubts about its legality.

    Comey, serving as acting attorney general because of Ashcroft’s illness, refused to sign off on a reauthorization of the program until changes were made. The night before the current authorization was to expire, Comey said, he was being driven home when he got a call from Ashcroft’s chief of staff, who had just heard from Ashcroft’s wife that Gonzales, then serving as White House counsel, and White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card were on their way to the hospital. They wanted to get the ailing Ashcroft to overrule Comey and sign the reauthorization.

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    Comey ordered his driver to turn around and managed to get to the hospital first. Rather than wait for the elevator, he ran up the stairs. “And Mrs. Ashcroft was standing by the hospital bed,” he testified, “Mr. Ashcroft was lying down in the bed, the room was darkened. And I immediately began speaking to him, trying to orient him as to time and place, and try to see if he could focus on what was happening, and it wasn’t clear to me that he could. He seemed pretty bad off.”

    Gonzales was carrying an envelope when he and Card arrived. Gonzales told Ashcroft they were there “to seek his approval for a matter,” Comey recalled. Ashcroft refused to sign anything, told them why, and said that, in any event, Comey was the acting attorney general with the full powers of the office.

    “I was very upset,” Comey said. “I was angry. I thought I just witnessed an effort to take advantage of a very sick man.”

    Now let’s fast-forward a couple of years—to February 2006, after the secret surveillance program had become public. Gonzales, testifying before Congress, said there had been no serious disagreement within the administration about the legality of conducting such widespread electronic eavesdropping without seeking court warrants.

    In fact, there was nearly an insurrection. Comey and other high-ranking Justice Department officials threatened to resign if the White House continued the surveillance program as it then was constituted. “Mr. Ashcroft’s chief of staff asked me something that meant a great deal to him,” Comey testified, “and that is that I not resign until Mr. Ashcroft was well enough to resign with me.” Ultimately, Bush and Cheney agreed to modifications that addressed Justice’s concerns.

    Gonzales’ testimony in 2006 was that officials expressed no reservations that “dealt with the program that we are talking about today.” Presumably he was being extraordinarily careful with his words—“the program that we are talking about today” had already been modified, two years earlier, to avoid what threatened to become a Wednesday Night Massacre. Before those changes, the attorney general neglected to tell Congress, the program had caused a legal riot.

    The image I can’t get out of my head is of Alberto Gonzales carrying a document for Ashcroft’s signature into the man’s hospital room, attempting a sneaky end-run around the deputy whom Ashcroft left in charge of the department, knowing full well that Ashcroft was seriously ill and almost certainly medicated. What did he intend to do, guide the man’s hand?

    This is the attorney general of the United States, ladies and gentlemen. Heaven help us.   

    Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at symbol)washpost.com.   

    © 2007, Washington Post Writers Group


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By Bukko in Australia, May 24, 2007 at 2:29 am Link to this comment

No bush fires now, mate—it’s almost winter in the Southern Hemisphere. So odd to have the cold season in July…

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By Rick Ladd, May 23, 2007 at 10:24 pm Link to this comment

Bukko:

I’m pretty sure you mixed me up with Mike. Thanks for the sentiments. We’re down in Simi Valley, almost pissing distance from Saint Ronald’s rotting corpse.

I hope you are paranoid; I tend to be so myself. I don’t see a terribly bright future for us the way things are going, but I just can’t see us picking up and leaving. I’ve got too damn many roots here.

I, too, marched in the late 60s and early 70s. Worked with the Committee to free Angela Davis, Vietnamese students in the U.S., even did security for an exiled Chilean group named Quilapayun and Jane Fonda’s Indochina Peace Campaign swing thru Southern California in the ‘72 elections.

Anyway, it’s probably too late for us. This is where I want to live out the rest of my life; surrounded by friends and family. I’m hopeful the American dream isn’t entirely the beautiful lie I sometimes believe it is, and the people of this country will find a way to reverse the direction we’re sliding in.

I believed in revolution back then. Obviously, the time wasn’t right. If it comes to it, I’m sure it will be others besides myself now who make it happen. I’m as ready as I think I can be. I know I don’t want to see this continue, neither for our sake nor the world’s.

Take care. Hope your brush fires are no worse than ours.

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By Bukko in Australia, May 23, 2007 at 9:53 pm Link to this comment

Mike, I most certainly did cut and run. My wife and I marched against the war, voted in every election since the 60s, contributed to candidates, were active in political groups, etc. It didn’t seem to be doing any good. We felt morally wrong to continue to pay taxes that supported war, especially a potential nuclear attack against Iran.

Lucky for us, I’m a registered nurse, so I could get a work visa to enter Oz. And we had an expensive house on top of a hill in San Francisco that we could sell for an outrageous profit. We foresaw the collapse of the real estate bubble, and we also fear a collapse of the U.S. dollar (and the entire American economy, but we’re paranoid. I hope we’re wrong.)

Good luck with what’s to come in the U.S. It’s not easy to pick up everything you own and change countries, especially when you’re middle-aged bourgeois wankers like us. Enjoy life while it’s good, be thankful for what you have before Bush mucks it up, and prepare for the worst, just in case.

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By Rick Ladd, May 23, 2007 at 8:32 pm Link to this comment

Bukko - Sometimes I wish to hell I could get out of here now. The irony for me is my wife and I recently adopted two girls from China and brought them back to this country (USA). I’m beside myself with grief over what I may have done to them.

