No shit, “dukie,” and it’s all rolling downhill.

Where are the Weathermen when we need them? Extraordinary resistance is now needed within the US. The shit is on.

In response to my question “exactly how many billions in oil have we stolen, and just how did we do it?” Sam replies:
“How much oil have we stolen?
Try a round number of 7 trillion dollars”

You note that he doesn’t say how it was done, nor does he cite any source of his ridiculous figure.  I hesitate to think where he may have pulled that number from.

In case you haven’t been near a TV or a newspaper for the past three years, let me inform you that there is only a trickle of oil leaving Iraq.  The insurgents regularly blow up the pipelines, set fire to the oil rigs, and assault the oilfields, killing oil workers by the score.

By what fantasy method do you claim that “we”, and I assume you mean “Daddy Warbucks” Cheney and his buddies, are able to get vast amounts of oil out a country controlled in the main by Sunnis, Al Queda, Jihadists of various stripes, and others intent on seeing that NO oil is allowed to leave the country.

I understand your need to have a scapegoat for the failure of Bush and Company’s ill-advised and ill-executed Iraq policy, but for God’s sake do look around for something plausible, something other than your idee fixe of “we’re stealing billions in oil.”

“(Y)ours truly” (#45581) is obviously assuming that any “peaceful means” are even still available.  Is s/he ready to bet his/her great-grandchildren’s lives on that belief?  Because your tormentors are betting the farm they can sucker everyone into a ‘regime’ of “perpetual war for perpetual peace,” and right now the odds (maybe ‘the gods,’ as well) seem to be favoring THEM.

Sure, a lot of the scam-ees are starting to get cold feet.  The neoCON gamers, though, have understood from the git-go that this time it’s for all “the big blue Marble,” and for them at least “failure” really isn’t an option.  Failure is death…..and worse, disgrace.

Anyone still clinging to the delusion that the stakes are less than that is at a definite disadvantage, however they might think to go about bringing “a quick and decisive end” even to just the criminal-assault-on-Iraq phase of the overall grand plan.  It’s already way too late for that anyhow. 

As for the Congress, a substantial majority of its current members were present and counted themselves proud marchers in the “hit”-Saddam-parade, when the boys and girls in-uniform were sent off to “the cake-walk” in The Cradle of Civilization.  The Senate voted 97-0 to “fund” the project’s armed component at least through the end of 2008…..putting an end to pipe-dreams of a post-cold-war “peace dividend” once and for all.

Actually, there might just be some “peaceful means” for putting the American empire out of its misery.  It sure as hell won’t be painless, though.  Does “yours truly,” or any real American, have the stomach for that?

HokaHey!

Contrariwise, there is reason to believe that there will be a quick and decisive end to the Iraq war.  How?  We’ll see to it that Congress does it for us, that’s how.  Otherwise we’ll do it ourselves by whatever peaceful means are necessary.

Talk about “greasing the skids,” eh?  (SamSnedegar, #45439)  What the privateers know full-well but few of their victim/accomplices are even beginning to suspect, is that this “project” has long since sped past the-point-of-no-return.  “Changing course” isn’t merely “unacceptable” now…...it is impossible.

All that really remains to be seen is how fast the bloody bandwagon will be going when it hits the wall.  Welcome to CrashtestDummyworld.

HokaHey!

How much oil have we stolen?

Try a round number of 7 trillion dollars, but that isn’t the important part, darlings; the real value of it comes from propping up a worthless dollar which even now is losing ground to the euro in use for TRADING OIL, not just Iraq’s oil, but ALL oil.

Sorry sweetcakes, but the US foreign policy is not about any other item. As Vince Lombardi said in effect, oil isn’t everything, it is the ONLY thing.

Try the Israeli attack on Lebanon that we engineered: yes, Lebanon is the terminus of the Syria-Lebanon pipeline which not only gets oil from Iraq to the Med, but gets oil from Saudi Arabia to the Med . . . a big buck item to have a straight shot for tankers straight through the Med to New Orleans and Houston, rather than going the long way around via the Arabian and Red Seas.

And please don’t think our invasion of Afghanistan had diddly to do with bin Laden who was very likely not even alive when nine eleven was planned or executed; no babycakes, we wanted control of the pipeline from the Caspian oil reserves out through Afghanistan and Pakistan, and we have it.

If you think the USA does wars for Israel, you are sadly mistaken; not the Bushitter gang of thugs, anyway. Whenever they do a real war and not a police action like Panama, they do it for oil; nothing else matters.

