It seems that everyone agrees on at least one thing: the need for changes to our corrupt political system.  We need to do whatever it takes to legally and peacefully return to the ideals of our Founding Fathers.  And, as Mr. Gabel suggests, all of those politicians who are guilty of selling their offices, or any other crimes, should be vigorously prosecuted.

Only idiots would have gotten involved in Iraq.  Only idiots would have ignored the urgency of an energy independence policy.  Only idiots would have tried to force a consitiution onto Iraqis that disenfranchised a huge percentage of the population and expected it to work.  Only idiots believe that the Iraqis can live in peace anytime soon.  Only idiots think we should stay there, under any circumstances.  If there were ever a time for a People’s Party in America, the time is now.  The Republicans and the Democrats have abused their license to rule.

RE: Comment #40000 by Ron Huegel on 11/28 at 2:55 pm “We can start by putting aside political differences and work together as citizens of this country…”

>>>>  Indeed, and responsible citizens we must become.

Demand new fully transparent 911 hearings, with total subpoena power — no exemptions. Investigate, indict, prosecute and execute. Those found guilty, should be show the noose and when they start flipping, arrest everyone implicated and continue the process. Show no quarter. At the first sign of weakness, they will turn with daggers drawn.

Again, this is not “payback” for the petty “blue-dress” impeachment. This is justice for murder and treason and many 911 victims’ survivors are 100% behind it. Constitutional crisis? You bet. Bring it on! This nation needs shock therapy if it is to survive.

Response to Comment #39920 by Jackie T. Gabel:  You make a valid point, Mr. Gabel.  The United States did have the opportunity to form an alliance, or at least a friendship with Viet Nam at the end of WWII.  Ho Chi Minh is known to have admired the Constitution of the United States.  Unfortunately, the US government sided with France (they’re always there when they need us), since they had been an ally in the war.

The rest of your statement, in my opinion, is liberal rhetoric, peppered with leftist cliches.  The war in Viet Nam has to be put into the context of the times, rather than what would have or what could have happened in 1945.  We were fighting a war with Russia and China by proxy.  Those two leaders of the communist world were spending a great deal of effort and money in an effort to foment revolutions in Third World countries.  Capitalism aside, this country must look out for its own interests in matters of commerce, especially where critical materials are concerned.  A world controlled by Russia and China under the communist banner would have isolated the United States and put us at the mercy of those totalitarian states.

To Eleanore Kjellberg: Unfortunately I don’t have a simple answer to the complex problem of turning around our corrupt government.  We can start by putting aside political differences and work together as citizens of this country to put right what has become a cash cow for the well-to-do.  Working together we can demand changes that would benefit the people rather than the politicians. One suggestion would be to impose term limits on Congress, possibly two four-year terms or one six-year term.

•    Comment #39608 by Ron Huegel  on  11/24  at  2:03 pm “... all deaths, Americans, allies and enemy forces alike, can be directly linked to the anti-American forces within this country.”

>>>>>>>>>blaony

If Truman had worked with the nationalist patriot HO (our ally against Japan) instead of the colonial French in aiding them to return, after they’d abandoned their colony, the US would have had an economic partner in SE Asia, not an enemy. Through the thuggery of the Dulles brothers the myth of Monolithic Communism was set and US foreign policy forced to confront a phantom threat used to enrich the industrial military complex faction of the oligarchy; and there is your history, Mr. Heugel.

Discussions can come and go; the real shame here is the George Bush has not the slightest idea what to do about this mess.  You can blame no one but King George the Inept.  This is his crap.  In running for office the first time, he had no solid foreign policy—period.  There was but one thought in that head of his (alas, the Emperor has no brain), getting back at Iraq for what they had done to “Daddy”  It was a feud, Texas style and he was going to win.  Now, “Daddy” and that band of thieves are being recalled to “hep out”.  Oh, by the way, has anyone told The President the outcome of the Vietnam War?  Oh, yea, I forgot, he sat that one out.  Thanks Daddy!