Truth to tell, though I’ll be 60 in less than two weeks, and I don’t really look forward to having to fight for the freedoms I was raised to believe were my birthright, I could no more leave than I could sprout wings and ascend to the heavens.

My roots are here and I don’t think I could live with myself were I to cut and run (and I’m not implying in any way that you did. You’ve offered no evidence of it, and I don’t think it’s so. People put down new roots all the time, for all kinds of reasons). I just feel like that’s what I’d be doing when this country so badly needs people who can think and are willing to act.

Also, my family is here, my career is here, and I have a long history of fighting oppression and injustice. OTOH, if my kids thought returning to live in China might be good, I’m not certain I would argue with them. I could retire and my pension, 401K, and marketable skills (despite my age) would probably give us a fairly good life there.

The two times we were in China I detected no real difference in the daily lives of normal people . . . at least not in the city and, despite their problems, I don’t think the PRC is nearly as predatory as the U.S.

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By Bukko in Australia, May 23, 2007 at 7:56 pm Link to this comment

Mike, these days it’s hard to tell who’s sarcastic and who’s just stupid. After checking out your blog, I figured it was the former. Good to see a jarhead who’s on the left!

Like you, I can’t believe that Gonzales and so many others in the Bush Crime Family have gotten away with all they have. I wish God would help the United States, but since I don’t believe in one, I think the U.S. has to help itself, and the mass of the people seem helpless (and clueless.) I’m afraid it’s going to have to get a lot worse before anything changes. A lot, lot worse.

Like worse as with the martial law powers that Bush allocated to himself with the May 9 “Continuity of Government” decree. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I’m glad I buggered off so I could see it from a distance.

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By ardee, May 23, 2007 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment

re:#72049
Impeachment does indeed sound like a solution to a major problem. However there is another major problem that makes impeachment less than likely,namely; the absolute cowardice or complicity of the supposed opposition party…..

regarding the exchange between Ga and JNagarya

Reno has never tried to avoid responsibility for that which ocurred in Waco, though she did not call for the army force which was a violation of the Posse Comitatus rule, and she did not formulate the plan at all, being in office about six weeks when that horrific act ocurred.

McVeigh was inspired more by the book, The Turner Diaries, than by any other single event. In that book an act similar to what McVeigh, Nichols and who knows who else perpetrated led to a revolution by white christians who took over the government, Gaia help us all….....

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By KIM HERSHNER, May 23, 2007 at 2:01 pm Link to this comment
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I CANNOT BELIEVE, WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE, COMMING TO LIGHT, THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN OFFICE…RIGHT TO THE TOP….IMPEACH THEM ALL!!!!!

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By Ga, May 21, 2007 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Comment #71397 by JNagarya:

“LetÂ’s get some underlying facts straight before we determine that the govÂ’t should take responsibility for the events at Waco.”

Whoa, slow down. Where did you dig that stuff up? It reads like you are bringing up “facts” from some other conversation.

In general principle, the person in charge is the person at the top. And what happens on “one’s watch” is what happens on one’s watch—even if orders were disobeyed or guidelines not followed or even if the person at the top gave control to an underling and then went on vacation.

Any fabrication of jogging is beside the point.

Correct, Reno probably did not say to the agents, “Be real stupid and climb the wall and try to enter through a window.” So, yeah, I hear you. But still…

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By JNagarya, May 21, 2007 at 5:44 am Link to this comment

“#71327 by KYJurisDoctor on 5/21 at 12:05 am
(1 comments total)

“Maybe, just maybe there is a voice of reason out there that can convince Gonzales to be “nudged” out to a new post!

“http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/05/get-ready-for-g reat-compromise-on.html#links”

“Christ-centered”?  Your link has nothing whatever to do with Gonzales, and what should be done by or about him.  It is about your opposition to the current immigration bill because not sufficiently anti-immigrant.  Not sufficiently blaming of the victim.

Christians are required to obey a set of rules—not merely tell others those others must obey them.  One of those rules is: “Thou shalt not lie.”

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By JNagarya, May 21, 2007 at 5:37 am Link to this comment

“#71342 by Ga on 5/21 at 3:06 am
(12 comments total)

“Comment #71321 by ardee:

““What was forgotten (or rather ignored) was that Reno was new to the office and followed the plan of the FBI agent in charge, so the blame rather rightly belonged elsewhere.””

“Well, those in charge should be the ones to take responsiblity for what happens in their office, department, company, command, etc.”

Let’s get some underlying facts straight before we determine that the gov’t should take responsibility for the events at Waco.

Foremost is the fabrication, “Koresh jogged outside the compound every day, so he could have been arrested without ‘invading’ the compound.”

The warrant was not for arrest of Koresh; it was for search of the compound in relation to reports of multiple statutory rapes by Koresh.  That is why the effort to serve the warrant was at the compound.

The response to that was the murder of several Federal law enforcement agents.

None of those facts can be laid at Reno’s feet.

Thereafter, the “seige” lasted 50-plus days because Koresh held the children hostage, between himself and law enforcement.

And it is also the fact that Koresh, or one of his group, yelled, “Spread the fluids!” just before the compound began to burn, in three separate locations simultaneously.

None of that can be laid at the feet of Reno.

