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Ron Kovic: Surging Past the Tipping Point

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Posted on Jan 9, 2007
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Disabled Vietnam War veteran and antiwar activist Ron Kovic, subject of the film “Born on the Fourth Of July,” reaches out to touch fingers with an admirer during a massive protest against U.S. involvement in Iraq.  The demonstration occurred in downtown Los Angeles in September 2005.

By Joshua Scheer

In an interview with Truthdig research editor Joshua Scheer, Ron Kovic, author of “Born on the Fourth of July,” argues that Americans this week have a patriotic and generation-defining duty to speak out against Bush’s proposal to escalate the war in Iraq with more U.S. troops.

Truthdig:  I understand you’re very incensed by Bush’s intention to escalate the Iraq war with a troop surge.

Kovic:  Absolutely. This week is a very crucial turning point in the war. We’re being led in a very reckless and dangerous direction. I don’t want to see more men and women come home like me—in wheelchairs for the rest of their lives. How many more have to die in a war that makes no sense? I feel like I’m seeing the mirror image of another Vietnam unfolding all over again, and I think we have never needed to break that silence and begin to speak more than we do now.

Truthdig: Has this war surpassed the Vietnam War in any way?

Kovic:  I think President Bush plans to provoke an even wider war in the Middle East in the coming months. That’s my prediction. He is going to escalate the war by sending more troops to Iraq in a war that we cannot win—a war that is only going to cause more violence, make us even bigger targets of terrorist attacks.

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Like many veterans of the Vietnam War, I’ve been in this wheelchair for almost 40 years. I’ve lived with the wounds of American foreign policy for almost four decades now. I saw American foreign policy firsthand, as did many others of my generation. And we learned the lessons of that war. I have serious doubts whether President Bush or the architects of this particular policy in the Middle East right now learned those lessons. And how many of those who are making the decision this week—how many of those talking heads, those so-called experts, who made the decision to have a troop surge, to escalate this war, to put more young men and women’s lives in harm’s way, to put more Iraqi civilians at risk—how many of them really served in a war, how many really understand the human cost of a war? How many really understand what it means to be wounded—whether you’re American or Iraqi? How many understand what it means to come home wounded? What it means to lose a son or daughter in a war? How many of them have been directly affected by this war?

Truthdig:  We hear so much about “support the troops” while they’re in war. But what does it mean to support the troops when so many of them are coming back home wounded?

Kovic:  I don’t see how this administration is supporting the troops when they’re clearly cutting back the budgets of the veterans hospitals around the country. That is outrageous. That is unacceptable. How can you spend billions of dollars fighting a war in Iraq and not care for those who are wounded when they come back home?

I have opposed this war from the very beginning. I was speaking out against it before it began. I sensed we were being deceived just as we were deceived during the Vietnam War. I wasn’t going to let it happen again. I made one promise to myself in 1968 after I was shot and paralyzed in Vietnam. (During those years that I was involved with the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, so I was speaking not only for myself, but for many, many other Vietnam veterans like myself who opposed that war, who went to jail with me.) We said back then, “We’re never going to allow what happened to our generation to ever happen again.” And to watch this nightmare unfold all over again….

And in particular this week, the outrage that not only I feel, but also all my brothers and sisters in the antiwar movement, and all my fellow citizens all over this country ... that outrage that all of us feel, that the majority of the people of this country oppose this war, including many of our generals and the architects of this policy….  And yet the president of the United States is acting like a dictator. He’s not listening to the people. What do we have to do? How many demonstrations do we have to have? How many hearings and investigations do we have to have before this president begins to listen to the people? Because isn’t that what America is supposed to be about?

We can make a difference, and I think this is an important week of reflection. For every single American; not just me, Ron Kovic, sitting in this wheelchair, or people who have been directly affected by the wars of this government, and who have been so grievously injured by policies that should never have been to begin with—we are more important than we realize. I think this is a week of important reflection for all of us. We have to really think about the direction this country is heading in right now. We have to ask ourselves, “Have we done enough? Have we the courage to really say what needs to be said? Have we the courage to really do what needs to be done?” Because lives are at stake, and people are dying on both sides. This is unacceptable. This is outrageous. Rather than listening to the voice of the people of the United States, and rather than listening to the Iraq Study Group’s conclusions, rather than listening to reason, the president of the United States has decided to do the exact opposite. He’s putting us all in greater danger. He’s creating the potential for a wider war, for a potential cataclysm, and he’s putting Americans’ lives in jeopardy. If the United States is attacked again, if, God forbid, there’s another 9/11, it should be directly attributed to the fact that, this crucial week, Bush decided to push forward in this very reckless agenda.

Truthdig:  You really think another 9/11 will happen because of the actions Bush takes this week?

Kovic:  I think the potential for another 9/11 or worse is there with this type of behavior. This is absolutely reckless. Talk to the generals. Talk to the average citizens on the street. I think there is great foreboding in this country, and I think there’s a tremendous amount of apprehension about the direction that the so-called commander in chief is leading this country in. We are making a decision that could very well affect the lives of the people of our country—not to mention the good and decent people of the Middle East, who are suffering because of this policy.

To speak out now and raise your voice against this policy, that’s what being an American is all about. That’s what patriotism is really all about. What is unpatriotic is allowing this all to happen—continuing to allow this administration to move our country into this dangerous situation that can only have consequences that I don’t even want to think about in the end. There’s going to be a sharp escalation in the rhetoric this week, and it’s going to be an opportunity for all of us as individual citizens to speak against this policy because we know it’s wrong for America, and because we know it’s hurting our troops, hurting this country. If you really love this country, if you really want to support the troops, you’re going to oppose this policy. You’re going to say: “Mr. President, you’re wrong. Mr. President, I’m just a regular citizen, I’m just a working person, but Mr. President, you’re leading us in the wrong direction. I know as a citizen that it is my right under the Constitution to speak freely and to say how I feel. And I’m not going to be intimidated by the events of Sept. 11. I sense what’s good for this country. I sense what’s wrong for this country, and you are taking a turn this week that is very dangerous. I sense, and we sense, that this direction must be altered.”

What do we have to do? Turn to civil disobedience? Well, every citizen must do what their heart tells them they must do. If you really care and love this country, you’re going to raise your voice. You’re going to speak out. You’re not going to remain silent anymore. And I think it was Martin Luther King Jr. who said in April 1967—a year before he was assassinated, during the height of the Vietnam War—“A time comes when silence is betrayal.” And the time has come in this country for us no longer to be silent. A time has come for every single one of us, whether we’re a part of academia, or whether we drive a taxi cab, or whether we’re a teacher or a professor, a time has come for every single one of us to take a stand. Whether we’re a college student in the confines of the finest universities in the country. If we have that privilege and good fortune to not be on the front lines, to not be in the war zone, we must take that step this week. And the voices must be heard. If you love this country, you’re going to step over that line that you’ve not stepped over before and you’re going to speak in a way you’ve never spoken before. You’re going to find the courage to do that.

Truthdig:  During the Vietnam War, there were more protests, more arrests than we’re seeing now, even though the approval rating for the war in Iraq is very, very low. It seems people aren’t taking to the streets en masse, as your generation did 40 years ago. Would you suggest they do that?

