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The Good AmericanPosted on May 10, 2007
By Scott Ritter Editor’s Note: Scott Ritter was a Marine Corps intelligence officer from 1984 to 1991 and a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998. He is the author of numerous books, and his latest is “Waging Peace: The Art of War for the Antiwar Movement” (Nation Books, April 2007). I joined the American Legion a few years back. As a veteran of the Persian Gulf War in 1991, I was eligible to do so for some time but always hesitated, perhaps out of a sense of trying to deny that my days as an active-duty combatant were long past. Every year, on Memorial Day, my fellow firefighters and I would gather in the basement of the local American Legion hall before we paraded before the town we protect. I would look around at the uniforms and faded patches and ribbons worn by the veterans who joined us in the hall and realize that they, too, were deserving of a great deal more support than simply being wheeled out once a year to participate in a parade. So I sent in my application and was accepted. One of the fringe benefits of membership in the American Legion is a subscription to its monthly journal, The American Legion, billed as “the magazine for a strong America.” It quickly became apparent that The American Legion magazine was a sounding board for many holding quite militaristic and jingoistic opinions based on their rather limited personal experiences, many dating back to World War II. The war in Iraq, together with the overarching “global war on terror,” seems to be viewed by many in the American Legion as an extension of their own past service, and much effort is made to connect World War II and the Iraq conflict as part and parcel of the same ongoing American “liberation” of the world’s oppressed. It’s a shame for these Legionnaires that the Iraqis couldn’t have turned out to be blond, blue-eyed Germans who looked like us, and whose women could be wooed with chocolate and nylon stockings by the noble American liberator and occupier. Or, short of that, passive Japanese, who freely submitted their women to the massage parlors and barracks of their American conquering heroes while their men rebuilt a shattered society. The simplistic approach of many of the American Legion’s most hawkish advocates for the ongoing disaster in Iraq seems to be drawn from a selective memory which seeks to impose a carefully crafted past experience dating back to the last “good war” (i.e., World War II), expunged of all warts and blemishes, onto the current situation in Iraq in a manner which strips away all reality. It turns out that the Iraqis aren’t like German or Japanese people at all, but rather a fiercely independent (if overly complex) nation deeply resentful of a so-called liberation which has brought them nothing but pain and agony, primarily at the hands of those who have, unbidden, “freed” them from their past. The fact that the Iraqis resent the ongoing American occupation, and choose to express this resentment through violent resistance instead of submissive passivity, is in turn resented by many of the Legion’s membership. “War has been declared on the United States by those who are envious of our freedom, and they won’t stop until we are under their heel,” writes one Legionnaire in a letter published in the May 2007 issue of “the magazine for a strong America.” The juxtaposition of Iraq with those who perpetrated the events of Sept. 11, 2001, implied in this statement is reflective of a level of ignorance that boggles the mind. Iraq never declared war on the United States, the salesmanship exhibited in our promotion of “freedom” in Iraq leaves nothing to envy, and the Iraqis will stop resisting when we leave their country. Don’t try telling that to the blustery former Marine who authored the letter in question, however. He, like the majority of the Legion, is tired of hearing about “Bush’s war.” Advertisement “We’ve got to support the troops and the mission,” the article quotes one family member as saying. “The two are dependent on each other.” I’m all for supporting the troops. But blind support for a mission of such nebulous origin? This is a much different matter, one requiring more introspective investigation. I don’t think it was the magazine’s intent, but a foundation of such an investigation was laid in the very same issue. In his article “Minimizing the Holocaust,” Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz slams those who seek to dismiss Nazi Germany’s effort to commit genocide against Europe’s Jews. It is a very difficult article to digest, not because of the legitimate premise that those who seek to deny or minimize the Holocaust are deserving of condemnation, but rather for the ease with which the moralistic Dershowitz explains the bombing of Dresden in 1945 as a “legitimate act of belligerent reprisal for the relentless bombings of civilians in London and elsewhere,” or the dismissive waving-off of the systematic starvation of 1 million German prisoners of war by the United States after the surrender of Germany as an inconvenient result of a “food crisis across Europe, a result of the continent’s decimation,” and being a “far cry from the 6 million innocents who perished at the hands of the Nazis with absolutely no military justification.” I would be curious to know how Dershowitz would judge how the families of German soldiers deployed in combat operations should have viewed the Second World War. What if a mother of a young panzer grenadier fighting on the Russian front was to say, “The troops are the mission, and we cannot separate our support for either”? Should blind support for the fighting men likewise have blinded the families of German soldiers to the illegitimacy of their cause? Certainly Dershowitz would favor the “good German,” one who would have sought to deny facilitation of the Holocaust by refusing to support the war which empowered it. Would he so favor the “good American,” one driven by a sense of moral responsibility to speak out against acts perpetrated in Iraq and elsewhere by American fighting forces ostensibly in support of freedom, but in reality an extension of illegitimate policies reeking of global hegemony and American empire? Or would he choose to explain away Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, Bagram, the CIA’s secret gulag of torture as “legitimate acts of bellicose reprisals” for the events of Sept. 11, 2001? In Dershowitz’s tortured legal brain the events at Haditha and elsewhere, including the Marine massacre of civilians in Afghanistan, likewise assume legitimacy in this newfound legal defense of “legitimate bellicose reprisal.” Elsewhere: . CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment
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By Neil C. Reinhardt, July 9, 2008 at 4:14 pm #
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Look, Oh Totally Illogical One,
First, You are an insult to the Marines. (Most marines will agree with that, as the 24,000 plus members of Vets For Freedom and so will many, many millions of other Americans.)
Second, I care less what this “Human Rights Watch” found. Anyone with even half a brain and modicum of knowledge knows better.
JUST the Prison for LITTLE KIDS YOU REPORTED ON PROVES they are WRONG.
TORTURING TWO YEAR OLDS PROVE IT!
The HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Iraqi’s tortured by Saddam PROVE them WRONG!
The THOUSANDS of men, women children and babies KILLED BY Saddam’s Poison Gas PROVE they are WRONG!
The Average of 30,000 Iraqis executed EVERY YEAR by Saddam PROVES they are WRONG.
The Dead killed by Iraqi forces in Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia PROVE THEY ARE WRONG!
The dead Americans and others killed by the terrorists in the Philippines and supported by Saddam for over eight years PROVE they are WRONG.
Saddam paid $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers who had killed men, women, children & babies. And these DEAD PROVE your IDIOT “Human Rights Watch” is WRONG!
And YOU Oh Clueless One, is WRONG as well only you are too damn dumb to know it.
Neil C. Reinhardt
“A Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist, a Vet, and a Iconoclastic Philosophizing Grumpy Old Son Of A Beach!”
Report thisBy james, March 30, 2008 at 3:31 pm #
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http://www.nj.com/centraljersey/index.ssf/2008/03/w_windsor_man_pleads_guilty_in.html
Report thisBy Peter RV, February 8, 2008 at 12:29 pm #
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Dear Ardee,(the grandmother of fourteen (?)grandchildren)
Report thisYou can repeat your martra of six million of incinerated Jews as long as you please, but there is absolutely no evidence to confirm it, except the incessant Jewish propaganda which ,curiously, reappears every time the bestial treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis can no longer be dressed up as a ‘legitimate war on terror’.
Jews did suffer disproportionately in the hands of the Nazies but the inflation of the figures (unless they count all those numerous ‘survivals’ as ‘incinerated’) doesn’t do the justice to the real victims, and much less justify their abominable treatement of the Palestinians.
If you continue shrieking this rubbish, don’t get surprised if the people start thinking the whole thing was simply a Jewish hoax.
By Eamon, February 7, 2008 at 4:30 pm #
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I appreciated your post. I don’t find Howard Zinn ‘radical’ at all. Unless you mean by that that it is a ‘people’s history.’
Report thisBy Eamon, February 7, 2008 at 4:00 pm #
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I understand that the Israeli press is far more critical of it’s own govt. than the so-called ‘free press’ of the USA. Would that we had more access to their press or that it would be acknowleged in this country.
Report thisBy Eamon, February 7, 2008 at 3:45 pm #
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Insightful statements. We desperately need to get the corporate boot off our necks. The sooner the better.
Report thisBy Anna, December 5, 2007 at 5:42 pm #
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Captain Scott Shields and BEAR - hero of WTC etc.,
- please look at http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk.
He has been indited for Fraud against US GOV, FEMA, RED CROSS and Mail fraud.
Faces 35 years in jail.
Please do not buy the fictional book or give to his foundation - it all goes in his pocket!
http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk
Report thisBy anon, November 20, 2007 at 4:02 pm #
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Captain Scott Shields and Dog - responder and hero of WTC - no fraud!!!!
http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk - he is no indited by US Gov. and faces 35 years for mail fraud, RED CROSS and FEMA fraud.
There are many articles on the web http://www.landofpuregold.com is a super one.
He is not a captain, he and his dog were not trained in search and rescue. he has never been a responder at WTC or Katrina but turned up and was put off after a day. He was not at oklahoma, sago, turkey or gulf - he was never in army or navy. He is a fraud pure and simple.
His web site bearsearchandrescue.org and his book Bear heart of a hero - full of exagerations and fabrication - read Nancy West’s take on her ex co-author of the book - interesting eh
He and his sister are indited now.
http://www.scottshieldsfraud.co.uk for more information.
Report thisBy shz, May 19, 2007 at 4:59 am #
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HIRNLEGO Youve provided powerful links to truth. Thank you for the education! I am surprised at the length of time our Global Domination has been in the the works from Poppy, through Clinton, and on to Jr ...and worked on by Powell, Scooter, Wolfowitz, etal from before they ever took office. The inevitability of it all fills me with sadness.
And renews my doubt in the 9-11 story. As Brzezinski said in his book of plans for our global dominion,
..The public supported Americas engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. He predicts that because of popular resistance to US military expansionism, his ambitious Central Asian strategy can not be implemented except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat. [Brzezinski, 1997, pp. 24-25, 210-11]
Such a scenario has been portrayed by others as a necessary preface for military action. So were told our friendly Saudis conveniently provided the whole play. And our Commander in Chief said, Am I lucky? I just hit the trifecta!
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 17, 2007 at 10:56 pm #
Correction to my earlier posting. Orwell’s protaganist in “1984” was tortured and brainwashed in the “Ministry of Love.”
