Thank you and God bless you, Mr. Gimble.

Let’s all stand up and say, “enough” - enough of the lies, the BS, the dumbing us down so those running this sloppy show can make bazilliions off us while our sons and daughters die for what?

Greed.

Thank God for Mr. Gimble.  I truly believe that there is a very large concerted effort behind everything since 9/11/01.  We have not received any explaination that explains how they could have fallen in 10 seconds.

A friend sent me this about Nicholas Rockerfeller & a cashless society:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/348680.shtml

Thank you Mr Gimble for being forthright, honest and courageous.

Cheney Vader and associated neo-cons have not learned their lesson from the ‘office of special plans’ that was set up to create propoganda in the run up to the Iraqi invasion.

The neo-cons have a similar organization up and running now for the ‘regime change’ that they want in Iran…

The new propaganda office is called ‘The Iran-Syria Policy and Operations Group.’ ISOG for short. ISOG is managed day to day by David Denehy. Mr Denehy recently said ‘sometime early this year I will be moving to the office of the Vice President.’

In addition to ISOG, the pentagon has set up a six person Iranian Directorate in the office of the Sec Defense. Three of the six member group formerly worked in the discredited ‘Office of Special Plans.’

Yogi would say, ‘Sounds like De Javu all over again.’

Why is this just now being brought to the light after such a long time?  Feith as undersecretary of Defense for policies was given specific authorization by those over him, such as Rumsfeld to gather that phony info and to pass it on as fact, which in itself was deliberate deception since he managed this by avoiding intel compiled by either the CIA or other intelligence agencies who could not support his analysis.  Feith, working with his aides considered the bogus info as simply an alternative analysis to that of the other agencies, which to me, was an outright act of treason and should be treated as such after the fact.  How could he, and those who gave him authorization, treat such a serious matter as though it meant nothing to the rest of the nation or even how it would impact on our allies, or the price we would be caused to pay due to their scam to induce us into fighting a bogus war.

This information (and much more) has been available since mid-2004 even in the MSM. For example, “The Lie Factory” by Robert Dreyfuss and Jason Vest:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html

describes the Rumsfeld-Cheney-Feith, et.al. deceptions in great detail; and even Newsweek provided much the same story somewhat later. No one paid any attention.

So what happens now? Will the Dems pass up this moment of possibility or will they actually have the backbone to confront the Bush administration in a meaningful way?

Given recent political history, I’m not holding my breath.

Lying about an affair is a Crime and Misdemeanor against the State.

Lying about the need to wage a preemptive war,
the death’s of 3200 Servicemen,
25,000 wounded,
650,000 Iraqi’s “Liberated” from thier lives
1 1/2 million refugees

That - is merely “Inappropriate.”

The readers here are very astute, the question is what is going to be done about the deliberate production of “inappropriate” intelligence analysis that led this country to a disastrous war.  Maybe a resolution of “Really Serious Annoyance” from Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi?
For the record though as some have intimated there is a difference between the intelligence and analysis that was produced and what George Tenet, Richard Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld whose Defense Department controls the vast majority of intelligence monies, allowed to reach congress.  Rumsfeld and Cheney’s old shadow intelligence and stove-piping tricks that they used to, in large part, manufacture the cold war.  Not excusing the legislators like most of you I could tell the Iraq claims were crap from my living room but that is apparently the fact.
And by the way, as I understand it since 2000 the DoD has “lost” in excess of three trillion dollars not one trillion.  If this was a civilized country the entire leadership of the Department of Defense would be dragged out of their offices this afternoon with all their shiny buttons and given the traitor’s reward.

“Inapproriate but not illegal”. Entertaining. What in heavens name is illegal that ought to be when it comes to Der Fuehrer and his cronies at the Wolfsschanze? Not torture, not the excision of habeus corpus, not crimes against peace, nothing. And how might something along these lines be made illegal today? Only by Der Fuehrer himself in a signing statement, it would seem.

Hans Frank, National Socialist Minister of Justice hung at Nuremberg in 1946, once said of another dictator, “Hitler is the law and the law is Hitler”. I really can’t see much of a difference between Gonzalez and Frank as to perspective, truthfully.

John Lowell

And?? People are supposed to be surprised by this report? I concluded from the start that the supposed conspiracy between the secular state and the devout, both being “against our freedoms” was bogus. Yeah, so Gimble comes out and says what I suspect thousands, perhaps millions have always known, (I doubt that I am the only person with a b.s. detector). Yes, it is nice to have the truth documented, but in the end this will probably serve to get the Bush hierarchy off the hook. Feith was just doing his job - manufacturing evidence.

… against the consensus of the intelligence community.

So are those who were vilified by war supporters and pilloried in the press due an apology? Who will give it?

I am always mystified when reports of this nature surface and the media (including truthdig) act as if the truth was never known.

This is all fine and dandy but unless someone can produce a stained dress, who cares?

