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Chris Hedges: Bring Down That Wall

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Posted on Nov 20, 2006
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A foreign peace activist holds on to a fence in front of Israeli security forces in riot gear during a protest against the construction of Israel’s separation barrier in the West Bank village of Bil’in near Ramallah in 2005.

By Chris Hedges

The last hope of halting Israel’s steady ghettoization of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and calculated destruction of the Palestinian economy is the imposition of sanctions against Israel, especially the revoking of the $9 billion in U.S. loan guarantees.  If we allow Israel to complete its massive $2-billion project to ring Palestinians in militarized, pod-like encampments in Gaza and the West Bank with security barriers, walls and electric fences, we will condemn Israel and the Palestinians to endless cycles of violence that could ultimately, given the mounting rage and despair that grip the Middle East, doom the Jewish state.

There is little dispute about the illegality of Israel’s actions.  The International Court of Justice has called on Israel to dismantle the security barrier under construction in the West Bank and asked outside states not to render any aid or assistance to the infrastructure.  But this call has been ignored, although even the U.S. State Department has gently admonished Israel for its behavior.  The U.S. loans that make the barrier and expansion of Jewish settlements possible were granted with the stipulation that if the Israeli government used the funds to build housing and infrastructure beyond the 1967 border known as the Green Line these funds would be deducted from the loans.  In April 2003, when Congress authorized the $9 billion in loan guarantees for Israel it said that the loans could be used “only to support activities in the geographic areas which were subject to the administration of the Government of Israel before June 5, 1967.” The legislation warned that the loan guarantees shall be reduced “for activities which the President determines are inconsistent with the objectives and understandings reached between the United States and Israel regarding the implementation of the loan guarantee program.” The State Department, acknowledging the misuse of the money, has made a symbolic deduction in the amount handed to the Israeli government and reduced the loan guarantees by $289.5 million.  But unless there is heavy pressure brought on Israel soon the project will be completed, made possible by Washington’s complicity and a callous disregard for justice. 

Israel is pumping hundreds of millions of dollars, some reports say as much as half a billion yearly, into its colonization of the West Bank.  Since 1967, Israel has spent more than $10 billion on its settlements, and the total estimated cost for the snaking security barrier, which slices deep into the West Bank and connects with settlements and security roads to create pod-like Palestinian ghettos, is at least $1.5 billion. The barrier is being used not only to annex Palestinian land but give Israel control of Palestinian aquifers and at least 40,000 acres of Palestinian farmland.  It has devastated Palestinian communities, often cutting them in half or denying farmers access to farmland.  Travel, even between communities on the West Bank, has become difficult, especially for men, and many have lost their jobs, plunging with their families into squalor and despair.

The spate of deadly attacks by Palestinian suicide bombers in Israel gave Israel the right to impose draconian measures.  A barrier running along the 1949 armistice/Green Line, which demarcates the boundary between Israel and Palestinian-held territory, was Israel’s prerogative.  But the barrier is being used as an excuse to seize Palestinian land, with 80 percent of the barrier cutting into Palestinian territory, often as deeply as 20 kilometers.  The barrier, which costs about $1 million per mile, will eventually be 703 miles long.  About 450 miles of the barrier are finished or under construction.  When it is done the Palestinians in the West Bank, like those in Gaza, will be caged like animals, with little ability to move, even to neighboring towns, find work or live beyond a subsistence level. 
The assault on Palestinian society has been accompanied by an alarming increase in Israeli attacks against Palestinians, including the current Israeli offensive in Gaza.  Fifteen tank shells landed this month in the town of Beit Hanoun, killing 19 people and wounding 40. Four women and nine children were among the dead. Two Palestinians were killed Saturday as Israel continued airstrikes and ground operations against suspected militant positions in the Gaza Strip, all coming a day after the U.N.  General Assembly urged an end to the escalating violence.
Israeli leaders, angered over Palestinian rocket attacks, have dismissed calls for restraint, with far-right cabinet minister Avigdor Lieberman calling for Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya and other militant leaders to be sent to “paradise.”

When Yasir Arafat agreed to end his exile to return to Gaza, swallow his pride and formally recognize Israel’s right to exist, when he turned his Fatah fighters into a collaboration police force in the West Bank and Gaza, he was broke.  The communist states that had once bankrolled him had collapsed.  He was humbled to the Oslo peace accord, under which he took the bitter pill of accommodation with his detested Zionist enemy.  Unless Israel too feels pressure it will never seek accommodation with the Palestinians, relying instead on increasing forms of repression and mounting violence.  These measures, depriving Palestinians of hope and dignity, are the fuel of radical movements and ensure not peace but unending war.  Israel has ignored the terms stipulated for the U.S. loan guarantees, and so we have a choice—to uphold our own demands and international law or be a party to Israeli policies that will lead to an unraveling of the region’s stability.

