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Posted on Nov 9, 2006
Dennis Kucinich
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Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio waves after speaking to delegates during the Democratic National Convention at the FleetCenter in Boston, Wednesday, July 28, 2004.

By Joshua Scheer

In an original Truthdig interview, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), the potential next chair of the Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats, and International Relations, calls for congressional hearings into how and why America invaded Iraq, and demands “accountability” for those who led America into a “war based on lies.”

(Disclosure: Interviewer Scheer worked as an entry-level staffer on Kucinich’s state Senate campaign, and was later a summer associate in his congressional office.)



TRUTHDIG: Do you have a plan that could get us out of Iraq?

KUCINICH: I’ve had a plan to get us out of Iraq from the minute we got there. I’ve had it on my website for three years—elements of which are still very viable. It calls for the U.S. to give up its control of the oil assets to move towards soliciting U.N. involvement.

TRUTHDIG:  Do you think the neocons are done, or do they have life left in them yet?

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KUCINICH: I think they’re going to have to answer for the direction that they took this country. I don’t think this election, in and of itself, ends the questions about those who led us into a war based on lies. As a matter of fact, the only hope they have is to do a reversal and lead the way out of Iraq. Because even at this moment a number of their top adherents are continuing to insist on an active U.S. presence in Iraq.

Even now there are people who were urging President Bush to go to war who are staying that wrongful course. And people have to be held accountable. You can’t lead this country into a war that has lost thousands of U.S. troops and perhaps hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, [and that has] cost the American taxpayers $400 billion—and maybe up to $2 trillion—and leave it with some kind of blithe apology. There has to be accountability. When the people elected Democrats, they also voted for accountability.

The American people are relying on us—not just to take a new direction, which I believe is out of Iraq, but they’re insisting on accountability for those who led us wrongly into Iraq.

TRUTHDIG: Are you planning investigations?

KUCINICH: It’s imperative for there to be accountability. How that accountability is enforced is going to be the subject of a lot of debate. But that there should be accountability is absolutely imperative.

TRUTHDIG: [Rep. Nancy] Pelosi said she was going to go across the aisle and work with a lot of the Republicans who voted for the war….

KUCINICH: This isn’t about whether or not someone voted for the war as a member of Congress. Members of Congress have to be free to be able to choose again based on new information. So, it’s OK if somebody was once for the war, and they looked at it again—that’s OK. The problem is the attempt to cover up what was obviously a war based on lies. That’s the problem.

TRUTHDIG:  So how are you going to expose that coverup?

KUCINICH: We need to have hearings on Iraq again. We need to go over again why we went there. We need to review the statements and all the errors that were made, and from that we bring the country together to take a new direction. It’s all fact-based. And then we start to heal our nation. But we cannot heal America if we continue with policies that are based on lies. We’ll never be able to bring closure to this Iraq matter unless we tell the truth about what happened. So America needs a new approach of truth and reconciliation. This isn’t a Democratic or Republican matter. This is a matter that relates to the conscience of this country. This is a matter of the heart—the heart of democracy itself. This is a matter of whether we’re going to a sober reflection about the events that have transpired since 9/11, with respect to Iraq. And until we do this, we will be trapped not only physically in Iraq, we’ll be trapped emotionally and spiritually in Iraq. We may never get out of Iraq if we don’t tell the truth.

There shouldn’t be any partisan direction on this. We should all be together. America wants a new direction in Iraq; it stated it loud and clear. It wants a Congress that’s going to question the president, not a rubber-stamp Congress. This is a time to tell the truth and to heal our nation. And the time for Congress to function as a co-equal branch of government and for the government to function as it was intended to function.

We must never forget that the people have asked for a new direction, and now it’s up to us to help them achieve that.

TRUTHDIG: So you’re calling for hearings right now?

KUCINICH: We definitely should have hearings, but the actual decision about whether or not to convene them will be up to the Democratic leadership.

TRUTHDIG: What do you make of Bush’s getting rid of Rumsfeld?

KUCINICH: Listen, Rumsfeld may no longer be secretary of defense, but he made decisions based on lies that took people to their deaths. He has to be held accountable—secretary or not. And the rest of the people who were involved with the decision-making process have to be held accountable.

TRUTHDIG: You’re OK with the social conservatives coming to the [Democratic] Party?

KUCINICH:  The Democratic Party is a big tent. And we have to remain a big tent.

TRUTHDIG: And what about the people who basically only ran on the issue of being antiwar?

KUCINICH: Whether people specifically were elected in opposition to the war is almost beside the point. The American people voted in a new Congress because of the war. We have to recognize that. We have to recognize that the American people demand a new direction. So then the question is going to be: How do we, as Democrats, keep faith with the people, in assuring that there is accountability? That’s what the people want. They want to make sure that all these people that brought us into war have to answer for their decisions. And so far, you know what? They haven’t had to answer. We’re going to have to go back over the territory: How did we get into Iraq? You cannot talk about an exit plan unless you know how you got in. And once people understand very clearly how we got in, then it becomes more imperative to get out.


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By M. Castillo, July 17, 2007 at 10:14 am Link to this comment
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Should there be an Investigation?? Absolutely. However As an American speaking out to other Americans, We should have saw this Absolute CRIME coming when there was a “Voting Error” During the presidential 2000 votes in the state of Florida? That was the first clue and I can not believe that we allowed this to happen. Americans we need to pay special close attention to these people that are running for president. what are their motives, Are they a former “anything” in the Business world??? I don’t want to come off as Questioning us as a nation But we need more info on the candidates background and don’t simply rely on the media! The Tren are always that We Americans are the last ones to know The Lies and by then its to late and nobody want to mess with it…. The Bush admin in my first Admendment God given Right should be Investigated and sit back and watch the Senators and House of Rep Show us “The world most intellectual crime ever in the History of mankind” unfold…..........

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By Mike Rivers, December 12, 2006 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment
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white power

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By Edward Shipwash, December 12, 2006 at 10:26 am Link to this comment
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It is important to determine the real reason we are in Iraq today. And that will require an investigation. War crimes, torture, and perpetual lying by the Bush Administration should be sufficient grounds for an impeachment. But an investiagation into how we got into Iraq is a good place to start.

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By Larry, November 22, 2006 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment
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Please someone actually being accountable for something-not in this government-and not in any of our lifetimes-sad and very true. Greed rules and always will.

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By yours truly, November 21, 2006 at 11:37 am Link to this comment
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Change he world anyone?  Just so happens that it’s now doable.  How?  We see to it that Congress passes the Kucinich bill that cuts off all funding for the Iraq War.  Said move begets TROOPS OUT NOW, which leads to the impeachment of George Bush plus his subsequent trial at the International Court of Criminal Justice on the charge of crimes against humanity.  And after that?  Empire collapses.  And then?  It’ll be up to us.

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By Antoinette, November 20, 2006 at 7:56 am Link to this comment
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If we cringe at the prospect of investigations and another impeachment process, we will have another President at another time, that follows the blue print left behind by Bush Chaney and Rove with the backing of a rubber stamp congress.

The question is, can America afford a second coming of another satanic administraion that attacks soveriegn nations, pillages and kills for the ultimate prize of enslaving nations for thier natural resources?

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By yours truly, November 19, 2006 at 4:27 pm Link to this comment
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Our president is about to take a called third strike.  The first strike against him will be the passage of the Kucinich bill that cuts off all funding for the Iraq war.  The second strike is his impeachment,  towards which the Congressional hearings on the Iraq war will prove most beneficial.  The third strike, of course, is his trial at the International Court of Criminal Justice -  “Members of the jury, on the charge of crimes against humanity, what is your verdict?”  “Guilty as charged, your honor.”

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By Gonnuts, November 19, 2006 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment
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Investigations? Gee, what a great idea.

While your at it would you also “investigate” 9/11 one more time.

Maybe you can tell us how WTC Building #7 fell?

Just that. You answer that one question and let’s see where it leads.

Than know this - everything that’s happened since was in reaction to 9/11.

Now who benefited?

