I think giving vote to hillary is bringing clinton back to white house. do any one want him back? me not

I think oboma is coming to white house becouse he has good future to america and the rest of the world.
God help oboma

“Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton sounds much better than Bush/Cheney. At least we would eliminate soldiers dying for nothing.”

Are you sure about that? Neither one of them seems to have much backbone when it comes to taking a strong stand against this war.

Is anyone else as dismayed as I am that our clear mandate against the war on November 7 is being turned (by beltway politicians) into some sort of demand for more troops to be sent into this mess?

Most Republicans and too many Democrats (Clinton especially included) seem to have truly become divorced from reality.

Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton sounds much better than Bush/Cheney. At least we would eliminate soldiers dying for nothing.

thank you, chris rahe. mrs. clinton has been the same pandering prevaricator since her jennifer flowers damage control interviews of 15yrs ago. to handicap her as a woman is an insult to women and oddsmakers. by venality alone is she eminently qualified to be president.

Puh-lease!!!

The left won’t support Hillary because they’re afraid she’ll lose. The country won’t elect her because she’s a woman.

Give me a break. The people won’t support Hillary because she’s a self-serving opportunist who has never encountered a special interest check she won’t sell us out for.

She is a servent of the rich, not We The People. The only people gullible enough to believe that someone like that is really some sort of “populist” are Bush supporters and die-hard Republicans who certainly aren’t going to vote for Hillary.

Well I guess I have to add the pseudo-lefty pundits in the media to that list of the gullible (who probably aren’t really gullible, just as self-serving as Ms. Clinton).

I’d vote for Hillary in a hot minute, but I too fear she will lose to another 4 dreadful Republican years. She’ll lose because she’s a woman. No one wants to say it out loud, but I’m afraid this country is not ready for a woman pres.

Obama’s “We must turn the page of history” statement belongs with JFK’s “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” BS, and typifies what’s wrong with the representative form of democracy - Words are mistaken for deeds.  What good our elected representatives when, instead of them, each and every one of us should be in on the important decisions (via the Internet) on such matters as TROOPS OUT NOW, or whether George Bush should be impeached, or about universal health care, etc etc. That way we won’t need elected representatives, except perhaps as watch-dogs for making sure we get what we vote for. Otherwise our attention will continue to be diverted to such trivia as the personal life of the various candidates for public office.  Why do we need this indirect form of democracy anyway?  It was intended for the horse and buggy era, when no way could the average citizen take time off and travel to some far off place to decide upon the issues of the day.  But now, compliments of the Internet, everyone actually can participate in the legislative process without anyone having to travel any farther than to one’s computer. Ain’t science wonderful?

It wouldn’t be good for Hillary to run because she’s such an exceptional senator and very much needed in the Senate. I think the same can be said about Obama. Neither one of them should run and neither one of them likely would win the presidency if they did. Senators don’t govern. Senators legislate. It’s a big difference and why...let’s see, who was the last senator to win the presidency? JFK more than forty years ago? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think so. I don’t know who should run or what democrat likely would win but I’m pretty confident that he/she will not be a sitting senator.

All excellent comments.  Ms. Clinton is a conundrum.  Most importantly, she lacks the necessary charisma.

In the end, I agree with Serginho--being so pro- Bush as she has been, even accepting fundraisers from Murdoch, is the ultimate reason to not vote for her.

And yes, she does carry the Clinton legacy baggage.  Her candidacy will bring out the ultra-rightists in their extreme attack mode.

I think the Democratic race is shaping up very nicely.  Extending the boundaries of debate is what is so desperately needed.

Let’s face it Hillary just doesn’t play in states other than New York(not even upstate NY) and California - she is not trusted and would not win. Obama’s big smile doesn’t pass for the knowledge and experience necessary to do the job. This isn’t American Idol for Gods sake, although to the media everything is. The presidency is not something you grow into. Look at what’s happening right now for proof of that.
I hope whoever even thinks they want the job is taking notes on the mess Bu$h and Co. will leave behind. It’ll take more than catchy slogans and a few buzz words to turn this thing around. I’d rather see John Edwards elected. I think he would at least tell it somewhat like it is and get us going in the right direction. I say somewhat because I don’t think we could handle the whole truth at this point.