Kovic:  Absolutely. Absolutely. I’ll tell you another result of this week: We’re going to lose more American soldiers. First, let’s make clear what this troop surge really means:  It means more wounded. It means more dead. It means more Iraqis killed. It means more enraged citizens from not only Iraq but all over the Middle East. This escalation is going to enrage the Middle East even more. The region is going to become even more enraged and alienated from America with this policy. We’re going to lose friends everywhere. This war has done nothing but isolate America more and more. First of all, let’s look at the fact that before this war began, one of the biggest peace movements in the history of the world took to the streets. I believe it was Feb. 15, 2003. Make no doubt about it: That could happen again. But this time, you’re going to see folks who have never demonstrated before taking to the streets of this country. They’re going to demonstrate peacefully, in the spirit of Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela. You may see great numbers of people in the streets before this is over with. Because the people of this country, at a certain point—and it may just be starting this week—are not just going to take this anymore. There’s going to be a tipping point, and I think we’re reaching it. I think this week will go down in history as a moment when people began to awaken to the fact that they have been terribly misled in this country.

There’s a potential for great numbers of Americans going to the streets. There’s a fierce outrage that’s growing in this country. And believe me: That outrage is going to be felt and heard by this administration. I don’t know what it’s going to take to stop this war, but I know that at a certain point—and it’s already beginning to happen—the dam is going to break, and this country is going to experience demonstrations and civil disobedience to this war in a way it’s never experienced before in its history.

Truthdig:  Thanks very much.


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By joaka, May 18, 2008 at 1:54 am Link to this comment
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i love yoo man, i am an spanish man who has seen the film and reed yor book when i have only 18 years old, your life is an inspiration to me, the only think that you can read this lines any time ,it make me very proud, i have seen the film a thousend times, really i respect you very much, greetings from spain madrid, for my friend, ronnie, if you can send my any message, ill be the most gratefully man in the world, sincerely joaquin.

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By Richard Insel, March 8, 2008 at 10:04 pm Link to this comment
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It is men such as yourself that have transformed paradox and conflict into windows of our very soul, which has reinforced the values which motivate my work in the non -for-profit sector(mental health) for 25 years..The inner core of dignity and purpose,possessed by all has been enhanced from its’ transcendent state to A tangible reality in the cause you so fevently espouse .I am also A prodoct of the 60’s and identify with much that you have said .Although we have never met ,considered youself loved as A soul brother .However their is no danger in brothers sometimes disagreeing.Our values are consistent,however at times our ego is tempted to process all reality into existing mental structures.Carl Jung speeks abuot the mythic figure of Procrustes who was known for his hospitality and for his magic bed.After hosting stangers he claimed they can rest on this bed which changed size depending who slept on it.What he failed to mention was the process by which it occured-he stretch or tightened the lombs of his quests once they were asleep.Ron I am with you and here you but overgeneralizing may cloud our perspectives.I do not blame our leaders for 9/11. As a human being ,analyst and theologian I have tried to identify with the needs of the heterogeneous population which make up the Middle East .Arab, Muslim ,Christian ,Jew and non-believer potentially can all be part of this beautiful mosaic.I had lived there for seven years during years of war and peace.THere are images which will always remain with me.I have witnessed the barbaric slaughter of weomen and children in the name of Allah. I have personally witnessed Israeli soldiers risk their lives in order not to harm innocent civillians while I have seen whole communities of Israel’s enemies dancing for joy at the news of A terror attack which killed and maimed innocent children.Thank God I hane the tools at my dispossal to do the inner-work I needed to do so that these horrific events do not limit my experiences in the moment with people of all cultures.However inner-work has also allowed me to ACCEPT that at times evil and dangerous ideologies do exist without becomoing intoxicated with A generalized negativity to an entire culture.In conclusion, I feel comfortable as A Jew feeling that my Arab brothers are part of me and the body of humankind that we form.However, this does not preclude me from condemning those that espouse the destruction of Israel and those Western countries that support her existence within secure and viable boundries.
    Ron I would like to meet with you when I come to California.I hope my espousing peace but cautioning against the perils of over-generalization did not offend you in anyway.
  Love &Respect;Richard

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By sam, November 20, 2007 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment
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http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/msg30790.html

Americans secretly fed Plutonium for DECADES Mon May 17, 2004 9:30 pm    

Plutonium Files: How the U.S. Secretly Fed Radioactivity To Thousands of Americans

From: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/05/1357230

Wednesday, May 5th, 2004

Denver-based journalist Eileen Welsome reveals how as a reporter for the tiny Albuquerque Tribune (circulation 35,000) she uncovered one of the country’s great Cold War secrets: the U.S. government had knowingly exposed thousands of human Guinea pigs with radiation poisoning including 18 Americans who had plutonium injected directly into their bloodstream. In a Massachusetts school, seventy-three disabled children were spoon-fed oatmeal laced with radioactive isotopes.

In an upstate New York hospital, an eighteen-year-old woman believing she was being treated for a pituitary disorder, was injected with plutonium.

At a Tennessee clinic, 829 pregnant women were served “vitamin cocktails” containing radioactive iron, as part of their regular treatment.

No these are not acts of terrorism by common criminals.

These are just some of the secret human radiation experiments that the U.S. government conducted on unsuspecting Americans for decades as part of its atom bomb program.

In a gruesome plot that spanned 30 years, doctors and scientists working with the US atomic weapons program, exposed thousands of unwilling and unknowing Americans to radiation poisoning to study its effects.

For years, the experiments by the U.S. government and the identities of their human guinea pigs were covered up.

Then after a six-year investigation, investigative reporter Eileen Welsome uncovered the names of 18 people who were injected with plutonium in the 1940s without their knowledge by federal government scientists. In 1993, she published her finding in The Albuquerque Tribune and later received the Pulitzer Prize for her work.

Another six years later, Welsome published “The Plutonium Files: America’s Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War.” The book gives a detailed account of the unspeakable scientific trials conducted by the U.S. government that reduced thousands of American men, women, and even children to nameless specimens.

* Eileen Welsome, Pulitzer prize-winning reporter and author of “The Plutonium Files: America’s Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War.”

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By Dale Headley, March 4, 2007 at 10:39 am Link to this comment
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Here’s a question: why don’t we ever see Ron Kovic on the mainstream media, given his eloquent, articulate, passion?  Wouldn’t you expect the “liberal mainstream media” to put him forth, front and center?  Wouldn’t you expect to see Noam Chomsky, or Gore Vidal, or Mario Cuomo, or any of a number of thoughtful (true) liberals more often?  Hmmm, could it be that the corporate-owned media is not quite as lefty as Rush Limbaugh asserts?

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By enemy of the people, February 26, 2007 at 11:00 am Link to this comment
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Ron,

Every time i see your name in headlines i am reassured you are fighting the good fight. I am willing to bet when you were on the Cua Viet you never imagined how your life would turn out.

You are an inspiration to all…

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By Bert, February 24, 2007 at 2:06 am Link to this comment
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Freedom starts at the breaker box/ your car door.
Stop the consumption cycle, dry up the revenue stream, watch the CEO’s try and jump through their asses trying to preserve their enterprise…
Japan ‘gets it’, Brazil ‘gets it’, and increasingly, americans are starting to ‘get it’, but we get bombarded by so much media bullshit, it’s not even funny anymore. Matter of fact, it’s kind of sinister, and a Very Good Reason for ending the Iraq war, actually 2 reasons, are both Halliburton, and Dick Cheney himself.

