i’m amazed that the majority of american are not demanding bush’s resignation[or that he be tried as a war criminal]. the parallels between his administration and hitler’s are so obvious.

Our government is a HYPOCRACY!

Since 1947, when Eisenhower feared the country would slip into a depression worse than the 30’s, decided to maintain a standing Army with all it’s war machine industrial funding.  Jobs for Americans, good, maintaining a war machine - BAD.  Now, reward all the returning veterans with MILLIONS of new houses, cheap VA funding, and move everyone OUT of the cities into “country living” aka suburbs.  Biggest benefit?  Corporations supplying the massive military machine continue with war-time profits in peacetime.

Result?  Enslave the majority of the post-war population in isolated, non-social communities, requiring larger and longer commutes, plus more support to provide needed goods and services from core cities.  MAKE BIG OIL DOMINANT.

Factor in the MASSIVE support structure to build the superhighways necessary to move these people and support vehicles around.  TONS of oil to pave roads.  TONS of oil to supply the necessary trucks.  Oh, don’t overlook the intentional destruction of tens of thousands of commuter rail cars bought up by major auto companies to ensure commuters would need cars… TRUE.

Now, consider that the USA is the ONLY country to date (arguably) that have used nuclear weapons aggressively against another nation.  aka Nagasaki and Hiroshima.  WE DELIBERATELY REFUSED TO ACCEPT SURRENDER FROM JAPAN (for many months) in order to complete our sinister plan - A FULL SCALE TEST OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON A PRISTINE POPULATED CITY.  Cities which were deliberatly NOT BOMBED so to be perfect test subjects.

Knowing that we FIREBOMBED about 90% of the entire Japanese nation (is this a REASONABLE and humane response to the attack of Pearl Harbor which killed only about 3,000??).  We almost wiped them off the face of the earth!

At the time, the development of the first 3 nuclear bombs was the largest scientific undertaking in the history of mankind.  The most destructive force ever created by man, the biggest scientific achievement… hmmm.  Did you know at the time we only had TEN POUNDS of enriched uranium?  It was so.....valuable.  More effort than extracting the genome of the entire planet, then just blowing it up.

But this wasn’t good enough for us endeavorous Americans.  We went right ahead and developed the HYDROGEN BOMB, 1,000 TIMES MORE POWERFULL.  The largest was almost EIGHTY MEGATONS, geezus Louise, how many people can we (do we NEED to) vaporize in one shot??? (Do you know all the scientists were in dismay over the first bomb test, thinking it might vaporize the planet, or destroy the atmosphere, or crack earth in half! But we managed to do it ANYWAY, damn the torpedoes).

FAST-FORWARD:  after 50 years of nuclear proliferation, how can we improve?  We develop DU (depleated uranium).  We pack all our atomic waste into artillery shells, bullets and bombs and scatter them across an entire country, irradiating the place like Christmas.  We make it uninhabitable, but allow kids and infantryman to roam around freely to pick it up and play with it, and worse yet, breath it and eat it as it’s been particulated in the air and water for EVERYONE to ingest every day, without warning.  Then we deny it officially, hell, it can’t be *ANOTHER* agent orange scandal, really??

Oh, and all those tens of thousands of nuclear warheads we built, that we hollored and screamed about the Soviet Union from owning, well, Reagan bankrupted those fools and forced them to sell us those 20,000 warheads.  YES - TRUE, we bought all 5,000 TONS of them.  Now, we are building thousands of “discriminate and selective” tactical 1-2megaton battlefield weapons to replace the “bunker busters” that can’t penetrate far enough - aka “just for IRAQ and IRAN”.  Oh, we’ll give them to ISRAEL because they’re the 2nd largest nuclear power, our 3rd arm of justice, and hope they’ll blow the crap outta Palestine FOR US.

So, in summary, we ONLY spend $750 BILLION DOLLARS on defense, 25% of our nation budget, 14 TIMES the combined budgets of the 14 next biggest military budgets.  Does this sound like DEFENSE or OFFENSE?  Let us not ignore the PUBLISHED “Carter Doctrine” or the more recent “National Defense Policy” which clearly outline our stated goal of global domination, even if it means pre-emptive military strikes.  OIL IS OUR GOAL and we will not be deterred.  Since US oil production PEAKED in 1971, and GLOBAL production is or has just NOW peaked, it will NEVER have any higher volume, it will ALWAYS decline and thus the price will always continue to increase.  Speculation (aka STOCK MARKET) will drive the price thru the roof as usual.  The construction of 17 major military bases in the middle east, literally surrounding the 65% of the world’s remaining oil reserves, demonstrates our intent, where we had NO BASES in 1980.