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By Robert, November 23, 2006 at 10:48 am #
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Re: Comment #39341 by Mark Kienan on 11/22

“1. What will happen when Iran has a nuclear weapon?
2. What will happen when the US puppet regimes of Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt are overthrown by the arab street just as is happening in Iraq?
3. What will happen when instead of fighting essentially unarmed muslim men, women and children Israel is confronted with nuclear armed muslim army that is seething with anger for the years of brutality openly and arrogantly meted out to Palestinians/Leboneses by the Israelis?
4. I expect there is going to be a precipitous move to make peace and also emigrate.
5. The day of a nuclear armed muslim/arab army is not far away. It is inevitable.”

Well Mark...surprisingly you failed to mention the following FACTS / TRUTH. May be you are not aware of these FACTUAL information?

1. WHICH COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE-EAST HAS STOCKPILES OF UNDECLARED NUCLEAR WEAPONS?

2. WHICH COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE-EAST HAS STOCKPILES OF UNDECLARED CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS?

3. WHICH COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE-EAST HAS NO OUTSIDE INSPECTIONS OF ITS NUCLEAR, CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL FACILITIES / FACTORIES?

4. WHICH COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE-EAST HAS KIDNAPPED AND JAILED ITS WHISTLE BLOWER, MORDECHAI VANUNU?

IT IS NOT IRAQ? IT IS NOT IRAN?

YOU MAY HAVE GUESSED IT! ITS...ISRAEL!!!

Why is it that the above details are almost never discussed or make the news topics on our US mainstream news media?

No one from our elected US officials dares to speak out & tell the TRUTH about ISRAEL’s undeclared massive arsenals of “WMD’s”. For anyone from our elected official or the mainstream news media reporters to bring these facts into the open for the American public to hear...would result in a career suicide.

Where do you think the Israeli’s got these weapons & the technology from? You guessed it… mainly the U.S.A.!

Israel gets the most sophisticated weapons from the US annualy...FREE OF CHARGE & no questions asked!

IF the MID-EAST needs to be “WMD” free, we should place ISRAEL on top of that list. Why the double standards in a region with very good resources for all Americans.

What resources does Israel has to offer our national interests?

Israel’s goals & objectives has been to keep that “smear & fear” wedge actively placed between the Arab/Moslem countries and the USA.

This way Israel can keep that US aid, $3-5 billion, per year flowing smoothly...so those Jewish settlements “Jewish Colonies” in the Occupied Territories can keep getting bigger in size & numbers.

So ask yourself again.. Who has those massive stockpiles of “WMD’s” in the Mid-East?

Which people & countries in the Mid-East should be in fear?

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By MA, November 23, 2006 at 9:38 am #
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THESE ARE THE BASICS....

Population of Palestine, since 12th century majority Muslim…

1850...350,000...85% Muslim
1922...752,000...589,000 Muslim
1947....1,970,000.....1,181,000 Muslims

Wikipedia…

During the war of 1948, many fled or were expelled from their homes in the part of the land that would become the State of Israel to other parts of the land or to neighbouring countries.

The UN estimates their number at 711,000 [1] while the Israeli estimate of the refugees is 420,000 and the Palestinian estimate is 900,000. The degree to which the flight of the refugees was voluntary or involuntary is hotly debated. Some cases of expulsion are well-documented, such as in Lydda and Ramle. In other cases, such as in Beersheba and Safed, the Arabs fled before Jewish troops had entered.[2]

From July 1946 until June 1948, Irgun fought as irregulars against the British mandate and Arab forces, informally in coordination with Haganah forces. Their participation in massacre at Deir Yassin , which accelerated the Arab exodus from Palestine on the eve of the founding of Israel[1] ,has been widely discussed and documented. Their largest single operation was a successful assault on Jaffa (an Arab enclave according to the UN partition plan) starting on April 25.

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By Brewer, November 23, 2006 at 12:32 am #
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I sense that some of the posters out there are beginning to understand the problem.

Most Americans cannot understand why anyone could hate them.

