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Molly Ivins: Stand Up Against the ‘Surge’

Posted on Jan 11, 2007

By Molly Ivins

The purpose of this old-fashioned newspaper crusade to stop the war is not to make George W. Bush look like the dumbest president ever. People have done dumber things. What were they thinking when they bought into the Bay of Pigs fiasco? How dumb was the Egypt-Suez war? How massively stupid was the entire war in Vietnam? Even at that, the challenge with this misbegotten adventure is that we simply cannot let it continue.

It is not a matter of whether we will lose or we are losing. We have lost. Gen. John P. Abizaid, until recently the senior commander in the Middle East, insists that the answer to our problems there is not military. “You have to internationalize the problem. You have to attack it diplomatically, geo-strategically,” he said.

His assessment is supported by Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the senior American commander in Iraq, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who only recommend releasing forces with a clear definition of the goals for the additional troops.

Bush’s call for a “surge” or “escalation” also goes against the Iraq Study Group. Talk is that the White House has planned to do anything but what the group suggested after months of investigation and proposals based on much broader strategic implications.

About the only politician out there besides Bush actively calling for a surge is Sen. John McCain. In a recent opinion piece, he wrote: “The presence of additional coalition forces would allow the Iraqi government to do what it cannot accomplish today on its own—impose its rule throughout the country. ... By surging troops and bringing security to Baghdad and other areas, we will give the Iraqis the best possible chance to succeed.” But with all due respect to the senator from Arizona, that ship has long since sailed.

A surge is not acceptable to the people in this country—we have voted overwhelmingly against this war in polls (about 80 percent of the public is against escalation, and a recent Military Times poll shows only 38 percent of active military want more troops sent) and at the polls. We know this is wrong. The people understand, the people have the right to make this decision, and the people have the obligation to make sure our will is implemented.

Congress must work for the people in the resolution of this fiasco. Ted Kennedy’s proposal to control the money and tighten oversight is a welcome first step. And if Republicans want to continue to rubber-stamp this administration’s idiotic “plans” and go against the will of the people, they should be thrown out as soon as possible, to join their recent colleagues.

Anyone who wants to talk knowledgably about our Iraq misadventure should pick up Rajiv Chandrasekaran’s “Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone.” It’s like reading a horror novel. You just want to put your face down and moan: How could we have let this happen?  How could we have been so stupid?

As The Washington Post’s review notes, Chandrasekaran’s book “methodically documents the baffling ineptitude that dominated U.S. attempts to influence Iraq’s fiendish politics, rebuild the electrical grid, privatize the economy, run the oil industry, recruit expert staff or instill a modicum of normalcy to the lives of Iraqis.”

We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war. Raise hell. Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous. Make our troops know we’re for them and trying to get them out of there. Hit the streets to protest Bush’s proposed surge. If you can, go to the peace march in Washington on Jan. 27. We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, “Stop it, now!”

To find out more about Molly Ivins and see works by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.

Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.

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By Bukko in Australia, February 2, 2007 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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Erik Taylor, I’d rebut your ludicrous positions but it’s not worth the time it would take at the keyboard. Just one point: the VE and VJ days you talk about? America got to them in less time than it’s been fighting to keep control of the Babylon oil colony. In longer than America was involved in WW II, it can’t even make it safe to drive 10 miles from Baghdad Airport to the Crusader castle known as the Green Zone. Your president has cocked everything up, and will continue to do so. Forever.

If you like it so much, why don’t you go? Or if they’re old enough, send your sons. The Iraq occupation is worth them dying for, isn’t it?

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By Skruff, February 2, 2007 at 2:36 pm Link to this comment
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Comment #51271 by Erik Taylor on 2/02 at 9:28 am says in essence:

The WW II generation was “united”

Hummm?  That isn’t the way I remember it.  The Republican isolationists had to be dragtged kicking and screaming into WW II….. Even today they rail about a Roosevelt conspiricy around Pearl…

Thems that don’t learn history, condemed to repeat same.

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By Erik Taylor, February 2, 2007 at 10:28 am Link to this comment
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It is 1942 in America—we just lost to the Germans in North Africa at Kasserine Pass.  We had been soundly beaten by the Japanese in the Philippines.  It all began with our Pacific Fleet being destroyed at Pearl Harbor.  America was in retreat in 1942—a very bad year.  Iraq setbacks pale in comparison.

I seem to recall us celebrating VE (Victory in Europe) and VJ (Victory against Japan) day in 1945. 

The reason:  Nothing can defeat a united free people—nothing.  Our fathers and grand fathers also understood that victory was not easily won—it took the will and the conviction to pursue it.  We used to have that will in America.  We also were united.  However, after four years of defeatism led by primarily partisan Democrats, but also by weak Republican leadership, fueled by journalists like this appeaser; that will has been tested. 

If we lose in Iraq, it will be on account of three things:

1.  Poor (weak) decisions from our leadership conducting this war—the lousy ROE and selective policing of Baghdad neighborhoods initially comes to mind. 

2.  The self-serving antics of a gutless-clueless-partisan Congress.  Frist, Durbin, Pelosi, Kennedy, etc. 

3.  A biased media-fueled “Hate-Bush” frenzy without reason that is absolutely oblivious to the long-term damage to security it will cause.

I don’t want to have to explain to my two boys as they get on a C130 8-years from now why they have to go BACK to fight what their Dad could have finished had his nation had the will to do so.

What if our parents or grand-parents gave up in 1942?  We would call them cowards and weak. . . and we would be correct. 

This idea of America is not free and if we don’t have the stomach to preserve our fathers’ tradition, then we earn the “Chamberlain Award” as Village Idiots—cowardly and weak.

Think about it.

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By don jones, February 2, 2007 at 8:52 am Link to this comment
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SO LONG MOLLY, WE’LL MISS YOUR PATRIOTISM!  HOPE YOU FOUND JESUS CHRIST BEFORE YOU SIGNED OUT.

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By congressive, February 1, 2007 at 2:30 am Link to this comment
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/

Bush cuts cancer research for the second year in a row.  WTF?

Molly we hardly knew ye.

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By Sad As Hell, January 31, 2007 at 8:31 pm Link to this comment
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...And then there was Dear Molly.