“But why quibble?  It’s time for all Americans, regardless of their political association, to take back a government that’s strayed from the “of the people, by the people, for the people” concept.  It’s also time to restore our Constitution to what the Founding Fathers meant it to be, without the interference of activist judges.  Until we do that, I’m afraid that all we’ll end up accomplishing is to have meaningless debates on biased web sites.”

Ron
Sounds very inspiring—but please tell us all, just how this will be accomplished. You just admitted that both parties are equally corrupt.
Do you think these politicians want to relinquish their power?

Bush will NEED a Vietnam Tutor and fast.  Saigon fly outs singing now.  The voices are becoming LOUDER and LOUDER!

Who will prove right? Tick…....Tick…..Tick….Tick..Tick

Concerned Mother

PS :  Democrats better have running shoes ON!

It seems that everyone on this site is bent only on bashing the current administration.  I have yet to see what concerns me the most, i.e. that the politicians of both parties have long been ignoring the wnats or needs of those who put them in office.  Do you really think that the democrats are much better than the Republicans?  Politicians in both parties do what they are told to do by those who are the real power behind each party.

Those responding to this site already have opinions of the conservatives, but they should also remember the Democrats, such as Jimmy Carter, who allowed Iran to begin its climb to become a major supporter of terrorism.  There are John Kerry and John Murtha, both of whom are phony “war heroes:” Kerry received the Silver Star for running down and killing a wounded Viet Cong, and he received several Purple Hearts that are questionable; Jack Murtha, who admitted to fellow Democrat Don Bailey that his Purple Hearts are phony, and puts forth his Bronze Star as proof of his heroism, when the Bronze Star was given to almost every officer in Viet Nam as an “End of Tour Award.”  Then tere is the party patriarch,the inimitable Ted Kennedy, who would still be in jail for murder were it not for his money and his family’s name.

But why quibble?  It’s time for all Americans, regardless of their political association, to take back a government that’s strayed from the “of the people, by the people, for the people” concept.  It’s also time to restore our Constitution to what the Founding Fathers meant it to be, without the interference of activist judges.  Until we do that, I’m afraid that all we’ll end up accomplishing is to have meaningless debates on biased web sites.

To George Hoffman…As a vet myself (1968-1969), I couldn’t agree more with your response. This administration has learned not one lesson from the Vietnam war. It astounds me, no actually it angers me, that we have such an incompetent fool in the White House. If bush truly feels that we have won in Iraq then why is that chickenhawk meeting with the so-called leader of Iraq in Jordan. Why does he not meet in Iraq and bask in his democratic victory. I am sure the Iraqis will greet our great commander with flowers and praise.

It only took Bush, 40 years to get to Vietnam; it was a circuitous trip—50,000 American troops died in Vietnam, and for what—so that the Vietnamese can now supply cheap labor for Microsoft.
The neocons cooked up a similar plan for Iraq, except they actually thought they would double their bounty, with an abundance of cheap labor and cheap oil.  Boy, those neocons thought they hit pay dirt; instead they got some “déjà vu.”

“Now, however, Vietnam is at peace with its neighbors and poses no security threat to the United States.”

Hmmm… Then perhaps if the U.S. continues to cause the destruction of Iraq for another 6 years—millions of Iraqis and tens of thousands of U.S. dead, trillions of dollars wasted—Iraq will eventually too become a thriving democracy?

I get it! The axis of idiots—Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld—are actually right! We will win!