Kudos to Danny Quintana for providing Goering’s famous quote about how governments, whether fascist or democratic, drive their nation’s to war by appealing to fear and patriotism.
One of the three slogans in Orwell’s “1984” was “War is Peace.”
In June 2002 George W. Bush told the nation, “When we talk about war, we are really talking about peace.”
“What [Leni Riefenstahl] understood so much before anyone else is that the best propaganda is invisible. it looks like a documentary. Then you realize all you are seeing is glory, beauty and triumph, and you don’t see the darker side.” Claudia Koontz, “NewsHour” Sept. 9, 2003.
“I came to see that news is what people want to keep hidden, and everything else is publicity.” Bill Moyers, May 15, 2005.
I am disturbed when I read comments asserting the American people are stupid. They’re not stupid; their brainwashed by an endless stream of mind-numbing propaganda.
The power of the American propaganda network lies in its invisibility. When Americans turn on their nightly “news,” they don’t so much as suspect they are being bombarded with propaganda. America is a “free country.” The right to a “free press” is guaranteed in the Constitution. Unlike Tass, the American networks are privately owned.
In this day and age of crony capitalism a symbiotic relationship exists between those who hold office and a corporate-owned media that stands to acquire billions—a relationship which subverts the very purpose of the First Amendment, a purpose best described by Justice Hugo Black in NY Times vs. US (1971). “In the first Amendment the Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to fulfill its essential role in our democracy. The press was to have served the governed, not the governors. The Government’s power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government…Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount amount the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die….”
Compare that to the comment made by Paul Krugman in the Danny Schechter documentary, “Weapons of Mass Deception:” “You ask why do Europeans see things so differently, well, one answer is…they don’t have…‘Countdown Iraq,’ ‘SHOWDOWN IRAQ,’ ‘Target Iraq’ on their screens nonstop.”
Report thisBy Hirnlego, May 17, 2007 at 5:43 pm #
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@ shz
Report thisIn order to control the world you need the oil. Cheney didn’t have an energy task force for nothing and the PNAC document"RAD” mentions the need to protect “the continues flow of oil”.
Mr Ritter is one of the best voices today for some real information. I’d like to share some links:
The US War with Iran has Already Begun (2005):
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0620-31.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11503.htm
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=10595
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/144204
http://www.traprockpeace.org/traprock_video/index.php/2007/04/20/scott-ritter-target-iran-part-1/
Other information that might be useful to read about:
Office of special plans, joint vision 2020; full spectrum dominance, P2OG
A link that gives a brief overview of the world dominance plans: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&geopolitics;_and_9/11=centralAsia
By ardee, May 17, 2007 at 1:19 pm #
I would first express my appreciation for the insight expressed by Mr. Canning, very apropos considering the way a certain poster here continues to attempt to deflect the discussion from the realities and sidetrack it, undoubtedly his boss, Georgie 43, is most appreciative.
As to the Newspeak of which we are warned:
“So, Scott Ritters finally come out of the closet: he is an Anti-Semite (!)
Yes sir, he dared to mention Dershovits and if there was any more proof needed, he didnt inform us about that famous Saddams prison for under 12-year olds, just to prevent us from attacking Iraq.”
It was a very short time ago that Mr. Ritter was falsely accused of being an internet pedophile, now he is tarred as an antisemite, undoubtedly ironic as the author believes that misery must love company. I for one do not use the term antisemite loosely, and I doubt anyone of reasonable intellect believes that Ritter is one because he questions the statements of one particular jew.
Now one who ignores the many tons of documents detailing arrests, imprisonment and ultimate execution of those six million, including disposition of personal items including teeth, well one is free to draw conclusions.
I would note that this sudden interest in some childrens prison seems to fill the void created by the failures of any to find those mythic WMD’s or even any infrastructure conecting Hussein to a program of producing them. So much for mobile chemical labs, aluminum for centrifuges, yellow cake from Niger and the rest fo the incredible and outright lies that were needed to enable the invasion of Iraq.
Some distractors would have you believe in this new distraction in order to somehow justify all the lies and distortions, all the needless deaths and the worsening of our position in the world or how the illegal, immoral and stupid invasion has detracted from our efforts in Afghanistan and been a terrific recruitment tool for bin Laden.
I believe that this “war” is very akin to Orwell’s perpetual war for perpetual peace and I thank that poster for the reminder thereof. Removing the one major stumbling bloc to Islamofascism in the Middle East, the Baathist regime in Iraq, regardless of how awful a ruler Hussein was, and he was, along with many of our current allies by the by, Bush now rules through fear and lies. A pity there are those who buy into it yet.
Report thisBy Danny Quintana, May 17, 2007 at 12:55 pm #
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Once again we get logical arguments on a very narrow point. Wars, other than perhaps World War II, are rarely “moral”. Goering was absolutely right,
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country.”
Yes, the war was an absolute lie. Most wars are based upon lies. But what is required is a way out. Until the military industrial complex is given another mission, war will continue to be economic policy. The Democrats and Republicans have approved every single Pentagon budget which of course has pork for their pet military base or defense contractor. When the war began both parties were falling over themselves on who was “tougher” on “terrorists”.
A partial solution to the militarization of our economy and disaster of a foreign policy is give the aerospace contractors the exploration of the inner solar system. Give the navy contractors protection of the wildlife in the ocean by creating wildlife zones and actual exploration of the ocean floor.
As most of you who are reading this are aware, we spend more money on “national security” then the next 20 nations combined. Corporate America will never walk away from tax payer dollars as long as they can find a way to justify these massive defense budgets. Without a “communist threat” to justify the $500 billion dollar plus armnaments juggernaut, a “threat” had to be created. What better villian then the “war on terror”. Bush is talking about this new “war on terror” lasting the rest of this century. But war is a disaster for an economy.
Our false war economy with deficit spending has been propped up by Japanese and Chinese purchasing of our bonds. When, not if, our Asian rivals stop purchasing our bonds, the dollar will fall and our economy will have a recession. What happens next will be very dangerous. In times of economic trouble the masses turn to fascists.
We cannot fight the evil in the world with just military means. We must also use individual acts of kindness and help poor families in the Third World.
All of us get so caught up in the moment we overlook the obvious.
There are no “Iraqis”, “Americans”, “insurgents” or even “terrorists”. There are only people, plants and animals on a very small planet that are at times frustrated, angry, greedy and sometimes hopeful.
Once we look at this and other “political” problems from a historical, astronomical context, we will see the way out. We need to explore again. The key to peace on earth is exploration of the ocean floor and the eventual colonalization of Mars. Until we slowly re-direct defense spending and give the military industrial complex a new mission, we will continue to have more mothers weep over their fallen loved ones.
Danny Quintana
Report thisauthor of “Pax Americana, The Military Industrial Complex And The War On Terror” free online at
huntingandgathering.org
By cann4ing, May 17, 2007 at 1:57 am #
The legionnaires, like so many Americans, are the victims of Orwellian propaganda. In Orwell’s “1984” the English language itself was reconstructed into Newspeak “not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits of [the Party], but to make all other modes of thought impossible.” The government agency where Smith spent his time revising history and depositing inconvenient facts into “memory holes” was the “Ministry of Truth.” The agency where Smith would ultimately be torturned and brainwashed was the “Ministry of Truth.”
America put Orwellian terminology to use even before Orwell’s “1984” was first committed to print in 1949. With every war comes war profiteering. At the close of World War II, the trick was to find a way to justify continued military spending in the face of every war profiteer’s nightmare—peace! So they replaced the War Department with the Department of Defense. No matter how many countries we have invaded over the past sixty years, an ever expanding percentage of the federal budget is devoted to “military preparedness” in order to “maintain peace.”
One day after 9/11, the President went on TV. He said this wasn’t just an act of terrorism. It was an act of war. On 9/27/01 a Don Rumsfeld-penned op ed piece appeared in the NY Times telling us that this would be a war like no other and that we should not even think of an exit strategy. While General Wm. Odom reminded us that, from a practical standpoint, a “war on terrorism” is meaningless because terrorism is a tactic, not a target, as a propaganda tool it is exceedingly effective. As Antonia Juhasz noted in “The Bush Agenda,” the phrase “war on terror” envisions a perpetual war with a “phantom menace” involving “shadowy networks of individuals;”
a threat that is to be met “anywhere at any time, or everywhere all the time” thereby justifying an ever-expanding military budget and a pre-emptive war deliberately mischaracterized as a response to 9/11.
With the invasion of Iraq a fait accompli, the phrase “support the troops” was added to the Bush World lexicon. A deliberate effort is made castigate anyone who opposes the war of aggression in Iraq for failing to “support the troops.” It’s effectiveness can be seen in the so-called Democratic leadership’s refusal to put an immediate cut off of funds on-the-table—this despite the fact that it is the regime which engineered this neoconservative war of aggression and which insists on continuing this illegal occupation, thereby “betraying the troops;” this despite the fact that most of the funding does not go to the troops but instead to line the pockets of the war profiteers and despite the fact that voting to fund this war is an act of betrayal which will lead to the deaths of many more of our troops, not to mention innocent Iraqis.
So I can understand why the Legionnaires are having trouble distinguishing support for the troops from support for the mission or why someone driving a gas guzzling Hummer can’t see the irony in his “support the troops” bumper sticker.
Report thisBy Michael D Fein, May 16, 2007 at 4:53 pm #
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As publisher of the online magazine of Jewish culture, lifestyle and politics, the Gantseh Megillah, please allow me to applaud you Mr. Ritter.
Your insights and plain facts of the case are compelling and bring the atrocity of the Iraq invasion by the U.S. into its true perspective. Mr. Dershowitz and his allies have been using all kinds of hideous scare tactics, and knee-jerk reaction causing illustrations such as the Holocaust as a way of achieving his own political agenda. This is below contempt, and I have said so many times in letters to my thousands of readers. I hope your article will help spread the word about the danger in taking most of what war monger Dershowitz has to say, and lead people to think and use their own sense of moral right and wrong to fully judge what we are doing in Iraq.
Report thisBy WriterOnTheStorm, May 16, 2007 at 3:34 pm #
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Over time Mr. Dershowitz has proven an embarrassment to the legal profession and a liability to Harvard. As an apologist for Zionism and shameless crusader for the doctrine of Jews as a uniquely privileged and chosen people, his argument for “legitimate belligerent reprisal” should be viewed in the light of his true agenda—one in which America has only a supporting role to the real star player.