Rest in Peace, dear lady.

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By Chris Tandy, January 20, 2007 at 9:54 am Link to this comment
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Molly dear,
When you write, it’s as if I can hear you speaking, I would hope one day to have these qualities in my post. Your words run true, hopefully Pres. Nomind won’t get us all killed in his persuit of spreading “democracy” everywhere but here.
Chris Tandy

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By Maurice, January 17, 2007 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
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Desperate situations call for desperate measures. It has been proved that a national total strike will get attention. If one day is not enough, then two or more until the idiot listens to the people who pay his salary. and resigns.

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By Skruff, January 15, 2007 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment
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How about a way out for everyone.  I don’t need Georges head, just an end to violence done with my tax dollars.

Here’s the plan:

George said he wanted to bring democracy to Iraq.  \

The citizens of Iraq have already held one election.

The Us leadership has accepted that election as valid.

So lets do another:

Let the people of Iraq vote on continued American presence. 

It’s a win win situation.  Everyone gets out without ever having to admit defeat!

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By The Old Hooligan, January 15, 2007 at 11:46 am Link to this comment
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Too bad we can’t find a comely young intern someplace on Capitol Hill willing to give “The Decider” a BJ, perhaps THEN we could actually begin impeachment proceedings against the S.O.B.

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By Ben Takin, January 14, 2007 at 10:34 pm Link to this comment
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John,
Those “Repuppetcans”  that are your good buddies, managed to do so much damage in the last six years, that it will take a generation to correct.

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By Lily Maskew, January 14, 2007 at 8:21 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Molly,

    Again your column was right on the money!  I watched our pres. being interviewed today.  It is clear that he has no cognitive reasoning skills to use to sort out the Iraq situation.  Surely I’m not the only one who has noticed this.  Why is such a person in the position to lead an entire country?  Why is there no real way to stop him?  NO one person should be able to act unilaterally.  It is imperative for Congress to act quickly to enact some reasonable check/balance on this man’s power.  A surge in our troops is clearly not the answer.

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By WMWoodward, January 14, 2007 at 5:16 pm Link to this comment
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The only thing that is going to stop this Monkey In Chief is if he slips on a banana peel and dies from a concussion.  What is surprising about this madman’s actions now?  We have witnessed him write over 800 presidential signing agreements which, in effect, are arrogant dismissals of the U.S. Constitution and people’s civil liberties.  We have knowledge that he has authorized warrantless spying and has searched for bank and credit records and now have awareness that he can search our postal mail.  After 98% of the top expert military brass, the Iraq Study Group and 70% of the American people have rejected a troop surge, he still is plundering forward, supporting the oil companies’ desire to make sure their coveted oil is garnered and that AIPAC’s desires are met, is there any wonder what he is doing?  George W. Bush stated in early 2006 that he had no intentions of cutting and running and, instead, the next president in 2008 was going to be the one who finalizes the Iraq War.  This president has a lifelong history of making stupid blunders both in business and in his personal life.  He has a history of drinking excessively.  He has made comments that God is telling him what to do.

This man is psychologically delusional.  As in, crazy.  Nuts.  Bona fide wacked.  In the last days of Nixon’s presidency, he became psychotic, with what I understand were persecutory delusions and command hallucinations.  Clinically, that is a sign of a psychotic break from reality.  In Hitler’s last days, it was exactly the same thing.  He was bonkers.  Psychotic.  Delusional, paranoid and with auditory hallucinations.  We shall see how far from reality Bush will escape in his desperate, despicable race to secure power for himself, his family and for all the wealthy, privileged friends who have placed him in office to have their own desired ends met.

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By yours truly, January 13, 2007 at 10:18 pm Link to this comment
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Now is the time for all of us patriots to come to the aid of our country by demanding TROOPS OUT NOW.  For starters on January 27, while tens of thousands of us in D.C. are protesting the war,  the rest of us can stand in solidarity with them by protesting outside the district offices of our respective congressperson and/or senator.  And we continue our peaceful protest vigils until Congress cuts off all funding for the Iraq war and our troops are back home.  And after that?  We make sure Congress impeaches President George Bush & then sends him off (under armed guard) to the International Court of Criminal Justice, to be tried there for his crimes against humanity.  And after that?  Empire collapses.  And then?  It’ll be up to us.

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By Jackie T. Gabel, January 13, 2007 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment
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RE: •    Comment #47240 by CK  on  1/12  at  2:21 pm — “I think the left is actually afraid this new strategy in Iraq might work, more than they are worried about casualties.  Can you imagine how bad it would be for them if democracy and peace eventually flourish in Iraq and the greater region as a result of Bush not retreating?”

>>>>>>>> It was never intended to “work” as sold

In fact the PNAC goal, based on Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard strategy and Huntington’s Clash of Civilizations ideology, is to fail all states in the Middle East which do not bow willingly to the hegemony of the New World Oligarchy, to which the tax-payer funded armies of the US and UK serve as expeditionary forces.

And to those who would argue this makes no sense, as the oil can simply be bought, the point is by what means. Saddam’s “sin” had nothing to do with his “conviction.” It was his move to the Petro-Euro that sealed his fate — same for Iran. Chavez’s defiance in this form may bring an expeditionary enforcement action to Venezuela’s shores as well. He’s already survived a CIA-lead coup attempt. What’s to stop them from trying again, Pelosi’s House Committees? Fat chance. There is no limit to the madness of these hegemons. The only issue strong enough to bring down this criminal regime is 911Truth.

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By Rich, January 13, 2007 at 9:42 am Link to this comment
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Some ditto-head said that Ted Kennedy never served a day in the military. That is absolutely untrue. Ted served as an enlisted man for two years prior to the Vietnam War. That is two years more than Cheney, Wolfowitz, Limbaugh, O’Rielly, Pearle, Kristol, and just about every Bush present and former cheerleader. Unlike Bush, Kennedy did not pick up a commission in a secret ceremony in some colonel’s office after completing basic training.

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By Prantha Trivedi, January 12, 2007 at 8:34 pm Link to this comment
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In response to #47240 by CK

You don’t quite get it.  We’re (Bush is) goading Iran into firing the first shot against US forces.  The 21,000 are actually for our IRAN War.

