“But rest assured that there is one place where the former mayor is truly despised: the streets of working-class New York.”

Actually, I’ve found that Giuliani is quite popular in the streets of the *white* working-class communities. For some reason you failed to mention this in your hit piece.

It’s funny how worried the loony left is about a candidate who supposedly has no chance of winning the primary or general election. Well, I’ve voted Democratic all my life but changed party affiliation to vote for him in the primary and there are lots of people like me in NYC. Just wait and see…

It is time to take a good look at this so-called hero of 9/11.  For starters, there is the 9/11 interview of Mr. Giuliani by Peter Jennings, available at http:///www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2005/090405 gotwarning.htm.  Mr. Giuliani said, “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barclay St. which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire commissioner and the head of Emergency Management and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse in 10-15 minutes and finally found an exit and got out, walked north and took a lot of people with us.”  How did Emergency Management know at least 10 minutes in advance that the WTC was going to collapse?  Why didn’t the police commissioner, the fire commissioner and Giuliani immediately order their people out?

More disturbing is the transcript of a Sept. 10, 2004 interview of attorney Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole’s former chief of staff, who claims he has documentary evidence that proves Geo. W. Bush signed an order which authorized the 9/11 attack.  Since I have not seen that evidence, I personally remain skeptical of Mr. Hilton’s claim.  The full Hilton interview is available at http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm.

Ben
Amazing post. Seriously. Funniest thing I’ve ever read, easily, in the past 13 or 14 years. Consider journalism. I’m a fan.

“but I just stop by here from time to time to see the latest topic you good Americans happen to be complaining about, like the rights of homeless gay pets over the age of 50 in dog years.”

Mike,
Don’t waste anymore of your time blogging—-your pet pooch needs some kicking.

Sorry Ben, if I happen to not put that much effort into my typing onto a secular progressive posting board its prolly because its not that important….i know this may be the highlight of your day, but I just stop by here from time to time to see the latest topic you good Americans happen to be complaining about, like the rights of homeless gay pets over the age of 50 in dog years.

“Hopefully, in the towns of most of these liberal posters who feel that any post is wasted unless they prove that they have at least a high school vocabulary.  Maybe then, once an attack on this country kills someone you love, you might be more supportive of preventative measures against a hostile dictator we’ve been to war with in the past.”

So Mike, is hoping that a bomb blows up “only” liberals with a high school vocabulary—-what a guy!  Well, if a bomb is smart enough to attack only those who are literate, the majority of the population in the U.S. will remain safe—including you.

I can tell you post frequently on websites, you learned the fine art of post warfare by attacking your opponent’s spelling errors…as for Bill Clinton, he may never have claimed to be a conservative, but he made enough false claims in his day. By the way, let’s acknowledge one thing here: we had the right to inspect Iraq’s facilities and Saddam, much like he did during the Clinton administration, told us to take a hike. What a great example to set for the rest of the world, one growing increasingly hostile (though once again, i’m sure countries like North Korea are only hostile because George Bush is the antichrist). I am personally hoping we never wage another attack until the United States is attacked first. Hopefully, in the towns of most of these liberal posters who feel that any post is wasted unless they prove that they have at least a high school vocabulary.  Maybe then, once an attack on this country kills someone you love, you might be more supportive of preventative measures against a hostile dictator we’ve been to war with in the past. Ok, now bring on the quotes from various liberal media outlets and quotes from Republicans trashing the war, etc. Thats all liberals know how to do anyway, is point their fingers and complain.

“How about a President that recieved a blowjob in the Oval Office? Aren’t you liberals Bill Clinton Superfans?”
Hey Mike,
You spelled received wrong; and another thing, Clinton never claimed to be a conservative—-he never said that he represented all those good “family values” that you Republicans so disingenuously banter about.

Yes, bad boy Bill was impeached for a blow job; and yet Cheney and Bush get off scot-free after initiating a war of aggression, a crime killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and more than 3,000 U.S. troops.

So who knows maybe Rudi will score a double—he’ll get a blow job in the White House from a new girlfriend,  and kick off a new military conflict.

How about a President that recieved a blowjob in the Oval Office? Aren’t you liberals Bill Clinton Superfans?

“We must try to achieve constructive and compassionate goals through conservative means—jump starting civic improvement and the individual work ethic in Iraq, without creating permanent subsidies. The goal is to get more Iraqis working, especially young males, who are most susceptible to the terrorist and warlord recruiters.