This administration’s run the country 3 trillion further into the red. 1.2 trillion AND counting of that got blown on Iraq etc. The ‘war on terror’ could fairly be renamed ‘war without end’, a la ‘the forever war’ a good old read by Joe Haldeman should you find yourself having the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War

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By c woof, February 23, 2007 at 5:45 am Link to this comment
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I don’t understand the nomenclature being used today. The problem, as I understand it, is that Baghdad is out of control. Bush (and some other people—John McCain, evidently) thinks that it can be brought under control by using Coalition forces (read:US troops,) only there aren’t enough there to get the job done. So, he’s proposed adding to the troop levels in order to be able to do the job—ie, sent in reinforcements to back up those already there. What’s with ‘surge?’ What the hell is a ‘surge?’ I thought everyone understood the concept of reinforcements. I mean, if one proposed to clean up Baghdad, and one doesn’t think there are enough troops there, what would be the solution? What’s so hard about that?

Now, whether the premise is valid is another thing. Whether it is possible to ‘clean up Baghdad’ with any number of troops at this point. I personally think it might be, but only if all the troops were in Baghdad. I think 21,000 or even 41,000 is a little iffy.

But I’m suspicious of the timing. Why now? Why not a year ago? Why not 6 months from now? Are they timing if for the 2008 election? Do they know something we don’t? Is it just because the news day by day by day is so appalling that even they finally reached the breaking point? Is it because they lost last fall’s election and no longer feel they have a free ride? Are they trying to lock down something they thought would be more easily achieved when they owned Congress?

I think there was another, more sinister reason underlying the ‘surge’ of reinforcements—I think the timing has to do with the Iraqi Oil Agreement that is being hammered out even as we sleep. It’s the thing that is going to dictate how Iraqi oil is divided up in the foreseeable future and it’s taking place out of sight of the American public. I mean, it’s why we’re there, after all. By the time the smoke clears, the Iraqis will find that their oil has been signed away to the foreign oil companies now lusting after it. I also think that was what the big energy policy meeting Chaney had early in this administration was all about, long before even 9/11 and why to this day that meeting remains secret, in spite of many efforts on the part of the press to get what happened made public.

The reinforcements were sent to be in Baghdad when the news of the agreement leaked out and a lot of unhappy Iraqis hit the streets.

So, if I’m right, watch for that in the future.

Myself, I think, like everything else this admin has done, the whole concept is flawed with incompetence and only time will tell. I see no good end in Iraq now that Pandora’s box has been opened. And I don’t see world opinion allowing the Bush admin to steal Iraqi oil. But I also see them trying.

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By Jim DiChristofero, February 15, 2007 at 11:31 am Link to this comment
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I would just like to say that Ron Kovic has my deepest respect. My brother and I also served during the Vietnam war.I,like Ron and many others thought that no one else would have to go thru what our generation did because of our sacrifices.It seems like dejevu to see us falling into another deep hole!I thought this was a democracy of the people, not a ditatorship! Can the draft be far behind? History repeats itself when we don’t learn from it!

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By John, February 3, 2007 at 1:45 pm Link to this comment
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Today Hiliary Clinton proclaimed that if the war is not over BEFORE 2009 and she’s elected President she will end the war (that she voted to start and had she been President and been given the same information as Bush you have to assume she would have gone to war then also). Now my question is this….since Democrats now have a clear majority in congress and since the democracts ran on ending the war….WHY WOULD WE BE EVEN REMOTELY BE THINKING THAT THE USA WILL STILL BE IN IRAQ FOR 2 MORE YEARS.  If we are still in Iraq in 2 years every Dem.in Congress should resign or be impeached for lying.

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By Robert Greer, February 1, 2007 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment
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I applaud Ron Kovic for fighting for what he believes in. John Kerry has taught us that in a war there are heroes on both sides. Truly Ron is a man of courage for standing up to the many millions of people that do not think like Ron.
In a nation without a big peace movement,
it has not been easy for antiwar veterans
to persuade their onetime brothers in arms
to join their cause.
Veterans’ activist groups say their numbers are rising, but so far, membership has been limited.
Despite a pool of 26 million U.S. vets,
Veterans for Peace has just 4,000 members nationwide.
Veterans for Common Sense has 3,000.
Military Families Speak Out has 1,600.
Vietnam Veterans Against the War,
which in the early 1970s had 30,000 members
(including John Kerry), now has 1,600.
Since these groups have overlapping memberships,
the community of vocal antiwar vets
is even smaller than it seems.
http://www.vfpmaine.org/carole whelan page.htm
I support peace, common sense, family values and I support the United States military as the best means of achieving world peace.
Welcome Home, Ron Kovic !

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By Bert, February 1, 2007 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment
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Write to your representatives, tell them that you support impeachment.

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By Moe Hare, January 30, 2007 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment
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John Hanks,
If H5N1 flu virus is your biggest concern, stay away from chickens.

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By Andrew, January 30, 2007 at 3:15 am Link to this comment
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Creating Threats among the common people not for the terrorists.Humanity will suffer due to war.

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By John Hanks, January 24, 2007 at 9:34 pm Link to this comment
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Probably the greatest external threat to us comes from the worst insurgency of all - the H5N1 flu virus.  The idiots who acted out the fortress American delusion after 911, will do the same with this virus.  There is no real defense in quaranteens, which will only delay the inevitable, huge death rates.  We have to stay home as much as we can and keep the infrastructure going.  The flu is the worst insurgency/occupation and it is very likely.  Organizations, like college campuses, are making quaranteen plans now. (Tell your friends, the ruling idiots may try to keep it a secret)

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By Freeborn, January 24, 2007 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment
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Well said Ron Kovic!Please God we have reached the tipping point and Bush will not be allowed to spread his war.
The neo-cons got their new Pearl Harbour with 9/11 but like Tonkin when you start to lose a war people become more dubious about the indecently threadbare arguments that were used to get them on side.Millions may die in Bush’s inept efforts to save face.Yet the image of the US as aggressive but incompetent behemoth and global player losing its influence in the world to China,Russia,even Iran is an image the world will not forget.
Yes,the tipping point has arrived the US will be driven out of Iraq,its people will finally sweep the corrupt system that got them into this mess aside and build afresh.Iraqis will do the same but they will likely recover their confidence and prestige far quicker than the US!

          Freeborn

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By Antwoine, January 22, 2007 at 1:53 am Link to this comment
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Soldiers are pawns. Anyone who allows themselves to be used as such have less dignity and integrity for the acts they commited…as pawns. I torched some village. Killed innocents because I had no time to find out the truth if they were innocent or not. I followed orders. I did my job. The job of killing for politicians with hidden agendas. No one in Iraq right now can tell you why we are still there. We got Saddam. We have friends in the Middle East that will give us oil. Who is looking for Osama Bin Laden?
Soldiers are sold on some notion that the US is always right. Only to return, if they are lucky, feeling betrayed and lied to. They believe in the Code, they honor their Unit, they follow commands that break the laws of humanity, and are discarded just as easliy as they were recruited. Soldiers are promised money and a better way of life, because none of them will ever make more than $40,000 a year in or once they are out of the military. When attacked it is only fair to respond in an equal way. When Pearl Harbor was attacked we responed, even though it was not apart of the mainland of the United States. No other time before that had the US been invaded by anyone, but our politicians have seen it fit to go around the world and bomb eveyone else for material gain using our soldiers. Some willingly. Many against their will(the black man), Many as a means to escape poverty, some for revenge…..all cannon fodder.
Vietnam had no effect on the powers that be, because here we are again….with men willingly picking up guns against each other on both sides….pawns, who only grow balls to stand up against injustice after the fact!!! After they come back with scars they never had before they left!! If you make it back and protest the powers that be do not hear you, but they thank you for those that you killed and wish you had come back in a box so they don’t have to foot the bill to take care of you!! They send you off to war as boys and you come back a broken man!! Someone mentioned our military taking action against Bush & Company…..hahahahahhaaaa…That will be the day!