The US has already KIDNAPPED 6 IRANIANS in Iraq, and is keeping 5 of them as HOSTAGES. Bush wants Iran to retaliate, so that he can use more guns against another country. Is this how you like your country to act? 

Smarten up, babe.  It’s the Military Industrial Complex.  (And, yes; Bush is a maniacal jerk.)

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By John Doraemi, January 12, 2007 at 8:33 pm Link to this comment
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“I think the left is actually afraid this new strategy in Iraq might work, more than they are worried about casualties.” 

I’m not sure who “the left” are in this day and age, outside of Venezuela. 

The Democrats are trying to give themselves an issue that doesn’t require actual justice or morality, or accountability, or anything that could anger their overlords.  So they argue about visions, instead of restoring the country to a Constitutional republic and locking up the mad dictator.


Can you imagine how bad it would be for them if democracy and peace eventually flourish in Iraq and the greater region as a result of Bush not retreating?”

I don’t know which planet you’ve been on for the past few years, but Bush is in no way, shape or form concerned with “democracy” or “peace.”  You’ve got the wrong guy.

Bush, himself, would be an assistant manager at a Dennys if there was “democracy” in the USA today.  As for “peace,” you must be mad.

Peace is the last thing these maniacs want.  The entire point of the speech this week was to set up Iran for attack.  Nuclear attack. 

This madness is in the final stages of preparation with Israeli air force practicing these assaults on the Iranian energy reactors.

Your man of “peace” has already murdered over 600,000 innocent civilians, and terrorized several nations for several years.  State terror is far worse than the non-state variety, and that is what they employ every day.

I wouldn’t expect someone like you to understand morality or reciprocity, but here goes.  If Russia and China had done to your neighborhood, what the US is doing to Iraq, what would your response be?

Crimes of the State

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By John, January 12, 2007 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment
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Well well well Molly…..you wanted the Democraps voted in and you got it and now YOUR Democraps are doing what they did before the election.  They and you are still calling Bush a liar and stupid AND YET you and your democraps haven’t done ONE THING of substance to bring the war to an end.  YOU SAID YOU WOULD…..who are the liars NOW!

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By jon eden, January 12, 2007 at 5:56 pm Link to this comment
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Those of you who happen to be Jewish and believe that any criticism of Israel is anti-semitic seriously need to get a life and come into the modern world where critical thought takes place.

Now while we are on the subject of critical thought, after all the going back and forth about who did what, the fact of the matter remains that Israel has, with the carving up of the West Bank for their settlements, made any kind of legitimate peace impossible. You have behaved horribly and, if there is a bad outcome, you have got your own paranoid, selfish selves (along with the US government) to thank.

And this is not to fail to acknowledge all the fantastic and accomplished Jewish people who live in Israel and elsewhere in the world that can see beyond their own narrow interests and prejudices nor the terrible injustices your ethnic group has suffered.

jon eden

Connecting the Dots: From human behaviors to Ecosystem decline
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By talapus pete, January 12, 2007 at 4:47 pm Link to this comment
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More troops equals escalation equals more casualties on all sides.

The invasion was based on lies. The occupation of a sovereign nation is a crime against humanity. I look forward to the trials. The right wing, alas, will look forward to revenge.

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By Margaret Currey, January 12, 2007 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment
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Molly

All I can say is Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach Bush, Chaney and Rice.  Do it soon!

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

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By Eleanore Kjellberg, January 12, 2007 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment
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“Ask yourself, Americans—what will you do when you hear that your country has committed megacide against another country? The U.S. is the only nation to have killed people with radioactive weapons twice—A-bombs on Japan and depleted uranium weapons (mostly against Iraq). What a scourge on humanity that would make America.”

Bukko,
You’re absolutely correct—-it’s unimaginable that “genocide” is rationalized as a legitimate strategy to maintain an energy industry—-these corporate criminals are such sociopaths, that they would rather destroy the Middle East than develop an alternative energy policy. Our government is a disgrace!

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By CK, January 12, 2007 at 3:21 pm Link to this comment
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Kennedy is a loud-mouthed alcoholic fathead who never served a day in the military. More troops in Iraq don’t mean an escalating US role as it did in Vietnam. We are already fully involved and have been since the first day of invasion.  The war against the Iraqi military was won a long time ago. The US is an occupation force. More troops mean those troops can better protect themselves and secure the areas until the Iraqi military can do it themselves.

I think the left is actually afraid this new strategy in Iraq might work, more than they are worried about casualties.  Can you imagine how bad it would be for them if democracy and peace eventually flourish in Iraq and the greater region as a result of Bush not retreating?

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By John Hanks, January 12, 2007 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
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The enemy has not even been recognized, yet alone engaged.  The simple logistics of a fed up population, troop rebellions, and a massive depression will fire the first real shots.

The human race has always been made up of rich crooks, their suckers, and the inertia of lazy cowards.  We lazy cowards have not even begun to fight.

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By GW=MCHammered, January 12, 2007 at 7:34 am Link to this comment
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Dear George Bush Sr.

The voices tell him, he can bring the Second Coming via Armageddon. Please manage your son.

Thank you for your heroism.
The USA

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By Big Al, January 12, 2007 at 6:55 am Link to this comment
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If you scratch the surface, you can see that almost none of the supposed “antiwar” senators and congressional representatives envision us actully, completely leaving Iraq.

Almost all of them accept the idea that we have to keep a big “footprint” there, including those huge “enduring” bases, and that astoundingly, obscenely gargantuan so-called “embassy” that is obviously a command bunker meant to keep Iraq under the US-Israeli thumb in perpetuity.

Furthermore, the reason for all this is now finally becoming clear to even the stupidest observers: Iraq is to be used as a launchpad to undertake massive new wars against Iran and Syria—entirely for Israel’s benefit, and at suicidal cost to the United States of America.