There are many lessons from the successful welfare reforms in New York City that can be readily applied in Iraq. In the early 1990s, New York City suffered an average of 2,000 murders a year while more than 1.1 million people…”

Frank,
How absurd to correlate Iraq with NYC; only someone who is shamefully ignorant, or a complete maniacal egoist would make such a comparison.  “Mr. Rudi,” is the gun smoking mayor who is going to clean-up Iraq; he’s going to single handedly stop the civil war, and will give everyone a job.  And then what, if his ridiculous plans do not pan out, will he bomb Iraq into oblivion and then nuke Iran.

My gut reaction is that Rudy’s militaristic posture, is what makes him so popular with the right-wing Evangelicals—-it seems that these religious fanatics will literally sell their souls to achieve “rapture.”

A thrice divorced candidate who regularly brought his paramour, Judi Nathan to Gracie Mansion, not caring if his wife and children viewed their open displays of affection, only shows what a truly a despicable character Rudy is.  A mayor who arrogantly shows little regard for the housing of the poor and the middle-class; but is only concerned with the interests of the wealthy is utterly contemptible:  “On top of this, Mayor Giuliani’s RGB has repeatedly imposed a “poor tax,” or low-rent supplement, which is now an extra $15 a month for apartments renting below $500. Under the federal standard that paying more than 30% of income for rent constitutes hardship, only families earning at least $20,000 a year can afford to pay even $500, and some 400,000 families in rent-stabilized apartments make less than that. Yet the supply of apartments below $500 a month has been reduced from 400,000 in 1993 to fewer than 200,000 now. Housing at all levels is becoming ever scarcer, and even the New York Times reported last year that the middle class cannot find housing in New York City.” http://www.tenant.net/Tengroup/Metcounc/Nov99/campaign.html

Frank, on second thought maybe you’re right, Giuliani would be a perfect choice for the Republicans—a totally immoral crook, who shows know sense of decency.

In Giulianis own word’s:
In the early 1990s, New York City suffered an average of 2,000 murders a year while more than 1.1 million people—one out of every seven New Yorkers—were unemployed and on welfare. Too many neighborhoods were pervaded by a sense of hopelessness that came from a combination of high crime, high unemployment and despair

“Workfare” proved an excellent method to change this destructive decades-long paradigm. It required able-bodied welfare recipients to work 20 hours a week in exchange for their benefits. In the process, we reasserted the value of the social contract, which says that for every right there is a responsibility, for every benefit an obligation.

As many as 37,000 people participated at a single time, working in the neighborhoods that most needed their help, cleaning up streets with the Sanitation Department, removing graffiti from schools and government buildings, or helping to beautify public spaces in the Parks Department.

More than 250,000 individuals went through our Workfare program between 1994 and 2001, and their effort helped to visibly improve the quality of life in New York City. Many of them moved on to permanent employment. This change from welfare to work did as much as the New York Police Department Compstat program to keep reducing crime.”

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?i d=110009514

Thank you for not forgetting my beloved cousin. It still hurts to read about him and remember his manner of death.
Thank you for telling the truth about this horrible man. It’s frightening to think of this pig, whose own children hate him, could become president.

“The publics right to safe and clean streets for their tax dollars trumps the homeless non-taxpayers desire to sleep and drink on the sidewalk.”

Frank.
Evidently, you are not familiar with NYC and you have fallen victim to all the Giuliani media “razzmatazz”—-even New York State Supreme Court Justice Stanley L. Sklar disagreed with you.  When Giuliani was mayor, Sklar, blocked the administration’s plans to require homeless adults to work or be evicted from city-run shelters.

The ruling, found that the workfare rule was constitutional, but would violate a 1981 consent decree in which the city and state agreed to provide shelter to homeless single adults who qualify for home relief or need shelter because of “physical, mental, or social dysfunction.”

“The decision isn’t about whether work is good or bad,” says Legal Aid attorney Steven Banks, one of the lawyers who challenged the regulations. “It’s about the importance of keeping a roof over people’s heads.” The city was providing shelter for an average of about 23,000 people a night, of whom about 7,000 are single adults.
Sklar, also held that the rules made no provision for people with “social dysfunction,” who may be “unable, as opposed to unwilling, to cooperate with bureaucratic niceties.”