President Ahmadineajad of Iran said it:

“A regime has been established which does not show mercy even to kids, destroys houses
while the occupants are still in them, announces beforehand its list and plans to assassinate Palestinian figures and keeps thousands of Palestinians in prison. Such a phenomenon is unique – or at the very least extremely rare – in recent memory.
Another big question asked by people is why is this regime being supported?”

http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:v5RWPlOBK90J:news. bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/09_05_06ahmadinejadletter.pd f+Iran+letter&hl=en&gl=nz&ct=clnk&cd=3

(Incidently, he has never expressed a desire to wipe Israel off the map. His remarks have always been specifically aimed at the “Zionist Regime” – sorta like “regime change” as often touted by George W. Bush.)

Osama Bin Laden said it

“All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.”
http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

W. Scott Thompson Adjunct Professor of International Politics. The Fletcher School, Tufts University, Former White House Fellow and Assistant to the Secretary of Defense (1975-77) said it:

“An international coalition to rid the region and the world of a monster is a good thing. Why then does Washington have so little international support for its imminent war to achieve “regime change” in Iraq?…
The real reason why America can’t get support for its war can be summed up in one word, Palestine...On a broader front the creation of a Palestinian state would remove the sting that young Arabs have felt so poignantly. And then, instead of seeing the West’s inevitable victory over Saddam Hussein in Iraq as yet another humiliation, they could look to the building of new foundations of - we hope - democratic Arab states throughout the Middle East.”
“Iraq - It’s the Right War, But at the Wrong Time”
The Nation (Thailand)March 18, 2003

For what it is worth, I say it too – Palestine is the key.

The U.S. supports a fascist state in the Middle East which practices ethnic cleansing of people who are not Jews. That is why the U.S. is hated by Muslims.
Simple as that.

http://www.brewerstroupe.blogspot.com/

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By Spinoza, November 22, 2006 at 5:15 pm #
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Make certain you have an organism or two on December 22.

It is impossible to have peace without justice and without people being happy.

To that end we must fight fascism and all types of capitalism.

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By skrome, November 22, 2006 at 3:42 pm #
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In wars, there are winners and losers, and the winners, whether they are good or evil, call the shots. In 1967 Israel won the war and if the Palestinians and Arab states had made peace on Israeli terms back then, the whole area would probably be stable and thriving now with trade, tourism, and maybe even open borders. All things quite possible with peace. Think of Europe after WW11. It didn’t take long. Instead the Arabs chose the 3 NOs policy. No peace, No negotiations, and No recognition. Fortunately, some Arab states have changed their policy but now we have Hamas and Hezbolah who seem to embrace that regressive stance and have added their medievil version of Islam to the mix. To be sure, Israel has it’s own share of nutjobs, but it’s not official policy to call for the anilalation of their neighbors. What will happen when Iran goes nuclear with Ahmadinajad, and his Shiite version of end times, with his finger on the button. I think he’s more interested in wiping out Israel than in helping the Palestinians who will be vaporised along with the despised Zionists. It’s bad enough having our own guy with two more years left in power to push the button and fast forward to the rapture. Israel has made plenty of mistakes and maybe this wall is one of them, but when the redskins (oops, I meant native americans) have the wagon train surrounded and are firing in burning arrows, it’s not always easy to think straight.

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By Mark Kienan, November 22, 2006 at 3:40 pm #
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1. What will happen when Iran has a nuclear weapon?
2. What will happen when the US puppet regimes of Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt are overthrown by the arab street just as is happening in Iraq?
3. What will happen when instead of fighting essentially unarmed Palestinian men, women and children Israel is confronted with a nuclear armed muslim army that is seething with anger for the years of brutality openly and arrogantly meted out to Palestinians/Leboneses by the Israelis?
4. I expect there is going to be a precipitous move to make peace and also emigrate.
5. The day of a nuclear armed muslim/arab army is not far away. It is inevitable.

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By JSD, November 22, 2006 at 2:09 pm #
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The wall, of course, is a result of Israeli politics. It has lessened, no doubt, suicide bombing attacks, therefore creating the political situation in Israel for its extension, etc., and the ensuing abuses of its use.

The solution begins with a new U.S. Executive administration committed to resuming a Peace process; but more: committed to a just resolution in Palestine.

If and when this process resumes, the wall will, in all likelihood, be a latterly issue to get the Israelis to address--well after security issues, etc.

A new Peace Process should begin, conceptually, not with Palestinian Jews’ and Arabs’ issues, but with a U.S. realization that we Americans are responsible for what Israel does. Israel is both our ally and, more importantly, Israel is our client. We support Israel. Israel could not do what it does; Israel could not survive without us.