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By Wayne Smyer, January 12, 2007 at 2:04 am Link to this comment
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“WHAT’S GOOD FOR HALLIBURTON IS GOOD FOR AMERIKA”
attributed to F-Y Cheney, your truly “vice” war president

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By John Doremi, January 12, 2007 at 1:32 am Link to this comment
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Sorry, Molly.  We are living in a time of deceit.  The Democrats have dutifully taken up the “fight the surge” banner, instead of what would be moral, legal and prudent: FIGHT THE BUSH REGIME, IMPEACH THEM ALL RIGHT NOW FOR WAR CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST PEACE, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, TORTURE, DEFRAUDING THE USA, HIGH TREASON (9-11), AND MANY OTHER CRIMES TOO NUMEROUS TO LIST HERE.

And that’s the facts.

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog.
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

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By Zelda Horvath, January 12, 2007 at 1:20 am Link to this comment
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George Bush is not dumb. Well, maybe GEORGE BUSH is dumb.  But George Bush’s brain is not dumb; whomever they all are.

No.  His brains and his chums are definitely NOT dumb.  They are raping the United States Treasury, right under our collective noses, while totally faking out the poor suckers who still believe that Bush is honorable.

War IS good business.  (Ask Halliburton.)  And, of course, there is oil in Iraq that Bush’s chums at Chevron, Exxon/Mobil, Shell, BP, etc. can take for a mere fraction of the market price (now that they have secured deals with the three major warring factions there.)

Bush has only two remaining years in which to rape this country.  He and his buddies need to maximize the take as we count down to the end of Bush’s tenure.  Thus, the 21,000 more troops are desperately needed ASAP.  (How much more $$ did Bush say he needs for this “troop surge”?)

Nope.  Not dumb.  Not dumb at all.

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By jimbobuddy, January 11, 2007 at 11:39 pm Link to this comment
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RGH: Wonderful questions you suggested. I concur in regards to miulitary resignations.In fact,I just told my son that the precursor to Air ops( I give credence to the reports of ground clashes in southern Iran) against Iran will be resignations in the JCS itself. Perhaps I’m being naiive, but I believe that the Senior members of the military are quite protective of their charges, and can only be pushed so far beforetheir sense of duty to the troops compels them to act. Clearly Bushco is in a rush to get the war started which, once provoked,  will be unstopable, whether by committee subpoenas, congressional investigations, or national& international outrage. we are on the eve of Gulf of Tonkin II. Pray for our country.

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By Michael Murry, January 11, 2007 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment
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I really don’t think I need to correct any misapprehensions about the extent and influence of Irael’s pugnacious and belligerent lobby in America. We hear them screaming every day about Iran’s “nuclear weapons” (i.e., WMD) due to strike Tel Aviv (but not Peoria, Illinois) any day now. Why this should concern the good citizens of Peoria—or any other American city—escapes me. Just when did America adopt Israelis as their eternal pets? I missed that unreported event.

When General Brent Scowcroft, former head of the Bush I NSA, said that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon had George W. Bush “wrapped around his little finger,” I don’t think that constitutes an “anti-semtic” statement as much as a forthright observation of a disturbing fact. So, can we now separate “Jew” from “Zionist”? That would clear up a great many issues.

Still, for those who say we “can’t blame the Jews” for Deputy Dubya Bush, I have to differ. As a matter of fact, George W. Bush “won” the presidential vote in Florida by less than 600 votes, while 2000 ad hoc members of “Blind Florida Jews for Pat Buchanan” claim they screwed up and failed to vote for Democrat Al Gore as intended. So, in this case—no matter whom it may hurt or why—we really do have some “Jews” to blame for President George W. Bush. That doesn’t mean we can’t or shouldn’t impeach the bastard along with his mentor and puppeteer Dick Cheney. But we do need to acknowledge the truth about “Jewish” and “Israeli” influence in America’s internal political affairs, whether intentional or otherwise.

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By Bukko in Australia, January 11, 2007 at 9:33 pm Link to this comment
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Two points: About oil contracts and about Iran.

I wondered WHY oil companies would sign 30-year contracts with a regime that’s going to fall sometime soon, in a country where pipelines and pumping facilities are destroyed regularly. The present scheme won’t last 30 months, much less 30 years. Then I thought—this will give oil companies a lever to blackmail Iraq with for the next three decades!

Just as Cubans who owned property there pre-Castro are still wrangling in court to reclaim it, oil companies can put the equivalent of a lien on any money Iraq ever gets from its oil. “We had a valid contract with the legitimate Iraqi government” they can say, even when the future Iraqi government is a Shiite theocracy. Any petrodollars passing through the international finance system can be embargoed until the oil companies get their cut. What a gangster racket!

That’s assuming the current pattern of civilisation lasts 30 years. What I also got out of Bush’s speech, like a lot of other posters here, is veiled threats to attack Iran. The war fervor is being whipped up. Will it be cross-border raids or bombing missions into Iranian territory to attack “terrorist training camps”? Can they provoke Iran into attacking one of the carrier battle groups?

President Cheney might be hoping to bully and bluff Iran into compliance. But the trouble with making threats and showing forces is that you have to USE them if the bluff doesn’t work. The threat to attack becomes self-fulfilling. And the only way the U.S. can effectively attack is with nuclear weapons.

Ask yourself, Americans—what will you do when you hear that your country has committed megacide against another country? The U.S. is the only nation to have killed people with radioactive weapons twice—A-bombs on Japan and depleted uranium weapons (mostly against Iraq). What a scourge on humanity that would make America.

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By Spinoza, January 11, 2007 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment
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>>>Yet again, blame the Jews.<<<

Mr. Mad as Hell , Why are you an anti-Semite?  Do you really think all Jews (or even Israelis) are responsible for the racist treatment of the Palestinian people?  All Jews are not racists like you sir.  It is only right wing Jews who are the trouble makers and warmongers and Imperialist thieves.  STOP CLAIMING YOU SPEAK FOR ALL JEWS. You don’t speak for me.

When Jews start living their national heritage we will be better off.

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By Dr. Knowitall PhD, PhD, January 11, 2007 at 8:10 pm Link to this comment
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re:46910, Paul Craig Roberts, I have to wonder how much Roberts is getting for the movie rights to this fantastic script.