NYC had no comprehensive housing policy, yet the Giuliani administration had spent seven years undermining protections for people who have fallen out of the housing market.
http://www.naswnyc.org/c30.html

p.s. Even Giuliani’s own son doesn’t like him; and Andrew especially can’t stand his stepmother, Judi Nathan.  Who could blame the boy, when he was a only small child living at Gracie Mansion with his biological mother, Donna Hanover, Rudi regularly brought his girlfriend over for a “good time”—you know, Judi likes the “energizer bunny.”

“Andrew Giuliani, now a senior at Duke, spoke to a New York Times reporter the other day who was curious about his and his sister’s absence from the campaign trail:

In a telephone interview yesterday, Andrew, a sophomore and member of the golf team at Duke University, acknowledged having had difficulties with Ms. Nathan, and said that he and his father had recently tried to reconcile after not speaking “for a decent amount of time.”
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/3/14649/28703

Frank—Rudi a man of character; hated by the disenfranchised including his own son.

Terry said “so let the poor, disenfranchised and homeless be damned, as long as tourists have a place to see a Broadway show and the affluent have a place to shop!”

I can’t believe I even have to explain this. Tourist spending and economic recovery benefits society at all levels, silly.  It means more jobs, more income for small businesses, more tax revenue for city services. Economic recovery means fewer poor.  Get it?

As for the homeless, Giuliani got them off the street and required those living in shelters who were able to work to do so, which is not only morally and fiscally right but it may help some develop a work ethic and teach basic skills which they can use to advance themselves economically.  Compared to laying around on the street drinking, pissing, and vomiting in public places, where they are frequent victims of crime and occasional offenders, they are better off in shelters working to pay for their stay. As for those that refuse to work and refuse to stay off the street, they are better off in short-term jail where they can’t drink, are forced to sober up, and get three meals a day until their release. The publics right to safe and clean streets for their tax dollars trumps the homeless non-taxpayers desire to sleep and drink on the sidewalk.

First of all, Giuliani’s not going to be the nominee of the Republican Party—that dubious distinction is reserved for Mitt Romney.

How do I know this? Romney is the favorite of the Bush family, and they still hold considerable sway in the GOP behind the scenes, in spite of Junior’s dismal poll ratings.

Ann Coulter is a good indication of what the Bushes are thinking, she’s been their dedicated lapdog for years:

“What do I think of Governor Romney’s candidacy for presidency? I think he’s probably our best candidate.” [...] “And you have to say about Romney, he tricked liberals into voting for him. I like a guy—I like a guy who hoodwinks liberals so easily.”
—Ann Coulter, speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference March 2, 2007, as quoted by Media Matters.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703030002

Glenn Greenwald at Salon.com wrote recently of Coulter’s importance in the Bush GOP:

“She is the face of what the hard-core Republican Party has become, particularly during the Bush presidency. That is why she holds the position she holds in that movement. That’s why Mitt Romney was giddy with glee when her name passed his lips. He knows that her endorsement is valuable precisely because she holds great sway within the party, and she holds great sway because the hard-core party faithful consider her a hero for expressing the thoughts which they themselves believe but which other, less courageous Republican figures are afraid to express.”
—http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

Also, as Paul Waldman points out:

“So all three of the leading Republican candidates will be working overtime to convince conservatives that they’re part of the tribe. It may not be easy for McCain and Romney, but when it comes to the issues that revolve around sex, particularly abortion and gay rights, they’ll be saying the words conservatives want to hear. Giuliani, on the other hand, simply has no way to finesse what he believes. And unlike the other two, he’s been photographed in a dress.”
—Paul Waldman, “Why Rudy Guiliani Is Destined to Fall,” TomPaine.com, March 1, 2007. http://www.alternet.org/story/48609/

The big bucks from the GOP Corporati that finance the party aren’t going to be flowing to Rudy, so we’ll never hear him try to explain his way out of his hinky post-9/11 business deals, his close association with the disgraced Bernie Kerik, nor why he failed to warn the workers at Ground Zero in the days immediately following 9/11 to wear adequate breathing gear to protect themselves from the toxic dust of the WTC collapse. (Today, many of those cops, firefighters and other workers are dying from cancers and fatal respiratory diseases traceable to 9/11.)

