Look, Oh Totally Illogical One,

First, You are an insult to the Marines. (Most marines will agree with that, as the 24,000 plus members of Vets For Freedom and so will many, many millions of other Americans.)

Second, I care less what this “Human Rights Watch” found. Anyone with even half a brain and modicum of knowledge knows better.

JUST the Prison for LITTLE KIDS YOU REPORTED ON PROVES they are WRONG.

TORTURING TWO YEAR OLDS PROVE IT!

The HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Iraqi’s tortured by Saddam PROVE them WRONG!

The THOUSANDS of men, women children and babies KILLED BY Saddam’s Poison Gas PROVE they are WRONG!

The Average of 30,000 Iraqis executed EVERY YEAR by Saddam PROVES they are WRONG.

The Dead killed by Iraqi forces in Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia PROVE THEY ARE WRONG!

The dead Americans and others killed by the terrorists in the Philippines and supported by Saddam for over eight years PROVE they are WRONG.

Saddam paid $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers who had killed men, women, children & babies. And these DEAD PROVE your IDIOT “Human Rights Watch” is WRONG!

And YOU Oh Clueless One, is WRONG as well only you are too damn dumb to know it.

Neil C. Reinhardt

“A Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist, a Vet, and a Iconoclastic Philosophizing Grumpy Old Son Of A Beach!”

http://www.nj.com/centraljersey/index.ssf/2008/03/w _windsor_man_pleads_guilty_in.html

Dear Ardee,(the grandmother of fourteen (?)grandchildren)
You can repeat your martra of six million of incinerated Jews as long as you please, but there is absolutely no evidence to confirm it, except the incessant Jewish propaganda which ,curiously, reappears every time the bestial treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis can no longer be dressed up as a ‘legitimate war on terror’.
Jews did suffer disproportionately in the hands of the Nazies but the inflation of the figures (unless they count all those numerous ‘survivals’ as ‘incinerated’) doesn’t do the justice to the real victims, and much less justify their abominable treatement of the Palestinians.
If you continue shrieking this rubbish, don’t get surprised if the people start thinking the whole thing was simply a Jewish hoax.

I appreciated your post. I don’t find Howard Zinn ‘radical’ at all. Unless you mean by that that it is a ‘people’s history.’

I understand that the Israeli press is far more critical of it’s own govt. than the so-called ‘free press’ of the USA. Would that we had more access to their press or that it would be acknowleged in this country.

Insightful statements. We desperately need to get the corporate boot off our necks. The sooner the better.

Captain Scott Shields and BEAR - hero of WTC etc.,

- please look at http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk.

He has been indited for Fraud against US GOV, FEMA, RED CROSS and Mail fraud.
Faces 35 years in jail.
Please do not buy the fictional book or give to his foundation - it all goes in his pocket!

http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk

Captain Scott Shields and Dog - responder and hero of WTC - no fraud!!!!

http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk - he is no indited by US Gov. and faces 35 years for mail fraud, RED CROSS and FEMA fraud.

There are many articles on the web http://www.landofpuregold.com is a super one.

He is not a captain, he and his dog were not trained in search and rescue.  he has never been a responder at WTC or Katrina but turned up and was put off after a day.  He was not at oklahoma, sago, turkey or gulf - he was never in army or navy.  He is a fraud pure and simple.

His web site bearsearchandrescue.org and his book Bear heart of a hero - full of exagerations and fabrication - read Nancy West’s take on her ex co-author of the book - interesting eh

He and his sister are indited now.

http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk for more information.

HIRNLEGO………You’ve provided powerful links to truth.  Thank you for the education!  I am surprised at the length of time our Global Domination has been in the the works……from Poppy, through Clinton, and on to Jr…...and worked on by Powell, Scooter, Wolfowitz, etal from before they ever took office.  The inevitability of it all fills me with sadness.

And renews my doubt in the 9-11 story.  As Brzezinski said in his book of plans for our global dominion,
“……..The public supported America’s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” He predicts that because of popular resistance to US military expansionism, his ambitious Central Asian strategy can not be implemented “except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.” [Brzezinski, 1997, pp. 24-25, 210-11]

Such a scenario has been portrayed by others as a necessary preface for military action.  So we’re told our friendly Saudis conveniently provided the whole play.  And our Commander in Chief said, “Am I lucky?  I just hit the trifecta!”