We only have 3.5 MILLION troops in the military, gee, why so few.  And all these couldn’t deter 9/11?? Fuckin’ hell.

Oh, let us not overlook the FACT that for the past several YEARS the military has been instigating a secret BACK DOOR DRAFT.  Yes, involuntary, those who have served less than 8 years total active duty are OBLIGATED to RECALL, and the military, with it’s lack of volunteers, and unable to mobilize enough National Guard and Reserve, have done it for the first time in history, recalled the INACTIVE RESERVE forces, over 40,000 in all, ruining their lives completely.  There is a draft, you just don’t know it.

Thanks, George, after you chickened out and didn’t complete even one full year of reserve drills after receiving flight training - fuckin’ asshole.

Let’s not even mention the CIA and all the covert actions to install US corporations in power - my personal favorite - PANAMA!  “operation Restore Democracy” - right, they NEVER FREAKIN’ HAD A DEMOCRACY you pinheads…

Keep on killin’ America, until we own the world.

Nuff’ said.

I can’t believe I forgot a 5th area ripe for reform - voting procedures. I agree with Robert Cringely, the PBS computer technology columnist, that we would be a lot better off with a Canada-style manual balloting system.

Isn’t that comfortable, michael.. Just blame it on the Jews. Because “America” is really benevolent; if it wasn’t for those Jews.. Yeah, as the respectable site you linked to says, everything that’s wrong with this world is the Jews’ fault. Even Natalee Holloway’s death! Who woulda thunk it! I’ve seen sites like that blame Jews(or another group of boogeymen, the Masons) for Dunblane, Columbine, the tsunami, etc; in short, all atrocities, on any scale, is perpetrated by Jews, according to such yahoos.

Nevermind the fact that AIPAC is dominated by Christians. Nevermind the fact that so-called Christian Zionism is a religious ideology of lunatics who see the Jewish aliya as nothing more than a piece in the puzzle of the return of the Messiah. Nevermind the fact that U.S polices in the Middle East is harmful to Israel. Nevermind the fact that Israel is conveniently positioned for access to certain lucrative natural resources. Nevermind the fact that between those who see Israel as a strategic piece in access to those resources and those who regard it as a part of a prophecy contrary to that of Judaism, Jewish Zionists have very little power over U.S. foreign policy. But then again, you don’t seem to be too occupied with the reality of matters. Your delusion shines brightly in the notion that you’d put yourself in peril by “confronting AIPAC”. Wake up, you’re an irrelevant nobody.

http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/dean/20020913.html

EXCERPT:

“the true backers of the Seventeenth Amendment were special interests, which had had great difficultly influencing the system when state legislatures controlled the Senate. (Recall that it had been set up by the Framers precisely to thwart them.) They hoped direct elections would increase their control, since they would let them appeal directly to the electorate, as well as provide their essential political fuel - money.”

THE SEVENTEENTH AMENDMENT: SHOULD IT BE REPEALED?

Why The Direct Election Of Senators May Have Been A Serious Mistake, And One That Helps Explain The Supreme Court’s States’ Rights Views

By JOHN W. DEAN
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Friday, Sep. 13, 2002

Federalism - the allocation and balancing of power between state and federal government - has emerged as a central concern of the Supreme Court under Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Slowly, but steadily, the Rehnquist Court has been cutting back federal powers, and protecting state’s rights.

Many have wondered what the Court is doing. Why are the Court’s five conservatives - the Chief Justice himself, along with Associate Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, and Clarence Thomas - creating this new jurisprudence of federalism?

The Amendment calls for direct election of U.S. Senators. It’s a change that has in fact proved anything but democratic. And it is a change whose aftermath may haunt the Twenty-first Century.

Concerns About Federalism, Especially Post-September 11

Divisions of power are rooted in our Constitution. Experience had taught the Framers the dangers of concentrations of ruling authority, resulting in their ingenious template of checks and balances, with divisions and distributions of power.

Ultimate power in a democracy resides with the people. We are not a pure democracy, however, but rather a confederated republic (one that features, as well, county and local political subdivisions).