Rudy was laughably dubbed ‘America’s Mayor’ by the NYC-based mass media for simply doing his job after 9/11; as Waldman says, “The entirety of Giuliani’s appeal, of course, is built on the fact that on the day of 9/11, he managed to hold a series of press conferences without wetting his pants.”

No, he’s not a hero and, by this time next year, he likely won’t be a candidate for president either, and he’ll drop off the media radar forever.

It’s a shame that the majority of Americans will never know the real, and really despicable, Rudy Giuliani.

“Giuliani brought NYC substantially lower crime rates resulting in increased tourism and economic recovery.

Frank,
So let the poor, disenfranchised and homeless be damned, as long as tourists have a place to see a Broadway show and the affluent have a place to shop!”

Let corruption flourish at taxpayers’ expense, while the NYC schools further decline,
hospitals decay, and public transportation crumbles.  Yes, as long as the wealthy
prosper—-that’s all that counts.

Giuliani brought NYC substantially lower crime rates resulting in increased tourism and economic recovery. Let the offended minorities and bleeding hearts whine.  Results are what counts, and New York became safer and more prosperous under Giuliani.

Harris, #50647, you must certainly know that being a “scumbag” in no way disqualifies you from getting elected to the White House?!  We love “scumbags.”  The world is full of “scumbags.”  Arrogant, self-serving, greedy, socially irresponsible, ignorant, self-righteous, power mongering “scumbags.”  America has to be led by a “scumbag” in order to effectively understand and deal with other world leader “scumbags.”  There ought to be an International World Scumbag Competition, like Miss Universe, where we crown “Supreme Scumbag”  Can’t you just see the panel of judges?

Rudy is a scumbag. He will never be president nor will he receive the republican nomination. To those families that lost loved ones during 9/111, I would be furious with Rudy. He has taken advantage of his “celebrity” to make millions for himself. Besides, you’ve got to be an idiot to pay money to hear some engage in verbal masturbation. He truly is an awful human being.

Everything Giuliani is famed for, his leadership skills and the way he fought crime, is false. Giuliani alienated anyone that didn’t agree with him. He never spoke to his enemies and considered what he thought much more important that what anyone else thought. Hasn’t this country had enough of a partisan President that rules only with the blessing of a small minority of people?

Can’t we elect a President that will negotiate with the opposite party and come to compromises that satisfy the more moderate nation our country really is? Giuliani is not the person to do so.

Guiliani brought his mistress to Gracie Mansion, the mayoral home where his wife and two kids lived. When a man did’t care his family and how his wife and kids feel, then this man does not belong to, let alone be the candiate for the whitehouse.

When politician profits immensely during and after he/she left office, you know damn well what he/she had done for the ruling class. Both Guiliani and Clintonss belong to this category.

Now the ruling class pick and choose selected candidates for your picking. They did it thru corrupted campaign donations. Whoever endowed the most in his/her war chest monopolize the airwaves. Best candidates aren’t on the ruling class leash have no chance unless voters find out their platforms in their websites. Anyway, if you find Clinton’s cigar affair was bad, then you ought to find out how Guiliani treated his wife before divorsed her thru court of law. The man is a cold blooded beast.

Petty tyrant, indeed:  He was Rudy Mussolini, and thank god for term limits.  I endured all 8 years of his mayoralty, and have no positive words for the man.  Crime began to decline under Dinkins:  Rudy grabbed all the credit.  “My way or the highway” was his credo.  He dumped his second wife not by telling her privately, but by announcing he was moving in with his concubine during a press conference.  He has no morals and no scruples, and he’s even scarier than the Shrub because he is more intelligent.

Oh, yeah, and after 9/11, when Mike Bloomberg was elected, Rudy threatened to stay in office so he could handle the “crisis.”  “The city needs me” he said—or words to that effect.

Well, no.  Bloomie did just fine, thanks a lot.  And the country CERTAINLY DOES NOT need him now.

“Giuliani was the best thing to happen to New York in 50 years.
Minorities who were criminals and able-bodied welfare whores don’t like Giuliani, big surprise. I guess life got too hard for them when they had to start working for a living and obeying the law.”

Frank,
You must shake and tremble with utter disgust each time you enter the “Truthdig” site—-your comment that ONLY CRIMINALS are harassed by police, and that women who need financial help are “welfare whores,” is so demeaning and inflammatory that one could only concur that you are either a racist or someone who is unbelievably misinformed.