@ shz
In order to control the world you need the oil. Cheney didn’t have an energy task force for nothing and the PNAC document"RAD” mentions the need to protect “the continues flow of oil”.
Mr Ritter is one of the best voices today for some real information. I’d like to share some links:
The US War with Iran has Already Begun (2005):
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0620-31.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11503.htm
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=10595
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/144204
http://www.traprockpeace.org/traprock_video/index.php/ 2007/04/20/scott-ritter-target-iran-part-1/
Other information that might be useful to read about:
Office of special plans, joint vision 2020; full spectrum dominance, P2OG
A link that gives a brief overview of the world dominance plans: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeli ne=complete_911_timeline&geopolitics;_and_9/11=centralAsia< /a>

Once again we get logical arguments on a very narrow point. Wars, other than perhaps World War II, are rarely “moral”. Goering was absolutely right,

“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country.”

Yes, the war was an absolute lie. Most wars are based upon lies. But what is required is a way out. Until the military industrial complex is given another mission, war will continue to be economic policy. The Democrats and Republicans have approved every single Pentagon budget which of course has pork for their pet military base or defense contractor. When the war began both parties were falling over themselves on who was “tougher” on “terrorists”.

A partial solution to the militarization of our economy and disaster of a foreign policy is give the aerospace contractors the exploration of the inner solar system. Give the navy contractors protection of the wildlife in the ocean by creating wildlife zones and actual exploration of the ocean floor.

As most of you who are reading this are aware, we spend more money on “national security” then the next 20 nations combined. Corporate America will never walk away from tax payer dollars as long as they can find a way to justify these massive defense budgets. Without a “communist threat” to justify the $500 billion dollar plus armnaments juggernaut, a “threat” had to be created. What better villian then the “war on terror”. Bush is talking about this new “war on terror” lasting the rest of this century. But war is a disaster for an economy.

Our false war economy with deficit spending has been propped up by Japanese and Chinese purchasing of our bonds. When, not if, our Asian rivals stop purchasing our bonds, the dollar will fall and our economy will have a recession. What happens next will be very dangerous. In times of economic trouble the masses turn to fascists.

We cannot fight the evil in the world with just military means. We must also use individual acts of kindness and help poor families in the Third World.
All of us get so caught up in the moment we overlook the obvious.

There are no “Iraqis”, “Americans”, “insurgents” or even “terrorists”. There are only people, plants and animals on a very small planet that are at times frustrated, angry, greedy and sometimes hopeful.

Once we look at this and other “political” problems from a historical, astronomical context, we will see the way out. We need to explore again. The key to peace on earth is exploration of the ocean floor and the eventual colonalization of Mars. Until we slowly re-direct defense spending and give the military industrial complex a new mission, we will continue to have more mothers weep over their fallen loved ones.

Danny Quintana
author of “Pax Americana, The Military Industrial Complex And The War On Terror” free online at
huntingandgathering.org

As publisher of the online magazine of Jewish culture, lifestyle and politics, the Gantseh Megillah, please allow me to applaud you Mr. Ritter.

Your insights and plain facts of the case are compelling and bring the atrocity of the Iraq invasion by the U.S. into its true perspective.  Mr. Dershowitz and his allies have been using all kinds of hideous scare tactics, and knee-jerk reaction causing illustrations such as the Holocaust as a way of achieving his own political agenda. This is below contempt, and I have said so many times in letters to my thousands of readers.  I hope your article will help spread the word about the danger in taking most of what war monger Dershowitz has to say, and lead people to think and use their own sense of moral right and wrong to fully judge what we are doing in Iraq.

Over time Mr. Dershowitz has proven an embarrassment to the legal profession and a liability to Harvard. As an apologist for Zionism and shameless crusader for the doctrine of Jews as a uniquely privileged and chosen people, his argument for “legitimate belligerent reprisal” should be viewed in the light of his true agenda—one in which America has only a supporting role to the real star player.

It’s a little sad that we are still gifting credibility to this self-destructing propagandist by airing his ideas - even if it is to dismantle them.  But, tempting as it is, it is a mistake to dismiss him out of hand.  If the Bush administration has taught us anything, it is that in the heat of the moment, an argument need not be correct to achieve it’s aims.