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By Neal, January 21, 2007 at 9:47 pm Link to this comment
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This is different than Vietnam because
Bush had a plan for getting out of Vietnam.

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By Steve Hammons, January 19, 2007 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment
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Kovic speaks from the experience of the Vietnam War era. Similar, or even worse dynamics are in play now. It’s getting scary.

These elements are explored in the article below:

Going in circles: Vietnam, Iraq, calls for impeachment

Steve Hammons
American Chronicle
January 12, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=19080

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By yours truly, January 18, 2007 at 3:08 pm Link to this comment
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Hey,  feel it everyone?  Feel what?  The momentum, that’s what.  It’s shifting our way,  and so much so now that all we have to do to turn things completely around is see to it that Congress cuts off all funding for the Iraq war, after which it impeaches President George Bush.  And then?  It’ll be up to us.

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By Spike, January 17, 2007 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment
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Islamofascism?
How about Christianofascism & Judeofascism?

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By John Hanks, January 17, 2007 at 10:55 am Link to this comment
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Ron Kovic is a real soldier.  He could stand with the soldiers on Bunker Hill and stay standing until all the others are cut down along with him in what is always a dubious battle.  I won’t insult him by suggesting he belongs on a plaster pedestal but I will say that he is an exception to the militaristic and pacifistic crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards that are such an embarrasment today.

The human race is a bunch of predators consisting mostly of hormones with a tiny set of brains on top.  It has never avoided a catastrophe like a depression or a great war, or even the slow chiseling and gouging of capitalism.  Hope is always false in the long run, but lets keep annoying the useless bastards anyway.

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By Sheila Sharp, January 16, 2007 at 11:25 pm Link to this comment
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I know this might sound insane but what IF we could get the Army to intervene on behalf of our country to oppose this government???
They could say that we are having a “Constitutional Crisis"I believe this is the only way we could have a revolution…this is something my father shared with me in the early 70’s he is a vet from WWII and is a Troskyite
it is his view that you need at least one half of the Armed Forces to accomplish a successful take over and reinstate a legal government with the Constitution being enforced!!!
Hi Ron it’s been years your still my “Yanky Doodle Dandy!”

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By Lily Maskew, January 16, 2007 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment
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It is clear - we must STOP BUSH NOW.  The prdictions that he wants to escalate the war even further than he states are true.  Do we want to end up in a war with Iran next?  Enough is enough!  Demonstrations, letters to editors, e-mails to Congress; we must do anything and everything we can think of to make sure this man is out of office immediately!

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By Larry, January 16, 2007 at 11:03 am Link to this comment
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It will take more than protests to stop this kind of insanity!

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By Shhazam4, January 14, 2007 at 3:22 pm Link to this comment
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Bush wanted to spend the big budget that a ground invasion would create.

  Afghanistan was done with a relatively low budget of smart bombs and special ops. using opposition forces for most of the ground fighting. But this was not creating the desired slush fund of Federal dollars.

Before the job could be finished in Afghanistan; and without regard for getting the 9-11-07 perpetrators, GWB and his cronies, wanted to take advantage of the current anti-“ism” moment (it was anti-communism in the Johnson/Nixon era) and get some of the tax dollars into the hands of their friends and supporting industries by starting the Iraq mess.

Now we have two wars not getting resolved with the current “ism” alive, well and thriving.  Why, because, our boys in DC don’t really want to address the causes of the current “ism”.

The last “ism” finally failed when we took care of our own house and showed the world that our system works better.  Today, if we had better leadership, we could back to making our system better and show the current “ism” why their way is a failure.

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By Joe, January 14, 2007 at 8:36 am Link to this comment
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Re: #47353 Kellina,

You said: 

“A lot of the generals are upset/resigning in protest. Now if we could just persuade the Secret Service!” The CIA?! And then, “Probably just talking about this is going to get me in trouble. I forgot, we don’t have free speech anymore.”

Scary world we’re living in. How’d the American people / the ‘land of the free and the brave’ ever let it happen? Perhaps with a little assistance from their ‘coalition partners’, huh?

“On 17 October [2006], President Bush signed a bill that legalised torture and kidnapping and effectively repealed the Bill of Rights and habeas corpus. The ‘CIA’ can now legally abduct people and ‘render’ them to secret prisons in countries where they are likely to be tortured. Evidence extracted under torture is now permissible in ‘military commissions’; people can be sentenced to death based on testimony beaten out of witnesses. You are now guilty until confirmed guilty. And you are a ‘terrorist’ if you commit what ... Orwell, in Nineteen Eighty-Four, called ‘thoughtcrimes’. Bush has revived the prerogatives of the Tudor and Stuart monarchs: the power of unrestricted lawlessness. ‘America can be proud,’ said Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the bill’s promoters, who stood with other congressmen, clapping as Bush signed away the American constitution and the essence of American democracy.”

“... wrote the American historian Alfred McCoy, ‘[what is happening] is a contest of power versus justice . . . Viewed historically, it is a fight over fundamental principles reaching back nearly 400 years.’ Not long ago, I [JP] interviewed Dianna Ortiz, an American nun tortured by a Guatemalan death squad whose leader she identified as a fellow American. This was the time of ‘Ronald Reagan’, who was as ‘murderous’ in Central America as Bush is in the Middle East. ‘You can’t claim to be a democracy if you practise or condone torture,’ she said. ‘It is the ultimate test’.”

“‘National security’ is the euphemism for the forbidden word, ‘imperialism’, whose despotic power has accelerated under George W Bush. Secret presidential ‘signing decrees’ that can overturn the rare opposition of an otherwise ‘supine’  [marked by or showing lethargy, passivity, or blameworthy indifference] Congress are now normal practice, along with a gulag of secret prisons, described approvingly by Bush as ‘the CIA programme’. The United States today is an extension of the totalitarianism it has long sought to impose abroad. That unpalatable truth is unspoken, of course; in spite of his current ‘difficulties’ over Iraq, corporate propaganda remains on Bush’s side. The search for an ‘exit strategy’ may make ‘embarrassing’ headlines, but the deliberate, systematic looting of billions of dollars of Iraq’s resources has been quietly achieved, with an estimated $20bn ‘missing’. The same silence applies to the class and race war at home, as ‘the Bush gang’ kicks away the ladder that once led to the American middle class. Last January, 25,000 people applied for 325 jobs at a Wal-Mart in Chicago.”

Excerpted from John Pilger’s piece of 2 Nov 2006, “The Blair doctrine: blood and money”.
http://pilger.carlton.com/page.asp?partid=416

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By Ben Takin, January 13, 2007 at 9:17 pm Link to this comment
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U.S. Troops do not want to be “sitting ducks” in an Iraqi Civil war!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article16142.htm

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By Druthers, January 13, 2007 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment
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This is their big chance in their delirious world domination goal to take out Iran…and there is so little time left.
What is a Constitution, a Congress, a people when power and control are all they really desire.