It’s a little sad that we are still gifting credibility to this self-destructing propagandist by airing his ideas - even if it is to dismantle them. But, tempting as it is, it is a mistake to dismiss him out of hand. If the Bush administration has taught us anything, it is that in the heat of the moment, an argument need not be correct to achieve it’s aims.
Report thisBy shz, May 16, 2007 at 2:13 pm #
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Excellent article by Ritter!
And some excellent comments from the readers!
Truthdig is so incredibly worthwhile and important!
Esp. appreciated HIRNLEGO’S link to “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”. Most frightening article I’ve ever read. It puts the lie to our naive belief that this war is over oil….It’s about AMERICAN CONTROL OF THE WORLD! Please….everybody read http://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html
And thanks to TRUTHSEEKER for the link to Manuel Valenzuelas. Great writing. Looking forward to reading all of his articles. http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2006/02/land-of-puppet-people_15.html
As a kid I’d often go to the VFW with my aunt and uncle, a WW1 vet. Just another bar with an excess of macho, John Wayne fantasies. Most vets don’t belong.
Report thisBy Peter RV, May 16, 2007 at 12:09 pm #
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So, Scott Ritter’s finally come out of the closet: he is an Anti-Semite (!)
Report thisYes sir, he dared to mention Dershovits and if there was any more proof needed, he didn’t inform us about that famous Saddam’s prison for under 12-year olds, just to prevent us from attacking Iraq.
Good Grief!and we thought we had a hero.
Since I’ve been declared myself an Anti-Semite, I’ll venture to say something on this subject.
Frankly, I thought Scott wasn’t one of “us” as he tried to clubber me, preemptively, for my ” six million victims” disbelief. Now, he has been classified in the same cathegory as Jimmy Carter, by those ever vigilant guardians of the Holocaust Orthodoxy. But, this prison for under 12, where the kids were “starved, beaten, raped, tortured and murdered” is the real nub of the story of Scott’s depravation, since an anti-Dershowits stand doesn’t impress much anybody out of the closed and shrinking circles of his true believers.
That horror prison for kids was most likely no more than an orphanage with all its current abuses, and that Scott didn’t want to join the hollering bloodthirsty crowd of Dershowits type, it is entirely to his credit.
What is forgotten now, are some other horror stories promoted by our office of special operations (run by the tandem Rumsfeld,Wolfowits,Perle). Here is one:
Saddam has adapted a shredding mashine to shred “slowly” his political oponents. There was no investigation to the truth of this by our sorry “free media” (because they liked the story) and we went to the War with it. It is only when we “won” that this proved to be a total fabrication (inter alia)
(But,of course,since Saddam was so bad “it could have been true”).There was no mention of this any longer and Dershowits&Co; had it their way,only for a while- though, they want now more of the same for Iran.
If Scott didn’t report these, it is absolutely to his credit. If the abuse of children could be a legitimate ‘causus belli’, the whole world would have ganged up on US a long time ago.
So, gentlemen Semites, get off your imaginary high moral horse, you are fooling nobody any longer.
Your anti-Semitic anathemas are wearing thin and your victories are every time more pyrrhic for it is your very behaviour which creates anti-Semites.
Such bloody fools.
By Walter M. Sands, Jr., May 16, 2007 at 11:45 am #
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Well done Marine! Your artical is right on point. I served four years in the U.S.Navy on Submaines during “The Forgotten War”, Korea and did not join any Veterans Organization for much the same reasons you mention.
Keep up the good work, you are a credit to our country and your service to the country is greatly appreciated.
Report thisBy Joseph Goldman, May 15, 2007 at 8:51 pm #
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The fact that Scott Ritter did not report the child prisons has nothing to do with supporting the invasion of Iraq. One can be against the invasion and against Saddam’s child prisons but for another means of dealing with the problem. For Scott Ritter to distort truths in order to press his own political agenda is repulsive. It reminds me of other repulsive individuals (Bush, Rummy, Cheney) who did the same thing to support the invasion. Scott Ritter is no better or worse than Bush on this account. I believe that was the argument made against Scott Ritter by Reinhardt not an argument for the war. Scott has another strike against him. He is an anti-Semite much like the majority of responders to this article who chose to deny the Holacaust and sling irrational criticisms based on hate rather than intelligent thought. Thank you Ardee for bringing this to light. This ignorance is dooming the left to become irrelevant. Where are all the intelligent people?
Report thisBy ardee, May 15, 2007 at 7:16 pm #
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I will not allow this thread to be hijacked into a sidebar discussion of a proven fact; that six million jews, one million gypsies and about one hundred thousand homosexuals were slaughtered in the camps. As a child in the Bronx, NY I knew far too many who wore the tattoo on their forearm to fall for this posters agendised rant. I will say, in my final response to one who does appear to conflate the religion of the jew with the policy of the Israeli government, that the fact that so many survived had far more to do with the rapid deterioration of the German defenses than with the fact of the holocaust as myth. A people who thought their reich would survive for a thousand years also thought that they had plenty of time to exterminate the jewish people. The ovens and gas chambers worked around the clock in the closing days of WW2 and thank goodness that even the efficiency of the German machine paled before the task at hand.
I do not, in any way, support the policies of the Israeli government towards the indigenous peoples of that region. I despise, in the strongest terms, the way the lands of the arabs were stolen, the treatment of the palestinians by the JDL and the govt of Israel and the refusal of Israel to address its violations of international law and the laws of human decency and morality. But unlike Peter RV I am quite able to understand that it isnt Judaism that is the culprit here, any more than Protestantism is responsible for the ridiculous interpretation of that religion by Bush 41 and his coterie of insane right wing christian extremists. I focus my anger where it rightly belongs, on the actions of a government that is failing its people and its neighbors.
By the by it might be mentioned here that Israel and Lebanon are both democracies and are the only such in the middle east. Having been in Israel on three separate occasions I am all too aware that the coffee houses in Jerusalm and Haifa are filled with those who strongly dissent with the policies of their government and will, sooner or later, effect the necesary changes to those policies. That they are also Jews is again secondary to the fact of their citizenship.
Report thisBy Mike, May 15, 2007 at 5:31 pm #
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Amongst the manufactured evidence is the artificially low death estimates given by the war faction, foolishly abetted by Iraq Body Count and one or two others. The attached is grim but necessary reading. It further gives the lie to Iraq Body Count and other agencies who are, willingly or not, underestimating the carnage in Iraq. These figures are just those which have come to the attention of the Karbala authorities.
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20070515125826979C680577
Report thisBy Louise, May 15, 2007 at 2:49 pm #
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Scott Ritter has consistently spoken out against the manufactured “evidence” leading the foolish American to eagerly support a weak presidents desire to attack a basically defenseless nation. For that reason, he has been vilified and denigrated almost non-stop by those who took offense at his fact backed truth.
People so enamored by their fantasy memories of war that they prefer being lied to is sad enough. That they encourage their loved ones to take up arms and possibly die for this weak presidents fantasy is beyond comprehension.
Saddam was a bad man. Attacking an entire nation to catch a single bad man, and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the process was just plain stupid. So like it or not, we are left with the question, why did we attack Iraq anyway?
We know, it was not because Saddam had anything to do with 9/11. He did not. We also know it had nothing to do with his Weapons of Mass Destruction. He had none. Which leaves us with two possibilities.
Oil and Stupidity.
Either this president badly wanted to gain control over Iraq’s oil, or he is an incredibly stupid man. Take your pick.
Those are the obvious simple answers, but there’s more. The wish to expand opportunities to those corporations that quickly moved into position to make huge profits from this war. And the need to justify an out of control wish to be the Empire that controls the world through force.
Those who engage in war-profiteering need no explanation. Their blood-stained greed can be seen by all. Those who support Empire display their ignorance of the human cost of war and their cowardice, having never fought in one.
For a president and congress who are supposed to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and serve the people who put them in office, there is no explanation or excuse.
Which brings us back to the heroes, the veterans, the legionnaires.
They of all people know the human cost of war. They of all people should be outraged at having been lied to. They more than anyone else should see the futility of human sacrifice to support greed and stupidity.
There is nothing glorious about starting a war. There is nothing noble about killing thousands of innocent children. And there is no rational justification for accepting and repeating a lie, rather than accepting you were lied too.
Scott Ritter needs no defense. But, who will defend the indefensible?
The lies that have taken so many lives.
The lying that continues to demand human sacrifice.
The time for excuses has passed. The time for real courage is here.
That courage that will say no more lies and demand accountability.
That courage that will risk being ridiculed and demand no more human sacrifice for oil and profit and stupidity.
That courage that will demand no more dying for the vanity of Empire!
Report thisBy Peter RV, May 15, 2007 at 12:17 pm #
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Reference
Report thisC#69879 Ardee
You may know some “holocaust denier” like myself but I also know a lot of “holocaust peddlers” which are by far more obnoxious species.
We are being led by these gentlemen to accept the most absurd of the conclusions:
On one hand, Germans were fanatically meticulous in keeping record on their crimes, and at the same time equally sloppy in letting so many Jews escape alive, ungassed.
Whoever wants to believe in this nonsense, he is entitled to it. I’m not one of them.
(This is ,in fact, what thousands of Hollywood’s holocaust movies suggest us to accept as the unique morally correct way of thinking).
But, there’s more.
Jews are the most ancient myth-makers and the “six million” victims comes naturally to those who believe that God has promised Abraham all the land between Nile and Euphrates.
Much more recently, Golda Meir, the prime minister of “the only democracy in the Middle East” said that “there is no such a thing as a Palestinian People. It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist”.
And, how about the Zionist slogan “Land without People to the People without Land” which was raging
until it was debunked by the reality- the terrorist atacks from those who “did not exist”?
The latest specimen of fabulation is, of course, our own Paul Wolfowits who bestowed upon our Nation the concept of the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction for which we bravely wage this war ever since.
Why should anybody believe anything these people say, when they lie so blatantly?
If I were a Jew, I would insist very much for my tribe to get out of this dangerous trance they are in (but that is not my business).
By Matt, May 15, 2007 at 8:30 am #
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Neil C. Reinhardt complains:
“Scott Ritter is a low life jerk. I have no respect for him or anything he says!
“He knew about the special
prison Saddam set up for children (age 12 & under)
where they were held, starved, beaten, tortured raped and murdered. Yet he did not want to make it public knowledge as it would further justify the Iraq War.”