Thus, while there is national sovereignty, there is also state sovereignty. Power has been so divided and spread for one reason: to provide for and protect the highest sovereignty - that of each individual citizen.

Only fools reject the wisdom of this founding principle of defusing power. Yet from the outset there has been debate regarding the appropriate allocation and balancing of these powers. The debate has focussed on not only whether a particular matter should be dealt with at the state versus the national level, but also on how these allocations are adjusted from time to time.

Of late, for example, along with laments for those who tragically lost their lives during the September 11th terrorist attack, there has been widespread concern with new realignments of federal/state powers that have followed in the name of homeland security.

Most significantly, as I discussed in a previous column, Washington is assuming powers that have only previously existed during a Congressionally declared war.

Creating the United States Senate: The Framers’ Bicameralism

Unsurprisingly, the Revolutionaries were not very impressed with most aspects of the British model of government. They rejected parliamentary government, with its king or queen and three estates of the realm (lords spiritual, lords temporal, and the commons).

But one feature of the British system, the Framers did borrow. That was bicameralism - a word coined by Brit Jeremy Bentham to describe the division of the legislature into two chambers (or, in Latin, camera).

The British Parliament had its House of Lords as the upper chamber and the House of Commons as the lower chamber. Citizens selected members of the House of Commons. The members of the House of Lords, in contrast, were those who had been titled by a king or queen (lords temporal) and the archbishops and bishops of the Church of England (lords spiritual).

Loosely basing our bicameral legislature on this model (minus the lords, both temporal and spiritual), the Framers created the House of Representatives as the lower chamber, whose members would be selected directly by the people. And with almost unanimous agreement, they determined that members of the upper chamber, the Senate, would be selected by not directly, but by the legislatures of the states. Each state would have two Senators, while Representatives would be apportioned based on population.

James Madison was not only involved in structuring the system, but was also a keeper of its contemporaneous record. He explained in Federalist No. 10 the reason for bicameralism: “Before taking effect, legislation would have to be ratified by two independent power sources: the people’s representatives in the House and the state legislatures’ agents in the Senate.”

The need for two powers to concur would, in turn, thwart the influence of special interests, and by satisfying two very different constituencies, would assure the enactment was for the greatest public good. Madison summed up the concept nicely in Federalist No 51:

In republican government, the legislative authority, necessarily predominate. The remedy for this inconveniency is, to divide the legislature into different branches; and to render them by different modes of election, and different principles of action, as little connected with each other, as the nature of their common functions and their common dependencies on the society, will admit.

The system as designed by the Framers was in place for a century and a quarter, from 1789 until 1913, when the Seventeenth Amendment was adopted. As originally designed, the Framers’ system both protected federalism and ensured that relatively few benefits would be provided to special interests.

The Cloudy Reasons Behind The Seventeenth Amendment

Before the Seventeenth Amendment the federal government remained stable and small. Following the Amendment’s adoption it has grown dramatically.

The conventional wisdom is that it was FDR’s New Deal that radically increased the size and power of federal government. But scholars make a convincing case that this conventional wisdom is wrong, and that instead, it was the Seventeenth Amendment (along with the Sixteenth Amendment, which created federal income tax and was also adopted in 1913) that was the driving force behind federal expansion.

The Amendment took a long time to come. It was not until 1820 that a resolution was introduced in the House of Representatives to amend the Constitution to provide for direct elections of Senators. And not until after the Civil War, in 1870, did calls for altering the system begin in earnest. But forty-three years passed before the change was actually made.

This lengthy passage of time clouds the causes that provoked the Amendment to be proposed and, finally, enacted. Nonetheless, scholars do have a number of theories to explain these developments.
George Mason University law professor Todd Zywicki has assembled an excellent analysis of the recent scholarship on the history of the Seventeenth Amendment, while also filling in its gaps. Zywicki finds, however, that received explanations are incomplete.

Two Main Seventeenth Amendment Theories Don’t Hold Water On Examination

There have been two principal explanations for changing the Constitution to provide for direct election of Senators. Some see the Amendment as part of the Progressive Movement, which swept the nation in the late 1800s and early 1900s, giving us direct elections, recall, and referendums.
Others, however, believe the Amendment resulted from the problems the prior Constitutional system was creating in state legislatures, who under that system were charged with electing Senators. These problems ranged from charges of bribery to unbreakable deadlocks.