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By Trigger finger, January 11, 2007 at 7:22 pm Link to this comment
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Hey everybody

Let’s start a little office pool to see who can guess the closest to the morning we are all going to wake up to the news that last night we were provoked by Iran.  And since we can’t talk to them, we had to bomb them back into a previous century.

Like when a kid throws a snowball at a car, and the driver feels compelled to open up on everyone in site with his automatic assault rifle.

When will we learn? “We don’t ever leave a MADMAN in a position to drive.”

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By Christian, January 11, 2007 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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> About the only politician out there besides Bush actively calling for a surge is Sen. John McCain.

Looks like Lieberman and Mitch McConnell too. McConnell says he’ll fillibuster the any votes on the matter and Lieberman said he’ll support him (according to “Raw Story”).

The GOP would be crazy to continue supporting this disaster. Sooner or later more GOP congressmen & women will falter and leave Bush & his cronies behind. They know they were lied to, the public is not behind this war or the so-called “surge.” and if Bush conitnues on this path it will only get worse.

Just trust that it will.

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By Kellina, January 11, 2007 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment
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I fear that we have become the “evil empire”—and that 1) Russia/China/Germany and a few other powers would have no compunction about taking us out to stop this madness. They won’t let WWIII happen. 2) All our troops in Iraq will be slaughtered if we enter war with Iran. In fact, the currently warring sunnis and shi’ia will finally combine forces in order to slaughter US forces.

Perhaps that is what Bush & Co (cheney or whoever is pulling the strings) want—something truly devasting to pull Americans in, re-start the draft, etc.

The US already provoked Iran by abducting personnel and stealing stuff from the Iranian Embassy in Kurdistan. Embassies are sovereign territory, right? So we have essentially attacked Iran.

There is indeed a War of Terror, not on Terror. And I am terrified.

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Hey Blackolive: We 9/11 truthseekers are not alone. Here’s some higher-up military folks who are skeptical of the official 9/11 story:

http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport

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RE: •    Comment #46910 by Paul Craig Roberts  on  1/11  at  8:06 am — “Two US carrier task forces or strike groups will certainly congest the Persian Gulf. On January 9, a US nuclear sub collided with a Japanese tanker in the Persian Gulf. Two carrier groups will have scant room for maneuver. Their purpose is either to provide the means for a hard hit on Iran or to serve as sitting ducks for a new Pearl Harbor that would rally Americans behind the new war.”

>>>>>>>>> There you have it…

and, the provocation could as easily be fabricated as real. There is a long history of this: e.g. Battleship Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, et al. Raising awareness of this possibility is essential. If they pull such a stunt and stampede the Congress again, we could be faced with WWIII — these Strageloves are totally unpredictable. Don’t count on the Main Stream Media to inform you. They’ll as likely as not be part of the deception — thoroughly infiltrated for decades. The recommendation is to keep up on this issue by checking the weekly webcasts of Webster G. Tarpley at http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley07.html and heed his warning:

If WMD go off anywhere in the world, don’t look to bin Laden, the cave, the laptop; don’t look to the Axis of Evil. Look to Cheney and Cheney’s handlers.

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By Big Al, January 11, 2007 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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Mad As Hell says: “Yet again, blame the Jews.”

Nope. Israel is not “the Jews”. It only thinks it is. Israel is fundamentally a delusional country.

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By John Hanks, January 11, 2007 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment
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We don’t matter.  We are ruled by common criminals.  We have to tax the rich traitors to death, or we must fail to pay their taxes for them.

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By colbert2422, January 11, 2007 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment
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a way to stop this so it stays stopped would be a war tax, not just as as we did ***after*** WW-II, but whenever we have troops in harm’s way.

A constitutional amendmend imposing a 100 percent tax on all corporate net income as long as we have troops at risk should limit wars to when we really need them.

william

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By Prantha Trivedi, January 11, 2007 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment
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Here’s how to do it:

Pass this WAR PROFITEERING ACT:

In times of war or insurrection, when the people sacrifice the service of their children, parents, spouses and siblings on behalf of our nation in its prosecution; and when the people pay the costs of such prosecution; all business enterprises who provide products or services to our nation in the war effort will also sacrifice, in that they will charge the people no more than the actual cost of such products and services, plus no more than 5%.  If it is determined that a business has charged a greater amount than 5%, the chief executive of such company shall be tried for war profiteering.

No Preference shall be given and no favoritism shall be shown to any contractor.

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By Louise, January 11, 2007 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
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Just when we’ve decided these people can’t go any lower, they go lower. That’s when we finally realize the one thing we never did and should have realized from the very beginning. There is no low to low.

This morning republicans in the Senate engaged in the peculiar sport of trying to convince us THIS war is the same as WWII, therefore we must fearlessly commit to whatever sacrifice necessary to win ... just as we did then.

Senator Jon Kyle (R, AZ) asked us to compare the landing at Normandy to the need for more troops in Iraq. “What would have happened,” he asked, ” had we been unwilling to support our government then?”

Overrunning the German beach defenses at Normandy was a critical turning point in WWII. We suffered enormous casualties, but we were not alone. The successful Allied landing in France was a blow to the German occupation of Europe, increased partisan activity against enemy occupation, and gave hope to all those fighting against Nazi tyranny. From that point on, the Allies would drive into Germany and ultimately destroy the Nazi regime.

Agreed, Senator Kyle. that might not have happened if we had refused to send in those troops. But the parallel you would have us accept simply does not exist.

When we and the Allied nations stormed the beaches of Normandy, we were responding to an overt act of invasion, a war of aggression ... unfounded and unnecessary ... on a basically defenseless people. A military attack by a Nation called Germany being led by a man named Adolph Hitler.

In the case of Iraq, the “surge” being called for might be seen by the Iraqis as an escalation of an overt act of invasion, a war of aggression ... unfounded and unnecessary ... on a basically defenseless people. An attack by a nation called the United States of America being led by a man named George W. Bush.

There’s your parallel Senator Kyle!

Rather than trying to celebrate it, I think we should do everything within our power to try and find a way to correct the damage we have done to Iraq and the Middle East. And to overcome this great national disgrace we have brought down on ourselves.