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By Sylvia Barksdale Morovitz, November 18, 2006 at 5:07 pm Link to this comment
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Rep. Kucinich makes many good points in his consideration for accountability about getting into the Iraqi war.  They’re all right.  Each and every person who swore to abide by our constitution when elected to serve Americans who had a part in the deceit to involve our country in an illegal, grossly immoral war should and must be called to answer.  A democracy cannot simply allow them to go riding off into the sunset, scott free of this killing responsibility.

More than all Rep. Kucinich covered is the vitally important aspect of setting the example that America, we the people, will not tolerate a repeat performance by any person aspiring to become president of our country or by any person who occupies the Oval Office.  Straight ftrom the top, down the chain of command, all must be called to answer and, as any common criminal, pay the ultimate cost.

Moreover, it is a must, so that our descendants know that we have not abandoned them to a government that has committed these atrocities; that we have paved the way to once again, have those we’ve elected do the will of the people as set out in our constitution.

Just the crimes we all know of would, if answered, place Bush, Cheyney, Rumsfeld and others behind bars for the rest of their lives.  We do not need to know of the crimes as yet hidden.  The horrors of Iraq; the conspiracy to validate Bush’s invasion, is enough for American’s to bear.

The very idea of President Clinton being impeached for a blow-job [pardon the language, it could be worse], in comparrison to the crimes against humanity planned and carried out by Bush, Inc. is enough to make Satan cringe.  Let’s get on with it.

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By WoodyY, November 18, 2006 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment
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Bush’s statements, yesterday concerning what he had learned from the Vietnam war left me spluttering and thinking about the nature of ‘Folly’.. First, I would like to recommend a great book by
the great American historian Barbara Tuchman, ‘The March of Folly: From Troy to Vietnam’. In this book Tuchman sets out what constitutes true Folly as committed by a nation, using the fall of Troy in the Homer’s Iliad as example. She saw Folly as having four components:
1) The act must be one of choice , something not closely bound to the national interest. In her first example, the Trojans had no pressing need to bring that big wooden horse inside the gates of the city.
2) The nation must have been clearly warned against this action.
In the example, Cassandra’s warning, ”Beware of Greeks bearing gifts” falls on deaf ears.
3) The act must be done without thought of any of it’s consequences. In the example, ‘Why would you want a big Greek horse inside the walls of your city, in the first place”?
4) Having committed the act, a nation must do something to make the possible negative consequences much worse. In the example, after bringing the Trojan horse inside the gates the army of Troy sets out to get dead drunk.

In her book Tuchman sets out about half a dozen historical examples of true national ‘Folly’ ending with Vietnam. There is no clearer textbook example Folly in recent history than Iraq. That it was a war of choice and that all warnings against it were ignored is obvious, as is the lack of any consideration of consequences .The disbanding of the Iraqi army and ‘debaathification of the civil government are strong contenders for point #4 but there are of course others….

  The Greeks had a word for the real lesson of all this, ‘Hubris’.  Arrogant leaders never learn from their mistakes and nations that willfully believe they will, whether in Nixon’s ‘Secret Plan for Peace in Vietnam’, or Bush’s ‘New Course in Iraq’ are bound for tragedy.

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By mrJJ, November 17, 2006 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment
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WASHINGTON—A Senate Democrat who will chair its Judiciary Committee next year asked the Justice Department to release newly acknowledged documents setting U.S. policy on how suspects in the war on terrorism are detained and interrogated.

“The American people deserve to have detailed and accurate information about the role of the Bush administration in developing the interrogation policies and practices that have engendered such deep criticism and concern at home and around the world,” Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.


Leahy demanded two documents whose existence the CIA recently acknowledged in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union.

“If President Bush and the Justice Department authorized the CIA to torture its prisoners, the public has a right to know,” said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU attorney involved in the case.

The first document is a directive Bush signed giving the CIA authority to set up detention facilities outside the U.S. and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees.

The second is a 2002 memo from the Justice Department’s office of Legal Counsel to the CIA General Counsel regarding interrogation methods that the spy agency may use against top al Qaida members.

Leahy asked Gonzales to produce any revisions and analyses of those and other memos. He also requested agency documents that interpret the scope of interrogation practices permitted and prohibited by the detainee Treatment Act or the Military Commissions Act.

A Justice Department spokesman had no immediate comment

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111701446.html

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By Sleeper, November 17, 2006 at 8:31 am Link to this comment
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Nico,

I like the expression of “The Great Cleansing”.  We need one yet I have doubts that it is going to occur anytime soon.  The majority of our Represenatives don’t have the stomache for it.  They might get caught up in some vicious battles within their little club.  Others might use their corporate friends to assasinate their character.  The Corporate leaders can get pretty dirty.

It is much easier for them to send the fools who believe that our government represents virtuous ideals to a Combat Zone.  Fools and their lives will soon part while greed is the staple in D.C. 

The crowd in Washington is gathering now.  A few new faces, but the dance remains the same.  Rhetoric here and rhetoric there no change here and no change their, but the money still flows in D.C.

Thats the way the Corporate Sponsors of our Represenatives like it.  They always get what they want.

We need TRUTH, but we are not going to get it without a fight.  The Vampires or War profiteers like Cheney who’s stock holding in Haliburton went up 3000% in 2005 are not afraid to shoot people.  He has a whole military complex to defend him.

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By Montie Shields USAF RET., November 16, 2006 at 10:44 pm Link to this comment
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I just read some great comments, and some not
so great. ie: One comment was about Nancy
Pelosi not calling for Impeachment Trials. I
ask you since the voters left so many Neo Cons
in office do you think the Democrats could get
a TWO THIRDS (2/3) MAJORITY to vote guilty?
These same people knew they couldn’t get a
guilty vote on President Clinton. They just
wanted to embarrass him. All is not lost “W”
and his goons can be brought to trial as War
CRIMINALS later.

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By Debra Istvanik-Strotman, November 16, 2006 at 10:28 pm Link to this comment
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The two things that appear in almost every article on Iraq and the Bush regime are “The repubicans are done,” and “No impeachment.”
Do not underestimate this regime because Bush and friends believe they are above the law, have covered their tracks, and put it in the minds of some mindless people to ‘play nice.’ They want you to think only vindictive democrats who want to get even, would start hearings on impeachment for no other reason than pay back.
Bush was in office only a few months when he talked about sending troops to Columbia to stop the drug business. At the time I wrote a letter to the editor of a newspaper saying: Bush is looking for a war and at this time it appeared it would be against Columbia. I was wrong about the country, right about Bush wanting and finding a war.
I want to know why our military personel have died, or returned damaged by a war that Bush wanted. Why ‘no bid’ contracts, why ‘all the waste by contractors who did virtually nothing over there and yet got paid.’ Torture on prisoners, spying on Americans, etc, etc.
Bush should go on trial first, Cheney and Rumsfeld and a list of others should follow.
  Let’s not play nice, let’s get the truth, “for the truth shall set we, the citizens free, and hopefully put the rest behind bars.”
  The list goes on and on. Bush should

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By Nico, November 16, 2006 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment
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ABSOLUTELY!  Hunt them all down. 

We must discover all that we can in order to understand what has taken place so that hopefully it can be avoided in the future.

The people of this country are just now beginning to realize how many crimes have been committed by the likes of individuals in the CIA, FBI, NSA, FAA, NORAD, American Airlines, United Airlines, FEEMA, NIST, NTSB, the US Military, the Pentagon, the White House, the House and the Senate, and any number of other governmental organizations and agencies along with their civilian operations. 

These anonymous traitors have emboldened our sick demented President and supported his murderous treasonous campaigns while shredding the Constitution.  Collectively they engineered and/or allowed 911 to happen and lent whatever assistance they could to get us into Afghanistan and Iraq.  No doubt there is a money trail there as long as the list of lies and deciet.

NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN HELD RESPONSIBLE IN ANY WAY FOR THE MOST SYSTEMIC HENIOUS DERELICTION OF DUTY AND DEPRAVITY THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN.

As Imus said, Peolsi is a dirtbag.  And I have to agree.  How dare she decide that ‘impeachment is off the table?’ 

Throw her under the bus Dennis, and all those that would stand in the way of THE GREAT CLEANSING.

DENNIS FOR PRESIDENT!