Therefore the U.S. is complicit in crimes committed by Israel. We must be jurist then in this respect. Without some measure of deep feeling for our American responsibility for the sufferings of both Arabs and Jews in Palestine, I have little hope for a truly comprehensive and finally just resolution to the problems there.

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By michaellange, November 22, 2006 at 1:14 pm #
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The similarities of how Jews were treated by th nazis in the warsaw ghetto are overwhelming; the comments by Avigdor Lieberman (a mouthpiece of the present government) as well as B. Netanyuh about mass transfer of Palestinians to Jordan has overtones of the Nazis’s Endloesung--the daily humiliation of a group of people simply because of their religion (one cannot say race as both Jews and Arabs believe they are both descended from Abraham) and language, wanton killings of palestinians on a daily basis, the imprisonment of an entire people in “Bantustans"--the only thing missing is the gaschambers, although Mr. Liebermann’s comment of sending Palestinians to Paradise raises this spectre as well.  And yet who is a t fault--essentially it is us Americans who do not want to admit that these atrocities could be stopped immedaiately by stopping the American financial support of Israel.. For America the ongoing Israeli unwillingness to come to terms with their Palestinian problem in a fair and internationally accepted way, is the prime issue of securing America’s national security.  Until Americans force their government to adopt a truly balanced view on this issue, they will not have any chance to succeed on any of the issues they have set out to achieve in the Middle East.  Their are many brave Israeliswho have spoken out on this issue as well as brave American Jews, yet why do we never see them invited on American talkshows.  For every Willaim Krystol, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams lets have an Amira Haass, Norman Finkelstein, Uri Avery, Nom Chomsky etc.  Until we rise up to being totally brainwashed and lied to by our corporate/government public and cable television outlets, we will rapidly march towards the Biblical Armaggedon that our rightwing pundits are promoting so lightheartedly.

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By Brewer, November 22, 2006 at 12:32 pm #
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It is not difficult to understand the confusion of well meaning Israel supporters. The media bias is extraordinary. The facts are rarely aired:

“During the conflict Palestinian children have consistently made up a disproportionately large number of Palestinian deaths. In this first year children’s deaths accounted for 24% of the Palestinians killed, while children’s deaths accounted for 17% of Israelis killed.
During this time, ABC reported on 56 Israeli children’s deaths (including repetitions in later newscasts) and 19 Palestinian children’s deaths – 200% of Israeli children and 15% of Palestinian children, a ratio of 13.8 to 1.
CBS reported on 37 Israeli children’s deaths (including repetitions) and 27 Palestinian children’s deaths – 132% of Israeli children’s deaths and 21% of Palestinian children’s deaths, a ratio of 6.4 to 1.
NBC reported on 45 Israeli children’s deaths (including repetitions) and 17 Palestinian children’s deaths – 161% of Israeli children and 13% of Palestinian children’s deaths, a ratio of 12.4 to 1.

Collectively, the networks reported on an average of 46 Israeli children’s deaths – 164% of the Israeli children killed – and 21 Palestinian children’s deaths – 16% of the Palestinian children killed. In other words, the networks reported on Israeli children’s deaths at a rate 10.2 times greater than Palestinian children’s deaths.
To understand the pattern of network news coverage of children’s deaths, it is useful to compare the number of deaths reported to the actual number that took place. While repeated coverage of Israeli children’s deaths creates an impression of a higher number of Israeli victims than there actually were, omissions of the majority of Palestinian children’s deaths considerably under-represents the number of Palestinian child victims.
Comparing the day-by-day reporting of children’s deaths to the actual daily death toll reveals an additional dimension of the distortion. In this comparison, we discover that the reports on Palestinian children’s deaths followed the curve for Israeli children’s deaths, rather than the much steeper curve of their actual death count.
This finding underscores the tendency by all three networks to report a fictional situation in which Israeli and Palestinian deaths occur at more or less the same rate, and illustrates the substantial gap between the reality of Palestinian fatalities and the coverage of them. It suggests that the desire to appear ‘balanced’ is too often prioritized above the need for accuracy.”

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/net-report.html

Consider that the Palestinian children die at the hands of a highly organized military force that claims to target only militants and the Israeli deaths are caused by random attacks. How is it possible that nearly eight times as many Palestinian children are being killed as are Israeli children?

http://www.brewerstroupe.blogspot.com

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By Robert, November 22, 2006 at 9:42 am #
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Re: Comment #39189 posted on 11/21

It looks like “Ken Schreier” has re-surfaced on this forum after last week’s defeat exit from “Israel’s Barrier to Peace” forum.