Excellent article by Ritter!
And some excellent comments from the readers!
Truthdig is so incredibly worthwhile and important!

Esp. appreciated HIRNLEGO’S link to “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”.  Most frightening article I’ve ever read.  It puts the lie to our naive belief that this war is over oil….It’s about AMERICAN CONTROL OF THE WORLD!  Please….everybody read http://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html

And thanks to TRUTHSEEKER for the link to Manuel Valenzuelas.  Great writing.  Looking forward to reading all of his articles.  http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2006/02/land-of -puppet-people_15.html

As a kid I’d often go to the VFW with my aunt and uncle, a WW1 vet.  Just another bar with an excess of macho, John Wayne fantasies.  Most vets don’t belong.

So, Scott Ritter’s finally come out of the closet: he is an Anti-Semite (!)
  Yes sir, he dared to mention Dershovits and if there was any more proof needed, he didn’t inform us about that famous Saddam’s prison for under 12-year olds, just to prevent us from attacking Iraq.
  Good Grief!and we thought we had a hero.
  Since I’ve been declared myself an Anti-Semite, I’ll venture to say something on this subject.
  Frankly, I thought Scott wasn’t one of “us” as he tried to clubber me, preemptively, for my ” six million victims” disbelief. Now, he has been classified in the same cathegory as Jimmy Carter, by those ever vigilant guardians of the Holocaust Orthodoxy. But, this prison for under 12, where the kids were “starved, beaten, raped, tortured and murdered” is the real nub of the story of Scott’s depravation, since an anti-Dershowits stand doesn’t impress much anybody out of the closed and shrinking circles of his true believers.
  That horror prison for kids was most likely no more than an orphanage with all its current abuses, and that Scott didn’t want to join the hollering bloodthirsty crowd of Dershowits type, it is entirely to his credit.
  What is forgotten now, are some other horror stories promoted by our office of special operations (run by the tandem Rumsfeld,Wolfowits,Perle). Here is one:
Saddam has adapted a shredding mashine to shred “slowly” his political oponents. There was no investigation to the truth of this by our sorry “free media” (because they liked the story) and we went to the War with it. It is only when we “won” that this proved to be a total fabrication (inter alia)
(But,of course,since Saddam was so bad “it could have been true”).There was no mention of this any longer and Dershowits&Co; had it their way,only for a while- though, they want now more of the same for Iran.
  If Scott didn’t report these, it is absolutely to his credit. If the abuse of children could be a legitimate ‘causus belli’, the whole world would have ganged up on US a long time ago.
  So, gentlemen Semites, get off your imaginary high moral horse, you are fooling nobody any longer.
Your anti-Semitic anathemas are wearing thin and your victories are every time more pyrrhic for it is your very behaviour which creates anti-Semites.
  Such bloody fools.

Well done Marine! Your artical is right on point. I served four years in the U.S.Navy on Submaines during “The Forgotten War”, Korea and did not join any Veterans Organization for much the same reasons you mention.

Keep up the good work, you are a credit to our country and your service to the country is greatly appreciated.

The fact that Scott Ritter did not report the child prisons has nothing to do with supporting the invasion of Iraq.  One can be against the invasion and against Saddam’s child prisons but for another means of dealing with the problem.  For Scott Ritter to distort truths in order to press his own political agenda is repulsive.  It reminds me of other repulsive individuals (Bush, Rummy, Cheney) who did the same thing to support the invasion.  Scott Ritter is no better or worse than Bush on this account.  I believe that was the argument made against Scott Ritter by Reinhardt not an argument for the war.  Scott has another strike against him.  He is an anti-Semite much like the majority of responders to this article who chose to deny the Holacaust and sling irrational criticisms based on hate rather than intelligent thought.  Thank you Ardee for bringing this to light.  This ignorance is dooming the left to become irrelevant.  Where are all the intelligent people?

I will not allow this thread to be hijacked into a sidebar discussion of a proven fact; that six million jews, one million gypsies and about one hundred thousand homosexuals were slaughtered in the camps. As a child in the Bronx, NY I knew far too many who wore the tattoo on their forearm to fall for this posters agendised rant. I will say, in my final response to one who does appear to conflate the religion of the jew with the policy of the Israeli government, that the fact that so many survived had far more to do with the rapid deterioration of the German defenses than with the fact of the holocaust as myth. A people who thought their reich would survive for a thousand years also thought that they had plenty of time to exterminate the jewish people. The ovens and gas chambers worked around the clock in the closing days of WW2 and thank goodness that even the efficiency of the German machine paled before the task at hand.