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By Lawrence J. McDonald, November 16, 2006 at 11:57 am Link to this comment
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The Worst Mayors (1820-1993)
Next, and seventh worst, is Cleveland’s Dennis Kucinich (1977-79). Only thirty-one years old when elected, Cleveland’s “boy” mayor had failings that were not the sins of venality or graft for personal gain, but rather matters of style, temperament, and bad judgment in office. Kucinich earned seventh place the hard way: by his abrasive, intemperate, and confrontational populist political style, which led to a disorderly and chaotic administration. He barely survived a recall vote just ten months into office, then disappeared for five weeks, reportedly recuperating from an ulcer. When he got back into the political fray, his demagogic rhetoric and slash-and-burn political style got him into serious trouble when he stubbornly refused to compromise and led Cleveland into financial default in late 1978—the first major city to default since the Great Depression. That led also to Kucinich’s defeat and exit from executive office. Out of office, he dabbled in a Hollywoodesque spirit world and once believed he had met actress Shirley MacLaine in a previous life, seemingly confirming his critics’ charges that he was a “nut-cake.” After that, he experienced downward mobility, losing races for several other offices and finally ending up with a council seat; but more recently, he climbed back up to a seat in Congress. Bad judgment, demagoguery, and default also spelled political failure in the eyes of twenty-five of our experts, who ranked Dennis, whom the press called “the Menace,” as seventh-worst.

The American Mayor
The Best & The Worst Big-City Leaders
By Melvin G. Holli
The Pennsylvania State University Press

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By Jack, November 16, 2006 at 9:40 am Link to this comment
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“We may never get out of Iraq if we don’t tell the truth.”
- Rep. Dennis Kucinich

Truth is the issue, and the lack of it is the explanation for what has happened these past six years.

From Saddam Hussein to Social Security, the Republicans have not told the truth on a single issue.

It appears, as predicted, that we have indeed got the government we deserve.

To paraphrase Rep. Kucinich, we will never be free of our own corruption if we don’t tell the truth.

The mission of the Democratic party should be clear by now: Find the truth. Tell the truth to the American people. Lead accordingly.

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By matt, November 16, 2006 at 8:41 am Link to this comment
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nothing short of impeachment / imprisonment of bush
and dennis in the white house will regain my faith in this country

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By Dee, November 16, 2006 at 6:32 am Link to this comment
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yes, we know why but…after the WWII is was decided that it would be ion the country’s “best interest” not to investigate american corporate complicity in the arming and financing of nazi germany.  as a result the myth of american exceptionalism (the shining city on the hill) and how the war was won (it was won by the russians at stalingrad, btw) was allowed to grow.  now sixty years later, literally the sons and grandson of the same families have continued to undermine democracy and promote authoritarianism in america.

truth is the best deodorant and if this country is to move forward and continue to fulfill and expand the promise that all are created equal then it must be done.

then and only then, it may be possible we won’t get fooled agin

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By Jon B, November 15, 2006 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment
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If money and TV ad are not allowed in political campaign and all candidates are by law(if there is one) to debate on public television, then it is highly likely that we will have an honest president like Kucinich who is not leashed by big money.

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By aws, November 15, 2006 at 11:20 am Link to this comment
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Accountability—Essential: to set a precedent, and give fair warning to those who may seek in the future to subvert the constitution and deceive the American people.

It is not about revenge for the past, it is about protecting the future of freedom.

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By Buzz Wilms, November 15, 2006 at 10:29 am Link to this comment
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Great interview Mr. Scheer!  Now let’s hope that Dennis gets the appointment.

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By ttwsuf, November 14, 2006 at 7:19 pm Link to this comment
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Rita’s comments are right on.  I wish I was as artiiculate.  Thank you

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By Stan F, November 14, 2006 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment
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I didn’t vote for the Democrats in this election.  I didn’t vote for the Republicans either.  As I usually do, I voted for Libertarian candidates, where available.

But I’ll tell you this:  You (Democrats) do what you said, you hold this administration accountable, you impose the penalties provided by law on those responsible, and I’ll be proud to support the Democratic party with my vote, energy, and advocacy for a long, long time.

You want to keep on winning elections?  Give the people what they demand.  The comments right here provide excellent insight into the will of the people with regards towards our expectations of your future job performance.  We’re counting on you.  Don’t let us down!

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By marcyincny, November 14, 2006 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment
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I just don’t understand; who the hell will care if there were hearings in 2007 ten to fifteen years from now when the last of the ice-shelves slips off the coast of Greenland??

The work required to establish some kind of carbon tax is monumental and doesn’t leave much room for anything else.

The people who care already know who did what.

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By Matthew G. Leeds, November 14, 2006 at 9:24 am Link to this comment
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I agree that hearings need to be held.  It would be great if they could be seen as something other than partisan payback.  If someone leads them that we can trust, such as Kucinich, then maybe it would be best if they were not open to the press.

It could be announced that this is a fact finding investigation with no partisan agenda.  In keeping with this, the hearings will be closed to the press, and that its testimony and findings will be announced to the Congress and the press when they are complete.

This would allow Congress to get on with its business while the investigations go forward.

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By Jim Sofra, November 14, 2006 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
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Morning Dennis,

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the neocons are on the run

because a few of us had the fun

of making calls around the states

about our ultimate fate

if we don’t get rid of these bums!

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The MoveOn calling was a great way to network, and I heard a desire for change in most of the people I had a conversation with.

It’s one way to build the inertia we’re going to need to get through the next decade, we need to get together in aggregate to deal with these pervasive crimes.

Excellent comments above.

Love you all.

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By larry gering, November 14, 2006 at 7:35 am Link to this comment
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with all due respect Mr. Kucinich, why the USA invaded Iraq, which was never a threat to anyone except its own people, is irrelevant.  The USA needs to leave ASAP and let them fight their own battles….how many countries have had a “civil war” and survived??? did any other country intervene when the USA had its own civil war??? let the “joke” in the whitehouse finance the civil war…the “hearings” can be held after the troops are safely home. Anyone connected to the invasion should be tried for war crimes.
thanks for reading
larry g

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By Jeanne, November 14, 2006 at 6:29 am Link to this comment
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I posted above. In the post I questioned the reconstruction efforts and how I saw no progress from the start. Iraqis were asking for reconstruction help. They were begging for it. Still the water and electricity issues were ignored. The governing process was hampered.

Well, here is the proof in my statement once again.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/13/national/main2177031.shtml

Top Marine: No Plan For Post-Saddam Iraq

If you read the article you will you see that even Gen. Mike Hagee was mystified by the lack of concern for post invation planning. Nobody is this incompetent. Nobody. I saw the same thing with Katrina. What the hell was behind all this?

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By danielle, November 13, 2006 at 9:07 pm Link to this comment
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Representative Kucinich, enlightened as ever!  Keeping it simple but very real while people freak out over Nancy Pelosi’s “taking [impeachment] off the table” statement. 

Truly, it is not up to her or any one individual to decide.  It will be done once we take Rep. Kucinich’s and the other congressional committee’s path. 

Glaring evidence will mandate the next steps to accountability and recompense.  The American people have already spoken in no unsure terms.  This will be done.  Stop freaking out!

More importantly, we need to focus on OUR vision for the future, everyone included, no exceptions!! 

Thankfully we have angels like Kucinich, Conyers, etal.

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By Suzanne Bennett, November 13, 2006 at 8:24 pm Link to this comment
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Go Dennis!  You always see through the lies, and you always speak the truth!  I can’t wait to see Bush answer to your investigation.

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By SuGee, November 13, 2006 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment
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As many responders have replied; the 2006 election was about accountability.  The only respectful thing for our congresspersons to do is demand accountability for the war crimes that have occurred.  Then the entire group (and that includes MORE than just George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo, Donald Feith(?), Richard Perle, John Rendon, et al). It is just too sad.

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By sdemetri, November 13, 2006 at 3:30 pm Link to this comment
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Investigations should proceed. Nancy Pelosi could become the first woman president if the mood of the public is such, through thorough investigations showing the depth of corruption that permeates Congress, to support impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Not a far fetched idea, however unlikely.

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By L. Gordon, November 13, 2006 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
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While I don’t subscribe to revenge or “payback” in any form, I will believe with my last breath that few institutions are more important than “justice being served.”