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By thewind, January 13, 2007 at 11:21 am Link to this comment
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I hate to say it, but they won’t stop, they will secure the oil because they know the earth is in for some huge changes due to a “warming” or I would say BURNING! And I am not speaking of “global warming” I am speaking of something much worse…..........they know it, most people are distracted by all the “manmade” stuff to see what is really happening…......have you noticed the weather is not quite right?

Well Ron is a hero and he is right, but they won’t stop period….........promise!

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By Kellina, January 13, 2007 at 8:11 am Link to this comment
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Charles, you are right. Protest is not enough. Impeachment is not enough. We need a revolution.

All that takes is to have the military on our side. It’s possible. There have been defections to Canada. A lot of the generals are upset/resigning in protest. Now if we could just persuade the Secret Service! Probably just talking about this is going to get me in trouble. I forgot, we don’t have free speech anymore.

Seventy percent of the public is against the policies of the Bush Junta, so perhaps the military is not needed. I envision the march on Washington marching right up the White House doors and demanding the President’s ouster. Of course, we can no longer get anywhere near the WH. They anticipated that. After 9/11 all the pieces of the police state fell into place. We’d be trapped and herded into detention camps. We certainly wouldn’t make it onto the 6 o’clock news. The media belongs to Bush&Co;.

How about offering these poor young people going into the military some alternative incentives? Start a pool to help pay their college costs? Ooops, scratch that, the military is recruiting non-citizens by promising immigration (if they live through the perma war).

What will it take for us to all stand up and say “ENOUGH!” “Basta!” What if Bush gave a speech baldly declaring his intent to bomb the hell out of every country in the Middle East that will not bow to our wishes (which appear to coincidentally coincide with Israel’s wishes)? What if he came out and said that millions would be killed and the countries ruined with radiation. Iraq is already ruined with radiation (‘depleted’ uranium). Will that be enough for us to rise up and destroy this administration? This is happening, people! Isn’t there some other intelligence agency in the world that can help us perform a covert operation to extract these assholes from office?

How about a one-day strike? March on Washington on Jan 27 or else STAY HOME FOR PEACE.

I’m sick of all this blogging without action. We WILL be held accountable. IF you live and IF your descendants live, someday you will have to look in your children’s or grandchildren’s eyes and tell them what you did, not what you said, to stop this madness. Go ahead and call your congress people. But in addition, DO something.

Don’t let them bomb Iran/Syria. Such action will set up an irreversible chain of events. We’ll be devasted economically if not militarily. Our nation’s experiment with democracy is ending, don’t let them take our country. We have a limited time to do this.

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By Charles, January 12, 2007 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment
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Ron,

Fine article and fine sentiments but unfortunately you seem to place too much faith in this administration listening to protests and demands by the American people.

The Vietnam War was driven by different objectives of containing communism and maintaining the dominance of US imperialism and hegemony in Vietnam and South East Asia during the time of the Cold War.

This invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan is still driven partly by the U.S. imperialist’s aim to control oil resourses in the region and to gain a geo-strategic advantage in the region but it’s also driven by the interests of Israel and the Zionists who’ve managed to influence the Bush administration and others through their neo-conservative think thanks’ lobbies and people in key positions.

Thus the administration couldn’t care less even if the majority of the American people rejected them in the 2006 Congressional elections nor the opinion poll, so would it listen to people protesting in the street.

Democracy as far as they are concerned is people choosing them to sit in political office and after that they can make decisions whatever they like, even if it goes against the wishes o fthe people an dthis is the reality of all bourgeois democracy, whether congressional, presidential, parliamentary or otherwise.

Also yes! There was a draft during the Vietnam war when anybody, inlcuding college students could be called up to serve in Vietnam but now it’s up to a professional army, many drawn form the poorer and less privileged segments of society, to do the fighting, dying and suffering, while the lily-white kids can carry on with their indulgent, self-absorbed, hedonistic lives without a worry in the world.

Also, if the U.S. military can’t find enough Americans willing to sign up and fight, they can, as they are already doing to an extent—recruit desperate people from other countries to serve in the U.S. military in return to a fast-track to U.S. residence and citizenship.

Then it will just be like the situation of migrant workers, documented or un-documented, who do the dirty work, white Americans don’t want to—out of sight and out of mind.

The solution isn’t just peaceful protest and making demands of the administration to change but needs to go further as a revolution demanding the administration step down, while taking the legal path to expose whatever complicity or cimes the administration or the neo-conesrvatives are gulty of.

It must also go further to address the economic hardships and declining living standards of working class and middle class Americans, the reasons why and to stop it and turn it around.

History is replete with examples of people being driven to revolution through economic hardship.

For example, if it was not for taxation imposed on the colonies by King George, would the Americans been driven to fight for independence from the British, merely by ideals of national independence?

The French Revolution was driven by economic hardship of the French masses, so was the Russian Revolution.

When President marcos was brought down, it was the economic hardship of the Philippino people which drove them to miltancy.

Even without revolution, it was only after President Suharto of Indonesia removed subsidies on food and essential items in accordance with IMF dictates that the Indonesia people rose up and revolted to remove him, rather than ideals of democracym human rights and son on.

Hitler came to power in Germany through electroral means because he offered a way out from the economic hardship suffered by the German people at the time.

Thus ideals are fine and are great for talking about over coffee or a beer but moving the masses to affect real change and take control comes when the ideals are linked to relief from economic hardship and the promise of a better economic future.

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By Bill Blackolive, January 12, 2007 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment
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Ron. I read your book a couple decades back, am glad you are living.  Perhaps matters are worse than you know. Read 9/11 AND AMERICAN EMPIRE: INTELLECTUALS SPEAK OUT.  It is ridiculous skyscrapers engineering defect or what the fuck can get past that much gravity and fall straight.  It has never happened before, without controll of demolition breaking steel simultaneously.  Otherwise there are larger skyscraper fires recorded, none fell. Why should they fall, steel outside boiler condition or explosion does not melt. All while corporate media like bullied children cannotthink nor speak of a third building that went down without being hit by airplane.  Ok, read the book, be braver than our journalists, some who have indeed secretly encouraged me.

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By Bob Flanagan, January 11, 2007 at 6:53 pm Link to this comment
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As the founding member,of the Ron Kovik chapter of Vet,for peace. i must say to whoever may read this. How proud i am to call Ron Kovik my friend. Ron is an inspiration to a whole generation of the Vietnam era,A man who made a commitment to speak out against any injustice in this country or for that matter the world. When Ron Kovik speaks out against this war in Iraq,He speaks for me and thousands of Veterans who abhor war and it;s futility. Ron is right this is a turning point it is time for us to hit the streets and raise our voices in peaceful outrage. this madness must stop. George Bush is not our Ceaser,no president is he works for us the people of the United States.and the people have already spoken in the last election we sent a message to end this war. IMPEACH GEORGE BUSH,AND GOD BLESS RON KOVIC

            BOB FLANAGAN

            RON KOVIK CHAPTER
            VET;S FOR PEACE
            WORCESTER MA.