Out of that, based upon ignorant’s belief in the NRA’s Second Amendment lie, McVeigh and Nichols blew up the Murrah Federal building as revenge for Waco, and based upon the falsehood that the Assault Weapons Ban violated the Second Amendment.

None of that can be laid at the feet of Reno.

“This is exactly what is wrong with the current Whitehouse Administration: no one in any high-level position ever takes any resposibility, ever.”

True—but a wholly separate issue.

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By JNagarya, May 21, 2007 at 5:27 am Link to this comment

“#71283 by Ernest Canning on 5/20 at 1:18 pm
(195 comments total)

“I keep hearing the media tout the Senate DemocratÂ’s non-binding vote of no confidence in Gonzales, asserting that only the President can force his removal.  Nonsense!  Impeachment applies to all civil officers of the U.S., including the Attorney General.”

That’s true.  But see how the media deals with the no-confidence vote before we can get an idea what they’ll say about the next step thereafter.
And keep in mind that this is uncharted territory, so the Democrats in Congress, in addition to having to watch their backs over several other in-constant-flux issues, have to feel their way in the dark, and be careful the nature of the map which sets precedent for the future.

Has there ever been a time when the Executive, the DOJ, and much of the Judiciary, were undermined and made unreliable, so the means and locus of effort to restore the rule of law was elsewhere, and essentially isolated?  Congress has an enormous job to do in the face of an unprecedented amount of corruption, and virtually all of that anti-American. 

John Dean said, it seems ages ago, that this gang’s notion of government is foreign to our system.  Add to that the secrecy hiding it has been essentially impenetrable until the change in Congress.  And we are nowhere near out of the woods yet.

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By Tom Doff, May 21, 2007 at 4:00 am Link to this comment
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‘How Low Can Gonzales Go?’

Well, let’s see, there is one final, incremental step, one tiny further drop into the depths he has not yet reached.

He could go as low as Bush.

Of course, that would define him as a totally demented, irrational, megalomaniacal lunatic, which might, finally, disqualify him to be Attorney General.

And, ‘god’ knows, he would hate to give up the office which symbolizes how far he has sunk below his heritage at birth, when he was just a fat, gurgling, diaper-clad wetback tot, with the potential of an honorable life.

I’ll bet his mama wishes he had become an honorable drug dealer.

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By Ga, May 20, 2007 at 8:36 pm Link to this comment

Comment #71321 by ardee:

“What was forgotten (or rather ignored) was that Reno was new to the office and followed the plan of the FBI agent in charge, so the blame rather rightly belonged elsewhere.”

Well, those in charge should be the ones to take responsiblity for what happens in their office, department, company, command, etc.

This is exactly what is wrong with the current Whitehouse Administration: no one in any high-level position ever takes any resposibility, ever.

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By Mike, May 20, 2007 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment
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All I know is I want the kind of job security
that comes with being loyal to this president.

No matter how incompetent, I’d've been guaranteed
eight solid years (well maybe six in the case of
Donald Rumsfeld) of employment and a golden
parachute.

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By KYJurisDoctor, May 20, 2007 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment

Maybe, just maybe there is a voice of reason out there that can convince Gonzales to be “nudged” out to a new post!

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/05/get-ready-for-great-compromise-on.html#links

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By ardee, May 20, 2007 at 4:48 pm Link to this comment

#71135 by Mike Mid-City on 5/19 at 6:18 pm
(31 comments total)

“IÂ’m a retired Correctional Officer and in my service have had blows to the head, so I forget things.  What was the rap on Janet Reno?”

Some things are better forgotten. The smearing of Janet Reno was over her supposed leadership during the David Koresh/Branch Davidian/Waco disaster. That was part and parcel of the general smearing of all things Clinton. What was forgotten(or rather ignored)was that Reno was new to the office and followed the plan of the FBI agent in charge, so the blame rather rightly belonged elsewhere.

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By Nitro, May 20, 2007 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment

How low can Gonzales go ? How low will any of them go now a days. Gonzales is just a lost sheep, as so many Americans today, that will follow the Shepherd (if you want to call him that) into Hell’s Firey Gates if we let them.

The americanpeople have allowed all these attrocities to happen over the last 50 years, and at best, usually just bitch about it. At work, play, the coffee shop. I thought we already had enough Impeachment Proceedings started, and yet I look to the headlines again, only to see,... Business as usual !

As long as theamericanpeople allow their representatives get away with such crimes and moral behavior, things will just get worse. I think it’s safe to say, even if we had Impeachment Proceedings in process, Bushit would only label those as “terrorists & Evil Doers,” and proclaim Marshall Law or declare War on theamericanpeople.

It seems to me, that anyone that needs to SPY on it’s people or fellow countrymen and need all the protection they require, only means they must really be screwing someone over pretty bad. Theamericanpeople? Surely not…

How much longer will WE, let this go on ? How much lower will WE allow our representatives to take us into their pit of shit? No wonder everyone around the world hates the U.S. anymore. Sounds like theamericanpeople need to go to Washington and have a serious “Barn Cleaning !”

To a Better Day

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By cann4ing, May 20, 2007 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment

I keep hearing the media tout the Senate Democrat’s non-binding vote of no confidence in Gonzales, asserting that only the President can force his removal.  Nonsense!  Impeachment applies to all civil officers of the U.S., including the Attorney General.