In this light, let us not forget the many unanswered questions of 9-ll such as no response after the North Tower was attacked (or for that matter, the lack of response when THAT plane changed course).

And let us not forget the arrogance demonstrated during Katrina of Bush playing “air guitar” and rushing to photo ops, Cheney relaxing and hunting in Wyoming and Condelezza shopping for shoes “while Rome burned.”

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By rita, November 13, 2006 at 6:18 am Link to this comment
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Having done a little homework, I have acquired a greater respect for Ms. Pelosi—her background and history are impressive.  But I agree with John C (11/10) that it would not be a “waste of time” to pursue this president for his criminal acts against the state and against humanity.  If we can’t demand that our Constitution be upheld, then we need to teach our children well that men like Patrick Henry, Paul Revere and James Madison lived and died in vain.  If we don’t have the self-respect to hold ourselves accountable as a nation for crimes done in our name, then how can we demand respect from any other nation or people?
If we cannot separate right from wrong then it is a waste of time to try to explain ourselves to our children, to demonstrate that actions have consequences and we can just throw self-discipline out the window.
If Ms. Pelosi cannot draw the line in the sand for this president, then pray tell what crimes are we to sanction for future presidents?
It is reprehensible for the new House leadership to wink at the criminal acts of this president and his coterie.
It can only be hoped that a future tribunal will bring the guilty to justice.  If not, then we indeed contemplate a miserable future.  What better way to redeem our nation than to take responsibility and to do it on the world stage so that the world can see we are a worthy people.
There may come a day when the American people have justice for the insults and egregious assaults on their integrity.  If that time comes, then our leaders will also have to stand trial for their withdrawal from and shunning of reality.
The crimes of the administration are too many to enumerate. We expected things from our Democrats.  We expected that they not wink at atrocities, at arrogance, at blatant evil.  We will hold our leaders to account – both Democrat and Republican.  They must oversee.  They must back their words with acts.
And as much as we admire and respect John Murtha, his proposal is only a furtherance of the Bush Doctrine.  He wants to bring the troops home, but he wants to proceed with bombing Iraq into a Cromagnon state.  That is unacceptable.  We are not cavemen; we should not behave as cavemen.
G. Gordon Liddy, Ollie North, Chuck Colson,Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle,GHW Bush, GW Bush, and Thomas Gates are among many members of the same club.  They have been haunting us for quite some time.  How much longer will we tolerate them and their clanking chains?

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By Rebecca English, November 13, 2006 at 1:40 am Link to this comment
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Dennis, I hope you will bring the swines to justice.  Do not be deterred by the so-called Realists’ ‘bipartisanship’ or ‘moderation’ or ‘centrism.’ ... Then I hope you’ll run for President, we’re ready now.

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By Antoinette, November 12, 2006 at 10:31 pm Link to this comment
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From your mouth to God’s ears.

Accountability for the 2800 US dead, 25,000 Maimed, Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths,Gunatanamo,Abu Griab, Shredding of the Geneva OConventions, extra Judicial killings (as per President Bush’s public acknowledgment that “we dont have to worry about the other’s)Shredding of the Constitution, Bill of Rights.

Time to CORRECT THE COURSE that this country has taken.
Time to find a Leader worthy of this Nation.

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By Jeanne, November 12, 2006 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment
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I really want to see the corruption in Iraq investigated. Where is all the money? What happened to the rebuilding? I don’t believe the rebuilding was hampered by security problems because if you look at the news archives in, like say, Democracy Now the real explosive issues didn’t start right away. Yet the rebuilding of infrastructure didn’t happen and it help to fuel the the war.

Another thing I really want to see investigated is the Sibel Edmonds information. What was behind all that? Why all the secrecy? I think it’s just another corruption scandal. But it could be much more than that. I think it needs to be unearthed.

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By Sleeper, November 12, 2006 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment
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I have my doubts because that Congress will truly thoroughly investigate all the problems with the leadup and procecution of this war in Iraq.  My faith in our Congress to turn over enough rocks that may implicate members on both sides of the aisles is less then solid.

I think the people of this nation are feed up with the carefully crafted show that is intended to disorient “We The People”.  I hope that if Congress whitewashes this mess all the key whitewashers get replaced in the next election.

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By John Doraemi, November 12, 2006 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment
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HEY KUCINICH:

How about saying: “If Pelosi refuses to impeach, then she is unfit to be the next speaker of the house?”

How about charges against Rumsfeld (and others) under the US WAR CRIMES ACT?

How about putting in your own ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT?

How about the T word, “treason” for the Bush regime’s shenanigans around 9-11?  For that matter, how about mention of the head of Pakistani intelligence linked to $100,000 funding to Mohamed Atta?

What about the “Department of Homeland Security” DC-9 with 5.5 tons of COCAINE busted in Yucatan Mexico in April of this year?

Where’s the $3 TRILLION DOLLARS UNACCOUNTED FOR BY THE PENTAGON?

Where’s our Bill of Rights?

Enough talk.  It’s time for action.

CRIMES OF THE STATE BLOG

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By Jon B, November 12, 2006 at 11:15 am Link to this comment
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After all these bloodshed, destructions and lies, it’s people’s right to know what exactly happened what accountability works under our rule of laws, if there is any in DC. I know a lot of democrat senators and house of representatives were for war from the beginning to end, but it does not mean that democrats can white wash the entire episode of inhumanity.

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By Johnny, November 12, 2006 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
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This will just turn out to be another circus/whitewash, like the 9/11 hearings and the Katrina mess. No one will get fired or punished criminally as they deserve to be. We’ll hear a lot of speeches but thats all (as usual).

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By Joe R., November 12, 2006 at 6:51 am Link to this comment
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I would like to see hearings, followed by trials, and then prison for those that are guilty.  One of the biggest problems in America is the two tier justice system.  These war profiteers need to be punished for what they have done.  If this bunch gets away with it then there is no hope for the country.

Another big threat to the country is the propaganda machine that talked the middle class into supporting these fascist in the first place.
That has to be dismantled. 

Turning the other cheek is bullshit when it comes to this.  Tom Delay tried to destroy the two party system so Republicans would keep power.  He is a traitor.

Put these corporate bigwigs that pay themselves hundreds of millions of dollars a year while outsourcing jobs and hiring scabs in jail. They are weakining the industrial base of the country for short term gain. Clean house, that is what the American people want. May their lives be filled with lawyers.

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By sivamurti, November 12, 2006 at 6:33 am Link to this comment
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Perhaps a little look to what happened in Lebanon and the way the US permited the indiscriminate bombings to go on for 33 days, killing innocent victims.

http://english.wa3ad.org/index.php?show=news&action=article&id=493

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By Thomas Ward, November 12, 2006 at 12:54 am Link to this comment
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No post…..........only a Thank You to the moderato(s) for posting my comments as they were written.

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By PAUL AMIGO, November 11, 2006 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment
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Bipartinship DOES NOT MEAN “to give in” or “to go along with” these crooks,criminals and thugs. Democracy DEMANDS that the truth and nothing but the ‘whole truth’ be exposed and made known to the citizens, and that is US, who put elected officials like Pelosi in their positions and (don’t forget) are paying their salaries.
I am glad to share the following from .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) <activist@democrats.com>- - - - 
On Election Day, the American people voted overwhelmingly for change. We are thrilled to congratulate Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid and we fully support Pelosi’s 100-hour agenda.
But Speaker Pelosi says impeachment is “off the table.” How can we let George Bush and Dick Cheney get away with the Constitutional crimes they have committed - and continue to commit?
How can there be real change when Bush and Cheney insist on occupying Iraq forever at incalculable cost to human life and national debt?
And how can there be real change when Bush and Cheney insist the “War on Terror” gives them the power to invade Iran whenever they please?
And how can there be real change when Bush and Cheney break the law every day through torture and warrantless wiretaps?
And how can there be real change when Bush and Cheney nullify every law they don’t like with signing statements?
On Saturday, Democrats.com and our progressive allies will launch a nationwide grassroots mobilization for impeachment in Philadelphia near Independence Hall, where the Constitution was signed on September 17, 1787. The mobilization is called ImpeachForChange. Our goals include:
A grassroots petition drive to collect 1 million signatures at ImpeachForChange.org
Form Impeachment Committees in all 435 Congressional Districts to lobby every Member of Congress by:
delivering books & videos on impeachment
collecting petitions and handwritten letters in front of their District Offices
meeting with every Member to discuss the issues that require impeachment
Expand our Citizens Impeachment Commission to add prominent citizens, celebrities and bloggers
12/10 Bush v. Gore Day:
Hold Town Hall Meetings on impeachment around the country with Citizens Impeachment Commission speakers
12/15-17 Bill of Rights Weekend:
Collect petitions and handwritten letters at malls, libraries, post offices, and door-to-door
Sell pocket Constitutions, bumper stickers, books, videos
2007: Pass Impeachment bills in state legislatures
More details:
http://www.democrats.com/impeachforchange-plan
Glen Ford, who for years edited the brilliant and informative BlackCommentator.com, has launched a new publication: The Black Agenda Report. Already the Black Agenda Report is becoming an invaluable resource for progressives and activists. The cover story in the November 8th issue has a working headline of “Impeach! Impeach! Impeach!” We can expect the same insight and experience to be brought to that issue that was brought to so many political issues over the years by the Black Commentator. Get to know this new publication:
http://www.blackagendareport.com