Now let’s talk about Giuliani, “your hero,”  who supplied the NYC Fire Department with defective equipment: “Had faulty communications been responsible for the horrible death of at least 121 firemen?

The doomed firemen were following orders, trekking up the North Tower’s stairways in full gear. Exhausted, they stopped to rest between the 19th and 37th floors. Their last communication was the “order to evacuate.”

Police helicopters were blaring the news that the North Tower was ready to collapse and for all to flee the building immediately. The police in the North Tower escaped just in time. The firefighters couldn’t hear the bull-horns and they NEVER got that urgent message from their own superiors.

And let’s not forget his appointment of corrupt officials, Harding a college dropout with no experience in either housing or finance was appointed by Giuliani in 1998 for the post of President of Housing Development Corporation (HDC). 

Russell Harding who was only 38, was the son of Ray Harding, the politically influential head of the Liberal Party, who had helped elect the Republican mayor twice by placing him on the Liberal ticket.

In 2002   New York City’s Department of Investigation conducted a probe of more than $250,000 in travel, dining and entertainment expenses billed to the Housing Development Corporation (HDC) by its president, Russell Harding, during the three-and-a-half years he headed the agency.

Frank, there is an insightful book that you might want to read about your “HERO,”  it is written by Wayne Barrett and is entitled “Rudy!: An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,” Barrett says, “The father he celebrated so often was a pathological predator. His extended family harbored a junkie, a crooked cop and a murky mob wing. He dissolved his first marriage with a lie so he could appear Catholic when he married. The very personal jewelry his first wife found in her bedroom wasn’t hers.”

So Frank, if you’re really lucky Rudy might be the Republican nominee.

Well, we all know the Bush administration caused 911 just to boost Guiliani’s rep among republicans & those undecided who think he is a hero so he could become our next president.
Guiliani left his wife & remarried (how terrible in this day and age) and he is opinionated (how horrible). He did clean up NYC, but at the expense of the poor criminals. As a matter of fact you can go to this site to see a video of Guiliani, Bush and Cheney talking about how they were planning the so called attacks of 911. Watch it before the Repbulicans have it remove!!!
http://conspiracytheorybeliever/asshole=liberal//idiot /shithead
Have some respect for our next president.
Never forget 911, victims & heros alike

RE: Comment #55949 by Kellina on 2/28 at 11:57 am — “Jackie,
Check out this discussion…”

>>>> when I tried to post there

got rejected for “incivility,” why is mysterious…only possible “bad” word was the quote from their excuse: “...cock-up…” rather than complicity.

As for that, “incompetence” is the way all this is being explained, and there’s some truth in that. Both Bush and Blair are useful fools, everything’s really being run by NWO operatives. They use moles to cover up and kill investigations within the security agencies. They use patsies to take the fall for the operations. Seymour Hersch has just published an article on the outrageously extensive off-the-books, black-ops the Pentagon has been directing. It’s only the tip of the iceberg. Some estimate 90% of the terror today is false flag or death squad black-ops/psy-ops. NWO operatives within CIA, MI-6 and Mossad are the chief authors with lots of private contracting, e.g. Black Water, et al. No doubt Giulian got some fine reward for his role in 911.

We need a Congress with the guts to take these bastards down.

to MIKE

Again mike, your reading skills need to be sharpened just a touch.  I did not call you a name, I called you uneducated.  A little different than calling someone a ‘two bit hack’.  There was nothing you said in your first comment that warrants a rebuttal from me.  You offered your opinion with no hard facts, how do i argue with your opinion? Green eggs and ham mike, green eggs and ham.

Jackie,
Check out this discussion on the BBC website; these Brits are furious. An occasional (usually American) writes in declaring their support for the official lie, but otherwise, there are nothing but blistering attacks and unanswered questions for the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_ of_the_conspiracy.html

tyler, you just talked about how i name-called, yet offered no rebuttal but called me names….interesting….haha all you secular progressive mindless retards are screwed cause theres no way a democrat is getting elected…move to Europe since your trying to change the US to that anyway, and save us all from your touchy feely bullshit

Mr. Giuliani stands for all the world to see as proof positive that anyone with name identification, who doesn’t want to work by the sweat of their brow for a living, will run for president!

55823 said it for me.  How did he know that the WTC buildings would “collapse” when the buildings were built to withstand repeated hits by Aircraft?