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By Forkboy, May 20, 2007 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

Regarding #71214 by JNagarya on 5/20 at 5:16 am

(a reply to my original post)

Please don’t get me wrong JNagarya, I’m quite happy that Comey has come forward.  And no doubt you are correct in that there would have been no point in coming forward during the tenure of the Republican controlled Congress.  That said, I believe there must have been other opportunities and ways for him to have brought this to the public limelight.

While I applaud his current strength I can’t help but feel there may some some sort of self-serving reason for this recent bout of honest disclosure.  Perhaps he sees the ship sinking and doesn’t want to drown with all the other rats?

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By JNagarya, May 20, 2007 at 5:16 am Link to this comment

“#70869 by Forkboy on 5/18 at 6:02 pm
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“. . . . I havenÂ’t yet seen anyone asking the more pertinent question:  why has this only come to light three-years and two-months later?  Why disclose this information now?  Please.  If Comey really felt so irritated that he was willing to quit, why does he tell us this information now?  Is it simply because the White House backed down?  Seems to me that this incident should have convinced both Comey and Ashcroft that the White House was seriously unethical.  Alas, allegiance to the Party (Republican) was more important than allegiance to the country, itÂ’s populace the constitution.”

Perhaps Comey knew he’d be smeared, and by that means the story would have been buried.  What other option did he have?  Testify to a Republican-controlled Congress that wouldn’t have allowed him to testify?

The fact is that he’s telling about it publicly, and it matters.  Same goes for Iglesias: it was partly because he was smeared, and partly because the Democrats began looking into the issue, that he came forward.  He’s an evangelical Christian.  But he also has a genuine integrity.  And it seems the thing that iritated him most was their accusation that he was away from the office too much: he does 40-42 days per year navy reserve duty; that’s why he was away from the office.  And he’s smeared on those grounds by a gang of chickenhawks!?

We have such as Iglesias and McKay, and Comey, to thank for telling us about the inside.  And you’ll note that no one has dared smear Comey: they know it’s true, and they want it to die as quickly as possible.

Comey calls to mind John Dean.

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By JNagarya, May 20, 2007 at 5:07 am Link to this comment

“#70901 by THOMAS BILLIS on 5/18 at 1:15 pm
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“What a mess and we as Americans have only ourselves to blame.If you elect Ronald Mcdonald President of the United States whom did you expect him to nominate to key roles.

“What is even more depressing is that for six years the Republican majorities in Congress in not performing oversite have allowed what might have been nipped in the bud problems to become national disgraces.Are we not all Americans.In the Republican party loyalty to the party trumps loyalty to the country.

“I am a liberal and I understand that the other side wins and they run the country but I never in my 60 years of living through Eisenhower,Nixon,Ford,Reagan and Geroge H.W. Bush have I seen the other side so incompetent and a Congress allowing this incompetency to harm my country.”

There are times I cannot keep myself from weeping.  US involvement in Viet Nam—Watergate.  A chunk of my generation was thrown away as cannon fodder by the prior generation.

Once in a lifetime isn’t enough!?  I set out to see to it that those would be the last instances of such.

Now look: worse: those of _my_ generation who supported that involvement, but refused to put their asses where their mouths were, are repeating it, doing it to the next generation.

Sure, I’m still on the opposite side of the issue than they—Bushit, Dick “Five Deferments” Cheney.  But they are of _my_ generation, doing it to the next generation, which didn’t ask for it any more than mine did.

Bastards!

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By Bukko in Australia, May 20, 2007 at 4:36 am Link to this comment

Mike, you being faceitious re: Reno? Some people blame her for the Branch Davidian BBQ at Waco, but it was David Koresh’s mob that poured the petrol. And shooting mom and child at Ruby Ridge was not a nice thing to do, but you know how trigger-happy lawmen can be.

To her credit, Reno didn’t try to stonewall investigations into Democratic officials like Dan Rostenkowski, Henry Cisneros and that fellow who was fooling around with the intern… What was his name?

I had a bit of experience with Reno’s honesty in my previous career (and her previous, too.) I was a newspaper reporter in a small town called Arcadia, Florida, working on stories about this guy named James Richardson who had been imprisoned (and almost executed) for poisoning his seven children to death. New evidence came out pointing to the possibility that he was framed. (Turned out the childrens’ babysitter, who actually dished out the beans & rice & pesticide while Richardson was at work, was the culprit.) Reno was Dade County State Attorney then, and she headed up a re-investigation of the case which got to the truth of the matter—which was that a Democratic sheriff and a crappy Dem prosecutor cooked up a bogus trial just to get a quick conviction in a controversial case. I was impressed by Reno’s sense of justice. She even went out of her way to meet me at the Miami airport to leak me a copy of the report that nailed the crooked sheriff, although generally she was a close-mouthed beyotch to talk to.

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By Verne Arnold, May 20, 2007 at 4:04 am Link to this comment

Re #71167 by Rick Ladd on 5/19 at 9:27 pm

Is that pronounced with an M or an N?  Very good!  I liked it.

Obviously there is no low, too low, for them to go.  We are plumbing the shallows of the humanity of this administration.  Deeply superficial rules this reign.