I’m reminded of the story told by the Allied forces when they finally entered Germany. No matter how hard they looked, or how many they asked ... they couldn’t find any citizens who were members of the Nazi Party. Strange indeed when you looked around and saw the destruction surrounding them. How could an entire society of people allow this to happen if they were not a part of it? What was missing in the equation if they could watch this happen and be powerless to prevent it?

Well the answer was obvious. “They are either lying now, or had been willing accomplices then.”

Is that what Molly meant when she asked, “How could we have let this happen?  How could we have been so stupid?”

I have no wish to make George W. Bush look like the dumbest president ever, if that is how history will judge him, that’s his fault. But I think we have to ask is he the most selfish president we have in the White House right now? Well, yes. Because if he could get past his obsession with being seen as the great war president and recognize that being a peace-maker is far more difficult and requires far more courage, he might have some hope of still being recognized by history as having done something notable.

It’s still not to late Mr. Bush. Do something completely alien to your history. Engage in meaningful diplomacy with Iraq and all of Iraqs neighbors ... including Iran!

Bullets kill! Words don’t!

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By TAO Walker, January 11, 2007 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment
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Paul Craig Roberts (#‘s 46910-11) clearly knows whereof he speaks.  So does George S Semsel (#46887).  Unfortunately, a lot of smart, well-meaning people persist in believing the “Project For a New American Century” was just some kind of trial-balloon that would be withdrawn if it didn’t seem to fly with “theamericanpeople.”  It’s not!  This is THE PLAN, man, like-it or lump-it. 

It’s store-front office and web-site are being closed down now because they’re no longer necessary.  All the elements for carrying-on with the ‘project’ are not just in-place, they’re set in cement and carved in stone.  The-point-of-no-return for the plotters (and everybody else on this rock) was passed on 9/11/01.

Continuing wide-spread and deep-seated reluctance to face-up to the sheer immensity of this scheme, and the ruthless determination of the global gangbangers behind it, is of course essential to believing there is still something to be done to stop it.  There is not.  Descend on D.C. en masse.  Bang pots and pans until the cows come home.  None of it will change the course the “civilized” world is locked into now.  Momentum might be affected, but only to accelerate it…..which, all-in-all, might be the best thing actually, so march and bang away, people.

Right this minute the last tattered wrappings are coming off this hellish world-o’-hurt humans got suckered into ten thousand years ago.  You get to see it now, finally, in all its naked greed, it’s absolute disdain not just for the lives of its captive two-legged cattle, but for Life Herownself, in all places and for all time.  This is not some Hollywood horror flick.  This is not a guts-and-gore video game.  This is not even a test of faith or an exercise in “democracy.” 

What this IS, in its latest configuration, is the all-or-nothing putsch for the real “thousand-year reich,” by the plutoligarchic UK/US/Zionist axis that has been driving “civilization” toward a disastrous dead-end for a hundred human generations now.  Even those nameless, faceless manipulators at the highest levels of the criminal CONs piracy couldn’t stop it now if they tried to…..which they won’t.  It’s been too long coming, there’s too much of it, and it’s moving much too fast.

So what’s a poor mother to do?  She can’t get anywhere near the big bosses at the top of this death-cult pyramid scheme.  She might pull-down the petty-tyrant puppets hung maybe just within reach in Washington or London or Basel or Berlin or Bagdad or Jerusalem, etcetera, ad nauseum.  But that would prove to be just one more of a million exercises in EFF-YOU-tility.

Here’s what offers every poor mother (and that is just damn near every mother there is here) a chance just a tiny bit better than a snowball’s in hell.  She can get together with every other poor mother and jump from this burning house-of-cards that calls itself “the global economy.”  For most poor mothers it’s not nearly so far to the ground as it might look. 

Park your cars and plant your feet back on Mother Earth, where you live.  Help one another, because it ought to be painfully obvious by now there’s no help for you anywhere else.

THIS IS NOT A TEST!  THIS IS THE ACTUAL EMERGENCY!

HokaHey!

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By Ben Takin, January 11, 2007 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t want American youth to die to make corporations rich.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132569.ece

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By MARIAM RUSELL, January 11, 2007 at 2:53 pm Link to this comment
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Mr. Roberts you are correct, I fear.

From The Jerusalem Post, Jan 10, article by Tovah Lazaroff and Leah Granof, JONES, US WILL STAND BY ISRAEL IN FACE OF IRAN THREAT.

United States Ambassador Richard Jones said on Tuesday that his country was committed to Israel’s security in light of the “serious threat” Iran and Hamas posed to Israel’s existence.

“Iran’s president [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] openly calls for wiping Israel off the map. Hamas leader Khaled Mashal stubbornly refuses to accept that Israel even has a right to exist,” said Jones. He spoke in Jerusalem to gathering of the biennial national convention of the Association of Americans and Canadians in Israel.

“When you add Iran’s nuclear ambition to an already unstable mix of regional tensions the serious nature of Israel’s security challenge becomes clear,” Jones said.

He assured the audience that, “Israel’s security and well being are of vital importance to the United States.”

Military threats are not the only problem Israel faces, Jones said.

“Even some Western artists and academics afflicted with a peculiar strain of ideological blindness have proposed a cultural boycott of Israel, while saying nothing about those who deny the holocaust,” Jones said.

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Mr. Jones pushed every button. This is true build up to the main event…...

Don´t we recognize it?
Does Bush actually think China and Russia are not looking?

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By Sheila, January 11, 2007 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Molly,  Maliki has approved a new law (today, what a coincidence when all attention was on Bush’s speech) to open up to international development (i.e. BP, Exon and Mobil) the Iraqi oil fields.  Nowhere on the mainstream media is this being reported.  Cheney’s secret meetings with the oil companies in 2000 has finally come to fruition.  Read the Monday “Truthout ” article on this.  I believe it was first reported in the International Herald.

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By Spinoza, January 11, 2007 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment
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I think Mr. Roberts is correct. This is preliminary to an attack on Iran.  And the attack on Iran will lead to a very long war. (Maybe a world War).  This is all at Israel’s behest.