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Undear Neil, listen up.
Human Rights Watch (HRW), after an exhaustive study, found that the US invasion of Iraq could not be justified on humanitarian grounds.
HRW holds that war is indeed sometimes justified as a humanitarian intervention, but must be severely weighed against its inevitable horrors in order to be justified. HRW did a study of the human rights situation in Iraq at the time of the US invasion. Their conclusion? This:
“In sum, the invasion of Iraq failed to meet the test for a humanitarian intervention.”
http://hrw.org/wr2k4/3.htm#_Toc58744952
So shut up.
Report thisBy Neil C. Reinhardt, May 15, 2007 at 3:13 am #
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Scott Ritter is a low life jerk. I have no respect for him or anything he says!
He knew about the special
prison Saddam set up for children (age 12 & under)
where they were held, starved, beaten, tortured raped and murdered. Yet he did not want to make it public knowledge as it would further justify the Iraq War.
Neil C. Reinhardt
Report thisBy Joseph Goldman, May 14, 2007 at 10:59 pm #
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The basic premise of the article is right on. The use of Alan Dershowitz’s comments to make a point about the immoral war in Iraq and the human rights violations at Guantanamo is disingenuous. The comments made by Dershowitz have NOTHING to do with these issues. Dershowitz made the argument to address an entirely different topic. Either the author does not understand the point being made by Dershowitz or he is has an ulterior motive. Judging from the well written and persuasive rhetoric I do not think this author can hide behind ignorance. I wonder what else would motivate devoting such a large percentage of the article to simply to denigrate a person on a tangential issue? Is this an ad hominum attack in disguise or are there other targets? Has TruthDig become Fox News using rhetoric to pull at heart strings rather than vetting posted pieces for accuracy? This bothers me so much because I am normally a very strong supporter of the content and platform of TruthDig. It’s for this reason that I hope that people who disagree with my post or would like more information about my argument respond to my post so that I may present an alternative interpretation of this article. Thank you.
Report thisBy AlienTech, May 14, 2007 at 7:28 pm #
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I commend you on your bravery mr.Ritter…
Report thisIt is very hard to recognize the bad you have done in the name of something you hold dear (your country) and require much more than faith in yourself. And it is harder to do anything about it. Especially to admit that last line…..
By Hal, May 14, 2007 at 7:24 pm #
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Scott Ritter is marvelous as usual. Amazing man who has told the truth from the get go about Iraq and this evil, sleazy war foisted on naive Americans with lies from their government. And kudos to him for pointing out the nonsense of trying to justify what our troops have done. These guys have been duped and used, and they need to have the courage to understand and admit that is what has happened and direct their anger at those who have so cruelly used them.
Report thisBy Louise, May 14, 2007 at 4:26 pm #
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I remember hearing my parents and their friends speak in hushed tones about solving the “Jewish Problem”
I remember the collective sighs of relief when the powers that be assisted the Jews in locating on Palestinian land.
I remember news reels at the afternoon matinee, showing the piles of dead and dying in Germany. I remember the German people being marched to the concentration camps by the occupying forces. I remember them in their Sunday best, looking as though they were going on a picnic. I remember them coming back ... weeping and distraught. Some unable to walk, others fainting or throwing up. Learning the truth can be a horribly painful experience.
Somewhere along the way, I remember my uncle returning from the war. Looking twenty years older. Not quite so quick to laugh and joke. A little jumpy. I remember hearing him cry, when he spoke to my Mother. I wondered why he cried.
Later, a friend from High School fought in the Korean War. He came home shattered. They called it “mommyism” back then. We still knew so little about the damage that happens when a good man kills another. Or sees his buddy blown up. My friend died in a Nursing Home before he turned thirty. I often wondered, could he have gotten better if he had just been able to cry?
When those “good” German people were forced to see the consequence of looking the other way, it saved their lives. And eventually helped re-build their national identity. They cried. They cried until there were no more tears. Then they healed.
Perhaps we have done a great disservice to the residents of Israel. Perhaps the tears that spring from remorse are essential to healing the soul. More than that, perhaps it’s time for all of us to get a little honesty. The world at large welcomed the opportunity to remove the Jews from European society and ship them off to Palestine. To ‘solve’ the Jewish problem. Now they seem helpless to deal with the problem they helped create.
Building justification for stealing from one to give to another often leads to a focus on the suffering of the other and ignoring the suffering of the one. And of course leads to an expansion and exaggeration of the original loss leading to the theft. A simple review of history lays out the uncomfortable reality that most Palestinians and Israelis are an incredibly long-suffering, not to mention tolerant people. As are most Iraqis and Afghanistan’s.
One mans ‘law and order’ guy is another mans terrorist. Same here as everywhere. Why does everyone have so much trouble understanding that? Terrorism is a state of mind inflicted on innocents by those who would commit crime. We have it, they have it. It’s like the need for food. Everybody has it.
Just as we have gangs and crime and killers here, they have them in Palestine and Israel, Iraq and Afghanistan. Their killers may claim their crime is motivated by a wish to bring security to their people, but is that so different from organizations in this country who under the protection of law and order shoot and beat and arrest and lock up anyone seen as a threat because they disagree with pre-emptive war, or the notion that our military can actually defeat terrorism?
Perhaps the Legionnaires suffer from selective memory. Or, maybe they never cried. Maybe they chose instead to build a comfort zone of self forgiveness absolving themselves of any pain or suffering they may have inflicted on the innocent. Because there is no question, far more innocents die in war than guilty. And no one should know that better than the veterans of all foreign wars. Their inability to look squarely at the horror of war, and their part in it spills over and shapes the lie that shapes the ‘cause’ their sons and grandsons eagerly march off too die for.
Report thisHow vain is that?
By Hirnlego, May 14, 2007 at 4:25 pm #
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The true agenda for the Iraq war can be found through the neoconservative think thank PNAC. Here’s a short summary of their own “mein kampf”:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html
Report thisBy Christopher John, May 14, 2007 at 3:48 pm #
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I was a member of the American Legion (my service as a combat medical corpsman circa ‘67-‘68 in ‘Nam giving me access). I have stopped going and paying dues primarily because of their continuing “war-mongering”. I support our troops, but not the administration, and not this illegal occupation if Iraq. We were told many reasons we had to go to Iraq, the initial ones were lies, the ones that follow were great media spin to keep the public dumbed down and accepting of new lies. As long as Bush is “Mission Accomplishing in Office” he is not going to quit Iraq. Has he yet attended a funeral of a fallen military personnel?
Report thisBy ardee, May 14, 2007 at 12:56 pm #
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regarding:
C#69454 by Peter RV on 5/11 at 5:01 pm
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“I must be one of those who deserves condemnation, according to Scott Ritter, for minimizing the holocaust.Dershowits will hit the ceiling if he reads this but since he granted me the right of free speech, Ill take it(thanks Professor)
I dont deny that Jews were the main Nazi victims (along with Russians) but I have serious difficulty in accepting the six million version of it…....”
I have seen these holocaust denial folks before and wonder at their ability to selectively filter out the facts. While I certainly do not infer that this person has no right to an opinion, consideration must be given to the tons upon tons of methodical record keeping by the Nazis, detailing the life and death of every jew, gypsy, homosexual et al in their keeping. These records are open to the public and I recommend that Peter take a vacation to Germany and peruse them, it might be an experience that changes his perspective if not his political opinions.
Report thisBy M Vandermeer, May 14, 2007 at 12:51 pm #
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To David, #69372
go back to school, and take a few math classes. The projected cost is not $2,000,000,000 ($2 billion), which make it cheap (in dollar terms, not lives), but $2,000,000,000,000 ($2 trillion). the extra few zeros make a difference, especially to your children and grandchildren when thay have to pay for it. And if anyone thinks the costs will stop at $2 trillion, do a little more homework on past government expenditures, and incidental costs, etc. And that is to lose the war, and that doesn’t count Afganistan, the “hidden disaster” that no one talks about only becasue Iraq is such a mess. And what if(when?) China decides one day to stop loaning the US $1 billion/day, or if (when?) other nations decide to sell their oil in Euros and not dollars, has anuone thought about what a collapse of the overvalued US $ will be?
as Talleyrand said about Napoleon’s decision to abduct and kill a royal rival, “it was worse than a crime, it was a blunder”
Report thisBy Edward Tkacik, May 14, 2007 at 12:17 pm #
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Mr. Ritter I heartily agree with your article on the anti-war.com and as a WW2 combat veteran I have lost confidence in the writings of the American Legion Magazine because of their many anti-American issues especially those of the Zionist’s position. As an example the USS Liberty attack by the Israelis and the Pollard spy case.
Thank you for calling a spade a spade.
Report thisBy Paul Lozowsky, May 14, 2007 at 12:02 pm #
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Tell Boehner & McConnell
The Barrage of Bush/Cheney Lies
Is the Cover-Up To The
BIG LIE
The End Game is The U.S. Corporate Control of 687.8 Billion Barrels of Middle East Oil & Trillions for Mobil/Exxon & Big Oil! IT WAS NOT ABOUT WMD, It Was Not About Saddam Hussein The Tyrant, it Was Not About Democracy For the 28 Million Iraqi People or About The Security for the 301 Million American People OR The Security for the 7 Million Israeli People or The 19 Million Syrians or The 71 Million Iranians CERTAINLY WAS NOT ABOUT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS! IT WAS ALL ABOUT The Bush/Cheney Administration, Orchestrating A War & Using The U.S. Troop Occupation In Order To Seize U.S. Corporate Control of Over 44 Trillion Dollars Worth of Middle East Oil Reserves For The Next 30 Years Plus. Including Gasoline 4-5 Dollars Per Gallon!
General David Petraeus Said,
The top U.S. commander in Iraq, depicted the situation there as exceedingly complex and very tough Thursday and said the U.S. effort might become more difficult before it gets easier
To General David Petraeus & Congress:
Its Not Complex! Its Very, Very Simple!