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By Rick Ladd, May 19, 2007 at 9:27 pm Link to this comment

How unfortunate we have allowed our country to fall into the hands of a gang of sociopaths. I’m not a psychologist (though I have slept in a Holiday Inn), but they sure seem to exhibit many of the signs of this pathology. Wikipedia provides the perfect mnemonic for the symptoms enumerated in the DSM-IV:

C - cannot follow law
O - obligations ignored
R - remorselessness
R - recklessness
U - underhandedness
P - planning deficit
T - temper

I rest my case.

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By DennisD, May 19, 2007 at 12:37 pm Link to this comment
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“How Low Can Gonzales Go” - if there’s one thing the Bu$h adminstration has taught us - there is no bottom. It’s the black hole of accountability and responsibility.

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By JNagarya, May 19, 2007 at 8:55 am Link to this comment

“#70966 by mark jensen on 5/18 at 7:04 pm
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“newt gingrich comes to mind.  his going into his wifes hospital room just after sheÂ’s come out of surgery for cancer.  there he is with the divorce papers for her to sign. just taking care of business, his business, how inconvenient for someone to make him come all the way down to the hospital.  i believe there are many lows below the lows we know these people would surprise us how far down they can go.  ashcroft surprises me, good for him, well done”

Just shows to go that the Republicans care, and care about health care, so were checking directly, first-hand, on its quality, by themselves interviewing the patients during their treatments.

Never mind.

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By G. Anderson, May 18, 2007 at 9:07 pm Link to this comment
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As I read this, I couldn’t help thinking that there have been many more incididents like this, and that in the future there will be many more revelations like this one.

As the Bush admistration continues it’s disintegration, I believe that will be more shocking news, about Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheny.

I have always felt that Bush adminsitration’s intent all along was to create for itself a political dictatorship, in the United States. I believe that was the underlying reason for all of Mr. Bush’s actions, against our freedoms, and the reason why he seemed to believe that the only way to win the so-called terror war, was to undue the bill of rights.

That Mr. Ashcroft, and Mr. Comey acted to preserve our freedoms should be praised by all Americans, no matter what their position on other issues. It took real courage and patriotism, to do what they did. 

Rumours on the internet also indicate that a high ranking military officers refusal to move a third carrier group into the Persian gulf blocked, what would have surely been disaster for America.

Hopefully, more loyal Americans will come forward now, with the truth about the Bush adminsitrations real agenda.

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By JNagarya, May 18, 2007 at 7:31 pm Link to this comment

“AshcroftÂ’s illness came amid a fight between the White House and the Justice Department over the program of warrantless domestic electronic surveillance that Bush had authorized following the 9/11 attacks.”

Except that we don’t know that.  The unquestioned assumption—the rush to conclusion—is that the program in question was that in the NSA.  But wait a minute:

Why was FBI Director Mueller in the thick of it, and why did he threaten to resign, over a program which wasn’t in the FBI? 

Reread the February, 2006 exchange between Schumer, who is expressly asking Gonzales about the NSA program, and the reports of “disagreements” about that program.  Gonzales denies there were disagrements about that program—and adds that there was disagreement about another program, which he refuses to identify.

Perhaps in that instance Gonzales was actually telling the truth: we now know from Comey that there was disagreement about a program—which he too refused to identify.  But we also know, now, that in the thick of it, and among those who threatened to resign, was FBI Director Meuller.  Why would the Director of the FBI threaten to resign over a program not in the FBI?

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By mark jensen, May 18, 2007 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment
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newt gingrich comes to mind.  his going into his wifes hospital room just after she’s come out of surgery for cancer.  there he is with the divorce papers for her to sign. just taking care of business, his business, how inconvenient for someone to make him come all the way down to the hospital.  i believe there are many lows below the lows we know these people would surprise us how far down they can go.  ashcroft surprises me, good for him, well done.