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By Mad as Hell, January 11, 2007 at 11:53 am Link to this comment
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“A big reason the Democrats, with exceptions, do not demand that we leave Iraq is that the Israel lobby desperately wants us to stay in Iraq. ”—Big Al

Yet again, blame the Jews.  That’s really what Big Al and Paul Craig Roberts are saying.

Sorry, guys, blame BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ, et al, and the 5 USSC justices who decided Bush should be President in Dec of 2000.  And blame the 50 or so million American dunderheads who voted for Bush in 2000, not to mention the 62.5 million who voted for him in 2004.

He should never have been president, should never have been elected, and now should be impeached.

To put the LIE to Big Al’s assertions, Democrats are SURPRISINGLY united that they want the USA OUT of Iraq.  Even Harry Reid’s symbolic vote is going to pull 10 or 11 GOP Senators across the aisle to vote against Bush’s escalation.

Conviction in an impeachment trial takes 67 Senate votes.  With the SHOCKING news that Sam Brownback is against the surge, I put the number of Senators willing to convict at 61—62 is Joe Lieberman FINALLY does the right thing again.  Just 5 more and Bush becomes only the second man to leave office prematurely while still able to walk or even breathe.

61 or 62 of the needed 67 to rid America of this plague that has destroyed our economy, our foreign policy, our military, our environment, our ability to respond to emergencies, our friendship with those abroad, our economic fairness, and most of all, our freedom.

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By KatieL, January 11, 2007 at 11:27 am Link to this comment
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As we take action to stop this war lets not forget other important issues.  World hunger would cost a mere $19 billion annually to end, according to The Borgen Project.  Compare that to the over $300 billion spent in Iraq so far that’s nothing!

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By bill blackolive, January 11, 2007 at 11:17 am Link to this comment
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Molly, good collected piece here.  I am thinking we need to fix this thing at its roots.  Skyscrapers in history don’t fall from big fire, ever, steal beams don’t melt in the open, only way and good god forget engineering defect is controlled demolition, and, there are many witnesses, to all 3 buildings, yes, 3, one not hit by airplane.  If some civilian witnesses got some guts, why not journalists?  Could we please get it going?  Safety in numbers.  Forget it this is too horrible to believe, these are poor devils attracted to torture.  Last night I could bear watching my first W. speech, because I saw fear.  I doubt this poor bastard is the leader.  Do you?

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By Missy, January 11, 2007 at 11:14 am Link to this comment
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Shouldn’t we all write Congress and have Bush impeached?  Why is this not being mentioned now that the dems are in control?  It’s sad that the impeachment hasn’t already started!  Bush is really a religous fruitcake with an oversized ego and an addiction to power and money!  Illegal war-monger and his friends prospered as well!  Where’s his noose?  We saw Saddams…

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By talapus pete, January 11, 2007 at 11:06 am Link to this comment
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And if a Demican is elected president in ‘08, what if Bush simply refuses to leave office? What we have is a king outside of Parliament: he decides which laws apply to him (not many) and which don’t. Suppose a suponea (however it’s spelled) is issued to him by Congress and he refuses it. The Supremes are in his pocket. He wins.

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By RGH, January 11, 2007 at 10:30 am Link to this comment
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I agree completely with Paul Craig Roberts (comment #46910).  The only surprise to me in the Bush speech was Bush’s threats to Syria and Iran. Once again he wants to conduct war “on the cheap.”  He thinks air power will bend Iran to his will.  I would like one Whore House reporter to ask Bush to tell us 1) The population of Iran, 2) The size of Iran in relation to Vietnam, 3) The length and casualty count of the Iran-Iraq War. I was in the air war against North Vietnam during 1966-1967. Round the clock three carriers attacked NVN. Usually it was one at night, and two during the day; 8 launches apiece, daily.  Meanwhile, the Air Force attacked from bases in Thailand, everybody getting refueled going in and out. The Marine Air Wing in SVN attacked southern NVN. Hundreds of “sorties” daily for years.  The result? While their will to fight never diminished, NVN air defenses got better and better.  Admirals and Generals should resign at the first sign Bush wants to widen the war to Iran——but THAT requires real courage, moral courage, something unseen in today’s military.

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By FreeDem, January 11, 2007 at 10:17 am Link to this comment
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Rajiv Chandrasekaran is only one of at least dozens of folk who have documented detailed stupidity, Nir Rosen, and Peter Galbraith stand out as well in that crowd, but it is a very large crowd.

I was surprised that the Democrats won the victory they did (not that the vote wasn’t even more overwhelming, but that it washed over the chicanery), but all it did was give one last chance to get it right, there is only two years to fix so much or there will not be another chance.

These folk may be stupid (or not) about how to use power, but they are definitely not stupid at all about how to grab it, or hold on. I prepare to be happily surprised that Bush even gives up power in 2 years.

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By Betsy, January 11, 2007 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
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I’m wondering if we should take a lesson from the immigrants last spring, and call a one-day general strike.  It could coincide with the Jan. 29 mobilization to pressure Congress.  There has to be something to say, loud and clear, “This is our country and you just can’t do this any more.”

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By John Earl, January 11, 2007 at 10:01 am Link to this comment
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Is it just one big war movie for George W?

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=156374

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By So Tx Jim, January 11, 2007 at 9:57 am Link to this comment
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Today Thur 1-11-07 there will be protests nation-wide:<www.americasaysno.org> .  The Texas State Capitol in Austin is scheduled for 6 PM.  Hope to see you there Molly.  Jim

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By Eleanore Kjellberg, January 11, 2007 at 9:46 am Link to this comment
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“80 percent of the public is against escalation” and 80 percent of Iraqis want
Americans dead—-if a business operated with those statistics, your CPA would declare bankruptcy—-unless of course the companies are Halliburton; Exxon/Mobil; Bechtel; etc…  And that’s exactly what we have; a BANKRUPT FOREIGN POLICY.

Yes, McCain supports Bush, but didn’t Bush question McCain’s sanity when he ran for president in 2000.  And McCain’s logic is questionable; we don’t know the long term effects of being tortured.  It is remarkable though, how a one time independent thinking Republican like McCain, has become a sycophant to neo-conservative evangelicals.