I do not, in any way, support the policies of the Israeli government towards the indigenous peoples of that region. I despise, in the strongest terms, the way the lands of the arabs were stolen, the treatment of the palestinians by the JDL and the govt of Israel and the refusal of Israel to address its violations of international law and the laws of human decency and morality. But unlike Peter RV I am quite able to understand that it isnt Judaism that is the culprit here, any more than Protestantism is responsible for the ridiculous interpretation of that religion by Bush 41 and his coterie of insane right wing christian extremists. I focus my anger where it rightly belongs, on the actions of a government that is failing its people and its neighbors.

By the by it might be mentioned here that Israel and Lebanon are both democracies and are the only such in the middle east. Having been in Israel on three separate occasions I am all too aware that the coffee houses in Jerusalm and Haifa are filled with those who strongly dissent with the policies of their government and will, sooner or later, effect the necesary changes to those policies. That they are also Jews is again secondary to the fact of their citizenship.

Amongst the manufactured evidence is the artificially low death estimates given by the war faction, foolishly abetted by Iraq Body Count and one or two others. The attached is grim but necessary reading. It further gives the lie to Iraq Body Count and other agencies who are, willingly or not, underestimating the carnage in Iraq. These figures are just those which have come to the attention of the Karbala authorities.

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&cli ck_id=3&art_id=nw20070515125826979C680577

Scott Ritter has consistently spoken out against the manufactured “evidence” leading the foolish American to eagerly support a weak presidents desire to attack a basically defenseless nation. For that reason, he has been vilified and denigrated almost non-stop by those who took offense at his fact backed truth.

People so enamored by their fantasy memories of war that they prefer being lied to is sad enough. That they encourage their loved ones to take up arms and possibly die for this weak presidents fantasy is beyond comprehension.

Saddam was a bad man.  Attacking an entire nation to catch a single bad man, and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the process was just plain stupid. So like it or not, we are left with the question, why did we attack Iraq anyway?

We know, it was not because Saddam had anything to do with 9/11. He did not. We also know it had nothing to do with his Weapons of Mass Destruction. He had none. Which leaves us with two possibilities.

Oil and Stupidity.

Either this president badly wanted to gain control over Iraq’s oil, or he is an incredibly stupid man. Take your pick.

Those are the obvious simple answers, but there’s more. The wish to expand opportunities to those corporations that quickly moved into position to make huge profits from this war. And the need to justify an out of control wish to be the Empire that controls the world through force.

Those who engage in war-profiteering need no explanation. Their blood-stained greed can be seen by all. Those who support Empire display their ignorance of the human cost of war and their cowardice, having never fought in one. 

For a president and congress who are supposed to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and serve the people who put them in office, there is no explanation or excuse.

Which brings us back to the heroes, the veterans, the legionnaires.

They of all people know the human cost of war. They of all people should be outraged at having been lied to. They more than anyone else should see the futility of human sacrifice to support greed and stupidity.

There is nothing glorious about starting a war. There is nothing noble about killing thousands of innocent children. And there is no rational justification for accepting and repeating a lie, rather than accepting you were lied too.

Scott Ritter needs no defense. But, who will defend the indefensible?
The lies that have taken so many lives.
The lying that continues to demand human sacrifice.

The time for excuses has passed. The time for real courage is here.
That courage that will say no more lies and demand accountability.
That courage that will risk being ridiculed and demand no more human sacrifice for oil and profit and stupidity.

That courage that will demand no more dying for the vanity of Empire!