Deadlocks happened from time to time when, because of party imbalance, a legislature was unable to muster a majority (as necessary under the 1866 law that controlled) in favor any person. The result was to leave the Senate seat empty and leave the state represented by only a single Senator, not the Constitutionally-mandated two.

What about the “corruption and deadlock” explanation? Zywicki’s analysis shows that, in fact, the corruption was nominal, and infrequent. In addition, he points out that the deadlock problem could have been easily solved by legislation that would have required only a plurality to elect a Senator - a far easier remedy than the burdensome process of amending the Constitution that led to the Seventeenth Amendment.

Fortuntely, Professor Zywicki offers an explanation for the Amendment’s enactment that makes much more sense. He contends that the true backers of the Seventeenth Amendment were special interests, which had had great difficultly influencing the system when state legislatures controlled the Senate. (Recall that it had been set up by the Framers precisely to thwart them.) They hoped direct elections would increase their control, since they would let them appeal directly to the electorate, as well as provide their essential political fuel - money.

This explanation troubles many. However, as Zywicki observes, “[a]thought some might find this reality ‘distasteful,’ that does not make it any less accurate.”

Should The Seventeenth Amendment Be Repealed?

Those unhappy with the Supreme Court’s recent activism regarding federalism should considering joining those who believe the Seventeenth Amendment should be repealed. Rather than railing at life-tenured Justices who are inevitably going to chart their own courses, critics should focus instead on something they can affect, however difficult a repeal might be.

Repeal of the amendment would restore both federalism and bicameralism. It would also have a dramatic and positive effect on campaign spending. Senate races are currently among the most expensive. But if state legislatures were the focus of campaigns, more candidates might get more access with less money - decidedly a good thing.

Returning selection of Senators to state legislatures might be a cause that could attract both modern progressive and conservatives. For conservatives, obviously, it would be a return to the system envisioned by the Framers. For progressives - who now must appreciate that direct elections have only enhanced the ability of special interests to influence the process - returning to the diffusion of power inherent in federalism and bicameralism may seem an attractive alternative, or complement, to campaign finance reform.

Profession Zywicki likes this idea as well, but is probably right in finding repeal unlikely. He comments - and I believe he’s got it right—“Absent a change of heart in the American populace and a better understanding of the beneficial role played by limitations on direct democracy, it is difficult to imagine a movement to repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.”

There is one sure way to curb the excesses of big government. Not only in the US but in ALL countries who appear to have illusions of power.
That is place nuclear bombs in Washington, New York in other big cities and likewise the same type of bombs in big cities in Russia,UK,China and Israel amongst others.  Those bombs to be activated by other countries from outside should they be attacked.  It would certainly focus the minds of the governments if they knew that one false move and they wouldn’t need to look for a rocket, just a big blinding flash and a bang back home.

Daniel Ellsberg Words in PAINT by, Earth Ball Roger EC

15 Democracy, Patriot, Protest Paintings at…

http://www.RogerART.com

The ( Bush Family, NeoCon ) TRIAL

Painted in 2001 Oil, Paper on Canvas
36 X 72 in.

Yes, see you on the streets Oct.5. About the money thing: jackson closed the banks. Van buren proposed a Sub Treasury ssystem but it was never inagurated. Lincoln Had the U.S. treasury issue $5,000,000 of non interest bearing money. (not borrowed from a central bank- no debt).  This money remained in circulation untill about 1964..The bills were called U.S. notes as opposed to the curent federal reserve notes we now use that is borrowed from the fed in our name to finance the war machine. Our kids will pay.  lee Christensen Stockton,CA.

It’s both sad and exciting to witness the demise of this country into a sovietfascist state. The government has been turned into a collector of funds for the corporations with tax revenues.
The religionsts of christianism keep us divided by groups of people and the constitution the document that ws meant to protect the citizenry against the power of government has been turned upside down and is now used to protect the government from private citizens, except for the corporate citizens which are the only one’s with constitutional rights.

We do indeed have a “Hitler” clone running this country.  We must, must, must, cleanse ourselves of this monstrosity of a government.  I did combat duty in Viet Nam and supported the pursuit of Osama into Afghanistan.  But the invasion of Iraq was and is a hideous WAR CRIME!  RT Carpenter, Lynn Haven, Florida

I have spoken with Mr. Ellsberg, he warned me against confronting AIPAC. Why?  check out http://www.judicial-inc.biz then read the work of prof. kevin macdonald. we are under attack and Mr. Ellsberg is afraid to tell the real story. Some Hero!