It is true that Rajiv Chandrasekaran’s “Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone,” is like reading a horror novel;” but what’s even more frightening, is that this book is “stranger” than fiction—-staff were hired for key positions in the Iraqi economy, oil industry and electrical power systems, who were in their twenties, utterly experienced, could not speak Arabic, but AGREED with Bush on issues such as Roe v. Wade and stem cell research—-this would be amusing, if it wasn’t so tragic.   

Yes, Molly, is right we are the DECIDERS and we must decide NOT to be apathetic and allow young brave men and women to die in a useless mission, initiated by senseless politicians who are backed by corrupt corporations.  They have privatized this military “enterprise,” not to spread democracy and to make the world safer, but to selfishly ensure their own power and financial future for decades to come.

And more importantly, we should also insist that mainstream news, COVER anti-war demonstrations, and show the flag-draped coffins returning from Iraq and Afghanistan—-as Americans we should NOT want this war to be sanitized—-that is IMMORAL—we all need to know the TRUTH.

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By M. Pia Ragionieri, January 11, 2007 at 9:16 am Link to this comment
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In addition to Sen. John McCain calling for an increase in troops, I would add Sen. Joe Lieberman. As a resident of Connecticut who voted for Lamont in the primaries, only to see Lieberman’s shenanigans in the elections, I and many people in my state won’t forget.

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By Paul Craig Roberts -- part II, January 11, 2007 at 9:07 am Link to this comment
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Now is the chance – the only chance – for Israel and the neoconservatives to achieve their goal of bringing Muslims to heel, a goal that they have been writing about and working to achieve for a decade.

This goal requires the war to be widened by whatever deceit and treachery necessary to bring the American public along.

The US Congress must immediately refocus its attention from the surge to Iran, the real target of Bush administration aggression.

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By Paul Craig Roberts, January 11, 2007 at 9:06 am Link to this comment
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“The Real Surge”

by Paul Craig Roberts (former Reagan Cabinet member, who is worried that the new Democratic Congress is focused on Iraq while the real target is Iran)

Puzzlement over President Bush’s appointment of a US Navy admiral as commander in charge of the ground wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The appointment makes sense only if the administration’s attention has shifted from the insurgencies to an attack on Iran.

The Bush administration has recently doubled its aircraft carrier forces and air power in the Persian Gulf. According to credible news reports, the Israeli air force has been making practice runs in preparation for an attack on Iran.

Recently, Israeli military and political leaders have described Israeli machinations to manipulate the American public and their representatives into supporting or joining an Israeli assault on Iran.

Two US carrier task forces or strike groups will certainly congest the Persian Gulf. On January 9, a US nuclear sub collided with a Japanese tanker in the Persian Gulf. Two carrier groups will have scant room for maneuver. Their purpose is either to provide the means for a hard hit on Iran or to serve as sitting ducks for a new Pearl Harbor that would rally Americans behind the new war.

Whether our ships are hit by Iran in retaliation to an attack from Israel or suffer an orchestrated attack by Israel that is blamed on the Iranians, there are certainly far more US naval forces in the Persian Gulf than prudence demands.

Bush’s proposed surge appears to have no real military purpose. The US military opposes it as militarily pointless and as damaging to the US Army and Marine Corps. The surge can only be accomplished by keeping troops deployed after the arrival of their replacements. Moreover, the increase in numbers that can be achieved in this way are far short of the numbers required to put down the insurgency and civil war.

The only purpose of the surge is to distract Congress while plans are implemented to widen the war.

Weapons inspectors have failed to find a nuclear weapons program in Iran. Most experts say it would be years before Iran could make a weapon even if the Iranian government is actively working on a weapons program. Since the danger, if any, is years away, why is Israel so determined to attack Iran now?

The answer might be that Israel has the chance now. The Bush administration is in its pocket. The White House is working with neoconservatives, not with the American foreign policy community represented by the Iraq Study Group. Neoconservative propagandists are in influential positions in the media. The US Congress is intimidated by AIPAC. The correlation of forces are heavily in Israel’s favor.

Part of the Israeli/neoconservative plan has already been achieved with the destruction of civilian infrastructure and spread of sectarian strife in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. If Iran can be taken out with a powerful air attack that might involve nuclear weapons, Syria would be isolated and Hezbollah would be cut off from Iranian supplies.

Israel has two years remaining to use its American resources to achieve its aims in the Middle East. How influential will Israel and the neoconservatives be with the next president in the wake of a US defeat in Iraq and Israeli defeat in Lebanon? If the US withdraws its troops from Iraq, as the US military and foreign policy community recommend and as polls show the American public wants, the only effect of Bush’s Iraq invasion will have been to radicalize Muslims against Israel, the US, and US puppet governments in the Middle East. Extremist elements will tout their victory over the US, and the pressures on Israel to accept a realistic accommodation with Palestinians will be overpowering.

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By chris, January 11, 2007 at 8:06 am Link to this comment
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escalation is Bush’s only choice, he has put his whole presidency behind fear and terror, and if we pull out of Iraq now, the man behind the curtain will be exposed for the fool he is. 
This is why we MUST stop his madness, now, not in 8 more years.

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By Big Al, January 11, 2007 at 8:00 am Link to this comment
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A big reason the Democrats, with exceptions, do not demand that we leave Iraq is that the Israel lobby desperately wants us to stay in Iraq. Both of our major parties are thoroughly terrified of defying the Israel lobby.

The petro-military-industrial complex has more sway over the Republicans than over the Democrats, but the combination of the Israel lobby and the petro-military-industrial complex is pretty much unbeatable - even if Bush’s approval rating sinks to near zero.

We will stay in Iraq, and we will probably go on to war against Iran - because that’s what Israel demands. And in American politics, Israel gets what Israel wants - even if it kills us.

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By kevo, January 11, 2007 at 6:44 am Link to this comment
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President Bush is out-of-control.  Americans need to unite to stop his madness. -Kevo

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By george S Semsel, January 11, 2007 at 6:41 am Link to this comment
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Molly - We could have been the deciders, but we are not. We gave that up in 2000. There’s nothing to protest. More troops are already packing or on their way to Bagdad. Protest is hopeless. The battle is over.

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