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By Wanda Marie Woodward, November 11, 2006 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment
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The inability for Congress to proceed with a thorough investigation into 9/11 and the Iraq War is a sad, tragic testimony to the complete and utter lack of accountability for wrong actions that this entire nation has become emblematic for.  The external world is merely a mirror of the intrapsychic world.  Do we forget that the very symbol of our Lady of Liberty that she holds up for the entire world to see is a torch of freedom which symbolizes the sacrifices that our forefathers made in order to ensure that Truth and Justice were the fabric of our way of life?  If Americans cannot see that by Congress abrogating its oversight responsibility is a pathetic, egregious insult to the honor, dignity and courageous, selfless acts of those who shed blood for you and me to live freely, then we are truly a lost nation indeed.  The day that America fails to hold its highest officials responsible for what could one day come to be known as the most outrageous, heinous, nefarious and pathological act perpetrated against this country for their own narcissistic, avaricious ends, then the morality of the people who fail to see this dire need for justice are little better than those who turned their heads in silence when 6,000,000 were sent to concentration camps and gas chambers.  The moral fibre of this country is in tatters if we fail in this duty.  And, if that is the case, then we need not worry about terrorists abroad for our own demise is of our pathetic making.

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By Alex, November 11, 2006 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment
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Do hold to account, which should have been the priority of the chambers all along, but don’t let investigations get in the way of needed reform. With all of the revolutionary changes that have happened reversing the damage may appear reactionary, which sounds ironic.

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By Dennis D in LV, November 11, 2006 at 3:39 pm Link to this comment
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TALK is cheap - if ever there was a time to bring back the guillotine its NOW. The REAL war has been on the middle class of this country and for its success Bush & Co. deserve all the credit BIG BUSINESS can, has and will heap on them. It should be so easy to follow the money trail that even the dolts in Congress can do it -the real question is are they afraid of whose door it will stop at. Remember Jack Abramhoff hasn’t even really started to sing yet.

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By Norm Ezzie, November 11, 2006 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment
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From Cleveland.Ohio-and the 10th/District! Remember,they;re all professional politicans that give the appearance they’re in control.Washington and that “agenda” shall continue on~ On another note…here in Cleveland,we’re #1 in poverty and our ranking is listed #7 of being one of the most dangerous cities in America—-can you guess who is my Congressman? And just think,he wanted to be the President! Step back folks,take a deep breath,and understand this one fact-most American’s are standing in some checkout line at a Wal-Mart,happy and dumb-don’t blame them,its all they know-consume,consume and consume.Now for that other half of America…if you want the real news,log on here at> http://www.storminnorm.com  “its all there,every damn bit of it” Norm Ezzie.and thats right,from Cleveland!

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By Eric L. Prentis, November 11, 2006 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment
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Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), I support your hearings on Iraq 100 percent.

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By l.s., November 11, 2006 at 12:16 pm Link to this comment
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if you have a friend with cable or satellite tv and have never cared to sit and watch anything, i urge you to find free speech tv on the dial. in brooklyn it’s channel 9415.
every show informative and educational. one show,
red state road trip was very eye opening in that it showed the average republican to be as dumb or dumber than bush. something we’ve all known maybe, but this was really scary to watch. goes way beyond politics. a reporter driving around red states asking individuals who they voted for and why.


free speech tv, democracy now, truthdig.

p.s. yes john mays i was in the country. why do you ask?

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By jwl11, November 11, 2006 at 11:06 am Link to this comment
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THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE, BUT FIRST IT WILL PISS YOU OFF!!!!  —Joan Baez

INVESTIGATE 9/11…INSIDE JOB! ONLY THEN CAN WE MOVE FORWARD…

THEN APOLOGIZE AND MAKE REPARATIONS TO THE IRAQI AND AFGHANI CITIZENS, OUR MILITAY FAMILIES, 9/11 FIRST RESPONDERS WHO ARE GETTING SICKER AND DYING AND THE REST OF OUR ONE WORLD FOR OUR ARROGANT IGNORANCE

THEN WE CAN BEGIN THE HEALING OF OUR SERIOUS, SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS.

THANK YOU, MR. KUCINICH FOR HAVING THE GUTS TO SEEK COMPASSSIONATE TRUTH AND JUSTICE.

LETS GET THE DEPT. OF PEACE ROLLING AS WELL.

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By Thomas Ward, November 11, 2006 at 11:01 am Link to this comment
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Just investigate, dont draw any conclusions BEFORE the investigation.  Trying to prognosticate what the investigations will reveal will only give ammunition to those who want to SWEEP THE MESS UNDER THE RUG.  Like RUSH LINTPAW said about Clintons affair with M. Lewdinsky   “We only want to find the truth”  Let that be our motto.  We want to find the truth.  Only that!!  If the truth shuld find any criminality—-well we can cross that bridge when we see it.  Stupidity and cultural ignorance was the real cause of this “all”.  Dont play into their hands by doing what they did which was to prosecute before the investigation was complete.  They threw the inspectators out and proceeded based on their eroneuos assumptions.

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By Vito, November 11, 2006 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
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Until we the people STOP allowing them to police themselfs, nothing is going to change. It does not make a difference what party is in office or who has control, this issue of; lies bringing us to war, should have made it on a national ballot.

Both parties have proven through out history, they cannot be trusted.

It’s all about them.
How about making,
lobbying illegal,
making immigration reform mean,
you must speak English, you have to enter the country legally, if you enter illegally, and you have a child here, you child is not a US citizen, your entitled to zero benefits, if you require medical or any other assistance, your employer pays. Enforce illegal hiring, making the fines start at $100K,
you cannot vote until you’re a legal resident for 10 years. Current illegals are deported, no matter how long it takes or what it cost, it’s worth the investment.

Any state that allows voting machines without a paper trail opens the door for a recall of it’s elected officials.

When Religions cross the line, they lose their Tax Exempt status.
Pork is the other white meat, not legal extortion.

Congress and senate go on the Social Security System like the rest of us, not a private retirement fund, and they don’t vote on there raises, we do at election time.

We need to start somewhere.

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By John F. Butterfield, November 11, 2006 at 6:08 am Link to this comment
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The troops will not come home until “the job is done”. Finish the job. Impeach Bush and Cheney!

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By Klare, November 11, 2006 at 1:56 am Link to this comment
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Take your comments, people, and write ALL your congressmen and senators and aim them where they belong and where the “powers that be” can see them, clearly and plainly and…LOUDLY!

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By Joseph Hill, November 10, 2006 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment
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This could be the end of the national nightmare we have suffered through over the past 6 years…IF Dennis Kucinich and other members of Congress are allowed to pursue the truth.  The first order of business HAS to be to get Ms. Pelosi and other accommodationists off the backs of Kucinich, Conyers, Woolsey, and the 70 or 80 other members who are determined to do their Constitutional duty.

It ain’t about payback…it’s about accountability and about insuring that our nation will never again come so close to destruction as it has under the current criminal regime.