There are always as bad and good, moral and immoral, humanity and inhumanity, as Ellsberg and G. Bush (Or Cheney, Rumsfelt, Condoleezza ...).
Americans must be aware of what that this Administration has been on and up to!!
Thank you, Ellsberg.

Daniel Ellsberg is an enemy of the demonic evil that resides in the US Government.

I am old and tired.; old enough to have learned of our nations founding from people who were not that far removed from it; their grandparents may of fought for or against,; and tired of living in a country that has forgotten “THE WHY AND WHAT” of its foundations with some mythological Liberal or Conservative “INTERPRETATIONS” that have removed it from any real part of todays politcal discussions.
The Constituion of The United States was and still is the most “LIBERAL’ Governing Document ever written. Once and for all time it puts People ahead of any form of govertnment by Stating that RIGHTS EXIST AND NO GOVERNMENT HAS POWER OVER THEM. In fact governments duty is to quash any power, foreign or domestic, that threatens those RIGHTS.
Whenever one hears others saying take it to the United Nations and that our nation is breaking United Nations Laws or World Court laws it only shows how far our ability to enforce our Creator Given rights has been substituted for Priveleges.
I do not blame the youth of today nor do I give credit to the youths of Viet Era for the present we as a peoples find ourselves in today but instead place blame upon all generations that desecrated the constituion from representing all equally to a form of goverment that is Special Interest oriented.
As a student are you going to a gov funded University and or upon a loan or grant from such governing body; “Then you are a “Special Interest”!
Now if Americans wanted to enact a law, a Constituional Amendment stating that education to each and every individuals ability is a “RIGHT” the Constitution gave you the ability to do so. USE IT!
Not some politcal gerrymandering that gives Special Interest Priveleges to minoritys based upon ethnics, color of skin or sexuality. for every partial passage not done in the good of the whole gives those in politics power over another group.
Laws all outside of the Constitutional restraints have been laws of privelege and as such wether it be theft from treasury or a Corporation have the rights of a human being are all against the one Right, being a citizen of the United States by choice and enslaves us instead to that government we once controlled.
The “Why’ is because we had Rights being violated by government, and the “That” was our Constitutional Restraints placed upon Government that insured We The People would never lose them. It was a beginning that they who founded us were hoepfull would bring forth more rights to all within its guidlines but it is us or we the people who failed not them or It.

I was looking at a site from Egypt or somewhere around that area and they had pictures of children killed in the Israeli/Hezbollah conflict.  Seeing these pictures of dead Lebanese children really makes the reality of war and the end consequences more apparent.  It should be mandatory for all wars to be documented and shown to the public AS IS.  This will never happen though because the media, government, and big business are all connected.  There is no money to be made and no control to be exerted in telling the truth, and having peace with one another the world over.

I was reading all this, and I remembered a quote from none other than Joseph Stalin.  “One death is a tragedy.  A million deaths is a statistic.” I noticed that the supporters of the war had been trying to supress the fact that these were real people being shot and blown up in our attempt to pacify Baghdad.  They cried foul when someone published a picture of flag-draped coffins, making it sound as if pictures of the mutilated corpses had been shown.  The only way that the far right can succeed in dragging us into perpetual war is to make it look like a “Sargeant Fury and his Howling Commandos” comic book, and supress pictures of what war really looks like.

I’m so tired of the myth that “most people protested the Vietnam War because of the draft”.  It’s just another lie, just like the myth that all those who were against the war spit on returning vets.

Geprge Bush and Company grew up only reading comic books. Their favourate character was Superman.

Superman confronted evil and saves the world. In the comic the civil society is incapable of defeating the evil. So superman has to solve the problemm outside the democratic process.

This is what George Bush is trying to do in real Life.

I feel about the US Government like how many of the german people must how felt as the nazi war criminals began their ascent to power.
Hope to see you at the Protests at the United Nation Building on 9/19/06 at 9AM!!!

I came of age just after Vietnam,and I think it’s important for the college era kids of today to remember that the Main reason their was so much protest is because there was a draft and those protesting were mainly interested in keeping themselves out of a war, not the inhumanity or stupidity of the conflict. I do feel that the youth of today should step up and protect their future but that doesn’t let the rest of us out of our responsibility to help clean up the mess that’s been made of this country and now the world.
It really scares me that their are people out there that think you can Win a nuclear war. All a nuke is for is destruction on a massive scale. and Woe to the evil who consider them tactical.