Can anyone explain how a pro abortion rights, pro gay rights and 3 time married candidate like Rudy has the support of the evangelicals?  Are they selling their souls for the 2008 election?

RE:    Comment #55792 by Kellina  on  2/27  at  6:13 pm — “Hey Jackie, did you see this?
  •  http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/bbc_reported_wtc_7 _collapsed_20_min_before_it_fell.htm

>>>yup - it’s the same video you posted here

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=399439969150084 0360&q=building+7+bbc
Watch it before Google deletes it again

>>> and it’s been bouncing

all over the net all day long and it’s MAJOR - check out the big discussion at http://www.911blogger.com/node/6501#comment — SMOKING GUN - time — TruthDig, better get diggin’!!!!

to MIKE

Are you really bill oreilly in disguise?  Funny how uneducated people like yourself who haven’t the cerebral capacity to make a decent arguement, rely on name-calling as a rebutal. Go read a book MIKE, and start with DR.Suess!

Only the carpet low lowlies would take money away from Tsunami Funds and Guiliani is the lowest of the low among all presidential candidates. I agree whole heartedly that he’s a meanace.
http://www.rawstory.com//news/2007/Giuliani_fee_100k_p rivate_jet_for_0216.html

As a progressive I pray this turd gets the gop nod—what a gift that would be –but the reality is that by this time next year (or sooner) he will be out of this race—he’ll collapse like he did in 2000 against hrc—this guy has way way too many big problems –his decades of hot tempered/insane remarks to reporters, his marriages, his philandering, his mafia relatives, he looks ok to those who don’t know him or anything about him -besides the 911 myth—his gop opponents will change that –can anyone really imagine this guy getting elected? Three marriages? The speech impediment? Just wait until mr hot temper, who has spent the last seven years with only adoring crowds, starts getting hit by real questions from opponents and the press.  We have Staten island to thank for this horror—if it weren’t for their racist ballot initiative he’d never have beaten dave Dinkins

If both he and Hillary win the nomination, it would be Lady Macbeth against Saravanola. what a lovely choice!

Giuliani slipped—he admitted himself that he was warned that the building would collapse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCw

Jackie’s right—he oversaw the demolition of the biggest crime scene in history; all the evidence was carted away.

Hey Jackie, did you see this?

http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/bbc_reported_wt c_7_collapsed_20_min_before_it_fell.htm

RE: Comment #55652 by john torents  on  2/27  at  7:21 am — “You really need to get a reality check.”

>>> and how…

You’re talking about Mr. Clean, who, for all his tough posturing on crime, directed the thorough and absolutely illegal scrubbing of the most heinous crime scene in American history. That’s right, 911 is the key, the lynch-pin to the whole house of cards; from the destruction (in WTC 7) of most of the files pertinent to the investigation of the Pentagon’s unaccounted $4,000,000,000,000 + change, to Silverstein’s handful of billions in “windfall,” to the pretext for an endless War of Terror, Giuliani was the “go to guy!”

The bottom line on Giuliani: he is an enthusiastic supporter of George Bush and the war in Iraq. If Americans vote for him, knowing that he will simply continue with the disastrous Bush foreign policy, they’ll deserve what they’ll get.

Story in “The Carpetbagger Report” about what is contained in La Giuliani’s speaking contracts.

Link

I apologize to all the minorities or secular progressives that have posted thus far, including the distinguished class at the Metropolitan College and its current drug-infested population, but your minority hopes and dreams of Obama getting elected are slim to none. Same with Hollywoods obsession with Clinton and Gore. Deal with it. It’s about time we had a President that is tough on minorities WHO INSIST ON BREAKING THE LAW. What this two-bit hack writer neglected to mention is prolly half of his classroom full of “educated people” prolly have been arrested due to Giuliani’s crackdown on drugs. Personally, I’m probably not going to trust the opinion of a bunch of kids in a Urban Studies classroom.  Guess thats why i’m voting for Giuliani, I’m a fan of profiling…Hey hack, when you teach a Business class at your ghetto college with an even mix of black and white students, maybe i’ll pay attention…probably not though, since all those kids get their news from Jon Stewert and Stephen Colbert…Stop listening to pissed off liberals that would fit right at home in communist Russia, and Vote Giuliani 08

The Onion: Giuliani to run for President of 9/11
(From the Feb. 21 edition of The Onion)

“NEW YORK—At a well-attended rally in front of his new Ground Zero headquarters Monday, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani officially announced his plan to run for president of 9/11.