As a Vietnam veteran, I was greatly amazed by the absurd statements President Bush made when he paid a state visit to Vietnam. While I was in Vietnam (31 May 1967 to 31 May 1968) and even before the Tet Offensive of 1968, I saw our war there was a tragedy of immense proportion for both the American soldiers and the Vietnemese civilians. It was a profound moment for me; I went from being a naive and idealistic young man to a cynical and bitter older one, now that I had seen how misguided our political leaders were in the promotion and prosecution of an unjust and unnecessary war.
It was not a proxy war between the United States and the Soviets and Chinese in the larger struggle of the Cold War. But rather it was a civil war to unite the country under one regime. And of course, the corrupt and puppet government of the so-called Republic of South Vietnam had no legitimacy compared to the Communist nationalist government of North Vietnam. So the civil war required a political settlement, not a military one. And the resolve of the North Vietnamese Army soldiers and the Vietcong guerillas was rock solid. Despite their overwhelming losses in all the battles against the American soldiers, they still fought on and on. We knew they would never give up their struggle to unite the country, no matter how many in their ranks would have to die.
President Bush is as deluded in his Iraq War as President Johnson was regarding the reality of the situation in the Vietnam War. And despite the Cambodian genocide, which the Communist government intervened in to stop, there were no dominoes of other countries falling to a Communist juggernaut across Southeast Asia. And now we have another fraudulent domino analogy in the Iraq War, where President Bush thinks setting uo Iraq as a democratic model will cause other countries in the region and in the Middle East to adopt the same form of government. And of course President Bush’s invocation of the domino effect is just as false and absurd as when President Johnson used it. If anything, the imploding civil war in Iraq along the Sunni/Shiite/Kurdish fault line will spread to other countries in the region rather than a belief in Western-style democracy.
And as a Vietnam veteran, who saw upon my return to the country how the Vietnam War was destroying our country and its democratic institutions, I am more concerned about saving democracy in this country rather than going on a fool’s errand to build a democracy in a Muslim country, which has no tradition of democratic principles among its citizens.
American have a deformed perspective in this country from which they view the larger world outside their borders. They think that democracy is the greatest gift in the world to other people. Unfortunately, democracy took many centuries to develop in the Western world. And it comes as a shock to Americans when foreigners simply reject how Americans view the world and their great gift of democracy. So I say let the Iraqis like the Vietnamese determine what kind of government they want for their citizens and pull out our troops from the country. It’s their country. And if they want to spend the next decade fighting a civil war among their various factions, let them. But like the Vietnam War, the Iraq War is another great foreign policy debacle. President Bush has no grasp of the historical lessons of the Vietnam War as he has no grasp of the political reality of the evolving, full-scale civil war in Iraq. He is delusional.

It seems that Robert Scheer is simply vomiting the on-going leftist propaganda.  First, the U.S. did not lose the war in Viet Nam.  In fact, we never lost a major battle during that war.  We withdrew our troops, and then the demo-rats in Congress pulled the rug out from under our allies in the South by refusing to fund the aid that they so desparately needed. 

To illustrate to what depths the liberals will go to back up their propaganda, you have only to look at the Tet Offensive in 1968.  During that time U.S. forces effectively eliminated the Viet Cong.  We also caused such losses that North Viet Nam was ready to sue for peace.  This is fact not fiction, as you can find this admission in literature from the North, including General Giap’s book.  Giap has stated that the only thing that stopped the North from giving up were the liberals, leftists and communists demonstrating in the streets of America.  Therefore, all deaths, Americans, allies and enemy forces alike, can be directly linked to the anti-American forces within this country.  Not only are the war casualties the fault of the leftists, but also the hundreds of thousands of deaths of South Vietnamese citizens who were murdered by the communist forces after the government in the South collapsed.

This is exactly what will happen in Iraq should we pull out before the situation in that country is stabilized.  And what will this country reap from that inane action?  Only the reverberations of the liberal left shouting, “We told you so!”

Although I fought in Viet Nam during the war, I am certainly happy that the country is now at peace.  In fact, I’ve returned seven times to that beautiful country in the past seven years.  The only thing that sometimes darkens my visits is when I meet someone who has survived the ravages of the “re-education” camps.

Robert Scheer should inject a little more obectivity into his investigations before spouting this liberal pablum!