Who are the major benefactors of the Bush admin? Follow the money,really simple. The MIC, Big Oil, and sadly Israel. Who in their right mind would trust a pathological liar,like G.W.  The major news industry does!!  Thank God for the internet. My eyes have seen the truth. Better buy your weapons and store enough food for 3 years . The final stage of mankind history is coming to an end. Whoa to the inhabitant on earth!!!

The solution to justice & equality are Land Value Taxes. Please check out http://www.henrygeorge.org. I am still voting democratic because I will not give my vote to the republican party by toying around with the green parties & libertarian parties at this crucial time.
We can vote early in Chicago. I am tempted to run out to be the first voter but need to find out who the judges are in the race. 
Rachelle (23742) hit the nail on the head. Donovon (23885), when I saw that episode of Boston Legal I nearly fell off the couch from the lack of fiction in the story.
Please don’t pick on youth because they didn’t graduate from HS in ‘67 & don’t live in a van down by the river. Unless they are wearing brown shirts, G- forbid, they are still our babies. And if we do not get rid of the republican party in this election this is the next Nazi Germany.

Thank you Ryan and Phil for your responses.  I certainly agree with everything you say, except for the fact that I never read about “another college campus” protesting this or that.  So while you pat yourself on the backs for your methods, recognize that unless you make a headline once in a while you aren’t going to accomplish as much.

I’m originally from northern CA, and I plan to return there after I finish my time in the navy, so I’d be interested to know more about your organization in Sacramento.

You guys seem to have your heads on straight so I appologize for venting irresponsibly, and making it out to be all your fault.  Of course it isn’t; almost every American should feel guilty.

States Appoint Senators Temporarily to Washington DC; no more floating them out for 6 years after direct election

The first step we need to do is get rid of the direct election of State Senators and only have them appointed by the STATE REPRESENTATIVES to Wash DC on a temporary basis subject to immediate recall. Whenever people vote, corporations take control because their money is needed for mass media advertising. Our founding fathers did not want direct election as the only way to get representatives to Wash DC. Details:

http://www.combatreform.com/braveamerican.htm

Congress should enact the following:

Photographic Whistle Blower Protection Act

2. Government insiders have for too long taken photographic evidences from WE THE PEOPLE of major political assassinations and crashes and then not delivered truthful justice from said materials but have themselves obstructed justice by not returning them to their rightful owners. This is an evil and violation of the basic 1st amendment rights of every American and we petition this grievance be redressed by a Photographic Whistle Blower Protection act. From now on when any American films ANY public event that may involve a crime or act of war against the U.S., any federal, state or local agent that wants these materials must submit IN WRITING a request to that person for it, who then has 30 days to make two exact duplicate copies for the county grand jury where the event took place and the agency that wants it. THE ORIGINAL STAYS IN THE POSSESSION OF THE WITNESS who can act as an American citizen to share it with the internet and news media to insure crimes possibly done by government insiders are investigated and excused away by other or the same government insiders. 

Public Oversight of Significant Death Incidents Act

3. Any political assassination or murder of a famous American or crash deaths where more than 4 people die will be given oversight by the county grand jury where the incident happened by the forming of a random oversight team composed of 1 member of the clergy, the press and a lay person.

Independant Oversight Investigation Team (OIT)

Our founding fathers did not create a way for the American public to see what insider investigators were doing when facing technological disasters that did not exist in their era; plane crashes, assassinations by bombs, fires set by timers, remote devices etc.

SO WHO WATCHES THE INSIDERS?

How do we know they are not white washing the misdeeds of other insiders?

We need to create an OVERSIGHT INVESTIGATION TEAM (OIT) formed by the county where the disaster took place’s GRAND JURY. If a plane crashes where more than 3 people are killed, a prominent public figure dies etc. 3 people from the GRAND JURY ARE DISPATCHED IMMEDIATELY TO THE CRIME/ACCIDENT SCENE AND WATCH ALL PROCEEDINGS AND SEE ALL EVIDANCE. They being lay people would not be expected to make technical assessments BUT THEY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO KEEP A MINUTE-BY-MINUTE DIARY, TAKE DIGITAL PHOTOS AND TO MEASURE THINGS WITH A TAPE MEASURE/SCALE AND THEIR FINDINGS COME OUT WHEN THE INVESTIGATORS REPORT COMES OUT AS A SORT OF “CONTROL” TEST TUBE, “reality check”. We also think the OIT should have a randomly selected religious leader from the county and a foreign subject matter expert join them to insure some moral and technical courage be present.