(Simple Fact #1 )
The Bush/Cheney Administration Invades Iraq Based On Lies To Ensure US Corporate Control of Middle East Oil Reserves & Military Industrial Profit, Installs a Democracy With Bullets & Bombs, Creates an (Oil Rich) US Backed Shia Controlled Government in Iraq, Which Will Force 6 Million (Oil Empty) Sunnis in Iraq To Choose Between Eating Sand or Setting Bombs! Oil Accounts for More 70% of Iraqs GDP and 95% of Government Revenue. The New Iraq Oil Law, Largely Written by the Coalition Provisional Authority, is Planned for Ratification By June. This law cedes control of Iraq’s Oil to Western Powers for 30 Years. The Bush/Cheney Administration is Working Hard to Surmount This Opposition by Appealing Directly to the Al-Maliki Government in Iraq.
Report this(Simple Fact #2 )
Al-Qaeda and The People in the Middle East Do Not Hate Americans; Do Not Hate Our Freedoms, But They Do Hate, Very Much, Unfair U.S. Government Policies, Including Having Our Troops Marching On Their Sacred Land Be It U.S. Troops or Soviet Troops!
To: General David Petraeus & Congress:
Its Not Tough! Its Mission Impossible!
(Simple Fact #3 )
There is NO Iraqi Government - There are only US Backed Shia Iraqi Death Squads Fighting Sunni Iraqi Death Squads! There Can Be and Will Be No End To The Civil War(s) in Iraq Until All U.S. Troops Are Removed From Iraq Because the U.S. Military Presence Delegitimizes Any Outcome! To Come To an Understanding of How Wealth and Power in Iraq Will be Shared, The Political Forces There, Must Measure Their Relative Capacity and Will!
U.S. Diplomacy YES! U.S. Military Intervention NO!
Support Senate Resolution S 759 IS Senator James Webb
PROHIBITS THE USE OF FUNDS FOR MILITARY OPERATIONS IN IRAN WITHOUT EXPRESS CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL
Support House Joint Resolution 14 Congressman Walter Jones
REQUIRING CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL PRIOR TO USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAN
Support H.R. 413 Congressman Sam Farr
LEGISLATION WHICH REPEALS THE IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION OF (2002) AND REQUIRES THE PRESIDENT TO START WITHDRAW
By wangman, May 14, 2007 at 2:05 am #
#69372, you sure got those numbers confused. Total cost of war will be 2 trillion, not 2 billion as you stated. So the cost of the war is not 1.4 days of petroleum usage in terms of cost, but more like 4 years. If you think that anyone thinks that it is still a good investment on something that we could get in the open market, then so be it. We did not even have to go into Iraq to get access to oil because there are plenty of other countries that are willing to sell it to us.
Report thisBy John A Jamieson, May 13, 2007 at 11:55 pm #
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Very interested in all your comments & very much in tune with what most thinking Australians would say. Having lived & worked throughout the Middle East countries, I believe the Bush administration, supported by the so-called “Coalition of the willing” that includes Blair of the UK & Howard of Australia have sabotaged any real opportunity of peace in our time. My son who recently left the Australian military after 20 years service and served in the peace keeping forces overseas, agrees. Kind regards, John Jamieson from Western Australia.
Report thisBy Bert, May 13, 2007 at 3:34 pm #
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Scott, ever since I “supported” you personally in your UN quest to shake the trees in Iraq in the late 1990s, I never thought you and I would be in the same camp about this disasterous, immoral war. But I could not have expressed your sentiments better. We cannot abate our expressions and actions of outrage over this administration’s truly misguided foreign policy that has killed so many civilians and soldiers and inflicted so many injuries. For what? Our government uses the word “kill” as though it is what makes America great. It disgusts me. Today, Mothers Day, must be so painful for the thousands of American mothers and we hear of more young troops killed south of Baghdad. For What? For peace? For freedom? I don’t think so.
Bert
Report thisBy Hammo, May 13, 2007 at 12:38 pm #
Many of us hoped that our Marine Corps and Army would retain honor and human decency despite being thrown into a horrible blunder for oil and profit by the Bush-Cheney administration.
Most Marines and US Army soldiers have probably maintained honor and decency. But, are they cracking and deteriorating in important ways under the leadership of the Bush-Cheney gang? Food for thought in:
“Army and Marine Corps will retain strength and honor after Iraq occupation ends” (AmericanChronicle.com)
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=18005
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“‘Strength, Honor, Compassion’ are words to live by in these times” (AmericanChronicle.com)
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3351
Report thisBy salut, May 13, 2007 at 12:07 pm #
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Dershowitz wants Hamas to recognize Israel. How do you recognize a country with not just undefined borders, but huge swathes of terretories stolen to accommodate European converts to Judaism, all of
Report thiswhom describe themselves as White/Caucasian; yet swear by the Torah that middle eastern land belongs to them.
The man is pure unadulterated evil.
By Winston Smith, May 13, 2007 at 3:06 am #
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American Legion and VFW members must be honoured for their service to their country. However it is a shame that the leadership of the Legion and the VFW permit the Bush administration to use their organizations as a platform to justify the continuation of the wars in Iraq and Afganistan
I see Dick Cheney invited again and again. Yet this man lacks the basic qualifications for membership for either organization, due to the fact that he was too busy pushing his personal agenda let alone risking his life defending his country during the period 1962-1975. Why is he allowed to wear the honored cap of the Legion and the VFW?
The next time Mr Cheney comes to one of these events, shouldn’t he be asked about the dreadful way the Aministration has treated the wounded returned veterans.
Unless the Legion and the VFW start standing up to the Bush administration and demanding fair treatment for the veterans of Iraq and Afganistan.
Report thisThey have no future.
By kevin99999, May 13, 2007 at 2:27 am #
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Thank you Mr. Ritter…this is a superb post. Mr. Dershwitz lost any objectivity long ago…he sees iraq war in the arab-jew context which also explains his support for the war. For Mr. Dershwitz, any one who criticizes Israel’s policies towards palestinians who have been made to live in abject and harsh conditions under its occupation is anti-semitic. By that definition, I am proud to be one.
Report thisBy J Marie, May 13, 2007 at 2:06 am #
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Mr. Ritter, A great article. I’m sure you’ve read the Chalmers Johnson trilogy, starting with ‘Blowback’ but may I recommend it to others here. It is a withering indictment of the imperial ambitions of the US since the Spanish-American War. Well researched and documented and much less ‘radical’ than Howard Zinn, bless his heart. I do, however, feel that we have had imperial ambitions since the inception of this country, starting with Native American Indians. Mr. Johnson argues that merely HAVING a standing army predisposes us to wars of imperialism and so called ‘good wars’. So, why do we need a standing army if we act like real human beings in the world? I’ll bet we wouldn’t. And, a last bit of free advertising for ‘The Authoritarians’ by Bob Altemeyer on the web. 20+ years of testing his psych 101 students for right wing authoritarian tendencies. It’s fascinating reading, and it ties in with many of the comments here. He dovetails with George Lakoff’s work in understanding many right wing attitudes, (and to be fair anyone who exhibits authoritarian tendencies). Please keep writing Mr. Ritter, we need cogent voices like yours.
Report thisBy P. T., May 12, 2007 at 9:50 pm #
It would be interesting to know which kibbutzim Alan Dershowitz (and his groundbreaking legal theory) would have considered fair game for a “legitimate act of belligerent reprisal” (bombing) by the British for the Zionist bombing of the King David Hotel.
Report thisBy gkam, May 12, 2007 at 7:29 pm #
John Raughter’s note shows exactly why the VFW is an anachronistic drinking club of old, self-righteous and feeble thinkers, operating on phony bravado and conveniently-remade memories.
It’s all self-serving stuff, and the rest of us aren’t buying it. I get invitations to join them occasionally, but they wouldn’t want to hear what I have to say about my own experiences in the Vietnam War.
Mrt Raughtrer, where is the intelligence in abdicating decisions of life and death to others?
Where is the honor in killing on command?
Report thisBy tyler, May 12, 2007 at 5:22 pm #
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to jon raughter:
You comment 69419 is so typical of the blind right in that when you can’t come up with an intelligent response or arguement, you resort to mud-slinging. I wouldn’t go around bragging to be the editor of anything with that attitude, its childish and it ruins your credibility.
Report thisBy greenback, May 12, 2007 at 5:22 pm #
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911 Truth Ends War!
911 Truth will deliver a whole new world from bottom to top.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com <<<< start here
In your quest for Truth try to avoid the Tin Foil Hats and their wild conspiracies. Stick to fundamentals like the Law of Physics and a basic understanding of statistics. From that point, you’ll conclude that the Official story of 911 is a lie. The real challenge ahead of you is trying to figure out just who is responsible. The easiest thing you’ll realize is that we need to Investigate 911.
911 Truth Ends War!
Report thisBy Norman Holly, May 12, 2007 at 4:58 pm #
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Empathy here for Harold Schreiber’s comments (#69329). I volunteered for World War II, even insisted on going after they first tried to disqualify on health grounds; then stupidly joined the VFW for as long as it took for me to realize it was mainly a drinking club. Eventually became a university teacher, attempting to promote peace, diplomacy, career civil service and intellectualism. Marched with A.N.S.W.E.R. just before the invasion of Iraq, not because I thought it would persuade anyone in the White House but because I wanted to appear in the FBI/CIA photos to later be able to prove where I stood. But all in vain, clearly. We have become a very hostile empire, a far cry from what the Founders intended. Scott Ritter and Harold Schreiber are, I regret to say, spot on target for where we as a culture are heading.
Report thisBy Howard Kindel, May 12, 2007 at 4:18 pm #
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Thank you, Mr Ritter, for this post. At some point enough people have to have the courage to stand up and say “I don’t support the troops!” or else this kind of imperalist war-mongering will continue indefinitely. We know our leaders don’t mean the actual physical soldiers when they say they support the troops - they mean that they support American militarism. I, for one, refuse to be intimidated by the “support our troops” or the “don’t let our soldiers die in vain” mantra into accepting one imperialist atrocity after another. Just because the Iraq war is worthless doesn’t mean the soldiers “died in vain” any more than being run over by a milk truck makes one’s death “in vain.” The truth is, all deaths are somewhat meaningless and “in vain” - not just those lost in a stupid war.