To which American “ideology of freedom” and to which Vietnamese ideology of “hate” is he referring?  This sounds like the simplistic and blind jingoism that helped sustain the US war against Vietnam.
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I think the reader interpreted wrong.  Sheers interprets as (clearly stated on the article and the direction of the article)

Vietnamese “ideology of freedom” vs. American ideology of “hate” (Americans call the enemy gooks as they call the present enemy Hadji.)  The American Ideology of Hate is the reason to why the war was prolonged than it should, it is the ideology of freedom among Vietnamese to how the US was defeated.  I see parallels as like the author to the war in Vietnam but the ace card here is will Bush like Nixon expand the war.  Nixon bombed Laos and Cambodia, two countries not involved at all in the war in Vietnam, both countries were weak and the result are devastating.  US backed Pol Pot resulted in a massacre known as the killing fields, all because they want to overthrow the impartial monarchy in Cambodia. 
Iraq however is a different scenario, to expand the war means the US bombing Syria and Iran which we all know is more powerful than both Laos and Cambodia militarily in a physical and assymetrical sense.  Iran itself has a population twice the size of Iraq, a land size of California in which the US has no control of.  Unlike Vietnam, after the Tet offensive, the US defeated the NVA but the Baghdad and Al anbar offensive have led to the other direction, a US military defeat and a stronger nationalist force.  The US strengthened militarily the South Vietnamese regime after the Tet offensive, but weakened it politically, while in Iraq the puppet government was weakened in both military as well as political. 
If the US as a country survived their defeat in Vietnam, all points otherwise in the defeat in Iraq and the whole middle east.  With much more at stake in the middle east (oil and control of the last taps of these energy source), a US defeat in the middle east would mean a US economic collapse.  The characters involve unlike in Vietnam are wider as well, the Muslims who have longed for a united country since the fall of the Ottoman, will unite beyond religious lines if US annex Syria (Sunni) and Iran (Shia).  The result will be more similar to the defeat of the Western crusader armies in the middle ages vs. the united islamic army under the caliphate and Osman. 
Will Bush do what Nixon did?  It is a wait and see game now, but the western civilization hangs on a thread if the war is continued and expanded.

I have admired Robert Scheer’s writing for decades, but several points in the discussion of Bush in Vietnam seem questionable.
  For instance: “Bush seems not to have noticed that we succeeded in Vietnam precisely because we did quit the military occupation of that nation, permitting an ideology of freedom to overcome one of hate.”
  To which American “ideology of freedom” and to which Vietnamese ideology of “hate” is he referring?  This sounds like the simplistic and blind jingoism that helped sustain the US war against Vietnam.
  The statement that “the final collapse of our puppet regime in Vietnam did not produce the domino effect of other nations surrendering to communism” implies that there was a global communist conspiracy at the time - again, the kind of fiction that was used by Washington to try to justify its aggression.
  Finally, Scheer writes that, “Now, however, Vietnam is at peace with its neighbors and poses no security threat to the United States.”  Does this mean that, at the time of the war, that Vietnam was trying to attack its neighbors, or that it somehow did pose a threat to the US?
  I don’t believe that Sheer meant to make these implications, but they do reinforce the Cold War propaganda that we are the “good guys” and that helped condition Americans into blindly supporting the aggression.

Thanks Robert Scheer. I still show them your booklet “How the United States Got Involved in Vietnam” when someone wants to know how this happened. Now I’ll be showing them this when they want to know how we got involved in Iraq.

Between the insane “conspiracy theorists” and the die-hard marxists (Karl, not Groucho—HELLO! That last bus left in 1970!) it’s hard to read the comments here without gettin violently ill.

Here we have the incompetent-in-chief, the elitist-in-chief, the arrogant asshole-in-chief standing in his host’s country and saying that it would have been better if we killed lots more of them! 

What better evidence to have to get that this dangerous putz needs to be impeached and ousted, and his ugly dog,“Cheney” too!

