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Joe Conason: A Time to Say No to BushPosted on Jan 11, 2007By Joe Conason Following George W. Bush’s latest attempt to rally the dispirited and angry nation in support of the prolonged conflict in Iraq, the question before Congress is starkly simple: What are the people’s representatives obliged to do about the bad judgment and bad faith of this president? Bush’s bad judgment is manifest to most Americans in his call for dispatching at least another 20,000 combat troops to Baghdad. Evidently he shares the illusion, fostered by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that a tardy and nominal increase in troops will somehow improve the chances for “victory.” Bad judgment is the original sin of this war, dating back to the abuse of intelligence data by the president and his advisers. Early in 2001, they decided to invade Iraq and then made sure that “the facts” about weapons of mass destruction and connections to al-Qaida were “fixed around the policy,” in the words of the famous Downing Street Memo. They brushed aside the reluctance of our traditional allies. They rejected the advice of experienced military commanders and civilian experts. Now they reject the advice of generals both active and retired who say that the proposed “surge” of 20,000 troops will prove useless or worse. Even the president’s most dedicated supporters have been forced to admit that he and his government made disastrous mistakes in battling the insurgency and running the occupation. But from the beginning, bad faith has exacerbated the effects of bad judgment—and not only in the fabricated case for war. Advertisement Two months ago, appearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, CentCom commander Gen. John Abizaid saw no reason to send more troops. “I’ve met with every divisional commander—Gen. Casey, the corps commander, Gen. Dempsey—we all talked together,” he testified. “And I said, ‘In your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq?’ And they all said no.” More recently, Gen. George Casey, who commands all U.S. forces in Iraq, said that as long as U.S. forces “bear the main burden of Iraq’s security,” the Iraqi government will avoid making “the hard decisions about reconciliation and dealing with the militias.” Yet instead of listening to those commanders, the president has replaced them with more agreeable officers who will endorse and implement his escalation. Even more troubling than the prospect of more Americans returning home dead and wounded is the suspicion that they will be sacrificed to save face for the president, his associates and their neoconservative advisers. Almost nobody in the White House believes the “surge” will lead to victory, according to informed sources who suggest that the Bush gang merely wants to delay the inevitable withdrawal until the next administration. That sounds like the kind of criminally insane reasoning once used to send more troops to Vietnam. Sen. Edward Kennedy will introduce legislation forbidding the president to send additional troops to Iraq without congressional approval, by using the appropriation power. As he points out, the original authorization to use military force contemplated disarming Saddam Hussein, not inserting American forces into an Iraqi civil war—and as such is “obsolete.” His proposal would not reduce support for the troops already in the field. The great liberal lion insists that the people’s representatives must not rubber-stamp a deadly presidential error without debate. The dwindling caucus of Bush supporters in the Senate may well decide to filibuster the Kennedy bill, and they may also try to blame his policy’s failure on its critics. But the public has no more patience for that argument, as they demonstrated last fall by rejecting Republican “cut and run” attack rhetoric. Still, some congressional Democrats will hesitate to confront the president, fearing the political consequences. But hiding behind that excuse is just as unconscionable as sending thousands more young men and women to their deaths to save face. For anyone who no longer supports this war, or never did, the only moral choice is to say no. Previous item: Ellen Goodman: Bob the Un-Builder Next item: Molly Ivins: Stand Up Against the ‘Surge’ New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By stephen miller, January 17, 2007 at 10:45 am Link to this comment
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A note regarding impeachment. The airwaves are full of people saying if we impeached Bush, we’d only get Cheney, or liberal talk hosts cackling over Nancy Pelosi becoming president if we got Cheney out too. Actually, the Ford presidency shows how it works: No-one wanted Nixon’s Veep, the ridiculous Spiro Agnew, to become president, so corruption charges were brought against him and he resigned. Then, in accordance with section 2 of the 25th amendment, the President nominated a new Vice-President, to be confirmed by Congress. That was Ford.
Cheney is in fact involved in a trial right now, so…
If this scenario played out again, Bush would be forced to nominate someone acceptable to the Congress- let’s say Chuck Hagel (a Nebraska Republican very critical of the administration).