Report thisBy Alex, May 12, 2007 at 3:29 pm #
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Bravo, Scott Ritter! You are a breath of fresh air in a world polluted by blowhards! From the outset, I have screamed in every arena I could against this war. I have a nephew in the Gulf. He is so young, father of a baby daughter. His wife is scarcely out of childhood herself. I cannot bear to think of the psychological scars this immoral, illegal war will leave upon him, if he is spared death. I feel so furious about what this monstrous, usurping group of murderers who call themselves our government have done, I am ready to leave this country. I have been ashamed of this country most of my life. I was born just before Vietnam and wore a McCain POW bracelet through the last years of that war. I didn’t know who he was until years later. Despite the fact he is so out of touch, just the sort of vet to whom Ritter refers, I am relieved he made it back. We actually made a difference with protests back then, but Americans have allowed the fatcat corporations, who staged their own bloodless coup of deregulation during the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations, to completely lead them around by the nose, or is that by the Blackberry and iPod? I can’t remember a more smug, self-absorbed populace than the one we have now.
To Rebecca, you are more full of crap than a septic tank. Time to pull all that cotton from the crevice that should house your brain, honey. Has anyone else noticed the only people still defending this atrocious administration seem to have checked their brains at the door? I heard a commentator say a few months ago that Republicans and conservatives in general remind him of children, always looking to big Daddy for a rigid stand about all the issues. They don’t care whether they are right or wrong, just that the leader be unwavering. Any intelligent person knows, you must be willing to adjust your approaches to problems based on shifting conditions and information. If George Bush or Dick Cheney is your daddy, then you should go slit your wrists. The only truth being spoken in this spoiled, selfish country stems from alternative media, and Scott Ritter, with his articulate, well-reasoned prose (a true compliment from an English professor turned novelist!).
As many of you have said, there is still too little investigation of the phony terror attacks on 9/11; how long will it be before the second phony attack arrives to plunge us into martial law? Talk about the long, national nightmare! I was a professor at a small college in metro NY on 9/11. I watched my students wait to hear from loved ones, who would never return their frantic calls. I tried to find a friend who could have been on one of the flights, only to learn his college roommate was on the second plane. In the names of those martyred by their own cowardly government on that grim day, the rest of us must get off our collective asses and fight against this rogue administration with every ounce of strength we have. Impeach Cheney first, and let the rest fall like dominoes! Do it today! Scott Ritter for President!
Report thisBy TruthSeeker, May 12, 2007 at 3:23 pm #
Kudos to Mr. Ritter.
One day we will look back at this time in our history in shame. At least I hope we do. And Dershowitz will be seen for the true neocon criminal he has become.
A companion read to Mr. Ritters great essay is The Army of Good Americans, a great read for anyone who cares about this country.
http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2006/01/army-of-good-americans.html
Also highly recommended is Land of the Puppet People and “Enter the Empire”.
http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2006/02/land-of-puppet-people_15.html
http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2007/04/enter-empire.html
Truly outstanding writing, as always, by both men.
Report thisBy R. Miller, May 12, 2007 at 3:19 pm #
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Scott,
Right on!
I am a former commissioned army officer and disabled Vietnam Vet and a retired college professor.
Why do we fail to understand that those who live by the sword die by the sword? We now have an all volunteer military. Every military person in Iraq, as well as other places in harms way, are volunteers. We no longer have the draft to supply cannon fodder. Military people have chosen how they want to live and die. I shed not a tear for them but only for their victims.
Report thisBy Rider, May 12, 2007 at 1:20 pm #
Ironic that Dershowitz entitled his article “Minimizing the Holocaust.” The Geneva Conventions of 1949 were drawn up as a direct response of the world to the Nazi Holocaust, and led by the U.S. and Great Britain, because the Nazis had done these things to the Jews of Europe. If dismissing the Conventions and advocating collective punishment by calling it “legitimate bellicose reprisal” is not minimizing the Holocaust I don’t know what would be. Those Conventions btw became the supreme law of the land through Article VI of the U.S. Constitution when Congress ratified them
Report thisBy JM, May 12, 2007 at 1:09 pm #
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CheneyCo has a plan for the time when Americans are fed up with the war. After the oil law and PSAs are inked, the US will claim that its military presence is vital to protection of the world’s most precious resource. However, troops want to come home (by Christmas 2007 if possible), so—well, look what we have here! It’s a whole cadre of fully equipped totally gung-ho private military contractors!
You want your kid to come home? Fine. Pay the nice mercs.
Report thisBy gkam, May 12, 2007 at 1:08 pm #
Does anyone believe that with the monstrous crimes committed and the scary history of lost civil rights, this crew will ever leave office or relinquish power? They can’t take the chance.
For a while, I thought the Bush Cabal would simply retire to that huge cattle ranch in Uraguay, safe from extradition.
Now, I think that instead, they will engineer another mass-casualty event, declare martial law, and our experiment in democracy will be over.
Report thisBy writerman, May 12, 2007 at 12:15 pm #
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There’s a big difference between US marines in Iraq and SS soldiers fighting in the Ukraine and Poland. For a start marines aren’t the SS, there marines! Our soldiers didn’t go into Iraq with the aim of slaughtering civilians, they went in to save lives and “liberate” Iraq from a brutal dictator. At least that’s what they were told; the marines, like the rest of America were duped and lied to by a corrupt and corrupting group of gangsters in the White House.
If Bush had said we’re going into Iraq because we need their oil, he wouldn’t have had an army! Whilst Germany was already a vicious dictatorship before the second world war began, America is still a democracy. So making comparisons between the US and Germany is a tricky area to get into, and can lead to some pretty foolish ideas being shoved around!
Though I still think the US is a democracy, I’m not sure for how long, given the way things are going. I think Iran is the big test. If an attack on Iran can be prevented, then we’ve got a chance to save the republic and our tested, but still functioning institutions. Only I’m not sure we’ll survive a massive attack on Iran, especially if they choose to fight back! So, the big question for me is, will democracy survive an attack on Iran?
Report thisBy aimrichwalker@yahoo.com, May 12, 2007 at 11:07 am #
Scott Ritter at his finest - Yes!
Dear Scott Ritter,
Thank you for writing “The Good American.” You nailed it perfectly. I have been feeling like I live in an insane world since 9/11. I have only met fewer than five people who know anything. They are following the lies about Afghanistan, Iraq and our soldiers/troops. They believe that we need to be there and that torture and murder are what war is about. I am switching dentists because my dentist proclaims to belong to the military family and believes we are doing a good thing. She says we are there to protect the Iraqis from the bad Iraqis.
We must all wake up and realize that our government is not moral. War is murder. I feel ashamed to be an American. I am old and on my way out of here. I hope that my family and friends know that I know what is going on and do not approve.
Again, thank you for writing so well.
Peace,
Aimee
DataOptions.com
Report thisBy Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, May 12, 2007 at 9:24 am #
DAG 69413 It would seem the Iraqis don’t have access to the info in this Alternet post, nor does anyone else outside the US.
Report thisBy republicanSScareme, May 12, 2007 at 5:19 am #
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There are many “Jewish Nazis” in America today. Dershowitz is one of them.
Report thisBy Dawn, May 12, 2007 at 3:35 am #
Re comment #69370 by Pat williams:
You are so right. It is not just about oil. It is also about establishing a huge U.S. military base in Iraq.(The green zone is bigger than Vatican City)There are fortunes to be made by chosen Corporations (Dick Cheney’s payoff is simply being deferred at Halliburton until he is no longer Vice President and then he will be coming into some serious money) The private armies such as Blackwater are becoming the security force of choice and are making their presence known here in the USA as well. Halliburton has been contracted to build 5 detention centers here in the USA that can hold 5,000 people each. For who? Immigration policy? Detaining children as young as 7 and separating babies from their families? Or are they for political dissenters that can now be branded “enemy combatants” and disappeared because the Military Commissions Act did away with habeas corpus which has been in place since the Magna Carta in 1215.
re comment # 69329 by Harold Schreiber:
“What can we do?”
comment # 69384 by walldodger1969 has the answer in the form of a question—“Why aren’t we impeaching?”
We need to call congress everyday until these war profiteers and torturers are forced to leave the White House. The greatest history lesson we could give our kids is that our unique U.S. Constitution provided a legal method of removing incompetent and immoral people from office. It is called impeachment. It would do our country good to see Dick Cheney, George Bush, Alberto Gonzalez, Karl Rove, Condoleeza Rice, etc. frog marched out of the white House. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. That would be a lesson on what happens to people who commit treason against our country, our constitution and our people.
Call congress. Support HR 333—Articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney. Dennis Kucinich had the guts to put impeachment back on the table. We should use our energy and resources to create a ground swell of public support that can’t be ignored.
Report thisBy Peter RV, May 11, 2007 at 9:01 pm #
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I must be one of those who “deserves condemnation”, according to Scott Ritter, for “minimizing the holocaust”.Dershowits will hit the ceiling if he reads this but since he granted me the right of free speech, I’ll take it(thanks Professor)
Report thisI don’t deny that Jews were the main Nazi victims (along with Russians) but I have serious difficulty in accepting the “six million” version of it.
First, if Hitler wanted to exterminate all the Jews,
he made his death camps not quite so deadly, which clearly denies the famous German efficiency. Lots of Jews survived these concentration camps ( so many of them appeared to claim compensations from the German Government that Finkelstein’s mother wondered “who did Hitler kill”?).
Second, it is known that Germans considered Jews as people who always avoid hard work so they designed those camps under sarcastic slogan “Arbeit Macht Frei”(Work makes free), iron discipline and very hard manual labor. Conditions were atrocious and many died.Others survived. It seems that Germans were mainly interested in work performance for their war effort regardless, of course, of the consequences.( Nazis were obsessed with the concept of social parasitism which they considered as a capital sin.)
There exist some Nazi documents indicating that Hitler’s intention, at one point, was to exile all the Jews to Madagascar.
Some Jews have made a very lucrative business in exploiting these sufferings, milking the guilt out of the German Government.
Of course, the holocaust was also exploited to the hilt when defending Israel’s wrongdoing in Palestine by peddling the feeling of guilt on all goyim. Jewish sufferings always had to be unique and eternal.
Also, Jews, un-generously, largely opposed the recognition of the Armenian holocaust.
Armenians never got a bean from the Turks.
By 911truthdotorg, May 11, 2007 at 6:31 pm #
This quote exlains Iraq and the last six nightmarish years.
Bush-Bones Doctrine: “There’s three things to remember: claim everything, explain nothing, deny everything.” -Senator Prescott Bush (Skull & Bones 1917)
This quote explains how they’ve gotten away with 9/11 - so far.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. -Joseph Goebbels.
Another fake terror attack and martial law is coming:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/09/AR2007050902719.html
Google videos: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition
People, wake up before it’s too late…if it’s not already.