Iraq, you’ve got oil, right?  We don’t; therefore we have a right to grab yours, right?  Wrong!

I believe the U.S. should stop interfering in the politics of other countries.  Other countries should be able to make decisions as to what type of government they believe is right for them.

In other words, “bug off,” U.S.  We have enough problems of our own to solve, such as homelessness, violence, unfair elections, poverty, destroying the middle class, lack of health care for 46% of our people.  Who are we to tell others to conform to our way of life? 

Jean Tracy

“What in Hell gives the US the right to any other country’s natural resources? As it is this country uses 68% of the worlds resources with only 5% of its population.”

Uh, no. You need to check your figures. The US has 5% of the population, represents 25% of the consumption of natural resources, AND REPRESENTS 30% OF THE PRODUCTION OF GOODS.

Idiots abound.

Spinoza:
What are your sources? Why should I believe you if your argument amounts to “what crap?” What makes you so sure that the CIA is not heavily into the drug business? What do you know about JFK? Did you even read the book I was discussing? (Final Judgment)

And how is calling me anti-semitic any kind of argument at all? Sure, some of the wealthy people with controlling interests in banking may be Jewish. They are not in the majority; for your information, most are British. None of them speak for or care about Jews or Jewish interests per se anyway. They care about Israel because Israel is Britain’s baby, Britain’s plan to gain a foothold in the Middle East. Britain’s lobby in our country is called the Council on Foreign Relations. The Brits had their own central-bank take-over long ago, having been bankrupted by our revolutionary war. Having said all this, does this mean I hate British people? On the contrary, I married one. (Similarly, just because I hate Bush and his cronies doesn’t mean that I hate all Americans.) So your logic is lacking, my dear. And, by the way, I am Jewish.

And why pray tell is capitalism the root of all evil? This is another example of your simplistic thinking. Capitalism with genuine equal opportunity is a great idea; it gave us the chance to own property, to fully own our lives, to be free instead of being serfs. The problem comes when people try to turn capitalism into communism – by turning over too much control to the state. Because whoever controls the state can control the media, the elections, the business and banking regulations, etc., etc. Which is why our society is no longer free.

For example, why should we pay taxes on our labor? (We already pay property taxes, gas taxes, liquor taxes, taxes for special roads and bridges, taxes for licenses and permits, etc.) Why not abolish income taxes? Income taxes are used solely to pay the Federal Reserve for the interest on the national debt generated by gov’t overspending on things like: the war on poverty, drugs, terrorism, environment (and lots of ‘real’ wars). These wars generate waste and never cure the problem – the problems always get worse because the problems are not supposed to be solved. The goal is to waste gov’t money. Wasting money depletes our resources, inflates our currency (due to excess borrowing), and makes life harder for us in the middle class. This is the real class warfare, not the Marxist crap you’ve been reading about.

Why not institute consumption/luxury taxes instead? Then people are rewarded for saving, and the wealthiest have the highest taxes, because they spend the most. And why should we pay a private group (the Federal Reserve) for the privilege to print our money when that is the job of the US gov’t? It costs $230 to print one million dollars; the US gov’t (we the people) are charged for the million plus interest at a rate that the Fed controls. Is this fair? Do YOU like overpaying?

Here’s an argument: Bite me.

about comment #39209 by lewis shugar

Surely everyone must know that george junior’s drug of choice was cocaine (imagine the quality of the coke he had access to!).  It would be far more appropriate to mention that instead of scapegoating pot.  Let me just say that the only reason that marijuana is kept illegal is so that the drug dealers you get it from can introduce you to the hard stuff!(which keeps the government run drug trade alive and well) But back to lewis’ comments, its not the pot that causes bush to forget history, pot only affects immedeate short term memory, which reminds me, where’d i put my keys?  How can george jr. forget something he never learned in the first place?

So it’s “We’ll succeed,  unless we quit”, eh what?  As usual he’s got it upside down since the truth is that we quit, we succeed. 