Reference
  C#69879 Ardee
  You may know some “holocaust denier” like myself but I also know a lot of “holocaust peddlers” which are by far more obnoxious species.
  We are being led by these gentlemen to accept the most absurd of the conclusions:
  On one hand, Germans were fanatically meticulous in keeping record on their crimes, and at the same time equally sloppy in letting so many Jews escape alive, ungassed.
  Whoever wants to believe in this nonsense, he is entitled to it. I’m not one of them.
(This is ,in fact, what thousands of Hollywood’s holocaust movies suggest us to accept as the unique morally correct way of thinking).
  But, there’s more.
  Jews are the most ancient myth-makers and the “six million” victims comes naturally to those who believe that God has promised Abraham all the land between Nile and Euphrates.
  Much more recently, Golda Meir, the prime minister of “the only democracy in the Middle East” said that “there is no such a thing as a Palestinian People. It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist”.
  And, how about the Zionist slogan “Land without People to the People without Land” which was raging
until it was debunked by the reality- the terrorist atacks from those who “did not exist”?
  The latest specimen of fabulation is, of course, our own Paul Wolfowits who bestowed upon our Nation the concept of the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction for which we bravely wage this war ever since.
  Why should anybody believe anything these people say, when they lie so blatantly?
  If I were a Jew, I would insist very much for my tribe to get out of this dangerous trance they are in (but that is not my business).

Neil C. Reinhardt complains:

“Scott Ritter is a low life jerk.  I have no respect for him or anything he says!

“He knew about the special
prison Saddam set up for children (age 12 & under)
where they were held, starved, beaten, tortured raped and murdered. Yet he did not want to make it public knowledge as it would further justify the Iraq War.”
——————

Undear Neil, listen up.

Human Rights Watch (HRW), after an exhaustive study, found that the US invasion of Iraq could not be justified on humanitarian grounds.

HRW holds that war is indeed sometimes justified as a humanitarian intervention, but must be severely weighed against its inevitable horrors in order to be justified. HRW did a study of the human rights situation in Iraq at the time of the US invasion. Their conclusion? This:

“In sum, the invasion of Iraq failed to meet the test for a humanitarian intervention.”

http://hrw.org/wr2k4/3.htm#_Toc58744952

So shut up.

Scott Ritter is a low life jerk.  I have no respect for him or anything he says!

He knew about the special
prison Saddam set up for children (age 12 & under)
where they were held, starved, beaten, tortured raped and murdered. Yet he did not want to make it public knowledge as it would further justify the Iraq War.

Neil C. Reinhardt

The basic premise of the article is right on.  The use of Alan Dershowitz’s comments to make a point about the immoral war in Iraq and the human rights violations at Guantanamo is disingenuous.  The comments made by Dershowitz have NOTHING to do with these issues.  Dershowitz made the argument to address an entirely different topic.  Either the author does not understand the point being made by Dershowitz or he is has an ulterior motive.  Judging from the well written and persuasive rhetoric I do not think this author can hide behind ignorance.  I wonder what else would motivate devoting such a large percentage of the article to simply to denigrate a person on a tangential issue?  Is this an ad hominum attack in disguise or are there other targets?  Has TruthDig become Fox News using rhetoric to pull at heart strings rather than vetting posted pieces for accuracy?  This bothers me so much because I am normally a very strong supporter of the content and platform of TruthDig.  It’s for this reason that I hope that people who disagree with my post or would like more information about my argument respond to my post so that I may present an alternative interpretation of this article.  Thank you.

I commend you on your bravery mr.Ritter…
It is very hard to recognize the bad you have done in the name of something you hold dear (your country) and require much more than faith in yourself. And it is harder to do anything about it. Especially to admit that last line…..

Scott Ritter is marvelous as usual. Amazing man who has told the truth from the get go about Iraq and this evil, sleazy war foisted on naive Americans with lies from their government. And kudos to him for pointing out the nonsense of trying to justify what our troops have done. These guys have been duped and used, and they need to have the courage to understand and admit that is what has happened and direct their anger at those who have so cruelly used them.

I remember hearing my parents and their friends speak in hushed tones about solving the “Jewish Problem”

I remember the collective sighs of relief when the powers that be assisted the Jews in locating on Palestinian land.

I remember news reels at the afternoon matinee, showing the piles of dead and dying in Germany. I remember the German people being marched to the concentration camps by the occupying forces. I remember them in their Sunday best, looking as though they were going on a picnic. I remember them coming back ... weeping and distraught. Some unable to walk, others fainting or throwing up. Learning the truth can be a horribly painful experience.

Somewhere along the way, I remember my uncle returning from the war. Looking twenty years older. Not quite so quick to laugh and joke. A little jumpy. I remember hearing him cry, when he spoke to my Mother. I wondered why he cried.