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By RoyF, November 10, 2006 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment
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While anger at the Republicans is understandable, it would be a fatal mistake if the Democrats thought the mandate given them by the voters is to seek revenge from the Republicans. Democrats were elected because voters believe that the Republicans screwed up in a number of areas and wanted to give the other guys a chance to fix the many problems. The article by David Moore on this website suggests that corruption, the economy, values and Iraq were the most important reasons, but Iraq was not the most important. In fact, Iraq ranked behind the economy, corruption, and values. These are domestic issues. The Democrats best opportunity to impress voters going into 2008 is to convince them that they care about issues important to the middle and working classes, including the working poor. Their plan has to focus on college tuition tax credits and increasing the amount available for student loans. The plan also has to provide health insurance for all Americans that is not dependent on employers footing the bill, especially small businesses. And the plan must shore up the social security system. Congress needs to pass, very quickly, legislation that slows the trend toward the outsourcing of family wage jobs to other countries by eliminating laws that gives subsidies and tax credits to corporations who move jobs overseas, and by increasing the minimum wage. They also need to act quickly to pass stronger ethics laws for Congress such as accepting gifts and travel from lobbyists, and anything of value for that matter. It won’t end the corruption, which is like trying to take the white off rice, but maybe they can at least get it back to the levels that preceeded the Republicans takeover of Congress. This domestic program should be given the highest priority. If they succed, then the public might be willing to tolerate hearings into how Bush decided to go to war in Iraq, if only for its entertainment value. 

Turning to foreign policy, it’s obvious there are no good options to Iraq that will keep that country from sliding into anarchy, unless the three main groups can agree on allocation of oil revenues and a system of participatory governance that works for all of them. Maybe if each group believes it can prosper they will opt for stability and security. The U.S. also needs to gradually remove the troops by the end of 2007 and abandon the humoungous military base it is building there, which is intended to destabilize other countries in the region, e.g. Iran and Syria.

It also needs to stop proping up repressive regimes such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait so it can control their oil, and allow the citizens in those countries to seek their own solutions, even if it means overthrowing their corrupt leaders. And it needs to stop supporting and paying for Israel’s goal to create a “Greater Israel” by trying to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem, activities that are all in violation of numerous United Nations resolutions.

In foreign policy Democrats need to re-establish relations with its allies, emphasize diplomacy over threats and military power, and stop its hypocritical policy of allowing, even encouraging certain countries to build nuclear weapons while telling other countries they cannot, and while at the same time building up its own nuclear arsenal.

But first, it’s all about focusing on domestic policies.

RF

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By Gonnuts, November 10, 2006 at 9:08 pm Link to this comment
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No 9/11 - no Iraq.

It all starts with 9/11. And it’s fairly simple to prove that the “official” explanation of 9/11 is complete bull.

How does one explain WTC building #7? How does a Boeing Jetliner fit into a 16 foot hole?

Yeah ... it’s all 9/11.

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By Tony Litwinko, November 10, 2006 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment
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Ref: Comment #37537 by Paul Amigo on 11/10 at 1:37 pm regarding what ever happened to Able Danger: unfortunately, one of the only Republicans in the House who had latched on to that matter, Kurt Weldon, was one of the Republicans who lost. Ironique, n’est-ce pas?

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By stephen, November 10, 2006 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment
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We absolutely need hearings, and the process of impeaching Mr. Bush needs to begin as soon as possible. We must say to future political hopefuls that they CANNOT subvert the Constitution and expect to get away with it.

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By guest938, November 10, 2006 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment
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Impeach? No!

Investigate? You damn right we investigate.

Prosecute? HELL YES! I want these guys behind bars, all of them.

So let’s put the screws to the ex-committee chairmen and get to the bottom of this crap so we can fix it, while still moving forward with a progressive agenda.

Let’s build a case against the bastards, week by week, month by month, we build the case and at the same time we show the world we are still an open society and that the terrorists haven’t won. Let’s get ready to have the Sheriff at the bastard’s doors the week after inauguration with warrants.

But let’s not spend the next two years doing nothing but impeachment.

Let’s not rush into things stupidly like we did in Iraq.

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By rushmc, November 10, 2006 at 5:38 pm Link to this comment
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Finally, ONE Democrat saying SOMETHING to indicate that we may have actually upgraded the Congress a little.  With all the weak, conciliatory, business-as-usual mutterings coming from Pelosi and Dean and the like in the past couple of days, I was beginning to wonder why we’d bothered to go to the polls.

It is all about accountability.  If we don’t uphold the law, then the law becomes a joke—and we’ve had a painful lesson in what happens when people who consider the law a joke get into power.  Investigate, fire, impeach, try, convict.  Restore faith in our system, or nothing else matters.

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By Jonathan Katz, November 10, 2006 at 5:32 pm Link to this comment
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I think we should do a few things to promote a healthier democracy:

1. Create an auditable, credible voting system.

2. Institute Whistleblower protection laws.

3. Re-open investigation on information from whistleblowers such as:
Sibel Edmonds:
http://www.justacitizen.com/

4. I think we should know more about the Cheney Energy commission:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/printer_iraqi-oil-maps.shtml

5. I think we need to do more to keep an eye on our Military-Industrial complex.

6. I think we need to encourage more healthy competition in the market for home and business internet access, where we are lagging other countries.

thank you!

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By john mays, November 10, 2006 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment
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l.s.  on 11/09 at 11:14 pm wrote:
>>no one thinks the democrats are really any better than republicans.

L.S. Were you out of the country this week?

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By Margaret Currey, November 10, 2006 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment
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I think that if Bush and some of his advisors had a family member in Iraq, would the rush to go to war begin so quickly, and is going to war just Jr.‘s way of finishing his Daddy’s war?

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By John C, November 10, 2006 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment
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I sent the following message to Nancy Pelosi:

I am appalled to hear that you are “ruling out” impeachment of these two scoundrels (Bush and Cheney) who have committed many serious, blatant, and obvious impeachable offenses. How dare you ignore your sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, for political purposes (which can be your only reason). Your comment about it being a “waste of time” is an outrage. Since when is enforcing the Constitutional right of the American people to remove a criminal president and vice-president a waste of time—and who are you to take it upon yourself to make that decision. You are there to carry out the will of the people - not your own will.

During the campaign, the Repugs were suggesting to voters that making you the Speaker of the House would be a disaster.

I can now see why - but for a totally different reason.

I hope that Rep.John Conyers will defy you and present Articles of Impeachment promptly, as is his duty, and as he had promised. And I hope that you change your mind fast.

Impeachment, for just cause, is a constitutional duty - not a political decision. In this case, Bush’s (and Cheney’s) “high crimes” have killed 3000 American soldiers, wounded more than 20,000 (half of them with horrific injuries), and have killed more innocent Iraqis than Saddam.

I’m sure that Dennis Kusinich uderstands this well, despite his too cautious words to Robert Scheer.

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By Chuck, November 10, 2006 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment
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We know who is accountable—Bush, Cheney and Rumsfelt—why are we beating around the “bush”
Bush needs to be inmpeached (held accountable) along with Cheney (who tutered Bush on the war for oil & Helaburton profitability).
Cheney would NOT make a good President! Let’s see, who would be next?

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By Paul Amigo, November 10, 2006 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment
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Remember how Rep John Conyers was send to the ‘House’ BASEMENT by the republican BULLIES,  to hold ‘hearings’ on the “Downing Street Memo” [DSM] scandal ? He got NOWHERE with it!
How ironic, that he is going to be the committee chairman in charge of these kind of investigations and I am sure he is not going to “forget”  his humiliating experience in the name of ‘bipartinship’ !
And by the way, whatever happened to the “ABLE DANGER” investigation ?
I am sure, just exposing all the sordid details of these and other numerous scandals, indulged in by these crooks and liars ( they will even put Nixon to shame !) will be enough to get the Dems re-elected in ‘08 !!
Now, let the ‘HEARINGS’  BEGIN !!!!

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By Gary Verver, November 10, 2006 at 1:51 pm Link to this comment
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Nancy told George that impeachment is not on the table.  But what if impeachment IS the table?
Keep hope alive.