The worst reason for not impeaching Bush and Cheney is that their clock will almost have run out anyway. Impeachment is the way- the only way- we can officially and for the record state that specific crimes were committed and that they constitute unacceptable behavior for our leaders, and that we condemn and renounce them forever. And we must do that.
Report thisBy chuck, January 15, 2007 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
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bush & cheney (b & c) have their heads in the sand. they have to be stopped now. look at “today in iraq” daily to hear about the bloodbath. Congress has to do everything to stop b & c. don’t vote for mccain either. Stop the money to send more troops to iraq now. Kennedy is ight with his legislation.
Report thisBy Lily Maskew, January 14, 2007 at 8:41 pm Link to this comment
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I agree entirely with this article. We must say NO to Bush over and over again; what’s more Congress has to stand up and say NO also. It is clear that that man has no ability to reason correctly. We should not waste any more time waiting for him to say something sensible. It is crystal clear that we need to stop this war as soon as possible.
Report thisBy Louise, January 14, 2007 at 12:39 am Link to this comment
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Sending 20,000 fresh targets to Iraq, Richard and George in their mind-numbing indifference have even explained to the insurgents exactly where they’ll be!
The war is lost Mr. Decision maker and Mr. Decider.
All you had to do was attack a defenseless people weakened by years of sanctions, still recovering from the Gulf War and being daily bombed for years, and .....
YOU COULDN’T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT!
Why don’t YOU march into Baghdad waving your FUBAR banner!
F.U.B.A.R!
Don’t know what that means? Ask the troops next time you call for a “command performance!”
The Congress wants us out!
The Generals want us out!
The Iraqis want us out!
The Americans want us out!
Even Tony Blankley wants us out!
Seems everyone save Richard and George want us out!
So, maybe it’s time we THROW THEM OUT!
Hello Congress ...
Report thisIs anybody listening?
Does anybody care?
By Roger Drowne EC, January 13, 2007 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment
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Impeach, TREASON, Trial, Jail BUSH - NOW
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By Mordechai Shiblikov, January 13, 2007 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment
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The Democrats will not cut off funds to end the occupation, neither will they get the courage and/or outrage to impeach the criminal punk Bush. Bush knows this. He will now go after Iran and Syria as a way to cover the cosmic failure and crime of his Iraq occupation. All that’s left, the last possible way to stop it all, is for large scale mutinies by U.S. troops to begin. It will have to be hundreds of troops, not dozens, who do this. Bush and his ticket punching military suck-ups will then be faced with trying, convicting and executing hundreds of American soldiers. Short of this, the Middle East catastrophe will go on and on with ever more dire consequences for the world.
Report thisBy Bluestocking, January 13, 2007 at 1:28 pm Link to this comment
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I’ve been reluctant to jump on the impeachment bandwagon up until now, especially since this will result in Cheney becoming President (and he’s just as bad if not even worse than Bush)—but Raw Story reports that in an interview with “60 Minutes”, President Bush confirmed Tony Snow’s statement from several days ago that it essentially doesn’t matter which way Congress votes with regard to funding the so-called “surge” (escalation, augmentation, etc.) because he wants it to happen and is determined to make it happen. Given that Congress is made up of those people whom the American people have chosen to represent them in government, Bush is not only dismissing Congress as irrelevant but is also dismissing the American people as irrelevant—and if the President does not consider himself answerable to Congress, he is effectively saying that he wields absolute power. This is precisely what our Founding Fathers designed our system of checks and balances in order to prevent—they knew that without them, one branch of government might become a juggernaut which pursues its own interests regardless of whether or not those are within the consent or even the best interests of the American people.
Here’s the article:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_matter_0113.html
If Bush attempts to send additional troops to Iraq in defiance of a Congressional decision to cut funds—especially if he does so by other means than a Presidential veto, which seems likely given that he has hardly ever exercised his veto power since taking office and tends to use signing statements instead—then the only reasonable and effective response from Congress would appear to be drawing up articles of impeachment. If they do not, it will inevitably send the message that the Congress is prepared to roll over and play dead for the next two years. This has got to stop somewhere—and it’s only too clear that Bush will not stop on his own, so someone has to rein him in. The President MUST be made to understand that he does not have the right to wield absolute power. My only concern is that even if Congress were to come back with a majority vote to remove him from office, it seems very unlikely that he would agree to step down—and especially given Truthdig’s reports of the number of right-wing supporters in the police and the military, an attempt to forcibly remove Bush from office could potentially become very nasty.