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By Gary K, January 11, 2007 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment
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Ron Kovic is right on target. We are way beyond the point of attempting an intelligent dialogue with the despotic maniac in the white and his criminal neocon cabal. The time is long overdue for the complete mobilization of all who wish to restore sanity to our foreign policy and to preserve our constitution and freedoms.

I was very alarmed by the “decider’s” speech, yesterday. He disregarded all of the proposals put forth by the Iraq Study Group. He ignored the advice give him by his top military people after firing them because they told him that the emperor is naked. I am mostly alarmed because of his not so veiled threats to Iran along with the naval show-of-force in the Golf.

If this meglomaniac continues in this direction I see it leading directly into world war III. BUSH MUST BE STOPPED, NOW!!!!

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By Paul Craig Roberts - Part II, January 11, 2007 at 9:19 am Link to this comment
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Part II

Now is the chance – the only chance – for Israel and the neoconservatives to achieve their goal of bringing Muslims to heel, a goal that they have been writing about and working to achieve for a decade.

This goal requires the war to be widened by whatever deceit and treachery necessary to bring the American public along.

The US Congress must immediately refocus its attention from the surge to Iran, the real target of Bush administration aggression.

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By Paul Craig Roberts - Part I, January 11, 2007 at 9:18 am Link to this comment
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The Real Surge          

by Paul Craig Roberts (former Reagan Cabinet member, is worried that the new Democratic Congress is focused on Iraq while the real target is Iran)

Part I

Puzzlement over President Bush’s appointment of a US Navy admiral as commander in charge of the ground wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The appointment makes sense only if the administration’s attention has shifted from the insurgencies to an attack on Iran.

The Bush administration has recently doubled its aircraft carrier forces and air power in the Persian Gulf. According to credible news reports, the Israeli air force has been making practice runs in preparation for an attack on Iran.

Recently, Israeli military and political leaders have described Israeli machinations to manipulate the American public and their representatives into supporting or joining an Israeli assault on Iran.

Two US carrier task forces or strike groups will certainly congest the Persian Gulf. On January 9, a US nuclear sub collided with a Japanese tanker in the Persian Gulf. Two carrier groups will have scant room for maneuver. Their purpose is either to provide the means for a hard hit on Iran or to serve as sitting ducks for a new Pearl Harbor that would rally Americans behind the new war.

Whether our ships are hit by Iran in retaliation to an attack from Israel or suffer an orchestrated attack by Israel that is blamed on the Iranians, there are certainly far more US naval forces in the Persian Gulf than prudence demands.

Bush’s proposed surge appears to have no real military purpose. The US military opposes it as militarily pointless and as damaging to the US Army and Marine Corps. The surge can only be accomplished by keeping troops deployed after the arrival of their replacements. Moreover, the increase in numbers that can be achieved in this way are far short of the numbers required to put down the insurgency and civil war.

The only purpose of the surge is to distract Congress while plans are implemented to widen the war.

Weapons inspectors have failed to find a nuclear weapons program in Iran. Most experts say it would be years before Iran could make a weapon even if the Iranian government is actively working on a weapons program. Since the danger, if any, is years away, why is Israel so determined to attack Iran now?

The answer might be that Israel has the chance now. The Bush administration is in its pocket. The White House is working with neoconservatives, not with the American foreign policy community represented by the Iraq Study Group. Neoconservative propagandists are in influential positions in the media. The US Congress is intimidated by AIPAC. The correlation of forces are heavily in Israel’s favor.

Part of the Israeli/neoconservative plan has already been achieved with the destruction of civilian infrastructure and spread of sectarian strife in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. If Iran can be taken out with a powerful air attack that might involve nuclear weapons, Syria would be isolated and Hezbollah would be cut off from Iranian supplies.

Israel has two years remaining to use its American resources to achieve its aims in the Middle East. How influential will Israel and the neoconservatives be with the next president in the wake of a US defeat in Iraq and Israeli defeat in Lebanon? If the US withdraws its troops from Iraq, as the US military and foreign policy community recommend and as polls show the American public wants, the only effect of Bush’s Iraq invasion will have been to radicalize Muslims against Israel, the US, and US puppet governments in the Middle East. Extremist elements will tout their victory over the US, and the pressures on Israel to accept a realistic accommodation with Palestinians will be overpowering.

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By Vic Anderson, January 10, 2007 at 8:12 pm Link to this comment
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Blow Heard Round the World:
De-escalate on Bush, for IMPEACHMENT!

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By Ted Buila, January 10, 2007 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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Lot of words Ron. Let me beat up on you a bit.

If you wanted to say that nine grams of lead was the answer, say it.  Don’t hold your breath.  High school band going someplace—where’s the march?  No one should have to march on your watch.  Don’t even suggest it. 

I did my time..albeit reluctantly…along with a ton of other fellows. Why not just say it:  Reinstitute a public service draft for everyone…bum legs, livers and all—Uncle Sam has a job for you. Everyone.  Make grad school, med, law, engineering, b-schools off limits for the cohort until their service is done.

Sorry, I see a paid army/RAs + contractor mercenaries way different than draftees. Perhaps I shouldn’t?  Ron, don’t begin to tell me what they’re doing is all for me/that I should be greatful.  I’m pissed at what they’re doing.  Full stop. 

What about 100k-plus maybe 500k-plus dead/mained Iraqies/Afghans?  And the superfund sites we’ll NEVER clean up/NEVER had any intention of.  How do they count in your calculus Ron..or do they?

You know as well as I do that the quickest way to get the gang home/get a march started is to stop cutting checks. 

As far as restoring what we broke-shot up; folks-kids we mained/killed; countryside we’re fouling up/turning into superfund sites…there isn’t enough money. 

We just gotta leave now..leave the equipment/blow the ordinance..the Chokidar will take care of the rest.

Ted

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By j duran, January 10, 2007 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment
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RON, of course your right,i agree on everything you say,we have to stop the WAR and bring the soldiers home,it is cruel and unjust punishment for them to be there in IRAQ,  julie

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By Gary K, January 10, 2007 at 12:45 pm Link to this comment
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RE. COMMENT 46454

The real fascists are the neo-conservatives who include all of the current Bush regime. Bush was selected and supported by this group back in the 90s so that he would implement, as president, their “grand design” for an American oligarchial world empire. Iraq is merely the first step for controlling the entire region as well as its oil reserves.

That plan is now imploding in Iraq and elsewhere in the middle East and Bush is desparately trying to salvage what remains of it in order to complete his commitment to the neocons.

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By Toby, January 10, 2007 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment
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Years ago in the electronics department of the store where I shop (NOT WAL-MART!) Bush came on the several TV’s turned on and began to stumble his way through a speech. Couldn’t help it ... I began to boo, when to my surprise another joined in, then another until everyone in the department was booing joined by a few outside the department who had come over to see what was going on. Long story short, from that day to this, they have all the TV’s turned off or playing the same kids DVD.

I asked the clerk about this one day and he asked, “Why, do you want to watch Bush?” I said no. He replied, “Well, neither does anyone else!”

Point being, Bush and his supporters, including the mega-corporations that support him know perfectly well what we the people think of him and them. The truth is, they don’t care.

But there are a few out there who STILL don’t know what’s going on, and I’m not talking about the small percent who give Bush high points. They will never be reached, so don’t waste your time. Focus instead on those who, for whatever reason really don’t understand. And, your elected Senators and Representatives, some who apparently still don’t understand!