A little follow-up to my previous comment for further reference. For individuals who no longer are in DENIAL.

Did you know; there was no copy of ‘The Patriot Act 2001’ for our Congress to read before they voted upon it. This act was a direct attack upon our Constitution and Bill of Rights and our lives in this Republic. <www.furnitureforthepeople.com>

I suggest all of us read and compare the ‘The Decrees of 1933’ of Germany and then compare it to the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act 2006 and all the executive orders signed by Bush 1 &2;and Clinton.

Did you know that the U.S, Canada, and Mexico are one state?

I agree with Sam, Hilary Clinton does have baggage, but, more importantly, she would be the lightning rod the far right is praying for to deliver them in 2008.

Note to the DNC: We need candidates who will unite the Democrats, not the opposition.

To: Truthdig.org
E.J. Dionne

Quit side tracking the real issues! Start reporting on the real Puppet Masters- Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral- Commission, and Board Memebers of the Federal Reserve Banks.

<www.wikipedia.org> <www.educate-yourself.org>

These individuals control our Congress, Executive Branches and the whole election process. If our media was truly independent and honored our Constitution they would DIG into the truth and stop feeding us the LIES.

<www.cia.gov> ‘Operation Mockingbird’

No one becomes President of The United States of America (A Republic) unless these individuals say OK. A search of past Presidents would find 95% are members of the CFR, since 1913.

If you want to know about what is happening research-research quit watching that Idiot Box, and reading the newspapers, magazines of the 6 major media corporations that own our information sources. How about writing articles on the collapse of the dollar, North American Uion, control of the Internet and how these individuals as named above have destroyed all our liberties, rights- freedom of speech, religion, etc.

<www.givemeliberty.org> <www.originalintent.org>
<www.thenewamerican.com> <www.prisonplanet.com>
<www.infowars.com>

Or is this another binky for the masses to feel good? Citizens you need to read ‘Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars’ by Milton William Cooper. Go to
<www.lawfulpath.com> or better yet try to find the book. ??Amazon??

How about this: Does everyone like paying out 60% of their income from their labor to these international banks for this country’s debt? (IRS)

The 16TH Amendment (Income Tax) of this Constitution was never ratified by 3/4 of these united states. According to the U.S. Constitution Article 1 Sec: 8 only congress has the right to coin money. Our Consitution does not allow for any tax on our labor or property. We have been lied to citizens.

I would also suggest you research the 17TH Amendment (Elected Senators)also not ratified by the states by a 3/4th majority.

The Press- Media have a responsibility to not only the citizens of the U.S. but themselves. Question Media- how are your profits lately?

Her unwavering support of the Duh-cider’s disastrous Iraq policy is all the reason I need not to vote for her.

It is maddening to hear the things Hillary Rodham Clinton gets accused of, like actually representing her constituency, rollin’ up her sleeves and jumping into things she believes in, without regard for her personal reputation. In fact, she does not have any regard for what anyone thinks of her personally, when persuing something she belives in, and will not let public critisizm, and complaint stop pursuit of high and lofty ideals.

Obama, is already overwith, he firmly shot himself in the foot, after frimly sticking it in his mouth. He said when asked if he was experinced enough to be president, “Is anyone ever really ready to be president?” How naive can a man be, to run for president on such a high and lofty ideal as that?

After, 6 years, of making it up as we go, while George W. Bush, has to rediscover what Alexander Pope wrote in 1734, we do not need another mere mindless, and meaningless speculator.

Copyright 2006, Mark Robert Gates

Please read my blogs:

http://lokieponaphoenix.blogspot.com/
http://wellnessempowered.blogspot.com/

Hillary Clinton is the presumptive loser in 2008, thanks to excessive American punditry. 