Ken is at it again with that same familiar zionist jewish method of screaming “anti-semitism” in order to attempt to silence TRUTH about his Israeli democracy “for Jews only”.

For references to above, one can type “barrier” in “truthdig.com” search area...which will take you to Chris Hedges: Israel’s Barrier to Peace & its 900 plus comments forum/discussion.

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By Robert, November 22, 2006 at 7:43 am #
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Re: Comment #39077 by Bill on 11/21

“Israel is certainly not perfect, but you can’t make peace with enemies who have no interest in peace. It’s not to the advantage of Hamas to make peace, after all. It’s not to the advantage of Syria and Iran, either. What choice is there?”

Wow...Bill!  Which source of our mainstream news media are you quoting & echoing here? Is it CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC...and others?

Our mainstream news media outlets are mainly owned & controlled by zionist Jews. Their main interests in regards to the Mid-East & Israel is to spew their propaganda of smear & fear of Arab & Moslem countries and, at the same time, shield Israel from any wrong doing or criticism.

Israel is a brutal terrorist state. Its brutal army continues to murder innocent Palestinians & Lebanese civilians without any respect for Human Rights, Geneva Conventions, International Law, UN Convensions. It relies on the U.S. for diplomatic cover & protection. The U.S. almost always vetoes any UN resolutions going against Israel’s for its brutal atrocities.

Israel continues to occupy Palestinian land and continues to expand its Jewish settlements all over the “Occupied Territories” defying International Law & UN resolution 242 & 338, which the U.S. supported.

Israel does NOT want peace at all. It wants to expand its boundaries & by murdering & evicting Palestinians from their homes & land.

So long as there is turmoil, which Israel prefers, so that U.S. aid keeps coming their way & with no questions asked. $3-5 billion dollars per year.

If there is peace in the region, why would Israel need $3-5 billion dollars of aid per year?

Look at who is funding and paying for that damn APARTHEID wall that separates people from their loved ones, their farms & olive trees, their hospitals, their schools, their villages, towns, their mosques, their neighbors.

Its those loyal American taxpayers!!!

Bill...here is a link for everyone on this forum to see the REAL Israel & its brutal IDF / settlers.

Human Rights workers viciously attacked by Israeli settlers. They were confronted by 100 settlers in small groups, who started chanting in Hebrew “WE KILLED JESUS, WE’LL KILL YOU TOO!”

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11& ar=687

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By jeff gershoff, November 22, 2006 at 7:39 am #
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I’m disgusted from reading all of the posts to this article.  Neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians are right or righteous.  They are both sad, blind, weasels fighting in a hole.  As to the rest of my fellow posters here.  Don’t you see the futility of this gnawing, frantic, anxious desire for “figuring this problem out”?  You’re not going to figure this problem out.  The knot, the rats nest, the labyrinth is so twisted and wrapped in and around itself it is simply just one ball of sludge.  If I were me, and I am, I’d start getting myself prepared for the new world order which is coming very soon and I’m afraid is the type of science fiction vision that is not very pretty to us “civilized” early 21st century humans.  Let’s quote Yeats, “Let all things pass away”.

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By Gloria, November 22, 2006 at 7:36 am #
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Israel can what it wants as long as I do not have to pay for it. That is the first thing that should have been said by President Bush on 9/11, “No country will receive another foreign aid payment until the masterminds of this attack are turned in to the United States of America.” But he didn’t say that and we and our grandchildren are going to pay for an unfinished war in Afganistan and an illegal invasion in Iraq for a hundred years. So Israel can build it’s fence if Israel pays for the fence itself. I am more worried about the stupid, expensive fence that we are going to build on the Mexican border. It would create jobs if we just used manpower and equipment to seal both borders and both coasts.

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By shum davar, November 22, 2006 at 1:23 am #
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Your article is simply more of the non sense propaganda put forward by anti Israel bashers. There has never been a Palestinian people, Palestinan language, or unique Palestinian culture. There are displaced people from many wars around the world but wouldn’t you think in six decades that the displaced from formerly “British Palestine” could have been successfully made citizens of any of the dozens of surrounding states.  The Polish German border has moved several times over the last cenury. Millions of ethnic Germans and Poles forced out of their farms, villages, and cities and made citizens of their new homeland.  In wars there are winners and loosers.  The Arabs (with your worldwide liberal support) have allowed this festering problem to continue.  Oslo was a shame and your Arafat honorarium pure hoakum.  Jordan is the Palestinian state with almost 80% of the population made up of decendants of British Palestine partition and the wars that followed it.  Let the rest of the Palestinians who don’t want to be Israeli join their families and move there !  If you lived in a nation the size of NJ you too would be threatened and damaged when the terrorists, suicide bombers, katushas and missles, strike. You would be only kilometers from such terror and death. Acts of war must be dealt with firmly.  The wall is only a protective measure. History has shown that wars usually are only terminated when on side has suffered horriffic casualties.  WW2 is the perfect example. Those that call themselves Palestinians are going to bring their own confligration onto themselves!