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By jbart, May 18, 2007 at 5:32 pm Link to this comment
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I’ve contributed comments whenever I felt compelled to voice my opinion. This is one of those times. All we see are symtoms. We don’t look at cause. Why not? Isn’t that the root of all successful solutions. We all need to look into the causes.
Bush/Cheney and the rest of those bastards, and what they do, are symtoms.
The fired U.S. Attorneys was due to their unwillingness to chase down non-existant voter fraud in the states that were in jeopardy to the neocons/Republicans.Another symtom.
The dangling chad B.S. in Fl. A symtom.
The symtoms go on and on.
Causes? There are many. And they AQLL revolve around money. Don’t forget Cabaret, “money makes the world go round, the world go round…”
PACs, and the power they have due to campaign funding (ie. NRA; AMA; Big Oil; the Israeli bullshit; the wealthy guys), are a primary cause.
Pandering to their wishes is a related cause.
The “idiocy” of our Red states? Cause.
No term limits for Congress? Cause.
Non-public disclosure of voting in Washington? Cause.
A manipulated Media? Cause.
It reminds me of my favorite Pogo blurb…“We have met the enemy, and it is us”.
Remedy/solution? NO MORE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ALLOWED. Give them $5.00 for each American Taxpayer, from the exorbitant taxes we already pay. Who out there would not be willing to pay $5.00 to “fix things” at the cause level? Not me. You? In other words, take the money out of poliltics. Although seemingly communistic, how about “forcing” the media giants who “force” us to watch commercials.  Why are we paying to be marketed to? They want to market to us, market to us outside of our airwaves. Not possible? You’re right. So, let’s get something for the intrusion. Free air time to all candidates equally, and on them. There’s the price they have to pay. Every election period, all candidates get equal time at no cost to anybody. I agree that the networks will freak. So what. How about we “nationalize” the airwaves, network execs? Ever hear of the BBC? Tell your stockholders whatever you need to. Try this. If you don’t you’ll be “nationalized”. That should provide enough of a scare to get them to concede.
How about stressing education in the Red States, instead of guns and fishin’?
How about prosecuting all who break laws, regardless of their wealth, or type of crime. How does a mugger on the street, or a drug dealer differ from the corporate mega-theft that’s goes on with little, or no, real reprisals? Truth is, it’s much worse, based on scale of damage caused. Why aren’t our prisons filled with lying/cheating/unscrupulous corporate guys instead of just lower socio-economic minorities? Money, thsat’s why. Why not incarserate them, take thier wealth and send a clear message to those that would, or currently is engaged in, similar behavior/crimes?
I made these comments because I was “moved” by a previous “commenter” about the streets have become the Internet. I welcome any comments about my comments. And I don’t think that I will hear anything from the rich guys, the Red State assholes, etc. The main reason for this belief is…they either don’t read this website(which, by the way has awakened me from my past smile, can’t writean intelligible (intelagabal, in their parlance) idea down or are part of the “All and Powerful Oz” community. You guys, however, are all, at least somewhat, on the same page as I am. At least that’s the feeling I get from your comments.  Keep writing. But, for goodness sakes, not to the now infamous “Writeyour Congressman” bullshit. The Dems, except for a few that still have a modicum of dignity and integrity, have sold us out also. They only want things to continue, but with them running things (and making the GOOD bucks) instead of the nasty Republicans! We need to “motivate” good and caring people to run and get out from under what is smothering us, the corporate will. Public funding, through taxes, will make that a possibility. Thanks for listening.

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By ardee, May 18, 2007 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment

As an inveterate habitue of political internet sites I heard this story more than a few months ago. There was a time in this nation when something like this would have been blockbuster news, sadly with the death of our free and investigative journalism these incidents pass mostly unnoticed.

Before the first Gonzales hearing I read something on line purportedly from a 25 year Justice veteran. He has taken early retirement because of the Gonzales Justice Dept. and he stated that, while one might disagree with the policies of Ashcroft the Dept was ably run and all the senior folks were very capable. Under Alberto many of the senior people were very young and inexperienced and made egregious and frequent errors. He said that Gonzales always appeared lost and out of place…....

When the Justice Dept. becomes just another political tool we should be aghast. When noone cares it may be alrady too late.

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By Chaseme, May 18, 2007 at 4:47 pm Link to this comment
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The martyrdom of this administration is mounting to a final hopeless agony. An agony which will only affect those who live in squalid or dingy surroundings, in huts, hovels, cottages, tenements and cellars almost as dismal as the ancestral cave and nearly as insanitary.

This administration continues take America and the rest of the world almost, outside the human experience; deep in the entrails of iniquity, to a place where infections, maladjustment and enfeeblement flourish.

Are we truly ready for a radically different approach to government?

Are we truly ready for a radically different leader? Or, are we content as a hog to continue to waddle in our own feces?

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By Ga, May 18, 2007 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

Rummy is gone, Wolfiwitz is gone, Libby is gone, and Gonzales is probably gone.

Many are gone now. And Blair is going. However, as they go they Media does not follow! Does not cover why they are going!

Though their house of cards is collapsing the Media still does not tell the American populous that their house was built on a pack of lies created to justify their aggression.

Kucinich and Ron Paul are probably the only candidates worthy of office, maybe Gravel too.

Alas they are all too pragmatic for the Media and the American populous at large and will never be nominated or elected. It is all about “glamour” now, how they look on TV, how much they perform for the crowds, how many cheers they get mouthing emotionally charged sound-bites with a straight face. Gulliani, Romney and Obama, Clinton. Perhaps Edwards.

The vast majority of Americans, remember, are very uneducated and very ignorant of history, and who really do not care about anything beyond what’s popular on TV.

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By THOMAS BILLIS, May 18, 2007 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment
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What a mess and we as Americans have only ourselves to blame.If you elect Ronald Mcdonald President of the United States whom did you expect him to nominate to key roles.
What is even more depressing is that for six years the Republican majorities in Congress in not performing oversite have allowed what might have been nipped in the bud problems to become national disgraces.Are we not all Americans.In the Republican party loyalty to the party trumps loyalty to the country.
I am a liberal and I understand that the other side wins and they run the country but I never in my 60 years of living through Eisenhower,Nixon,Ford,Reagan and Geroge H.W. Bush have I seen the other side so incompetent and a Congress allowing this incompetency to harm my country.

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By R.T.Thaddeus, May 18, 2007 at 1:12 pm Link to this comment
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I have seen an administration in trouble like this before( the Nixon Admin obviously) but this is far far worse.  Impeachment has to be brought out dusted off and placed prominently on the table.

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By Ga, May 18, 2007 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

“The man Gonzales harried on his sickbed was his predecessor as attorney general, John Ashcroft.”

Minor point—but sometimes minor points are important as stories are told and re-told—but at the time this occured Gonzales was White House counsel and Ashcroft was the Attorney General, saying “the man ... was his predecessor…” is not correct in that context. (He is his predecessor now, not then.)