Report thisBy Jefferson's Guardian, January 12, 2007 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment
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Good morning, Vietraq!
Report thisBy KathleenMary, January 12, 2007 at 8:01 pm Link to this comment
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These people only care about money and power. Impeach, impeach, impeach.
Report thisBy joe, January 12, 2007 at 8:00 pm Link to this comment
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i think that its funny that you libs voted in a democratic congress under the assumption that they were going to stop this war…and WHAT have they done??? thats right they got in and started to look at other things as opposed to stopping this war….lets face it people it doesnt matter who is office, republican, democrat, indy, white, black, green, purple…there is not going to ANYBODY happy with the job they are doing.
Report thisBy Spinoza, January 12, 2007 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment
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b What does our enemy look like?
A sociological approach to the enemies of the people. The Ruling class.
Report thisb http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article16140.htm
By Rodney Matthews, January 12, 2007 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment
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The middle east has always been a hornet’s nest. George Bush has been the only U.S president stupid enough and ignorant enough to swat the nest and let all the hornet’s out. Everybody else just killed the ones that got out. Now that all of the hornet’s are out, the only man who could put the hornets back has been hanged. Now Bush wants to go to Iran and Syria and let the lions out of the cage. Why don’t we send Bush and the rest of the GOP elephants that support him along with Cheney and his hunting rifle to tame the animals we uncaged and let our soldiers who are on their third or fourth war tour home to get to know their families they haven’t seen in years.
Report thisBy joeydonuts, January 12, 2007 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment
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bush needs to be stoped. He has to be impeached NOW. Congress had better hurry the fuck up with the drafting of the articles of impeachment.
Report thisBy Dan Campbell, January 12, 2007 at 11:48 am Link to this comment
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Minimum wage:
Report thisThe minimum wage seems more a symbolic act of sympathy for the poor rather than a real effort to help working poor. I am glad there is sympathy for their condition but sympathy doesnt help them out of their condition. The government seems so removed from the plight of even the middle class citizen, how could it ever have empathy for those on the lowest rungs of the economic ladder. (I wonder if congress and the senate know or care what it is like to worry about having enough food or how it feels to worry about saving enough money to be able to have transportation to a minimum wage job.) One thing I have heard discussed is that minimum wage doesnt apply to all workers. For example, waiters and waitresses certain employers exempted by their businesss stated income. Also, the minimum wage doesnt just jump all at once; it will come into effect over a two year period. By the time all who can receive the full minimum wage, it will have the value that the minimum wage has now.
The war on terror:
It is a phrase useful to the Bush administration when needing to change the subject; especially when they are feeling the heat caused by domestic problems or the truth. I am very concerned for all the soldiers having to serve our country at this time because I strongly suspect they are being misused and will be treated as those that fought the war in Viet Nam were. The phrase War On Terror has been used by the Bush Administration as a kind of hot button to manipulate this country since 9/11.
The immigrant problem:
I sympathize with the social and economic conditions faced by the ordinary Mexican citizen and there is no doubt that they face extreme disadvantages when trying to improve their condition in Mexico however, it is their responsibility to help themselves by demanding improved social and economic conditions from the government of their country. The country of Mexico and some American employers are directly responsible for our problems with illegal immigration and yet it seems no one in the Bush administration, wants to do anything in anyway to confront them. New laws arent necessary; enforcing the law is! The people involved in promoting illegal immigration are breaking laws that are already in place and the people who are ignoring the laws who have been sworn to uphold them are conspirators in that promotion. The Bush administrations failure to address the illegal immigration problems and not enforce the law they have sworn to uphold is tantamount to promoting slavery.
The war in Iraq:
Bush and others in and out of the government are leading our country into a situation that cannot have a good ending for us, the Iraqis or the world. When the Bush administration was promoting war with Iraq they gave reasons that have continually been proven wrong but that hasnt made them reconsider the necessity to execute continued war in Iraq. We have all heard the humanitarian reasons that politicians give us to stay the course but I doubt the compassion for the people of Iraq have little to do with us staying the course. Oil and oil interests are. I ask myself who has the most to gain from the war in Iraq and it always comes down to multinational oil interests who show little loyalty to any country (let alone the U.S.). No matter what a citizens political affiliation I would hope that the interests of the country would be foremost but Bush and his administration has repeatedly displayed his contempt for those interests.