“My fellow citizens of 9/11, today I will make you a promise,” said Giuliani during his 18-minute announcement speech in front of a charred and torn American flag. “As president of 9/11, I will usher in a bold new 9/11 for all.”

If elected, Giuliani would inherit the duties of current 9/11 President George W. Bush, including making grim facial expressions, seeing the world’s conflicts in terms of good and evil…

“Let us all remember how we felt on that day, with the world watching our every move, waiting on our every word,” said Giuliani, flanked by several firefighters, ex-New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, and Judith Nathan, his third wife. “With a campaign built on traditional 9/11 values, and with the help of every citizen who believes in the 9/11 dream, I want to make 9/11 great again.”

According to Washington–based political analyst Gregory Hammond, Giuliani’s candidacy “should not be underestimated.”

“Sure, he has no foreign or national policy experience, and both his personal life and political career are riddled with scandal,” said Hammond. “But in the key area of having been on TV on 9/11, the other candidates simply cannot match him. And as we saw in 2004, that’s what matters most to voters in this post-9/11 world.”

[...]

Giuliani’s pro-9/11 message seems to be resonating with potential voters. Said Ames, IA voter Alan Benoit: “I remember seeing Rudolph Giuliani’s face, on television, saying reassuring things during a highly emotional moment filled with fear and confusion. He’s got my vote.”...

Giuliani said it is too early to discuss potential running mates, though he refused to rule out the possibility of naming a twisted, half-melted aluminum beam, an FDNY ball cap, or even John McCain. . .

“Letting 9/11 fall into the hands of the Democrats in 2008 would be nothing short of a national tragedy,” Giuliani said. “Ever since 9/11 was founded that fateful day on 9/11, 9/11 has stood for one thing: 9/11.”

Giuliani was the best thing to happen to New York in 50 years.

Minorities who were criminals and able-bodied welfare whores don’t like Giuliani, big surprise. I guess life got too hard for them when they had to start working for a living and obeying the law.

I lived through the Koch, Dinkins, Giuliani, and Bloomberg years.  First of all, Dinkins was in for one term, sunk under the weight of all those terms Koch served, when everyone in the admin was indicted except Koch.  Such corruption.  Dinkins was the unfortunate heir to that sewer, and paid for it.  Then enter Giuliani.  Giulianus, as any semi-liberal person called him.  Ask about the disappeared homeless.  Ask about the prison sentences for victimless crimes.  Ask about the police state that burgeoned, the dozens (hundreds) of unarmed black men and children shot by trigger-happy cops.  Then comes 9/11 and he’s treated as a hero because he didn’t react like a raving lunatic.  Since then he’s cashed in bigtime on the disaster. 

Giuliani is a menace, one of the more dangerous political maniacs (and in our current culture, that’s really saying something).  My dear heaven, I’d almost prefer Bush to Giuliani!  But neither should have any place in our political life.  As for john torents’s comment: yes, NYC was pretty dingy, but a fascist police state is not the answer.  Giuliani knows one way to govern: the rule of force and everything nice for the clean white folks and nothing for the rest.

And you’ll notice I’m not bringing up the closet-case transvestite thing, his sordid personal life, the colon cancer, etc.  Oh, hell, to get this guy out of politics, let’s bring up everything!  He’s a homophobe closet-case transvestite!  And really ugly!

“Alarm progressives?”

What a laugh.  He’s a Republican, isn’t he?  Until they, as a party, show their willingness to undo even just 10% of the damage they’ve done in the past six years, progressives don’t need to know what name precedes the ” - R” to be “alarmed” at the prospects of that candidate’s election. 

To even suggest that a Republican candidate might possibly be acceptable to progressives is to do the PR work of the Republican Party for them.