That’s for stopping a war.  What about prevention?  We end the Iraq war, meaning troops out now, and there’ll be no war no more, never, not even one.  How?  We’ll be in control,  that’s how.  War will be obsolete.  And what of the peace dividend, the swords into plowshares thing?  That’ll be up to us. 
    .

This was not the first time the King said a dumb thing. Almost of his presidency when opens his mouth he always said stupidly. Without the help from Karen Hughes at back curtain the King acts exactly like a chimpanzee with clothes on.

No big surprise !

The greatest threat that we face, now, is this neocon cabal that has and is creating the Iraq nightmare. Their entire thrust over the past six years, in addition to their empirical ambitions, has been to subvert our constitionally guaranteed rights and to greatly increase the power of the presidency. Impeachment investigations are of top priority right now.

” Who Are Real Spiritual Contollers Of The New World Order”?
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Good stuff Bob. I had exactly the same reaction when I saw Bush’s comment hit the headlines.

I think it boils down to fighting the human spirit. It is one of the only things in the universe that actually can grow stronger the more somebody tries to annihilate or bend it, and I consider this to be one of its most profound properties. History offers hundreds of examples where persecution actually leads to strength.

It doesn’t always work out that way in the long run, of course. E.g., when your land is physically taken from you and re-settled by colonists, your population decimated by disease, hunger, and genocide, and then whomever is left is sent to rotten and unproductive land that you are given no rights to control. This was the US strategy against the native people of America, and others are trying to replicate it elsewhere (Israel-Palestine, Sudan-Darfur, Rwanda, etc.).

>>>Surely Yugoslavia is a far better comparison than Vietnam - like Iraq it is an artificially created nation constructed from warring factions where civil war will be inevitable. <<<

There was no reason why Yugoslavia had to disintegrate. The same is true for Iraq.  The problem in both cases was outside meddling.

>>>I don’t believe we’ve had a good, honest president since JFK. He sought to get out of Vietnam. He sought to stop meddling in Cuba’s business. He sought to end the Federal Reserve system. He sought an end to organized crime. He approved France’s exit from Algeria. He did a lot of things that the oligarch’s couldn’t stomach. And so they had him killed. (Read the book, Final Judgment.) <<<

What crap!

Kennedy did not seek to get us out of Vietnam, he sought to get us deeper involved.  He supported French Imperialism and all types of imperialism generally as he was a supporter of capitalism.

Of course he increased USA meddling in Cuban affairs, that is what imperialists do. (Like overthrowing the government and trying to assassinate Castro).

No he was not interested in ending the Federal Reserve nor the IRS, that is only part of idiot conspiracy theory anyhow. By the way, You are mixing up your crackpot conspiracy stories. You should try to straighten them out so they would make some sort of internal logic. Mao was not a drug cealer and the CIA was not primarily interested in the drug trade. Most were dedicated antiCommunist fascists and were very ideologically committed to saving capitalism.

(And why are ostensible leftists now supporting/reporting old neo-Nazi ideology about the Jewish Communist Banker World Control Conspiracy run by the Rothschilds and the Federal Reserve)? Guess that didn’t die in the 50’s with the bulk of the antisemitic ideologies.

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Comment #39219 by SamSnedegar on 11/22 at 5:01 am

What in Hell gives the US the right to any other country’s natural resources? As it is this country uses 68% of the worlds resources with only 5% of its population. Americans somehow think that Divine Right gives them unreasoned and excessive use of everything. We have promoted our life style around the world and now that it has taken hold we are pissed that the rest of the world wants to keep what is theirs for themselves. We have developed into a greedy and spoiled country that feels it can do anything it wants to acheive its wants. The US needs to grow up! The #1 problem in the world is over population. Therre just isn’t enough to go around and the US had best face this fact real soon and start prepating itself for the catastrophy that will soon take place.