Report thisBy mediamouse.org, May 11, 2007 at 6:16 pm #
My local congressman, Representative Vern Ehlers, a Republican from here in Grand Rapids, Michigan, has started to talk about the war in moral terms. Specifically, he has been talking about how the United States has a “moral responsibility” to stabilize Iraq and rebuild the country given that the United States has “messed it up.” Of course, Ehlers is silent on other moral issues including the deaths of 655,000+ Iraqi civilians, the continued dehumanization of Iraqis under occupation, and the legality of the war. When confronted, he has even dodged questions about the United States’ (and his own) responsibility for war crimes in Iraq (http://www.mediamouse.org/features/050507rep_v.php).
I think this would be a worthwhile article to pass along to members of Congress making similar arguments.
Report thisBy Don Slattery, May 11, 2007 at 6:16 pm #
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This world is in desperate need of more men like Scott Ritter. We have become a nation of sheep and live our lives without thought or care of what is taking place outside our own small cacoon.Bush asks for our sacrifice by asking us to go shopping,while our military referees a civil war.We are sending more “targets” to come home in caskets while Haliburton enriches themselves!
Report thisBy Michael Major, May 11, 2007 at 6:10 pm #
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Scott Ritter’s article is informed by a mindful analysis of the issues and a clear awareness of the limits and consequences of military action. US war planners have a short term political focus and believe in achieving political results rather than assessing consequences. There is no Pentagon department for addressing the consequences of allowing US corporations to narrowly define and dictate US interests.
US policy (apparently unbeknown to the American Legion) is no longer intended to achieve a peaceful world as a basis for securing America’s future. America’s security, following the interests of its most aggressive corporations, has shifted from security through peace to security through belligerence. As you might expect, this tectonic shift towards aggressive militarism in support of corporate interests produces countless instances of civil reaction against corporate plunder, civil disentitlement and belligerent posturing. Each reaction is amplified through US mainstream media to convince Americans that their values and Constitution are hated and threatened abroad.
US citizens remaining unaware that their country has disavowed peace for belligerence, still leap to defend their flag even though it has been taken to camoflage the global plunder of world’s most exploitative corporations.
The USA itself is being highjacked from American citizens and converted into an extensible bulwark for corporate empire. For our domestic consumption threats can be invented to frame US interests as the terrified victims of a malevolent world just as often as the most powerful international corporations need military assistance to subdue citizens and release their resources for plunder.
Unless Americans immediately and explicitly separate corporations from direct access to US military power the Constitution and humane & democratic principles of the United States will become historical footnotes on the brutal path to corporate dominion.
Report thisBy truth machine, May 11, 2007 at 5:56 pm #
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Rebecca, you are morally corrupt. You accuse Scott Ritter of “making up fake information” but address nothing he wrote, instead blathering about Iraqis being thrilled to have Hussein gone, as if Ritter had said otherwise—did you even read his article? Your only purpose here seems to be to justify the invasion and subsequent occupation. What you omit is that “the vast majority of Iraqis” consider the Americans occupiers and want them to leave, and a majority considers violence against Americans to be justified.
The answer to the mother’s question “Why did he die?” is simple—because morons and American exceptionalists like herself voted for and support a chimpanzee with the ethics of a rattlesnake, a spoiled self-centered dimwitted fratboy, along with his dark companion, the vicious and brooding Dick Cheney, and a whole cabal of evil-doing neocons and dominionists. Being morally depraved, she won’t accept responsibility for her own actions, and instead blames those who speak the truth, and tries to give her son’s death meaning by talking about a “mission”, the accomplishment of which would entail the death of every single person that we supposedly freed. Talk to any war supporter and it doesn’t take long to uncover the fact that they consider “the enemy” to be Arabs, Muslims, “ragheads”, “sand niggers”, Iraqis ... all this talk about liberation and freedom is just a front—none of these warhawks, not a one, gives a damn, in their hearts, about the actual human beings in Iraq.
Report thisBy Peter RV, May 11, 2007 at 5:35 pm #
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How can anybody “support” our soldiers after learning that a high percentage of them are sadist
Report thisand criminals and the rest of them are intimidated
cowards who don’t have guts to denounce their crimes?
This immoral war has brought to light the horrendous state of immorality in our Armed Forces.
To blame all on some “rotten apples” won’t do the trick any longer. We have too many exemples to conclude that everything could be straightened by some fake courtmarshals which amount to no more than busting of the ranks or “deshonorable discharges”.
What happened to the time honored execution by firing squads for heinious crimes? (Bush was hanging people in Texas for much less)
Why don’t we send this message to our own troops?
Empty words and patriotic speeches can’t save any longer the honor of our armed promotors of democracy.
By Hammo, May 11, 2007 at 5:33 pm #
Political figures now in charge in Washington certainly do not appear to be pursuing intelligent courses of action ... and, in fact, seem to be making matters much worse.
There are better ways to approach some of the challenges we face, but advanced and enlightened people within the military and intelligence communities will need to take the lead. See:
“Navy SEAL officers report on remote viewing urges transcendent intelligence” (AmericanChronicle.com)
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=18354
Report thisBy Matt, May 11, 2007 at 5:28 pm #
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Dershowitz is all about Israel.
To make Dershowitz happy, we have to kill everybody and destroy every nation that stands in the way of Israel’s ambitions, which go far beyond any reasonable notion of “security” (and are not rightly OUR concern anyway).
If we’re not DELIGHTED to do this, regardless of the extravagant and possibly suicidal cost to the USA, we’re “anti-Semites”.
Report thisBy John Raughter, May 11, 2007 at 5:22 pm #
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Scott,
Report thisAs editor of The American Legion Magazine I was quite interested in your article.
I haven’t seen you on television in quite awhile. I keep looking for you on Chris Hanson’s “To Catch a Predator.” After all given your past, I think a comparison between you and the featured pedophiles on Dateline NBC is certainly more apt than the one you drew between U.S. troops and Nazis.
Sincerely,
John Raughter
By Zena, May 11, 2007 at 5:09 pm #
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Excellent article, kudos! It’s so true…does it make those people feel better when more soldiers die, after losing of their own? That is pure evil….
Report thisBy DAG, May 11, 2007 at 5:01 pm #
The following is an excellent article on why we are in Iraq:
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43045/
The U.S. is a big user of oil and now the world is competing with China. Oil isn’t infinite. You better believe we are there to capture that big prize!
Report thisBy Heiderose Kober, May 11, 2007 at 5:00 pm #
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I take strong exception to the stereotypical slandering of German women who were supposedly seduced by ‘chocolates and nylons.’
After WWII, Germany was in ruins. There was little food because most of the able-bodied farmers were forced to serve in the military and what the left-behind women, the elderly, and children had produced was regularly confiscated by the retreating military to feed the soldiers. Therefore, women often had to choose between prostituting themselves to the occupying forces for food or watching their children go hungry. This a choice no woman wants to face, but for a mother, there is no choice.
Both my mother and grandmother lived through this time and counted themselves blessed because they could make it without having to barter their dignity and values. My grandmother raised illegal livestock in caves to sell on the black market and my mother was an accommplished seamstress and so could trade her skill rather than her body for food. They were the lucky ones.
Please do not belittle the sacrifices women have to make to care for their families in a time of MAN-made war and MALE-dominated occupation. Resistance takes many forms. Survival is a form of resistance.
It’s Mother’s Day this Sunday. Think about what your mother would have done to keep you alive and well during war and occupation! Chocolates and nylons don’t even come close.
Report thisBy The Follower, May 11, 2007 at 4:41 pm #
First, how pathetic it is that our American Legionaires cannot bring themselves to be outraged that America’s young men and women were sent to kill and die in a foreign country based on lies and the pathological self-deception of our C-in-C. One would think that our veterans, having experienced the grisly horrors of war, would be the first to want to protect our youth from an unnecessary war. For all the pride these vets trumpet at saving the world from Hitler, their essential docility here suggests that had they been born German prior to WWII, they would have enthusiastically followed him into Hell itself.
Second, Hitler (and to a lesser extent, Stalin) was a God-send to the U.S. imperialist class. No matter how dishonest the rationale, or how egregious the method used to project U.S. economic power across the globe, the imperialist can always compare it favorably to the Shoah. And, in full agreement, the “patriot” thereby allows others to set his or her own highest moral standard: “as long as I can point to someone who is, or was, worse than I am, I’ll sleep like a baby.”
Ultimately, it is this just this moral poverty that will bring America down.
Report thisBy Dale Headley, May 11, 2007 at 3:39 pm #
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Scott Ritter courageously warned Americans from the very beginning that we were headed the wrong way, but few listened. Instead, too many Americans fell into lockstep behind the jingoistic, false patriotism of the “chickenhawks”. Even now, Ritter is portrayed by the “America, right or wrong, is RIGHT!” crowd as a traitor for telling the truth, instead of being honored as the true American hero he is.
Report thisBy Michael Boldin, May 11, 2007 at 3:28 pm #
The only way we’ll ever turn this mess around is if we have a complete change of heart in this country - a new path in foreign policy.
Only when we stop basing our military in 120+ nations, stop invading countries, stop overthrowing governments, stop killing civilians, stop propping up dictators with billions in “foreign aid”....only when we stop all these things will we have peace and prosperity.
It’s arrogant and immoral to try to subdue Iraq - or any other nation for that matter, no matter what “good” reason that the politicians claim it will bring.
Some reading on this issue:
“Can America Bring Peace to the World?”
Report thishttp://www.populistamerica.com/can_america_bring_peace_to_the_world
By Matt in NYC, May 11, 2007 at 3:06 pm #
I can’t think of words strong enough to condemn people like Dershowitz who use the Holocaust to justify and sanitize abominable crimes committed 60 years after the last camp was liberated. One can only pray that after he dies the six million victims whose tragic sufferings he has so polluted will wreak vengeance on his soul for all eternity.
Report thisBy Bill Blacklolive, May 11, 2007 at 2:44 pm #
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Scott, your article is sound, strong. I wish you could get around to looking at the 9/ll coverup. Many people are. Look at nineleven.co.uk. Eventually this will erase all this official reality.
Report thisBy walldodger1969, May 11, 2007 at 2:39 pm #
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why aren’t we impeaching?