The Bush presidency:
I wonder why politicians (both democrats and republicans) become very evasive when the word impeachment is brought into any conversation connected with Bush and Cheneys performance in office.
By Ranger Tommy, January 12, 2007 at 8:32 am Link to this comment
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The replacement of military leaders that are more amenable to this insanity remind me of the story of the airline pilot who reported—just before takeoff—that one of the engines appeared to be malfunctioning. So, they delayed takeoff just long enough to replace the pilot.
Report thisBy Konnie, January 12, 2007 at 7:48 am Link to this comment
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congress can only impeach the president, not the entire administration….so impeach the president and arrest all the rest of the administration for treason….....I think if we showed the world we were sorry we let these goons hijack our country and constitution, they might be willing to behave for awhile, until we could set things right. I will vote for the first candidate that states we will convert to any/all other renewable/sustainable fuel sources, the auto industry and oil companies be dammed, and let the middle east drown in their own crude! its not worth another dollar or life.
Report thisBy Big Al, January 12, 2007 at 7:18 am Link to this comment
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Joe Conason has no clue.
How can Joe Conason write a whole article about the Bush speech and fail to mention the most obviously important thing in it: namely, that Bush is planning to escalate the war massively by expanding it to Iran and Syria on any pretext he can find?
The Iraq war, including Bush’s piddling additon of troops, is nothing compared to what Bush is about to do in Iran.
Bush is proposing that we commit national suicide.
Report thisBy Michael Murry, January 11, 2007 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment
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The Democratic Party needs to reach out, grab Sheriff Cheney and Deputy Dubya by the throats, and CLAIM ETERNAL CREDIT for forcing an end to their WAR-JUST-TO-HAVE-ONE on Iraq.
As a Vietnam Veteran, I demandd this in memory of my friends and high-school classmates who perished in Southeast Asia specifically so that nothing as bloody stupid as all this would ever happen again.
(1) Cut off the funding. (2) Revoke the “authorization.” (3) Punish the perps. This country—and many others besides—has suffered enough because of reactionary Republicans and their Warfare-Welfare/Makework-Militarism. Time’s up. Stop this shit—and do it now. FAME and GLORY await the Democratic Party if it only will do its elected job. Disregard the hollow threats of hollow Republicans. They’ve shot their wad and they know it. Time to kick their sorry asses and bury them for a generation.
Report thisBy Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, January 11, 2007 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment
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Joe, you’re saying the obvious. Congress bought BS rationale four years ago. Most Americans were skeptical. When it became obvious the BS was BS, then it was time to get out. Americans knew that. Viet Nam continued on for years based on our Gov.‘s BS rationale. Americans knew that. History has taught me that American people cannot depend on their congress and certainly, their president, to make the right decisions when it comes to war. Those decisions have to be left to the voters. It won’t be as expiditious, but, the cost will most certainly be a lot less, in the long run. In fact, there likely will be no “long run.” I believe a constitutional amendment is in order.
Report thisBy Lynn, January 11, 2007 at 4:21 pm Link to this comment
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After a
cc : Vietnam
we will now get a
cc : Stalingrad
Obviously GWB is too young to remember who won.
Report thisBy 127001, January 11, 2007 at 4:14 pm Link to this comment
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I was just wondering how far the American people are willing to go to support their representatives in Congress in addition to having let them know their position on this?
Are we willing to initiate passive protests in support of our elected representatives that we ask to stop the added troops?
Are we willing to give “in real time” support to military personnel who choose to challenge their deployment, risking charges and jail sentences?
Are we willing to take local actions (and risks) to not only speak out, but to act out in passive ways against this horrifying and potentially disastrous decision?
Are we, as Americans, ready to walk the talk?
Report thisBy bill blackolivw, January 11, 2007 at 2:17 pm Link to this comment
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This was w.‘s first speech I have watched, his first to get my attention. What I firstly noticed was fear. There is very little for the public to know. I suspect he is not the one, or one of the ones, in command. He is the figurhead who is no longer happy. Incredibly, they want to attack Iran. And I wonder also, can it be like the authors of 9/11 AND AMERICAN EMPIRE: INTELLECTUALS SPEAK OUT contend, more people are waking up to the official nonsence of how skyscrapers hit(and #7 was not) by airplane can tumble directly on down into their “footprints.”
