as a former fetus i am basically against abortion.  as a mother of eight i understand the need for choice.  in my long experience with life i have seen the results of unwanted pregnancies and unwanted babies.  its to bad that the economics of being a woman prevents us from really having a choice.  we just can’nt have a baby without a man around, can we?

That’s all very well, Mike, but there are effective contraceptives now that weren’t as widely available when Roe v. Wade was decided.  If there’s economic or fatigue factors, then the women affected by them should be doing something proactive about it.  Rape and incest are still very good reasons for having access to abortion, because a woman isn’t able to plan for those unfortunate events.  Incest is the primary reason that California Ballot Proposition 85 should be defeated, since parental notification is impossible in most of those cases.  That being said, the current Supreme Court composition makes it very likely that Roe v. Wade will be further curtailed, if not entirely thrown out.  That will leave things up to the states, which will most likely divide on Red State/Blue State lines on the issue:  legal in the Blue States; illegal in the Red States.  So a lot a women who either forget to take the pill, or who are just totally irresponsible, will be trekking to the Blue States.

To me, the whole thing is simple.  Many women, pregnant, recognize that their lives and those of their loved ones will become immeasurably more difficult by having a baby.  Maybe there are too many babies in the family and the woman’s exhausted.  Maybe there’s not enough—and never will be enough—money to raise the child, considering all the obligations that are had with other already born children.  Or maybe the mother’s health is too fragile.

The mother has so many commitments in life to others.  The fetus does not.

Ergo, the mother’s decision must prevail.

I recognize that there are those who will give up or abort the fetus out of immaturity, that it would just be too much of a bother, etc. 

But their attitudes shouldn’t imprison the-very-many more who will have genuine, heart-breaking difficulties.

When the “gay gene” is definitively isolated and identifiable in the unborn, the Red State mamas with the foetuses bearing this “defect” will be charging across borders to Blue States, where abortion will still be legal after Roe v. Wade is overturned, to rid themselves of the vile unborn creatures they are harboring in their wombs.  Then you’ll see a campaign led by the husbands of those women for a Constitutional Amendment ensuring choice.  I can only wonder whether those now campaigning for unfettered choice will have second thoughts?

Margaret, Margaret, Margaret, SHE ASKED FOR IT…ACCORDING TO PEOPLE LIKE OUR BIOCHEMZ FRIEND HERE SOME OF WHOM ARE JUDGES WHO MAKE RULINGS LIKE THE ONE I READ ABOUT MADE IN NEW ENGLAND….MAN ON TRIAL FOR HAVING SEX WITH 7 YEAR OLD CHILD…JUDGE ALLOWS THAT THE CHILD CLIMBING INTO BED WITH THIS MAN WAS ASKING FOR IT…....WHERE DO WE GET PEOPLE LIKE THAT….WHO RAISES THEM.

I wonder if anyone has heard the phrase “date rape"and the upshot of that is if the girl does get pregnant the guy usually gets away with it.  You are the one whowent out on the date so somethings alwaysfall back to the woman but the men are the ones who push the sex thing and then cop out when they are told their actions resulted in a baby.

M. C. from vancouver Washington

Biochemzz
Did you even READ this story????

The pregnant woman did NOT want an abortion.  Her parents were trying to FORCE it on her.

Pro-Choice, means pro CHOICE!  The choice to have, or not have a pregnancy continue. It is JUST as much a woman’s right to choose to have her baby as it is to choose NOT to have it. Hers alone.

But you, like so many of the religious right figger if ya have round heels and get knocked up, well that’s YOUR PUNISHMENT and you deserve it!

Oh, really?  Do you have any idea how vile that is?  Do you know anyone whose parents didn’t want him or her and how awful their life is?  To have parents who see you as a burden, a punishment, an albatross around their necks?  Can there be anything crueler than causing a child such pain just because they screwed up and picked the wrong parents?

What trully sick and warped view of parenthood you have!  I have kids, and like most NORMAL people, I love them, adore them and wouldn’t be without them.  NORMAL people have kids because they want them and love them, and if they don’t want them, and can’t love them, they don’t have them!

Being a mom or a dad is for people who want it—it shouldn’t be a lifelong punishment for having sex.  Having a small child call me “Da-Da” and curl up in my arms, hugging me, is one of the great joys of my life.  I can barely imagine how awful it would be for both of us (the little one and me) if I didn’t love it.  Yet that’s what you say is how it should be.

I’ll bet you think AIDS victims deserve their disease, too.

Thanks to science a woman today not only has the right to choose but can choose.  Wonder why woman’s liberation runs into such fierce resistance.  Shouldn’t women be the most respected of us all?  That’s the way it is in Central Africa among the few remaining Pygmy tribes who still live as their ancesters did; going way, way back.  Theirs is a civilization based upon making do with what a tropical forest has to offer.  Turns out that in the Pygmy culture, those who are considered to be the wisest of the wise are the Priestesses.  Amazing how everyone gets along, too.  Something about male domination that always seems to mess things up.  As for whether or not this one’s to be a keeper?  Hands-off,  this is for the woman to decide.

FRANK, TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, PLEASE.

What exactly, do you mean by “forced pregnancy”?  Unless the woman was a victim of rape or incest, how can consensually climbing into bed with someone and having sex be considered forced?  If a woman chooses to have intercourse, and happens to get pregnant, she has already made a choice and must then accept the possible outcomes, one of which may be pregnancy.  You shouldn’t get another choice.  Life doesn’t come with a reset button when things don’t go exactly how we plan.  You’ve already made your choice and must live with the consequences.

Mariam, how hard is it to type without using CAPS LOCK?

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN LAWS PASSED TO DO IT TO THEM WITHOUT REMEMBERING THAT THIS SAME LAW CAN DO IT TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY. HOW HARD IS IT TO REASON OUT THAT IF WE TURN OVER CONTROL OF OUR BODIES AND THEIR FUNCTION TO A GOVERNMENT, THEN THIS CONTROL CAN BE USED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS…..ON BOTH SEXES.
HOW MANY STEPS FROM LEGALIZING TORTURE IS THROWING DISSENTERS FROM AIRPLANES…....ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC.

Yup, fits right in with torture, lies, preemptive strikes, and the general tone and tenor of this administration.