Report thisBy Eric, May 11, 2007 at 2:27 pm #
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The war in Iraq is only partially about oil. The Arabs would give us all the oil we wanted as cheap as we wanted, if we stopped supporting Israel. That makes this nothing but a race war. The Zionists wish for an Israel of the same size of that in the Old Testament (the Torah) and that includes all Syria and Jordan. So all the arab countries like Iraq and Iran that might stand in the way, need to be wiped out by us.
Report thisBy Craig from Paducah, May 11, 2007 at 2:13 pm #
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Scott,
It’s good to see that you’re still speaking truth to power. Your insight is unimpeachable, brave and unfortunately…rare.
However, given the failure of the Dems to adequately do anything substantive in confronting the Empire over the Iraq Debacle, I’m not optimistic in regard to your blunt assessment and warnings.
Good to hear from you and I hope our paths cross again someday.
Thanks
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By nomorebombs, May 11, 2007 at 2:12 pm #
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public lynchings on the south lawn would suffice…
Report thisBy rebecca, May 11, 2007 at 1:45 pm #
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This article is a joke. I hate our phony war on terror as much as anyone, but when you start making up fake information like the author of this article- you’re not any better than the Bush administration.
The truth is that the vast majority of Iraqis were thrilled to have Hussein gone. They are not angry at Americans for liberating them from an oppressive dictator. They are fighting now between various ethnic groups for control of the country. This silly article could mislead people into believing that if Americans left, the fighting would be over.
We never should have invaded Iraq, but lets be truthful about the facts. The war in Iraq is about oil and power- it was never about freedom and democracy. However, many Iraqis don’t want Americans to leave because they know the bloodbath will only increase. Unfortunately, there are no easy answers.
Report thisBy David, May 11, 2007 at 1:08 pm #
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It really has been all about oil, hasn’t it? Let’s see, at $70 a bbl, with the total final cost of the war, including incidentals like vet care to be at $2,000,000,000.00, that works out to 28,571,428 bbl of oil. We use 20,730,000 bbl/day in the good ole USA. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption
I’m sure it looks like a really good investment to, say, a MBA type. Man, what a country!
Report thisBy Pat Williams, May 11, 2007 at 12:59 pm #
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Of course its oil. But There’s far more to it than just getting those 30 year corporate giveaway oil contracts signed. There are permanent air bases intent on control of more than just Iraq. There continue to be fortunes made by a number of favored corporations and their CEOs and other officers. The building of private armies such as Blackwater is another objective. The whole thing is a put up job for fraud and war profiteering from the get go. Coming back to the US, the same strategies for profiteering have been loosed on the Gulf Coast. We can see how it works right here at home.
Report thisBy GW=MCHammered, May 11, 2007 at 11:41 am #
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The GOP’s Commander in Snuff is now their Presidential Lemming.
So how many will follow him over the oil/gun barrel edge? Strange these magnets of mental oddities. And at such great cost.
Report thisBy anonymous, May 11, 2007 at 10:42 am #
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“Troops” is a euphamism for “Bush”.
“Winning” means staying, “losing” means leaving.
Maybe we need smell-o-vision.
Report thisBy Hammo, May 11, 2007 at 10:26 am #
It seems that it would be helpful to take a completely new look at our concepts of intelligence operations and intelligence gathering, as well as the use of military force and warfare.
Thinking “outside the box” could be useful. What we are doing now is not working and is counterproductive in many ways. More on this in:
“Outside the box intelligence is needed for U.S. and human race” (AmericanChronicle.com)
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3324
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“Many forms of conventional, unconventional intelligence can help our global efforts” (AmericanChronicle.com)
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3562
Report thisBy James Yell, May 11, 2007 at 10:25 am #
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I hope Mr. Ritter posted this with the American Legion magazine, as it is clear they need a dose of reality.
We can not claim that service in Iraq is meaningful when we now know that all of the reasons given for being there were a lie. Military response should have had something to do with 9/11 and yet Iraq was the lest involved of any moslem country. Saudi Arabia was and for decades the banker, the cheer leader for a radical and hostile Islam. Switch to Bush walking hand in hand with Saudi Royal, making him look like a not very bright grandson with his grandfather. Consider the amount of Saudi money that has gone to support Bush Family in the past and wonder what that was all about.
We can not make meaningful a service in a corrupt war, sold to the country by a group of liars and military pretenders, with no credentials.
Report thisBy DAG, May 11, 2007 at 9:58 am #
Clarification to #69325
I’m not calling you stupid for I agree with you…stupid to those reading it that think it is otherwise.
Report thisBy DAG, May 11, 2007 at 9:56 am #
Response to: #69325
Yes! Right on! It is “Oil” in a nutshell!!! When bush gets the Iraqi’s to sign the oil bill that gives the oil companies control over and we have secured the oil fields, THEN and ONLY then can bush declare that he has won! Going down any other road is chasing “rabbits.” Its the OIL stupid!!!!!!
Report thisBy Harold Schreiber, May 11, 2007 at 9:32 am #
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Great article Scott. As a former Marine myself, I can relate to your American Legion experience. It’s amazing how many VFW members want to bomb the world. “Turn Iraq into glass” is a common statement made by people who should know better. Is that a way to LIBERATE people? As your atricle noted, there are 655,000 Iraq’s who will never know freedom. They are dead. We killed them. That’s what Marines are trained to do - kill people. Sometimes it is necessary to protect America from an invader - as in WWII. But, expecting our sacred military to build a nation, is way out of their realm of expertise. Then, to say things like”...we can’t lose in Iraq, so we’ll stay until the job is done…” points at the military as the failing institution. The military WON in Iraq. The “Mission Accomplished” sign was correct for the military - it was over militarily in 2003. Now, the civilians who blew it (Bush, Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfield, et al…)don’t have the courage to admit THEIR failure. They support our troops by sending them back into the shooting gallery over and over again. Shame on them. And, Scott, shame on us for not being good Americans and putting a stop to this crap.
I voted to put the bastards out of business. I speak up at the VFW but usually get shouted down by drunk war mongers. Sometimes, I think the world has gone madd. There are so many better things we could be doing than promoting war. Things that would make us proud. The problem is, the wrong people are in power - people who won’t serve themselves, but are all too ready to send our kids into harms way for far less than a “good reason”. They are cowards and they are in charge. What can we do???
Report thisBy SamSnedegar, May 11, 2007 at 8:36 am #
Ritter has a bunch of book contracts; I guess that is why HE won’t mention oil.
You simply cannot discuss Iraq in any realistic way without understanding that oil is the ONLY reason we ever set foot in the place. There are a lot of other excuses used, and some of them sound nice, but if there were no oil in Iraq, there would be no American soldiers and Marines there either.
Dershowitz is irrelevant; HE wanted to go to Iraq to protect Israel from a Saddam who had to be near to being released from the cruel sanctions imposed unjustifiably on Iraq as a result of its Kuwait misadventure which was APPROVED by the Bush1 regime.
Take the next step and ask why we have to steal oil. You don’t need to ask why we have to lie about stealing oil, because to admit it means to own up to four violations of what we deem God’s law, the ten commandments, specifically the ones prohibiting lying, coveting, stealing, and killing. Once you accept oil theft as the mission in Iraq, then you can move off this silly and irrelevant and even nonsensical discussion of winning and losing . . . winning is controlling the oil reserves of Iraq. Now figure out why we have to do that, and you are almost there.
Report thisBy xopher, May 11, 2007 at 7:15 am #
Scott,
Yes. We Americans, military and non-military have long masked what we are actually doing around the world. Vice-President Henry Wallace asked before WWII, “Why are they [Latin Americans] attracted to communism? Because we exploit them.” The horror of the deaths we have caused world wide since WWll to keep “them” in line , by supporting sociopathic dictators, should weigh on us all—why doesn’t it? How about a permanent national group of ex-military to speak around the country along these lines? Imagine if the Establishment couldn’t pump us up for war any more !
Report thisBy Verne Arnold, May 11, 2007 at 4:23 am #
Go to youtube and watch “Before the bombs fell”.
Compare that with today. The good American…we need you more than ever, where are you?
Report thisBy Robert, May 11, 2007 at 3:07 am #
I look at the photo on this thread & I really don’t see any difference between the tactics of our American military & the brutality of the Israeli IDF against the unarmed Palestinian people.
The barb wire, the heavy automatic guns, brutal force & the rest of the kids just stand there and witness the horrors in their country. Almost the same brutal methods or even worse than Israel’s IDF.
Several hundred thousand dead Iraqis with Cheney and Bush still talking about Democracy in Iraq and our CIVILIZED ways.
In the meantime, most of the American people are just sitting back and letting this shameful war just drag on with thousands getting killed on a monthly basis…ALL BECAUSE OF IRAQ’S “WMD’S”!
Most Iraqis would prefer living under Saddam’s time and NOT the current daily nightmares.
Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Feith, Rumsfeld, Tenet, AIPAC & others…are all just sitting on their gold mines & dreaming of riding off in the sunset in about 18 months.
Report thisBy Dawn, May 11, 2007 at 1:52 am #
The most patriotic thing to do right now is impeach Dick Cheney. He wants those 30 year binding oil contracts signed so that Exxon and BP can loot Iraqi oil for decades unencumbered.
Our troops are dying and killing for oil.
They may not know that because they are just taking orders from day to day. But that is the only reason they are there now. That is not a worthwhile mission. They are targets in a war game. It is so unfair to send people into this hell to die.
End the war. Support the troops. Bring them home now. Don’t give Bush one more penny for the war. There is enough money in the pipeline to bring everyone home safely. But nobody should be left behind because they will be overpowered and executed without a chance. That is a criminal policy to talk of leaving troops in Iraq. It will end up being like Vietnam with a huge airlift scene at the end.
Call congress. Support HR 333, articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney. That is the quickest way to end the war. Nothing good can happen as long as Darth Vadar is our president of VICE.
Report thisBy Gaetan Pozsgay, May 11, 2007 at 12:21 am #
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EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS POST. THE SPOKEN TRUTH IF I EVER READ IT. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE BIGGEST BLUNDER EVER. WE ALL IN THE END PAY FOR THIS ONE.
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By QuyTran, May 10, 2007 at 10:02 pm #
This damned picture is a huge slap at Bush/Cheney administration’s face ! There’a absolutely no liberation forces to save Iraqis from devils but only devils have been invited into their soils.
The American prestige was dishonored before the civilized world. This picture is also a huge grave for Bush/Cheney.
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