Certainly, Senator Obarack’s statements to Larry King couldn’t be more correct.  We’ve heard the same old bullshit from Bush since he and Cheney lied us into this insanity.  There is much more behind this than meets the eye and little has to do with keeping peace in Iraq.  But for a select few, perhaps no one knows other than Bush, Cheney and the Saudi Kings.
My own personal view is that it has much to do with the old black gold.  Rather than spending those billions in creating benign energy in order to allow our environment to begin recovery from CO2 from that source, they’d set up platforms from which to assure a steady supply, stolen from the Middle East.  Thereby, setting the scene for unending war.
Now that Americans seem to be recovering from the coma they’ve been in since Bush stole the Oval office perhaps enough pressure will be put on congress to have them take positive action against escalation of Bush’s war.  If they leave one minuscule worm hole, believe me, Cheney will find a way in.
I cannot believe that our leadership believes its’ doing the right thing for our country.  The proof is in the doing and the horrors they’ve committed are clear and unforgivable.

In the 1990s a cabal of neo-nazis who referred to themselves as “neo-conservatives (neocons)” formed an ultra right-wing organization that they named “A Project for the New American Century”. This group of wing-nuts included the likes of Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, Jedd Bush, “Scooter” Libby and Armitage.

In 1997 they devised a plan for Corporate U.S. world dominance with its startining point being in the Middle-east. They wanted a “new Pearl Harbor” to gain broad public support of their imperial plans which they got with 9/11. Now that they see their house of cards collapsing they are reacting like cornered rats.

May Bush and Cheney burn in hell for what the have done to this world.

First of all this Bush was not elected for a second term, the people with money knew Bush would win come hook or crook, and crook is the name for these Neocons, the biggest neocon is Dick “shotgun” Chaney, the congress has to look at Bush and company and know the only way to stop him and Chaney is to go to impeachment, because they have done their homework well and they think all americans are not concerned their concern is with people like Anna Nacole Smith, and guess what, the stations just give the people junk for news, rape, murder and auto accidents seems to be the main concern of news these days.

Fox news is just fluff not stuff.

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

P.S. 9/11 was Bush’s reason for going to a war that Chaney allready wanted from the beginning.

No progress on the war in Iraq. And not a lot of progress made by the Bush administration to achieve the Millennium Development Goals either. The goals agreed upon by 191 world leaders at the U.N. Summit back in 2000 aims to ensure basic human rights to every person on earth. No progress. In Iraq, more than 3,200 American troops have died. More than $340 billion has been spent thus far on the war in Iraq and this year’s U.S. military budget is $420 billion. And yet it only costs $19 billion a year to eradicate global poverty. It is time these stark realities be addressed.

lately i have so many tears in my eyes i can hardly read all the print, i just can’t understand how we let the coporate world take over our country, we must eliminate campaign contributions if we don’t want this to ever happen again, and also enact a law that everyone of age must vote, there are ways to accomplish the above without all the caampaigning and millions of dollars wasted, to get a good person in the white house, i wonder china is getting ready to knock on our door ask for all the money bush has borrowed, since we don’t have it, what will they take? we need much help!!!

old man

I never see anybody write about the cost of the war in dollars. Even with the support of the American people this type of operation is way too expensive. Contrary to many peoples opinion, America has limited monetary resources. We can’t continue throwing 200,000 dollar rounds at 2,000 dollar targets.

While I call for us to get out of Iraq, I am not calling for an end to the war on terror.

The war we should be fighting is one based on intelligence directed small counter-terrorists, roaming the world much like the Massad of Israel. This kind of war we can afford.

It seems no one bothers to ask our pathetic leadership that if progress is being made - how is it that the “green zone” or so-called safe zone has not been expanded one foot since we have occupied Baghdad. The capital city hasn’t even been secured in four years never mind the rest of the country. Just how many flat liners are we allowed to have in the government at one time? We’re definitely over our limit. Congress, instead of sitting on your brains like you’ve been doing for the last six f**king years - WAKE UP! Nowhere, but D.C. does one and one equal three.

I think there’s a few things to consider here:

1.  how to end this war.

2.  how to prevent future politicians from doing the same thing.

Both are serious issues, and neither seems to be at the forefront with the politicians we have.  Phased withdrawal, building the Iraq army, and the like are the “talk” of the time.

Instead, we need to realize that any continued killing is so morally wrong, so injust, that not one more day can be allowed.

How do we leave?  Cut and run?  How about just a nice little walk.  But, the end result is the same.....leave now, and don’t engage in any more killing.  It’s illegal, immoral, and absolutely ruinous for this country to continue the warfare.

An interesting article on this topic -
“How about “cut and walk” instead of “cut and run”?

As far as #2.  That’s a tough issue.  But, I think it starts with taking away the tools that the politicians have used for decades to wage war.  Might be best left for another discussion.

What I don’t understand is how well the troops are brainwashed into believing that if we don’t support the war we don’t support them.

What they are saying is to support the troops we must leave them their for however long this takes.

In the vietnem war most troops only had to survive one tour, due to the use of draftees. Today, if we support the war we may be commiting these patriots to a twenty year career in combat. The chances of surviving twenty years in Iraq are slim to none.