Report thisBy sheila, January 11, 2007 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment
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Ninety percent of the Iraqi people want us out of there.Why don’t the dem’s beat that drum? Impeach the sob. Dems can do that. Why on earth not?
Report thisBy rich blackmoor, January 11, 2007 at 11:23 am Link to this comment
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The Iraqi Hydrocarbon act which gives Big oil,Shell,Exxon,BP, the control of the oil and 75% of the profits . This act goes into effect at the end of march. The end of march is also when bushies troop escalation will be complete.
Report this95% of Iraq’s revenue is from oil. How do you think the Iraqi’s will react when they learn that 75% of their countries revenue is being taken by big western oil companies.
These are the same companies which were at Dick Cheyney’s energy meeting. The first secret US energy policy meeting.
It would be good for Congress to force the bushies to release records of what happened at this secret energy meeting. I am sure that they made the deal to attack Iraq and secure the oil.
So bush is sending troops to stop any rebellion from Iraqi’s when they learn that we are stealing all their oil money.
There is NO significant Al Qaida presence in Iraq. Their are Iraqi’s fighting for their country.
By Bert, January 11, 2007 at 10:33 am Link to this comment
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I agree with the last post, for the democrats to be effective in ending the Iraq war, it’s time to start saying the ‘I’ word, impeach. This one really does come down to what kind of ethics we’re willing to tolerate in Washington, to what standard, if any, we’re willing to hold Congress and ourselves to.
For any that are interested, there’s a website out there supporting impeachment: http://www.impeachbush.org
Report thisBy John Earl, January 11, 2007 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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Bush: cynical or delusional?
Whatever, the dems don’t need to play chicken with the chickenhawks!
Report thisBy richard, January 11, 2007 at 8:23 am Link to this comment
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Victory…what a joke….the world needs food not bombs you morons…
Report thisBy phil, January 11, 2007 at 6:42 am Link to this comment
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I wonder what it will take to bring peace to Iraq. The violence and work of the death squads who leave corpses as political statements would indicate that political debate will come from the barrel of a gun and the power tools used on Shia and Sunnni in the streets. Isn’t this a job for the blue helmets of the U.N.? Can the country be rebuilt using future oil revenues as collateral? I understand that if the country was secure and citizens could go about the business of living and rebuilding and securing a fair settlement of the various problems and needs all Iraquis share; then this would be a desirable outcome. How can this happen absent an armed and politically neutral force to establish and keep the peace?
Report thisBy george S Semsel, January 11, 2007 at 6:39 am Link to this comment
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It’s too late, Jon, to do anything. As Bush’s latest actions amply demonstrate, all power lies with the president. The congress, the people, can and will do nothing to stop him. The battle was lost in the year 2000.
Report thisBy rabblerowzer, January 11, 2007 at 6:30 am Link to this comment
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Surge strictly a political ploy.
Republicans are always planning ahead for the next election, and the next and the next. Democrats on the other hand are perennial fall guys, chumps who always end up blindsided by Republicans underhanded tactics. For example, Bushs surge wont win the war in Iraq, it is only intended to postpone defeat until it can be dumped on the next president, whom Republicans have reason to believe will be a Democrat. Republicans are not stupid. They know their record of corruption and war profiteering will likely to cost them the next presidential election, but that is a slap on the wrist considering the incredible profits they have stolen for their masters.
By 2012 most Americans will have forgotten that Republicans lied us into an unwinnable, but very profitable war, and Democrats will be blamed for losing the war. Then the GOPs plutocratic masters will reward them with bountiful campaign contributions which will insure their return to power.
The best poker players know they cant win every pot, they know when to hold em, when to fold, and when to go All In.
Isnt it about time for the chumps to wise up and to go All In? The Democrats need to grow a backbone, to choose a new strategy and go for broke. That means pinning the blame for Iraq on Republicans, and the only way they can do that is Impeach Bush and to end the war on his watch.
Theyve got to stop worrying about losing and concentrate on winning.
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