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By Lee Driver, November 10, 2006 at 1:46 pm Link to this comment
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The unpleasant fact here is that we’re responsible for the destruction of a lot of infrastructure and the deaths of a lot of people. In our own legal terms, if our deeds were looked at objectively, we’re liable. There is no court with any teeth to say this, but it is so. And if we were to cop to it, which no lawyer would reccommend, it is reasonable to expect that the Iraqi’s would make us pay forever if they could. Additionally problematic is that even if we could come to some agreement about reparations with the current Iraqi government, there’s no reason to believe the Iraqi populace, with all it’s factions would go along. So how do we get out of this responsibly? How do we do the right thing?

One, we have to stop killing people. Two, we have to publically hold to account our own people who caused this mess. Three, we need to, without guns, fix or help them fix what we broke.

There is currently no one to talk to in Iraq who represents all the Iraqi people. And if there were, they quite frankly, have no reason to trust us. Our usual tools of coercion, covert actions, sanctions, threats and use of force are all worthless at this point. That game is up, whether in the Middle East, Latin America or any where else. If we don’t know this now, we will. We need a new way of acting.

So do they.

Someone has to start. We did the Iraqi people wrong. We owe them. We need to own up, and offer to make amends. It’s the responsible thing to do. It might not work. Then again, the same goodness that’s in all of us, and in them too,  might just like to stretch its muscles for a bit. No guarantees. It’s worth a try.

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By Mary, November 10, 2006 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment
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Democrats were voted in, because we the people expect to get some results!! We need an end to this illegal and immoral war and to BRING OUR TROOPS home! Why should more die because of lies!They are our heroes-God bless them all! As far as terrorism goes, like drugs , we will never get rid of them!! This war could go on with no end in sight!!! Actually I don’t believe this war was about terrorism—its all about OIL!!

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By B, November 10, 2006 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment
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Investigations are ENTIRELY needed. Not toothless ones either. Those responsible, all of them, must be held accountable.

But they must not be limited in scope to the Iraq War. For one, 9/11 led to the Iraq war and we still know nothing of what went on there. The simplistic Osama Bin Laden excuse is believed only by those who believed Bush in the first place.

The president himself stood in the way of an investigation. Does this not scream out to anyone else?

It must not stop there either. America is shaken. Since 2000 large groups of the population have lost all faith in their governmental systems. From the election of that year on election shenanigans have run rampant and unpunished. These are attacks to THE very foundation of Democracy itself.

More so, the facade of any people power in government has fallen. Unless you are one of the people with power (a mere % of the American population).

Even worse, the facade of government power (to stop these people from taking over) has been destroyed. The DoJ has become more of a joke than ever. The FEC has gone to FECes. The SEC was smashed in WTC 7 on 9/11 and is still a wreak. The USDA has become so ineffective that national food contaminations have become repeated affairs. The DEA , well they are still arresting drug offenders… at least our dysfunctional policy is running… but not winning.

But, ALL of these needs of the nation must come second to the needs of our men and women in uniform. We MUST succeed in removing ourselves from our “Bush Wars”. All of them…not just the two big ones. We must identify our inabilities and overcome them to bring ourselves and the afflicted nations to a point where we can do so.

Cutting and running isn’t an option in my mind. This was reason #1 for my opposition to the war before it happened. Anyone with open eyes could see what we were getting into. The sunni/shiite/kurd/jewish combination was never going to allow us to waltz in smack around Saddam and waltz back out. With all the planning of a drunken bar hopping binge we jumped in…with both feet (despite the fact one foot was already in Afganistan).

Therefore, our first “investigation” MUST be how we can begin to bring these wars to an acceptable end. This will be no small task. Are we up to it as a nation? Are the Dems. up to it as a party?


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By D Tom, November 10, 2006 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment
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I agree with Jackie. In order to fully investigate the crimes of this Iraqi conflict we must investigate impartially and courageously the nature of false flag terrorism so often used to foment conflict and distract from real tensions.

The 911 crime was most thoroughly whitewashed by both sides of congress and by all “proper” dichotomies. There is no scarcity of evidence, only reluctance to delve into what that evidence may suggest. Our country and many others have long histories of perpetrating aggresion when things do not follow the interests of elitest/ corporate proclivites. Many well researched and authoritative descriptions are available for confirmation of these facts yet few have the courage to go beyond the safety net of national pride. Until we are willing this two party seesaw will continue to superficially and ceremoniously hand slap to offer only an appearance of accountability.

We have a long and difficult road ahead of us believing that our duly elect will perform as agents of true reformation. It is not in their interests to expose the nature of Machiavellianism let alone how deeply embeded status quo enforcement mechanisms are in place to maintain compliance within the ranks.

Homosexual, pedophilic, and sex for hire power gropings run rampant throughout all heads of state circles. What has been exposed is just the tip of an iceberg. Witness the Franklin Coverup (John DeCamp), the homosexual expose by the Washington Times during Bush the elder’s tenure (1989) and Gannongate. On a broader scale notice the tendancies of those most rhetorically aghast at gay sexual orientation frequently later exposed at having “protesteth too much” (Foley, Haggard, etc.).

Emotional finger pointing has always been an effective tool at discharging suspicion with the unwary. It’s time we examined this fire and brimstone approach at enforcing morality. Such vitriol frequently accompanies enormous subterfuge.

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By M. Stanis, November 10, 2006 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment
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It’s useful, I think, at times like this, to review the origins of the problems at hand. The origin of our current problem (aka the President) was the failure to bring Richard Nixon to justice. Politicians of the time wrung their hands after his exit and stated that the “system works”, patting themselves on the back for a job well done. Nothing could be further from the truth. The system failed completely in Nixon’s regard. He was a criminal of the highest order, and he was allowed to walk away without accountability. And this was the starting point for the Reagan Presidency…the full and complete knowledge that the President can do anything he desires, and at worst he might have to leave office and retire…but will NEVER EVER be answerable to the rule of law. And history shows that Reagan and HW Bush, both criminals, walked away after committing crime after crime against the Constitution that should have seen them behind bars at the very least.

When Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon, allowing that used car salesman to walk away, we went through the glass darkly and have not found our way back since. The only way out of this dark world is to finally, and dispassionately, make this (and any other) President (and his administration, and his enablers of all stripes) answerable to the rule of law. This is the only way to save this country from despotic rule in the future. The President should not be deified, or considered to be anything more than a public servant, who MUST recognize law as laid out by the Constitution. If not, that old document may as well be shredded, cause it is of no use with a President who is allowed to ignore it, and violate it’s laws at will.

This President has been a tireless champion of the destruction of the Constitution (that, if you’ve forgotten, he swore to protect and defend). He has never stopped working toward a despotic future, and has proven time and time again that he will not stop unless he is stopped, by the very laws that he has worked so diligently to destroy. Can he be stopped? Not if people think that impeachment is off the table. Not if people think he is actually capable of working from consensus (which he is not). He’s willing to work with the Democrats, as long as they do exactly what he says…if they wander away from his focus, he’ll starting slicing and dicing again, just as he did during the lead up to the mid-term election—a Democratic win is a win for the terrorists. Things will be cordial until they don’t do exactly what he says, then they’ll get ugly again, real quickly. Who knows, if the Democrats don’t “work with” the President, perhaps he’ll declare them all unlawful enemy combatants, and remove them all to Guantanimo for retreading.

When I read that impeachment is off the table, on one hand I think, ok, this President has long since impeached himself, so there’s no need. However, the rule of law as it stands today states that before he can be tried, he must be impeached, and therefore impeachment is job number one now, if this country is to ever return to a Constitutional Democracy. We now have an oligarchical dictatorship, run by a psychopath who was put in power through nefarious means by shady power brokers with an agenda to bring the world into a permanent state of war. Pure war profiteering if truth be known.

Ok…enough for now. We’ll see how the Democrats do in the real world of vicious and back-stabbing Republican politics.

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By Scott, November 10, 2006 at 10:27 am Link to this comment
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Truth and reconciliation? Brave words.

Just how far down the rabbit hole will America go? I think it goes much deeper than the lies underlying Iraq and it’s taken decades to dig.

I’m betting it won’t take long until America starts begging for the blue pill.