Two points:
My conspiracy theory brain tells me this is the first step in setting up someone (Feith?) to take the fall for bush and cheney in this tragic reality they’ve unleashed. Then this little tag team can throw up their hands and say, “My my my, see! We didn’t KNOW!” They’ll claim complete innocence because, after all, they just presented to the ‘merican people the dire information they were given.

Point two is that nowhere have I read anything about who authorised (ordered?) Feith to do what he did.

Almost honest, but “ deliberately bogus, false,misleading,untruthful,lying, deceptive, etc “ would have been more “appropiate”. Washington is filled with consumate liars, thus without any credibility, starting with Bush.

“...A report by the Pentagon inspector general has finally confirmed that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s intelligence office cooked up a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda to help justify an unjustifiable war..."-NYT editorial

No shit, Dick Tracy?

They probably did it at Cheney’s behest . . . he cooked up a link between Mo Atta and an Iraqi security officer in Prague . . . remember?

The real question is whether Mo Atta himself had any viable links to al Qa’ida . . . I have yet to see one single piece of evidence which makes any one of the 19 identified hijackers a member of anything called al Qaeda. Oh, it’s easy enough to say that they MUST have been members, and that bin Laden was responsible for their tasking, but there has been no real proof offered of that either. I would also submit that Moussaoui (the 20th hijacker?) has not been linked to al Qaeda, though HE apparently claimed that he was a member. How does one go about proving that he is a member of a secret organization which remains secret because it cannot ever be proven who belongs to it?

One of my list of possibilities is that no such organization exists and/or ever existed, but both the terrorists and the hunters USE the name to identify a will-o-the-wisp enemy. Think about it: John O’Neill (FBI counterterrorism chief) made up the name to put a face on his terrorist enemies, and bin Laden adopted it so as to send out people who CLAIMED to belong to such an organization to lead the hunters away from the actual terrorist cells.

Oh and by the way . . . the war WAS justified: it’s only that if we do not steal control of SOMEONE’S oil then our economy goes into the tank and we do an Argentina/Enron adios. We can’t SAY that because we would also be admitting that we covet, lie, murder, and steal.

So, what are they going to be doing about it?
How many people are going to get fired/impeached/arrested/dismissed over this entire thing? Iraq’s got oil, we need oil, to a cynical eye everything in between looks like filler and advertising…

..."What I saw was aberrant, pervasive and contrary to good order and discipline,” Kwiatkowski wrote. “If one is seeking the answers to why peculiar bits of ‘intelligence’ found sanctity in a presidential speech, or why the post-Saddam (Hussein) occupation (in Iraq) has been distinguished by confusion and false steps, one need look no further than the process inside the Office of the Secretary of Defence” (OSD).

Kwiatkowski went on to charge that the operations she witnessed during her tenure in Feith’s office, and particularly those of an ad hoc group known as the Office of Special Plans (OSP), constituted “a subversion of constitutional limits on executive power and a co-optation through deceit of a large segment of the Congress.  ....”
Air Force Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski
see War Critics Zero In on Pentagon Office
By Jim Lobe
Inter Press Service News Agency

Tuesday 05 August 2003

THIS IS AN OLDE STORY--WHERE IN HELL WAS THE REST OF THE PRESS AND THOSE WHO ARE SUPPOSE TO REPRESENT US

THESE VERY SAME PEOPLE, OUR GOVERNMENT AND ITS SERVANT PRESS, IS ALSO “SELLING” US DOWN THE RIVER BY ACTIVELY PROMOTING THE ROOT CAUSES OF THE ECOSYSTEM COLLAPSE--A TERM THEY CANNOT GET OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS

jon
Connecting the dots: From human behaviors to Ecosystem Collapse
http://StudentsForTheEarth.org

There have been many suspicious irregularities in the intelligence gathering situations involving 9/11, the invasion of Iraq and the occupation of Iraq.

Were they “mistakes” or “plans?”

This question is worth investigating. For more on these questions, see:

‘Intelligence failures’ prior to 9/11, Iraq war: Planned strategies?

Steve Hammons
American Chronicle
October 31, 2005

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle. asp?articleID=3367

All of know this to be true.  Only the staunch idiots that support Bush would think this information as not being true.  The real question is what to do about it.  These lies have cost the USA dearly in lives and treasury.  Is no one going to be held accountable?

Headless

“OIG reported the following accomplishments for the six-month period from April 1, 2006, to September 30, 2006:
$1.9 billion returned to the U.S. Government through investigative efforts, to include:
$1.6 billion in civil judgments
$20.9 million in criminal judgments
$335.6 million in administrative judgments
177 criminal indictments
139 criminal convictions
$20.9 billion in monetary benefits achieved through audit reports”

The above figures are probably just the tip of the melting DOD iceberg.

According to Gimble, the analyses about the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda from Feith’s office was “inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community”—-a diplomatic way of saying that the information presented was bogus—-there was NO rationale for invading Iraq so evidence was manufactured.

Gimble corroborated what we already know—-the invasion of Iraq was illegal and those involved in its initiation are criminals.

Where’s Bush ? Why did information only go to NSC and Cheney but not the King ?

Was the King a scarecrow so they passed by him without a word ?