GOD, how much crap will this nation’s “conservative” citizens put up with and vote for jack-ass republicans, before this country is totally ruined?!!
We have all vented our feelings repeatedly over the past few years (and especially,in the last two weeks)
Now is the time to take action in order to make sure, the past six years is NOT repeated!
Let us all keep sending E-mails to our Dem Senators and Congress men/women to:
1] Start HEARINGS / INVESTIGATIONS on the war

2] Push for PAPER RECEIPTS on all votes cast in ALL elections in ALL FIFTY STATES.

That should be a good starting point! 
Any thaughts ?

George Bush is the single most embarrassing thing this country has ever acknowledged for anything.

Bush has rid the U.S. of Rummy, now the rest of the administration should go.  The people should impeach Bush/Chaney.  Get rid of them before they do more damage.

Marge from Vancouver, Wa.

It seems that everyone missed the most idiotic part of Bush’s comments to his Vietnamese hosts.  He said that ‘the message we should learn from Vietnam is to stay the course’.  He believes the right wing mantra that America had actually ‘won’ the Vientnamese war in the TET offensive, but the left wing American press convinced the public otherwise and forced America out of Vietnam.  The neocons preach that the Vietnamese would have given up if we had just stayed the course a little longer.

SO:  What Bush was saying to his hosts was, ‘We should have stayed the course and kept killing you people, so you never would have been running your own government and none of you would be here today’.  His comments were greeted by deafening silince, with an olbligatory clap at the end.

In her new Dorothy Bush Koch’s 586-page book, the King’s sister had tried so hard to polish her father and her brother as heroes and no American family can compare.

According to Koch, she worked on the book for 2 years, conducting 135 interviews with friends, family and political opponents of her father, including Michael Dukakis.

She most admired about her father was his ability to manage the end of the Cold War “without a shot being fired”. (This would make Ronald Regean a little bit embarassed because he was an empty-handed President).

Next she applaused her brother, the present King George, as War President and War Hero and also thoughtful world leader.(but she forgot thanks to his brother, hundreds and hundres thousands Iraqis slaughtered, and almost 3,000 young U.S. soldiers killed for nothing !).

From the openings to the end are all compliments exclusively reserved for her dad and brother and of course for the whole family.

To spend 2 years for a book trying to re-polish big Daddy and big Brother is wasting time and money, even the money from contributory.

The whole monarch family members are very happy, enjoy together and self-satisfied as “MASTURBATED COLLECTIVELY”.

Congratulations !

The real lesson learned from Iraq and Vietnam is not to enter into wars. This “christian” nation ought to re-learn god’s commandment “thou shalt not kill”. George is no real christian. He’s a professed christian who said god told him to war in Iraq.

George needs to re-born and learn the commandments one more time.

One wise advice to King George that when you look at yourself in the mirror you’ll see only your face; but when you want to know whether good or worst you have done for this country you out to look in the history. History is a best judge and will never take side to anyone even those who’s tyrannical emperor.

After the recent mid-term election you’ve known the American people are fed up with you dynasty and you should know what to do for the remain of your time on the throne.

You must, first, dismiss all the flatterers around you; and, second, wake up and leave your ivory tower and try to do all your best before it’s too late.

Always remember what did you King Father once said to a reporter that “don’t break the law and don’t lie” even he lied a lots. Like father like son ! NO SURPRISE.

One and a half year will go by very fast.

Surely Yugoslavia is a far better comparison than Vietnam - like Iraq it is an artificially created nation constructed from warring factions where civil war will be inevitable.

It is in different place and different time between Vietnam and Iraq war. However, to my surprise the exit strategy now for Iraq, is almost a copy cat of Vietnam. My God! A Nobel Prize to James Baker ?