Let me give you a small lesson in economics: you don’t have to quarry a single rock out of a gravel pit to use it for all the collateral you’d ever need to make millions and maybe billions of dollars building shopping malls. It’s done every day you breathe, and likewise you don’t have to produce a single barrel of oil to use a hundred ten billion barrel reserve to prop up an all but worthless American dollar.

If you think first, you might not show your ignorance so quickly.

Finally, what OTHER possible reason could there be for invading Iraq? Are you still looking for weapons of mass destruction? The only thing Iraq ever had or ever WILL have that would cause the USA to invade her is OIL . . . that’s oil, folks.

Sam wrote:
“we went there for the oil; surely there is no one stupid enough to think that the USA would mount a trillion dollar war against an Iraq which had NO OIL? No one can be that stupid; there would not be one single American boot on the ground of an oil-less Iraq, not one.”

Sam, wake up and smell the gunpowder.

Please tell us just how many billions of dollars of Iraqi oil we have “stolen”, and just how we did it.  Hell, they haven’t even managed to ship out enough oil to buy a few bags of wheat for their starving population.

I doubt that you will rise to the challenge.  But it is an incontrovertible fact that we have poured many billions of bux into the coffers of Halliburton et al.

You also wrote about “wanting a military industrial complex”, so I see that you just don’t get it.  We don’t WANT a MIC, we HAVE one, and it is that group of thieves who are profitting from this ill-planned, ill-fought war.

I’d be real careful about calling anyone stupid if I were you.

“There is none so blind as he who will not see.”

Bu$h Inc. won’t leave Iraq for the same reason Gilligan never got off the island. They’re both money makers for someone.

Truth & Fact:

http://www.devvy.com/utt_20020410.html

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/secretoath.htm

http://www.infowars.com  http://www.prisonplanet.com

http://www.gcnlive.com  http://www.newswithviews.com

Read ‘Citizens Rule Book’ for Jurors:

Dear sweet Marie . . .

how on earth would YOU plan to steal oil from Iraq if you were not IN Iraq to do so?

It is really very simple: we stay the course because we have to control the oil, and we have to control the oil to keep our shaky economy afloat for a while longer before it collapses in an Enron cloud of debt and subterfuge.

We used to have wealth with which to back our currency, but today we no longer have the corner on cars, planes, agriculture, chemicals, steel, copper, coal, oil, pharmaceuticals, appliances, cotton products, iron ore, and safety pins. We peg the dollar to oil and hope no one will notice that WE have no oil to sell, and therefore there is no reason to collect dollars any longer since the products one buys come from somewhere outside the USA anyhow.

But to the point: we went there for the oil; surely there is no one stupid enough to think that the USA would mount a trillion dollar war against an Iraq which had NO OIL? No one can be that stupid; there would not be one single American boot on the ground of an oil-less Iraq, not one.

And tell Scheer that if all we wanted was a military industrial complex, we could go to war with Iran or North Korea or Pakistan or Israel or some other proliferating idiots who want to use nukes for a threat, and who are likely to use them for retaliation against insult one day.

No one with a mind which is capable of cogency thinks we went to Iraq for anything BUT the oil, no matter how many LIES he tells about our motives, but you can’t steal oil from thousands of miles away, and so IF we are to put off our bankruptcy for a few more years, then we have to steal oil from someone somewhere on earth, and where better than Iraq? or the Emirates? or Kuwait? or Saudi Arabia? We may hit them all as time and waste destroy the earth’s oil reserves. And there is no safety for Chavez in Venezuela either . . .

We covet, we kill, we lie, and we steal. How about reporting on it sometime?

Bush just met in Crawford, TX to discuss the “new direction” for the Iraq war.  Who did he meet with? VP Cheney, Secty. Rice, Secty. Gates, Gen. Pace.

Sure looks like same old, same old, to me.

And why did he postpone announcement of strategy changes until after Jan 6th?  So he could blame any failures on the Democrats, would be my guess.

George W. Bush’s “milestone” refrain may well be right-on-the-money.  The thing is to determine now just how far down this lost highway America has driven its imperial wetdream-machine, what the road is actually paved with, and exactly where in HELL it’s taking you all.

From here high-atop Old Man mountain, us Indi’ns can see you guys are headed at break-neck speed for one big dead-end.  Saddam Hussein is evidently well out of it now, but looks to be having the last laugh on the Bush crime family’s godfather, its profligate son, and its unholy sprite (Oh, you’ll figure that one out, eventually.).

Meanwhile, to find out where you really are in time, you might look rather to the Mayan than to the intentionally falsified “christian” calendar.  There you can learn the actual Number of your Days, you who have for so long been so slap-happily numbering all your days, and so guaranteeing that your days are numbered.

As to where you’ve been all along, welcome to OUR world.  Welcome to Turtle Island.

HokaHey!