My two Senators and Rep have gone on record as saying they will not support an escalation in Iraq, and will do whatever’s necessary to stop it. They are three.

HOW MANY THREES WILL IT TAKE TO TURN THE LEADERSHIP AROUND?

Has anybody bothered to find out?

We each need to contact our senators and rep. PHONE, then FAX, then DO IT AGAIN until you get a commitment from them. http://www.senate.gov/  http://www.house.gov/  Then let the battle between those with the guts to listen to their constituents versus those who prefer to listen to their political advisers begin!

In the meantime, Kovic is correct!

“If you love this country, you’re going to step over that line that you’ve not stepped over before. You’re going to find the courage to do that.”

And while you’re at it find time to thank those who already have! Were it not for them, repub control in congress might still be the awful reality!

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By winterfire6, January 10, 2007 at 11:34 am Link to this comment
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The military is being rapidly depleted.

Do you think that is by accident?

There are huge deficits.

Do you think that is an accident?

Do you have any idea what is going on in the background?

If there are visible protests coming, and I hope they will continue and grow, massively. They will be seen by the world, unlike in the past.

Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall see God.

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By Lee Driver, January 10, 2007 at 9:32 am Link to this comment
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“The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last number of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” A. Hitler

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By Chris Baron, January 10, 2007 at 8:54 am Link to this comment
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Sadly I think possibly the main reason there is so little demonstration against this war (especially on college campuses) because a huge portion of Americans are simply not a part of it. They’re not fighting it, they’re not in fear of being drafted, they aren’t getting wounded, they’re not being killed. This was not the case with the Vietnam War and hence there was much more public activism.

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By Kellina, January 10, 2007 at 8:35 am Link to this comment
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Pelosi, Kennedy, and even Kovic are all talking about how we shouldn’t send more troops. Notice how Bush has successfully changed the discussion to “whether or not to sent more troops” when we should be discussing “whether or not to END the war.”

Of course we shouldn’t send more troops. We also should bring home the troops who are there. We’re going to deal with the repercusions for a long, long time.

Do any of you know the facts about so-called “depleted” uranium? I heard that DU is in the bullets. It’s not only toxic but radioactive, and is associated with cancers in the person exposed, plus fetal death or abnormalities in their offspring. So any soldier who doesn’t die or get maimed in this war (physically or psychologically) will have the “reward” of carrying a ticking time-bomb around in their bodies that can affect their DNA and shorten what’s left of their soon-to-be-gruesome lives. PLus, all the DU in Iraq has made it uninhabitable for any Iraqis who might survive the war and perchance want to live there?

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By winterfire6, January 10, 2007 at 6:50 am Link to this comment
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Protests of historic numbers have been happening since before the bombs fell on Iraq. However, since the invasion, American protest has been all but invisable, in our own media and abroad.

I don’t believe that will be the case this year, if we protest massively and enduringly. Public protest is extremely important, now, to the country.

Brother Kovic is spot-on.

Finally, the American people have awakened from their collective, media-induced coma and have roundly condemned this war and repudiated the administration.

Mr. Bush still does not listen, let alone hear the people.

Maybe he needs to see us and hear us.

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By Nancy Nahvi, January 10, 2007 at 6:27 am Link to this comment
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In response to comment #46535:
Ed, I want to say as one of the “weeping mothers” that I am not only honored to “bear” with you but I would gladly carry you on my shoulders if I could! I am so relieved to hear that anyone besides my self feels “pissed off to my bones.”  Thank you for caring enough to be pissed off!  I wish everyone was pissed, I don’t understand or accept the apathy of the most Americans, so please keep it up and know at least one mother of a fallen soldier—my son Russell Nahvi—greatly appreciates anything, anything to battle this insane war and the great “decider”!!  I think tonight during Bush’s speech he will say he has recently met with families of fallen soldiers—let me just say these families were hand picked in Georgia to “meet” with him last night, members of the pro-military group TAPS (Tradedy Assistance Program).  This pathetic group of deluded families do not speak for me, you, Ed, on the other hand speak eloquently of the message I would give Bush and his cohorts.

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By mgb, January 10, 2007 at 12:28 am Link to this comment
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support your independent broadcasting stations eschew cnn, abc, msnbc, fox etc

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By TAO Walker, January 9, 2007 at 9:39 pm Link to this comment
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The “boycott” idea (Kathlyn #46513) has some theoretical promise because it could get at the junta’s sponsors, provided a people not known for their attention-span is able to keep it up for as long as it takes.  It would have the added advantage of preparing Americans for the severely straitened economic circumstances that are dead-certain to be headed “homeland”-ward anyway. 

Those who see the 9/11 myth as the global gangsters’ Achilles Heel are also onto something.  You know how tough a nut that’ll be to crack, though, when even Howard Zinn propagates the “official” version in his treatment of the twentieth century, and no few otherwise trenchant observers shy-away from challenging it…....perhaps for fear of being labelled as “conspiracy theorist,”  a canard equivalent to the “anti-semite” slur which so effectively insulates the Zionists from being called publicly to-account for their criminal behavior.

It is not a hopeful sign that so many continue to vent their anger and frustration on the feckless personage of George W. Bush.  He is a decoy…..a diversion…..a distraction.  He is no more the actual instigator of these depradations than George A. Custer was the formulator of those official policies that led to his own demise and disgrace (and, later, Hollywoodenheaded glorification).  Both Georges likely qualify as half-witting accomplices-to and wholly-willing true-believers-in the ongoing CONs piracy they front for and advance.  Neither was nor ever will be allowed anywhere near the actual ‘controls’ where all the decisions are made and packaged, before being handed to such as “the decider” to sell to a frightened and gullible (to the point of half-wanting and needing to be fooled…..again) public.

Ron Kovic’s pessimistic prediction of a much wider “war” is no doubt more than a mere guess.  He is much better-informed, and much less easily fooled, than your average all-american entertainment junkie.  But he may be seriously underestimating both the will and the ability of the corporate national security state apparatus to smother in its crib, so to speak, any real challenge, no matter how massively mounted, to its “Project for a New American Century,” whose perpetrators are convinced this is their ONE LAST SHOT at world domination for their privateering enterprise.

Anyone who’s paid attention the last few days, to the party-line sales-pitch for the “surge” in Iraq, will’ve heard repeated over and over again , with only the slightest variations in delivery and phrasing, essentially that exact same claim.  It is couched in terms meant perhaps to mask its actual intent, but behind the glistening faces of its sales reps there lurks now a genuine fear of failure and collapse…..not from any popular opposition to their project, but from its own internal contradictions. 

So Americans should by-all-means down-size and simplify their profligate life-style.  They should take to the streets in great numbers to protest their not entirely involuntary servitude to an oligarchy determined to remain deaf to their petitions.  They’d best do so, however, knowing it will serve rather to accelerate the processes driving the-world-as-they-know-it to destruction, than to retard them.

One way or another the house of cards is coming down.  Those actively trying to topple it stand a better chance of coming out of the wreckage alive than do those trying to keep it propped-up, or even, ironically, those only cringing in fear of the “personal” consequences of the coming crash. 

HokaHey!

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By Michael Murry, January 9, 2007 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment
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My fellow Vietnam Veteran Ron Kovic speaks the truth here. He has paid a heavy price for what it took to learn it. Now, the rest of us must listen to him, learn from his example, and act to place power behind his selfless work. Now again push comes to shove for Americans of every political persuasion and every walk of life. Do we live in the times that try mens’ souls or the times that buy them? Do we even have souls any more worth putting to the test? Ron Kovic—the finest of my generation—has anwered that question. Now, so must we.