Unfortunately, the reality check offered by this article is lost on Mr.Torents #55652, who buys the cesspool Faux News version of Giuliani’s actual race and class polarizing behavior in office. The 1993 NYC Giuliani was elected to lead as Mayor by 28% of the electorate, was emerging from a national recession that cost Bush Sr. the Presidency, and with the receding of the crack epidemic experienced a 3 year/16% reduction of crime under Dinkins.
The city’s resurgent economy was led by the national trends under Clinton, the dotcom bubble, and a host of other economic factors, next to nothing Giuliani did, (including the handover a NYC owned TV frequency to Murdoch, and the Times Square building frenzy, initiated years earlier by Koch and Dinkins.) Corpoprate welfare added some stimulus, certainly, and that’s where Giuliani’s pandering reigned supreme. Poverty levels barely changed, homelessness increased to it’s hightest level ever, soup kitchens were overwhelmed and Giuliani’s approval levels plunged, even among his white petit- bourgeois base. And then 9/11, and the ascension to secular sainthood pushed by the media frenzy, uncritical adulation really, the near universal myth that Giuliani actually did something other than appear on tv and give a face to a gov’t that was functioning, albeit without an Emergency Operations Center.
Outraged by Nazi propaganda John? See this film “Giuliani Time” and it’s broad range of “opposing” viewpoints from the Manhattan Institute, to the Mayor himself, who declined to cooperate. Read Wayne Barrett’s “Grand Illusion” and get a reality check regarding Giuliani’s criminal negligence before and on 9/11. Ask the firefighters who had the wrong radios, ask the victim families who witnessed Giuliani’s appearence before the 9/11 Comission and was not interrogated…Get the dvd John, screen it carefully and take notes, then let’s discuss “pseudo-documentaries”
particularly ones you have not seen.

Another story I did, my first in fact for WBAI, began with the soundbite: “There’s a for sale sign outside City Hall.” My story was about an attorney named Juntika who spent $35,000.00 of his own money for a referendum that would limit campaign contributions to $100.00. He successive collected the thousands of sgnatures necessary to get the referendum on the ballot. However, Mayor Mussolini sued to get it off the ballot before the election, and his money and the referendum went down the drain.

Statistic show that the drop in crime rates in American cities in the 90s is directly connected to Roe vs. Wade in 1973. It turns out that many women who choose to get an abortion do so for good reason: they aren’t able to be the parent they know they need to be to raise a well-balanced, healthy, happy child. Thus the argument the Guiliani had anything to do with cleaning up crime is non-sense; it happened every where in the country simultaneously.

Youi really need to get a reality check. NYC was turning into a cesspool every day and under Dinkins the place was dangerous, dirty and about to go bankrupt.

Guiliani brought the city back == brought back the tourists and revitalized the economy. That is the type of actions that helps the lower income groups—not pandering to them.

We learned the Nazis used to make propaganda films and were outraged. Well, these pseudo-documentaries, ie Colombine, Farenhit 911 are not different—there is no opposing viewpoint to give the viewer a chance to decide for themselves.

During Giuliani time in NYC, someone I met briefly while waiting in line at a housing authority, called him Mayor Mussolini, a term that fit like that proverbial glove. During his reign of terror in NYC, I was a news correspondent for Pulblic Radio station WBAI. One of my first stories was about Giuliani’s policies with the homeless. Yes, he certainly did clean up the streets of NY by arresting the homeless and giving them the option of moving to a warm grate on the streets of the Bronx or other points out of sight, or goiing to jail. The soundbite for the story came from a soup kitchen employee warning the many lunchtime eaters: “Last chance to get your bread and butter!”

Giuliani, no matter how much he and his minions push the 9/11 image, has a major and permanent red flag in his GOP credentials: he embarassed the Busherie by suggestsing Bernie Kerik as head of homeland security. When his background came to the fore, Bernie quickly and conveniently discovered a minor (and probably phony) excuse to withdraw his name, but the damage had been done. It’s not the kind of thing Karl Rove or the Bush clan will forgive or forget. Giuliani may get numbers in the early polls, but he’ll get no backing from the back-room pols.

As someone who lived in Manhattan during part of Guiliani’s pre-9/11 reign, I can attest to his pettiness, arrogance, hatred of people of colour and “anything a cop does is OK by me” views and attitude. Several news outlets have reported that Guiliani is confining his campaigning to hand-picked audiences of supporters as a tactic to avoid citizens who might ask embarassing questions or—possibly worse—ask an embarassing question that will set off his hair-trigger temper and send him into a name-calling tyraid.

Giuliani was in on 9/11. His emergency operations were housed in WTC7, but ahead of time he moved the emergency operations elsewhere (by the river). Why? Because he knew ahead of time what would happen.

See this video—the BBC knew ahead of time that WTC7 was going to collapse!

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=399439969150 0840360&q=building+7+bbc

Watch it before Google deletes it again!