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By Ken Schreier, November 21, 2006 at 10:54 pm #
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The anti-Jewish talking heads are at it again !
Good thing they are very small in number !
Good thing their one sided support of the terrorist groups in the West Bank & Gaza are very evident, aka, Hamas & Hezbollah !
No condemnation of arab muslim doctrine for the destruction of Israel is ever stated on this website !
Thank God these people have no influence at all in the situation in the Middle East !
Keep those anti-Jewish comments coming people, so your prejudice & hate of the Jewish people can be seen by all who browse this racist site !
God help you to see the wrong that you do and enlighten your mind to understand the truth !

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By Warren Greer, November 21, 2006 at 10:40 pm #
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Dang!  I thought this was about the Wall between the U.S. and the rest of North America!  Oh, well.  As long as I’m here, here’s my two centavos.
The U.S. got the upper third of the United Mexican States (that’s who they are—it’s on their money) as spoils of war, after we settled Texas with Gringos who got land by attesting they had converted to Catholicism and became Mexican citizens.  The Latino Texans didn’t like the dictator, Santa Ana, so we pried Texas off with their help, then promptly (or not so promptly, those hot-blooded Latinos have a poorly developed sense of time as well as all the other things Schwarrttzzennegger documented) took all their land away from them.  Now, we keep them starving at home, working illegally in U.S., and second-class all the way!  They are our spoils of war, right?  The loot that keeps on producing booty! 
Well, I hope this fit into the discussion you guys were having.  I like the part about
Waaaalls!

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By Robert, November 21, 2006 at 6:32 pm #
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(’"THE VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS I THINK IN THIS TERRITORY IS MASSIVE,” LOUISE ARBOUR, THE UN HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, SAID DURING A VISIT TO BEIT HANOUN, GAZA, A TOWN THE ISRAELI ARMY SHELLED EARLIER THIS MONTH, KILLING 19 PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS.)

The pictures reflect the pain, suffering, and the abuse of human rights of Palestinians by Israel’s brutal policy & army.

Here is the link where the pictures tell the rest of the tragic STORY:

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11& ar=693

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By Ned, November 21, 2006 at 3:16 pm #
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I love the logic of the pro-Israeli arguments.  How is taking 40% of Palestinian land a form of self defense?  Israel is the only nation in the world who can get away with such atrocities.

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By Brewer, November 21, 2006 at 12:32 pm #
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Since partition, Israel has increased it’s landholding in Greater Palestine from approximately 50% to 78%. It has done this through the implementation of a deliberate policy of terror against a people whose only defences are home-made rockets and their own bodies. The current death rate is 76 Palestinian to 1 Israeli and the majority of Palestinian casualties are civilian. The Settlements in occupied territory are a crime under the Geneva convention. An Israeli organization, PeaceNow, has just announced that 40% of the settlements occupy stolen private land (http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/790748.html)
Israeli so-called “peace initiatives” are chimera. The invasion and terror have never let up. Oslo was a hopelessly flawed initiative designed to either legitimise Israeli incursions and create a Palestinian State impossible to manage, or to fail entirely and excuse further incursions.
For years, Israel has shelled, bombed and bulldozed Palestinian houses and olive groves, killing civilians. It routinely carries out the kidnapping and assassination of any Palestinian citizen it pleases, including democratically elected officials.
The wall serves two purposes. On the one hand it alienates vast tracts of Palestinian land and on the other, it turns Gaza and the West Bank into a series of concentration camps, seperating Palestinians from schools, medical services and each other. It will not bring security and peace to Israel and that is not it’s purpose. (See “The Fence”
http://www.brewerstroupe.blogspot.com/ )
Israel’s actions in Palestine, South Lebanon and Golan have a single purpose, the expansion of an Apartheid State.
This anachronistic, fascist wall must be stopped

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By Helmut, November 21, 2006 at 12:06 pm #
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Yes, the ZOG runs every thing. It isnt the US military industrial Complex. It is ZOG. It isnt the Anglo Saxon / Germanic elite that have been running the show since Constantine was the Emperor; it is the lowly shylock and his brethren that call the shots. Buh. Whatever. Build the wall, enslave the palestinians. Engulf the middle east in flames, let the flames spread to the rest of the world so that we can finally be rid of the disease (Man). And who will be left to claim the prize? The same Anglo Saxon Germanic Cabal that was running the show to begin with. Straight out of Sun Tzu, classic end game, set and match. Shalom!