As much as the right wingers like to talk about how the left “hates” George Bush, it took a few years of constant demonstration of his arrogance, his ignorance, his divisiveness and his self-adoration, as president, to earn the level of contempt that Hillary had amassed by about the third week of her husband’s first term.

You make a good argument about self-appointed punditry narrowing the choices. Like it or not, the Iraq war defines many voters choice. Hillary’s stance makes it hard to distinguish from her Republican friends. Obama is walking the middle line. Kucinich said he’s running and he’s promoting a Dept. of Peace, de-emphasizing this Administration’s love of the DoD and what it does for their friends. 3 choices - so far. You can downplay the war’s impact on voters all you want, but come election day, it is the #1 issue effecting the decision of many voters.

Hillary is a non option I understand that the money in this country loves her because she knows how to play there games and they trust her but I and many other lefties WILL vote Green party instead of her.  Put in Gore or possibly Obama and the split between the Greens and Dems would go away.  Of course Kucinich is ALWAYS an option but do I dare to dream, I hope he does not become known as the greatest guy that was never president because he would make an amazing one.

Hillary has too much baggage.  The neocons despise her.  I’m afraid she’ll ensure another Republican president.

Obama may not have experience, but he’s intelligent.......a refreshing change.  Bush 43’s experiences were of one failure after another.  Evidently Texans feel he ran their state well, and whether he did or not, it didn’t translate into ability to run the country successfully.

Why does this otherwise terrific website like the self-serving and disingenuous Hillary Clinton so much?

Anyone who thinks that we choose presidents through a system involving just primaries, caucuses and a general election is terribly naive.  The true “shadow primary” is American punditry.

What election was it that made Hillary Clinton the presumptive “leader” in a primary season which has not yet started and for which not one vote has been cast?  Why is Barrack Obama, someone with exactly two years of experience, a (presumed) candidate who attracts such universally accepted report?  Dionne says “Obama will look just as formidable a year from now as he does today.” Oh yeah?  To who, besides yourself and other self-appointed “pre-election marshalls”?

This is the part of the election cycle that is managed by pundits.  Sure, there are polls here and there, but we must rememebr that we live in a democracy where barely half of the voters participte at all.  Try canvassing in a state like New Hampshire during the lead up to their primary.  Talk with people who are actually the target of the most aggressive, concentrated campaigning in presidential politics, and you’ll be amazed at how distanced they are, as a group, from politics.  You’ll get aswers like “I’ll decide who I’m voting for on election day,” “My husband will tell me who to vote for” and the ever-popular “I don’t vote.” So why are we to believe any polls that are conducted now, particularly when they are crafted in the mold of the pundits’ collective political “wisdom?” Why do we ask whether someone might vote for Clinton rather than Obama, and not Biden, Bayh, Richardson, etc. etc...?  Because “pundits” have made the decision who the “frontrunners” are - on our behalf.

We deserve candidates like Bush because we put up with this crap.

Short memory on history, E.J.  How is this different from Lyndon Johnson being upstaged by that low on experience charismatic Senator from Massachusetts in 1958/59?

Oh, yes. Like we really need You-Know-Her to “work with” neocons like reactionary Republicans and Holy Joe Lieberman (pardon the redundancy) to vote for burning-flag amendments and vapid PR tantrums against virtual video-game “violence” while threatening Iran and supporting the most unneccesary and self-deafeating military blunder in U.S. history.

Oh, yes. Do rave on about why “we” Americans—or anyone else for that matter—need someone who as Bob Dylan might say “needs a weathervane to tell which way the wind blows.” So, now what? Time for the see-me-not-run-while-running “listening tour”? Give this old Vietnam Veteran a break, will you? Dennis Kucinich or Al Gore would each make a better president than either You-Know-Her or Obama-Wan-Kenyobe, who haven’t got a necessary or worthwile idea between them.