Here’s the bottom line.

WE DO NOT KNOW IF ANY BODIES WERE ON ANY ON THE 9/11 ATTACK PLANES. We didn’t see sh*t. All we have is the word of the insider
investigators “protecting us” from these gruesome scenes. Well, we are fuking finished with being lied to.  We are finished with only first responders and some media reporters squeezing in some impressions/photos before being run off by the insider liars. The OIT will certainly be threatened and even murdered but if we do not get back control of investigations to make them honest, POLITICAL MURDERS WILL CONTINUE AS OUR GOVERNMENT IS CONTROLLED BY MURDERERS. As an example, an Interpol Team reviewed the JFK Jr. crash and they immediately saw that the visibility was good so he did NOT get vertigo and spin his plane into the water and was in fact DESCENDING TO LAND. His plane’s wings were found intact but the TAIL WAS BLOWN OFF BY AN EXPLOSION. Had an OIT been present the obvious truth that JFK Jr. was assassainated would have been immediately known and likely murderers, the Clintons investigated.

Silver foot in his mouth cocaine head alcoholic delusion of grandeur Bush is completely off his rocker and now talking about his selected presidency as the 3rd Reich Awakening of religion as this spoiled rotten brat cocky idiot who had failed at everything but was bailed out by daddys millions before he was bought a couple big offices after conveniently finding the last refuge for rogue scoundrels in religion. Bush was farted out of his Mr Mommys asshole 60 yrs ago when daddy had anal sex with her and it has puzzled scientists ever since how his sperm and her turd combined gentically to produce this shit for brains but now they know as does the world.

I believe history to be our greatest teacher. Mr. Ellsberg, thank you for alerting the siren call for vigilance, action and standing up for what is right and proper regardless of the cost.

I am a 31 year old libertarian and you can count myself as well as many others to heed these warnings and take action publicly on October 5th. This is necessary, this is right, and there are NO excuses not to take action in defense of everything that this constitutional republic stands for. You have a friend.

We have no chance agaist the maniacs in Washington unless we put them all in jail for war crimes. We also have to vote them out in November, then impeach them.

Donovan, I am currently a college student and can see quite clearly what is happening.  Its not just my “kind” that are messing this up.  Its all the religious extremists in this country that are driving us towards an end for nothing but a belief.  Blame yourself for not doing anything about it.  I blame myself for not doing more, but how can anything get done when everyone has got their noses so far in a bible, that they cant see in front of their faces.  Its pretty clear that this country has already picked its path and its government will do what it wishes.  That has been apparent for as long as we have been a country.  And being educated doesn’t mean you are any smarter or have more of an obligation to change the way things are going in this country, its all our responsibility.  I am sick of hearing people try and blame others for things that are all are faults equally.  We are a country united and we should act like it, instead of bickering about whos fault it is.  I am doing my part in an age were things are alot different from your college days.  The ways i get things done are alot different and more efficient than people in your day, if you want to label yourself.  So please dont be so nieve to think that us youngens are doin nothing except drinking beer and having sex.  Sounds alot like the sixties to me, yet now the government has gotten a little smarter and knows how to play god with less people being inclined to speak up.

Ellsberg Rocks!  See ya in the streets October 5th.

4 areas ripe for reform:

1) campaign finance

2) corporate law - corporations should no longer have the same rights as persons

3) antitrust/anti-oligarchy/anti-bigness law - some reasonable set of laws to restrict a business (or colluding business group) from dominating an industry

4) restore the balance between labor and capital/management, including severe restrictions on financial speculation (and specious derivatives)

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Deep philospphical idea - what the heck is money, anyway? (It’s related to the current thread because so much big political crime and atrocity is tightly tied up with it.) Is it time to redesign it? Civilization went from precious items (gold,jewelry) to gold-backed currency to “faith-based” (fiat) currency, with an extension into credit cards and electronic methods of keeping track. Most talk about changing money favors turning the clock back to the gold standard, but maybe we need a new stage instead. I just happened to think of this, and I don’t have an idea for what that new stage might be. (One recent new form of money has been local currencies such as Time Dollars. I’m not sure what I think of it.)