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By Anchorite, November 10, 2006 at 9:45 am Link to this comment
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The main thing is to change policy.

The lies have been known for a long time.

Administering damage to Mr. Rumsfeld is a waste of time. 

Plus, I am sure he often angsted about the unpleasant consequences of his decisions.  However, he was likely propelled by the idea “whatever it takes to succeed in my duty”.

This core motivation is still the pervasive attitude in power circles I am sure.

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By Kucinich fan, November 10, 2006 at 8:40 am Link to this comment
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I sure hope he follows the facts where they lead. Bush and company need to be brought to justice.

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By Edward Groh, November 10, 2006 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
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Rep. Kucinch’s comments are encouraging, however when Nancy Pelosi says that impechment is off the table I wonder how serious the new majority is about accountablity. Why would they seriously investigate if they are to find themselves in a quandry when facts are uncovered that would demand that articles of impeachment be filed? The other concern I have is if there is an independant investigation will it be another benign and useless excercise presided over by the likes of Lee Hamilton like Iran-Contra or the 911 Commission? Are the Democrats going to walk on eggshells through 2008 so as not to hurt their chances for the White House? Mr. Kucinich has to convince me that he has the party in his camp. His cause may be already doomed by professional politicians.

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By anonymous, November 10, 2006 at 7:42 am Link to this comment
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Start by investigating war profiteering & let it naturally lead to the rest.  Gangsters are always about the money.

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By Sharon Ash, November 10, 2006 at 7:34 am Link to this comment
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We need a full, complete, and thorough accounting as to how we were led into this abyss called the Iraq War.  Americans must vow never again will our children be sent into the killing fields for any reason other than in defense of our country and only after every attempt at a peaceful resolution has been exhausted. We need all the facts about the Iraq War laid out now, not later,  and no matter how painful the truth might be, we must face it as a nation.  I have lived through the Vietnam war, based on lies, and now the Iraq War based on lies.  Both wars caused the soul of our nation to bleed and have weakened the moral fiber of our nation.  The Vietnam lie was kept hidden for 40 years.  We must begin immediately, to bring to light the truth on the Iraq War so we can begin to heal our nation.

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By Carl Baydala, November 10, 2006 at 5:11 am Link to this comment
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The war is wrong and every thinking person knows it is wrong. I agree, it is difficult to get out because the mess is so severe.  But, I do not think one should deviate or become influenced by the interests that want to pursue the war for economic gain.  Just find a way to get out that makes sense and that might involve other nations in the world. Now is the time to reach out to other nations for their input into this unnecessary trajedy.

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By Jackie T. Gabel, November 10, 2006 at 1:08 am Link to this comment
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RE: “How did we get into Iraq? You cannot talk about an exit plan unless you know how you got in. And once people understand very clearly how we got in, then it becomes more imperative to get out”

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Mr. Kucinich: Make sure your colleagues know: this is not “payback.” At this point Republican pedophilia is but a pathetically criminal distraction—what’s at stake is no “blue dress” affair. What’s at stake are crimes against humanity and very possibly WWIII. The sadists and Strange Loves must be stopped!

Let’s hope they don’t pull another spectacle before you get to the bottom of the big one—press for 911Truth and break their most manipulatively cynical weapon: false flag terror; break it before their faces—investigate, indict, prosecute and execute!

Show no quartet. At the first sign of weakness they will turn and fall upon you with daggers drawn. Serve them nothing less than the full measure of the law!

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By Kat, November 10, 2006 at 1:08 am Link to this comment
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Rep. Kucinich, I like what you are saying. Lead the way. Counting on you (and rest of Dems to stand up for us.) Every American who is sick of the relentless promotion of fear, hate and lies, not to mention war-profiteering, deserves accountabilty. We’ve worked hard to change our government. We don’t want all of the horrible things that have been done in our name swept aside. We want you to find out who is responsible for what. And then, to hold them accountable to the highest extent of the law. If that includes torture and being jailed indefinatly without legal recourse, this time, I wouldn’t be opposed. I wonder if Bush, Chaney and gang would appreciate the irony. For, if Karma were perfect, they would all experience exactly what they espouse.

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By l.s., November 10, 2006 at 12:14 am Link to this comment
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dear Rep. Kucinich.
America Needs Iraq War Hearings

thats great you wanna bring accountability and all.
start with 9/11.

remember, its your party that lets bush do whatever he wants.
no one thinks the democrats are really any better than republicans.
dont get too excited.

anyways start at the beginning! investigate 9/11 first!

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By Mark Kienan, November 10, 2006 at 12:07 am Link to this comment
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Thank you Dennis Kucinich! Yes, we demand accountability. We demand that our congressional leaders hold hearings to expose the lies that lead to 3000 american soldiers deaths, tens of thousands of american soldiers’ injures, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths. We don’t care how rich and powerful these people are. We demand that our newly elected congress protect our constitution, the rule of law, and hold these people accountable for their lies.

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By greenback, November 9, 2006 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment
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Pelosi and Bush are Burying the Hatchet”?http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061…n_go_pr_wh/ bush??What does she mean she’s not going to impeach Bush? She and the creep are “settling their differences,” what? Who in the world does she think she is? First off, she’s not even chosen yet to be the Speaker of the House. Sorry, Nancy, but there’s actually a process and competition for the position. As well, we the people have not spoken on the matter yet; though CNN and FOX and the others have weighed their desire for her quite heavily. The Democrats have been put in power on a mandate of the people to investigate the actions of this Administration which has steered the nation nearly off a cliff, and she’s to set the process of restoring America’s standing in the world and our quality of life, security, and health at home. Pelosi is there because we the people want our Constitution and Bill of Rights restored as of 4pm, friday afternoon, January 5th, 2007. We the people put the Democratsi in charge of the House because we want to get to the bottom of the massive number of deaths in the Gulf Coast which is directly connected to the Administration’s handling of the matter. Katrina was not just a glass of spilled milk, it was negligence to the worst degree demands independent investigation. We the people put the Democrats in power because we no longer want to be dependent on foreign, filthy and archaic Gas & Oil for our energy needs, and we are not going to be happy with simply raising the standard automotive mpg from 21mpg to 25mpg (1925 Ford Model T got 25 mpg). We want alternative energies now, not because we are dreamers, we want it because it is cheap, clean and fucking available. We the people put the Democrats in charge in charge to investigate why the Administration scared the bejeezus out of all of us with the notion that Sadam was minutes away from nuking Disneyland and the rest of America, when in fact we all now know that it was a bold face and well planned out lie. More than that, we now know that the small group in the Administration have had plans for invading Iraq since at least 1999 when they pressed Bill Clinton with the idea of Iraq invasion and US hegemony of the Middle East. We know about the Bush White House meetings with Oil executives and their 2000 pre-invasion plans for private profit pipelines throughout the region. We the people did not put Nancy Pelosi where she is today so that both she and Bush can feel comfortable together at dinner parties. We the people want transparency in government and we want results. We the people put Democrats in charge of the Congress so that we can IMPEACH BUSH!

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By Jon B, November 9, 2006 at 11:15 pm Link to this comment
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Yes, those accountable for the war on false pretense ought not and should not be left unpunished. They are the ones who destroyed this nation’s credibility, hundreds of thousands of lives, worldwide condemnation of aggression, the erosion of our constition and civil liberty, the violatiojn of human rights in Abu Ghraid and Guantanamo…..No one is above the law, rich and powerful, neocon and right wing extremists included.

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By G Daley, November 9, 2006 at 10:43 pm Link to this comment
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Three points, Dennis.

First, please regard this drive as a prelude toward restoring Executive power to constitutionally submissive limits, in the hope of precluding future, discretionary wars.

Second, I suggest that you explore 4GW (Fourth Generation Warfare) for gaining perspective on your work in committee if this concept is unknown to you.

Lastly, I hope that at some point you will consider the Presidency again.

God bless you, Sir.

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By Sean Maurice Hunt, November 9, 2006 at 10:19 pm Link to this comment
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I think we already know what caused the Iraq war…Anyone hear of the “Millitary Industrial Complex” or how about “New American Century” do we really need to hold hearings wasting our countrys time and money? Powerful people making lots of money while creating chaos and destruction for poor brown people all around the globe…

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