“The episode—recounted this week in congressional testimony by AshcroftÂ’s former deputy, James Comey—sounds like something from Hollywood, not Washington.”

Um, this backwards. With rare exception Hollywood portrays Washington as overall the greatest institution that exists and that the only time there is corruption it is due to a few “bad apples” who always get caught. The Mainstream Media tells us this all the time too.

The reality is that corruption, strong-arm tactics, backroom negotiations, cronyism, bribing, etc. etc. is part of the American Way. The Republican party is only more corrupt, just how much more is perhaps a matter of some debate, than the Democratic party.

To the Republicans—highlighted by Gonzales and Yoo—the ends justifies the means. This is called “Unitary Executive” theory in which extraordinary power is given to the Executive Branch because of this ends justifies the means idea.

The Republican Party happens to be right now in the hands of a very extreme fringe. That goes from the legal system and the Federalist Society to the executive and so on. What they basically want, to put it simply, is a kind of an elective dictatorship. The chief executive should have total control over the executive branch. And the executive branch should dominate the other branches. ThatÂ’s an effective mode of authoritarian control, natural for those whose dislike of democracy goes beyond the norm.
—Noam Chomsky

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By jonathan, May 18, 2007 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

It is a matter of fact; that George W Bush frequently appoints “less than qualified” persons to important government positions.
GBW is indeed; “less than qualified” so what else can we expect of him.
The entire world will be pleased when he is replaced.

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By Forkboy, May 18, 2007 at 11:32 am Link to this comment

Ah shit.  Of course this doesn’t come as a surprise.  And I haven’t yet seen anyone asking the more pertinent question:  why has this only come to light three-years and two-months later?  Why disclose this information now?  Please.  If Comey really felt so irritated that he was willing to quit, why does he tell us this information now?  Is it simply because the White House backed down?  Seems to me that this incident should have convinced both Comey and Ashcroft that the White House was seriously unethical.  Alas, allegiance to the Party (Republican) was more important than allegiance to the country, it’s populace the constitution.

And where is the subsequent story about Gonzales as evidenced by none other than the Daily Show with Jon Stewart?  In April Gonzales tells all that McNulty had little if anything to do with the fired US Attorney issue, but now, after McNulty quits, Gonzales tells us that it was ALL McNulty; that he was the one responsible for the day-to-day work on the firings?

Impeachment?  Vote of no-confidence?  Why not simply have him arrested for perjury?  He can’t have the McNulty situation both ways so he had to have lied on at least one of these two occasions.

And while we are all enjoying the insanity that is the current White House administration and the Republican party in general, let’s not take our eye off that old scoundrel Newt “Contract With America” Gingrich who is contemplating a run at the White House in 2008.  Let us remember and let everyone know how his Contract With America has led us to what may amount to the most unethical Republican administration and Congress in modern U.S. history.

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By joneden, May 18, 2007 at 11:01 am Link to this comment
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I find the word that comes to mind is “Thug.”

jon
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By Verne Arnold, May 18, 2007 at 10:02 am Link to this comment

Re #70800 by Leefeller on 5/18 at 7:16 am

Thank you, but you give me too much credit. Optimism is a struggle for me as well, but I don’t see a choice.  This is our fight on the home front.  Our enemies are not from without but rather from within (the most dangerous kind).  This puts us in the unique position of a combatant, but not with a gun…we only have our brains and our ability to spread the word, by the pen if you will.  I’m used to going to the street, aka, the 60’s, but now the “street” is the internet.  I’m still finding my way and I’m clumsy and unsure…finding my way…“meeting” people like you and connecting in awkward ways I’m not used to.  I guess we are in a form of combat and I’ll be damned if I’ll let the bastards get me.  If the “new” congress is sincere and really is going after the “bad” guys, then give them a chance to do it.  I’m not happy with the progress…it seems too slow, but I’m impatient…so maybe I need to give them a chance.  Rummy is gone, Wolfiwitz is gone, Libby is gone, and Gonzales is probably gone.  Bushes administration is in fact disintegrating…not fast enough but it is going down.
Kucinich and Ron Paul are probably the only candidates worthy of office, maybe Gravel too.
I can only say…fight the only way you can…speak at every opportunity.  This is probably the gravest danger to our Republic in our lifetime, so fight like hell!
My best to you.

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By QuyTran, May 18, 2007 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

How low will he go ? Very easy to answer = Below the toilet.

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By Dale Headley, May 18, 2007 at 9:36 am Link to this comment
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How low can he go you ask?  As low as George Bush wishes to drag him to protect what little remains of his own pathetic, political, relevance.  “Berto” can never descend low enough for Bush to disavow him; because, when all is said and done, they’re two peas in a pod of festering corruption.

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By Hammo, May 18, 2007 at 8:40 am Link to this comment

It seems appropriate for Congress to conduct thorough investigations of Gonzales and his role and activities regarding many elements of the Bush-Cheney administration.

What else has he been involved in that require assertive inquiry by Congress?

Related to this, the article below may be of interest:

“New Congress must conduct necessary inquiries and investigations properly” (AmericanChronicle.com)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=15108

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By jatihoon, May 18, 2007 at 8:15 am Link to this comment

As they sow, so shall they reap.  saint Kabir

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By anonymous, May 18, 2007 at 7:32 am Link to this comment
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The country’s in deep, deep danger.  Billions have been stolen.  Hundreds of thousands have been killed.  Millions have lost homes or been forced to flee.  The highest offices in government have been occupied by thugs.  Fredo could provide information that would lead to the arrest of the organized criminals who are responsible. 