To the troops, You are a precious commodity. We cannot spend your lives on a war which only mires us deeper into a no-win situation. I believe that as long as Americans are on the ground in Iraq there will be more than enough volunteers among the insurgents to keep chopping up our guys.

We are suggesting that we bring you out of there, not to make you look bad, but rather to use you later in a valid winnable war. You are the best trained and best equiped military in the world. Even so, in a ground war you can be beaten over time by an idea. That idea is common among all nations. The idea or perception of freedom, from their point of view, not ours.

Great Britain went through a similar re-adjustment of their self-perception in WWII. They were forced to cede much of their power around the world to survive. It’s our turn to recognize our limitations.

Your Commander-In-Chief betrayed you by using you to enhance his own ego and his pocket-book.

Everything Joe Conason suggests above might make perfect sense if.....the only “players” in this bloody melodrama were the U.S. and the various factions in Iraq; the homegrown junta here that instigated it were actually motivated by what they claim publicly to be; the Zionists, in a lucid moment, were to wake-up from their suicidal “greater Israel” wet-dream; the semi-comatose americanpeople could pull their muddled heads out of their stupifying idiot-boxes long enough to compel a co-opted Congress to choke-back their own well-founded fears and force a real “showdown” with the less-than-legitimate occupiers of the executive branch; the rest of the world remained content to stand passively around while all the foregoing improbabilities somehow come true and the latest pretend strategy in The-Cradle-of Civilization given “a chance to work”; the Chicago Cubs could manage to win it all this year; and, the HillBillary Clintons decided suddenly they’d had enough of politics, went home to Hope, and started hounding Chelsea to give them grandchildren, instead.

Is it any wonder poor boy George can only keep parroting the same stale platitudes, offering the same meaningless assurances, touting the same failed policies, going through the same pointlessly repetitive motions?  Is it any wonder a make-believe world populated by imaginary “individuals” mired in manufactured selfishness and contrived infantilism, and ruled by fear, who all together can come up with nothing but more and more and more and more of the same collective insanity in response to conditions that are genuinely life-threatening and by-now mostly self-inflicted, looks to be on the brink of extinction?  Is it any wonder there are legions of terror-stricken true-believers stuck in the hideous contraption who actively seek such a “final solution” as their only way out of a situation that “....just doesn’t get any better than this,” because it so obviously can only get worse?

All this “whistling past the graveyard” these days might make at least a tiny bit of sense IF....the murderous methods and mega-death means of “modern” civilization weren’t already near the pre-ordained dead-end of a ten-thousand-year process of turning the whole Earth into one “global” boneyard.  Those are all some pretty big “ifs,” fellas and gals.

Here on the Rez us Indi’ns aren’t taking any bets on the chances of our domesticated sisters and brothers somehow beating such overwhelming odds....even though we’re ready and willing to be pleasantly surprised.

HokaHey!

Something to keep in mind is the allegation that the neocons who helped launch the invasion of Iraq, including Cheney, always wanted the US to stay there indefinitely.

That is why, as Air Force Col. Karen Kwiatkowski states, giant “megabases” have been built. The US embassy being built in Iraq is also a “mega” compound.

The war profiteers, warmongers and chicken hawks also want the US to stay there for years ... just as we did in Vietnam, no matter how many US troops or Iraq innocents are killed or horribly injured.

Some say we are repeating the Vietnam War experience in many ways. For more on this:

‘Nam War, ‘Raq War: Similarities, Differences

By Steve Hammons
Columnist, PopulistAmerica.com
Populist Party of America
March 19, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/nam_war_raq_war

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‘Mistakes’ or ‘plans’ in Iraq, War on Terror?

By Steve Hammons
Columnist, PopulistAmerica.com
Populist Party of America
February 12, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/mistakes_or_plans_in_ir aq_war_on_terror

Well duh!  The only way, THE ONLY WAY! we will get out of Iraq, is when the American citizens wake up from their ignorance and laziness and start paying attention to what their government is actually doing.  Does anybody know what jingoism is?  I hope so because that is the whole thrust of the neo-cons.  Jingoism rules!  Noam Chomsky, Joe Conason, Scott Ritter, Robert Schoor, Barak Obama, and many others are yelling and screaming (actually...imploring) America to wake up!  Is anybody home?  Where is the passion, outrage, awareness, the intelligence?  One day the citizens of America will wake up and cry out...how did the Fascists get control of our country...it will be too late...just like in Germany almost 80 years ago.  Truly, we just never learn!

And, mean while Bush/Cheney dream of controlling Iraq Oil which was the primary reason for the mess in the first place, not democracy, not anything to do with national security, but only more profits for people like Bush/Cheney. How ever did Jesus Christ the man concerned about the poor, right behavior, the none militarist get to be the Poster Boy for the Greedy liars, the users and abusers of this nations institutions?

What a shame on this country.

What a clueless man we have as our president.

What a shame on this country.

What a shame on this country to be out witted by men fighting from the backs of camels.

What a shame on this country.

What a shame on our president for lying to the American people from day 1.

What a shame on the American people for allowing this man a second term.

What a shame on America to operate from a base of lies.

What is this man thinking when he faces the flag of the United States to ponder?

I would hope it would bring tears to his eyes.

What a shame.