Neocons wastes a chance of their dreams of US empire and waste trillions of dollars because of Iraq war. The reason,they obsess the cod-war syndrome AND STRATEGY! No more, in a Global econimic time, we need new thinking to deal the evil country or countries. Liberate the economic power by econimic means is better than militarism means. VIETNAM IS NOW A TYPICAL CASE TO LEARN!!

i too was shocked & awed by bush’s statemnts in vietnam-ignorance on parade!

There is only one reason Republicans go to war: our national interest. There is only one “national interest” for Republicans: OIL.

We were in Vietnam about oil also. It wasn’t under the blood soaked ground, but offshore, but it was there or we wouldn’t have been.

What George W. Bush says or does is totally irrelevant; Bush is a moron.

The point here is that if we don’t “stay the course,” then we have wasted time, money, and lives over a useless exercise. Only if we continue to control a tenth of the known oil reserves on the planet does our Iraq adventure make any sense at all. There will never be an acceptable “solution” to the “Iraq problem” which doesn’t involve our remaining in control of that oil.

What you and others ought to be discussing is what will happen if we do NOT control that oil, or some other oil, and it’s not about gargantuan profits for oil companies, it’s about the economic survival of the United States.

We fought in Vietnam to secure the drug trade for the cia & oligarchs; it was not about communists. Communist Mao cooperated with the oligarch’s drug business, so he was allowed to survive, even thrive.

The current war is mainly about oil. The one with Iran (coming up) is about oil. Cheney called for bombing of Iran because he does not work for the US gov’t. He works for Halliburton and the oil companies. They run the US gov’t, in part.

I don’t believe we’ve had a good, honest president since JFK. He sought to get out of Vietnam. He sought to stop meddling in Cuba’s business. He sought to end the Federal Reserve system. He sought an end to organized crime. He approved France’s exit from Algeria. He did a lot of things that the oligarch’s couldn’t stomach. And so they had him killed. (Read the book, Final Judgment.)

The elections didn’t matter; dems or repubs, the real people in power stay in power. They’ll allow Bush jr to be impeached if and only if it suits their purposes. We’ll have a war with Iran if it suits their purposes. We’ll pay for it with our ever-increasing national debt, of course, while the oil companies take their profits by commandeering these countries’ resources. (I believe they actually want global warming—makes arctic exploration easier.)

I think GW smokes pot. He certainly does’t know his history. You’d think someone in his god-
forsaken administration would set him straight.

Bush will be Bush.

“We’ll succeed, unless we quit”.. nice quote from Bush; but sometimes after desperately wanting to succeed and after succeeding we may not have a neat path to look back and the recent elections and the verdict did prove that fact.

Every day now, we should be thankful that Americans have awakened to the tyrany of the Bush admin.  As in Vietnam, we will win by losing.  Bring home the troops

If only were Harry Truman worldly enough to have seen through the thuggery of the Dulles brothers, and partnered with his ally Ho, and given his people at least a fraction of the reconstruction support lavished on the defeated imperialists from Honshu, rather than ferry back the colonial deserters and brand Ho’s brave nationalists the vanguard in the global advance of Monolithic Communism — great rallying myth of the Cold War.

And why such a prestigious institution as the University of Chicago could not some measure of sound history have taught the fast-departing failures, too pathetic to call men, to dangerous to ignore, rather than allowing them to have been infected with the elitist musings of a misanthrope like Leo Strauss, and leading them ultimately into the light fantastic of the carefully cultivated myth of Islamic Fascism and its attendant War of Terror?

We’re not even close to the “end of history,” but we may very well be at the precipice of the fall of a great empire.

> Bush has said Iraq “is in many ways, religious in nature, and I don’t see the parallels” to Vietnam, but that is just another sign that he probably cut most of his history classes at Yale.< 

Perhaps, but more then likely part of the syndrome of the right wingers lying, if even lying to themselves.  I really can’t believe that they are so ignorant.

And we(the Bushites) are really turning up the screws on Cuba;—-Arresting people who are visiting there and preventing trade of European countries with Cuba. I can’t think of anything more evil than a right winger allowed to act out their evil ideology.