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By Eleanore Kjellberg, January 9, 2007 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment
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“Americans this week have a patriotic and generation-defining duty to speak out against Bush’s proposal to escalate the war in Iraq with more U.S. troops”

And after Bush’s speech tomorrow, or rather is sales pitch about why we should escalate the
war—-the Democrats should come out “shooting,” with a rebuttal by Murtha or Kennedy saying why Bush’s new strategy will be a failure—-the good old gang at the White House, will make every attempt, to make those who don’t support the escalation seem weak and unpatriotic.

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By Ed, January 9, 2007 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment
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Watching with despair,anger and quite a bit of anxiety,PBS’s program “Return of the taliban”,I continue to wonder,does the"Idiot In Cheif"has the foggiest clue of what is going on in our universe,maybe it’s too vast for him to comprehend,and in his blind,militant and what some may call oedipal pursuit of his fantasy to outdo his father,he has forced thosands of fine young men into their deaths,difigurement and life long disabilities as well as broken homes,weaping mothers,fathers,widows,children and loved ones,not to mention the thousands upon thousands of slaughtered innocent Iraquis a ruined country and a region with the word “REVENGE” spilling over every man,woman and child.
All the while carrying shady deals with crooks like Musharraf,Mubarak and the rest of the middleast thugs.
The Idiot in Cowboy boots and his mentors and the rest of the gang seem to have a fasination with
BLOOD,DOMINANCE,and DEATH.
AS Generous and giving as we Americans are ,we should grant them thei wish,buy them one way tickets,first class ofcourse to have them induldge their passions,to “TALIBAN HEAVEN”.
Please bear with me, I am pissed off to my bones.

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By Polly Ester, January 9, 2007 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment
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“To speak out now and raise your voice against this policy, that’s what being an American is all about. That’s what patriotism is really all about. What is unpatriotic is allowing this all to happen—continuing to allow this administration to move our country into this dangerous situation that can only have consequences that I don’t even want to think about in the end.”

Who could disagree with this—-it is imperative to speak out; especially if you know you’re headed for a train wreck.

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By yours truly, January 9, 2007 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment
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What sort of world?  It’s up to us.  Foolish?  Nonsense!  That we think we’re helpless to change things, now that’s what’s foolish; worse, it’s dumb.  After all, who else but us can change the world;  something which is a must now too, if we together with all other living beings are to survive.  And, what’s neat is that all it’ll take to get things moving our way is for Congress to cut off all funding for the Iraq war.  And given today’s means of communication, could anything be more doable?

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By Arun, January 9, 2007 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment
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Truthdig readers,

Send emails to all your friends and family to send emails or faxes to their representatives(Dem or Rep) to stop them support Bush for further surge of troops and demand to bring them back from Iraq.
Warn your representatives don’t act, you will chose an independent next time.
Readers, its time to wake up and do your duty for a better America, JUST America.

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By kath cantarella, January 9, 2007 at 6:03 pm Link to this comment
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it’s not the US’s fight. It doesn’t matter what George Bush did. He’s not the one dying over there.

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By Kathlyn, January 9, 2007 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment
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Ive said it before and I say it again only louder:  BOYCOTT EVERY BUSINESS YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH.  sPEND ONLY ON BARE NECESSITIES.  sTOP OVER-EATING AND DRINKING.  CLOSE OUT YOUR CREDIT CARD.  TAKE A BUS TO WORK OR CARPOOL.  TURN DOWN THE THERMOSTAT.  HAndWASH AND AIRDRY THE DISHES. CUT OUT SMOKING.  BRING A BROWNBAG LUNCH TO WORK OR SCHOOL OR MEETINGS.

How does Bush know if your back is turned or not if you are watching TV?  He doesn’t care anyway.  But believe you me when the spending stops he will be blamed and the tune will change.

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By Kellina, January 9, 2007 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment
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I was at the protest in NYC on Feb 15, 2003. Big waste of time as the police cordoned us off and wouldn’t let us anywhere near the UN. Things have gotten worse at protests since then…at least none of us got hurt. But maybe if there are enough protesters, things will be different. People need to bring cell-phone cameras, too, to video the police.

I agree with Jackie, as usual. If the truth about 9/11 were somehow allowed to penetrate the national consciousness, then we’d have a chance to stop Bush. Calling one’s representatives seems rather quaint (and useless), since no one seems to care about our votes, and the people we vote into office act like timid little rabbits.

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By jchib@charter.net, January 9, 2007 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
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His mission impossible will never be accomplished.
The only thing he has accomplished is that he is the wooorst president ever !!!!

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By Quy Tran, January 9, 2007 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment
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We’ve already spoken out against Bush & Cos. since the first day he stolen throne from Vice-President Gore through their sordid tricks and not only Iraq’s invasion but all of his policies regarding our beautiful nation and the whole world.

This hemorrhagic and criminal administration has no reason to be existed and must be iliminated, the sooner the better.

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By Michael, January 9, 2007 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment
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A simple proposal:

Since Mr. Bush has, repeatedly, displayed such blatant contempt for public consensus—why not have every citizen who opposes him—we are legions—from this day on, daily display our own contempt for his anti-democratic behavior. 

I propose that whenever Bush speaks publicly, whether before crowds or on radio or TV, we all nonverbally communicate our outrage against his having “turned his back” on the American electorate by simply, literally, turning our backs to him as he rants.

ie Silently turn 180 degrees; show him your backside. Continue to do so until he finishes.

In this way, we can—nonviolently but vividly—publicly rebuff him, censure him, ostracize him by refusing to politely grant him our full attention as he openly taunts our constitutional checks and balances, our very democratic institutions.

Do it daily, until entire crowds are doing it.  Do not stop it, until he “stops.”

Let it snowball.  Let him see our disdain.

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By Will, January 9, 2007 at 2:03 pm Link to this comment
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The timing of this troop surge clearly shows Bush’s arrogance towards the opinion of Americans, the majority elected Democrat Congress by the American people, and the Iraqi people.  It validates the extremity of his ego displaying his uncomprehensible ignorance to further solidify our troops into this civil war thus increasing the dependency of the future of the Iraqi people on us and weakening their chance of independence, and democracy for themselves.  We know which direction the Democrat controlled congress wants to take us, ending this senseless war and have Iraq become dependent upon themselves.  This move is a clear flip of the bird (much like governor Bush to the cameras) to all americans who elected a Democrat controlled congress to lead us in a different direction.

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By Jackie T. Gabel, January 9, 2007 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment
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RE: Kovic: “I think President Bush plans to provoke an even wider war in the Middle East in the coming months. That’s my prediction. He is going to escalate the war by sending more troops to Iraq in a war that we cannot win—a war that is only going to cause more violence, make us even bigger targets of terrorist attacks.”

>>>>>>> Provocations

They have done everything possible to grow and reinforce the Myth of Islamofascism and they are fully prepared to provoke a full scale war with Iran. With support for this regime and its War of Terror edging close to 10%, they must be removed before they can stage any such provokations. All issues (WMD, torture, illegal domestic spying) have failed to touch them. Only 911 Trith can pierce the heart of this vampire regime.

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