I’ve read Jacob Needleman’s book “Money and the Meaning of Life”, but it doesn’t claim to offer an answer as much as ask useful questions and give interesting examples from his life.

One candidate for a model for a new paradigm for money is information. If you copy a CD, for instance, the original copy still exists and isn’t diminished. The whole idea of scarcity needs rethinking. Needleman’s quotes Maimonides’s idea that the more necessary something is, the less scarce it is. For instance, air. That makes the effort to privatize water supplies look even more unspeakably wrong.

“It struck a chord with me when he lamented on how college students are dooing a damn thing today.  The only people speaking out are older people who have been around for more than one administration; our youth is worthless when it comes to recognizing a dire problem let alone doing something about it.”

As a 20 year old college student, I strongly disagree.  The youth in this country care more than you think, we are just touched and reached differently than previous generations. I believe that my current effort as part of the “World Can’t Wait” organization in Sacramento can reach many others younger or older than my own age.

To reach young people you have to talk to us on our terms, and maybe start giving us a little credit. Today more than ever we have to deal with an Educational system that does not properly prepare us for college and does not even give us a proper view of our rights in this society.

I think the Neo-Cons have disabled the educational system in our country so that the people turned out are not enlightened individuals, but good little consuming sheep for the corporations. Personally, I never felt the material being taught to me in K-12 was worth interest or designed at all to peek interest.

What can you expect from the masses if they don’t understand the basic principles of being American.

*Also I might point out that the illegal wars of the Bush Regime are being fought by “young” people who are hoping to recieve money and training in turn for college degrees in the future.

Check out this YouTube clip from Boston Legal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNSwZfLsnis

It struck a chord with me when he lamented on how college students are dooing a damn thing today.  The only people speaking out are older people who have been around for more than one administration; our youth is worthless when it comes to recognizing a dire problem let alone doing something about it.

#23716 - I’m old enough too.  I also am afraid that a nuclear attack on Iran would plunge us into a new world war, as you say. However, should it set off a nuclear holocaust, there will be no world left to judge the infamy of the United State.

Just the other day Charles Krauthammer wrote an article advocating a nuclear attack on Iran’s supposed buried weaponry.  He’s one of the men, along with Kristol and the rest of the neocons, who, since 1998 advocated a US attack on Iraq.

It is mystifying, actually terrifying that unelected and often non-government individuals strictly for their own personal ideology or profit can not only determine the policies of this nation, the government of this nation then carries them out.  It is only to us to obediently provide the money, materiel and bodies.

Republicans are so cunning.

Republicans have politicized, corrupted and subverted every agency of the federal government in their effort to maintain perpetual plutocratic rule. Which isn’t a work in process, it’s a done deal. Their plan to replace democracy with an autocracy began long before Watergate, and what the media has so duplicitously and dismissively described as “campaign dirty tricks,” as if the subversion of the democratic process was a harmless prank.

Republicans are so cunning. They realized long ago the necessity of controlling the media to establish and perpetuate authoritarianism. First they abolished existing anti-monopoly laws, which allowed them to buy the media. Now a half dozen incestuously linked giant corporations own or control all media outlets. Bereft of any dissenting voices, Americans are now force-fed a meager diet of lies.

All else pales compared to their brilliant election strategy: It doesn’t matter if a majority of voters choose the opposing party as long as you own the voting machines. Which they do.

Short of a revolution, or civil war, we are now permanently a totalitarian state.

Oh, the irony… That the U.S. would now attack Iran for developing the very nuclear weapons that IT would use. Such is the logic of the Washington despots.

Thank you for a well written article, and for your efforts.

I wonder if there can be a mass movement now that the Rovian parcelling out of what was once community life, the pitting of one group against another, is so entrenched and used so effectively as a political weapon and has replaced discourse and action.
The goal is almost achieved, the individual alone facing the force of the state whose power is being used against him.
Perhaps as the “Decider” said, “Time is running out.”

Awesome, I love Ellsberg
DRive Out the Bush Regime!
See ya October 5th

Daniel Ellsberg remains one of the great heroes of our time (I’m old enough to remember the times he describes.)

He never fails to inspire me; we can only he inspires the officials he has been calling on to blow the whistle and release documents in time to prevent the evil:  in this case, of an attack on Iran that might well plunge us into a new world war - and would make our nation’s name live in infamy comparable to Nazi Germany.

Once again, Thank You, Mr. Ellsberg.  Long may you inspire us.