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By Bill, November 21, 2006 at 8:00 am #
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What does Chris Hedges expect? It takes two to make peace. And every halting Israeli step towards peace (like unilaterally giving up the Gaza strip, for example) finds no corresponding movement on the other side, just more violence, more attacks on their citizens.

You’ve got two sides that hate each other, with strong disagreements between them and no trust at all. You don’t wipe that away in an instant. No, if they truly want peace, one side makes minor concessions, slow movements toward peace, and the other does the same.

This isn’t happening here. Israel’s attempts are met with increased violence (which simply increases the power of hard-liners in that country). What are they to do now? If you can’t have peace, you must try to protect yourself the best you can. You must try to survive until someday, maybe, your enemies will be ready to start the long, slow peace process.

Israel is certainly not perfect, but you can’t make peace with enemies who have no interest in peace. It’s not to the advantage of Hamas to make peace, after all. It’s not to the advantage of Syria and Iran, either. What choice is there?

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By dboylon, November 21, 2006 at 5:19 am #
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All empires rise and fall. This is the way of history. Americans and Israelis don’t see it coming. When America has its financial collapse who will support Israel then? Israel is doomed. They are there own worst enemy. If their leaders were smart they would have negotiated peace along the Saudi initiative when America first invaded Iraq. They would have been negotiating from a point of strength. Israel already looks weak because of Lebanon. The price for peace has gone up...and it will only get worse for them.

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By Jaded Prole, November 21, 2006 at 3:53 am #
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Jimmy Carter is right to ask “Peace or Apartheid.” There is no place in the civilized world for states based on ethnicity and terror. It’s time for us to stop underwriting Israel. That is the only avenue to peace in the middle east. Don’t count on the Democrats to do anything but continue our blind support for zionist terror. We must turn up the heat and demand an end to US support.

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By Robert, November 20, 2006 at 7:21 pm #
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American Israel Public Affair Committee (AIPAC) occupies the U.S. Congress. Its lobbyists are all over Washington, Congress & US Senate offices drumming up support for a foreign country...ISRAEL.

Its not about American national interest; its all about Israel & Jewish interests!

Who is footing the never endless bill for this persistent & cancerous support? Its the American taxpayers!

Israel gets $3-5 billion dollars of American aid per year.

Over $108 billion dollars of American aid to Israel (1948-2006) non-stop & on-going right this minute.

Americans are in the dark when it involves Israel, AIPAC & the lobbyist’s pressure on our elected officials.

The American people need to wake up & get rid of this malignant CANCER that is spreading & suffocating our souls! We should demand that American interests come first.

We should stand, support & demand for TRUTH, fairness, justice, human rights, UN charters, just peace, international law in the Mid-East.

We should not let Cheney and his gang(Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz,Adelman, Douglas feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Ari Fleischer, Scooter Libby & others) at the Pentagon take complete control of American policy in the Mid-East.

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By busta, November 20, 2006 at 3:52 pm #
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The Berlin wall was to separate to world powers ready to destroy each other, and only went down when both sides decided to use reason to come to peace instead of distrust and hate.  This wall should come down when both of these groups have that same reasoned moment, until then it should not come down.

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By How about recognizing who was bombing who? No one, November 20, 2006 at 2:53 pm #
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Such rot.  If you lived under so many years of irrational bombing, hatred, and international isolation, much of it even long before the intifada I and II, how would you react?  The US has one bombing by a international terrorist and we go irrational.  Israel has managed to stay a democracy and an regional economic giant even under this pressure. 

I do not justify claiming farmland and aquifers, nor do I want to justify separating Palestinians from their lawful work, but the Israelis have lived under the potential for destruction since 1948.  The Arabs, or more precisely, the Arab nationalists, tried to eliminate Israel 4 times officially and now many times unofficially.  For all the legitimate suffering in the West Bank and Gaza, for Allah’s sake, where is the Arab investment in those communities, huh?  Ask why the Arab league has never stepped in to help the Palestinian communities.  Ask why it is Hamas and Hezbollah that are given funds set up clinics and food banks.  Ask why aid from Arab countries, amongst the wealthiest in the world is generally military and not about building infrastructure.  Why?  Quite simply:  because that sort of constructive help would give the Palestinians a reason to give up their current fight and reduce the ability to recruit for the destruction of Israel.