Later, a friend from High School fought in the Korean War. He came home shattered. They called it “mommyism” back then. We still knew so little about the damage that happens when a good man kills another. Or sees his buddy blown up. My friend died in a Nursing Home before he turned thirty. I often wondered, could he have gotten better if he had just been able to cry?

When those “good” German people were forced to see the consequence of looking the other way, it saved their lives. And eventually helped re-build their national identity. They cried. They cried until there were no more tears. Then they healed.

Perhaps we have done a great disservice to the residents of Israel. Perhaps the tears that spring from remorse are essential to healing the soul. More than that, perhaps it’s time for all of us to get a little honesty. The world at large welcomed the opportunity to remove the Jews from European society and ship them off to Palestine. To ‘solve’ the Jewish problem. Now they seem helpless to deal with the problem they helped create.

Building justification for stealing from one to give to another often leads to a focus on the suffering of the other and ignoring the suffering of the one. And of course leads to an expansion and exaggeration of the original loss leading to the theft. A simple review of history lays out the uncomfortable reality that most Palestinians and Israelis are an incredibly long-suffering, not to mention tolerant people. As are most Iraqis and Afghanistan’s.

One mans ‘law and order’ guy is another mans terrorist. Same here as everywhere. Why does everyone have so much trouble understanding that? Terrorism is a state of mind inflicted on innocents by those who would commit crime. We have it, they have it. It’s like the need for food. Everybody has it.

Just as we have gangs and crime and killers here, they have them in Palestine and Israel, Iraq and Afghanistan. Their killers may claim their crime is motivated by a wish to bring security to their people, but is that so different from organizations in this country who under the protection of law and order shoot and beat and arrest and lock up anyone seen as a threat because they disagree with pre-emptive war, or the notion that our military can actually defeat terrorism?

Perhaps the Legionnaires suffer from selective memory. Or, maybe they never cried.  Maybe they chose instead to build a comfort zone of self forgiveness absolving themselves of any pain or suffering they may have inflicted on the innocent. Because there is no question, far more innocents die in war than guilty. And no one should know that better than the veterans of all foreign wars. Their inability to look squarely at the horror of war, and their part in it spills over and shapes the lie that shapes the ‘cause’ their sons and grandsons eagerly march off too die for.
How vain is that?

The true agenda for the Iraq war can be found through the neoconservative think thank PNAC. Here’s a short summary of their own “mein kampf”:

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html

I was a member of the American Legion (my service as a combat medical corpsman circa ‘67-‘68 in ‘Nam giving me access).  I have stopped going and paying dues primarily because of their continuing “war-mongering”.  I support our troops, but not the administration, and not this illegal occupation if Iraq.  We were told many reasons we had to go to Iraq, the initial ones were lies, the ones that follow were great media spin to keep the public dumbed down and accepting of new lies.  As long as Bush is “Mission Accomplishing in Office” he is not going to quit Iraq.  Has he yet attended a funeral of a fallen military personnel?

regarding:
C#69454 by Peter RV on 5/11 at 5:01 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

“I must be one of those who “deserves condemnation”, according to Scott Ritter, for “minimizing the holocaust”.Dershowits will hit the ceiling if he reads this but since he granted me the right of free speech, I’ll take it(thanks Professor)
I don’t deny that Jews were the main Nazi victims (along with Russians) but I have serious difficulty in accepting the “six million” version of it…....”

I have seen these holocaust denial folks before and wonder at their ability to selectively filter out the facts. While I certainly do not infer that this person has no right to an opinion, consideration must be given to the tons upon tons of methodical record keeping by the Nazis, detailing the life and death of every jew, gypsy, homosexual et al in their keeping. These records are open to the public and I recommend that Peter take a vacation to Germany and peruse them, it might be an experience that changes his perspective if not his political opinions.