What kind of torture would you authorize?

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By Inherit The Wind, May 18, 2007 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
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That it took a sick and nearly comatose John Ashcroft to prevent an even grosser attack on our Constitution than the ones Ashcroft agreed to is terrifying.

It should be abundantly clear that Alberto Gonzales is nothing but fascist tool of a tyrant.  When even John Ashcroft is horrified by an attack on freedom, when he has to marshall courage from his hospital bed to stop the traitors in the White House, it’s time for Congress to get off its rear and act.

Force this guy out and force out the system that put him in!

I suppose we all thought that nobody could be worse than John Ashcroft and that Gonzales would just be a clone.  We were all tragicallyl mistaken. But Bush, Cheney and Rove weren’t. They knew exactly how much more extreme Gonzales is.

They all deserve to be arrested and tried as traitors, because that’s what they are.

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By Kellina, May 18, 2007 at 7:23 am Link to this comment
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Thank you for finally posting this story.

Are any of you surprised at the conduct of a man (Gonzales) who legalized torture?

There seems to have been a coup and we Americans are the last to know about it.

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By Leefeller, May 18, 2007 at 7:16 am Link to this comment

Verne Arnold, your optimism toward the wheels of justice, are somewhat inspiring to this pessimist. 

“Kharma rules”, it saddens me to say if that were true, we would not be in Iraq.

Gonzales bed side manner reminds me of something that happened several years ago here, in our small farming community. 
Not one day after the death of her husband, a farmers widow was approached by one of the leaders in our community.  He suggested and convinced her, that she should sell her property to him and then she could move to town, which would be more easy on her.  She barley had time to start her grieving,  and the fact that her late husband was not even cold yet, shows us the ruthlessness of people reaching for power.  The person I speak of is now in State politics.

Con-men love to take advantage of trust, Gonzales is the rule rather than the exception.

Pessimist me!

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By Margaret Curey, May 18, 2007 at 7:10 am Link to this comment
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Remember when Sen Chuck Hagel said if you want a safe job become a shoe salesmen, this Gonzales is a little less than a lounge lizard, and he does the bidding of the administration, I think that maybe we have seen how low these people can go, I say IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH THE WHOLE ‘GANG THAT CAN’T SHOOT STRAIGHT’.

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By blueshift, May 18, 2007 at 6:57 am Link to this comment

He’s still in office because he’s a human shield for the nucleus of this administration, the lords of misrule. It will be up to Congress, which was slightly upgraded from ‘do nothing’ to ‘kid glove treatment,’ to shift to bare knuckle mode and get rid of him.

To get the wheels off the wagon, Congress is going to have to remove the lug nuts first. I wish they would roll up their sleeves and do the work Congress (and only Congress) was designed to do.

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By JohnDWoodSr, May 18, 2007 at 6:08 am Link to this comment

Shocked? No. Disgusted? Yes. And in the meantime our fine Congressional leaders investigate, dither, blather, rant, complain and threaten, but refuse to take real action via impeachment and imprisonment for these criminals and traitors. Why is that? They are so worried about their own political skins and so owned by special interests that they will not do anything to jeopardize either. Those spineless wimps simply cannot undertand that if they actually did the right thing and took action based on basic legal and moral principles, they would be hailed as heroes by a grateful citizenry. I am out of patience because our country is running out of time. If our legislators refuse to do the will of the people, they are no better than the criminals that we want brought to justice. Where does that leave us?

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By James Yell, May 18, 2007 at 5:33 am Link to this comment
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I wish I could be confident that the wheels of justice are turning, be it slowly. Remember that Bush/Cheney still hold their positions as elected officials and still will nominate and get appointed official replacements. We have already seen Bush talk about bipartisianship and then sneak in appointments that he knew would be impossible or difficult to get appointed thru legal standards. He has over used loopholds that were never intended to give a President “carte blanche”, but to give flex needed in emergency. There have been no emergency in this administration that weren’t invented or created by the complete disregard for truth and need for action based upon truth.

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By Louise, May 18, 2007 at 5:17 am Link to this comment
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“The more one learns about him, the more unbelievable it is this man is still our attorney general.”

The more one learns about this administration, the more unbelievable it is THEY are still in office.

The more one learns about THEM, the more unbelievable it is our Congress isn’t screaming IMPEACH!

How low can Gonzales go?

How deep is a bottomless pit?

Bush, when asked directly yesterday about the Hospital incident answered, “I’m not gonna talk about it.”

“It just gets worse and worse.”

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By Verne Arnold, May 18, 2007 at 2:46 am Link to this comment

Well…can we truly be shocked by anything coming from this administration? 
After 6 years of this ongoing crap I certainly hope not.
It’s time to buckle down and forge ahead with dogged persistence.
Wolfowitz is gone, Rummy is gone, many are gone and more are going. 
I am by nature not a patient person, but the wheels of justice move slowly and we still have almost 2 years to get the rest of the corrupt bastards.  The beauty of all of this is they are hanging themselves with their incompetence…YES!!!
Remember…Kharma rules!!!

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