Israel is not blameless.  But as a previous writer suggested, being against an act does not make me against Israel.  The issue is really not about a fence—it’s about how to protect yourself when your neighbor refuses to acknowledge your right to live next door.

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By One For Dissent, November 20, 2006 at 12:43 pm #
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Obviously the Globalists, who are in control of the U.S. government (you’re an absolute mindless, fearful sheep if you don’t see that) know that many, many American Christians love the Jews and Isreal, because they are God’s chosen people and it is the Promised Land. They are USING the U.S. to implement their evil reign on the world, and the Middle East must come to peace (every state must buy into the world banking system) before that will ever happen. Many Christian theologians believe the Anti-Christ will rise out of Isreal.

But if Man still has the strength to SEE this and defeat this, then it may not happen in our time.

Who is fed up with our government not doing what the majority of Americans want? Down with tyranny! Die you evil internationalist bastards!

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By k shamash, November 20, 2006 at 12:17 pm #
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Wall is a shame.  Bigger shame is these sick idealogues who are bent on killing and maiming innocents. 
Hence the wall.  Shame but very necessary.

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By felicity, November 20, 2006 at 11:21 am #
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International Court of Justice said that the wall Israel is building violates international law, must stop and what is built must be torn down.  Israel argues that human rights treaties do not apply to what it does in the Palestinian territory or the West Bank.

The US, by funding the wall is acting outside of International Law.

We scream bloody murder when another country - Iran, North Korea, Iraq...defies the ICJ or a particular UN Resolution, but are amazingly quiet when we do. Our hypocracy is stunning.

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By MARIAM RUSSELL, November 20, 2006 at 9:06 am #
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BTW.......

I do not equate objecting to the carnage wrought by the Jewish State with being ¨ANTI-SEMITIC¨, A MISUSE OF THE WORD, BY THE WAY, AS SEMITES ARE/WERE JEWS, ARABS, THE ANCIENT ASSYRIANS, BABYLONIANS, CARTHAGINIANS, ETHIOPIANS, AND PHOENICIANS.

I also do not equate objecting to the carnage wrought by the government of the US at the behest of the corporations to un-patriotism.....quite the opposite.

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By harsaru, November 20, 2006 at 8:57 am #
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shades of the concentration camps??????

Why is this happening?
Why is the world quiet?
Don’t the israeli’s think that palestinians are human beings?
Why does the majority of the media in the west always take the side of Israel when they are clearly in the wrong?

why?

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By MARIAM RUSSELL, November 20, 2006 at 8:54 am #
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Ya know, Chris, the Jewish state maybe needs to be doomed. So Our Mr. Hitler killed six million of them. That is a shame, and I´m sorry, but does that make me willing to see them commiting the exact same atrocities on a people whose only crime was that they were living on the land that the Jews lived on several thousand years ago? And, because of the amount of my and your taxpayer dollars that go to support and arm Israel, my and your names are on every bomb and other method of destruction used.

ENOUGH, I SAY.

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By harald hardrada, November 20, 2006 at 8:54 am #
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israel’s desperation stems from its demographics

since the last russian jews arrived, israel’s had to depend on the declining fertility of its own citizens—meanwhile palestinians are multiplying fast

americans want to build their own border fence: they take their cue from the israelis—official analysts think they’re clever in saying israel’s the 51st state, but they’re wrong: america’s a province of israel

america’s skewed desperation [frightened white folks] is more complex than israel’s, given that immigrants keep coming, offset partly by the decline in blacks as some blacks become white & as other blacks have smaller families

israelis & america’s frightened white folks pool their interests through their common warmongering & general hostility to the Other, whoever the Other may be—it’s no accident that condoleezza threatens everybody in sight & that bolton shrieks at other countries in the united nations—these are signs of america’s lost strength

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By Quy Tran, November 20, 2006 at 8:14 am #
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New Berlin walls have been erected. One in Gaza and the other in Arizona.

God Bless all the victims !

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By Julia Glifford, November 20, 2006 at 8:01 am #
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Israel is the villain in all these wars. All the dead, all the money - why can’t Americans free themselves from these demons.

Wolfowitz, Perle, Ledeen, all Israeli Jews.

These are our enemies.

Wake up you stupid GOY ... we are a nation under occupation

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