To David, #69372

go back to school, and take a few math classes. The projected cost is not $2,000,000,000 ($2 billion), which make it cheap (in dollar terms, not lives), but $2,000,000,000,000 ($2 trillion). the extra few zeros make a difference, especially to your children and grandchildren when thay have to pay for it. And if anyone thinks the costs will stop at $2 trillion, do a little more homework on past government expenditures, and incidental costs, etc. And that is to lose the war, and that doesn’t count Afganistan, the “hidden disaster” that no one talks about only becasue Iraq is such a mess. And what if(when?) China decides one day to stop loaning the US $1 billion/day, or if (when?) other nations decide to sell their oil in Euros and not dollars, has anuone thought about what a collapse of the overvalued US $ will be?

as Talleyrand said about Napoleon’s decision to abduct and kill a royal rival, “it was worse than a crime, it was a blunder”

Mr. Ritter I heartily agree with your article on the anti-war.com and as a WW2 combat veteran I have lost confidence in the writings of the American Legion Magazine because of their many anti-American issues especially those of the Zionist’s position. As an example the USS Liberty attack by the Israelis and the Pollard spy case.

Thank you for calling a spade a spade.

Tell Boehner & McConnell
The Barrage of Bush/Cheney Lies
Is the Cover-Up To The
BIG LIE
The End Game is The U.S. Corporate Control of 687.8 Billion Barrels of Middle East Oil & Trillions for Mobil/Exxon & Big Oil!  IT WAS NOT ABOUT WMD, It Was Not About Saddam Hussein The Tyrant, it Was Not About Democracy For the 28 Million Iraqi People or About The Security for the 301 Million American People OR The Security for the 7 Million Israeli People or The 19 Million Syrians or The 71 Million Iranians CERTAINLY WAS NOT ABOUT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS!  IT WAS ALL ABOUT The Bush/Cheney Administration, Orchestrating A War & Using The U.S. Troop Occupation In Order To Seize U.S. Corporate Control of Over 44 Trillion Dollars Worth of Middle East Oil Reserves For The Next 30 Years Plus.  Including Gasoline 4-5 Dollars Per Gallon!
General David Petraeus Said,
The top U.S. commander in Iraq, depicted the situation there as “exceedingly complex and very tough” Thursday and said the U.S. effort “might become more difficult before it gets easier”
To General David Petraeus & Congress:
It’s Not Complex! It’s Very, Very Simple!
(Simple Fact #1 ) 

The Bush/Cheney Administration Invades Iraq Based On Lies To Ensure US Corporate Control of Middle East Oil Reserves & Military Industrial Profit, Installs a Democracy With Bullets & Bombs, Creates an (Oil Rich) US Backed Shia Controlled Government in Iraq, Which Will Force 6 Million (Oil Empty) Sunnis in Iraq To Choose Between Eating Sand or Setting Bombs! Oil Accounts for More 70% of Iraq’s GDP and 95% of Government Revenue. The New Iraq Oil Law, Largely Written by the Coalition Provisional Authority, is Planned for Ratification By June. This law cedes control of Iraq’s Oil to Western Powers for 30 Years. The Bush/Cheney Administration is Working Hard to Surmount This Opposition by Appealing Directly to the Al-Maliki Government in Iraq.
(Simple Fact #2 )
Al-Qaeda and The People in the Middle East Do Not Hate Americans; Do Not Hate Our Freedoms, But They Do Hate, Very Much, Unfair U.S. Government Policies, Including Having Our Troops Marching On Their Sacred Land – Be It U.S. Troops or Soviet Troops!
To: General David Petraeus & Congress:
It’s Not Tough!  It’s Mission Impossible!
(Simple Fact #3 )
There is NO Iraqi Government - There are only US Backed Shia Iraqi Death Squads Fighting Sunni Iraqi Death Squads! There Can Be and Will Be No End To The Civil War(s) in Iraq Until All U.S. Troops Are Removed From Iraq Because the U.S. Military Presence Delegitimizes Any Outcome! To Come To an Understanding of How Wealth and Power in Iraq Will be Shared, The Political Forces There, Must Measure Their Relative Capacity and Will!
U.S. Diplomacy YES!  U.S. Military Intervention NO!
Support Senate Resolution S 759 IS   Senator James Webb
PROHIBITS THE USE OF FUNDS FOR MILITARY OPERATIONS IN IRAN WITHOUT EXPRESS CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL
Support House Joint Resolution 14 Congressman Walter Jones
REQUIRING CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL PRIOR TO USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAN
Support H.R. 413 Congressman Sam Farr
LEGISLATION WHICH REPEALS THE IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION OF (2002) AND REQUIRES THE PRESIDENT TO START WITHDRAW

Very interested in all your comments & very much in tune with what most thinking Australians would say. Having lived & worked throughout the Middle East countries, I believe the Bush administration, supported by the so-called “Coalition of the willing” that includes Blair of the UK & Howard of Australia have sabotaged any real opportunity of peace in our time. My son who recently left the Australian military after 20 years service and served in the peace keeping forces overseas, agrees. Kind regards, John Jamieson from Western Australia.

Scott, ever since I “supported” you personally in your UN quest to shake the trees in Iraq in the late 1990s, I never thought you and I would be in the same camp about this disasterous, immoral war.  But I could not have expressed your sentiments better.  We cannot abate our expressions and actions of outrage over this administration’s truly misguided foreign policy that has killed so many civilians and soldiers and inflicted so many injuries.  For what?  Our government uses the word “kill” as though it is what makes America great.  It disgusts me.  Today, Mothers Day, must be so painful for the thousands of American mothers and we hear of more young troops killed south of Baghdad.  For What?  For peace?  For freedom?  I don’t think so.

Bert

Dershowitz wants Hamas to recognize Israel. How do you recognize a country with not just undefined borders, but huge swathes of terretories stolen to accommodate European converts to Judaism, all of
whom describe themselves as White/Caucasian; yet swear by the Torah that middle eastern land belongs to them.
The man is pure unadulterated evil.

American Legion and VFW members must be honoured for their service to their country.  However it is a shame that the leadership of the Legion and the VFW permit the Bush administration to use their organizations as a platform to justify the continuation of the wars in Iraq and Afganistan
I see Dick Cheney invited again and again. Yet this man lacks the basic qualifications for membership for either organization, due to the fact that he was too busy pushing his personal agenda let alone risking his life defending his country during the period 1962-1975. Why is he allowed to wear the honored cap of the Legion and the VFW?

  The next time Mr Cheney comes to one of these events, shouldn’t he be asked about the dreadful way the Aministration has treated the wounded returned veterans.

Unless the Legion and the VFW start standing up to the Bush administration and demanding fair treatment for the veterans of Iraq and Afganistan.
They have no future.

Thank you Mr. Ritter…this is a superb post. Mr. Dershwitz lost any objectivity long ago…he sees iraq war in the arab-jew context which also explains his support for the war. For Mr. Dershwitz, any one who criticizes Israel’s policies towards palestinians who have been made to live in abject and harsh conditions under its occupation is anti-semitic. By that definition, I am proud to be one.

Mr. Ritter, A great article. I’m sure you’ve read the Chalmers Johnson trilogy, starting with ‘Blowback’ but may I recommend it to others here. It is a withering indictment of the imperial ambitions of the US since the Spanish-American War. Well researched and documented and much less ‘radical’ than Howard Zinn, bless his heart. I do, however, feel that we have had imperial ambitions since the inception of this country, starting with Native American Indians. Mr. Johnson argues that merely HAVING a standing army predisposes us to wars of imperialism and so called ‘good wars’. So, why do we need a standing army if we act like real human beings in the world? I’ll bet we wouldn’t. And, a last bit of free advertising for ‘The Authoritarians’ by Bob Altemeyer on the web. 20+ years of testing his psych 101 students for right wing authoritarian tendencies. It’s fascinating reading, and it ties in with many of the comments here. He dovetails with George Lakoff’s work in understanding many right wing attitudes, (and to be fair anyone who exhibits authoritarian tendencies). Please keep writing Mr. Ritter, we need cogent voices like yours.

to jon raughter:

You comment 69419 is so typical of the blind right in that when you can’t come up with an intelligent response or arguement, you resort to mud-slinging.  I wouldn’t go around bragging to be the editor of anything with that attitude, its childish and it ruins your credibility.

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Empathy here for Harold Schreiber’s comments (#69329).  I volunteered for World War II, even insisted on going after they first tried to disqualify on health grounds; then stupidly joined the VFW for as long as it took for me to realize it was mainly a drinking club. Eventually became a university teacher, attempting to promote peace, diplomacy, career civil service and intellectualism.  Marched with A.N.S.W.E.R. just before the invasion of Iraq, not because I thought it would persuade anyone in the White House but because I wante